View Full Version : Kyle anderson is the key to being able to compete for a championship
rastaspur
10-06-2017, 05:43 PM
The way I see it, based on the current roster, kyle has to have a breakthrough year. Without that happening and assuming the roster stays the same, I don't think the spurs stand a legit chance.
Putting Bertans at the four is not a wise move in long stretches. He absolutely will crush the spurs from a rebounding perspective if he is a big.
If Bertans and rudy gay take on all of the small ball four minutes then this spurs team is going to be about as gimmicky and fools gold as the 2010 team which prominently featured Roger mason. Great regular season and just fell off in the playoffs.
I think kyle is the best fit as the small ball four and don't want kawhi manning that position for significant minutes. I think it is what's best for the team.
His rebounding is pretty good and he should be able to keep up with the speed of most fours or at least not get totally blown by.
I think paul, white and joffrey will contribute more than anticipated. If kyle can turn that corner and keep the spurs from falling off a cliff from a defensive rebounding perspective I think the spurs will pleasantly suprise folks this year and have a legit shot.
It's a big if but it's just how I see it shaking out.
Thoughts?
i guess we will see :lobt2:
The way I see it, based on the current roster, kyle has to have a breakthrough year. Without that happening and assuming the roster stays the same, I don't think the spurs stand a legit chance.
Putting Bertans at the four is not a wise move in long stretches. He absolutely will crush the spurs from a rebounding perspective if he is a big.
If Bertans and rudy gay take on all of the small ball four minutes then this spurs team is going to be about as gimmicky and fools gold as the 2010 team which prominently featured Roger mason. Great regular season and just fell off in the playoffs.
I think kyle is the best fit as the small ball four and don't want kawhi manning that position for significant minutes. I think it is what's best for the team.
His rebounding is pretty good and he should be able to keep up with the speed of most fours or at least not get totally blown by.
I think paul, white and joffrey will contribute more than anticipated. If kyle can turn that corner and keep the spurs from falling off a cliff from a defensive rebounding perspective I think the spurs will pleasantly suprise folks this year and have a legit shot.
It's a big if but it's just how I see it shaking out.
Thoughts? where do you have gay if you are putting kyle at the 4? just curious.
John Petrucci
10-06-2017, 06:17 PM
Makes sense. We know what Kyle is capable of. Him reaching his potential could make us pretty scary.
TD 21
10-06-2017, 06:19 PM
No non top 8 rotation player, "is the key to being able to compete for a championship". There is no key for any team outside of Warriors anyway (here's theirs: have core healthy and play somewhat close to potential), unless you count an unfathomable amount of opponent injury luck.
Gay is more than fine at PF, in most match-ups, especially the ones that matter most. Anderson is a slightly better defensive rebounder, but Gay is at least as tall, longer and stronger. Bertans won't play enough to have a significant effect.
Defensive rebounding is a concern, particularly against elites, when they'll be forced to play small, but whether they get bludgeoned or not mostly comes down to Aldridge, who with healthier knees, has to revert to '12-'16 rates.
Chinook
10-06-2017, 06:41 PM
Anderson or Gay need to play at a really high level (along with Murray or Parker). The Spurs need bona fide third and fourth scorers. It can't come from committees this year. They're also going to need elite defense for their whole rotation. Most of their issues lie in their terrible scheme and injury uncertainty.
Chinook
10-06-2017, 06:45 PM
Gay is more than fine at PF, in most match-ups, especially the ones that matter most. Anderson is a slightly better defensive rebounder, but Gay is at least as tall, longer and stronger. Bertans won't play enough to have a significant effect.
Anderson is longer than Gay. Dude has a 7-3 wingspan to Rudy's seven feet. I imagine Kyle isn't stronger, but I don't see that being a huge problem. He's strong enough and is just a better defender than Gay. Him getting a top-eight spot would be tough, but either he needs to bring his offense up to the level of his defense, or Gay needs to bring his D up to match his O. We're talking about guys who will have to go up and down the court with KD, Draymond and Klay if the Spurs get that far.
phxspurfan
10-06-2017, 06:47 PM
thread delivers
SAGirl
10-06-2017, 06:52 PM
Well obviously No. 1 is Kawhi,
No. 2 is still Lamarcus.
No. 3 is Rudy Gay.
No. 4.. guard rotation needs to be healthy. I'd say the Spurs probably do need Dejounte to grow up this season. They will need a guard to be ready when Tony gets injured in the playoffs or through the season again, and they need him right now to start and be solid. He's probably the most significant of the young players due to that factor. There are other guards that we may see through the season and hopefully they help out too, but they need something better from their guards than what they have gotten the past couple of seasons. It's been the Spurs' achilles heel.
Then I would bring up Kyle and Davis. It's too soon to say about the two of them. The main reason is that Pop appears to want to stay big a good amount and I would expect Rudy Gay to get dibs on any small lineups. The second reason is that we haven't seen the team with Kawhi and Rudy so we don't really know how Pop wants to play. Davis will get better looks when playing next to better players and he will make shots. But Kyle is possibly the most complete player of the two and should he be aggressive and lose his hesitation like he did in the playoffs he really could end up edging someone out for minutes. Too soon to say.
pad300
10-06-2017, 06:56 PM
You might be right. But we need more than just Kyle making a leap (or maybe just gets consistent playing time - he put up a WP48 of .250, behind only Kawhi and Dedmon last year). We also need a real starting PG. I like Patty, but he's a small SG. Either Parker gets back to form by the playoffs, or Dejounte steps up as well. Then we could make some noise. If everything breaks right, we can hang with nearly anyone playing small ball...
SAGirl
10-06-2017, 07:02 PM
No non top 8 rotation player, "is the key to being able to compete for a championship". There is no key for any team outside of Warriors anyway (here's theirs: have core healthy and play somewhat close to potential), unless you count an unfathomable amount of opponent injury luck.
Gay is more than fine at PF, in most match-ups, especially the ones that matter most. Anderson is a slightly better defensive rebounder, but Gay is at least as tall, longer and stronger. Bertans won't play enough to have a significant effect.
Defensive rebounding is a concern, particularly against elites, when they'll be forced to play small, but whether they get bludgeoned or not mostly comes down to Aldridge, who with healthier knees, has to revert to '12-'16 rates.
Anderson or Gay need to play at a really high level (along with Murray or Parker). The Spurs need bona fide third and fourth scorers. It can't come from committees this year. They're also going to need elite defense for their whole rotation. Most of their issues lie in their terrible scheme and injury uncertainty.
two good opinions each.
:toast
Chinook
10-06-2017, 07:02 PM
The Parker in the playoffs prior to injury is more than enough for that third scorer. They just need someone else who can go at the Warriors guys and get buckets one-on-one. That should be Gay. But if his injury hampers him, it probably needs to be Anderson. It would be nice if it were Pau, but come on.
ducks
10-06-2017, 07:12 PM
lma being a number 2 would go along way instead of a number 5
dabom
10-06-2017, 07:18 PM
This dude said he learns moves in a week or two. Why can't players? :lmao
Truth4sale$
10-06-2017, 07:28 PM
Kyle I belief will take a leap forward, mainly due the Spurs lack of size, should allow him to see the floor more. Of course, a contract year always seems to encourage guys to play better. As the league and players become positionless, Kyle needs a position to be successful. I would like him to bulk up more, and be a true power forward. Imagine the possibility with his IQ, passing/dribbling ability. With all that said, he has to be aggressive and look for & take his shot. The greatest loss of jonathan simmoms was his aggressiveness, and that is what Kyle has to show.
Also, guard play will be vital. The Spurs may have the worse starting backcourt of "true title contenders". Nobody has that ability with the exception of Dejounte to take guys off the dribble and attack the basket. Ginobili/parker maybe willing but their age is a factor. I saw Paul in the Sacramento game just shooting jumpers, Duanne Hillard did attack the basket but he is just a two way player and really won't play much. White was no different from Paul. So good luck with the guard play.
Leetonidas
10-06-2017, 07:48 PM
Lolwut. If that's the case were completely fucked :lol
RD2191
10-06-2017, 08:52 PM
Lolwut. If that's the case were completely fucked :lol
TBH
ElNono
10-06-2017, 08:56 PM
it's puff puff pass
SAGirl
10-06-2017, 09:48 PM
The Parker in the playoffs prior to injury is more than enough for that third scorer. They just need someone else who can go at the Warriors guys and get buckets one-on-one. That should be Gay. But if his injury hampers him, it probably needs to be Anderson. It would be nice if it were Pau, but come on.
Joff has looked good in preseason.
Gay may take a month or maybe a couple to find his game. Pop doesn't know yet if he will play the 4. He didn't play it in the preseason game which I found interesting.
TheGreatYacht
10-06-2017, 11:47 PM
Marijuana is a gateway drug that can lead junkies to crack. Op is proof
YGWHI
10-07-2017, 01:01 AM
I like this article about Pop's options with with Kyle, Gay, and Davis at 4.
https://www.theringer.com/2017/10/5/16424466/san-antonio-gregg-popovich-still-good-preview
duncan2k5
10-07-2017, 01:49 AM
Lmfao!
daledondale
10-07-2017, 03:12 AM
Joke of the year so far.
r0drig0lac
10-07-2017, 10:45 AM
funny
skulls138
10-07-2017, 12:08 PM
KAs got such a weird set of skills, hes either a PG or a PF. Ideally I think hes a very tall PG because of his passing but I agree he is a key to our success.
TheGreatYacht
10-07-2017, 12:14 PM
Kyle. Anderson. Is. A. Below. Average. Passer.
Jesus Christ, where did this myth come from? Folks act like he's Shaun Livingston or something. His assists per game, per 36, per possession speak for themselves. He can't score and he can't pass.
The only time he 'passes' is when his 1 mile per hour slomo crossover fails and he has to pass out to a contested player in the perimeter.
Kyle. Anderson. Is. A. Below. Average. Passer.
Jesus Christ, where did this myth come from? Folks act like he's Shaun Livingston or something. His assists per game, per 36, per possession speak for themselves. He can't score and he can't pass.
The only time he 'passes' is when his 1 mile per hour slomo crossover fails and he has to pass out to a contested player in the perimeter.
point taken.....i have been doing my best to stay out of any thread that i wasnt in...i couldnt help looking here
i hope now everything is 100% clear with everybody
---just in case i need to say it again----
No intentions be a regular poster / big personality here
- weekly at most ...can it just die now?
tonight...you
10-07-2017, 02:24 PM
point taken.....i have been doing my best to stay out of any thread that i wasnt in...i couldnt help looking here
i hope now everything is 100% clear with everybody
---just in case i need to say it again----
No intentions be a regular poster / big personality here
- weekly at most ...can it just die now?
Okay, just what the hell is going on with you? Responding, personally, to posts that aren't remotely about you...
You've said you're going to take a hiatus how many times already?'
You're ability to create coherent sentences is so low, I'm wondering if English is your second language, or if you're blistering drunk when you type.
And you seem to believe this board gives a screw worm about you, as a whole.
You are one of the weirdest posters I have ever seen on this board.
TD 21
10-07-2017, 04:34 PM
Anderson is longer than Gay. Dude has a 7-3 wingspan to Rudy's seven feet. I imagine Kyle isn't stronger, but I don't see that being a huge problem. He's strong enough and is just a better defender than Gay. Him getting a top-eight spot would be tough, but either he needs to bring his offense up to the level of his defense, or Gay needs to bring his D up to match his O. We're talking about guys who will have to go up and down the court with KD, Draymond and Klay if the Spurs get that far.
Gay's wingspan is 7'3'', Anderson's wingspan is 7'2.75''. Point is, their measurements are about the same, so the notion that one is more suited to play PF than the other, doesn't make sense. In most match-ups, they should both be fine at PF and the ones they won't be, Spurs can either play bigger or not leave them on an island. Either way, it's not a concern.
Even if Anderson outplays Gay, the latter will have a bigger role, especially when it matters most, the same way it was with Lee and Dedmon.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rudy-Gay-34/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kyle-Anderson-6177/
coachmac87
10-07-2017, 04:58 PM
Not at all...
Tony Parker is
coachmac87
10-07-2017, 05:03 PM
Kyle. Anderson. Is. A. Below. Average. Passer.
Jesus Christ, where did this myth come from? Folks act like he's Shaun Livingston or something. His assists per game, per 36, per possession speak for themselves. He can't score and he can't pass.
The only time he 'passes' is when his 1 mile per hour slomo crossover fails and he has to pass out to a contested player in the perimeter.
How many times does KA run the PNR?? Those numbers are skewed and doesn't take that into circumstance
SAGirl
10-07-2017, 05:13 PM
Not at all...
Tony Parker is
Good point coach. Aside from the obvious I had Dejounte as the most significant youngster due to Tony's injury and recent playoffs injury history.
coachmac87
10-07-2017, 05:17 PM
Good point coach. Aside from the obvious I had Dejounte as the most significant youngster due to Tony's injury and recent playoffs injury history.
I mean Murray has the opportunity and the best tools to make the biggest impact.but I don't trust him.
What's sad is can you name a healthy Spur on the roster who can penetrate and finish at the rim consistently?
SAGirl
10-07-2017, 05:29 PM
I mean Murray has the opportunity and the best tools to make the biggest impact.but I don't trust him.
What's sad is can you name a healthy Spur on the roster who can penetrate and finish at the rim consistently?
He can get there but not finish consistently that's his issue. He can and will improve. We just don't know how long that will take. Joff has been surprising.
IMO Rudy will still need to be better... we shall see how he comes along. Kawhi is definitely the star who will carry the biggest burden.
coachmac87
10-07-2017, 05:38 PM
He can get there but not finish consistently that's his issue. He can and will improve. We just don't know how long that will take. Joff has been surprising.
IMO Rudy will still need to be better... we shall see how he comes along. Kawhi is definitely the star who will carry the biggest burden.
Murrays game will take off once he gets a midrange game..just like Parker. Parker became elite once he got a jumpe and teams couldn't constantly go under screens.
Murray is good at penetrating but he's not "elite" in that category like Parker was..kid has a long way to go
SAGirl
10-07-2017, 05:53 PM
Murrays game will take off once he gets a midrange game..just like Parker. Parker became elite once he got a jumpe and teams couldn't constantly go under screens.
Murray is good at penetrating but he's not "elite" in that category like Parker was..kid has a long way to go
Agreed. He's not going to be a star this season and one doesn't know how he will develop. It may take longer or not, but he certainly doesn't look like he can shoot right now. He will need to be solid at everything else though. Much as you don't trust Dijon, I don't trust Tony to remain healthy, though I'd be happy to be wrong. The team also features a lot more cutting than previously. We shall see. For all my pessimism inn the summer, the start of the season makes every team a contender for every team's fan.
SAGirl
10-07-2017, 06:45 PM
I like this article about Pop's options with with Kyle, Gay, and Davis at 4.
https://www.theringer.com/2017/10/5/16424466/san-antonio-gregg-popovich-still-good-preview
That's a good article from them.
Here's a good and funny one too. https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/6/16424566/san-antonio-spurs-preview-2017
TheDoctor
10-07-2017, 07:15 PM
Okay, just what the hell is going on with you? Responding, personally, to posts that aren't remotely about you...
You've said you're going to take a hiatus how many times already?'
You're ability to create coherent sentences is so low, I'm wondering if English is your second language, or if you're blistering drunk when you type.
And you seem to believe this board gives a screw worm about you, as a whole.
You are one of the weirdest posters I have ever seen on this board.
C'mon man. You're veteran here :lol If he is what he says he is, English gotta be his 7th language. Other than that you must know what he is.
tonight...you
10-07-2017, 10:38 PM
C'mon man. You're veteran here :lol If he is what he says he is, English gotta be his 7th language. Other than that you must know what he is.
I should know better... but me no know so well sumtimes.
I still think KBP was a legit poster...
duncan2k5
10-08-2017, 05:16 AM
I dont trust Tony, healthy or not... Ppl forgot how many playoff games he has completely fallen off the map and let us down... Plus his inability to penetrate at his current age is why the good teams beat us... We can't break down defenses and create open shots or mismatches... Dj is a game changer and much better for us at this point than tony
Russo21
10-08-2017, 08:20 AM
Then we are fucked.
But no, he is not.
rastaspur
10-09-2017, 05:21 PM
Then we are fucked.
But no, he is not.
I think we are fucked tbh..... that's how my mind even gets to this post.
I just hate the roster and without kyle having a breakout year while getting alot of minutes at the four I don't think the spurs have a snowballs chance in hell.
It's a gigantic if. Rudy gay at the four will be a nightmare defensively imo. Kyle should be better defensively and rebound better as well.
To be clear, my post is not a ringing endorsement of anderson but more of a pessimists view trying to grab at straws of encouragement if kyle can step it up. It's a huge if.
TheGreatYacht
10-09-2017, 05:39 PM
Fathead has started in 33 games, during those games he averaged 6ppg, 5rpg, and 2apg in 26mpg.
He fucking sucks and OP can't help but to shitpost.
duncan2k5
10-09-2017, 06:28 PM
Fathead has started in 33 games, during those games he averaged 6ppg, 5rpg, and 2apg in 26mpg.
He fucking sucks and OP can't help but to shitpost.
He really does suck... I dont get the infatuation
JohnnyMax
12-15-2017, 04:10 PM
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