DACA - Will Trash kill it?

[boutons_deux]

Trump says DACA decision coming 'over the weekend'Earlier in the day, Trump said a decision could be made Friday or this weekend, though he later specified Saturday, Sunday or Monday.

A number of lawmakers, including members of Trump's own party, spoke out Friday against the possibility of the president ending the policy, instead arguing for Congress to decide on its future.

Trump faces a Sept. 5 deadline when the attorneys general of 10 states plan to file suit against the administration over the policy's continued existence.

As of the end of March, almost 788,000 initial grants and 800,000 renewals had been made under the program since 2012.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-daca-decision-coming-today-weekend/story?id=49545914

Businesses overwhelmingly support keeping DACA, and 70% of Americans do.

Enormous majority of DACA kids are either in college or working.

[boutons_deux]

Results from a Nationwide Survey of DACA Recipients Illustrate the Program’s Impact

https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DACASurveyResults_webfig1.png

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2015/07/09/117054/results-from-a-nationwide-survey-of-daca-recipients-illustrate-the-programs-impact/

What say you, Spurstalk KKK, Nazis, nativists, racists, xenophobes?

DACA, up or down?

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Unfortunately I believe he'll kneel here. Hussein's surrogate (Gen. Kelly) has his ear on such matters. The deal is:::"Tweet all you want, but, all policy goes thru me."

I don't understand why Trump would hire ANYONE even remotely associated with Hussein's regime. It baffles my mind, but, it's happened.

[Reck]

Yes.

Trump has no bottom. When you think he cant sink lower, he does.

[boutons_deux]

Kris Kobach claims DACA people are criminals

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1678199585606422/

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Kris Kobach claims DACA people are criminals

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1678199585606422/


Kris Kobach is spot on.

[boutons_deux]

Republicans crank up pressure on Trump to not scrap DACA

The White House says an announcement on Trump's decision will be made on Tuesday.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions and policy aide Stephen Miller are the most vocal advocates of killing the program, :lol OF COURSE :lol

and they’ve both made the case that it will be difficult to defend in court.

Though Trump is largely convinced that he should end the program, he continues to raise concerns privately about the possible political blowback,

Texas :lol OF COURSE :lol and nine other states have threatened to sue the Trump administration over DACA if the president doesn’t rescind the measure by Tuesday.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/daca-dreamers-trump-paul-ryan-242257

[hater]

Trump will kill it

His base is ready to eat him alive if he doesnt

He has monchoice

[ducks]

Congress will they fix it

[boutons_deux]

‘This is compassion’: Unearthed 2011 video shows Trump defending undocumented families

“You have people in this country for 20 years,

they’ve done a great job,

they’ve done wonderfully,

they’ve gone to school,

they’ve gotten good marks,

they’re productive —

now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?” he said. “I don’t believe in that.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/this-is-compassion-unearthed-2011-video-shows-trump-defending-undocumented-families/

:lol

y'all's hero is disgusting piece of sicko shit.

[Spurtacular]

Trump will kill it

His base is ready to eat him alive if he doesnt

He has monchoice

It wouldn't be consistent with his message/actions to not kill it. I'll admit that the fake news stations make it sound like he's open to compromise though.

[boutons_deux]

He's a chickshit, a fraud, will pass Obama's EO to Congress.

If Repug Congress does anything, they will surely fuck it up because fucking up is all the Repugs do.

[Thread]

He's a chickshit, a fraud, will pass Obama's EO to Congress.

If Repug Congress does anything, they will surely fuck it up because fucking up is all the Repugs do.

Bouts

He's knelt.

[boutons_deux]

The fuck-everything cruelty is official, announced by life-long AL racist Sessions. The slave states still fucking over America.

[Reck]

Yes.

Trump has no bottom. When you think he cant sink lower, he does.

LOL.

Could have saved a thread.

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Trump should have ended DACA on January 20th.

Instead every single day since January 20th HE has rewarded this criminal behavior.

[baseline bum]

Trump should have ended DACA on January 20th.

Instead every single day since January 20th HE has rewarded this criminal behavior.

So Trump's no longer a good person?

[baseline bum]

.

[Thread]

So Trump's no longer a good person?

First I have a question for you, bum:::Where did I tell you to pound those questions?

[baseline bum]

First I have a question for you, bum:::Where did I tell you to pound those questions?

You have people in this country for 20 years, they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully, they’ve gone to school, they’ve gotten good marks, they’re productive — now we’re supposed to send them out of the country? I don’t believe in that.

[RandomGuy]

Morning Mix
A ‘dreamer’ dies trying to save Harvey victims, days before Trump plans to end DACA


As Harvey’s wrath descended on Texas, Alonso Guillén’s father begged him not to make the 120-mile trek to the Houston area to rescue those stranded in floodwaters.

“It is too dangerous,” his father pleaded, Guillén’s brother recalled.

But when it came to helping others, Guillén, a 31-year-old Mexican immigrant, was headstrong, relatives told The Washington Post. On Aug. 29, Guillén left his job as a radio host early to pile into a white Chevy Tahoe with a group a friends. The volunteers from Lufkin made the drive to Cyprus Creek in Spring, a Houston suburb. Once there, they set out on five boats, using a walkie-talkie app to identify people who needed rescuing.

Late that night, as Guillén and his group were on their way to pluck survivors from an apartment complex, their rescue boat slammed into an Interstate 45 bridge. The collision hurled Guillén and his friend, Tomas Carreon, 25, also of Lufkin, into the rushing floodwaters. A third person in the boat was later rescued, grasping onto a tree, the Houston Chronicle reported.

On Friday, searchers found Carreon’s body. On Sunday, Guillén’s body floated to the surface, his brother, Jesus Guillén said.

“He died wanting to serve,” Jesus Guillén, a 36-year-old truck driver from Lufkin, told The Washington Post. “He could have stayed home watching the news on television, but he chose to go help.”

Guillén and Carreon were among at least 60 people who had died as of Monday afternoon in connection to the storm, a number expected to increase. Their stories struck a chord with immigrant communities in Texas and beyond. Relatives said Guillén was a “dreamer,” a recipient of Obama-era protections that President Trump is preparing to end. He came to the United States from Mexico when he was 15.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/05/a-dreamer-dies-trying-to-save-harvey-victims-days-before-trump-plans-to-end-daca/?utm_term=.97b790abd92f

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You have people in this country for 20 years, they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully, they’ve gone to school, they’ve gotten good marks, they’re productive — now we’re supposed to send them out of the country? I don’t believe in that.

He came for the votes carrying a promise to end DACA. He was loud & he was clear. That's OUR money. OUR benefits. OUR expenditure of time & effort.

They are criminalsPERIOD

[Quadzilla99]

He came for the votes carrying a promise to end DACA. He was loud & he was clear. That's OUR money. OUR benefits. OUR expenditure of time & effort.

They are criminalsPERIOD

Idiots like you always have this idea that's there's like a set number of jobs total and anyone who comes here takes them. Mexicans works indirectly creates jobs for others or did you think that only native born white people or republican business owners contribute positively to the economy

[baseline bum]

He came for the votes carrying a promise to end DACA. He was loud & he was clear. That's OUR money. OUR benefits. OUR expenditure of time & effort.

They are criminalsPERIOD

You ask Michele Bachmann to actually, physically go across the street and tell the family of 25 years to get out of this country, she wouldn’t do it because she’s a good person.

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Idiots like you always have this idea that's there's like a set number of jobs total and anyone who comes here takes them. Mexicans works indirectly creates jobs for others or did you think that only native born white people or republican business owners contribute positively to the economy

& fucks like you pick & choose the laws that need enforcing.

They're criminalsPERIOD

[Kim Jong-il]

& fucks like you pick & choose the laws that need enforcing.

They're criminalsPERIOD
Says the guy who defends Convict Joe :lmao

[Quadzilla99]

& fucks like you pick & choose the laws that need enforcing.

They're criminalsPERIOD

It's not about the laws. You guys even want to cut legal immigration by half. It's funny because there's like 20 different aspects of immigration coincidentally if you have a conversation with a guy like you every single aspect of foreigners coming here especially Mexicans is negative. What a coincidence! The Common Thread is the same thing: keep the fucking brown people out of here

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You ask Michele Bachmann to actually, physically go across the street and tell the family of 25 years to get out of this country, she wouldn’t do it because she’s a good person.

Let me do it. I'm retired, living on a small pension. I have all the time in the world. I'd take great gusto & pleasure first getting heeled, then knocking on those doors-ordering them to vamoose.

Yeah, give me one of those plum jobs that those fucks in DC have. Nice motel,,,no, a nice hotel room every nite as I fly coach,,,no, first class crisscrossing this great nation getting rid of a million criminal deadbeats.

They need to take what they've stolen from this country in education & benefits back to their own countries and apply it there so their country is fucking habitable instead of some never ending boundless shit hole.

I'd be the [[[Dreamers Nightmare.]]]

See, Trump, he's got his, safe & sound. His kids, they got theirs, safe & sound. His grand children, they got theirs, safe & sound. His great grand children, they got theirs, safe & sound. His great-great...eh, you get my drift. On & On.

What he told me and 60 million like me is that WE would be forgotten no more.

I got a another question for you, bum. Here's the query:::"You know what?" I think he forgot some more.

[Pavlov]

Says the guy who defends Convict Joe :lmao:lol

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It's not about the laws. You guys even want to cut legal immigration by half. It's funny because there's like 20 different aspects of immigration coincidentally if you have a conversation with a guy like you every single aspect of foreigners coming here especially Mexicans is negative. What a coincidence! The Common Thread is the same thing: keep the fucking brown people out of here

Absolutely.

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Says the guy who defends Convict Joe :lmao

Absolutely. He kept those wets moving down here.

& even when they came to get him, he kept that Soros fuck pinned down here whilst Bannon staked out Hillary's graveyard twist Minnesota & New York.

Joe

[Pavlov]

Absolutely. He kept those wets moving down here.

& even when they came to get him, he kept that Soros fuck pinned down here whilst Bannon staked out Hillary's graveyard twist Minnesota & New York.

JoeSo you don't care when some laws are broken. :lol

[Quadzilla99]

He just dislikes brown people like he admitted in the previous page. Rest is window dressing

[boutons_deux]

the supreme dickless, spineless Ayn-Rand-adoring asshole "thanks, Obama!"

Paul Ryan Immediately Blames Obama For Trump Ending DACA

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) immediately tried to cover for Trump's decision to end the DACA program by

placing the blame on former President Obama

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/05/paul-ryan-immediately-blames-obama-trump-daca.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/05/paul-ryan-immediately-blames-obama-trump-daca.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

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Trump’s arguments on DACA contradict his position on the travel ban

Then: unlimited discretion. Now: hands are tied.

Sessions sought to frame the question as a simple matter of constitutional law rather than a policy judgment on the merits of taking 800,000 people out of the legal workforce and subjecting them to possible deportation.

“It means we are enforcing our laws as Congress passed them,” Sessions explained.

Texas’s attorney general :lol of fucking course :lolthreatened to sue under the untested legal theory that DACA represents a violation of the president’s constitutional obligation to “take care” that the laws of the country be enforced.

Trump administration always made the exact opposite argument:

that the executive branch has extremely broad and essentially unreviewable discretion over immigration policy.

Now Sessions is arguing he has no discretion at all. :lol

ICE is already deporting as many people as the backlog in immigration courts will allow (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/10/16119910/trump-deportations-obama) — about 400,00 people per year.

Exercising some discretion to ensure that 800,000 particularly sympathetic cases out of a total population of about 11 million won’t be targeted is a perfectly reasonable approach, and

Trump absolutely had the option of standing up in court for his right to take that approach.

He simply chose not to.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/5/16255400/daca-travel-ban (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/5/16255400/daca-travel-ban)


Killing DACA is nothing but brutal, inhumane implementation of White Male Supremacy.

All y'all dickless white males voted in Trash to have your dicklessness protected and strengthened.

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W T F, IOWA?

"cantaloupe calves" Steve King: Deported Dreamers Can Teach Home Countries ‘How A Civilized People Interact With Each Other’

http://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/steve-king-800x458.jpg

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/steve-king-deported-dreamers-can-teach-home-countries-how-a-civilized-people-interact-with-each-other/

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https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21272105_1683872495039131_7453055406685021410_n.pn g?oh=0c84189a51575f42eb747d446fa12dcd&oe=5A6039AD

[Reck]

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21272105_1683872495039131_7453055406685021410_n.pn g?oh=0c84189a51575f42eb747d446fa12dcd&oe=5A6039AD

Damn, are these people the result of inbreeding?

They all look like the hunch back from 300.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, all their pre-jowl surgery photos are pretty rough. Ivanka included.

[ducks]

Yeah, all their pre-jowl surgery photos are pretty rough. Ivanka included.

you just wish you could produce a hot babe like ivanka

[ducks]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
and all these well there is 800k plus so we can not do anything about it is bs

[Pavlov]

you just wish you could produce a hot babe like ivankaThat's weird, dude.

[ducks]

““President Obama wrongly believed he had the authority to re-write our immigration law. Today’s action by President Trump corrects that fundamental mistake. This Congress will continue working on securing our border and ensuring a lawful system of immigration that works.””

[Pavlov]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
and all these well there is 800k plus so we can not do anything about it is bsYeah, Breitbart said that 0.003% of them have been accused of crimes!

[ducks]

you can't allow emotions to govern.

[Pavlov]

you can't allow emotions to govern.You voted for an emotion.

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W T F, IOWA?

"cantaloupe calves" Steve King: Deported Dreamers Can Teach Home Countries ‘How A Civilized People Interact With Each Other’

http://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/steve-king-800x458.jpg

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/steve-king-deported-dreamers-can-teach-home-countries-how-a-civilized-people-interact-with-each-other/


They're illegalPERIOD

Out!!!

[Pavlov]

They're illegalPERIOD

Out!!!Contempt of court is illegal too.

:lol law and order

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““President Obama wrongly believed he had the authority to re-write our immigration law. Today’s action by President Trump corrects that fundamental mistake. This Congress will continue working on securing our border and ensuring a lawful system of immigration that works.””

But, to then permit Congress a place at the table is wrong, ducks.

He's trying to bargain with a source of people who want nothing to do with him. D or C, doesn't matter. I know it's difficult for him to grasp this horrible reality, but, his refusal to acknowledge will not change this reality.

Fuck them.
Love us.

There is nothing else.

[ducks]

if illegal they should not be automatic usa citizen
better be in bill!

[clambake]

if illegal they should not be automatic usa citizen
better be in bill!

duck bill!

[RandomGuy]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/daca-deportations-could-cost-us-economy-more-than-400-billion.html

CNBC tallies the cost to the economy.


DACA deportations could cost US economy more than $400 billion

rump's decision to remove of hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from the workforce could cost the economy hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 10 years.
The Trump administration announced the "wind down" over the next six months of the DACA program, which shields some 800,000 young immigrants from deportation.
Unless Congress acts to replace the Obama-era program with similar protections, those people would no longer be allowed to work in the U.S.

[RandomGuy]

duck bill!

[rimshot]

[Thread]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/daca-deportations-could-cost-us-economy-more-than-400-billion.html

CNBC tallies the cost to the economy.

Big damn deal. They'll do what Bush/Clinton/Bush/Hussein did:::they'll go back into the back room & print some more.

[boutons_deux]

Barry bitch-slaps Trash, Sessions, and all you dickless, racist white male losers, Nazis, bubbas, rednecks, KKK

"Immigration can be a controversial topic.

We all want safe, secure borders and a dynamic economy, and people of goodwill can have legitimate disagreements about how to fix our immigration system so that everybody plays by the rules.


But that’s not what the action that the White House took today is about.

This is about young people who grew up in America – kids who study in our schools, young adults who are starting careers, patriots who pledge allegiance to our flag.

These Dreamers are Americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper.

They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants.

They may not know a country besides ours.

They may not even know a language besides English.

They often have no idea they’re undocumented until they apply for a job, or college, or a driver’s license.

Over the years, politicians of

both parties have worked together to write legislation that would have told these young people – our young people –

that if your parents brought you here as a child,

if you’ve been here a certain number of years, and

if you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military,

then you’ll get a chance to stay and earn your citizenship.

And for years while I was President,

I asked Congress to send me such a bill.

That bill never came. (Repugs need campaign issues, like hate, xenophobia, guns, Sharia, LGBT)

And because it made no sense to expel talented, driven, patriotic young people from the only country they know solely because of the actions of their parents, my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country.

We did so

based on the well-established legal principle of prosecutorial discretion, deployed by Democratic and Republican presidents alike,

because our immigration enforcement agencies have limited resources, and it makes sense to focus those resources on those who come illegally to this country to do us harm.

Deportations of criminals went up.

Some 800,000 young people stepped forward, met rigorous requirements, and went through background checks.

And America grew stronger as a result.

But today, that shadow has been cast over some of our best and brightest young people once again.

To target these young people is wrong – because they have done nothing wrong. It is self-defeating – because they want to start new businesses, staff our labs, serve in our military, and otherwise contribute to the country we love.

And it is cruel.

What if our kid’s science teacher, or our friendly neighbor turns out to be a Dreamer?

Where are we supposed to send her?

To a country she doesn’t know or remember, with a language she may not even speak?
ind Out More >

Let’s be clear: the action taken today isn’t required legally.

It’s a political decision, and a moral question.

Whatever concerns or complaints Americans may have about immigration in general,

we shouldn’t threaten the future of this group of young people

who are here through no fault of their own,

who pose no threat,

who are not taking away anything from the rest of us.

They are that pitcher on our kid’s softball team, that first responder who helps out his community after a disaster, that cadet in ROTC who wants nothing more than to wear the uniform of the country that gave him a chance.

Kicking them out won’t lower the unemployment rate, or lighten anyone’s taxes, or raise anybody’s wages.

It is precisely because this action is contrary to our spirit, and to common sense, that business leaders, faith leaders, economists, and Americans of all political stripes called on the administration not to do what it did today.

And now that the White House has shifted its responsibility for these young people to Congress, it’s up to Members of Congress to protect these young people and our future.

I’m heartened by those who’ve suggested that they should.

And I join my voice with the majority of Americans who hope they step up and do it with a sense of moral urgency that matches the urgency these young people feel.

Ultimately, this is about basic decency. (iow, it's about basic Repug INdecency)

This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people – and who we want to be.

What makes us American is not a question of what we look like, or where our names come from, or the way we pray.

What makes us American is our fidelity to a set of ideals – that all of us are created equal; that all of us deserve the chance to make of our lives what we will; that all of us share an obligation to stand up, speak out, and secure our most cherished values for the next generation.

That’s how America has traveled this far.

That’s how, if we keep at it, we will ultimately reach that more perfect union."

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/05/president-obama-just-issued-official-statement-responding-trumps-daca-decision/

[ducks]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/daca-deportations-could-cost-us-economy-more-than-400-billion.html

CNBC tallies the cost to the economy.

BULL SHIT

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Barry bitch-slaps Trash, Sessions, and all you dickless, racist white male losers, Nazis, bubbas, rednecks, KKK

"Immigration can be a controversial topic.

We all want safe, secure borders and a dynamic economy, and people of goodwill can have legitimate disagreements about how to fix our immigration system so that everybody plays by the rules.


But that’s not what the action that the White House took today is about.

This is about young people who grew up in America – kids who study in our schools, young adults who are starting careers, patriots who pledge allegiance to our flag.

These Dreamers are Americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper.

They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants.

They may not know a country besides ours.

They may not even know a language besides English.

They often have no idea they’re undocumented until they apply for a job, or college, or a driver’s license.

Over the years, politicians of

both parties have worked together to write legislation that would have told these young people – our young people –

that if your parents brought you here as a child,

if you’ve been here a certain number of years, and

if you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military,

then you’ll get a chance to stay and earn your citizenship.

And for years while I was President, I asked Congress to send me such a bill.
That bill never came. (Repugs need campaign issues, like hate, xenophobia, guns, Sharia, LGBT)

And because it made no sense to expel talented, driven, patriotic young people from the only country they know solely because of the actions of their parents, my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country.

We did so

based on the well-established legal principle of prosecutorial discretion, deployed by Democratic and Republican presidents alike,

because our immigration enforcement agencies have limited resources, and it makes sense to focus those resources on those who come illegally to this country to do us harm.

Deportations of criminals went up.

Some 800,000 young people stepped forward, met rigorous requirements, and went through background checks.

And America grew stronger as a result.

But today, that shadow has been cast over some of our best and brightest young people once again.

To target these young people is wrong – because they have done nothing wrong. It is self-defeating – because they want to start new businesses, staff our labs, serve in our military, and otherwise contribute to the country we love.

And it is cruel.

What if our kid’s science teacher, or our friendly neighbor turns out to be a Dreamer?

Where are we supposed to send her?

To a country she doesn’t know or remember, with a language she may not even speak?

Find Out More >

Let’s be clear: the action taken today isn’t required legally.

It’s a political decision, and a moral question.

Whatever concerns or complaints Americans may have about immigration in general,

we shouldn’t threaten the future of this group of young people

who are here through no fault of their own,

who pose no threat,

who are not taking away anything from the rest of us.

They are that pitcher on our kid’s softball team, that first responder who helps out his community after a disaster, that cadet in ROTC who wants nothing more than to wear the uniform of the country that gave him a chance.

Kicking them out won’t lower the unemployment rate, or lighten anyone’s taxes, or raise anybody’s wages.

It is precisely because this action is contrary to our spirit, and to common sense, that business leaders, faith leaders, economists, and Americans of all political stripes called on the administration not to do what it did today.

And now that the White House has shifted its responsibility for these young people to Congress, it’s up to Members of Congress to protect these young people and our future.

I’m heartened by those who’ve suggested that they should.

And I join my voice with the majority of Americans who hope they step up and do it with a sense of moral urgency that matches the urgency these young people feel.

Ultimately, this is about basic decency. (iow, it about basic Repug INdecency)

This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people – and who we want to be.

What makes us American is not a question of what we look like, or where our names come from, or the way we pray.

What makes us American is our fidelity to a set of ideals – that all of us are created equal; that all of us deserve the chance to make of our lives what we will; that all of us share an obligation to stand up, speak out, and secure our most cherished values for the next generation.

That’s how America has traveled this far.

That’s how, if we keep at it, we will ultimately reach that more perfect union."

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/05/president-obama-just-issued-official-statement-responding-trumps-daca-decision/

Hussein is a piece of shitPERIOD

[RandomGuy]

CNBC tallies up the economic damage from potential DACA deportations, costs get into the hundreds of billions of dollars.


http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/lalalala.gif

um... okay.

[RandomGuy]

BULL SHIT

Do you understand that businesses with fewer customers don't sell as much stuff, right?

[ducks]

orders can be placed online you know from anywhere

[RandomGuy]

orders can be placed online you know from anywhere

(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?

[ducks]

PRESIDENTS CAN NOT CHANGE IMAGRATION LAW FORMER PRESIDENT
HAD YOU GOT CONGRESS TO ACT LIKE TRUMP IS GOING YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT

[ducks]

(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?

how about getting a visa and coming back legally
who says they are renting could be buying houses

[RandomGuy]

CNBC tallies up the economic damage from potential DACA deportations, costs get into the hundreds of billions of dollars.


BULL SHIT


Do you understand that businesses with fewer customers don't sell as much stuff, right?


orders can be placed online you know from anywhere


(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?


how about getting a visa and coming back legally
who says they are renting could be buying houses

Are they going to be "placing orders" for new or existing houses from anywhere?

[ducks]

I hope they find a place to stay once they get a vista or green card
if not people are moving in all the time to replace the ones getting kicked out for breaking the law

[Trill Clinton]

this is a necessary move to get those steel mills up and running. all those toothless, jobless hicks who voted trump will have their jobs back in no time.

[ducks]

do people collect the cost of the economy when throwing a person in jail?
per person ?


I mean in prison they are not going to rent an aparment

[RandomGuy]

CNBC tallies up the economic damage from potential DACA deportations, costs get into the hundreds of billions of dollars.


BULL SHIT


Do you understand that businesses with fewer customers don't sell as much stuff, right?


orders can be placed online you know from anywhere


(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?


how about getting a visa and coming back legally
who says they are renting could be buying houses

Are they going to be placing online orders for gasoline?

... breakfast?

groceries?

Kind of hard to deliver milk via Fed-ex.

[ducks]

if these people leave others will get those jobs and be able to spend money and get the other people off food stamps

[ducks]

Are they going to be placing online orders for gasoline?

... breakfast?

groceries?

Kind of hard to deliver milk via Fed-ex.

Yuma az delivers milk to people and other foods

[RandomGuy]

do people collect the cost of the economy when throwing a person in jail?
per person ?


I mean in prison they are not going to rent an aparment

Man, you are making less sense than usual.

Sorry I asked.

Carry on then.

[ducks]

if these 800k are very talented people they would be buying houses not renting
lol playing the landlord card

[RandomGuy]

Yuma az delivers milk to people and other foods

So how far is this gallon of milk going to be shipped? Honduras?

:lmao

Dumb ass.

[ducks]

do you think the 250 people working for apple are renting a house or buying a house

[RandomGuy]

if these 800k are very talented people they would be buying houses not renting
lol playing the landlord card

LOL

Declaring victory after being destroyed entirely. The 9-11 conspiracy theory thread is that way...

[ducks]

So how far is this gallon of milk going to be shipped? Honduras?

:lmao

Dumb ass. can be if the milk is powder dumb ass

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account realDonaldTrump


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I look forward to working w/ D's + R's in Congress to address immigration reform in a way that puts hardworking citizens of our country 1st.

[spurraider21]

can be if the milk is powder dumb ass
Thank God the powder milk industry is safe

[ducks]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

[Thread]

PRESIDENTS CAN NOT CHANGE IMAGRATION LAW FORMER PRESIDENT
HAD YOU GOT CONGRESS TO ACT LIKE TRUMP IS GOING YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT

But, in the last analysis this has got nothing to do with (process.) They're illegal.

Trump just needed to end it on January 20. But, he pissed around for 7 months, stalling because he lacked the conviction of his promises to the 60 million.

Some BS now about bartering DACA for the Wall. They'll never sign for that Wall. EVER. You could put a gun to their head (D or C) and they'd refuse. It's a pipe dream of his that is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Wake the fuck up, man. (They) want this country to fail and will do whatever it takes to achieves that ruination. Why? IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHY. When somebody/some thing is trying to destroy you---one doesn't ask why. One just does everything in their power to stop their destruction. Trump knows this, but, can't get to the point of taking off the gloves and fighting for his/OUR survival.

[ducks]

But, in the last analysis this has got nothing to do with (process.) They're illegal.

Trump just needed to end it on January 20. But, he pissed around for 7 months, stalling because he lacked the conviction of his promises to the 60 million.

Some BS now about bartering DACA for the Wall. They'll never sign for that Wall. EVER. You could put a gun to their head (D or C) and they'd refuse. It's a pipe dream of his that is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Wake the fuck up, man. (They) want this country to fail and will do whatever it takes to achieves that ruination. Why? IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHY. When somebody/some thing is trying to destroy you---one doesn't ask why. One just does everything in their power to stop their destruction. Trump knows this, but, can't get to the point of taking off the gloves and fighting for his/OUR survival.
tie the bill with the wall

[Thread]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account real (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6855)DonaldTrump


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I look forward to working w/ D's + R's in Congress to address immigration reform in a way that puts hardworking citizens of our country 1st.

He's loitering the temporal, like a child would. That's fine for children, but, it's unbecoming, even vulgar for a President, or, any man for that matter.

"I can tease & torment undisturbed for at least 6 months. That's Thanksgiving, Xmas, New Years. I'll have a grand old time."

[AaronY]

Damn yo

905102583852871681

[Pavlov]

Damn yo

905102583852871681But 0.003% of them have been accused of a crime!

[Brazil]

did not know ducks and thread were such POS tbh.. :lol

[Pavlov]

did not know ducks and thread were such POS tbh.. :lolI'm surprised he even tolerates Tony Parker's being in the country.

[Thread]

did not know ducks and thread were such POS tbh..

I'm pleased as punch what's his face stuck his foot out there for the tarded one.

:lol

[Brazil]

I'm surprised he even tolerates Tony Parker's being in the country.

:lol

I should read more this forum... there are gems in here... I guess people revealed themselves when topic is politics. Look at thread always considered a good fellow but dude is such antiquated with dumbass opinions its mind blowing tbh... dat red neck gene is everywhere

next stop I guess both think earth is 6,000 years old, Darwin should not be taught in school, climate change is a chinese hoax and finally cigarettes don't kill. People stupidity has no limits :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump Claims He Has ‘Love’ For DACA Recipients After Ending The Program

“I have a great heart for these folks we’re talking about, a great love for them,” :lol FUCKING LIAR! :lol

Trump said during a photo opportunity with members of Congress and his administration, referring to those protected by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which he terminated on Tuesday.

He said “people think in terms of children” when they think of DACA recipients “but they’re really young adults.”

“I have a love for these people, and hopefully now Congress will be able to help them and do it properly,” Trump said.

“Really we have no choice. :lol Trash's / Sessions' hands are tied! They must use the "law" to hide their racism :lol

We have to be able to do something, and I think it’s going to work out very well. And longterm it’s going to be the right solution.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-claims-he-has-great-love-for-daca-recipients?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Plan To Ransom Dreamers For His Wall Lasted An Hour before 2 Top Senators Killed It

During a joint press conference, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) made it clear that

Trump's plan to ransom the fate of Dreamers to get his border wall paid for was dead in the Senate

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/05/trumps-plan-ransom-dreamers-wall-lasted-hour-2-top-senators-killed.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[RandomGuy]

:lol

I should read more this forum... there are gems in here... I guess people revealed themselves when topic is politics. Look at thread always considered a good fellow but dude is such antiquated with dumbass opinions its mind blowing tbh... dat red neck gene is everywhere

next stop I guess both think earth is 6,000 years old, Darwin should not be taught in school, climate change is a chinese hoax and finally cigarettes don't kill. People stupidity has no limits :lol

Oh yes. Check out the "church of Trump" threads or similar.

Put him on ignore a while back, because his shit here is so... boring.

[RandomGuy]

Trump’s Plan To Ransom Dreamers For His Wall Lasted An Hour before 2 Top Senators Killed It

During a joint press conference, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) made it clear that

Trump's plan to ransom the fate of Dreamers to get his border wall paid for was dead in the Senate

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/05/trumps-plan-ransom-dreamers-wall-lasted-hour-2-top-senators-killed.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Isn't that the same Lindsey Graham that Trump rage-tweeted at...

chickens. Roost.

[ducks]

tony parker is a legal usa citizen

[ducks]

The most important thing to understand about President Trump's decision Tuesday to wind down the DACA program, which has allowed 800,000 immigrants brought to this country illegally as children to stay here, is just how legally shaky DACA was.





Before issuing the executive order creating DACA – which stands for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals – President Obama had repeatedly said he did not have the authority to change immigration law on his own.

President Obama then changed his mind. The courts, including the Supreme Court in 2016, enjoined a similar law for adults. Legal scholars predicted DACA would be declared invalid within a year.

President Trump's decision to end DACA – but to allow a 6-month grace period so Congress can codify changes in the law that could let so-called Dreamers stay – is being attacked from left and right.

To liberals, the president’s move represents the creation of heartless uncertainty. For conservatives, immigration hawk Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, says the president's action will touch off a "big, civil war" among Republicans.

In reality, the president is this time keeping his cool and navigating the turbulent political waters here prudently.



President Trump isn’t keeping the specifics of the DACA order, which grants a two-year renewable work permit to recipients while blocking any deportation actions against them unless a criminal record is involved. But President Trump says he will work with Congress to reach a viable solution.

A statement by the president Tuesday echoes DACA supporters in one respect: "I do not favor punishing children, most of whom are now adults, for the actions of their parents," President Trump said.

Candidate Trump’s heated campaign rhetoric last year led many people to believe he really did want to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. But his attention-grabbing soundbites were belied by his previous positions on the subject.

Back in 2012, when he was mulling over a run for president, Trump told an interviewer he was “probably down the middle” on immigration issues. After his election in 2016, he said he would focus on deporting "bad hombres" with criminal records and leave the Dreamers alone while the issue was sorted out.

The genius of Trump on the campaign trail was that he sent two different messages on immigration. On the one hand, he called for a border wall and bizarrely claimed he would get Mexico to pay for it. On the other hand, he said he would build a “big beautiful door” in the wall to let in legal immigrants. He reiterated that stand after the election, when he told a rally that he expected the wall would let in both legal immigrants and guest workers.

With his acknowledgement Tuesday that he expected to sign a compromise on the Dreamer issue, President Trump is actually proving himself a good player in the game of the political two-step. Activists on both sides of the political spectrum are upset, but the vast majority of voters in the middle will probably see it as a reasonable compromise.

Of course, members of Congress are already posturing. Rep. Joe Crowley, D-N.Y., is accusing Trump of "hostage taking" should the president try to tie Dreamer status to, say, funding for his border wall. But in the end, the political onus will be on Democrats if they block Dreamer legislation because they refuse to link it to any other issue.

If President Trump plays his cards right, his move Tuesday is smart politics. With new guidelines in place that make it easier to deport unwanted or criminally minded immigrants, the president can feel free to be flexible and even generous with other immigrants.

The end result will satisfy neither President Trump’s most fanatical supporters nor his critics. But it is certainly likely to work better than the chaotic status quo on immigration.



John Fund is a columnist for National Review. Follow him on Twitter johnFund.

[hater]

Trump will kill it

His base is ready to eat him alive if he doesnt

He has monchoice

I still got it

[hater]

:lol

I should read more this forum... there are gems in here... I guess people revealed themselves when topic is politics. Look at thread always considered a good fellow but dude is such antiquated with dumbass opinions its mind blowing tbh... dat red neck gene is everywhere

next stop I guess both think earth is 6,000 years old, Darwin should not be taught in school, climate change is a chinese hoax and finally cigarettes don't kill. People stupidity has no limits :lol

And millions of retards voted for ShillAdolphine KKKlintler

Yes politics do expose the biggest retards on here and anyone who voted for Clintler is included

[Thread]

I still got it

But, it ain't dead.

[Spurminator]

That shrinking base tho

905174089563860993

[boutons_deux]

Congress won't "fix" DACA in 6 months, or fix ANYTHING.

The DHS/CPB goons have all the Dreamers govt permit info and gonna go Shutzstaffel on 800K DACA Dreamers

[spurraider21]

My fiance's immigration lawyer at one point advised her of the option to go out of status and become eligible for DACA protection. Glad she didn't go that route, though she's had to delay her med school track a couple years as a result

[ducks]

Congress won't "fix" DACA in 6 months, or fix ANYTHING.

The DHS/CPB goons have all the Dreamers govt permit info and gonna go Shutzstaffel on 800K DACA Dreamers

is that why their approving rating is 10%

[ducks]

'It's not cold-hearted for the president to uphold the law'

[Spurminator]

Unless he's pardoning a racist.

[Thread]

:lol

I should read more this forum... there are gems in here... I guess people revealed themselves when topic is politics. Look at thread always considered a good fellow but dude is such antiquated with dumbass opinions its mind blowing tbh... dat red neck gene is everywhere

next stop I guess both think earth is 6,000 years old, Darwin should not be taught in school, climate change is a chinese hoax and finally cigarettes don't kill. People stupidity has no limits :lol

I just love how everybody holds me responsible for opinions held. But, your opinions are unfettered in my treatment.

Ya little shits, you.

P.S., And all the shit we've been thru, Bra, thru a decade and you cast me aside as if I'm so much trash.

[dabom]

I just love how everybody holds me responsible for opinions held. But, your opinions are unfettered in my treatment.

Ya little shits, you.

P.S., And all the shit we've been thru, Bra, thru a decade and you cast me aside as if I'm so much trash.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/35/3536caeb1eb484cab713988bec1a6efd5d1b6799fcff30fc51 6036818c56067b.jpg

:lmao :lmao Brazil

[AaronY]

905228667336499200

[Spurminator]

Too much stupid to even attempt to unpack that statement.

[Pavlov]

Wait, he's pre-declaring victory for when Congress reinstates DACA?

:lmao

[AaronY]

Sounds like he just admitted he was bluffing already.

That strategy must be have been included into the arts of the deals book of his or whatever.

Step 1: Make a Threat
Step 2: Let everyone know you're bluffing
Step 3: Profit

[DMX7]

Mr. Trump LOVES the Dreamers. He thinks they're fantastic, and now they must ALL go.

[boutons_deux]

905228667336499200

Trash LIED.

Obama said then and today, that since Congress passed NO immigration reform, he wrote, prosecutorial discretion, DACA.

[Thread]

6 minutes after the old man went first:::

905230065251762176 (https://twitter.com/Cub_Castleberry/status/905230065251762176)

[boutons_deux]

20 States Just Took Bold Action Against Trump’s DACA Decision

Twenty Democratic attorneys general have come together to announce their intention to sue Trump over his rescission of DACA,

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/05/20-states-just-took-bold-action-trumps-daca-decison/

[boutons_deux]

Seth Meyers on Harvey and DACA

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1684698581623189/

[ducks]

Feinstein: DACA is on 'Shaky Legal Ground

DACA is on "shaky legal ground," Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., conceded to Chuck Todd on MSNBC Tuesday after U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced President Donald Trump would end the program to protect "Dreamers."

"It is. That's why we need to pass a law. And we should do it," she said after Todd asked her whether DACA may not have been legal.

The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program started in 2012 under former President Barack Obama via an executive order. Trump during the campaign spoke many times about his desire to end DACA, which grants amnesty to undocumented immigrants who entered the United States as children.

Feinstein urged on her fellow lawmakers to mandate DACA.

[ducks]

Gee it's an onus on Congress ???? No it's what the Constitution requires, not Obama Law. Obama broke the Constitution by making this policy without going through Congress as the Constitution REQUIRES !!!!!!!! So there is no onus on Congress, it is their job, which should have been done when Obama was in charge. Instead Congress let Obama break the law & did nothing about it. So for all these cry babies out there, sorry you are here illegally, the excuses your family brought you here as a child makes no difference. Your family did nothing to correct their crime, you were fully aware of it as you applied for the dreamer status, thus you knew you are here illegally. You made no attempt to correct your status legally by paying the money & following the procedures that legal immigrants follow to enter here. Instead you chose the free way in. Sorry this citizen is tired of being law abiding & seeing my tax dollars going to support law breakers who seem to feel their entitled to live here but not follow the law.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/21231939_1969235739960998_1194282251683461155_n.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=0923840758a25026a673872628b0b67d&oe=5A5B517E

[AaronY]

6 minutes after the old man went first:::

905230065251762176 (https://twitter.com/Cub_Castleberry/status/905230065251762176)
Even among the 60 million who voted for him only 20 million like kicking them out. https://www.axios.com/majority-of-trump-voters-approved-of-daca-2481783584.html

[AaronY]

I mean these are in some cases children who came over when they were like 2 or whatever and are going to be graduating high school in a little bit. His base is horrible but they aren't all pieces of shit

[Spurminator]

I mean these are in some cases children who came over when they were like 2 or whatever and are going to be graduating high school in a little bit. His base is horrible but they aren't all pieces of shit

We'll see when they're forced to choose between him and a Democrat opponent who, I don't know, is pro-choice or some intolerable shit.

[ducks]

I mean these are in some cases children who came over when they were like 2 or whatever and are going to be graduating high school in a little bit. His base is horrible but they aren't all pieces of shit

If their parents were in their legal place they were not even be here to begin with
I feel bad for them but USA does not have enough good teachers for all children

[ducks]

1 teacher 40 students in az

[Spurminator]

:rollin
Reversing DACA is about classroom sizes now?

Jesus fucking christ.

[boutons_deux]

After 16 Futile Years, Congress Will Try Again to Legalize ‘Dreamers’


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/us/politics/dream-act-daca-trump-congress-dreamers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[ducks]

:rollin
Reversing DACA is about classroom sizes now?

Jesus fucking christ.earlier it was the landlords :downspin:

[Pavlov]

1 teacher 40 students in azAre you guys poor or what?

[Thread]

Even among the 60 million who voted for him only 20 million like kicking them out. https://www.axios.com/majority-of-trump-voters-approved-of-daca-2481783584.html

I don't do polls. 98+% said Hillary was POTUS.

[ducks]

Mexican illegals getting USA education and the school busses pick them up

[Chucho]

Of all the groups and demographics to start deporting, this is just the worst. And I am pro deportation. Wasn't a fan of this being an EO, but this is the kind of pointless shit that pisses me off about POTUS. These are actual/potential contributors to our society, go run thru Chinatown or the West side of San Antonio.

[Thread]

Of all the groups and demographics to start deporting, this is just the worst. And I am pro deportation. Wasn't a fan of this being an EO, but this is the kind of pointless shit that pisses me off about POTUS. These are actual/potential contributors to our society, go run thru Chinatown or the West side of San Antonio.

We already have [[[actual/potential contributors]]] to our society within our U.S. citizens.

Get the fuck out.

[AaronY]

I don't do polls. 98+% said Hillary was POTUS.
That was a projection not a poll

[Thread]

That was a projection not a poll

6 of 1---1/2 dozen of the other.

[ElNono]

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

[Thread]

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

Get in the back of the fuckin' line.

[ElNono]

Get in the back of the fuckin' line.

They didn't choose to come here, just like you didn't choose to get fucked by Victor Charlie, tbh...

[Thread]

They didn't choose to come here, just like you didn't choose to get fucked by Victor Charlie, tbh...

What left field did that come out of for cryin' out loud?

They can blame their lousy parents. But, that's their look out. Get out of the country and into the line.

[AaronY]

6 of 1---1/2 dozen of the other.
Not even close to the same thing and you know it. Stop being disengenuous

[Thread]

Not even close to the same thing and you know it. Stop being disengenuous

That's exactly what it is. You stop be specious.

[ElNono]

What left field did that come out of for cryin' out loud?

They can blame their lousy parents. But, that's their look out. Get out of the country and into the line.

The point is that there's no fault of their own. It's like if your mom threw you into a dumpster when you were born, then you get charged with a misdemeanor. It just makes no sense.

I would be A-OK with a special status that doesn't allow them to become citizens through this process (which would prevent their immediate family, and thus, the offenders, from benefiting from it).

[AaronY]

That's exactly what it is. You stop be specious.
You and I both know that poll is most likely accurate. You're just yelling fake news to anything you don't like while sticking your fingers in your ears like a toddler. Maybe more Trumpers support it now that Trump made it a big issue but deep most know it's a shitty thing to do

[SnakeBoy]

Wait, he's pre-declaring victory for when Congress reinstates DACA?

:lmao

Congress can't reinstate DACA

[Pavlov]

Congress can't reinstate DACAThey can't make a law that works like DACA does now? I don't see how they couldn't.

[SnakeBoy]

They can't make a law that works like DACA does now? I don't see how they couldn't.

Sure they could do their job and create an actual law like DACA but it wouldn't be DACA. Well in theory they could do their job.

[boutons_deux]

They can't make a law that works like DACA does now? I don't see how they couldn't.

All the legal tripe from Repugs, Fox, Breitbart, is total bullshit, parroted by ST KKK/Nazis, trying to hide their inhumane, nativist white nationalist racism.

DACA is not unConstitutional, Congress can pass a DACA law. Pres + Congress have no powers? :lol

[boutons_deux]

"As the Supreme Court explained in

Arizona v. United States (http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Arizona_v_United_States_No_11182_2012_BL_157302_US _June_25_2012_C), “a principal feature of the removal system [used to remove immigrants from the country] is the broad discretion exercised by immigration officials.”

When confronted with an immigration who is eligible for deportation, executive branch officials still must decide “as an initial matter, must decide whether it makes sense to pursue removal at all."

it is significant that, when a group of states led by Texas sued the Obama administration to shut down its expansion of DACA-like relief, it did not challenge an Obama-era document instructing immigration officials to focus their enforcement on undocumented individuals who are national security threats, criminals, or who similarly endanger the “public safety.

Texas even conceded that the administration could notify beneficiaries of a program like DACA that they enjoy a kind of privileged position among undocumented immigrants.

A lower court’s injunction challenging Obama’s immigration authority, Texas explained, “does not require the Executive to remove anyone, and it does not touch the removal prioritization memorandum. The Executive has been free all along to issue ‘low-priority’ identification cards to aliens.”

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-admin-constitutional-case-daca-a3134e0059e3/

Why didn't the Repugs challenge/win in court against DACA years ago, but only now putting political, not legal, pressure on Trash to kill DACA?

goddam, you fucking white nationalist extremists are fucking stupid, exactly like you extreme "Christian" Taliban

[boutons_deux]

Trash ready to pussy out, while giving Congress an escape to do nothing


Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA

(something the Obama Administration was unable to do).

If they can't, I will revisit this issue!

7:38 PM - Sep 5, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/905228667336499200)

so now Trash says he CAN legalize DACA but Obama could not legalize DACA? :lol

iow, Obama's DACA is illegal, but Trash do his own DACA legally? :lol

[Brazil]

I just love how everybody holds me responsible for opinions held. But, your opinions are unfettered in my treatment.

Ya little shits, you.

P.S., And all the shit we've been thru, Bra, thru a decade and you cast me aside as if I'm so much trash.

Bra I don't do Trump that's much against my religion there is no way out on this one

[Brazil]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/35/3536caeb1eb484cab713988bec1a6efd5d1b6799fcff30fc51 6036818c56067b.jpg

:lmao :lmao Brazil (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466)

:lol

[Thread]

You and I both know that poll is most likely accurate. You're just yelling fake news to anything you don't like while sticking your fingers in your ears like a toddler. Maybe more Trumpers support it now that Trump made it a big issue but deep most know it's a shitty thing to do

You're there alone, AY. I want nothing to do with polls, or, as you say (projections).

[Thread]

The point is that there's no fault of their own. It's like if your mom threw you into a dumpster when you were born, then you get charged with a misdemeanor. It just makes no sense.

I would be A-OK with a special status that doesn't allow them to become citizens through this process (which would prevent their immediate family, and thus, the offenders, from benefiting from it).

They're here illegallyPERIOD

I don't feel bad for them. I feel bad for Americans who have spent billions upon billions of dollars on these leeches.

It is a disgrace.

They need to return to their countries and make them livable...&/or stay in their countries and make them livable.

Get outPERIOD

[Will Hunting]

1 teacher 40 students in az
That has infinitely more to do with Jan Brewer / Doug Ducey defunding public education to appease the tea bagger base.

[johnsmith]

You voted for an emotion.

This made me lol....I'm stealing this.

[johnsmith]

this is a necessary move to get those steel mills up and running. all those toothless, jobless hicks who voted trump will have their jobs back in no time.

Thats good trill, fight ignorant racism with ignorant racism. That'll teach em!

[johnsmith]

Man, you are making less sense than usual.

Sorry I asked.

Carry on then.

I've only gotten to this point of the thread.....but why are you trying to have a conversation with someone that can barely grasp English? Shame on you really!

[johnsmith]

But 0.003% of them have been accused of a crime!

Is that really the number?

[Pavlov]

SureOK

[ducks]

Is that really the number?

does it matter if they created crime?
they are talking jobs away and house
look at what houses cost in california

[Pavlov]

Is that really the number?Well, it's Breitbart so I can't say it's totally accurate, but since their bias is well known it's significant they could only find 25 cases out of the 800k. Now a couple they found were horrific, but that number is even smaller than the 25. I have to assume they tried to find as many as possible, but they could just suck at their jobs.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/29/25-suspected-criminal-illegal-aliens-protected-dreamer-program/

[SnakeBoy]

OK it won't be DACA but it could be something similar passed by congress and signed into law by POTUS the way our govt is supposed to work

That is correct Chump.

[johnsmith]

does it matter if they created crime?
they are talking jobs away and house
look at what houses cost in california

Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a shit ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring documented and US citizens.....and we are getting our fucking asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[johnsmith]

Well, it's Breitbart so I can't say it's totally accurate, but since their bias is well known it's significant they could only find 25 cases out of the 800k. Now a couple they found were horrific, but that number is even smaller than the 25. I have to assume they tried to find as many as possible, but they could just suck at their jobs.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/29/25-suspected-criminal-illegal-aliens-protected-dreamer-program/

Thanks

[baseline bum]

Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a shit ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring documented and US citizens.....and we are getting our fucking asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

That's the kind of shit that pisses me off and a wall won't do a god damned thing about it. If Trump was serious about illegal immigration he'd put that money he wants for the wall into enforcement of our hiring laws and have the DOJ start bringing criminal cases against people who hire illegals. I get protecting the border but it's a problem affecting the rest of the nation too.

[rjv]

Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a shit ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring documented and US citizens.....and we are getting our fucking asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

Just thought I'd throw that out there. so you work in construction?

[johnsmith]

so you work in construction?

Si

[rjv]

Si tough spot. poor supply of documented skilled labor. many would rather work in oil industry, specifically fracking. and as in many cases with undocumented workers, they often take on the dirty jobs like hanging drywall that many other laborers would rather avoid. unless young people regain interest in construction, the pool will remain dry should undocumented workers be cast off.

[Trill Clinton]

Thats good trill, fight ignorant racism with ignorant racism. That'll teach em!

wdh are you talking about. i didn't bring up race in my post. i don't know why you skipped over all the overt racism here just to police my post?

[ElNono]

They're here illegallyPERIOD

I don't feel bad for them. I feel bad for Americans who have spent billions upon billions of dollars on these leeches.

It is a disgrace.

They need to return to their countries and make them livable...&/or stay in their countries and make them livable.

Get outPERIOD

Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.

[johnsmith]

tough spot. poor supply of documented skilled labor. many would rather work in oil industry, specifically fracking. and as in many cases with undocumented workers, they often take on the dirty jobs like hanging drywall that many other laborers would rather avoid. unless young people regain interest in construction, the pool will remain dry should undocumented workers be cast off.

As you well know, the whole industry is so fucked....all the baby boomers retiring is leaving a void and no sane young person wants in because all the baby boomers were generally cocksuckers (not all of them) and they turn people away from the industry. I'll be terrified to drive over a newly constructed bridge 20 years from now.

[johnsmith]

wdh are you talking about. i didn't bring up race in my post. i don't know why you skipped over all the overt racism here just to police my post?

If it looks like a duck.....

And I'm not sure why I did either....maybe it's because yours stand out to me since it's been your schtick on here for so long.

Don't get mad bruh, just let me know I'm a demon and move on.

[RandomGuy]

I've only gotten to this point of the thread.....but why are you trying to have a conversation with someone that can barely grasp English? Shame on you really!

Yup. My bad. Mea culpa. Some men you just can't reach.

[Trill Clinton]

If it looks like a duck.....

And I'm not sure why I did either....maybe it's because yours stand out to me since it's been your schtick on here for so long.

Don't get mad bruh, just let me know I'm a demon and move on.

its cool. respect.

[RandomGuy]

Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a shit ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring documented and US citizens.....and we are getting our fucking asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

You are not alone, based on the ongoing stuff I read in places like the Economist.

Give an easy path to citizenship, bulk up the process to get those people out of the shadows, and into the legitimate workforce. Then ramp up labor and tax law enforcement to the point where the people hiring them have a much better chance of being caught using undocumented laborers.

Hell, a decent temporary work permit process would do it.

The problem is that the GOP base would never go for it, and that is the part of the electorate that has been setting the tone of the debate for a long time on immigration.

The Democrats need to find their nutz and get this shit done, IMO.

[spurraider21]

Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.
They're brown, nono. Cub already stated his reasons

[Clipper Nation]

That's the kind of shit that pisses me off and a wall won't do a god damned thing about it. If Trump was serious about illegal immigration he'd put that money he wants for the wall into enforcement of our hiring laws and have the DOJ start bringing criminal cases against people who hire illegals. I get protecting the border but it's a problem affecting the rest of the nation too.
I agree that the DOJ needs to do more to stop employers from hiring illegals, but that alone isn't going to stop the problem. DACA recipients are eligible for state-funded benefits in some states. People will still come illegally for the handouts.

eVerify and the wall can both be parts of an overall immigration plan, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

[RandomGuy]

Well, it's Breitbart so I can't say it's totally accurate, but since their bias is well known it's significant they could only find 25 cases out of the 800k. Now a couple they found were horrific, but that number is even smaller than the 25. I have to assume they tried to find as many as possible, but they could just suck at their jobs.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/29/25-suspected-criminal-illegal-aliens-protected-dreamer-program/

"could"? LOL

I guess if your job was defined as "journalist", then yes.

If your job was defined as "propagandist", then no. They are very good at pushing their viewpoint.

[Spurminator]

905438240278278144

[ducks]

Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.

people punish kids all the time
it is called abortion no fault of their own
they get punished so much they DIE

[rjv]

people punish kids all the time
it is called abortion no fault of their own
they get punished so much they DIE there are also millions of kids who are born and punished for their entire childhood through unresolved famine, disease and wars often facilitated by U.S. foreign and domestic policies.

[Thread]

Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.

& that was totally appropriate. Sure, now it looks suspect, but, if I'm living in Japan and the U.S. places a Sunday morning wakeup call that murders 3,000 Japanese soldiers & citizens, the Japs would come on ta my house in like the first thing once the apple cart was righted.

& they'd be right & entitled.

[rjv]

& that was totally appropriate. Sure, now it looks suspect, but, if I'm living in Japan and the U.S. places a Sunday morning wakeup call that murders 3,000 Japanese soldiers & citizens, the Japs would come on ta my house in like the first thing once the apple cart was righted.

& they'd be right & entitled. guess the germans living in the U.S. were less suspect for some reason.

[boutons_deux]

guess the germans living in the U.S. were less suspect for some reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans

[leemajors]

guess the germans living in the U.S. were less suspect for some reason.

FDR did a lot of things people like to forget:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_sex_scandal

[rjv]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans so they were vetted to an extent or rather, individual versus collective internment.

[boutons_deux]

so they were vetted to an extent or rather, individual versus collective internment.

the key differentiator was that they were white

[rjv]

FDR did a lot of things people like to forget:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_sex_scandal most leaders did (and still do). this is a utilitarian country that relies on consequential morality more than any other moral compass. some leaders just went even further than others in regards to how many of the "few" needed to be sacrificed and were more selective about who the "many" were. not sure where FDR would rank in regards to the totality of his sins versus the sum of his virtues.

[rjv]

the key differentiator was that they were white i just read over some of the Sheridan Report and it sort of admits as much, at least in regards to the whole notion of assimilation that we see as such a prominent argument of the far right today. the japs, apparently, just weren't 'merican' enough to be as trusted as the germans and italians.

[boutons_deux]

A Minister Who Blessed Trump Inauguration Just Issed A Dire Warning To Him & Republicans

The Reverend Samuel Rodriguez ... now says that Trump lied to him (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/19/sam-rodriguez-latino-evangelical-pastor-donald-trump-inauguration-lah-pkg.cnn)back in January. :lol how NAIVE to believe ANYTISH Trash says

he accepted Trump’s invitation because the president had a “change of tone” about the DREAMERs program, and promised a solution that would satisfy all involved.

In a statement today, Rodriguez blasted the president and Congress for not protecting the Dreamers and keeping their promises. He said that for too long Hispanic people have been “political bargaining chips of our powerful politicians.”

“This is an affront to the sanctity of life,” he wrote in his statement. “It is inhuman and the Hispanic community will stand for it no longer.”


Rodriguez said, “Hundreds of thousands of Hispanic young people will be overcome with fear and grief today.”

He said they are no longer going to sit idly by and be played.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/05/minister-blessed-trump-inauguration-just-issued-dire-warning-republicans/

Watcha gonna do, Padre? DHS/CBP goons gonna fuck up the Dreamers.

[ducks]

their parents fucked them up because they did not apply for vistas and things and broke the laws
just like all the men and women in jail fucked their kids by ending up in jail

[Pavlov]

their parents fucked them up because they did not apply for vistas and things and broke the laws
just like all the men and women in jail fucked their kids by ending up in jailJudging from the general outcome they look like pretty decent parents tbh. To equate them with murderers and other felons is pretty laughable.

[ducks]

not sure why all the fess everyone knows the former president broke the law with the program
trump is saying congress do it the right way so no president can do anything about it without going thru congress!
do they not have faith in congress

[ducks]

Judging from the general outcome they look like pretty decent parents tbh. To equate them with murderers and other felons is pretty laughable.

so it is ok if you are a good person to break laws great LOGIC !

[Pavlov]

not sure why all the fess everyone knows the former president broke the law with the program
trump is saying congress do it the right way so no president can do anything about it without going thru congress!
do they not have faith in congressWell it's been 16 years. Someone had to do something.



so it is ok if you are a good person to break laws great LOGIC !OK, Arpaio is a bad person because he broke the law and should go to prison for it. LOGIC!

[spurraider21]

not sure why all the fess everyone knows the former president broke the law with the program
trump is saying congress do it the right way so no president can do anything about it without going thru congress!
do they not have faith in congress
You're OK with trumps immigration executive order but not Obamas?

[ducks]

trumps is enforcing the ones on the books not creating ones

[spurraider21]

trumps is enforcing the ones on the books not creating ones
Where's your problem with the travel ban executive order

[ducks]

that is not imagration
that is people visting for a few days or weeks

[boutons_deux]

Where's your problem with the travel ban executive order

It was dickhead who pushed hard for the "unitary executive" and then Miller's TV appearance said shit like "the President's power will be unchallenged".

[spurraider21]

that is not imagration
that is people visting for a few days or weeks
So can people from Iran immigrate to the US right now?

[ElNono]

& that was totally appropriate. Sure, now it looks suspect, but, if I'm living in Japan and the U.S. places a Sunday morning wakeup call that murders 3,000 Japanese soldiers & citizens, the Japs would come on ta my house in like the first thing once the apple cart was righted.

& they'd be right & entitled.

No it wasn't. You're criminalizing 'what they might think'. When you start generalizing and stereotyping is when you end up with all Republicans are Nazis, all Democrats are Antifa, all Muslims are terrorists, all jews are penny-pinchers, etc... It's idiocy.

[ElNono]

people punish kids all the time
it is called abortion no fault of their own
they get punished so much they DIE

You clearly were dropped on your head as a kid, and nobody here is pointing fingers, tbh...

[Thread]

No it wasn't. You're criminalizing 'what they might think'. When you start generalizing and stereotyping is when you end up with all Republicans are Nazis, all Democrats are Antifa, all Muslims are terrorists, all jews are penny-pinchers, etc... It's idiocy.

You're out of your mind, El.

[Thread]

their parents fucked them up because they did not apply for vistas and things and broke the laws
just like all the men and women in jail fucked their kids by ending up in jail

That's it & that's all.

[Thread]

A Minister Who Blessed Trump Inauguration Just Issed A Dire Warning To Him & Republicans

The Reverend Samuel Rodriguez ... now says that Trump lied to him (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/19/sam-rodriguez-latino-evangelical-pastor-donald-trump-inauguration-lah-pkg.cnn)back in January. :lol how NAIVE to believe ANYTISH Trash says

he accepted Trump’s invitation because the president had a “change of tone” about the DREAMERs program, and promised a solution that would satisfy all involved.

In a statement today, Rodriguez blasted the president and Congress for not protecting the Dreamers and keeping their promises. He said that for too long Hispanic people have been “political bargaining chips of our powerful politicians.”

“This is an affront to the sanctity of life,” he wrote in his statement. “It is inhuman and the Hispanic community will stand for it no longer.”


Rodriguez said, “Hundreds of thousands of Hispanic young people will be overcome with fear and grief today.”

He said they are no longer going to sit idly by and be played.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/05/minister-blessed-trump-inauguration-just-issued-dire-warning-republicans/

Watcha gonna do, Padre? DHS/CBP goons gonna fuck up the Dreamers.







Eh, he just wanted to be on television & close to power. You know, be a big shot.

Now he's been back to groveling with the collection plate & tidying. No more big shot.

[Blake]

AP:

"NEW YORK (AP) — Fifteen states and the District of Columbia sued Wednesday to block President Donald Trump's plan to end a program protecting young immigrants from deportation — an act Washington state's attorney general called part of a "dark time for our country."

The lawsuit filed in federal court in Brooklyn asked a judge to conclude that the president's action involving the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, is unconstitutional.

"

[spurraider21]

Unlikely tbh

[rmt]

I agree that the DOJ needs to do more to stop employers from hiring illegals, but that alone isn't going to stop the problem. DACA recipients are eligible for state-funded benefits in some states. People will still come illegally for the handouts.

eVerify and the wall can both be parts of an overall immigration plan, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

eVerify and heavy fines for employers who hire illegals will help stop adults. It will do nothing to stem the tide of children brought/sent here. And it does cost us taxpayers money to feed, clothe and educate these children (plus extra cost for ESOL students) - not to mention resident state college tuition over out of state AMERICAN CITIZENS. And yes, our kids are competing with these kids for college - gee, I wonder who these liberal colleges prefer - the undocumented, first generation, low-income Hispanic kid or my Christian, home-schooled, Asian Girl Scout. I don't have to wonder - full ride for the former and decline for the latter.

As long as the sentiment is "it's not their fault" and amnesty, they will continue to come. Follow the law - if you don't like the law, change it.

[Blake]

eVerify and heavy fines for employers who hire illegals will help stop adults. It will do nothing to stem the tide of children brought/sent here. And it does cost us taxpayers money to feed, clothe and educate these children (plus extra cost for ESOL students) - not to mention resident state college tuition over out of state AMERICAN CITIZENS. And yes, our kids are competing with these kids for college - gee, I wonder who these liberal colleges prefer - the undocumented, first generation, low-income Hispanic kid or my Christian, home-schooled, Asian Girl Scout. I don't have to wonder - full ride for the former and decline for the latter.

As long as the sentiment is "it's not their fault" and amnesty, they will continue to come. Follow the law - if you don't like the law, change it.

Lol home schooled

[spurraider21]

Yeah Asians do horribly in the college admissions process :lol

[rmt]

Yeah Asians do horribly in the college admissions process :lol

Do you think they are treated fairly? Do you think that the process is color-blind? That race doesn't matter. That admission is based on merit - not the color of one's skin? LOL.

[ElNono]

their parents fucked them up because they did not apply for vistas and things and broke the laws
just like all the men and women in jail fucked their kids by ending up in jail

This is stupid. men and women going to jail doesn't automatically causes their kids to be accused of committing any offense.

[ElNono]

Do you think they are treated fairly? Do you think that the process is color-blind? That race doesn't matter. That admission is based on merit - not the color of one's skin? LOL.

This is where you show your true colors, pun intended...

[ElNono]

You're out of your mind, El.

Cool comeback... I gather you ran out of arguments :lol

[dabom]

ElNono taking over the pitiful state of the political forum. :lol

[spurraider21]

Cool comeback... I gather you ran out of arguments :lol
He's just not comfortable saying "fuck brown and yellow people"

[rmt]

This is where you show your true colors, pun intended...

This board is so dominated by the topic of race and yet no one answers the questions when the shoe is on the other foot (topic of reverse discrimination). Who will step up and say that an asian student with the same resume/scores/gpa/extra-curriculars as a black or hispanic student has an equal chance of being accepted into an Ivy? That race does not play a role? Simple question, but what, I'm racist, because I ask?

[Pavlov]

This board is so dominated by the topic of race and yet no one answers the questions when the shoe is on the other foot (topic of reverse discrimination). Who will step up and say that an asian student with the same resume/scores/gpa/extra-curriculars as a black or hispanic student has an equal chance of being accepted into an Ivy? That race does not play a role? Simple question, but what, I'm racist, because I ask?I'm sure more legacies than brown people leapfrogged your daughter. Not a peep about those though.

[ElNono]

This board is so dominated by the topic of race and yet no one answers the questions when the shoe is on the other foot (topic of reverse discrimination). Who will step up and say that an asian student with the same resume/scores/gpa/extra-curriculars as a black or hispanic student has an equal chance of being accepted into an Ivy? That race does not play a role? Simple question, but what, I'm racist, because I ask?

You're not racist because you ask. The problem is that it's more anecdotal than quantifiable, AFAIK.

Instead of seeking an honest response to your questions, you pre-assume what the response is (that's the added LOL at the end of your post, btw) based on your racial bias.

It's difficult to take these arguments seriously without having some non-anecdotal evidence of :cry the struggle of asians to enter college :cry

[rmt]

You're not racist because you ask. The problem is that it's more anecdotal than quantifiable, AFAIK.

Instead of seeking an honest response to your questions, you pre-assume what the response is (that's the added LOL at the end of your post, btw) based on your racial bias.

It's difficult to take these arguments seriously without having some non-anecdotal evidence of :cry the struggle of asians to enter college :cry

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2017/08/07/look-data-and-arguments-about-asian-americans-and-admissions-elite

[ElNono]

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2017/08/07/look-data-and-arguments-about-asian-americans-and-admissions-elite

So basically, two colleges are mentioned, one has been cleared and the Harvard lawsuit is still pending.

Also from your article:
More than two-thirds of colleges reported to the National Association for College Admission Counseling that the race and ethnicity of applicants has "no influence" on admissions decisions, and only 3.4 percent said that it has "considerable influence."


The reality is that it's hard to get into top colleges, and even people of any color with great SAT, etc tests are passed over, due strictly to capacity.

What's ironic about this topic, is that when government tools like affirmative action are brought up, the instant reaction from some crowd is 'reverse racism!'.

The question really is, do Asian Americans, as a total percentage of the US population, get the same or better admission percentage into top schools? The answer (again from your article) is, heck yeah.

See, we can have a conversation about minorities without resorting to racial stereotyping...

[Spurtacular]

He's just not comfortable saying "fuck brown and yellow people"

Seems like a recipe for success; embracing the unwanteds of ThirdWorldCo.

[Pavlov]

Seems like a recipe for success; embracing the unwanteds of ThirdWorldCo.How are DACA recipients unwanted compared to other immigrants?

[Spurtacular]

How are DACA recipients unwanted compared to other immigrants?

So, you're question is how are freeloaders unwanted compared to law abiding persons? I think that question answers itself, cuck.

[boutons_deux]

To cheer up you Nazis, nativist white male nationalists, K?KK, etc, know that you and your marginalized assholes are in all countries. It's probably genetic so eugenics could be a solution.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1686321918127522/

[Pavlov]

So, you're question is how are freeloaders unwanted compared to law abiding persons? I think that question answers itself, cuck.
Are you calling DACA recipients freeloaders? Explain.

[rjv]

Are you calling DACA recipients freeloaders? Explain. i guess this is some sort of metalanguage. sort of a james joyce thing where it doesn't really matter if anyone understands what he is referring to but, in more general terms, i can think of a lot of people (and corporations) that are freeloaders.

[boutons_deux]

Trump gives DACA recipients terrible advice

The best advice is not to listen to Trump.

Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

For all of those (DACA) that are concerned about your status during the 6 month period,

you have nothing to worry about -

No action!

8:42 AM - Sep 7, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/905788459301908480)

===============================

Trump’s tweet reportedly came at the urging of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

Sam Stein of the Daily Beast noted (https://twitter.com/samstein/status/905793982277586944) that Trump’s reference to a “6 month period” was meant to reassure DACA recipients

that they won’t be deported during that window of time.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-gives-daca-recipients-terrible-advice-4d0730a6ec18/

[boutons_deux]

white male nationalist racist Steve Bannon says far-right hates Trump’s DACA decision

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/steve-bannon-says-far-right-hates-trumps-daca-decision/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

5 Reasons Trump Is Wrong On DACA

1. DACA beneficiaries try harder.

For the past five years, the program has stopped the deportation of young people who were brought into this country illegally as children and who are now in school or working. There are 10,000 DACA recipients in Connecticut. Eastern Connecticut State University has 116 DACA scholars, including some from other states (http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-undocumented-students-scholarship-20160510-story.html).

"These students are here on an academic scholarship, so the majority have 3.5 GPA or better, and a lot of them are double majors,"

2. Yes, DACA beneficiaries do create jobs.

They start more businesses (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2017/08/28/437956/daca-recipients-economic-educational-gains-continue-grow/)than the American public does as a whole, in fact.

This is hardly surprising, given that newcomers to this land have long been entrepreneurial: Half of the Fortune 500 companies in Connecticut today were founded by immigrants (http://www.courant.com/opinion/editorials/hc-ed-gop-official-ignorant-on-immigration-2-20170817-story.html)or their children

3. They do fill jobs too, and they pay taxes.

The largest study (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2017/08/28/437956/daca-recipients-economic-educational-gains-continue-grow/)of its kind to date found that "at least 72 percent of the top 25 Fortune 500 companies employ DACA recipients." That's why executives at these companies — including Apple, Facebook, Microsoft (http://www.courant.com/topic/business/technology-industry/microsoft-ORCRP009947-topic.html) and Amazon — are begging the tone-deaf president to leave DACA in place.

4. Booting them out would be inhumane.

Why punish DACA beneficiaries? Many of them have lived in the United States since grade school. They came with parents who were looking for opportunity or to escape oppression. Some of them can't speak the language of the land their parents took them away from many years ago.
To throw them out of the country they've called home since childhood seems heartless. (no, IS heartless. fucking weasal words)

5. What about making America great again?

This nation has been "a beacon of freedom and opportunity" for people like Uber's chief technology officer, Thuan Pham. He was just 10 (https://newsroom.uber.com/dreamers/)when his mother crammed him and his brother onto an old fishing boat for a terrifying journey from Vietnam that would eventually take them to the U.S.

America should be making citizenship easier for those who risk so much to live, study and work here, and for their families. The nation should be stapling green cards to their diplomas (as Hillary Clinton once said), not putting them in handcuffs.

http://www.courant.com/opinion/editorials/hc-ed-5-reasons-trump-wrong-on-daca-20170905-story.html#testnws=politicsnow&track=_newsletter_politics-now___________20170907

[leemajors]

most leaders did (and still do). this is a utilitarian country that relies on consequential morality more than any other moral compass. some leaders just went even further than others in regards to how many of the "few" needed to be sacrificed and were more selective about who the "many" were. not sure where FDR would rank in regards to the totality of his sins versus the sum of his virtues.

agreed, i had just heard about the weird sex shit on Dollop Podcast recently.

[boutons_deux]

Modern Family Exec Producer Says ‘F*ck You’ to Christians Who Support Killing DACA

“Dear Christian, if you support realdonaldtrump’s decision to end DACA then your Christianity is bullshit. But on the other hand, fuck you,” said Danny Zuker in a now-deleted tweet

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/546832953230106625/0AnbYmlX_normal.jpegDanny Zuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)
(https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)✔@DannyZuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)

I do apologize for not being more polite about ripping people from the only homes they've ever known. Please forgive me U sanctimonious ass. https://twitter.com/waldimar/status/904580673008046080 … (https://t.co/KVIirvedrD)
12:57 AM - Sep 4, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/904584095107235840)


Danny Zuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)
(https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)✔@DannyZuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)

Replying to @MrKppe realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/904721389294424064)
Not shitting on a whole religion. Just the MINORITY of that religion who thinks it's awesome to tear people from the only home they've known
10:12 AM - Sep 4, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/904723907512373249)


Danny Zuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)
(https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)✔@DannyZuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)

Replying to @MrKppe realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/_/status/904721389294424064)
Not shitting on a whole religion. Just the MINORITY of that religion who thinks it's awesome to tear people from the only home they've known
10:12 AM - Sep 4, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/904723907512373249)


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/546832953230106625/0AnbYmlX_normal.jpegDanny Zuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)
(https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)✔@DannyZuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)

Replying to Toddstarnes (https://twitter.com/_/status/904794780135297024)
You're right. What's that verse from Mathew again where Jesus sends all the resident alien children to a country they've never known?
2:57 PM - Sep 4, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/904795617976696832)


Danny Zuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)
(https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)✔@DannyZuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)

I do wish people had half the "outrage" they have for me typing "fuck" for Trump literally tearing families apart.
3:37 PM - Sep 4, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/904805588021854208)


Danny Zuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)
(https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)✔@DannyZuker (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker)

How's this? It seems tearing families apart is at odds with the Judaeo/Christian values of SOME of those advocating ending DACA Better?
4:12 PM - Sep 4, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/904814404276936704)

https://www.mediaite.com/entertainment/modern-family-exec-producer-says-fck-you-to-christians-who-support-killing-daca/

[Chris]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/21433059_969365379870839_7814959866888159888_n.png ?oh=0897100e3834b8d85a33ab53cc7a57b3&oe=5A1F1C15

[Chris]

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[Chris]

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How Small Can Donald Trump Make the Presidency?

In rescinding daca, President Trump has yet again embraced a policy that

ignores the real challenges facing the country,

further divides it, and

tarnishes its international reputation.

For some time now, it has been clear that Donald Trump is wading ever deeper into the cesspool.

From his reaction to the white-supremacist-inspired violence in Charlottesville, to his attempt to bar transgender people from serving in the armed forces, to his pardon of Joe Arpaio, the controversial former Maricopa County, Arizona, sheriff who rounded up and mistreated Latinos,

Trump has recently been intent on pandering to his most embittered and prejudiced supporters. SPURSTALKERS! :lol

From a cold political standpoint, these reprehensible acts may contain some logic.

With his approval ratings in the mid-thirties, and

with the Russia investigation seemingly closing in on him and his family,

Trump’s survival depends on his ability to whip up his remaining supporters.

Fear of incurring these supporters’ wrath (and a possible primary challenge) presumably prevents many congressional Republicans from breaking with the President.

The message was clear: Trump was returning to the nativist themes that propelled him during his campaign last year.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, indicated that

Trump wouldn’t sign any immigration bill that didn’t also address other contentious issues, like

border security and the

rules governing legal immigration.

For more than a decade now, Congress has failed to pass this type of comprehensive reform. On Capitol Hill, few people believe it is doable now.

( ... meaning, DACA will be operationally terminated in 6 months. Goons deporting Dreamers. Sieg Heil for all you ST KKK/Nazis )

Ending daca is now the official policy of the Trump Administration.

Yet again, Trump has embraced a policy that targets the politically powerless, ignores the real challenges facing the country, further divides it, and tarnishes its international reputation. (“What a cruel, sour place is Trump’s America,”

A Presidency that has been shrinking before our eyes practically since its first day has been further diminished. Eventually, it may well shrink to nothing.

But, between now and then,

look for things to get even uglier.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/how-small-can-donald-trump-make-the-presidency?mbid=nl_TNY%20Template%20-%20With%20Photo%20(47)&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=11870044&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1240592215&spReportId=MTI0MDU5MjIxNQS2

[Pavlov]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/21433059_969365379870839_7814959866888159888_n.png ?oh=0897100e3834b8d85a33ab53cc7a57b3&oe=5A1F1C15So Trump is breaking the law by letting this go on for six months.

OK

[boutons_deux]

Make Racists Afraid Again


http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/kkktree.jpg

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/07/look-just-showed-former-capital-confederacy/

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https://30m-assets.storage.googleapis.com/www.timetobreak.com/2016/05/13102862_629363117222617_2658372242337589361_n.jpg

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Iowans doin what Iowans are

http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2017-09-07-at-12.27.41-PM.png

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/07/iowa-students-wore-kkk-hoods-burned-cross-just-got-deserve/

[RandomGuy]

Donald Trump is right: Congress should pass DACA

The repeated failure to pass bills has left America with immigration laws that are unenforceable


IF YOU could design people in a laboratory to be an adornment to America they would look like the recipients of DACA. Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an executive action issued in 2012 by Barack Obama to protect most of those who were brought to the country as children from deportation, covers about 800,000 people. They are a high-achieving lot. More than 90% of those now aged over 25 are employed; they create businesses at twice the rate of the public as a whole; many have spouses and children who are citizens. They are American in every sense bar the bureaucratic one.

Correcting that ought to be about as hard politically as declaring a new public holiday. Instead, there is a good chance that Congress will return them to their prior limbo, or worse. Recipients of DACA were obliged to give their addresses to the federal government, which is charged with immigration enforcement, making it considerably easier to round them up now. After the Trump administration announced that it would end the programme in six months’ time, and called on Congress to pass a bill to replace it, the White House issued a set of talking points which suggested that Immigration and Customs Enforcement would find this personal information, given in exchange for shelter, very useful.


But the choice on DACA is not between the rule of law and rule by presidential edict. It is between two different types of legal failure—executive actions that are possibly unconstitutional and a set of immigration laws that are definitely impossible to enforce.

https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21728647-repeated-failure-pass-bills-has-left-america-immigration-laws-are

This is one case where the stopped clock is right.

Trump was right to phase it out. It was questionable when Obama did it, and shameful that Congress hasn't taken up an update on something that everybody pretty much agrees should have been done years ago.

This provides the right fire lit under Congress' ass to get this shit done, IMO.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone is going to be deported.

[boutons_deux]

A Repug Congress 2001 - 2006 didn't, couldn't pass immigration reform, and this Repug Congress won't, either, esp not in an election year.

DACA is dead. Trash killed DACA to pander to the Repug KKK/Nazi base, and he won't piss them off by extending it in 6 months.

[spurraider21]

https://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/schrodingers%20immigrant.jpg

[Chris]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21273423_10159787457615725_5832508778091525991_o.j pg?oh=6bccb3a942a900249f27e45cc2839981&oe=5A58931E

[RandomGuy]

https://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/schrodingers%20immigrant.jpg

Lol

[Chris]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20645542_10159791704575725_354523789425118429_o.jp g?oh=a62bc71e7f45d14d3f4418020e79eae2&oe=5A1F998B

[Pavlov]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21273423_10159787457615725_5832508778091525991_o.j pg?oh=6bccb3a942a900249f27e45cc2839981&oe=5A58931E


https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20645542_10159791704575725_354523789425118429_o.jp g?oh=a62bc71e7f45d14d3f4418020e79eae2&oe=5A1F998BSo Trump is breaking the law.

OK.

[Spurtacular]

Are you calling DACA recipients freeloaders? Explain.

Free money for illegals, brah.

[Pavlov]

Free money for illegals, brah.What free money are they getting?

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Kasich campaigning for Repug nomination (at least for the Hispanic vote)

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1687282801364767/

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/21430070_1473352279380311_918312502038915839_n.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=cb2b80f05a72f74a70836a334a66f770&oe=5A17AD90

[spurraider21]

Ding