White House links border wall, green card overhaul to DACA

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-proposals-includes-changes-green-card-system-230350571--politics.html

USA USA USA USA

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Trash will to HURT DACA Dreamers by deporting them by trying to shakedown Congress for his stupid wall

Trump demands border wall, visa changes as part of immigration fix

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he would not consider reinstating an immigration program that protected young people from deportation without a commitment from Democrats to help build a wall on the border with Mexico and end certain immigration programs.

Democrats have pushed for DACA to continue, but Trump, a Republican, has said that will not happen without the end to various visa programs and the construction of a wall along the southern U.S. border.

“The Democrats have been told, and fully understand, that

there can be no DACA without the desperately needed WALL at the Southern Border

and an END to the horrible Chain Migration & ridiculous Lottery System of Immigration etc,” Trump posted on Twitter on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration/trump-demands-border-wall-visa-changes-as-part-of-immigration-fix-idUSKBN1EN1DJ

Trash pandering to his KKK/racist/xenophobic base and dozens of Aryan Nazi white supremacist Spurstalkers, as dictated by Bannon, Miller, GorKKKa.

[spurraider21]

the lottery thing is kinda bogus imo... though gutting "chain migration" is insane. i'd prefer new immigrants to have family here that i know can take care of them, watch over them, help them assimilate/adjust, etc.

family petition is what allowed my parents to come over, my wife's family, etc.

[rmt]

the lottery thing is kinda bogus imo... though gutting "chain migration" is insane. i'd prefer new immigrants to have family here that i know can take care of them, watch over them, help them assimilate/adjust, etc.

family petition is what allowed my parents to come over, my wife's family, etc.

How do you know that the family here can take care of them? The whole point of a merit system is that you KNOW they can (are choosing those who can) take care of themselves, already know English and don't need watching over but will contribute to the US immediately and not drain our educational/social systems. Under family migration, some never assimilate/adjust - case in point - my hairdresser still can't speak English after decades here - she doesn't need to learn in Miami.

[Pavlov]

How do you know that the family here can take care of them? The whole point of a merit system is that you KNOW they can (are choosing those who can) take care of themselves, already know English and don't need watching over but will contribute to the US immediately and not drain our educational/social systems. Under family migration, some never assimilate/adjust - case in point - my hairdresser still can't speak English after decades here - she doesn't need to learn in Miami.Is your hairdresser a drain on society?

[spurraider21]

How do you know that the family here can take care of them? The whole point of a merit system is that youKNOW they can (are choosing those who can) take care of themselves, already know English and don't need watching over but will contribute to the US immediately and not drain our educational/social systems. Under family migration, some never assimilate/adjust - case in point - my hairdresser still can't speak English after decades here - she doesn't need to learn in Miami.
im sure your hairdresser is ruining this country

a lot of people around the world still see the US as a beacon of hope. people struggling in impoverished countries still see the US as a chance to make something of themselves. imo being a safe haven/land of opportunity is part of the american spirit/lore. i mean sure, we could choose to go in a different direction, but you'd be abandoning what makes the US the US

i would probably be living in a shitty country like armenia were it not for family petition based immigration, so yeah i have some personal sympathy towards it.

[rmt]

im sure your hairdresser is ruining this country

a lot of people around the world still see the US as a beacon of hope. people struggling in impoverished countries still see the US as a chance to make something of themselves. imo being a safe haven/land of opportunity is part of the american spirit/lore. i mean sure, we could choose to go in a different direction, but you'd be abandoning what makes the US the US

Maybe it's time we think about OUR immigration system in terms of what benefits OUR country and not what benefits the whole rest of the world who would flood this country if allowed - you know, the way Canada and Australia do.

[ElNono]

Even for family-based immigration, the petitioner is the sponsor and has to show economic solvency. The biggest issue with the legal immigration system is that most americans have no idea how it works.

[ElNono]

Maybe it's time we think about OUR immigration system in terms of what benefits OUR country and not what benefits the whole rest of the world who would flood this country if allowed - you know, the way Canada and Australia do.

If that's the case, then why change anything? Didn't this system made America the best country in the world? Heck, the diversity lottery has been going on since 1990.

[rmt]

Even for family-based immigration, the petitioner is the sponsor and has to show economic solvency. The biggest issue with the legal immigration system is that most americans have no idea how it works.

So does economic solvency involve legal/financial responsibility for every adult sibling, parent or relative who the petitioner sponsors and if so, for how long?

[spurraider21]

Even for family-based immigration, the petitioner is the sponsor and has to show economic solvency. The biggest issue with the legal immigration system is that most americans have no idea how it works.
why do you use that line almost every time you respond to rmt? i dont appreciate the dog whistling going on tbh

as for the rest, yeah. my wife was on a family petition for years but that system is so backlogged and slowed now that it was advised she start from scratch and she's currently doing a one-step petition through our marriage. even there i have to submit paperwork evidencing economic solvency, otherwise we'd have to have an affidavit of support from other family too.

the whole thing's a mess right now and things have slowed to a crawl. our immigration attorney said one-step petitions were usually approved within 6 months on average, now she's saying they have cases that have dragged on for over a year with no red flags to really tell us why... it sucks because permanent residency is required for most med school apps and the pool of international students admitted is negligible

[rmt]

why do you use that line almost every time you respond to rmt? i dont appreciate the dog whistling going on tbh

as for the rest, yeah. my wife was on a family petition for years but that system is so backlogged and slowed now that it was advised she start from scratch and she's currently doing a one-step petition through our marriage. even there i have to submit paperwork evidencing economic solvency, otherwise we'd have to have an affidavit of support from other family too.

the whole thing's a mess right now and things have slowed to a crawl. our immigration attorney said one-step petitions were usually approved within 6 months on average, now she's saying they have cases that have dragged on for over a year with no red flags to really tell us why... it sucks because permanent residency is required for most med school apps and the pool of international students admitted is negligible

BTW, I'm for immediate family (spouse and minor children - basically relationships claimed on a tax return) but not extended family or else where does it end? Med apps start in June, right? If you applied when you got married, couple months? back, you should be okay if it's 6 months but reaching if a year. Good luck.

[spurraider21]

BTW, I'm for immediate family (spouse and minor children - basically relationships claimed on a tax return) but not extended family or else where does it end? Med apps start in June, right? If you applied when you got married, couple months? back, you should be okay if it's 6 months but reaching if a year. Good luck.
yeah we got it out early october. 6 months would put us at april, so we have a little cushion. problem is the 6 month estimate no longer seems applicable under the new administration due to cutbacks.

[rmt]

If that's the case, then why change anything? Didn't this system made America the best country in the world? Heck, the diversity lottery has been going on since 1990.

I don't know if what made America the best country in the world (economically) is necessarily its immigration system (more likely the world wars) but certainly not a system from as recent as 1990. And yes, for the IDEALS, it's been the best for a long time. But that American Dream which was alive in 1990 is not necessarily there now. My dh and I had it coming out of college in the early 80s and I don't think my kids have it now graduating in the late 2010s-20s (note that it's not all to do with immigration).

[ElNono]

So does economic solvency involve legal/financial responsibility for every adult sibling, parent or relative who the petitioner sponsors and if so, for how long?

At the very least 3 years, which is how long it takes to go from a green card to citizenship. In reality it’s longer, since the citizenship process takes 6+ months itself, plus not everyone qualifies for 3 years (sometimes its 5 years)

[ElNono]

why do you use that line almost every time you respond to rmt? i dont appreciate the dog whistling going on tbh

as for the rest, yeah. my wife was on a family petition for years but that system is so backlogged and slowed now that it was advised she start from scratch and she's currently doing a one-step petition through our marriage. even there i have to submit paperwork evidencing economic solvency, otherwise we'd have to have an affidavit of support from other family too.

the whole thing's a mess right now and things have slowed to a crawl. our immigration attorney said one-step petitions were usually approved within 6 months on average, now she's saying they have cases that have dragged on for over a year with no red flags to really tell us why... it sucks because permanent residency is required for most med school apps and the pool of international students admitted is negligible

We filled up and sent the forms manually, tbh, no lawyer. Took a year for the green card, then after 3 years, about 6 months for the citizenship. The fees involved were already upwards of 1k, but I don’t know what they’re now.