LOL pots and pans fellators. Out of the world cup and tying venezuela in BsAires

[hater]

:lmao

Midget

:lmao they should disband this country and call it South Mexico :lol

They are basically on same choking level in soccer.

:lmao their best hope is to compete for a WC spot in syria :lmao

[ElNono]

Pathetic and shameful, tbh... you can't spin this shit...

[Canyonero]

If we could play all 18 games against Colombia we would qualify with perfect score tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

If we could play all 18 games against Colombia we would qualify with perfect score tbh
:lol

[hater]

If we could play all 18 games against Colombia we would qualify with perfect score tbh

And if you could play all 18 vs venezuela youd be winless

[DAF86]

And if you could play all 18 vs venezuela youd be winless

But if we could play Colombia though.

[hater]

This is what Pots And Pans Nation is relegated to now

Fantasy sci-fi scenarios :lmao

[dfens]

This is what Pots And Pans Nation is relegated to now

Fantasy sci-fi scenarios :lmao

son even if argentina don't qualify they'd still have a higher chance than colomobia to ring in '18 tbh. Just saying tbh.

[hater]

son even if argentina don't qualify they'd still have a higher chance than colomobia to ring in '18 tbh. Just saying tbh.

So do 25 other teams

Fifa is a mafiaworse than La Cossa Nostra

[140]

Good game last night tbh son...:toast

[dfens]

So do 25 other teams

Fifa is a mafiaworse than La Cossa Nostra

While FIFA is corrupt, the game is won on the pitch 95% of the time, so you need to accept that your team plays monkeyball and they were/are never relevant outside south america. Argentina for better or for worse has a history of strong results and got to some finals/late stages. Colombia lost to 7-1 brasil ... tells you all you need to know.

[dfens]

Good game last night tbh son...:toast

sons why do you niggas play so wide open in SA ? I swear each time I watch a SA game I get the feeling of watching an NFL game, there is rarely a proper transition between offense and defense, the midfield looks barren many times and often the players look scattered on the pitch and not in a clear formation .... it's entertaining for sure and leads to a lot of spectacular (individual) football, but it's also a guaranteed way to lose to a serious team, which will penalize this behavior rather quickly.

I say brasil goes no further then QF in russia, the first strong euro side they meet will give them fits. What you think son?

[apalisoc_9]

sons why do you niggas play so wide open in SA ? I swear each time I watch a SA game I get the feeling of watching an NFL game, there is rarely a proper transition between offense and defense, the midfield looks barren many times and often the players look scattered on the pitch and not in a clear formation .... it's entertaining for sure and leads to a lot of spectacular (individual) football, but it's also a guaranteed way to lose to a serious team, which will penalize this behavior rather quickly.

I say brasil goes no further then QF in russia, the first strong euro side they meet will give them fits. What you think son?

brasil is winning russia...In matches that matter, Brazil has looked like oneof the top 3 most organized team. They havent played any real matches for ages though since they were virtually qualified in matchday 12...

most games are friendly exhibitions now.


Brazil is winning 2018.

[hater]

While FIFA is corrupt, the game is won on the pitch 95% of the time, so you need to accept that your team plays monkeyball and they were/are never relevant outside south america. Argentina for better or for worse has a history of strong results and got to some finals/late stages. Colombia lost to 7-1 brasil ... tells you all you need to know.

And Brasil lost 7-1 to a booger eater

Nobody said Colombia is a behemoth. Well be happy to advance to the 2nd stage and call it a WC

But FIFA has been a mafia the past century and lol no 95% of wc games have not been fair

Id say more like 50%

[hater]

brasil is winning russia...In matches that matter, Brazil has looked like oneof the top 3 most organized team. They havent played any real matches for ages though since they were virtually qualified in matchday 12...

most games are friendly exhibitions now.


Brazil is winning 2018.

Germany and France have the best chance as Russia will be more familiar to them than to other teams

Brasil has a bad start in a game and they will kiss the wc goodbye. Their failure buffer is very small

[apalisoc_9]

And Brasil lost 7-1 to a booger eater

Nobody said Colombia is a behemoth. Well be happy to advance to the 2nd stage and call it a WC

But FIFA has been a mafia the past century and lol no 95% of wc games have not been fair

Id say more like 50%

He only says that because europeans have benefited the most from officials.

Dirty european tactic is to make a big deal out of everyone else "scandal" and to hide their own.

[hater]

True

Lets not forget the panzers were injecting themselves full of hulk steroids as recent as 1986 tbqh

[140]

He only says that because europeans have benefited the most from officials.

Dirty european tactic is to make a big deal out of everyone else "scandal" and to hide their own.


True

Lets not forget the panzers were injecting themselves full of hulk steroids as recent as 1986 tbqh
Truthnukes :wow

[apalisoc_9]

True

Lets not forget the panzers were injecting themselves full of hulk steroids as recent as 1986 tbqh

Notice how somehow they convinced the world Korea/japan was worse than England 66..:lol

France 98 is also one of the top 3 worst officiated world cups of all time.

it's their tactics..

Same with America, Call another country a threat be the only one who actually invaded and kill civilians..

Its no different bro..

[hater]

Yup I mean the FBI had to get involved in 2015 because FIFA bosses were blatantly geeting money from governments and organizations

Can you imagine what kind of bribing and cheating was hapoeing in 1986?

How about 1956 :lmao

[dfens]

brasil is winning russia...In matches that matter, Brazil has looked like oneof the top 3 most organized team. They havent played any real matches for ages though since they were virtually qualified in matchday 12...

most games are friendly exhibitions now.


Brazil is winning 2018.
son brasil ain't winning shit. I'm game with trash talking to y'all boys but tbh the reality check is pretty brutal for south america:
- except a GOAT powered argentina run y'all niggas been irelevant since 2002 ... that 15 years ago sons
- a top chile squad and b2b SA champs playing to win got cucked by germany's youth team :wow
- misty is getting old and the argentine team has no coherent direction
- brasil is basing their game on an untested team, these niggas never played a knockout game together, they are all big names but you don't win world cups with new teams. They are also not quite tested with real tactical matches as SA matches lack the tactical rigor of a high stakes knockout game at the wc. Watch them get 1-0 by an uninspiring france/germany/italy/whatever. Y'all niggas gonna call it luck/shits/jesus/mafifa but you know deep down it's coming :lol
- besides argentina and brasil the rest of the teams from SA are nothing but portugal level teams at best. They're not winning jack.
- tbh y'all niggas don't see how football has changed in the past 20 years and still try to play by talent alone without understanding that the margin of winning is irrelevant compared to a solid tactical positioning on the pitch. When you get players from atletico/psg/barcelona/real and let them play their game you'll get talented but flawed squad, typical for argentina(except '14)/brasil lately. Sure it looks nice on paper, where it looks like the latest 5-3-2 into 3-4-3 shit, but it's just on paper. You watch a so called big SA game (e.g. colombia-brasil) and the middle of the pitch has poor coverage by both teams. Mind you that's 2 top teams.

TBH I have you SA niggas not winning till '26 at the very earliest tbh. Brasil might do very well in '22 as all conditions will be there (neymar-qatar connection, heat, anti-europe environment, etc). Still, brasil's last WC level squad was 15 years ago so I'm not holding my breath.


And Brasil lost 7-1 to a booger eater
Nobody said Colombia is a behemoth. Well be happy to advance to the 2nd stage and call it a WC
But FIFA has been a mafia the past century and lol no 95% of wc games have not been fair
Id say more like 50%
son everybody cheats. it's no surprise, still it's not the lakers-kings every time except for the weird south korea appearance. In rest you have strong home courts. Brasil being the latest with vs chile, vs croatia, vs mexico in '14. If it isn't south korea level it's homecourt tbh.
that booger eater almost has more top 4s then all south america put together ..


Germany and France have the best chance as Russia will be more familiar to them than to other teams
Brasil has a bad start in a game and they will kiss the wc goodbye. Their failure buffer is very small
completely agree on Brasil, they are one meltdown from elimination and with a team of neymar/marcelo/luiz/etc you know it's gonna come.
not sure about Germany and France being the only favorites. Imo spain is very dangerous with their new attack and are big contenders tbh, and italy will again throw a monkey wrench at all attacking teams so they might go deep on good matchups.


He only says that because europeans have benefited the most from officials.
Dirty european tactic is to make a big deal out of everyone else "scandal" and to hide their own.
:lmao son brasil jobbed a lot in 14. south korea are in a league of their own. compared to these 2 '06 and '10 were clean cups. stop talking out of your ass tbh.
lol thinking europe is special at this.


True
Lets not forget the panzers were injecting themselves full of hulk steroids as recent as 1986 tbqh
:lmao:lmao niggas talking bout 86. Son maradona won that cup coked up like a motherfucker, what do you think cocaine does? its a nervous system stimulant and agitator, how do you think that nigga could run like that ? He probably ran in his sleep :lol and it was rampant, lol, many people used it back then, we were just more systematic and organized at doping but the whole 80s are :lol And organized doping is as old as sport, you think there is any top team out there not doing dirty stuff? I bet you these atheltes don't have a clue what the fuck they inject in them, they probably think it's aspirine :lmao Of course they are designer substances who are all but impossible to trace. I mean look at EPO in the tour de france, that's impossible to trace and gives the athletes crazy oxygenation.



Truthnukes :wow
my nigga tbh:lol



Notice how somehow they convinced the world Korea/japan was worse than England 66..:lol

France 98 is also one of the top 3 worst officiated world cups of all time.

it's their tactics..

Same with America, Call another country a threat be the only one who actually invaded and kill civilians..

Its no different bro..
this nigga talking about '66 smh :lmao:lmao:lmao we were jobbed like fuck in '66. My daddy told me everybody and their granny know we were getting jobbed, a world cup final just 20 years after the war ... it was obvious from the start, older germans will always say how proud they are of that team, they really played against everybody.
and tbh france won that cup fair and square, they beat some monster teams (italy, suker-croatia, wc champ brasil) to get that ring. it was on home court so they got the calls but don't tell me they got south korea level / brasil calls.







TBH y'all niggas need to man up and accept that south america has fallen behind in football tactics and this is obvious in all results and matches. Watch a SA qualifier and an euro qualifier. The euro will be far more boring but the game will be far more robust. The SA game will have goals and excitement, the euro game will kill its soul, but in the long this boring low-risk game is the winning strategy, like it or not. I know you boys are excited for Brassil (I'm also happy to finally see a decent brasil) but y'all sons got to keep it realistic tbh.

BTW it's the pussy way of crying "they cheat :cry :cry :cry", unless it's south korea style.

[dfens]

Yup I mean the FBI had to get involved in 2015 because FIFA bosses were blatantly geeting money from governments and organizations

Can you imagine what kind of bribing and cheating was hapoeing in 1986?

How about 1956 :lmao

son why not talk about 1936 tbh or even the scotland vs england games pre 1900?

[hater]

son why not talk about 1936 tbh or even the scotland vs england games pre 1900?

You cheaters still count those wins dont u? :lmao

[dfens]

You cheaters still count those wins dont u? :lmao

and brasil doesn't count their rings? uruguay doesn't count theirs? you think argentina don't count that '78 grain transfer to peru? get a grip son. in reality europe has been dominating the game for the last 20 years except a blip in 2002 where a MONSTER brasil squad did its thing. That team looks like an all star squad :wow ronaldo, rivaldo, ronaldinho, carlos, cafu, lucio, kaka, juninho .. just lol. So in reality south america is getting by on the past.

[hater]

Argentina should not count 1978 tbqh their military junta basically threatened other teams with a firing squad

Most world cups shouldnt count

The FBI got involved in 2015 for christ sakes

In the 70s FIFA was probably similar to Caligula times. Orgies, briberies, etc etc

IMO all countries should go back to zero world cups and Russia should be the first real competitive world cup

Deal?

[hater]

So basically Germany has as many world cups as colombia.
Good luck :lmao

Btw I think u are favorites for russia so that should be your first legit win save a manor chokejob

[140]

Brasil would've won 3 straight if not for all that shady shit in 98 tbh :lol

[dfens]

So basically Germany has as many world cups as colombia.
Good luck :lmao

Btw I think u are favorites for russia so that should be your first legit win save a manor chokejob

I see you are on that maradroga diet tbh :toast

[apalisoc_9]

but its pastores fault....:lol

[hater]

I see you are on that maradroga diet tbh :toast

And you on that Beckhembauer diet

[hater]

In soccer, this preceded, according to the report, the teams that Beckenbauer graced as the most elegant of “liberos,” the free-moving defender who could attack when he set his mind to it.

His cherished memory of 1954 is now questioned by the study’s report that players in Berne were given Pervitin, an amphetamine. It was commonly known as “speed” in sporting circles, and as “Panzer chocolate” because it had been developed to help make Nazi pilots and soldiers fly or fight for longer and better.

One aspect in the report that makes for chilling reading is that all of the players who took the dose were injected with a shared syringe. And one, the winger Richard Herrmann, died eight years later, of cirrhosis at the age of 39.

[hater]

:lol sick assholes didnt even use new syringes

[hater]

Soccer

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/sports/soccer/Doping-Study-Throws-Shadow-Over-Germanys-Success.html

GLOBAL SOCCER
Doping Study Throws Shadow Over Germany’s Success
By ROB HUGHES
AUGUST 6, 2013
SOCCER — There seems to be no place where we can hide from the drug issues contaminating the joy that sports can provide.

It is bad enough being a New York Yankees follower, now that Alex Rodriguez is finally discredited for, in the words of Major League Baseball, “use and possession of numerous forms of prohibited, performance-enhancing substances.”

But what is coming out of Berlin, following a study that looks back to most peoples’ childhood and beyond, means that even our cherished memories might no longer hold credibility.

Germany is historically one of the most revered soccer powers on earth. Its athleticism versus Brazil’s hypnotic beauty or Italy’s tactical nous dominated World Cups over the past 60 years.


Germans — previously as West Germans — always seemed so indomitable in their belief that to run the extra mile meant victory. I recall Franz Beckenbauer, the only man ever to be captain of a World Cup winning side (1974), to coach one (1990) and to organize one (2006), telling me where his inspiration came from. “I was a child of 8,” he said, “when West Germany came from behind to beat the Magical Magyars, Hungary, in the 1954 World Cup.” That final in Switzerland became known as The Miracle of Bern, and the 8-year-old Beckenbauer was on the streets to welcome the team, and his particular idol, captain Fritz Walter, when they brought home the trophy.

That, surely, is how sports grips us.

The innocence of childhood filled with the skills, the running and the spirit of our heroes.

Alas, a German government release Monday of some — but by no means all — of a 500-page study titled “Doping in Germany from 1950 to Today” lays bare the extent of drug use. And it breaks down the walls that some of us have built around our memories of how things were in “the good old days.”

Researchers at Humboldt University in Berlin and the University of Münster have detailed, among many other things, the doping of soccer players. It includes players on the 1966 West Germany side that lost one of the most venerated of all finals, in extra time against England in London in 1966.

It states that a FIFA official, Mihailo Andrejevic, wrote to the German Athletic Association regarding slight traces of the banned stimulant ephedrine in three of Germany’s players in that match.

FIFA has denied any knowledge of that letter. But its contents are in any case the tip of a monstrously large iceberg of alleged misuse throughout sports over the decades in Germany. The knowledge that East Germany systematically abused athletes by giving them dope from childhood to the top stages of world and Olympic sports appears to have been matched by West Germany.


In soccer, this preceded, according to the report, the teams that Beckenbauer graced as the most elegant of “liberos,” the free-moving defender who could attack when he set his mind to it.

His cherished memory of 1954 is now questioned by the study’s report that players in Berne were given Pervitin, an amphetamine. It was commonly known as “speed” in sporting circles, and as “Panzer chocolate” because it had been developed to help make Nazi pilots and soldiers fly or fight for longer and better.

One aspect in the report that makes for chilling reading is that all of the players who took the dose were injected with a shared syringe. And one, the winger Richard Herrmann, died eight years later, of cirrhosis at the age of 39.

So the grim catalog goes on. It impinges on each of the three World Cups — 1966, 1970 and 1974 — for which “der Kaiser” Beckenbauer played so artistically and so competitively.

It relates to ephedrine being used by members of the 1966 World Cup team. Ephedrine is one of those drugs that can be used as a decongestant, a common cold cure, but also as a stimulant.

[diego]

there have always been cheats everywhere, when havelange was around brasil got plenty of preferential treatment, and european teams were just as rotten as south american ones about taking home advantage, hence it was significant that spain was first euro team to win outside of europe, then germany first to win in south america, and now europe is ahead, whereas before it was only south american teams that won away from home. anyways, ask a hungarian if they think european fifa is fair.

argentina if anything has always been the black sheep- they famously got into a spat with euro fifa over who hosted the 38 world cup, and boycotted 38 and 54 over it (50 we also sat out, but more for political reasons beyond fifa).
Maradona was persecuted by fifa worse than suarez is now. for example, in 86 a spanish player tested positive for ephedrine (not even banned in most sports, over the counter decongestant) and was suspended for one game; in 94 maradona for the same offence was banned for 15months. Maradona got 30 months! for cocaine and ephedrine (two incidents), edgar davids got 4 months for steroids (two incidents). Most steroid users never do more than 6 months; other cocaine suspensions have been under 9 months tops. there have been players caught dealing cocaine that didnt get a 15 month suspension! to my knowledge only one other player has ever had 15 or more, Juanito from spain got 2 years then 3 for going pepe on his opponents. mutu got busted twice with cocaine and didnt get 15 months total. it was a witch hunt from the start and well, he did ask for it.
argentina has famously got away with shit, the only one that actually matters being the hand of god, but that was payback for 66. speaking of which, few remember the entire african federation boycotted 66 in protest.
in the end no one has their hands clean, except for maybe poor hungary.

[dfens]

there have always been cheats everywhere, when havelange was around brasil got plenty of preferential treatment, and european teams were just as rotten as south american ones about taking home advantage, hence it was significant that spain was first euro team to win outside of europe, then germany first to win in south america, and now europe is ahead, whereas before it was only south american teams that won away from home. anyways, ask a hungarian if they think european fifa is fair.

argentina if anything has always been the black sheep- they famously got into a spat with euro fifa over who hosted the 38 world cup, and boycotted 38 and 54 over it (50 we also sat out, but more for political reasons beyond fifa).
Maradona was persecuted by fifa worse than suarez is now. for example, in 86 a spanish player tested positive for ephedrine (not even banned in most sports, over the counter decongestant) and was suspended for one game; in 94 maradona for the same offence was banned for 15months. Maradona got 30 months! for cocaine and ephedrine (two incidents), edgar davids got 4 months for steroids (two incidents). Most steroid users never do more than 6 months; other cocaine suspensions have been under 9 months tops. there have been players caught dealing cocaine that didnt get a 15 month suspension! to my knowledge only one other player has ever had 15 or more, Juanito from spain got 2 years then 3 for going pepe on his opponents. mutu got busted twice with cocaine and didnt get 15 months total. it was a witch hunt from the start and well, he did ask for it.
argentina has famously got away with shit, the only one that actually matters being the hand of god, but that was payback for 66. speaking of which, few remember the entire african federation boycotted 66 in protest.
in the end no one has their hands clean, except for maybe poor hungary.

son that's life tbh, especially in pre 70s cheating was rampant. I think they are very hard on cocaine because it kills their image towards a very large market (kids) so that may be the reason. Also with maradroga there was the political aspect... this era is more transparent because of the internet and all, but still, qatar smh :lol

[dfens]

..........

various ancient walls of text

..........



son I'm not into archeology tbh.... 50s :lmao the fuck you expect to find? :lmao

[hater]

Even your hero b eckenbauer was an ephedrine pumped deranged zombie

Read that text tbqh. Itll open your eyes to german systemic cheating for over 50 years

[diego]

son that's life tbh, especially in pre 70s cheating was rampant. I think they are very hard on cocaine because it kills their image towards a very large market (kids) so that may be the reason. Also with maradroga there was the political aspect... this era is more transparent because of the internet and all, but still, qatar smh :lol
Politically Diego asked for it, doesn't make what they did to him right but that's why they went after him. Mutu was obviously not on Diego level but he was a lower tier star on big teams busted twice for cocaine and didn't get half the suspension Maradona did, but of course he didn't call out the Vatican, fifa exec corruption, and Western capitalist imperialism while eliminating the rich and powerful (juve, Milan, Germany, Brasil, Italy)

[140]

son that's life tbh, especially in pre 70s cheating was rampant. I think they are very hard on cocaine because it kills their image towards a very large market (kids) so that may be the reason. Also with maradroga there was the political aspect... this era is more transparent because of the internet and all, but still, qatar smh :lol
tbf the Qatar situation is probably more corrupt and wrong than all the previous WC combined :lol niggas took it to a whole new level there tbh

[dfens]

Even your hero b eckenbauer was an ephedrine pumped deranged zombie

Read that text tbqh. Itll open your eyes to german systemic cheating for over 50 years

yes, everybody knows. so? weren't they ALL like this? what's the point here son? has there ever been a winner in ANY pro sport who didn't follow state of the art methods (roids) of the day? stop bitching :lol


tbf the Qatar situation is probably more corrupt and wrong than all the previous WC combined :lol niggas took it to a whole new level there tbh

blatter's retirement fund move tbh. It's this and he's out, nigga just doesn't give a fuck at this point :lmao
tbh I wonder how the refs will be ... one thing is for sure, we're in for some serious meltdowns tbh :lol

[hater]

yes, everybody knows. so? weren't they ALL like this? what's the point here son? has there ever been a winner in ANY pro sport who didn't follow state of the art methods (roids) of the day? stop bitching :lol


you cant compare the German Systemic Steroid program to the rest of the countries and say everybody was like this.

His is like saying the CIA is just like any other intelligence organization no big deal :rolleyes

You nigas were on a different league at injecting yourselves

[apalisoc_9]

yeah that Qatar selection is just absurd. I would be more than happy if it was UAE..Bigger country made the world cup previously etc.

Qatar is literally half the size of Berlin :lol

[dfens]

you cant compare the German Systemic Steroid program to the rest of the countries and say everybody was like this.

His is like saying the CIA is just like any other intelligence organization no big deal :rolleyes

You nigas were on a different league at injecting yourselves

Son WEST germany won, who were doing what everybody else was doing. EAST germany was doing hardcore shit tbh, but they didn't win anything. Stop spinning tbh. :lol

[hater]

I was merely responding to your hypothesis that 95% of the games were won on the pitch and only 5% were due to cheating

It is obviously far more than 5% when you have studies concluding that Germany was pumping their players full of drugs before the games :lol

They even had a pet name for their fix "panzer chocolate" :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

I was merely responding to your hypothesis that 95% of the games were won on the pitch and only 5% were due to cheating

It is obviously far more than 5% when you have studies concluding that Germany was pumping their players full of drugs before the games :lol

They even had a pet name for their fix "panzer chocolate" :lmao

Every Euro win = BS officiating and Steroids tbh

[dfens]

I was merely responding to your hypothesis that 95% of the games were won on the pitch and only 5% were due to cheating

It is obviously far more than 5% when you have studies concluding that Germany was pumping their players full of drugs before the games :lol

They even had a pet name for their fix "panzer chocolate" :lmao

son let's get the facts straight. The Germany super drugs were in the east, yet the west won all the hardware. The west was using the same shit everybody else was, so they won it on equal terms with the opposition.
I'd even argue that we got the raw end of the stick with reffing, as in the most corrupt era of reffing (pre 80s) our homecourt was weak because everybody hated us for our nazi past. So lol picking on west germany, we're the CLEANEST out of all big footballing countries.

what has the coked up colombia won besides a home cooked copa america tbh? lmao you're talking the shit but can't back it up. :lmao

[dfens]

Every E̶u̶r̶o̶ win = BS officiating and Steroids tbh
this century almost every win was a Euro win my nigga :lmao
fuck that Golden State Brasil team in 2002 who mustered all the Brasil talent for 2 decades just to deny us of a ring :cry could've been much worse than 2-0 :lol no matter we fucked them raw in the ass in front of their wives in '14 :lmao

[hater]

Every Euro win = BS officiating and Steroids tbh

Not everyone but Id say 75%

[hater]

son let's get the facts straight. The Germany super drugs were in the east, yet the west won all the hardware.

Not according to the study I posted. An all german study by all german scientists

Read it. It will open your eyes to the fact the German steroid cheating sport machine was probably the best in the world.

The study itself clearly says beckenbauer was a PCP deranged mutant and even a german player died of Ghonorrea because the teams would share needles.

You cant deny the facts.

[dfens]

Not according to the study I posted. An all german study by all german scientists

Read it. It will open your eyes to the fact the German steroid cheating sport machine was probably the best in the world.

The study itself clearly says beckenbauer was a PCP deranged mutant and even a german player died of Ghonorrea because the teams would share needles.

You cant deny the facts.

fascinating tbh. have a blessed day tbh.