Michelle Obama: People 'don't trust politics' because Republican party is 'all men,

[ducks]

Michelle Obama: People 'don't trust politics' because Republican party is 'all men, all white'
what a racist idiot

[clambake]

rough day, huh ducks?

[monosylab1k]

what a racist idiot

Better than a pedo


so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

[Reck]

What's worst ducks? Being a racist or being a pedo who also likes to pee on them R Kelly style?

[clambake]

this is ducks, guys


maybe you should chill on that. his reaction to your ribbing is a bit unsettling.

[Quadzilla99]

White dudes do make up like 30% of the population and 90% of the Republican party tbh

[Fabbs]

White dudes do make up like 30% of the population and 90% of the Republican party tbh

[DarrinS]

White devils. Need to be exterminated.

[monosylab1k]

White devils. Need to be exterminated.

“The Republican Party lacks diversity” becomes “Kill the white devil” because you’re soooooo not racist.

[Pavlov]

Wow DarrinS triggered hard.

[ducks]

Becky Wade
Works at Retired
if Republican Party is "all men, all white" then the Democratic Party must be made up of liars, cheats, all black women? I am not a racist, but her comment sure is. We, the deplorables, are made up of the working class of America and believe it or not, we are black, white, every other color and men AND women.

[ducks]

Don Ferguson
Owner at Whistle Stop Deli
Race was almost a thing of the past until her husband took office always playing the race card I have voted on both sides of the isle never will vote for a democrat as long as they keep pushing race as a agenda its their way or you must be a racist

[ducks]

Willie Wilson
Ottawa, Illinois
Can't agree with you more! Obama has created the worst racism in this country since the civil war!

[ducks]

Bryan Shannon
When will this sick women and her husbund stop sowing division. She is clearly a racist, and she is happy to let everyone know. Bad for America.

[ducks]

Gina Borg
Ignorant and racist statement. This kind of rhetoric is divisive and irresponsible. It's a shame that she doesn't utilize her former standing for the good, instead of peddling her narrow minded delusions.

[ducks]

Paul Oman
Humboldt State/UHCLC
trump won the majority of white women. How does she explain that? You could say that women elected trump..

This kind of race talk wasn't an issue for the past 60 years unitl the obama's brought it back

[ducks]

Joann Brunner
The Obama's claim to care so much about the black community, what have either done for them? NOTHING! The black communities are worse than they have ever been. Then they, and the rest of the liberals call Trump racist, but it was him who was awarded many times for his work with black communities by Rev. Jackson, MLK's family... Somehow, liberals ignore this FACT! Liberalism is a mental illness.
O

[Pavlov]

OK, ducks triggered harder.

[apalisoc_9]

Michelle...

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png

[RandomGuy]

Michelle Obama: People 'don't trust politics' because Republican party is 'all men, all white'
what a racist idiot

Truth hurts?

[RandomGuy]

http://crooksandliars.com/files/primary_image/15/10/32199.jpg

Republican House Freedom Caucus.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.newsiosity.com/sites/default/files/congress-gop-house-oath-of-officejpg-b0f41775db015359.jpg

Here's the swearing in on the GOP side of the house.

More on the same.

[RandomGuy]

https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13743368_498974590310299_1987002840_n.jpg

The interns do have some women.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.sccdp.org/sites/default/files/House-Gop-Chairs.jpg

I guess it's ok to have the ladies, just don't let them run anything.

[RandomGuy]

Joann Brunner
The Obama's claim to care so much about the black community, what have either done for them? NOTHING! The black communities are worse than they have ever been. Then they, and the rest of the liberals call Trump racist, but it was him who was awarded many times for his work with black communities by Rev. Jackson, MLK's family... Somehow, liberals ignore this FACT! Liberalism is a mental illness.
O

Republicans ignore the fact that there is a strong streak of racism in the Republican party.

I will be happy to admit that Democrats can, and should do more.

The problem is that the Republicans not only don't act to further the interests of black people, they actively work to harm them, and this is obvious to all but the most brainwashed.

[UZER]

“The Republican Party lacks diversity” becomes “Kill the white devil” because you’re soooooo not racist.

lacks diversity :lol

Any black dude that's Republican has to put up with constantly being called an uncle Tom by other blacks.

[RandomGuy]

lacks diversity :lol

Any black dude that's Republican has to put up with constantly being called an uncle Tom by other blacks.

Fair criticism, to a point.

Collaborators have always come in for grief.

GOP dogwhistles and stances get awfully hard to explain without racism when pretty much all neo-nazis run as Republicans.

Not all White Republicans are racist.

Almost all white racists are Republican.

Why do you think that is?

[monosylab1k]

lacks diversity :lol

Any black dude that's Republican has to put up with constantly being called an uncle Tom by other blacks.

Yeah, the issue must be with 99% of black people then. They’re all the ones with the problem here, it couldn’t possibly be Republicans.

[boutons_deux]

Fair criticism, to a point.

Collaborators have always come in for grief.

GOP dogwhistles and stances get awfully hard to explain without racism when pretty much all neo-nazis run as Republicans.

Not all White Republicans are racist.

Almost all white racists are Republican.

Why do you think that is?

but supporting and voting for Repugs and Trash enable and participate in their racism, misogyny, xenophobia, so just being a Repug isn't innocent.

Repugs have NO redeeming qualities.

The one progressive act the Repugs have passed in 45 years, ADA / Americans with Disabilities Act, is now targeted by the Repugs for weakening if not repeal.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, the issue must be with 99% of black people then. They’re all the ones with the problem here, it couldn’t possibly be Republicans.

:lol

[ducks]

there is racism on both sides
democrats run that they will do things for blacks but they never do
repugs or democrats have no redeeming qualities is a very bias thing to say

[RandomGuy]

there is racism on both sides
democrats run that they will do things for blacks but they never do
repugs or democrats have no redeeming qualities is a very bias thing to say

Ok ducks.

What are Democrats' redeeming qualities?

[Trill Clinton]

lacks diversity :lol

Any black dude that's Republican has to put up with constantly being called an uncle Tom by other blacks.

Not true

[ducks]

Ok ducks.

What are Democrats' redeeming qualities?

name redeeming qualities about republicans

[UZER]

Not true

Sure

[UZER]

Fair criticism, to a point.

Collaborators have always come in for grief.

GOP dogwhistles and stances get awfully hard to explain without racism when pretty much all neo-nazis run as Republicans.

Not all White Republicans are racist.

Almost all white racists are Republican.

Why do you think that is?

You're an fool if you don't think Democrats have their fair share of racist.

[boutons_deux]

You're an fool if you don't think Democrats have their fair share of racist.

duh

but what RACIST policies do Dems pass?

what Dem policies are aimed at helping non-whites?


what Repug policies are aimed at helping non-whites, non-wealthy, non-BigCorp?

[monosylab1k]

name redeeming qualities about republicans

They know how to exploit stupid people.

[rjv]

https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13743368_498974590310299_1987002840_n.jpg

The interns do have some women. hand selected by the most perverse of the white mens club, i'm sure.

[RandomGuy]

name redeeming qualities about republicans
Way to dodge the question.

Fiscal Conservative streak.

Ok ducks. 2nd time. You bitched about bias when saying "There is no redeeming qualities". Boo-hoo and all that.

What are Democrats' redeeming qualities?

[DMC]

What's worst ducks? Being a racist or being a pedo who also likes to pee on them R Kelly style?

Reck and Philo, legriding Mono because they are bottom tier posters, the Vanilla Group.

[DMC]

Republicans ignore the fact that there is a strong streak of racism in the Republican party.

I will be happy to admit that Democrats can, and should do more.

The problem is that the Republicans not only don't act to further the interests of black people, they actively work to harm them, and this is obvious to all but the most brainwashed.
Everything you say is bullshit. By and large blacks are democrats, and even more than that they vote along racial lines (which is why Hillary didn't get the black voter turnout that Obama got).

Do you expect the GOP to force black people to join?

[rmt]

So all those Rust Belt whites weren't racist when they voted Obama/Democrat, but now they're racist because they voted Trump/Republican?

[Reck]

Reck and Philo, legriding Mono because they are bottom tier posters, the Vanilla Group.

What happened? Didn't meet your quota of people you needed to have arguments with on here?

Go argue with some grey or something uptairs, you fat faggot.

[ducks]

So all those Rust Belt whites weren't racist when they voted Obama/Democrat, but now they're racist because they voted Trump/Republican?

why did this not get answered now
oh wait is was the Russia facebook add that did it
it could not be that the Clinton did not run on issues just I am better then though trump

[Aztecfan03]

White dudes do make up like 30% of the population and 90% of the Republican party tbh

false

[Aztecfan03]

Truth hurts?

What truth?

[Aztecfan03]

You're an fool if you don't think Democrats have their fair share of racist.

probably more overall when you include minorities that are racist.

[Aztecfan03]

They know how to exploit stupid people.

He said Republicans, not Democrats.

[Quadzilla99]

false

Like people can't just check this :lol

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/wasserman-house-diversity-2.png?w=1150&h=465&quality=90&strip=info

[Quadzilla99]

Same thing in the Senate
http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/w_652/glfam5rxjeqrm1tztmim.jpg

[monosylab1k]

He said Republicans, not Democrats.

Holy shit you just went full PeeWee :lmao never go full PeeWee


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5UqUyFmT0

[monosylab1k]

Like people can't just check this :lol

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/wasserman-house-diversity-2.png?w=1150&h=465&quality=90&strip=info

:lmao another post they’ll pretend doesn’t exist

[RandomGuy]

Everything you say is bullshit. By and large blacks are democrats, and even more than that they vote along racial lines (which is why Hillary didn't get the black voter turnout that Obama got).

Do you expect the GOP to force black people to join?

Everything I say is "bullshit."

I see you have me in the crushing grip of reason. :rolleyes

Don't strain yourself fleshing out your argument, I would hate for you to pull a muscle.

Of course blacks vote along racial lines. The Republican party at almost all levels shits all over blacks in this country every chance they get. "welfare queens" "thugs" "all lives matter", etc.

Republican rank and file make it about race all the time and cause black people to not really have much of a choice.

cause --> effect

Not really that hard, especially if one takes an objective look at the evidence.

[RandomGuy]

false

http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/1-the-changing-composition-of-the-political-parties/


The composition of Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters has also grown somewhat more diverse over the last 24 years, though the pace of change lags behind that of the country overall and
the [Republican] party remains overwhelmingly white.
In 1992, 93% of Republican voters were white; that share has declined somewhat to
86% today.
The share of Hispanic voters in the GOP has edged up from 3% to 6%. There has been no increase in the share of Republicans who are black; blacks made up 2% of all Republican voters in 1992 and make the same share of all GOP registered voters today.

[DMC]

Everything I say is "bullshit."

I see you have me in the crushing grip of reason. :rolleyes

Don't strain yourself fleshing out your argument, I would hate for you to pull a muscle.

Of course blacks vote along racial lines. The Republican party at almost all levels shits all over blacks in this country every chance they get. "welfare queens" "thugs" "all lives matter", etc.

Republican rank and file make it about race all the time and cause black people to not really have much of a choice.

cause --> effect

Not really that hard, especially if one takes an objective look at the evidence.

Racial lines.. not party lines. No black, no vote.

[Aztecfan03]

http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/1-the-changing-composition-of-the-political-parties/

Proving my point. You really think all of that 86% is men?

[Quadzilla99]

Proving my point. You really think all of that 86% is men?

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/wasserman-house-diversity-2.png?w=1150&h=465&quality=90&strip=info

[DMC]

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/enten-nonvoters-2.png

[Quadzilla99]

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/enten-nonvoters-2.png

Black women had the highest turnout of any group in 2008 and 2012 and second highest in 2016. They get out and voteso another irrelevant point by you

[cd021]

Paul Oman
Humboldt State/UHCLC
trump won the majority of white women. How does she explain that? You could say that women elected trump..

This kind of race talk wasn't an issue for the past 60 years unitl the obama's brought it back

So race wasn't an issue during the 1960's or anytime before 2008?:lol

[DMC]

Black women had the highest turnout of any group in 2008 and 2012 and second highest in 2016. They get out and voteso another irrelevant point by you

Argue with the same website you referenced. It's their data.

[Quadzilla99]

Argue with the same website you referenced. It's their data.

What is your point here itt?

[DMC]

What is your point here itt?

That the reason the GOP is in power is because the black voter turnout was so low because Hillary is white. The blacks didn't turn out for the dems. Ergo percentage doesn't seem to matter, only skin color of the candidate.

Politics isn't just the GOP. If people don't trust the GOP, don't vote for them. Oddly they won.

[pgardn]

That the reason the GOP is in power is because the black voter turnout was so low because Hillary is white. The blacks didn't turn out for the dems. Ergo percentage doesn't seem to matter, only skin color of the candidate.

Politics isn't just the GOP. If people don't trust the GOP, don't vote for them. Oddly they won.

So why did Blacks turn out in numbers for Dollar Bill?

[DMC]

So why did Blacks turn out in numbers for Dollar Bill?

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/11144820/FT_17.05.10_Voter-turnout.png

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/12095515/FT_17.05.10_Voter-turnout_whites3.png

Point out in the data where a higher percentage of blacks voted during Bill's campaign than during Hillary's.

[DMC]

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/17102650/FT_17.05.12_VoterTurnout_Millennialnew.png

[pgardn]

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/11144820/FT_17.05.10_Voter-turnout.png

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/05/12095515/FT_17.05.10_Voter-turnout_whites3.png

Point out in the data where a higher percentage of blacks voted during Bill's campaign than during Hillary's.

Bill's first year brought everyone out. You see a steady increase in Blacks participating except his second term in which all people stayed home. 1996 was uninteresting. Even Bush brought participation. Then the dive for Hillary. There ya go.

[Spurminator]

A small decline in black voting would have still been okay if not compounded by targeted voter suppression. But much easier to blame the blacks for not working harder, and to call them the racists, as usual.

[DMC]

A small decline in black voting would have still been okay if not compounded by targeted voter suppression. But much easier to blame the blacks for not working harder, and to call them the racists, as usual.

Well the data is right there. Argue with that.

[DMC]

Bill's first year brought everyone out. You see a steady increase in Blacks participating except his second term in which all people stayed home. 1996 was uninteresting. Even Bush brought participation. Then the dive for Hillary. There ya go.

I'm still looking for you to back up your leading question to prove that it has any merit.

[Spurminator]

Well the data is right there. Argue with that.

I'm explaining the data. No need to argue with it.

[pgardn]

I'm still looking for you to back up your leading question to prove that it has any merit.

You read data in a vacuum, you get no real analysis.
Sorry. If you can't see the largest negative slope on your graph in what was an upward trend I can't help you.

[DMC]

You read data in a vacuum, you get no real analysis.
Sorry. If you can't see the largest negative slope on your graph in what was an upward trend I can't help you.

Hillary had a greater turnout of black voters than did Bill. So your point is moot. Reload and try again.

[DMC]

I'm explaining the data. No need to argue with it.

Where is your evidence for targeted voter suppression?

You aren't very bright. You seem to not have a firm understanding of data.

[pgardn]

Hillary had a greater turnout of black voters than did Bill. So your point is moot. Reload and try again.

You understand my analysis.
What was the black voter turnout after 1870 and the 15 th amendment?

[Spurminator]

You aren't very bright. You seem to not have a firm understanding of data.

:lol
Trust me, I do understand data. But it looks like you don't, so let me explain to you the difference between qualitative and quantitative data.

Your graphs show a lower black turnout percentage in 2016 vs. 2008 and 2012. We do not disagree on the data in those graphs. This is called quantitative data because it's simply about the numbers. If your only claim was that blacks had lower voter turnout in 2016, you'd be doing a-okay.

But your claim in this thread has been that blacks voted in lower numbers in 2016 because Hillary is white. That's not a claim that can be supported by quantitative data alone. You have yet to show a single graph that shows *why* black turnout in 2016 was lower than 2012 or 2008. For that, you need qualitative data that speaks to voter rationale and motivation. Do you have any surveys showing a majority of black respondents stayed home because there wasn't a black candidate on the ballot?

Until you show that, your statement is debatable, and your posturing is laughable.

This Statistics 101 lesson has been presented free of charge.


Where is your evidence for targeted voter suppression?

https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/3-6-700x467.jpg
http://www.sunherald.com/latest-news/1vfikf/picture60535346/alternates/FREE_640/0216_bilo_VOTER_ID%202.jpg
http://www.insight-us.org/images/custom_images/NC_BLACK_EFFECTORS_THRU_10_28.png

https://www.scribd.com/document/347821649/Priorities-USA-Voter-Suppression-Memo

[DMC]

:lol

Across the board, turnout decreased more between 2012 and 2016 in counties with higher population percentages of African Americans, but this drop-off in participation was amplified in states that changed voter-ID laws, and was most pronounced in states that changed voter ID laws to strict.

Of course any law that requires you to prove your identity is going to prevent people who cannot prove their identity from participating. Driving is a good example of that. However as your linky says, turnout decreased in counties with higher population percentages of African Americans (regardless of the ID law).

Try again

[Spurminator]

:lol

Across the board, turnout decreased more between 2012 and 2016 in counties with higher population percentages of African Americans, but this drop-off in participation was amplified in states that changed voter-ID laws, and was most pronounced in states that changed voter ID laws to strict.
I think you maybe meant to bold this part. Fixed it for you.


Of course any law that requires you to prove your identity is going to prevent people who cannot prove their identity from participating.

Exactly.


However as your linky says, turnout decreased in counties with higher population percentages of African Americans (regardless of the ID law).

You didn't ask for evidence that some of the impact to black turnout was unrelated to voter suppression, and I never claimed it was 100% of the reason. The paragraph you quoted specifically shows that voted ID laws impacted the black vote. That's what you asked for.

So what's your point here?


Try again

I'm good. Your turn to provide evidence to your qualitative argument.

[DMC]

I think you maybe meant to bold this part. Fixed it for you.



Exactly.

So anyone should be able to walk in an vote without proving who they are and somehow this affects only black people? :lol


You didn't ask for evidence that some of the impact to black turnout was unrelated to voter suppression, and I never claimed it was 100% of the reason. The paragraph you quoted specifically shows that voted ID laws impacted the black vote. That's what you asked for.

There are reasons people don't turn out. You just picked "prove who you are" and called it voter suppression to fit your narrative. I suppose flier suppression is because you're required to provide ID when going through the security gates?


So what's your point here?
I'm good. Your turn to provide evidence to your qualitative argument.

I already made my point. I don't need to restate it when you haven't proven your rebuttal holds any water (voter suppression).

Blacks vote for black issues, not national issues. Things like incarceration rates (without regard to crime rate), unsafe neighborhoods (without regard to who is making it unsafe) and what they see as employment inequality (regardless whether they show up to work or even look for a job).

Basically they didn't get excited about Hillary because they shot their wad with Obama who did nothing for them but usher in the "black lives matter" facade.

Obviously not every black falls into this category but since the "black vote" is such an homogeneous sounding concept, I'm not the one who coined it and yet here it is.

[RandomGuy]

Well the data is right there. Argue with that.

How much of the decline in minority voting was due to voter suppression?

[DMC]

How much of the decline in minority voting was due to voter suppression?

It's your row to hoe, bro. You made the claim.

[Quadzilla99]

That the reason the GOP is in power is because the black voter turnout was so low because Hillary is white. The blacks didn't turn out for the dems. Ergo percentage doesn't seem to matter, only skin color of the candidate.

Politics isn't just the GOP. If people don't trust the GOP, don't vote for them. Oddly they won.

The point to me is why doesn't the GOP have anyone but white men for the most part. You always claim to not be racist shouldn't it concern that you fail among every single minority group and run almost nothing but white men for your main positions? I mean if I was republican I would be annoyed about that

[DMC]

The point to me is why doesn't the GOP have anyone but white men for the most part. You always claim to not be racist shouldn't it concern that you fail among every single minority group and run almost nothing but white men for your main positions? I mean if I was republican I would be annoyed about that


Are you a white man?

Did you know I voted for Obama 2 times?

I am not registered to either party. People who think along party lines are retarded fucks. You claim to not be racist. Why do you hate white men?

[RandomGuy]

It's your row to hoe, bro. You made the claim.

Been looking to see what evidence is out there. Best article so far is an Atlantic article in terms of data.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/how-voter-id-laws-discriminate-study/517218/

The proliferation of increasingly strict voter identification laws around the country has raised
concerns about voter suppression and inequality. Although there are lots of reasons to suspect
that these laws could harm groups like racial minorities and the poor, existing studies have
generally failed to demonstrate a link between voter ID laws and voter turnout among these
groups. We question these null effects. We argue that because most of the studies occurred
before states enacted the strictest photo identification requirements, they tend to uncover few
effects. Focusing on the validated vote in recent elections using the Cooperative Congressional
Election Study we are able to offer a more definitive test. The analysis shows that strict photo
identification laws have a differentially negative impact on the turnout of Hispanics, Blacks, and
mixed-race Americans in primaries and general elections. Voter ID laws skew democracy in
favor of whites and those on the political right..”
http://pages.ucsd.edu/~zhajnal/page5/documents/voterIDhajnaletal.pdf


Circumstantial evidence for this is that the Republican party is the one pushing these laws, and cutting back polling places in areas likely to vote Democratic.

You have public statements from GOP leaders saying that such laws were responsible for tilting some places in favor of GOP presidential candidates.

If only one party is pushing for a law affecting voting, is that law more, or less likely to help that party?

[RandomGuy]

:lol

Across the board, turnout decreased more between 2012 and 2016 in counties with higher population percentages of African Americans, but this drop-off in participation was amplified in states that changed voter-ID laws, and was most pronounced in states that changed voter ID laws to strict.

Of course any law that requires you to prove your identity is going to prevent people who cannot prove their identity from participating. Driving is a good example of that. However as your linky says, turnout decreased in counties with higher population percentages of African Americans (regardless of the ID law).

Try again

Do you even read the whole sentence? Jeeez.

[RandomGuy]

It's your row to hoe, bro. You made the claim.

If you want to claim that the decline was for some other reason, such as Hillary being white, that is your burden of proof.

Feel free to prove that.

[RandomGuy]

:lol
Trust me, I do understand data. But it looks like you don't, so let me explain to you the difference between qualitative and quantitative data.

Your graphs show a lower black turnout percentage in 2016 vs. 2008 and 2012. We do not disagree on the data in those graphs. This is called quantitative data because it's simply about the numbers. If your only claim was that blacks had lower voter turnout in 2016, you'd be doing a-okay.

But your claim in this thread has been that blacks voted in lower numbers in 2016 because Hillary is white. That's not a claim that can be supported by quantitative data alone. You have yet to show a single graph that shows *why* black turnout in 2016 was lower than 2012 or 2008. For that, you need qualitative data that speaks to voter rationale and motivation. Do you have any surveys showing a majority of black respondents stayed home because there wasn't a black candidate on the ballot?

Until you show that, your statement is debatable, and your posturing is laughable.

This Statistics 101 lesson has been presented free of charge.



https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/3-6-700x467.jpg
http://www.sunherald.com/latest-news/1vfikf/picture60535346/alternates/FREE_640/0216_bilo_VOTER_ID%202.jpg
http://www.insight-us.org/images/custom_images/NC_BLACK_EFFECTORS_THRU_10_28.png

https://www.scribd.com/document/347821649/Priorities-USA-Voter-Suppression-Memo

Sums it up. Well-written and accurate. Kudos.

[RandomGuy]

Are you a white man?

Did you know I voted for Obama 2 times?

I am not registered to either party. People who think along party lines are retarded fucks. You claim to not be racist. Why do you hate white men?

Are both parties equal? People who think they are somehow equally bad are retarded, lazy fucks.

[DMC]

Been looking to see what evidence is out there. Best article so far is an Atlantic article in terms of data.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/how-voter-id-laws-discriminate-study/517218/

http://pages.ucsd.edu/~zhajnal/page5/documents/voterIDhajnaletal.pdf


Circumstantial evidence for this is that the Republican party is the one pushing these laws, and cutting back polling places in areas likely to vote Democratic.

You have public statements from GOP leaders saying that such laws were responsible for tilting some places in favor of GOP presidential candidates.

If only one party is pushing for a law affecting voting, is that law more, or less likely to help that party?

Come on man, you made the claim and now you're looking for data to support it? Shouldn't you be making data supported claims instead?

[DMC]

Do you even read the whole sentence? Jeeez.

Of course I read it, but the 1st sentence supported what I said, that black turnout was worse for this election than for both of the Obama elections. "Across the board" rules out carryover from states with voter ID law changes.

The rest is just "ya but".

So my point remains and seems to have eluded you and a few others - Hillary lost because her black constituents didn't show up for her. For that reason, why does it matter what the GOP color spectrum looks like?

[DMC]

Are both parties equal? People who think they are somehow equally bad are retarded, lazy fucks.

They are equally bad. That's why they have dinners together and vacation together but not with you and I.

[RandomGuy]

[both parties] are equally bad.

By what metric?

One party consistently fields all sorts of people who think various scientific findings are conspiracy theories, the other... doesn't.

[koriwhat]

democrats are all men too... right michael, i mean michelle.

[DMC]

By what metric?

One party consistently fields all sorts of people who think various scientific findings are conspiracy theories, the other... doesn't.

Since you think morality is objective, I'd say by that one.

[RandomGuy]

Since you think morality is objective, I'd say by that one.

I think you can get a fairly objective morality, when based on well-being.

So you don't really have any metric then. You just think it is true, because it must be true.

A type of circular reasoning? Do I have that right?

[DMC]

I think you can get a fairly objective morality, when based on well-being.

So you don't really have any metric then. You just think it is true, because it must be true.

A type of circular reasoning? Do I have that right?
There's no such as "fairly objective". That's like being "fairly pregnant". It's either objective or it's not. "Objective" isn't a marker on the bias meter.

[DMC]

Also, "bad" is a subjective term in these discussions so a metric isn't required. We aren't talking about widgets coming off an assembly line with a go/no-go standard.

[RandomGuy]

There's no such as "fairly objective". That's like being "fairly pregnant". It's either objective or it's not. "Objective" isn't a marker on the bias meter.

Ok, how about "as objective as possible"?

[RandomGuy]

Also, "bad" is a subjective term in these discussions so a metric isn't required. We aren't talking about widgets coming off an assembly line with a go/no-go standard.

Okaaaaay, so on what basis do you say that both parties are "equally bad"?

[DMC]

Ok, how about "as objective as possible"?

You're using the term loosely, like saying "it's just a theory, not a law".

Something that's an objective truth isn't an effort. It just is.

[DMC]

Okaaaaay, so on what basis do you say that both parties are "equally bad"?

Because I hate both of them about the same. I voted for Obama twice, but voted for Bush over Gore and Kerry. This time around I could not bring myself to vote for either candidate without vomiting in my mouth a little.

[RandomGuy]

Because I hate both of them about the same. I voted for Obama twice, but voted for Bush over Gore and Kerry. This time around I could not bring myself to vote for either candidate without vomiting in my mouth a little.

One party has lost its effing mind. One hasn't.

It really is that simple.

You can hate them both, but you can't tell me that they are both equally bad, because that is some false equivalence bullshit by just about any metric I can think of.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/grassley2-800x430.png

This is what they have to do these days to avoid answering questions. :rollin

[DMC]

One party has lost its effing mind. One hasn't.

It really is that simple.

You can hate them both, but you can't tell me that they are both equally bad, because that is some false equivalence bullshit by just about any metric I can think of.

The left ran Hillary and funnel the money to her, backdooring Bernie in the process. I'd say both parties have lost their minds - one for not being able to keep a finger on the American pulse and the other for putting that finger in their own assholes.

[RandomGuy]

The left ran Hillary and funnel the money to her, backdooring Bernie in the process. I'd say both parties have lost their minds - one for not being able to keep a finger on the American pulse and the other for putting that finger in their own assholes.

Ok, fair enough.

What can the Democrats do to earn your vote consistently then?

[DarrinS]

One party has lost its effing mind. One hasn't.

It really is that simple.

You can hate them both, but you can't tell me that they are both equally bad, because that is some false equivalence bullshit by just about any metric I can think of.


:lmao


We’re going on a full year of


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[Pavlov]

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[DarrinS]

Nazis and Russians around every corner!

[Pavlov]

Nazis and Russians around every corner!Antifa and blacks.

[RandomGuy]

Nazis and Russians around every corner!

Antifa and blacks.

Well played.

[RandomGuy]

Nazis and Russians around every corner!

Speaking of Russians:

Here is what they want you to be talking about now:

Brazille
Warren-Trump spat
http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/


Get to it.

Dance, marionetka, dance.