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apalisoc_9
09-29-2017, 09:49 AM
trailer just hit..on phone now cant link.

realese date

spring for ps4 xbox

pc realese is on..

:lmao

baseline bum
09-29-2017, 10:47 AM
trailer just hit..on phone now cant link.

realese date

spring for ps4 xbox

pc realese is on..

:lmao

It'll almost certainly get a PC release. The last one didn't because it was a huge mess using a custom kludge of two GTA engines that they barely got working on 360 (remember how shitty the PS3 version was?). So a PC port would have been super expensive. Now with XB1/PS4 so close to being PCs it's hard to see them not able to get a PC port out. Rockstar makes huge money off GTA Online on PC so no way they're going to pass up the chance to print more money with RDR2 online.

apalisoc_9
09-29-2017, 11:39 AM
its crazy but this is rockstor first real next gen game..no?

i mean gta5 was very clearly made for both this gen and last.

Xevious
09-29-2017, 02:07 PM
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DJR210
09-29-2017, 04:54 PM
Looking forward to RDR2 online tbh.. GTA V Online still getting better

leemajors
09-29-2017, 11:02 PM
as if there aren't a million things to play on PC. have fun with your shitty controller peasant

Reck
09-30-2017, 07:52 AM
have fun with your shitty controller peasant

:lol

DJR210
09-30-2017, 12:22 PM
as if there aren't a million things to play on PC. have fun with your shitty controller peasant

:lol

Xevious
05-02-2018, 07:22 PM
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Chris
05-02-2018, 07:38 PM
Hope it doesn't get delayed...Going to be hard to replicate the charm of the original RDR imo. The Zombie "DLC" (sold as an individual game) was pretty cool, I hope they can re-create that as well.

baseline bum
05-02-2018, 07:49 PM
Hope it doesn't get delayed...Going to be hard to replicate the charm of the original RDR imo. The Zombie "DLC" (sold as an individual game) was pretty cool, I hope they can re-create that as well.

I can live with delays on Rockstar games, because other than GTA IV, they have always delivered great games.

Chris
05-02-2018, 07:54 PM
I can live with delays on Rockstar games, because other than GTA IV, they have always delivered great games.

Last GTA I played was 3 on PC :lol

I spent a lot of time on 1 and 2 as well. Got to love that top down fast paced format.

Bynumite
05-03-2018, 03:20 AM
Hope they really expand on the side activities. As good as the story was, to me the best part of RDR 1 was camping in the wild, hunting, looking for treasure, doing bounties and shit.

Not getting my hopes up for Undead Nightmare 2 though, seeing as Rockstar scrapped any story DLC for GTA V in favor of GTA Online.

Xevious
05-03-2018, 07:28 AM
Hope they really expand on the side activities. As good as the story was, to me the best part of RDR 1 was camping in the wild, hunting, looking for treasure, doing bounties and shit.
Agreed, plus all the little random encounters and shit. It felt like a living, breathing world.

IronMexican
05-03-2018, 07:59 AM
I just can't wait for it all tbh

I love Gta online but fell out of the loop. And I will be got damned if anyone makes fun of me for buying a shark card. I bought one for 20 bucks because I fucking work close to 90 Hours a week sometimes.

Reck
08-09-2018, 01:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7nLnWhaCk8

Take mah moneey

Bynumite
08-09-2018, 05:28 PM
This game looks insane wtf :wow




https://i.imgur.com/7tLbu10.gif
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnkemptDefiantAnemone-mobile.mp4

baseline bum
08-09-2018, 06:01 PM
Fucking October 26th is going to take forever to get here. I'm already dying waiting for August 28th to get Yakuza Kiwami 2. I'm tempted to grab Shenmue I & II on the 21st too since Yakuza is supposed to be a spiritual successor to those two games.

Reck
08-09-2018, 06:36 PM
Fucking October 26th is going to take forever to get here. I'm already dying waiting for August 28th to get Yakuza Kiwami 2. I'm tempted to grab Shenmue I & II on the 21st too since Yakuza is supposed to be a spiritual successor to those two games.

Tbh, october 26 is fast for me. The date came out of nowhere for me.

I wasn't paying much attention to RDR2. I like when elite games sneak up on me. The wait is not so bad.

Chris
08-09-2018, 08:13 PM
That's what 4k looks like :tu

DJR210
08-09-2018, 10:06 PM
4K at low settings :tu

Can't wait for the definitive edition.. baseline bum is the 1180 supposed to be worth a fuck or nah?

baseline bum
08-09-2018, 11:19 PM
4K at low settings :tu

Can't wait for the definitive edition.. baseline bum is the 1180 supposed to be worth a fuck or nah?

Considering one of the rumors is the 120W card (eg the 1160) has a $499 MSRP, so I'm guessing no. Sounds like Nvidia might be jacking prices way up like they did with the 600 series where they made the 560 Ti equivalent (eg the 680) a $500 card.

baseline bum
08-09-2018, 11:21 PM
Also guessing the PS4 Pro will be upscaled 1440p at 30 fps while base PS4 will be 1080p@30 fps. No way any console is running that game at 4k.

baseline bum
08-09-2018, 11:24 PM
Of course if Rockstar San Diego just hacks it together like they did the first game expect 900p@30 fps (with lots of frame drops into the 20s) on the base PS4 and 1080p@30 fps on the PS4 Pro, with 720p30fps on the ShitBox.

baseline bum
08-09-2018, 11:31 PM
nm

DJR210
08-10-2018, 04:02 PM
Considering one of the rumors is the 120W card (eg the 1160) has a $499 MSRP, so I'm guessing no. Sounds like Nvidia might be jacking prices way up like they did with the 600 series where they made the 560 Ti equivalent (eg the 680) a $500 card.

That's sad if true.. This has been a long wait from the 1000 cards (not that it's a bad thing) but to have this huge gap and minimal gains is garbage. Either way I'm saving up for a new build, so I'm fine with using my 1060 in a new motherboard/processor/RAM/SSD PC as my only issues I experience from running my games exactly how I want to is all CPU based, hitting 100% usage in certain titles with a lot of AI or with a ton of high res textures being loaded in quicker than I assume my standard HDD can send out.

baseline bum
08-10-2018, 06:25 PM
That's sad if true.. This has been a long wait from the 1000 cards (not that it's a bad thing) but to have this huge gap and minimal gains is garbage. Either way I'm saving up for a new build, so I'm fine with using my 1060 in a new motherboard/processor/RAM/SSD PC as my only issues I experience from running my games exactly how I want to is all CPU based, hitting 100% usage in certain titles with a lot of AI or with a ton of high res textures being loaded in quicker than I assume my standard HDD can send out.

Man I would not do a new build until at least late 2020 when the new consoles are either out or there is rock solid information about what kind of cpus they'll be using. Most games are always going to be programmed towards the lowest common denominator, so it makes sense to see what that is first to be able to properly exploit those console weaknesses in your build. Plus RAM prices are ridiculous right now and Intel is still having hell getting to 10 nm. It's about the worst possible time to do a new build IMO. Though one ray of hope at least is Samsung is claiming they're able to produce 1TB, 2TB, and 4TB QLC SSDs cheaply enough that they'll be consumer level SSDs and not enthusiast level products when they launch late this year.

DJR210
08-10-2018, 07:23 PM
Man I would not do a new build until at least late 2020 when the new consoles are either out or there is rock solid information about what kind of cpus they'll be using. Most games are always going to be programmed towards the lowest common denominator, so it makes sense to see what that is first to be able to properly exploit those console weaknesses in your build. Plus RAM prices are ridiculous right now and Intel is still having hell getting to 10 nm. It's about the worst possible time to do a new build IMO. Though one ray of hope at least is Samsung is claiming they're able to produce 1TB, 2TB, and 4TB QLC SSDs cheaply enough that they'll be consumer level SSDs and not enthusiast level products when they launch late this year.

I feel like at any point in time one could argue that they should wait because of the "next big advancement" though.. I'm still using a fucking 3570k 6 years later, it's time tbh. I got games stuttering with a G-Sync monitor ffs

baseline bum
08-10-2018, 08:21 PM
I feel like at any point in time one could argue that they should wait because of the "next big advancement" though.. I'm still using a fucking 3570k 6 years later, it's time tbh. I got games stuttering with a G-Sync monitor ffs

Well the i7-9700k is rumored to be 8 cores with no hyperthreading and rumored to use solder between the core and heatspreader like the Sandy Bridge chips that were legendary overclockers (instead of the crap thermal paste used between core and heatspreader that hugely limits overclocks in Skylake / Kaby Lake / Coffee Lake). I wouldn't buy a six core i5 without hyperthreading since there is the chance we could see octacore Ryzen with decent clockspeeds on PS5 / next XBox since they'll be on a mature 7nm node by 2020/2021 when those consoles are likely to launch. OTOH if the consoles use low clocked octacores with SMT (eg hyperthreading) and developers start targeting 16 hardware threads that 9700k might start showing the same limitations the 3570k did a couple of years into this current console gen when you saw games like Battlefield 1 running much better on i7 than i5 thanks to PS4/XB1 using crap IPC low clocked octacore cpus.

I would still wait to see what AMD's 7nm chips look like this year. Ryzen is pretty competitive with Intel unlike the FX series and maybe they can ramp up the clockspeeds on 7nm Ryzen. One of the 8 core / 16 thread R7 chips with a high clockspeed could be good insurance if AMD is able to really hike up the clockspeeds after the big node shrink.

baseline bum
08-13-2018, 10:18 PM
4K at low settings :tu

Can't wait for the definitive edition.. baseline bum is the 1180 supposed to be worth a fuck or nah?

Man this really sucks how gpu improvement is slowing to a crawl. My GTX 970 that I paid $340 for is almost four years old right now and the only reasonable upgrade is a $400 GTX 1070 that's about 60% faster. But that $340 GTX 970 in late 2014 was 120% faster than the $330 GTX 570 from four years earlier. That's almost the difference in performance between a GTX 970 and a $1200 Titan X Pascal.

Nvidia is supposed to be announcing their new gaming cards on the 20th. They just announced new Quadro cards designed for raytracing a couple of hours ago.

DJR210
08-14-2018, 03:07 AM
Man this really sucks how gpu improvement is slowing to a crawl. My GTX 970 that I paid $340 for is almost four years old right now and the only reasonable upgrade is a $400 GTX 1070 that's about 60% faster. But that $340 GTX 970 in late 2014 was 120% faster than the $330 GTX 570 from four years earlier. That's almost the difference in performance between a GTX 970 and a $1200 Titan X Pascal.

Nvidia is supposed to be announcing their new gaming cards on the 20th. They just announced new Quadro cards designed for raytracing a couple of hours ago.

I saw the reflection Star Wars demo.. looks pretty impressive

baseline bum
08-14-2018, 04:02 PM
I saw the reflection Star Wars demo.. looks pretty impressive

Nvidia with a hype video today, they better have something good coming out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ElMOiAOBI

DJR210
08-14-2018, 04:05 PM
Nvidia with a hype video today, they better have something good coming out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ElMOiAOBI

Yeah I seent that.. :lol at how people are saying "It seems that Nvidia is now focusing on gamers" - What the fuck was the focus before?

baseline bum
08-14-2018, 04:17 PM
Yeah I seent that.. :lol at how people are saying "It seems that Nvidia is now focusing on gamers" - What the fuck was the focus before?

Machine learning is the company's focus. They'll make way more money from their work on self-driving cars than they would ever get out of PC Master Race.

DJR210
08-14-2018, 04:30 PM
Machine learning is the company's focus. They'll make way more money from their work on self-driving cars than they would ever get out of PC Master Race.

Yeah I learned this last night when dude said.. "all of this, and it's only 10. Thousand. Dollars."

baseline bum
08-14-2018, 05:07 PM
Yeah I learned this last night when dude said.. "all of this, and it's only 10. Thousand. Dollars."

Yeah I can't remember ever seeing 800mm^2 dies until they started getting into machine learning.

baseline bum
08-15-2018, 10:45 AM
Yeah I learned this last night when dude said.. "all of this, and it's only 10. Thousand. Dollars."

Fuck man, one of the new leaks I'm seeing says GTX 2060 will be coming in November and will be 7% slower than GTX 1070. So since the GTX 1070 is 58% faster than the 970 in techpowerup's testsuite of games at 1440p that makes the GTX 2060 about 47% faster than the GTX 970 in that testsuite. And it's supposed to sell for somewhere between $200 to $300. I'm guessing $300, why would they drop price from the 1060? At that price fuck that shit, $300 for a 47% gain in performance four years after I bought my 970 for $340. When I bought my 970 it was 120% faster than the four year old 570 that launched at $330. I guess I'm not upgrading this gen either unless my 970 dies.

baseline bum
08-17-2018, 09:25 PM
4K at low settings :tu

Can't wait for the definitive edition.. baseline bum is the 1180 supposed to be worth a fuck or nah?


Allegedly PNG's website had this up earlier today:

https://image.ibb.co/eW2uoK/unknown.png

https://image.ibb.co/feW9Ne/unknown2.png

https://image.ibb.co/g5A3he/unknown3.png

https://image.ibb.co/hMUDhe/pny1.png

DJR210
08-17-2018, 10:13 PM
Allegedly PNG's website had this up earlier today:

https://image.ibb.co/eW2uoK/unknown.png

https://image.ibb.co/feW9Ne/unknown2.png

https://image.ibb.co/g5A3he/unknown3.png

https://image.ibb.co/hMUDhe/pny1.png

All that shit looks great.. but all I wanna know is.. Can the god damn card finally push 4K locked at 60 FPS..

baseline bum
08-17-2018, 10:30 PM
All that shit looks great.. but all I wanna know is.. Can the god damn card finally push 4K locked at 60 FPS..

It's supposed to beat out the Titan V, but no matter how powerful a card you get Ubisoft will put out games that aren't that impressive graphically but will eat through your card. For example, Ghost Recon Wildlands which couldn't run 1080p60 on a fucking 1070.

DJR210
08-17-2018, 10:42 PM
It's supposed to beat out the Titan V, but no matter how powerful a card you get Ubisoft will put out games that aren't that impressive graphically but will eat through your card. For example, Ghost Recon Wildlands which couldn't run 1080p60 on a fucking 1070.

Anything less than 60 FPS @ 4K is a fail at this point IMO. 4K has been around long enough for the technology to have caught up by now.. I'm looking forward to seeing some benchmarks

baseline bum
08-17-2018, 10:43 PM
Anything less than 60 FPS @ 4K is a fail at this point IMO. 4K has been around long enough for the technology to have caught up by now.. I'm looking forward to seeing some benchmarks

1080 Ti can already play most games 4k60 at high settings.

DJR210
08-17-2018, 10:45 PM
1080 Ti can already play most games 4k60 at high settings.

Yeah I was gonna edit the previous post to include "ultra settings" - we shouldn't be compromising anymore even though high isn't far off

baseline bum
08-17-2018, 10:56 PM
Yeah I was gonna edit the previous post to include "ultra settings" - we shouldn't be compromising anymore even though high isn't far off

Ultra settings are dumb IMO. Most of the time they're indistinguishable from high and give massive performance hits. Every once in a while I'll find an ultra setting that I think is really worth it, like HBAO+ in The Witcher 3 which really makes all the fire and lighting from it come alive in the world. I especially would never use ultra settings if I had a system like yours with GSync. 60 fps at ultra or 100 fps at high? Give me high every time then.

Damn I really hope the 2060 is something impressive for $300 or less, as lately I have been holding off on PC gaming since I'm in the mindset that I'll probably upgrade this year and I want to play Final Fantasy XV and AC Origins without frame drops. 2018 has been rough on the GTX 970 and my card doesn't handle an overclock as well as it did a couple of years ago.

baseline bum
08-20-2018, 12:36 PM
Yeah I learned this last night when dude said.. "all of this, and it's only 10. Thousand. Dollars."

The 2080 Ti is $1200. The 2080 is $800. The 2070 is $600. So in seven years the GTX 570 equivalent (eg cut down high end chip) has gone from $330 to $1200. Fuck PC gaming now. These prices are ridiculous.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/20-series/

DJR210
08-20-2018, 03:36 PM
The 2080 Ti is $1200. The 2080 is $800. The 2070 is $600. So in seven years the GTX 570 equivalent (eg cut down high end chip) has gone from $330 to $1200. Fuck PC gaming now. These prices are ridiculous.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/20-series/

Yeah that's bullshit pricing. Cyber Monday can't even save that

baseline bum
08-20-2018, 03:48 PM
ElNono man, what do you think about these ray tracing gpus? This isn't something that's actually doable in games right now is it? Are prices being sent through the roof just so we can take pretty screenshots in Ansel?

ElNono
08-20-2018, 06:41 PM
Honestly, I haven't even caught up with that yet. I read that they introduced some of that at GDC, but I suppose there's gotta be some light bounce limits/settings, etc. Things like ambient occlusions are probably still cheaper with shadowmaps. This is probably going to be cool for material reflections type of stuff.

baseline bum
08-21-2018, 04:51 PM
Yeah that's bullshit pricing. Cyber Monday can't even save that

So with raytracing on this $1200 RTX 2080 Ti is a fucking 1080p30 gpu :lmao

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafikkarten-Grafikkarte-97980/Videos/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-Performance-in-Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-1263244/

Xevious
10-01-2018, 10:55 PM
Almost here, fuckers!

aHH4pobfuqM

baseline bum
10-01-2018, 11:16 PM
Almost here, fuckers!

aHH4pobfuqM

Man I don't even watch the trailers after the original one a couple of years ago. I want everything to be a surprise on the 26th.

Xevious
10-01-2018, 11:47 PM
Yeah, I'm not that patient.

Bynumite
10-02-2018, 05:30 PM
Still remember a random faggot online spoiled John's fate in RDR 1 for me in a comment section. So i'm trying to stay a bit in the dark as well this time.

Tbh I just wanna camp out in the woods and spend hours hunting wildlife. Game has about 200 animal species this time.

:worthy: Rockstar :worthy:

baseline bum
10-21-2018, 08:32 PM
Y'all buying RDR2 physical or digital? Normally I like physical editions of really big games like this but since it's two blu ray discs I think I'll just get it digital and preload. PSN also has a deal where you get a $15 credit next month if you buy two of the games from this list:

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/grid/STORE-MSF77008-COUNT2LAUNCHLP/1

Probably won't use it though since I'll likely wait for Spiderman to hit $30 on Black Friday before buying.

baseline bum
10-24-2018, 10:18 PM
Yeah, I'm not that patient.

Reviews go up at 6:01 CST tomorrow morning.

baseline bum
10-25-2018, 12:45 PM
Damn XBox One version of the game is the fourth highest rated game ever on metacritic. PS4 version is tenth. Strange though since the XBox One non X version is by far the worst version of the game (though XBox One X is by far the best).

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered?sort=desc

Reck
10-25-2018, 01:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSe5kwxs68I

This game looks sharp.

baseline bum
10-25-2018, 06:39 PM
Will be getting my copy at 9PM. And then not playing it because I have a couple of hours left in Yakuza Kiwami 2. :lol

Leetonidas
10-25-2018, 10:32 PM
Currently installing tbh

baseline bum
10-25-2018, 11:19 PM
Currently installing tbh

Same here. Never seen a two hour install on a PS4 game. :lol

baseline bum
10-25-2018, 11:20 PM
At least the Day 1 patch is only 3GB. I was thinking it would be 50GB like you see in COD games.

Xevious
10-26-2018, 08:54 AM
Guess I'll go take a shit, mow the lawn, then grab some breakfast while this installs.

Xevious
10-26-2018, 10:23 AM
Goddamn I didn't realize I had to switch discs halfway through. :lol

Reck
10-26-2018, 11:04 AM
Goddamn I didn't realize I had to switch discs halfway through. :lol

Wait...they had to make two disc to pack all the content in? Now i'm interested!

baseline bum
10-26-2018, 11:34 AM
Wait...they had to make two disc to pack all the content in? Now i'm interested!

Yeah, it takes up 98GB on my PS4 Slim. Kind of annoying they make everyone install the high res textures from the Pro version.

redzero
10-26-2018, 12:54 PM
Should I get a PS4 Pro just to play this? I had to delete GTA V from my PS4 (why do I have to do this shit with game that is on disc), just so I can install Spider-Man. Why do I have to do this shit with games I have physical copies of? And God knows how much data FFXV is taking up on my harddrive.

baseline bum
10-26-2018, 01:50 PM
Should I get a PS4 Pro just to play this?

If you're buying a system specifically for this game the XBox One X is the one to get since it maintains framerate much better than any of the other systems it's on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTIPXwcDGQ


I had to delete GTA V from my PS4 (why do I have to do this shit with game that is on disc), just so I can install Spider-Man. Why do I have to do this shit with games I have physical copies of? And God knows how much data FFXV is taking up on my harddrive.

You'd rather have huge loading times every time you go to a new sector of the map to read off the bluray? Hard drive space is cheap. I'd much rather buy a bigger drive than deal with the blu-ray for anything other than installation.

Trainwreck2100
10-26-2018, 01:53 PM
Should I get a PS4 Pro just to play this? I had to delete GTA V from my PS4 (why do I have to do this shit with game that is on disc), just so I can install Spider-Man. Why do I have to do this shit with games I have physical copies of? And God knows how much data FFXV is taking up on my harddrive.

Till Sunday gamestop is running a deal where if you trade in a xbox one for a one x you get 200. They also have a deal where if you buy a one x and rdr 2 you get 100 off. Makes the goal purchase 240

baseline bum
10-26-2018, 02:05 PM
Till Sunday gamestop is running a deal where if you trade in a xbox one for a one x you get 200. They also have a deal where if you buy a one x and rdr 2 you get 100 off. Makes the goal purchase 240

That deal is fucking crazy since those XBox One X RDR2 bundles also come with either NBA 2k19 or PUBG.

Reck
10-26-2018, 02:21 PM
If you're buying a system specifically for this game the XBox One X is the one to get since it maintains framerate much better than any of the other systems it's on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTIPXwcDGQ



You'd rather have huge loading times every time you go to a new sector of the map to read off the bluray? Hard drive space is cheap. I'd much rather buy a bigger drive than deal with the blu-ray for anything other than installation.

Could easily be fixed via a patch later.

I wouldn't get a console for one game and let that console die of dust a few weeks later.

Trainwreck2100
10-26-2018, 02:38 PM
That deal is fucking crazy since those XBox One X RDR2 bundles also come with either NBA 2k19 or PUBG.

Can't be a bundle for the deal to work you have to buy the game and system separately. Some guys are buying the system immediately returning it using the credit to buy the fallout 76 version.

redzero
10-26-2018, 05:56 PM
I don't want to buy an XBOX just for RDR. If I still cared about Halo and Gears of War, maybe, but I could play Halo on PC at this point.

Joseph Kony
10-26-2018, 08:21 PM
i wish i had seen that deal for the xbox one x before i preordered this for the PS. i've been wanting to get an xbone x to replace the xbone s i have because its got wifi issues. fuck me :pctoss

baseline bum
10-26-2018, 09:43 PM
Pretty badass intro to this game. I love starting in the mountains, especially since it was the last area you could unlock in the first game.

Reck
10-26-2018, 10:09 PM
I dont think I have seen a game looks this crisp and so vibrant.

Xevious
10-27-2018, 12:05 PM
Pretty badass intro to this game. I love starting in the mountains, especially since it was the last area you could unlock in the first game.
I also like the Clint Eastwood-esque first shot of Morgan, from under the hat.

I'm only early on in the Valentine area and the game seems overwhelmingly big in every way. There's so much to manage and keep track of. Hunting is difficult, mostly because you burn through stamina pulling back your bow string.

There's also a ton of shit that can happen at any time. There's one mission in Valentine where Morgan chases down a dude for information. Since your horse is not present, you end up jumping on a random hitched horse. After the encounter was over. I went back into town and I thought I'd just return the horse where I got it from. I dismounted and started to lead the horse and some dude came up running saying I'd stolen his horse and started a fistfight with me. I knocked his ass out, which lead other people to run and report the fight to the sheriff. Even then I thought I'd do the honorable thing and just present myself to the lawman peacefully, to which he just told me to fuck off or something and that was that. I just like the cause and effect of every situation and at any point you can ramp shit up or avoid it altogether.

Leetonidas
10-27-2018, 03:59 PM
The intro/tutorial of this game is way too long imo

Xevious
10-27-2018, 04:04 PM
The intro/tutorial of this game is way too long imo
Try Persona 5.

baseline bum
10-27-2018, 04:55 PM
Try Persona 5.

:lol

baseline bum
10-27-2018, 07:33 PM
edit nm this shit is getting really good

ColinB
10-27-2018, 08:12 PM
Can't be a bundle for the deal to work you have to buy the game and system separately. Some guys are buying the system immediately returning it using the credit to buy the fallout 76 version.

Went to Gamestop and traded a day 1 Xbox One and they offered any bundle I wanted. Went with the Fallout bundle.

Trainwreck2100
10-27-2018, 09:44 PM
Went to Gamestop and traded a day 1 Xbox One and they offered any bundle I wanted. Went with the Fallout bundle.

I'm talking about the RDR XB1 deal, where you get another 100 off

Bynumite
10-27-2018, 10:37 PM
In a time of yearly releases with 8 hour storylines, there's people actually complaining the story in RDR2 is too long, the world too big with too much shit to do :lmao

ColinB
10-27-2018, 11:30 PM
I'm talking about the RDR XB1 deal, where you get another 100 off

So am I. Employee gave me the option of any bundle without me even asking if I could do a different one. (basic, PUBG, 2k, Fallout). I traded in my OG and bought Red Dead in the same transaction. No return involved. Great deal.

baseline bum
10-28-2018, 08:04 PM
Aw fucking shit. I got stuck in a corner and I can't get my teammates to move. I have to fucking reload a save because I walked into the corner of my house and then someone walked up behind me and blocked me in.

https://image.ibb.co/jnMNJA/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-20181028195148.jpg

JakeCuenca
10-28-2018, 08:21 PM
Damn XBox One version of the game is the fourth highest rated game ever on metacritic. PS4 version is tenth. Strange though since the XBox One non X version is by far the worst version of the game (though XBox One X is by far the best).

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered?sort=desc

Xbox one version always score better. Its a product of limited games.

JakeCuenca
10-28-2018, 08:24 PM
Try Persona 5.

:lmao.

I know persona 5 is super flawed but its honestly one of the best games I ever played.

I say the redundancy in dialouge, the.extremely slow pace, the cringe etc are all probably japanese game culture.

Lol when morgana has to tell.me.something i already know for the 100th time :lol

Xevious
10-28-2018, 11:09 PM
Sonovabitch nothing pisses me off more than getting ambushed and killed (along with my horse) while I'm carrying a carcass I worked hard to track and get a clean kill on. :lol

DJR210
10-29-2018, 05:16 PM
In a time of yearly releases with 8 hour storylines, there's people actually complaining the story in RDR2 is too long, the world too big with too much shit to do :lmao

Same retards complaining AC Odyssey has too much to do.. these are cell phone game playing idiots complaining about the full scale experience

Reck
10-29-2018, 05:49 PM
Same retards complaining AC Odyssey has too much to do.. these are cell phone game playing idiots complaining about the full scale experience

Lazy cucks who shell out real money because they dont want to spend a couple of hours earning in-game purchase so they buy 100s of dollars worth of skills because they dont want to bother.

They should be set with Devil May Cry 5. Pay 8 thousand dollars for everything up front. :lol

Xevious
10-29-2018, 09:06 PM
Lol there's at least a couple easter eggs where you can see UFOs. Some are guessing that it's hinting at a possible Cowboys and Aliens type DLC.

baseline bum
10-30-2018, 12:03 AM
I have to say this game desperately needs to come out on PC. I don't even care about the graphics and framerate, RDR2 really feels like it's made for mouse and keyboard. Mouse and keyboard would make the shootouts so much better than choosing from either magnetic aiming or slow manual thumbstick aiming. It feels like a 9/10 for me on PS4 but assuming a good port, this game will be an absolutely flawless 10/10 on PC. It's one of the rare third person games that will be better on mouse and keyboard (though you can also play in first person mode like GTA V if you want).

DJR210
10-30-2018, 09:41 AM
I have to say this game desperately needs to come out on PC. I don't even care about the graphics and framerate, RDR2 really feels like it's made for mouse and keyboard. Mouse and keyboard would make the shootouts so much better than choosing from either magnetic aiming or slow manual thumbstick aiming. It feels like a 9/10 for me on PS4 but assuming a good port, this game will be an absolutely flawless 10/10 on PC. It's one of the rare third person games that will be better on mouse and keyboard (though you can also play in first person mode like GTA V if you want).

They found some more hints to the PC version in the code for the companion app.. stuff mentioning Oculus and graphics settings

Joseph Kony
10-30-2018, 08:42 PM
Lazy cucks who shell out real money because they dont want to spend a couple of hours earning in-game purchase so they buy 100s of dollars worth of skills because they dont want to bother.

They should be set with Devil May Cry 5. Pay 8 thousand dollars for everything up front. :lol

that 8g bundle is mostly because it includes a high quality genuine leather replica of dante's jacket tbh

baseline bum
10-31-2018, 09:36 PM
They found some more hints to the PC version in the code for the companion app.. stuff mentioning Oculus and graphics settings

Now if only there will be a reasonable upgrade from my GTX 970 for ~$300 by 2021.

DJR210
10-31-2018, 10:44 PM
Now if only there will be a reasonable upgrade from my GTX 970 for ~$300 by 2021.

:lol

Xevious
11-06-2018, 09:04 PM
Damn there's an annoying bug that causes guns to disappear from your inventory/horse. Seems to only happen of you hit "restart from checkpoint" during story missions when you fail. I've lost a schofield and a semiauto shotgun, the former I spent some money modifying. Hopefully that shit gets patched soon.

Chris
11-14-2018, 06:36 PM
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baseline bum
11-30-2018, 01:23 AM
:rollin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUPa85hr08Q

DMC
12-09-2018, 07:54 PM
If it doesn't come out on PC I doubt I ever play it. Sounds cool.

RD2191
12-17-2018, 05:48 PM
Man, I bought a console specifically to play this game and damn, what a fucking letdown. This game is boring as shit. Impressive world and graphics but other than that the world feels boring and empty. Boring and repetitive missions. Zero creativity. Wow. What a shitfest.

apalisoc_9
12-17-2018, 06:01 PM
Man, I bought a console specifically to play this game and damn, what a fucking letdown. This game is boring as shit. Impressive world and graphics but other than that the world feels boring and empty. Boring and repetitive missions. Zero creativity. Wow. What a shitfest.

Just play GOW. GOAT Combat.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 06:25 PM
was about to start playing RDR2 tonight (fortunately i had the foresight to install this shit over a week ago, took forever :lol)... i've been operating under the assumption that it's going to be impossible to disappoint. the reviews/acclaim its gotten are off the charts, and rockstar has been a reliable producer of great content.

i've never played the predecessor games (red dead revolver/redemption), but from what i've seen its the same general game design as the GTA series and they use the same engine. hopefully RD2191 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690) is just being a faggot as usual

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 06:29 PM
and rd i mean that with all due respect my dude :toast

RD2191
12-17-2018, 06:31 PM
was about to start playing RDR2 tonight (fortunately i had the foresight to install this shit over a week ago, took forever :lol)... i've been operating under the assumption that it's going to be impossible to disappoint. the reviews/acclaim its gotten are off the charts, and rockstar has been a reliable producer of great content.

i've never played the predecessor games (red dead revolver/redemption), but from what i've seen its the same general game design as the GTA series and they use the same engine. hopefully RD2191 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690) is just being a faggot as usual

It's trash bro. Just like your post tbh

Xevious
12-17-2018, 06:32 PM
was about to start playing RDR2 tonight (fortunately i had the foresight to install this shit over a week ago, took forever :lol)... i've been operating under the assumption that it's going to be impossible to disappoint. the reviews/acclaim its gotten are off the charts, and rockstar has been a reliable producer of great content.

i've never played the predecessor games (red dead revolver/redemption), but from what i've seen its the same general game design as the GTA series and they use the same engine. hopefully RD2191 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690) is just being a faggot as usual
He is. The game is cram packed with content and has a dynamic world with tons of random shit happening at all times. It's anything but boring.

The only negative thing I can think of is that the shooting itself takes a little playing with to get used to (same as any Rockstar game). And the online play (which I won't do) is crap from what I hear.

RD2191
12-17-2018, 06:34 PM
Check the USER reviews on metacritic tbh. Don't fall for the hype. This is more of an interactive movie than a game imo tbh FWIW

RD2191
12-17-2018, 06:37 PM
Just play GOW. GOAT Combat.

I'll probably pick it up this weekend tbh

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 06:41 PM
Check the USER reviews on metacritic tbh. Don't fall for the hype. This is more of an interactive movie than a game imo tbh FWIW
brah thats some peanut butter level analysis

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 06:43 PM
Just play GOW. GOAT Combat.
wonder what's higher... your love for this game, bb's love for bloodborne, or SFS's love for beats

i have god of war and plan to play it next after RDR2. game looks great from the footage i've seen. i was a big fan of the god of war series before this release. while those were pretty much button-mashers, they were incredibly fun.

read that you think the combat in this game is next level advanced though. is it really that different than the original trilogy (i dont count spinoffs tbh)? i get that you get the leviathon axe instead of the blades of chaos or whatever, but is it really that nuanced and less mashy?

RD2191
12-17-2018, 06:44 PM
brah thats some peanut butter level analysis

Just don't say I didn't warn you. I wanted to love this game, I really did. I bought a PS3 just to play RDR and I bought a PS4 just to play RDR2, that'll show you how much I wanted to love this game. Trust me, you'll more than likely be disappointed.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 06:47 PM
Just don't say I didn't warn you. I wanted to love this game, I really did. I bought a PS3 just to play RDR and I bought a PS4 just to play RDR2, that'll show you how much I wanted to love this game. Trust me, you'll more than likely be disappointed.
that sucks to hear man. but i'd never buy a console for a single game :lol

theres a ton of good content that you can get for cheap on either of those consoles. i gotta thank bb for giving me a ton of referrals when i was leaning towards buying a ps4. got a lot of ridiculous deals during the black friday stuff

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 06:52 PM
I'll probably pick it up this weekend tbh

Get it today or tomorrow while it's on sale for $30 at Gamestop tbh

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 06:54 PM
that sucks to hear man. but i'd never buy a console for a single game :lol


LOL I bought a Switch just for Mario Odyssey. Thankfully it's an amazing game. What's really funny is the main reason I bought a PS4 in 2016 was the God of War intro from E3 2016. :lol

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 06:55 PM
Just don't say I didn't warn you. I wanted to love this game, I really did. I bought a PS3 just to play RDR and I bought a PS4 just to play RDR2, that'll show you how much I wanted to love this game. Trust me, you'll more than likely be disappointed.

Bloodborne Complete Edition bro. Minimal cutscenes, all action.

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA00900_00-BLOODBORNECOMPLE

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:03 PM
was about to start playing RDR2 tonight (fortunately i had the foresight to install this shit over a week ago, took forever :lol)... i've been operating under the assumption that it's going to be impossible to disappoint. the reviews/acclaim its gotten are off the charts, and rockstar has been a reliable producer of great content.

i've never played the predecessor games (red dead revolver/redemption), but from what i've seen its the same general game design as the GTA series and they use the same engine. hopefully RD2191 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690) is just being a faggot as usual

You have a PS3 right? Then RDR1 is a must buy. Plus RDR2 is a prequel to RDR1 so you can play RDR1 after.

RD2191
12-17-2018, 07:06 PM
Get it today or tomorrow while it's on sale for $30 at Gamestop tbh

Dang, thanks for the heads up.

RD2191
12-17-2018, 07:09 PM
that sucks to hear man. but i'd never buy a console for a single game :lol

theres a ton of good content that you can get for cheap on either of those consoles. i gotta thank bb for giving me a ton of referrals when i was leaning towards buying a ps4. got a lot of ridiculous deals during the black friday stuff

Yeah, BB is coming in clutch with the deals. :lol and tbh I have a mild obsession with the American Old West/history so to me this game was supposed to be worth it, don't get me wrong, the game is okay and the world is nice to look at but there's just not much of a GAME there imo.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:10 PM
You have a PS3 right? Then RDR1 is a must buy. Plus RDR2 is a prequel to RDR1 so you can play RDR1 after.
So I’ve heard. I also never got around to finishing new vegas before i got the PS4 so i have reason enough to go back to the ps3 eventually. But my setup kinda sucks so I’d literally have to dc my PS4 which feels like blasphemy :lol

when im done with my current library I’ll probably do that. Can likely find rdr pretty cheap on amazon or Walmart or some shit.

But still gotta play rdr2, gow, horizon, Arkham city, and wana go back and play last of us on grounded and grounded+

So could be a while

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:11 PM
Dang, thanks for the heads up.

Also check the Playstation Store. Not for God of War (it's $40 there right now) but because they have a big Christmas sale going. They should be adding some new games tomorrow too by about 11AM (new sales / updates to long term sales always happen on Tuesday mornings). Bloodborne Complete Edition for $14 is probably the best deal right now. Witcher 3 Complete Edition for $20 is another must buy.

RD2191
12-17-2018, 07:11 PM
Bloodborne Complete Edition bro. Minimal cutscenes, all action.

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA00900_00-BLOODBORNECOMPLE

I'll have to check it out. Have you played zelda botw on switch yet? I'm thinking of picking one up but I don't want to be let down like I was with RedDead 2. :lol

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:16 PM
My fear with bloodborne is that from what I’ve read, the learning curve can be so high that you’re really not enjoying the first several hours. And while I’m usually someone that likes playing games on hard difficulties I’ve never really played that genre before, so it’s intimidating :lol

sometimes difficulty is well done and other times it’s just a chore

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:19 PM
I'll have to check it out. Have you played zelda botw on switch yet? I'm thinking of picking one up but I don't want to be let down like I was with RedDead 2. :lol

BOTW is good but I think it's the most overrated game since GTA IV (another game that got 10/10 reviews everywhere). Though I thought GTA IV was a complete piece of shit. You'll like BOTW if you really enjoy exploration in open world games. If you like dungeons and combat they're really lacking in BOTW. There are only five dungeons in the game. They're pretty cool but mostly puzzles with occasional combat thrown in. The climbing mechanic is unbelievably cool in BOTW. Climbing mountains and towers is far and away the best part of the game. The story is kind of crap, but you know to expect that going in on a Zelda game. I do have to admit the art style looks amazing.

The real crown jewel of the Switch is Super Mario Odyssey. It's one of the most creative games I have ever played with the possession mechanic, it's beautiful graphically, and the 2D areas are great. The only Mario game I have ever liked more was the original Super Mario Bros on NES. The entire New Donk City level is incredible.

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:25 PM
My fear with bloodborne is that from what I’ve read, the learning curve can be so high that you’re really not enjoying the first several hours. And while I’m usually someone that likes playing games on hard difficulties I’ve never really played that genre before, so it’s intimidating :lol

sometimes difficulty is well done and other times it’s just a chore

The first level is extremely difficult. Even when I was getting destroyed and wanting to throw my Dualshock through the TV I had to admit the combat was fun as hell. The problem with the beginning is you can't progress until finding a point of "insight". That's what allows you to start leveling up. You can find something called "Madman's knowledge" that will give you a point if you consume it or you can get a point by getting to one of the bosses even if he kills you (and he will, most bosses are way too difficult to beat on the first try unless you get lucky). Until you get that point of insight you're just spinning your wheels. And Bloodborne never tells you that you have to get that point of insight. It's the anti-Uncharted when it comes to hand holding.

Honestly at $13.99 for the complete edition, what's even the opportunity cost of buying it if it looks at all interesting? You can also get the regular edition of the game right now on PSN for $7.99, but if you buy one I highly recommend the Complete Edition since the DLC usually sells for $20 by itself and is amazing IMO.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:28 PM
BOTW is good but I think it's the most overrated game since GTA IV (another game that got 10/10 reviews everywhere). Though I thought GTA IV was a complete piece of shit. You'll like BOTW if you really enjoy exploration in open world games. If you like dungeons and combat they're really lacking in BOTW. There are only five dungeons in the game. They're pretty cool but mostly puzzles with occasional combat thrown in. The climbing mechanic is unbelievably cool in BOTW. Climbing mountains and towers is far and away the best part of the game. The story is kind of crap, but you know to expect that going in on a Zelda game. I do have to admit the art style looks amazing.

The real crown jewel of the Switch is Super Mario Odyssey. It's one of the most creative games I have ever played with the possession mechanic, it's beautiful graphically, and the 2D areas are great. The only Mario game I have ever liked more was the original Super Mario Bros on NES. The entire New Donk City level is incredible.
this is one of the big reasons i trust your reviews. i never completed the game, which is just about unheard of for me when it comes to console gaming. i tried twice and got bored and quit both times. sold that piece of shit within about a month of buying it. i was a HUGE fan of san andreas and think GTA V is one of the greatest games of all time, but found 4 unplayable.

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:33 PM
this is one of the big reasons i trust your reviews. i never completed the game, which is just about unheard of for me when it comes to console gaming. i tried twice and got bored and quit both times. sold that piece of shit within about a month of buying it. i was a HUGE fan of san andreas and think GTA V is one of the greatest games of all time, but found 4 unplayable.

I actually did complete GTA IV without enjoying a single second of it because I loved III / Vice City / San Andreas so much and kept expecting IV to become amazing at some point because it was Rockstar. I'm so glad they fixed the driving in GTA V to play like it did in San Andreas and before.

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:35 PM
Actually, I shouldn't say I didn't enjoy any of the GTA IV. That game did introduce me to Ricky Gervais, who did some hilarious standup at one of the clubs you could take a date to in the game. But that was literally the only good thing about GTA IV.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:36 PM
I actually did complete GTA IV without enjoying a single second of it because I loved III / Vice City / San Andreas so much and kept expecting IV to become amazing at some point because it was Rockstar. I'm so glad they fixed the driving in GTA V to play like it did in San Andreas and before.
yeah, GTA is meant to be an arcade style game. there comes a point where realism makes no sense and just detracts from the game

there were just a lot of things wrong with the game. niko was such a worthless character. zero appeal. his friends were stupid. the city was stupid. they actually tried incentivizing calling for a fucking taxi instead of just stealing a car. in a game called grand theft auto.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:38 PM
The first level is extremely difficult. Even when I was getting destroyed and wanting to throw my Dualshock through the TV I had to admit the combat was fun as hell. The problem with the beginning is you can't progress until finding a point of "insight". That's what allows you to start leveling up. You can find something called "Madman's knowledge" that will give you a point if you consume it or you can get a point by getting to one of the bosses even if he kills you (and he will, most bosses are way too difficult to beat on the first try unless you get lucky). Until you get that point of insight you're just spinning your wheels. And Bloodborne never tells you that you have to get that point of insight. It's the anti-Uncharted when it comes to hand holding.

Honestly at $13.99 for the complete edition, what's even the opportunity cost of buying it if it looks at all interesting? You can also get the regular edition of the game right now on PSN for $7.99, but if you buy one I highly recommend the Complete Edition since the DLC usually sells for $20 by itself and is amazing IMO.
that's a fair point tbh. it's a title i'll probably pick up down the line, along with witcher 3. i'm probably gonna eventually fall behind on consoles again, and start playing a lot of the great ps4 titles for dirt cheap at a point in time when people are spending money on the ps5 :lol

but again, i'm not that well versed in RPGs, so those games are going to take some adjustments. i mean yeah i've played some fallout, but my understanding is those are pretty watered down compared to some of the bigger rpgs

apalisoc_9
12-17-2018, 07:38 PM
BOTW is def all time overrated. But I still wanna play it. I cant imagine it being worse than an 8/10 game.

Obviously BOTW capitalized with nostalgia.

apalisoc_9
12-17-2018, 07:43 PM
The thing that pissess me off with Zelda reviews, every RPGs story is dissected. You make one one misstep and you're losing a point. But Zelda reviews had to omit story that or the typical " you cant judge its story..thats not what zelda is for"

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:46 PM
that's a fair point tbh. it's a title i'll probably pick up down the line, along with witcher 3. i'm probably gonna eventually fall behind on consoles again, and start playing a lot of the great ps4 titles for dirt cheap at a point in time when people are spending money on the ps5 :lol

but again, i'm not that well versed in RPGs, so those games are going to take some adjustments. i mean yeah i've played some fallout, but my understanding is those are pretty watered down compared to some of the bigger rpgs

They'll probably both go on similar sales at some point next year too. Here are their price histories on PSN:

https://psprices.com/region-us/game/115727/bloodbornetm-complete-edition-bundle

https://psprices.com/region-us/game/870467/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-complete-edition

Funny enough both the Complete Edition and the only base game versions of Witcher 3 are $20 on PSN right now. :lol

RD2191
12-17-2018, 07:48 PM
BOTW is good but I think it's the most overrated game since GTA IV (another game that got 10/10 reviews everywhere). Though I thought GTA IV was a complete piece of shit. You'll like BOTW if you really enjoy exploration in open world games. If you like dungeons and combat they're really lacking in BOTW. There are only five dungeons in the game. They're pretty cool but mostly puzzles with occasional combat thrown in. The climbing mechanic is unbelievably cool in BOTW. Climbing mountains and towers is far and away the best part of the game. The story is kind of crap, but you know to expect that going in on a Zelda game. I do have to admit the art style looks amazing.

The real crown jewel of the Switch is Super Mario Odyssey. It's one of the most creative games I have ever played with the possession mechanic, it's beautiful graphically, and the 2D areas are great. The only Mario game I have ever liked more was the original Super Mario Bros on NES. The entire New Donk City level is incredible.

Damn, I was looking forward to more dungeons. :lol You might have me sold on Odyssey though. Sounds like a hell of a fun game.

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:50 PM
Damn, I was looking forward to more dungeons. :lol You might have me sold on Odyssey though. Sounds like a hell of a fun game.

There are a bunch of shrines in BOTW but the combat is pretty lame in them. They're mostly about doing puzzles too. I loved Odyssey even though I hated Mario 64. But the control is good enough in Odyssey to make 3D Mario really work there.

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 07:57 PM
I think Honest Game Trailers did a good review of BOTW. He liked it more than I did, but it's a good summary IMO:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf1vNh2I8Fc

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:58 PM
They'll probably both go on similar sales at some point next year too. Here are their price histories on PSN:

https://psprices.com/region-us/game/115727/bloodbornetm-complete-edition-bundle

https://psprices.com/region-us/game/870467/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-complete-edition

Funny enough both the Complete Edition and the only base game versions of Witcher 3 are $20 on PSN right now. :lol
also i believe the base version of bloodborne was one of the free monthy PS Plus games some time ago

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 08:11 PM
also i believe the base version of bloodborne was one of the free monthy PS Plus games some time ago

It was, but you buy PS Plus? I'm too old to be good at online shooters so I pass on that shit tbh.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 08:15 PM
It was, but you buy PS Plus? I'm too old to be good at online shooters so I pass on that shit tbh.
nah, i dont have PS Plus. before my gaming hiatus i was pretty big on the COD stuff, so i was all about online gaming. but that shit was free on the PS3.

and now im looking forward to just taking my time and exploring the big single player titles. dont have a need for online stuff (though i've also read that bloodborne is a quasi-online game or somethin like that, i'm sure you can expand on that).

baseline bum
12-17-2018, 08:20 PM
nah, i dont have PS Plus. before my gaming hiatus i was pretty big on the COD stuff, so i was all about online gaming. but that shit was free on the PS3.

and now im looking forward to just taking my time and exploring the big single player titles. dont have a need for online stuff (though i've also read that bloodborne is a quasi-online game or somethin like that, i'm sure you can expand on that).

Bloodborne has player vs player if you're into that and you can summon other players to your game for co-op action. A lot of people do it for boss fights, but it seems like a waste IMO since you're getting rid of the challenge that way.

apalisoc_9
12-17-2018, 08:46 PM
Id play GOW first. Much better story and slightly better combat.

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 09:02 PM
Id play GOW first. Much better story and slightly better combat.
oh i'm sure it has much better combat. combat was never the strong suit of rockstar games. and its the staple of god of war.

ElNono
12-17-2018, 10:24 PM
tbh, RDR2 wasn't halfway bad... sure, it starts a bit slow, but I mixed up side-missions with the main quest and it was pretty good... Rob just probably having flashbacks/nightmares when he was crossing the Rio Grande on his pony, IMO.

GOW is just the GOY though, just one of those games you don't want it to end.

Got me BOTW for the Switch too over the weekend, so I'm heading out for the holidays with that and Mario, will see what the hype is all about.

BTW, finished Hitman 2 in like 4 hours last night. Totally 'rent it' if you can, not worth a buy, too short.

Xevious
12-17-2018, 11:45 PM
tbh, RDR2 wasn't halfway bad... sure, it starts a bit slow, but I mixed up side-missions with the main quest and it was pretty good... Rob just probably having flashbacks/nightmares when he was crossing the Rio Grande on his pony, IMO.
That's the way it should be IMO. Some of the side missions were better than the story missions and absolutely essential to the storyline/character development IMO. Others were typical Rockstar fluff with quirky characters, etc.

140
12-18-2018, 05:03 AM
tbh, RDR2 wasn't halfway bad... sure, it starts a bit slow, but I mixed up side-missions with the main quest and it was pretty good... Rob just probably having flashbacks/nightmares when he was crossing the Rio Grande on his pony, IMO.
:lol

spurraider21
12-18-2018, 12:21 PM
tbh the first hour+ of RDR2 is painfully slow... its almost all cinematics at this point as you slowly walk to follow another character. early on when they talk about the train, i was thinkin "oh, finally something exciting" and it was a letdown. short and dreadfully easy.

also the controls feel clunky, but that's just going to take adjustment. still have to get used to all these different item types and different things i gotta pay attention to (health/stamina... not only meters but also the cores. just seems tedious imo). its like in San Andreas when u had to pay attention to what your character ate and had to hit the gym and stuff. felt more like a chore than anything.

but obviously i'm not writing the game off yet. but at this early juncture, its just a pretty $60 wall painting :lol

baseline bum
12-18-2018, 12:53 PM
tbh the first hour+ of RDR2 is painfully slow... its almost all cinematics at this point as you slowly walk to follow another character. early on when they talk about the train, i was thinkin "oh, finally something exciting" and it was a letdown. short and dreadfully easy.

also the controls feel clunky, but that's just going to take adjustment. still have to get used to all these different item types and different things i gotta pay attention to (health/stamina... not only meters but also the cores. just seems tedious imo). its like in San Andreas when u had to pay attention to what your character ate and had to hit the gym and stuff. felt more like a chore than anything.

but obviously i'm not writing the game off yet. but at this early juncture, its just a pretty $60 wall painting :lol

You gotta go into the settings and turn the acceleration and sensitivity to the max and turn the dead zone way down in the controller settings. Out the box the control is awful IMO.

baseline bum
12-18-2018, 12:55 PM
tbh, RDR2 wasn't halfway bad... sure, it starts a bit slow, but I mixed up side-missions with the main quest and it was pretty good... Rob just probably having flashbacks/nightmares when he was crossing the Rio Grande on his pony, IMO.

GOW is just the GOY though, just one of those games you don't want it to end.

Got me BOTW for the Switch too over the weekend, so I'm heading out for the holidays with that and Mario, will see what the hype is all about.

BTW, finished Hitman 2 in like 4 hours last night. Totally 'rent it' if you can, not worth a buy, too short.

Mario is the one you could actually finish in 30-40 hours. BOTW IMO sucks if all you want to do is run through the main story and finish it quick. The good part is just aimless exploration, but then you're probably looking at a 150 hour or so game.

baseline bum
12-18-2018, 12:55 PM
fckin double post

spurraider21
12-18-2018, 01:10 PM
You gotta go into the settings and turn the acceleration and sensitivity to the max and turn the dead zone way down in the controller settings. Out the box the control is awful IMO.
i'm not necessarily referring to the character movement, i can deal with that. just talkin about going through inventory, drawing weapons, etc.

even picking up/looting items is unnecessarily time consuming

baseline bum
12-18-2018, 01:25 PM
Dang, thanks for the heads up.

If you don't mind digital the Playstation Store just put God of War on sale for $28. The store sucks about updating though so you have to add it to your cart to see the sale price.

baseline bum
12-18-2018, 07:15 PM
RD2191, Best Buy just put God of War on sale for $24.99 on their website. You should have no problem getting them to price match in store. I do that shit all the time when buying games from Best Buy.

RD2191
12-18-2018, 07:35 PM
RD2191, Best Buy just put God of War on sale for $24.99 on their website. You should have no problem getting them to price match in store. I do that shit all the time when buying games from Best Buy.

:tu thanks for the head up. I'll have to check it out.

baseline bum
12-18-2018, 08:17 PM
:tu thanks for the head up. I'll have to check it out.

I was just down at the Best Buy at the Forum (picked up a copy of God of War and RDR2 for a gift) and they had a few Switches with hackable serials. I saw one with grey joycons with an XAW100566***** number and a couple others that were XAW10077***, I think grey but might have seen a blue and red neon joycons one too. According to gbatemp anything XAW10078*** or lower is hackable. And they're giving a $25 gift card with the purchase of the system, so not too bad a deal to get a hackable Switch brand new for effectively $300 after tax.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/switch-informations-by-serial-number-read-the-first-post-before-asking-questions.481215/

Also that $25 was the regular price for God of War. Usually I have to get them to price match their website to get the sale prices.

Xevious
12-19-2018, 12:25 AM
tbh the first hour+ of RDR2 is painfully slow... its almost all cinematics at this point as you slowly walk to follow another character. early on when they talk about the train, i was thinkin "oh, finally something exciting" and it was a letdown. short and dreadfully easy.

also the controls feel clunky, but that's just going to take adjustment. still have to get used to all these different item types and different things i gotta pay attention to (health/stamina... not only meters but also the cores. just seems tedious imo). its like in San Andreas when u had to pay attention to what your character ate and had to hit the gym and stuff. felt more like a chore than anything.

but obviously i'm not writing the game off yet. but at this early juncture, its just a pretty $60 wall painting :lol
Managing your cores gets fairly painfree and seamless as you level up your health, stamina, etc. You'll be able to go a long while and survive multiple fights without doing a whole lot. I pretty much just made Arthur eat something twice a day while roaming and would usually sleep at night unless there was something specific I wanted to do at that time (wandering around the swamp at night is fucked up). And my weight usually stayed at "average". Plus when you learn to hunt and forage better, you'll be cooking food that adds extra benefits to your cores.

The horse I'd feed/brush whenever I ate. It gets to level 4 bond pretty quick, but you want to get a better horse than that shit you start with.

Edit: And always keep at least two outfits on your horse. One for warm weather and one for cold (you start with both). Wandering into the snow with short sleeves is a good way to fuck up your cores.

baseline bum
12-20-2018, 10:58 AM
Get in here DJR210, 140, Cry Havoc, ElNono


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWVKttWAM4

ElNono
12-20-2018, 01:46 PM
Kind of a given after GTA V made it too, IMO

140
12-20-2018, 02:30 PM
Fuck, I might have to upgrade my PC tbh :lol

baseline bum
12-20-2018, 02:48 PM
Fuck, I might have to upgrade my PC tbh :lol

I'm still going to wait for Cyberpunk 2077.

Bynumite
12-20-2018, 11:04 PM
Kind of a given after GTA V made it too, IMO

Not really, every GTA besides spinoffs have made their way to PC since GTA 3. This is the 3rd Red Dead and the other 2 are only on consoles.

DJR210
12-21-2018, 03:15 AM
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Fuck yeah, looks like it will be sooner than later too :tu

ElNono
12-21-2018, 08:10 AM
Not really, every GTA besides spinoffs have made their way to PC since GTA 3. This is the 3rd Red Dead and the other 2 are only on consoles.

The engine they use since 2006 (RAGE), was originally written and optimized for the Xbox 360. It even performed fairly poorly when ported to the PS3 (if you remember, the Xbox version of GTA 4 ran at a higher resolution than the PS3 version).

They’ve done a lot of work on that since 2011, with the Windows version of GTA V being the first version of the engine doing 4K. I don’t think technologically they have impediments now, but they’ll probably continue to release on console first just strictly on revenue.

And by that I don’t mean that PC sales might be smaller, but doing QA and support on Windows hardware has always been more costly due to the variety of hardware.

stu scotts eye
12-26-2018, 01:03 AM
Check the USER reviews on metacritic tbh. Don't fall for the hype. This is more of an interactive movie than a game imo tbh FWIW

Yeah. Brief search of your post history shows YOU are the fat ass dork hahahahah

spurraider21
01-16-2019, 02:52 PM
im still in the early missions of chapter 4...

very early in the game, the main narrative feels so weak and remote, that you can wander around and free roam and that feels totally fine. by the middle-end of the chapter 3, the story really starts to ramp and it feels awkward to take breaks in the action, i almost feel compelled to move forward with main missions.

the main issue with this game is the lack of difficulty slider. i know that this has been a staple of the GTA/RDR franchises, and the story/set pieces are supposed to dominate your experience, rather than sheer gameplay, but by chapter 3 u just sorta feel like rambo during main quests. again though, that's basically always been a staple of R* games, and its safe to say the narrative/set pieces do not disappoint. i mean there are artificial ways to ramp your difficulty... dont use items or deadeye, disable auto aim, etc. but again, this isn't a critique unique to this game, its a R* thing

while i'm still only about 52% through the game, per the completion tracker, i'll say the story/narrative in this game crush anything GTA related, but GTA, and particularly V, had such an amazing arcade feel to it, with so much over the top action, that it has much more replay value than RDR2. starting a new game of RDR2 would seem like such a daunting commitment. but during this initial play-through its compelling as fuck

Xevious
01-16-2019, 05:38 PM
im still in the early missions of chapter 4...

very early in the game, the main narrative feels so weak and remote, that you can wander around and free roam and that feels totally fine. by the middle-end of the chapter 3, the story really starts to ramp and it feels awkward to take breaks in the action, i almost feel compelled to move forward with main missions.
That's about right. The end of chapter 3 through chapter 5 are kind of fast and furious in feel. It feels fucked up to go on a fishing trip while Jack is missing for example. Without giving anything away, you as the player want to slow down a little bit in chapter 6 and the stranger missions even reflect that, with more personal, character-building type stuff. You'll probably even choose to avoid camp whenever possible, whereas the camp (and all the comaraderie within) are huge parts of the earlier chapters.

As for the comparisons to GTA, Red Dead is a different animal. While the gameplay is more or less the same (horses instead of cars), GTA is basically over-the-top action movie, while Red Dead is a little more measured with an incredible story and characterization.

spurraider21
01-16-2019, 05:41 PM
That's about right. The end of chapter 3 through chapter 5 are kind of fast and furious in feel. It feels fucked up to go on a fishing trip while Jack is missing for example. Without giving anything away, you as the player want to slow down a little bit in chapter 6 and the stranger missions even reflect that, with more personal, character-building type stuff. You'll probably even choose to avoid camp whenever possible, whereas the camp (and all the comaraderie within) are huge parts of the earlier chapters.

As for the comparisons to GTA, Red Dead is a different animal. While the gameplay is more or less the same (horses instead of cars), GTA is basically over-the-top action movie, while Red Dead is a little more measured with an incredible story and characterization.
agreed tbh, but just thinkin about it from the perspective of replayability

apalisoc_9
01-16-2019, 05:47 PM
Lol Ill probably never play this game. Way too intimidating ( lenghtwise). I always lose focus and attention. Same thing happened with persona 5. At some point i stopped caring and just wanted to finish the dame game.

Red Dead is probably 100+ if you play it right. Way too long for my taste.

40-60 is the sweet spot for RPGs imo

spurraider21
01-16-2019, 05:53 PM
Lol Ill probably never play this game. Way too intimidating ( lenghtwise). I always lose focus and attention. Same thing happened with persona 5. At some point i stopped caring and just wanted to finish the dame game.

Red Dead is probably 100+ if you play it right. Way too long for my taste.

40-60 is the sweet spot for RPGs imo
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=27100

apalisoc_9
01-16-2019, 05:56 PM
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=27100

50 hrs for main story. So thats roughly 100hrs with the way I usually play games...thats long. I guess ill pick it up once its at the recycled games bin.

Xevious
01-16-2019, 06:02 PM
I easily logged 100+ hours, but it never felt like a chore. You can always speed things along, or slow them down depending on what you want to do.

Persona 5 I'm sure I hit 125ish hours and it just became a slog IMO. Even though I liked it, I was really ready for it to end and I had no desire to play any video games afterwards for months.

spurraider21
01-16-2019, 06:16 PM
I easily logged 100+ hours, but it never felt like a chore. You can always speed things along, or slow them down depending on what you want to do.

Persona 5 I'm sure I hit 125ish hours and it just became a slog IMO. Even though I liked it, I was really ready for it to end and I had no desire to play any video games afterwards for months.
tbh i cant remember ever actually having video game fatigue, in that i didnt want to play any games. but i will say that with games becoming much more cinematic, and with heavier and heavier emphasis on narrative, characters, and stories... picking up a new game is sort of a mental undertaking, because you have to focus and pay attention. its kinda like how when you're tired and just want to relax in front of the tv, you'd rather watch a short show than begin a movie you've never seen before. you need to learn the lore, really get to know the characters, etc.

but ive never felt the need to step away from playing games altogether. back in the day i could just play COD whenver since they were just a bunch of short matches. i dont play online atm, but a solution would just be to play shorter games that are less narrative intensive

Xevious
01-16-2019, 10:10 PM
but ive never felt the need to step away from playing games altogether. back in the day i could just play COD whenver since they were just a bunch of short matches. i dont play online atm, but a solution would just be to play shorter games that are less narrative intensive
Yeah the next game I played was (like a fourth run through of) The Last of Us. It was short and familiar. And Spiderman after that, also not very long.

That's really the only time I've experienced fatigue that bad (and I used to play the shit out of MMOs like Warcraft and Everquest back in the day). I think it was just P5. As I said, it was a slog. I was ignoring housework and shit just to finish the thing.

apalisoc_9
01-16-2019, 10:17 PM
Yeah the next game I played was (like a fourth run through of) The Last of Us. It was short and familiar. And Spiderman after that, also not very long.

That's really the only time I've experienced fatigue that bad (and I used to play the shit out of MMOs like Warcraft and Everquest back in the day). I think it was just P5. As I said, it was a slog. I was ignoring housework and shit just to finish the thing.

Play yakuza 0. Just go through the main story. Should be 29 hrs long. I promise its one of the goat story in games

Xevious
01-16-2019, 10:59 PM
Play yakuza 0. Just go through the main story. Should be 29 hrs long. I promise its one of the goat story in games

I might try that after GoW.

spurraider21
01-18-2019, 12:17 PM
got caught up on all the available stranger missions and finished the hunter challenge set (final challenge was the legendary panther)... i feel like i've said this to myself about 15 times by now, but ok NOW i'm going to start actually pushing through the main story

also, absolutely not planning on going for 100% completion or platinum or anything like that. i have zero interest in riding around picking 40 different kinds of herbs and sitting down and playing dominoes and blackjack for hours on end or shit like that

RD2191
01-20-2019, 05:27 PM
got caught up on all the available stranger missions and finished the hunter challenge set (final challenge was the legendary panther)... i feel like i've said this to myself about 15 times by now, but ok NOW i'm going to start actually pushing through the main story

also, absolutely not planning on going for 100% completion or platinum or anything like that. i have zero interest in riding around picking 40 different kinds of herbs and sitting down and playing dominoes and blackjack for hours on end or shit like that

Boring as shit tbh

spurraider21
01-20-2019, 05:35 PM
The ending of chapter 4 is just wow. Chapter 5 is short and a bit out of place. But 6 starts off amazing

spurraider21
01-23-2019, 01:54 PM
man, i ruined a stranger mission by using L2 to talk, not realizing my gun was out. aimed right at the girl and she ran away. its the one where you teach the widow how to hunt

Xevious
01-23-2019, 03:25 PM
man, i ruined a stranger mission by using L2 to talk, not realizing my gun was out. aimed right at the girl and she ran away. its the one where you teach the widow how to hunt
:lol

Maybe it'll show again later. Not sure.

spurraider21
01-28-2019, 02:31 PM
:lol

Maybe it'll show again later. Not sure.
it did not show again

i finished the main story over the weekend, and played a bit into the epilogue. the epilogue so far feels really odd and out of place imo, but the game told a hell of a story

Xevious
01-28-2019, 05:32 PM
it did not show again

i finished the main story over the weekend, and played a bit into the epilogue. the epilogue so far feels really odd and out of place imo, but the game told a hell of a story
The epilogue adds about seven hours worth of missions plus opens up the New Austin map. The last mission in particular is essential the the storyline of the main game, but there's a while lot of fan service in the epilogue. Since you haven't played the first Red Dead you probably won't appreciate some of it. But they do a good job of bridging the gap between the two games.

While I don't believe it to be true, I've read rumors that Rockstar was making a Red Dead 1 remake within the Red Dead 2 game. People have glitched over to the Mexico map, which is essentially rendered, and have had their epilogue character's voice change to a character's voice from the first game without reason. Won't say anything other than that to avoid spoilers.

spurraider21
01-28-2019, 05:35 PM
The epilogue adds about seven hours worth of missions plus opens up the New Austin map. The last mission in particular is essential the the storyline of the main game, but there's a while lot of fan service in the epilogue. Since you haven't played the first Red Dead you probably won't appreciate some of it. But they do a good job of bridging the gap between the two games.

While I don't believe it to be true, I've read rumors that Rockstar was making a Red Dead 1 remake within the Red Dead 2 game. People have glitched over to the Mexico map, which is essentially rendered, and have had their epilogue character's voice change to a character's voice from the first game without reason. Won't say anything other than that to avoid spoilers.
yeah, even though i haven't played the first RDR, i did notice a bit of this. there's a scene where you're holding the double barrel shotty just like the cover photo of the old game. even i picked up on that. that and getting the classic outfit from the original game being such a big moment. i just finished epilogue 1 which was farming simulator, but i imagine part 2 being a lot better after laying the foundation

Xevious
01-28-2019, 05:46 PM
yeah, even though i haven't played the first RDR, i did notice a bit of this. there's a scene where you're holding the double barrel shotty just like the cover photo of the old game. even i picked up on that. that and getting the classic outfit from the original game being such a big moment. i just finished epilogue 1 which was farming simulator, but i imagine part 2 being a lot better after laying the foundation
It is. And most if not all of the Uncle stuff is hilarious.

spurraider21
01-29-2019, 08:54 PM
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Joseph Kony
01-29-2019, 09:33 PM
damn i didnt even realize it was coming out on PC :lol thanks for the tag bb :depressed

idk why but i havent been able to bring myself to play much of this game. it just seems to big and daunting for me right now

baseline bum
01-29-2019, 10:21 PM
https://i.redd.it/09u24glcpv921.jpg

Isn't that RDR1? :lol

baseline bum
01-29-2019, 10:27 PM
damn i didnt even realize it was coming out on PC :lol thanks for the tag bb :depressed

idk why but i havent been able to bring myself to play much of this game. it just seems to big and daunting for me right now

I know what you mean. I bought it the night of launch and still only have a few hours in it. It's not officially announced for PC but there have been some leaks suggesting it's coming. Plus Rockstar loves double dipping over two generations and most of their games come to PC.

redzero
04-11-2020, 03:54 PM
The NPCs are mongoloids when playing Blackjack. They stay on soft 14 for no reason.

spurraider21
04-13-2020, 06:01 PM
The NPCs are mongoloids when playing Blackjack. They stay on soft 14 for no reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_IZK-1naY

baseline bum
04-13-2020, 06:08 PM
The NPCs are mongoloids when playing Blackjack. They stay on soft 14 for no reason.

Bend over. I'll give you a soft 14.

DMC
04-18-2020, 05:11 PM
RDR2 on PC is pretty good. I too have accidentally ruined opportunities by shooting something by mistake, and the dude who challenges you to a shooting contest had his gun pointed right at my head so I shot him. That didn't work out.

redzero
04-18-2020, 08:04 PM
RDR2 on PC is pretty good. I too have accidentally ruined opportunities by shooting something by mistake, and the dude who challenges you to a shooting contest had his gun pointed right at my head so I shot him. That didn't work out.

I have shot every person who challenged me to any contest. I can't help it. My karma is shi.t right now.

DMC
04-19-2020, 02:12 AM
I have shot every person who challenged me to any contest. I can't help it. My karma is shi.t right now.

Karma is fucked, the game drags you into situations then penalizes your karma for actions you basically had to take.

Xevious
04-19-2020, 02:36 AM
That's part of the character though. He's basically a piece a shit for the gang, but he has a lot of internal struggles.

It's really easy to get the honor level up, but it's going to take some dings just from the story missions.

baseline bum
04-19-2020, 10:48 AM
Karma is fucked, the game drags you into situations then penalizes your karma for actions you basically had to take.

So just be the bad guy then?

DMC
04-19-2020, 01:15 PM
So just be the bad guy then?

That's too easy though. I could kill everyone, tell the chick that cucked me to fuck her father some more (it wont let me kill her) and kill everyone in town but the challenge seems to be redemption. I feel like homie has an illness, after getting a face full of blood from a sick person and the coughing he's going through now (and the comment by the islander that the remedy doesn't cure chronic issues - foreshadowing).

I really want to shoot Dutch in the face. Tired of his "have faith" shtick after getting us into one ambush after another.

:lol anytime I get a bath, I get into a fight outside the hotel and I'm muddy before I leave town.

redzero
04-19-2020, 06:27 PM
Murder is just way too tempting, especially when I know I can get away with it. I saw a dude prospecting for gold, and I stabbed him to death because why not?

DJR210
04-19-2020, 08:40 PM
Bend over. I'll give you a soft 14.

:lol

Bynumite
04-22-2020, 05:00 AM
The NPCs are mongoloids when playing Blackjack. They stay on soft 14 for no reason.

The point of the game is not the player to hit 21, it's to make the dealer bust.

I know it's just a videogame and there is no real money involved, but i've seen too many idiots in real life with that same mindset ruining hands.

redzero
04-22-2020, 10:51 AM
The point of the game is not the player to hit 21, it's to make the dealer bust.

I know it's just a videogame and there is no real money involved, but i've seen too many idiots in real life with that same mindset ruining hands.

I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I've seen hundreds of thousands of hands of blackjack, so I know how it works.

spurraider21
04-22-2020, 03:56 PM
I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I've seen hundreds of thousands of hands of blackjack, so I know how it works.
yeah it seems he's saying competing things, but my first interpretation was that he's suggesting that its it doesnt make much sense to complain about how other players on the table play. unless you are counting, its always hindsight = 20/20 to determine if the other player screwed you or screwed the dealer with an unnecessary hit

DMC
04-24-2020, 05:11 PM
Went in after the Epilogue to play cards, meant to press Y to accept the invite to sit but was just a bit far from the chair, grabbed the innocent dude by the window and beat the living shit out of him. So much for that card game.

redzero
05-09-2020, 01:05 PM
The gambling challenges can get so tedious towards the end. I was making moves I never would normally do in Blackjack just to complete the "Win 3 Hands After Hitting 3 Times" challenge. Even getting into a situation where one can hit three times is rare, unless they're hitting soft 18, 19 and 20.

spurraider21
05-09-2020, 02:05 PM
The gambling challenges can get so tedious towards the end. I was making moves I never would normally do in Blackjack just to complete the "Win 3 Hands After Hitting 3 Times" challenge. Even getting into a situation where one can hit three times is rare, unless they're hitting soft 18, 19 and 20.
I never engage in that crap if it’s an accomplishment/trophy that is that detached from the game

Xevious
05-09-2020, 03:32 PM
The gambling challenges can get so tedious towards the end. I was making moves I never would normally do in Blackjack just to complete the "Win 3 Hands After Hitting 3 Times" challenge. Even getting into a situation where one can hit three times is rare, unless they're hitting soft 18, 19 and 20.
I completed all the challenges on my last playthrough and that blackjack one is a bitch. Basically I was betting the min and would just auto hit three times regardless of the hand I was dealt and eventually I got lucky. The last survivalist challenge (or herbalist?) where you have to collect every plant in the game was my least favorite though. I had to use a guide to finish it.

redzero
06-16-2020, 03:21 AM
I was not expecting all this extra stuff to open up in the epilogue. It's like I'm playing the first game all over again...kinda.