ISIS Fighters, Having Pledged to Fight or Die, Surrender en Masse

[SnakeBoy]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/isis-fighters-having-pledged-to-fight-or-die-surrender-en-masse/ar-AAt4LxY?OCID=ansmsnnews11

[DMC]

These are just really poor people with fucked up religious ideology. They aren't fighters.

[Down Under]

They're finished. SAA & Russia have virtually wiped them out of Syria & they'll be gone soon enough from Iraq.

[Reck]

They're finished. SAA & Russia have virtually wiped them out of Syria & they'll be gone soon enough from Iraq.

Is funny how Al-Qaida is chilling in the background as these idiots came out puffing their chests like some sort of crusaders.

I think it'll be back to regular order soon with ISIS all but dead.

[Axl Rose]

These are just really poor people with fucked up religious ideology. They aren't fighters.
Well whats left are the scraps and conscripts. Russia and SAA did a number on them. Isis lost 800 of their best shock Troops just a few weeks ago in their failed attempt to retake ma’adan. They’ve been bleeding heavily in recent months as they come under attack from all sides. Those are some tough but stupid motherfuckers who until now had a reputation for never surrendering and fighting to the last man. That’s why they’re so damn hard to uproot from wherever they take hold. And there were a lot more of those roaches than we were originally told. CIA estimates we’re 20-31k fighters total in both Iraq ad Syria back in 2015. But the Iraqi Army killed 20k alone just in liberating mosul. Another 4-6k we’re estimated to
be in raqqa but who knows if that number also will triple like mosul when the dust settles? In 2017 it hasn’t been uncommon for RuAF to kill 100-1000 isis in one day. SDF (predominantly Kurdish coalition that we back) estimates at its peak there were between 100-200k Isis fighters not including police and administraive officials. I always wondered how 20k people ruled over 20 million spread out over a land mass larger than Belgium. Of all those fighters only a few thousand remain according to some reports so yeah they’ve pretty much been bled to death. They no longer have the manpower to take any meaningful offensive action or hold any territory they manage to capture.

[spurraider21]

JV team tbh

[Axl Rose]

They're finished. SAA & Russia have virtually wiped them out of Syria & they'll be gone soon enough from Iraq.
You have it backwards, after retaking Hawija pretty much all large urban areas in Iraq are back under control. Their last stand will be in the Euphrates river valley in Syria, where they are currently fighting SAA tooth and nail while letting the USA backed SDF march all over the place taking oilfields. Really makes you think.

[Axl Rose]

But yeah the oil revenue has all but dried up, leadership is deserting them and can’t afford to pay or feed them. The fight is no longer winnable or even prolong able for very much longer

[Axl Rose]

Russian MoD: attack by al-Nusra repelled north of Hama, 2400 moderate beheaders and 247 vehicles destroyed :wow

[RandomGuy]

But yeah the oil revenue has all but dried up, leadership is deserting them and can’t afford to pay or feed them. The fight is no longer winnable or even prolong able for very much longer

We are outside of Trumps 30 day time line, though. :lol

I wonder when we get to find out his Seekrit Plan

[Spurtacular]

These are just really poor people with fucked up religious ideology. They aren't fighters.

They're heathen. Most poor people aren't murderers and rapists.

[Spurtacular]

JV team tbh

Who Obama lost to. :lmao

[webshad]

USA invited all these mercenaries in Iraq to help them defeat ISIS, now these same mercenaries fighting for Kirkuk, :lmao *popcorn*

Peshburgers couldn't defend Kirkuk for a single day with 20 000+ soldiers.

ISIS, on the other hand, defended Mosul for over a year fighting against 100 000+ foot soldiers and a coalition larger than that who fought Hitler bombarding them.

Now let these mercenaries fight themselves, and watch ISIS come back.

Russia/Syria/Coalition fail to realize is that you are destroying cities and creating a humanitarian problem that you have no solution for. Those same people will join ISIS and make it larger than it was before. These coalitions couldn't liberate a single city until today that was intact.

[Spurtacular]

USA invited all these mercenaries in Iraq to help them defeat ISIS, now these same mercenaries fighting for Kirkuk, :lmao *popcorn*

Peshburgers couldn't defend Kirkuk for a single day with 20 000+ soldiers.

ISIS, on the other hand, defended Mosul for over a year fighting against 100 000+ foot soldiers and a coalition larger than that who fought Hitler bombarding them.

Now let these mercenaries fight themselves, and watch ISIS come back.

Russia/Syria/Coalition fail to realize is that you are destroying cities and creating a humanitarian problem that you have no solution for. Those same people will join ISIS and make it larger than it was before. These coalitions couldn't liberate a single city until today that was intact.

They didn't want to. Obama's plan all along was to sew chaos. It's no secret that he was infusing the millitants with cash and weapons while allowing their oil facilities to operate (it's not like it was hard to take those out).

[webshad]

They didn't want to. Obama's plan all along was to sew chaos. It's no secret that he was infusing the millitants with cash and weapons while allowing their oil facilities to operate (it's not like it was hard to take those out).

I believe Obama's office was more lenient toward collateral damage and humanitarian crisis.

Trump's office is about destroying an entire city, call it liberated, but then what?

Regardless, those mercenaries are lawless and ISIS can easily take them out without coalition air force. Like, look how they "defeated" ISIS so far, bomb and destroy the entire city. Don't worry Obama had the same tactic when he was depressed (remember how they destroyed Kobani trying to defeat ISIS).

Those Kurds (PKK and Peshburgers) and independent mercenaries are extremely weak and can't fight for sh*t (and some of them are worse than ISIS but media refuse to show their reality). They only want aerial attack and then march forward.

For now, enjoy the fighting between Peshburgers and mercenaries over Kirkuk.

[Splits]

lol sew

[webshad]

Now rumor has is Kurds in Iraq are releasing ISIS soldiers from prison in Kirkuk to help them fight the Iranian/Iraqi mercenaries. :lmao Spurstalk user Hater would be saying "sh*t is about to get real complicated". :lol ISIS controlling the city of Altun Kupri between Kirkuk and Erbil, and Kurds are celebrating and hoping that they will kill a lot of PMU mercenaries.

Stupid kurds should have realized that dealing with the USA and UK will not help you get your state, when they don't need you, they will dump you. Learn your lesson.

Those idiot Syrian Kurds should take heed in this, thinking that if they fight ISIS and other militants on behalf of Uncle Sam that they will miraculously get their state.

[webshad]

John McCain: USA armed Iraqis to fight ISIL not our partners.

:lmao

ISIL has more experience than you McCain in this territory. They know the culture and tradition of the people there. Same faith will happen in Syria, the Syrian army will fight the PKK (which is a terrorist organization themselves but Uncle Sam needs them now).

All that US dollar gone to Iranian and Iraqi mercenaries who are unpredictable at this point, lol. I wonder who couldn't see this coming... :lol

[webshad]

US President Trump on Kirkuk clashes: “We don’t like the fact that they are clashing, but we’re not taking sides.” :lmao

Of course you're not, you need both of these donkeys to help you fight ISIS, but the loser of the two will join or support ISIS :lmao making them stronger to defeat the other.

How smart was it for ISIS to withdrawal from those lands and let these puppets fight and kill each other :lol

Iraq is full of loose canons now, US invested too much money into unknown mercenaries from Iran and elsewhere desperately to defeat ISIS, now welcome to the mess

[boutons_deux]

And dubya/dickhead/neoncon/BigOil M/E shitstorm continues, THANKS!

U.S. Strikes ISIS In Yemen For The First Time, Killing Dozens Of Militants

The complex conflict pits a kaleidoscope of

tribes,

military units and

political factions against each other

in chaotic rivalries that have

allowed hardline Sunni Muslim militant groups like al Qaeda and Islamic State to thrive.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-strikes-isis-yemen_us_59e5bf3de4b02a215b32a0dc?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__101717&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__101717+CID_c1b9ca73 0b370c0b30c42e8d6caba455&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Reuters&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__101717

but Saddam bombed WTC, had WMD, and was a "bad man" :lol

BigOilMan dickhead's hyper-secret National Energy Plan meeting, months before 9/11, was attended by BigOil execs to go over Saddam/Iraq oil fields. :lol

[webshad]

And dubya/dickhead/neoncon/BigOil M/E shitstorm continues, THANKS!

U.S. Strikes ISIS In Yemen For The First Time, Killing Dozens Of Militants

The complex conflict pits a kaleidoscope of

tribes,

military units and

political factions against each other

in chaotic rivalries that have

allowed hardline Sunni Muslim militant groups like al Qaeda and Islamic State to thrive.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-strikes-isis-yemen_us_59e5bf3de4b02a215b32a0dc?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__101717&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__101717+CID_c1b9ca73 0b370c0b30c42e8d6caba455&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Reuters&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__101717

but Saddam bombed WTC, had WMD, and was a "bad man" :lol

BigOilMan dickhead's hyper-secret National Energy Plan meeting, months before 9/11, was attended by BigOil execs to go over Saddam/Iraq oil fields. :lol




100% the Iraq illegal invasion was pre-planned, they made Iraq look like a threat to the world with fake WMD stories.

Even today the media is refusing to blame those parties responsible for this illegal invasion, but purely focus on ISIS this and ISIS that, when in reality it should focus on the source of the problem that started everything and arrest and punish those responsible for it.

[monosylab1k]

lol sew

:lol

[webshad]

:lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMVAUZxX4AAiv57.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

:lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMVAUZxX4AAiv57.jpg

:lol

Remember in Desert Storm when we encouraged the Kurds to rise up and then told Saddam sure you can use your helicopters to slaughter the Kurds.

Kurds are like Charlie Brown and the football.

[webshad]

:lol

Remember in Desert Storm when we encouraged the Kurds to rise up and then told Saddam sure you can use your helicopters to slaughter the Kurds.

Kurds are like Charlie Brown and the football.

How stupid are those groups that actually trust Uncle Sam. They even f*ck us over here in the states, and you think they won't f*ck over some group elsewhere.

They use you because your blood is cheap, unfortunately, these silly people fall for it over and over and over again.

[DMC]

How stupid are those groups that actually trust Uncle Sam. They even f*ck us over here in the states, and you think they won't f*ck over some group elsewhere.

They use you because your blood is cheap, unfortunately, these silly people fall for it over and over and over again.

Don't use the drive through. They f*ck you there as well.

[Spurtacular]

John McCain: USA armed Iraqis to fight ISIL not our partners.

:lmao

ISIL has more experience than you McCain in this territory. They know the culture and tradition of the people there. Same faith will happen in Syria, the Syrian army will fight the PKK (which is a terrorist organization themselves but Uncle Sam needs them now).

All that US dollar gone to Iranian and Iraqi mercenaries who are unpredictable at this point, lol. I wonder who couldn't see this coming... :lol

They were very predictable. Obama had the reports. He knew exactly that he was giving the money to terrorist groups, which is why he didn't broadcast it and did much of it under the table.

[webshad]

Well next time, don't fall for their dirty tricks. Dumbass :bang

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMlDBQnWAAEpTDN.jpg:large

[webshad]

Told you all, this coalition couldn't fight for shit and liberate a single city as of yet.

They use the PMU (Iranian militia) or PKK terrorist organization to advance as they blow up infrastructures.

Then they raise their flags over rubble and claim victory. :lol pathetic

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41714754

[Chris]

Trump

Mad Dog

Sessions

[boutons_deux]

Nobody can trust Trash

“Mr. Trump clearly stated that he had given clear instructions and that the YPG won’t be given arms and that this nonsense should have ended a long time ago.”

Trash Just Betrayed The Kurds Who Freed Syria From ISIS

President Trump has turned his back on the people who won him his “tremendous victories” against Daesh (ISIS/ISIL),

demonstrating once again to the world that he is a fickle man of no loyalty to anyone but himself and perpetually ungrateful for the sacrifices of others.

President Trump spoke with Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan today, who almost certainly showered him with praise and in return got everything he asked for.

Over the past year, the Kurdish People’s Protection Units of Rojava, Syria (YPG/YPS) and their allies in the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) have spearheaded the campaign to liberate Syria from ISIS

Erdoğan and the Turkish military have been quietly carrying out a quasi-genocidal repression campaign against the Kurds in southeast Turkey, (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/turkey-kurds-erdogan-armenia-genocide-hdp-pkk)committing countless war crimes in their efforts to subdue the Kurdish independence movements, which are led by the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK).

Trump has shown the entire world that the word of the United States means nothing and

demonstrated that we will turn our back on a secular and democratic society like the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria (Rojava)

in favor of a repressive Islamist dictator like Erdoğan simply because Erdoğan told him he was “brilliant.” (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/erdogan-trump-election/index.html)

http://verifiedpolitics.com/trump-just-betrayed-people-freed-syria-isis/

[Mark Celibate]

Lmao “the people who won him his major victories” uh, no that would be the Iraqi Army, PMU, Assad and allies etc. with Russian and US air support also playing key roles. Kurds thought they could capitalize on the circumstances and got shut down by all the regional powers.

[boutons_deux]

Part of Pootin's Long Game is to weaken, destroy EU and NATO.

Pootin has been befriending dictator Erdogan, Turkey is a memeber of NATO, to separate Turkey from NATO.

Pootin is also making friends with Iran, to setup a Saudi / Iran war which would push the price of oil well over $100, and gas, which would greatly enrich Pootin with his oil and gas exports for hard currency in USD.

Trash has already congratulated dictator Erdogan (as the kind of dictator Trash lusts to be), so Trash stopping arming US's Kurdish fighters as a favor to Erdogan is therefore a favor to his BFF extortionist/compromiser Pootin.

Complicated, subtle shit which of course totally escapes you simple-minded, knee-jerking rightwingnutjob assholes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lmao “the people who won him his major victories” uh, no that would be the Iraqi Army, PMU, Assad and allies etc. with Russian and US air support also playing key roles. Kurds thought they could capitalize on the circumstances and got shut down by all the regional powers.

Shut down? The control most everything north of the Euphrates not to mention the autonomous regions in Iraq.

Have to love our local Russian shills though.

[boutons_deux]

Putin Declares Victory in Syria Despite Trump Increasing U.S. Forces in the Country

While Putin, Erdogan and Rouhani stood side-by-side and declared victory in Syria,

there was one major elephant in the room -

the United State's large military presence in Syria

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/1.824588

[Mark Celibate]

Shut down? The control most everything north of the Euphrates not to mention the autonomous regions in Iraq.

Have to love our local Russian shills though.

We can always have a repeat of Kirkuk east of the Euphrates once ISIS is finished. You don’t know that iraqi Kurds got cucked and isolated and their airspace restricted by their neighbors right? Kurdistan won’t happen, they’ll eventually have to settle agreements with their respective governments. Any attempt at independence is doomed to fail simply because of geographical reasons.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We can always have a repeat of Kirkuk east of the Euphrates once ISIS is finished. You don’t know that iraqi Kurds got cucked and isolated and their airspace restricted by their neighbors right? Kurdistan won’t happen, they’ll eventually have to settle agreements with their respective governments. Any attempt at independence is doomed to fail simply because of geographical reasons.

The Kurds have never had an air force and ever since the US shot down the bombers that were attacking them this summer the air raids have stopped. Your shilling won't stand for acknowedging Russia stood down will it?

The US gave them near a billion dollars in military aid a few months ago and they are exceedingly popular with Arab Sunnis in both Syria and Iraq ie the majorities in the remainder of the areas they are prevalent.

Kirkuk was about the oilfields there and it was well outside of the Kurds home in the Zargos. There is no analogous Syrian force to Iraqi security unchecked as there was in Kirkuk. FSA and Kurds control the area north of the Euphrates.

[Mark Celibate]

The Kurds have never had an air force and ever since the US shot down the bombers that were attacking them this summer the air raids have stopped. Your shilling won't stand for acknowedging Russia stood down will it?

The US gave them near a billion dollars in military aid a few months ago and they are exceedingly popular with Arab Sunnis in both Syria and Iraq ie the majorities in the remainder of the areas they are prevalent.

Kirkuk was about the oilfields there and it was well outside of the Kurds home in the Zargos. There is no analogous Syrian force to Iraqi security unchecked as there was in Kirkuk. FSA and Kurds control the area north of the Euphrates.

They are landlocked, they are not popular with Sunnis in the area who are more wary of them than anything, they are surrounded by hostile powers, and the FSA doesn’t control anything east of the Euphrates that is all SDF. SDF has maintained ties with Russia throughout all of this and there will eventually be a political solution reached. Iraq, Turkey, and Damascus simply wont allow SDF to break off and form a Kurdish state on either side of the Iraq/Syria border because to do so would embolden separatists in their own territory. Iraqi Kurds already voted for independence and fell back into line really quickly. The regional powers won’t allow it. Assad can also unleash erdogan to come in and fight the Kurds under the pretext of terrorism if it comes down to it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They are landlocked, they are not popular with Sunnis in the area who are more wary of them than anything, they are surrounded by hostile powers, and the FSA doesn’t control anything east of the Euphrates that is all SDF. SDF has maintained ties with Russia throughout all of this and there will eventually be a political solution reached. Iraq, Turkey, and Damascus simply wont allow SDF to break off and form a Kurdish state on either side of the Iraq/Syria border because to do so would embolden separatists in their own territory. Iraqi Kurds already voted for independence and fell back into line really quickly. The regional powers won’t allow it. Assad can also unleash erdogan to come in and fight the Kurds under the pretext of terrorism if it comes down to it.

:lol So you think Assad is going to allow a Turkish army into Syria? That is your plan to stop the Kurds?

Meanwhile neither the Alawites or the Arabs want the Turks in Syria. I suggest you review what happened in 1516.

Meanwhile the Kurds are in an excellent strategic position with the Euphrates on one side and a mountain range they are entrenched in on the other. I am not sure how this is going to shake out but your certainty is just baseless shilling.

[Winehole23]

declaration of victory was premature, NATO announces long-term "exercises" in Iraq:


NATO has committed to a long-term military training effort in Iraq, where the Iraqi Security Forces are still struggling against pockets of ISIS fighters in several areas despite declaring victory over the terror group nearly a year ago, a British officer with the U.S.-led coalition said Tuesday.


Maj. Gen. Christopher Ghika, deputy commander for strategy for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve, also announced that the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces had renewed a stalled offensive in northeastern Syria against an estimated 1,500-2,000 fighters of the Islamic State in and around the town of al-Tanf.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/11/14/nato-commits-long-term-military-training-mission-iraq.html