****Week 1 Official Thread, sponsored by AP's Return to Minneapolis as a Saint****

[Fabbs]

Anyone else really dislike "icing" the kicker with a timeout? That shit feels like it cheapens the game imo
Yes and no.
Annoying but it makes for good gamesmanship / strategy.
Perfect example of how it can be game changing.

UNT if you have finished whacking off to Chinamans missing, it was clearly a offensive line breakdown not a ching chong failure.

[Clipper Nation]

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:lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Yes and no.
Annoying but it makes for good gamesmanship / strategy.
Perfect example of how it can be game changing.

UNT if you have finished whacking off to Chinamans missing, it was clearly a offensive line breakdown not a ching chong failure.

So it's another fuckup on special teams like last year at the Raiders game. Chargers, lol. But replacing Lambo with a chinaman was :lol still

[leemajors]

that'll be the only time all year though. That college announcer guy is ESPN MNF's #1 ever since they lost Tirico to be a second string at NBC (an enormous loss for MNF, honestly)

Tirico was terrible.

[Chinook]

They need to have Hubie to the analysis for all the MNF games. He may not know shit about football, but it'd be more entertaining that what we saw last night.

[Chinook]

It's not nearly as bad as the gimmicky cheap shit that overrated Erin Rodgers pulls several times every single fucking game, tbh. That cheating loser must average 5 free plays per game at least

I can't stand those procedural manipulations. Penalties should not be something one team exploits; they should just be the consequence of a mistake or bad play. It slows down the game to have those calls, and it defeats the spirit of the rules. Rodgers like Manning before him is the Harden of football.

[spurraider21]

They need to have Hubie to the analysis for all the MNF games. He may not know shit about football, but it'd be more entertaining that what we saw last night.
Every time someone makes a play... "Now you gotta give him credit"

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I can't stand those procedural manipulations. Penalties should not be something one team exploits; they should just be the consequence of a mistake or bad play. It slows down the game to have those calls, and it defeats the spirit of the rules. Rodgers like Manning before him is the Harden of football.

YES! Great analogy but... Throw out "... like Manning..." because Manning didn't do that nearly like Rodgers does.

What the league needs to do is... similar to fake punts and kicks, legalize pass interference on free plays... because it's just too one-sided and gimmicky otherwise. But you can defensive hold on all the receivers as it stands and only get the same 5 yard penalty (only difference is it's a 1st and 10 instead of 1st and 5, which the Pukers would likely decline), and DBs should learn to do exactly just that when they're playing Rodgers and that shit happens right now.

[Brazil]

KC @ NE *** Safe Bet of the Week ***



NO @ MIN *** Upset of the Week ***


:lol

[Clipper Nation]

I can't stand those procedural manipulations. Penalties should not be something one team exploits; they should just be the consequence of a mistake or bad play. It slows down the game to have those calls, and it defeats the spirit of the rules. Rodgers like Manning before him is the Harden of football.
Rodgers is nothing like Frauden. Unlike Frauden's "fouls," which are the result of him flopping or manufacturing contact, the other team is actually doing something to earn the flag by jumping offsides. Coaches have had their QBs do this for decades situationally; Rodgers is just really good at it and has turned it into a weapon.

The NFL equivalent to Frauden would be a quarterback who underthrows the deep ball on purpose to draw DPI calls, isn't allowed to be breathed on by opposing defenses, and chokes in the playoffs every year. Peyton comes to mind.

[Kyle Orton]

Remember when Peyton beat the chargers in the playoffs basically by making them jump offsides all game.

[Clipper Nation]

Remember when Peyton set the NFL record for most one-and-dones in playoff history?

[spurraider21]

Rodgers is nothing like Frauden. Unlike Frauden's "fouls," which are the result of him flopping or manufacturing contact, the other team is actually doing something to earn the flag by jumping offsides. Coaches have had their QBs do this for decades situationally; Rodgers is just really good at it and has turned it into a weapon.

The NFL equivalent to Frauden would be a quarterback who underthrows the deep ball on purpose to draw DPI calls, isn't allowed to be breathed on by opposing defenses, and chokes in the playoffs every year. Peyton comes to mind.
:lmao and yet you jerk off to "average Joe" Flacco

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao and yet you jerk off to "average Joe" Flacco
Elite Joe Flacco does draw a lot of bogus DPI calls, but that's the only one of those criteria he meets. He isn't coddled by refs like Peyton was, and he's a legendary playoff QB (for the right reasons, not the wrong reasons like Peyton was).

[spurraider21]

Elite Joe Flacco does draw a lot of bogus DPI calls, but that's the only one of those criteria he meets. He isn't coddled by refs like Peyton was, and he's a legendary playoff QB (for the right reasons, not the wrong reasons like Peyton was).
:lol

Average-ish qb with one elite playoff run. Here we are 5 years later and you act like Joe Flacco perennially performs like the 2012 playoffs

[Clipper Nation]

:lol "Average-ish"
:lol "One elite playoff run"

Fact is, if your Seahawks had Flacco, they would be a dynasty right now instead of a one-ring wonder.

[spurraider21]

:lol "Average-ish"
:lol "One elite playoff run"

Fact is, if your Seahawks had Flacco, they would be a dynasty right now instead of a one-ring wonder.
Yes, average-ish. His play for the past decade reflects that

Yes, one elite playoff run. His historic super bowl run. Nothing he's done even sniffs that run.

That's yourspeculation , not a "fact"

[Clipper Nation]

Yes, average-ish. His play for the past decade reflects that

Yes, one elite playoff run. His historic super bowl run. Nothing he's done even sniffs that run.

That's yourspeculation , not a "fact"

:lol Flacco has the third-best playoff record behind only Big Ben and Brady. Most road playoff wins in NFL history. Tied with Big Ben for third among active QBs in career playoff passing TDs. 5th among active QBs in career playoff passing yards. 8th among active QBs in career playoff passer rating (if you put any stock in that). He has an elite postseason career relative to his peers, not just one good run.

Give Flacco the Legion of Boom and he has multiple rings on his finger, easily. Dude is money in the playoffs, unlike a certain game manager who's always needed to be carried by his running game and defense.

[unleashbaynes]

Welp, pack it in guys. Apparently Joe Flacco is a better QB than the likes of Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, etc.

[unleashbaynes]

Oh, and Peyton Manning sucks guys he only put up 5500 yards with 55 Tds and only 10 INTs in 2013 as a 37 yr old. A better season than Flacco could ever dream of having. And he only has 2 SB's, one more than Flacco. But he's a "fivehead" who sucks and was carried by his defense. And Baltimore's defense when they won the SB with Flacco wasn't elite at all, didn't have one of the most dominant playoff runs by a defense ever, and had no hall of famers on it.

Oh, and he definitely didn't get one of the luckiest eli manning-ish breaks i've ever seen in my life when #26 for the Broncos(doesn't deserve to be mentioned by name) completely whiffed on the coverage in a crucial situation.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lol "Average-ish"
:lol "One elite playoff run"

Fact is, if your Seahawks had Flacco, they would be a dynasty right now instead of a one-ring wonder.
lmfao....... Flacco would be in the hospital by week 3 every year as a non mobile QB playing behind that high school level offensive line they always trot out

[Clipper Nation]

Maybe if Struggle didn't hold the ball for an eternity, the O-line wouldn't look quite as "high-school level."

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Maybe if Struggle didn't hold the ball for an eternity, the O-line wouldn't look quite as "high-school level."

Wat? RW is a scrambler... he's arguably the most paranoid guy in the pocket, do you even watch the games?
Avante

[Kyle Orton]

Remember when Peyton set the NFL record for most one-and-dones in playoff history?

and to think the chargers got butt fucked by det guy :(

[UNT Eagles 2016]

and to think the chargers got butt fucked by det guy :(

2006, 2009 etc... Rivers was a career playoff choker even with HFA. His best runs were in '07 and the tail end of '13 actually

[Clipper Nation]

Wat? RW is a scrambler... he's arguably the most paranoid guy in the pocket, do you even watch the games?
Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483)
I do watch the games, and Struggle holds onto the ball way too long. Normally, when your O-line is bad, veteran QBs will adjust to get the ball out as quickly and efficiently as possible.

:lol Begging for the old faggot to log on and make your shitty takes look better by comparison

[spurraider21]

and to think the chargers got butt fucked by det guy :(
Why else do you think he hates Manning and Brady but adores Flacco and Eli

[spurraider21]

Vikings and Chiefs had the most impressive performances imo.

If the chiefs can actually sustain the quick-strike element on offense (and they have the weapons for it), they're terrifying.

Vikes were hot early last season too, but they were ravaged by injury on their OL and at RB, leaving Bradford out to dry. Their defense is still top 5. If their O can stay healthy they're a more complete team than green bay

Not buying the jags as a real team yet. Defensively, they looked awesome and are loaded with talent. But Houston's offense is also a dumpster fire so that game wasn't really a litmus test. Jags O still didn't look very good and Robinson going down is crushing. They can't rely on 3 yards and a cloud of dust from fournette when they play a team that can move the ball a little bit