Name your starting 5 for the season

[RD2191]

I want a minor youth movement.

PG: DJ Murray
SG: Danny Green?
SF: Kawhi of course
PF: Davis Bertans?
C: LaMarcus Aldridge

[jermaine]

I want a minor youth movement.

PG: DJ Murray
SG: Danny Green?
SF: Kawhi of course
PF: Davis Bertans?
C: LaMarcus Aldridge

Replace Mills at pg, an that's my 2k18 starting 5.. lol

[Cloud786]

Starters:

PG: Murray
SG: Green
SF: Kawhi
PF: Gay
C: LMA


Bench:

PG: Mills
SG: Manu
SF: Kyle
PF: Bertans
C: Gasol


Third string:

Paul, Forbes, Lauvergne


IR:

Parker


D-League:

White, Blossomgame

[RD2191]

Replace Mills at pg, an that's my 2k18 starting 5.. lol

Dope. Do you win a lot? Lol

[TheGreatYacht]

"Athletic" Starting 5:
Dejounte Murray
Brandon Paul
Kawhi Leonard
Rudy Gay
Lamarcus Aldridge

"Shooters and Danny Green" unit:
Pitty Mills
Bryn Forbes
Danny Green
Davis Bertans
Pau Gasol

Garbage time krew:
Fathead White
Fathead Anderson
Joffrey Lauvergne

Hurt:
Tony Parker

Waived:
Manure Ginose

[TheGreatYacht]

Rudy Gay HAS to start. Too many stretch 4's in today's league to run with the turd towers. Draymond, Melo, Love, Anderson, etc none of those guys have size that would hurt Rudy. If they try, you let them die with it.

[superbigtime]

Dijon
Danny
Rudy
Kawhi
LMA

[RD2191]

Is Rudy healthy enough to start?

[Down Under]

I'd really consider starting Anderson at the 4. His 3 point shot has improved each season to the point where it's now above average & there's no reason he shouldn't have the confidence to let it fly.

[TheGreatYacht]

Only on Spurstalk can a guy that makes 0.2 threes a game be considered an above average 3pt shooter

[RD2191]

Who's the best 3 point shooter out of KA/Gay/Bertans?

[DeRozan m8]

The PG position is the only thing up in the air... and that's only because of injury obviously.

Expect

Green
Kawhi
Aldridge
Gasol

Basically, just expect the same old shit these days

[TimDunkem]

The PG position is the only thing up in the air... and that's only because of injury obviously.

Expect

Green
Kawhi
Aldridge
Gasol

Basically just expect the same old shit these days
Definitely how I believe the season is going to start although I expect Pop to move away from that again once Aldridge and Gasol start getting run off the court.

[RD2191]

Only on Spurstalk can a guy that makes 0.2 threes a game be considered an above average 3pt shooter


The PG position is the only thing up in the air... and that's only because of injury obviously.

Expect

Green
Kawhi
Aldridge
Gasol

Basically, just expect the same old shit these days

Gasol starting would suck.

[apalisoc_9]

I suspect Gasol would still start but they are very clearly going the stretch four route.

[TD 21]

Too big a deal is being made over who usually starts on the frontline with Aldridge. If the rotation is as cd021 and I expect it generally to be, they'll only play big for about the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd quarters. In certain match-ups, they probably won't do so at all.

[ceds]

SA girl brought up an interesting point in another thread about Forbes potentially winning the starting spot.

I think its unlikely but wouldn't be shocked if it happens.

The way i see it the we have 2 major battles going on this training camp which will determine our rotation at least for the beginning of the season.

Anderson vs Bertan's

Murray vs Forbes

[tmtcsc]

Murray shouldn't be starting anything. Yeah, I know he started some playoff games but that was a desperate, emergency situation. The guy doesn't really belong on an NBA court. He turns the ball over, can't take pressure from opposing guards and can't shoot for shit. Yeah, he had a nice game against Cleveland but that was it.

He's ALL TALK and no substance. I don't believe a word that skinny doofus says about "Putting in the work" and "wanting to be great". Just shut the fuck up and do your best to earn time on the court with real players.

[ceds]

So to start the season your going with Forbes?

I don't agree with you but props for going on record & making an early season call the he is going to suck. :toast


I got DJ...let's see what happens

[DAF86]

Same as OP.

[SAGirl]

SA girl brought up an interesting point in another thread about Forbes potentially winning the starting spot.

I think its unlikely but wouldn't be shocked if it happens.

The way i see it the we have 2 major battles going on this training camp which will determine our rotation at least for the beginning of the season.

Anderson vs Bertan's

Murray vs Forbes
What I mentioned was that Pop specifically remarked that Bryn was having a good summer so I assume he's shown in practice his summer league improvements and confidence. He may be a player Pop wants to find minutes for, specially early in the season b4 rotations get set. I think he's going to play some. He also fits better with Ginobili as an off ball guard than Murray would be and Pop may want to start Mills at times specially if no one inspires great confidence. I think a number of possibilities are being considered if Dijon isn't ready.

[ceds]

i can't see Mills starting. He knows his role on the team is set

Forbes been around the system now for around 2-3 years right? He's older and more experienced so he might be better then DJ at this very moment but Murray of course a much higher ceiling.


So because of that i say throw him into the fire early & fast track his development as much as possible until TP comes back.

If he cant handle it POP will pull him pretty quickly, its not like we don't have other options.

[apalisoc_9]

i cant wait for pops terrible rotation just to see how pissed of spurs fans get :lol

[TheDoctor]

Start of 1st quarter:
Parker (once he's back)
Green
Kawhi
LMA
Gasol
*Eventually Rudy will get the starting spot at the 4 moving LMA to the 5.

Start of the 4th quarter:
Fatty
Forbes
BP3
Bertans
Kyle

:pop: - lol

[RD2191]

i cant wait for pops terrible rotation just to see how pissed of spurs fans get :lol

:lol TBH

[dabom]

Forbes aint doing shit near the starting spot. :lol

Who actually thinks that? :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Anything Mills can do, Forbes can do better.

Microwave Patty posted up the worst stats against GSW I've ever seen a PG have as a starter. Should never happen again.

[spurs10]

I suspect Gasol would still start but they are very clearly going the stretch four route. Ditto...we will find out 10/18. Pre-season we might get a peak at a few things. I'm going 10/10 & 10/18. It'll be fun to see.
:flag:

[ceds]

Forbes aint doing shit near the starting spot. :lol

Who actually thinks that? :lmao

Well no one really...just some poster named tmtcsc so far. That said the only camp battles that are going to mean anything this year is Bertans v Kyle & DJ V Forbes

we know that Pop has not promised the starting spot to anyone yet because DJ was asked point blank in his presser yesterday.

This can only mean it will be made clear at some point during or after camp once they have been evaluated. On that fact alone you have to give him at least a slight chance (maybe 10%) to win the spot?

Like i said though in the post above, even if Forbes outplays DJ in camp i would still prefer to start Murray regardless to get him as much playing time as possible while TP is out.

He has the higher ceiling, is younger and we need to fast-track his development so we can find out if he will be a long term running mate during Kawhi's prime years.

Especially since this year is looking more and more like a throw away season....i almost wish TP was out an extra month or two then scheduled.

Also if DJ wins the starting spot i think Kawhi will have more chances to develop his point forward skills & initiate the offense.

i don't have anything to support that though. its just a gut feeling because he improves every year has ticked every other box aside from play-making at a high level. What better time to experiment with point forward then when TP is out and our starting 1 is a scorer?

[spurs10]

I also don't think who starts at the 1 is that significant. They might start Patty just as a nod. With TP coming back as early as November it is even more insignificant.

[apalisoc_9]

I also don't think who starts at the 1 is that significant. They might start Patty just as a nod. With TP coming back as early as November it is even more insignificant.

With Paul, Mills, forbes, and considering what transpired in the playoffs...kawhi is very clearly going to play more point so yeah it wouldn't matter as much.

TP's resurgence really had a lot to do with him playing offball a lot in the playoffs, maybe he can finally see the benefit of playing offball.

[ceds]

With Paul, Mills, forbes, and considering what transpired in the playoffs...kawhi is very clearly going to play more point so yeah it wouldn't matter as much.

TP's resurgence really had a lot to do with him playing offball a lot in the playoffs, maybe he can finally see the benefit of playing offball.

Agreed - This is my gut feeling also.

Allot of experimenting with Kawhi as a point forward early in the season

[007nites]

Mills
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Gasol

Unfortunately

[heyheymymy]

Mills
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Gasol

Unfortunately
Most likely

[ElNono]

PG: Manu/Patty depending on the opponent
SG: Manu/Danny depending on the opponent
SF: Kawhi
PF: Manu/Gasol depending on the opponent
C: LaMarcus Aldridge

Hopefully Poop sticks to this for the whole season, sans the few games of rest, tbh...

[LittleCriminal]

Gasol
Aldridge
Bertans
Gay
Leonard

That's my starting five..

[ceds]

TP
Green
Kawhi
Bertans (If Kyle can shoot then he starts)
LMA

[Play Boban]

I want a minor youth movement.

PG: DJ Murray
SG: Danny Green?
SF: Kawhi of course
PF: Davis Bertans?
C: LaMarcus Aldridge
:cry

[SPURt]

Pop's love for Forbes is going to surprise us all:
Forbes
Green
Kawhi
LMA
Pau

Hopefully the resulting aneurisms to Spurstalk users won't take some of our favorite posters

[RD2191]

PG: Manu/Patty depending on the opponent
SG: Manu/Danny depending on the opponent
SF: Kawhi
PF: Manu/Gasol depending on the opponent
C: LaMarcus Aldridge

Hopefully Poop sticks to this for the whole season, sans the few games of rest, tbh...

Can manu not play center?

[rudwick]

Starters
Four Smalls
Lamarcus

Bench
Four Smalls
Pau

All small-ball all the time. I hope our smalls can rebound.

[SAGirl]

With Paul, Mills, forbes, and considering what transpired in the playoffs...kawhi is very clearly going to play more point so yeah it wouldn't matter as much.

TP's resurgence really had a lot to do with him playing offball a lot in the playoffs, maybe he can finally see the benefit of playing offball.
Forbes is a much better off the ball player than Dijon. It has to be considered that Dijon can't shoot.

[look_at_g_shred]

"Athletic" Starting 5:
Dejounte Murray
Brandon Paul
Kawhi Leonard
Rudy Gay
Lamarcus Aldridge

"Shooters and Danny Green" unit:
Pitty Mills
Bryn Forbes
Danny Green
Davis Bertans
Pau Gasol

Garbage time krew:
Fathead White
Fathead Anderson
Joffrey Lauvergne

Hurt:
Tony Parker

Waived:
Manure Ginose
hahah fuck :lmao

[SAGirl]

Mills
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
Gasol

Unfortunately
That's my guess too.

[SAGirl]

Pop's love for Forbes is going to surprise us all:
Forbes
Green
Kawhi
LMA
Pau

Hopefully the resulting aneurisms to Spurstalk users won't take some of our favorite posters
:lol
A good possibility too. Very underrated the fact Forbes was Pop's featured guy in SL, had a great summer and he was the only guy he mentioned to start training camp. If Kawhi is going to be handling the ball more, Forbes fits bc he's a lights out shooter. Last season he was timid shooting. I bet he's shooting with aggression right now.

[RD2191]

Forbes is a shittier version of Mills. If it's not DJ it'll be Mills.

[Chinook]

Forbes is a shittier version of Mills. If it's not DJ it'll be Mills.

Or White.

[SAGirl]

If DJ is again all talk and no substance, it's definitely open season for anyone.

[RD2191]

If DJ is again all talk and no substance, it's definitely open season for anyone.

We can't properly evaluate DJ until he gets consistent playing time. Pop needs to stop dicking around and let him play.

[SAGirl]

I don't think he will get special treatment over anybody. In fact it may be a bit of a revolving door with different guys getting opportunities through the season. That's just what I believe. He may even get the first look but others are snipping at his heels and he has to get it together. It will end up making him work harder and be better than if he's just handed minutes with no strings attached.

[Chinook]

We can't properly evaluate DJ until he gets consistent playing time. Pop needs to stop dicking around and let him play.

He does but he also doesn't. Just as he owes it to Murray to give him a real shot, he owes it to Forbes, Paul and White to give them a fair shot. DeJounte has the most upside, but when you're talking about starting for the third-seventh best team in the league, you need more than that. I happy not to see a Miller or even a Laprativolla this time, but they have three other young guards

[Brazil]

Once Parker is back

Tony
Danny
Kawhi
LMA
Gasol

[Brazil]

PG: Manu/Patty depending on the opponent
SG: Manu/Danny depending on the opponent
SF: Kawhi
PF: Manu/Gasol depending on the opponent
C: LaMarcus Aldridge

Hopefully Poop sticks to this for the whole season, sans the few games of rest, tbh...

:lol

[Chinook]

Really don't see Gasol starting. If Pop were truly planning on two bigs, he'd've picked up more legit bigs in the off-season. You can say what you want about staggering minutes, but he'd still have to change the proclivities of the offense and defense in case of rest or injury.

[rjv]

i'll post mine on october 18th

[SAGirl]

I do think he will play those two together some. I could be wrong and wouldn't mind it at all. More potential minutes for one of Kyle or Davis, both of whom I like.

I don't want to be the one to get the aneurysm when Pop does decide to play his traditional lineups. I'd love it I was wrong actually. I have become too jaded about Pop.

Also, I'd love it if Dijon was so good he put all this talk about him to rest, and there would be no contest bc he's so good that he makes it clear he's the best player among all the young guards But that would be setting myself up for disappointment and maybe putting an unrealistic expectation on his shoulders. I am expecting a more gradual improvement from him.

[dabom]

Well no one really...just some poster named tmtcsc so far. That said the only camp battles that are going to mean anything this year is Bertans v Kyle & DJ V Forbes

we know that Pop has not promised the starting spot to anyone yet because DJ was asked point blank in his presser yesterday.

This can only mean it will be made clear at some point during or after camp once they have been evaluated. On that fact alone you have to give him at least a slight chance (maybe 10%) to win the spot?

Like i said though in the post above, even if Forbes outplays DJ in camp i would still prefer to start Murray regardless to get him as much playing time as possible while TP is out.

He has the higher ceiling, is younger and we need to fast-track his development so we can find out if he will be a long term running mate during Kawhi's prime years.

Especially since this year is looking more and more like a throw away season....i almost wish TP was out an extra month or two then scheduled.

Also if DJ wins the starting spot i think Kawhi will have more chances to develop his point forward skills & initiate the offense.

i don't have anything to support that though. its just a gut feeling because he improves every year has ticked every other box aside from play-making at a high level. What better time to experiment with point forward then when TP is out and our starting 1 is a scorer?

:lol

[dabom]

Once Parker is back

Tony
Danny
Kawhi
LMA
Gasol

That sig is gonna be perfect next summer. :lol

[raybies]

Starting
DJ/ Green/ Kawhi/ Kyle/ Aldridge

Bench
Patty/ Manu/ Gay/ Bertans/ Gasol

Closing:
Patty/ Manu/ Kawhi/ Gay/ Aldridge

My defense...
I think if DJ shows he can play solid like he did in the playoffs that's enough to start him because ideally you want Mills to continue his role off the bench and playing w/ Manu and Pau, and against lesser players. You don't owe him anything after that contract tbh. He can come off the bench and be the good guy you call when the young kid isn't playing right.

Everybody wants DJ to play well. Everyone appears to be aware of his potential and talent and I think he'll get the nod imho.

As for Kyle, I just feel he's put in the time to have a real role for once and is about over due. He's next in line and should get his opportunity for all he's done, as far as being professional and just doing what he's been told. In the playoffs and for awhile he's done really well playing the small ball four and has shown to be an above average defender, and although a little gimmicky, he's got length.

I think you have to keep Pau on the bench. I really hope Pop doesn't have to learn that lesson again. LMA and Pau don't work well together and I don't want to see that to start the season again when we already know how that will end. Once again, I don't think you owe him anything after that contract. He can play whatever role Pop gives him and just be happy he's not playing for some scrub team for the mid level exception tbh.

Also if you start Pau you are guaranteeing minutes to Joff and I don't think he's next in line for minutes. For example Bertans and Kyle should have first dibs and if Pau starts one of them lose minutes.

[TD 21]

Really don't see Gasol starting. If Pop were truly planning on two bigs, he'd've picked up more legit bigs in the off-season. You can say what you want about staggering minutes, but he'd still have to change the proclivities of the offense and defense in case of rest or injury.

Not necessarily. Spurs long ago blurred the lines between a clear starting lineup and a true rotation. Ginobili and third big of the moment have always subbed in 5-7 minutes into the 1st and 3rd quarters and Mills has joined them in recent seasons.

Starting or not, Gasol's playing some next to Aldridge. It's the only way to get them enough minutes based on their abilities, to justify their contracts, as well as keep their egos in check. If it's the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd quarters, the last 6 of each or multiple shorter segments throughout the half, one way or another, it's happening.

[Chinook]

Not necessarily. Spurs long ago blurred the lines between a clear starting lineup and a true rotation. Ginobili and third big of the moment have always subbed in 5-7 minutes into the 1st and 3rd quarters and Mills has joined them in recent seasons.

Starting or not, Gasol's playing some next to Aldridge. It's the only way to get them enough minutes based on their abilities, to justify their contracts, as well as keep their egos in check. If it's the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd quarters, the last 6 of each or multiple shorter segments throughout the half, one way or another, it's happening.

They only blurred so much. Manu played starter's minutes, but had he started, guys like Green or Mills would have been hard pressed to get roles. Manu and Tony could awkwardly share the court together. That was just about adjusting their games. But had Manu started, then you'd have at best Mills and Parker together or Mills and Green. Both of those are at least unideal. In a perfect world, you can balance it perfectly. But in practice, you end up with The Turd Towers getting minutes when you could have easily kept them separate on paper.

Let's say you have Pau, LMA, Gay and Bertans as the four bigs. You start the first two, bring in Gay for Pau, Then you bring back Pau for LMA, then Bertans for Gay. That would be how it would work ideally. But you either get someone staying too late or leaving to early for whatever reason (fatigue, foul trouble, injury), and you get TTs.

[TD 21]

They only blurred so much. Manu played starter's minutes, but had he started, guys like Green or Mills would have been hard pressed to get roles. Manu and Tony could awkwardly share the court together. That was just about adjusting their games. But had Manu started, then you'd have at best Mills and Parker together or Mills and Green. Both of those are at least unideal. In a perfect world, you can balance it perfectly. But in practice, you end up with The Turd Towers getting minutes when you could have easily kept them separate on paper.

Let's say you have Pau, LMA, Gay and Bertans as the four bigs. You start the first two, bring in Gay for Pau, Then you bring back Pau for LMA, then Bertans for Gay. That would be how it would work ideally. But you either get someone staying too late or leaving to early for whatever reason (fatigue, foul trouble, injury), and you get TTs.

In practice, it might sound simple, but in reality, it's not that easy to keep them separate. Politics play a big part in professional sports (whether it would be best for the team or not, Gasol's ego is too big to accept roughly 16 mpg and his contract would look even more bloated if that were the plan) and Aldridge and Gasol sharing the court for about 12 mpg, however awkward it may be, isn't killing them against most teams and the ones it would, as I've said, we probably won't see it against.

[ceds]

That sig is gonna be perfect next summer. :lol

you're right. DJ has to start. Anything else would be a minor meltdown and i hope he gets minutes to play through his struggles instead of a quick hook if he makes some mistakes.

Forbes/paul/white starting over DJ makes no sense at all now that i have thought some more.

Someone else was talking about Forbes vs Paul and that it is very close battle. I haven't seen the latter play in games.

You need to change the 4 in your line-up to one of Anderson/Gay/Bertans

[SAGirl]

Starting
DJ/ Green/ Kawhi/ Kyle/ Aldridge

Bench
Patty/ Manu/ Gay/ Bertans/ Gasol

Closing:
Patty/ Manu/ Kawhi/ Gay/ Aldridge

My defense...
I think if DJ shows he can play solid like he did in the playoffs that's enough to start him because ideally you want Mills to continue his role off the bench and playing w/ Manu and Pau, and against lesser players. You don't owe him anything after that contract tbh. He can come off the bench and be the good guy you call when the young kid isn't playing right.

Everybody wants DJ to play well. Everyone appears to be aware of his potential and talent and I think he'll get the nod imho.

As for Kyle, I just feel he's put in the time to have a real role for once and is about over due. He's next in line and should get his opportunity for all he's done, as far as being professional and just doing what he's been told. In the playoffs and for awhile he's done really well playing the small ball four and has shown to be an above average defender, and although a little gimmicky, he's got length.

I think you have to keep Pau on the bench. I really hope Pop doesn't have to learn that lesson again. LMA and Pau don't work well together and I don't want to see that to start the season again when we already know how that will end. Once again, I don't think you owe him anything after that contract. He can play whatever role Pop gives him and just be happy he's not playing for some scrub team for the mid level exception tbh.

Also if you start Pau you are guaranteeing minutes to Joff and I don't think he's next in line for minutes. For example Bertans and Kyle should have first dibs and if Pau starts one of them lose minutes.
Really good post.
Thanks for putting in the time.
I always appreciate your contributions.
:tu

[dabom]

you're right. DJ has to start. Anything else would be a minor meltdown and i hope he gets minutes to play through his struggles instead of a quick hook if he makes some mistakes.

Forbes/paul/white starting over DJ makes no sense at all now that i have thought some more.

Someone else was talking about Forbes vs Paul and that it is very close battle. I haven't seen the latter play in games.

You need to change the 4 in your line-up to one of Anderson/Gay/Bertans

Keep it up rook.

[spurs10]

Well I guess we'll find out on 10/18. I don't think Pop is going to be afraid of hurting anyone's feelings. He's a coach not their pal. It's going to be interesting. To

[smaka]

I see many people mentioning Joffrey will only play garbage time minutes. You guys are wrong. He's better than just your average garbage time player.

[SAGirl]

I see many people mentioning Joffrey will only play garbage time minutes. You guys are wrong. He's better than just your average garbage time player.
He played well in the scrimmage and seems to have surprised everyone. He's looked good. :tu

[ElNono]

Can manu not play center?

yes

[Chinook]

I hate the idea of Gasol starting. Even if Pop wants to go to big, he should go with Lauvergne. And if Joff ends up not being starting quality, then he wasn't going to hold down a bench role either.

[SAGirl]

I hate the idea of Gasol starting. Even if Pop wants to go to big, he should go with Lauvergne. And if Joff ends up not being starting quality, then he wasn't going to hold down a bench role either.
I admit I didn't like it either, but as you know I expected it due to the teams politics (the egos and big contract handed out to Gasol). It might even have been the worst performing line-up, bc it looked like Gasol was coasting the entire game. Kawhi not playing made it so even less can be assumed other than watching the younger player's improvement. It's difficult to tell the proportion of time they will play together but the should have dominated a team with Davis and Lauvergne in their frontcourt and as you know they didn't. But again, maybe the entire thing is a tryout for the younger Spurs and the few competitions going on about playing time.

[Brazil]

That sig is gonna be perfect next summer. :lol

:lol

[Fireball]

Going with the league trend LMA, Gay, Kawhi, Danny and Murray should start.

[outmap]

1st
LMA
Gay
Kawhi
Verde
TP

2nd
Pau
Kyle
Manu
DJ
Patty

3rd
Joffrey
Bertans
Paul
Forbes
White

[wildbill2u]

My guess is that the starting rotation will change after 10 games and Pop sorts it out based on performance as units. That takes some time and minutes.

[baseline bum]

Parker
Green
Bogans
Simmons
Gasol

[LkrFan]

One without this guy:

918970928171712517

[alfahdlan]

Kawhi at shooting guard in the starting lineup

1st 5
Murray
Leonard
Gay
Aldridge
Gasol

Subs

Mills
Green
Ginobili
Anderson
Gasol

[Nathan89]

Really wish I didn't have to watch Pau in the starting lineup tbh. I want gay or ka to start at the 4. We don't really have any ideal pg but if we are play small I'd like to have shooting so I guess that means patty. Lma,kawhi, and green go without saying.

[james evans]

Popovoch is gonna keep trying the Aldridge/Gasol until it works. He wants to show the world that 2 slow bigs is gonna win him a title again in this era.

[look_at_g_shred]

Joff
LMA
Gay
Green
Murray

[SPURt]

Joff
LMA
Gay
Green
Murray
I wouldn’t mind this but we all know Pop is going to put out:

Murray
Green
KA
LMA
Pau

:bang

[DeRozan m8]

Yep....standard boring starting 5