Las Vegas Shooting Simple Working Hypothesis

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

Are you serious?

Let me know what your conspiracy theory is here. This should be good.

What I've seen pretty well belies my experience with guns.

[Pavlov]

What I've seen pretty well belies my experience with guns.How many times were you shot at with modified semiautomatic rifles during a concert?

[Spurtacular]

How many times were you shot at with modified semiautomatic rifles during a concert?

That has nothing to do with how bullets strike matter.

[Pavlov]

That has nothing to do with how bullets strike matter.So you have no experience. What is making you say bullets are not striking matter here?

[Spurtacular]

So you have no experience. What is making you say bullets are not striking matter here?

What is making you say bullets are striking matter? By your logic anyone who falls has been struck by a bullet.

[Pavlov]

What is making you say bullets are striking matter? By your logic anyone who falls has been struck by a bullet.That is not the only video ever taken of this incident.

What is making you say bullets are not striking matter here? Share your vast experience with the world. Educate us on how everyone who thinks bullets hit people in Vegas are wrong.

[Spurtacular]

That is not the only video ever taken of this incident.

What is making you say bullets are not striking matter here? Share your vast experience with the world. Educate us on how everyone who thinks bullets hit people in Vegas are wrong.

My experience with shooting bullets en masse at matter puts severe doubt into my mind that real bullets are being shot en masse here. Anyone who has shot bullets en masse can see the tell-tale signs of destruction and the sights and sounds of ricocheting and penetrating bullets. None of that is occurring here.

[Pavlov]

My experience with shooting bullets en masse at matter puts severe doubt into my mind that real bullets are being shot en masse here. Anyone who has shot bullets en masse can see the tell-tale signs of destruction and the sights and sounds of ricocheting and penetrating bullets. None of that is occurring here.What are you saying is happening to all these thousands of people? What is making the sounds of the sonic cracks at different locations in and around the venue? How are the impact sounds against the metal stands being faked? How are hundreds of bullet wounds being faked? Tell us from your vast en messe experience.

[Spurtacular]

What are you saying is happening to all these thousands of people?

Thousands of people what? You're intentionally making misleading insinuations b/c you realize you're not on a solid footing.

[Pavlov]

Thousands of people what? You're intentionally making misleading insinuations b/c you realize you're not on a solid footing.Thousands of people were being shot at and witnessed the event. Hundreds were wounded by bullets and shrapnel. 59 died. What are you saying happened to these people? What is making the sounds of the sonic cracks at different locations in and around the venue? How are the impact sounds against the metal stands being faked? How are hundreds of bullet wounds being faked? Tell us from your vast en masse experience.

[Spurtacular]

Thousands of people were being shot at (with blanks apparently).

Okay; so, you have no point.

[Pavlov]

Okay; so, you have no point.Quit stalling. This is your conspiracy theory.

Thousands of people were being shot at and witnessed the event. Hundreds were wounded by bullets and shrapnel. 59 died. What are you saying happened to these people? What is making the sounds of the sonic cracks at different locations in and around the venue? How are the impact sounds against the metal stands being faked? How are hundreds of bullet wounds being faked? Tell us from your vast en masse experience.

[Galileo]

I stand with Pavlov!!!!

[Spurtacular]

Thousands of people were being shot at and witnessed the event.

Thousands of people have said that they saw bullets striking matter? I haven't seen that report. It doesn't exist.

[Pavlov]

Thousands of people have said that they saw bullets striking matter? I haven't seen that report. It doesn't exist.You're still stalling.


Quit stalling. This is your conspiracy theory.

Thousands of people were being shot at and witnessed the event. Hundreds were wounded by bullets and shrapnel. 59 died. What are you saying happened to these people? What is making the sounds of the sonic cracks at different locations in and around the venue? How are the impact sounds against the metal stands being faked? How are hundreds of bullet wounds being faked? Tell us from your vast en masse experience.

[CosmicCowboy]

My experience with shooting bullets en masse at matter puts severe doubt into my mind that real bullets are being shot en masse here. Anyone who has shot bullets en masse can see the tell-tale signs of destruction and the sights and sounds of ricocheting and penetrating bullets. None of that is occurring here.
Fuck you are dumb. Distance is 550 yards. Fucked up lower velocity tumbling mess ballistically but still deadly shooting into a crowd.

[DMC]

I stand with Pavlov!!!!

Sounds perfect now.

[DMC]

My experience with shooting bullets en masse at matter puts severe doubt into my mind that real bullets are being shot en masse here. Anyone who has shot bullets en masse can see the tell-tale signs of destruction and the sights and sounds of ricocheting and penetrating bullets. None of that is occurring here.

This is not true. I've used fully automatic weapons many times, and you can shoot down range for a thousand rounds and maybe you'll see dirt kick up now and then, but you won't see massive damage unless you're watching Predator.

Watch a police shootout sometime, or a military operation where cover fire is being sent down range. You won't see massive damage. Even when the A-10 lays down the smack in an urban environment you only see dust from concrete. A minigun firing downrange might kick up some debris, but otherwise on soft tissue and bare ground, you won't see or hear anything over the Vegas night at 550 yards.

[Spurtacular]

Fuck you are dumb. Distance is 550 yards. Fucked up lower velocity tumbling mess ballistically but still deadly shooting into a crowd.

The distance/caliber is insignificant. We would see sure signs of impact that could not be faked. You're the fucking retard here.

[Spurtacular]

This is not true. I've used fully automatic weapons many times, and you can shoot down range for a thousand rounds and maybe you'll see dirt kick up now and then, but you won't see massive damage unless you're watching Predator.

Watch a police shootout sometime, or a military operation where cover fire is being sent down range. You won't see massive damage. Even when the A-10 lays down the smack in an urban environment you only see dust from concrete. A minigun firing downrange might kick up some debris, but otherwise on soft tissue and bare ground, you won't see or hear anything over the Vegas night at 550 yards.

You might not see something in the distance. But surely at close range, you would see all kinds of signs besides what cannot easily be faked.

[Pavlov]

The distance/caliber is insignificant. We would see sure signs of impact that could not be faked. You're the fucking retard here.
:blah

Your theory, please.

[CosmicCowboy]

The distance/caliber is insignificant. We would see sure signs of impact that could not be faked. You're the fucking retard here.
You are not going to see 5.56 impact being shot into hard surface at 550 yards but its obviously still enough KE to kill soft targets

[CosmicCowboy]

FYI a 5.56 at 550 yards is down to about 1150 fps (almost subsonic) and a 55 grain bullet is not going to look like scarface in the movies dumbfuck.

[DMC]

You might not see something in the distance. But surely at close range, you would see all kinds of signs besides what cannot easily be faked.

Sure, at close range, in the daylight. Otherwise you're deafened by the noise, blinded by the flash and you see nothing. That's if you're the shooter. If you're at the wrong end, it's just a random whizz now and then and maybe someone hits the dirt. It's not like it was church mouse quiet out there. Hell, they thought the reports were from speaker noise so they certainly wouldn't hear the impact.

[Spurtacular]

Sure, at close range, in the daylight. Otherwise you're deafened by the noise, blinded by the flash and you see nothing. That's if you're the shooter. If you're at the wrong end, it's just a random whizz now and then and maybe someone hits the dirt. It's not like it was church mouse quiet out there. Hell, they thought the reports were from speaker noise so they certainly wouldn't hear the impact.

Seed of doubt; but for all those alleged fatalities, I'm seeing no strong evidence of anything being struck.

[Pavlov]

Seed of doubt; but for all those alleged fatalities, I'm seeing no strong evidence of anything being struck.Quit being a pussy and tell us your conspiracy theory.

[Spurtacular]

Quit being a pussy and tell us your conspiracy theory.

I don't have to act like I have all the answers. Not being a lemming like you and not believing everything the govt. and their lapdog media tells me is sufficient.

[Pavlov]

I don't have to act like I have all the answers. Not being a lemming like you and not believing everything the govt. and their lapdog media tells me is sufficient.
You're the one who claims all the "en masse" shooting experience. Share it and show us why you're right and everyone else is wrong.

[DMC]

Seed of doubt; but for all those alleged fatalities, I'm seeing no strong evidence of anything being struck.

Anything? Like what exactly, the fuel tank that was hit? What are you looking for? Be specific.

[Spurminator]

Will Trump lose Galileo/Cosmored and the InfoWars types if he halts the release of the JFK documents?


Trump is putting them out.

921485947593744384

[Spurtacular]

Anything? Like what exactly, the fuel tank that was hit? What are you looking for? Be specific.

Just no videos of bullets certainly striking; no pictures of the alleged carnage. I saw a seemingly well-off lady on the ground with blood splattered on her leg. Hardly convincing stuff.

[DMC]

Just no videos of bullets certainly striking; no pictures of the alleged carnage. I saw a seemingly well-off lady on the ground with blood splattered on her leg. Hardly convincing stuff.

There's a video of the crowd being ushered out and down a sidewalk. One guy is shot through the arm and into the side, didn't know he was hit in the side.

Dude, seriously? People cannot even pull off a troll hack without getting caught and you think 20K people were in on a conspiracy fake shooting for the sake of gun control?

[Spurtacular]

There's a video of the crowd being ushered out and down a sidewalk. One guy is shot through the arm and into the side, didn't know he was hit in the side.

Dude, seriously? People cannot even pull off a troll hack without getting caught and you think 20K people were in on a conspiracy fake shooting for the sake of gun control?

Of course they evacuated. You don't take chances when you're hearing a rain of gunfire (whether the bullets are real or not).

[DMC]

Of course they evacuated. You don't take chances when you're hearing a rain of gunfire (whether the bullets are real or not).

So they heard a rain of gunfire but it was staged, so several of them put fake blood on themselves and took selfies and everyone else including the singer just hauled ass (odd that he sang "I won't back down" on SNL after abandoning his crowd with a "we'll be right back" message)?

They didn't know what the sound was, and what got them moving was people dropping and screaming.

[Spurtacular]

So a lot of them just fell down and stayed there, and put blood on themselves to play along?

There's also a video where a guy is hiding behind a truck and you can hear the rounds hitting around him.

What blood? I saw an after the fact pic that could easily be staged. And show the video of the alleged hits, then. I haven't seen it.

[DMC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnn-GvRPh-w

Watch toward the end of the dude who got shot. If you think that's fake.. I can't help you.

[Pavlov]

What blood? I saw an after the fact pic that could easily be staged. And show the video of the alleged hits, then. I haven't seen it.How are you saying the sonic cracks heard in every video are being faked? There are some clear ricochet/impact sounds in YouTubes close to the video wall that was clearly struck near the beginning of the attack and in another video from the elevated metal VIP stand. How were all these faked? It's your claim -- back it up.

[DMC]

I can't believe this is even being debated.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnn-GvRPh-w

Watch toward the end of the dude who got shot. If you think that's fake.. I can't help you.

Good post. First thing I've seen like this, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Good post. First thing I've seen like this, tbh.Then you weren't looking.

[Spurtacular]

Then you weren't looking.

You weren't looking; I gave you many of chances. No surprise you didn't bring the goods.

Now, stop trying to piggy back on DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) and do your own shit.

[Pavlov]

You weren't looking; I gave you many of chances. No surprise you didn't bring the goods.I had already seen that. It was not what you demanded to see. I showed you a video of a person being hit by a bullet. No surprise you didn't even look for anything and wanted your hand held like a child.


Now, stop trying to piggy back on DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) and do your own shit.So you believe there were real bullets now?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

I had already seen that. It was not what you demanded to see. No surprise you didn't even look.

So you believe there were real bullets now?

Yes or no.

That's at least anecdotal evidence. I'm still not without doubt.

And you can cry all you want; but you brought no goods, you sac-less wonder.

[Pavlov]

That's at least anecdotal evidence. I'm still not without doubt.

And you can cry all you want; but you brought no goods, you sac-less wonder.You didn't even look for yourself. Just sat in the dark and whined to have things brought to you like a baby.

What are your doubts?

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[Cry Havoc]

My experience with shooting bullets en masse at matter puts severe doubt into my mind that real bullets are being shot en masse here. Anyone who has shot bullets en masse can see the tell-tale signs of destruction and the sights and sounds of ricocheting and penetrating bullets. None of that is occurring here.

So you've shot 5.56 and 7.68 rounds from several hundred yards away 300 feet off the ground into a crowd of people? Because the distance and trajectory has a massive impact on the, well, impact of rounds when they strike.

[Cry Havoc]

Fuck you are dumb. Distance is 550 yards. Fucked up lower velocity tumbling mess ballistically but still deadly shooting into a crowd.

Especially from assault rifles on full auto. Would have been a completely different story with a 30.06 or a 300 Win if that's what he used, but then of course the body count wouldn't be so damn high.

[Cry Havoc]

https://www.inverse.com/article/37463-conspiracy-beliefs-illusory-pattern-perception


Conspiracy Theorists Have a Fundamental Cognitive Problem, Say Scientists


:lol

[Spurminator]

Pretty good bit, Spurtacular, it's hard to get everyone here to agree on anything but looks like there's a rare consensus that you're retarded.

[Will Hunting]

921485947593744384

:lol the infowars clowns aren't touching this post with a 10 foot pole.

[AaronY]

:lol the infowars clowns aren't touching this post with a 10 foot pole.
I don't wanna get too political but I been thinking about it and honestly I don't think photon torpedos could melt steel beams myself. The destruction of the Death Star was an inside job imo

Even freeze framed it at at 1:31:47 and you could see a weird look on a guys face like hes plotting something with Vader before Darth heads out in his ship to "pretend" and try to shoot down Luke tbh

[AaronY]

That's at least anecdotal evidence. I'm still not without doubt.

And you can cry all you want; but you brought no goods, you sac-less wonder.

What about you man? What are your thoughts on the Death Star?

I'm telling you if you freeze frame where I said there is definitely a look on that guys face like hes up to something

[DMC]

So you've shot 5.56 and 7.68 rounds from several hundred yards away 300 feet off the ground into a crowd of people? Because the distance and trajectory has a massive impact on the, well, impact of rounds when they strike.

7.62

[AaronY]

I mean Vader just knows to get out of the ship right before its about to blow up? gmafb man. I mean c'mon man pay ATTENTION!

[Spurtacular]

What about you man? What are your thoughts on the Death Star?

I'm telling you if you freeze frame where I said there is definitely a look on that guys face like hes up to something

I know this: Han shot first.

[Spurtacular]

Pretty good bit, Spurtacular, it's hard to get everyone here to agree on anything but looks like there's a rare consensus that you're retarded.

You post that literally after a guy posting a theory against the purported story. You're the fucking retard (throwing out your canned insult). Par for the course.

[Spurtacular]

So you've shot 5.56 and 7.68 rounds from several hundred yards away 300 feet off the ground into a crowd of people? Because the distance and trajectory has a massive impact on the, well, impact of rounds when they strike.

No, mass shooting that far except maybe in a controlled scenario would be irresponsible. So, naturally I have not done so. DMC already made a similar argument to yours. Regardless of whether the impact would be minimized, I question whether a rain of bullets would not still be quite apparent. In these videos, we hear the loud sounds and see no verifiable impact.

[Th'Pusher]

You post that literally after a guy posting a theory against the purported story. You're the fucking retard (throwing out your canned insult). Par for the course.

No dude. You’re the consensus moron of the political forum.

[Spurtacular]

No dude. You’re the consensus moron of the political forum.

It's a gay point either way. I don't make judgments based on group think.

[Pavlov]

It's a gay point either way. I don't make judgments based on group think.
What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[Th'Pusher]

It's a gay point either way. I don't make judgments based on group think.

It doesn’t matter. Everybody thinks you’re a fucking moron. Sportos, Motörheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebs, dickheads...they all think you’re a fucking idiot.

[Spurtacular]

It doesn’t matter. Everybody thinks you’re a fucking moron. Sportos, Motörheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebs, dickheads...they all think you’re a fucking idiot.

I don't remember whose alt you are; but GFY.

[Spurminator]

I don't make judgments based on group think.

Everyone who has terrible judgment can claim this.

[Spurtacular]

Everyone who has terrible judgment can claim this.

You got that completely wrong, dupe. Anyone who does not have poor judgement can claim it.

[Th'Pusher]

I don't remember whose alt you are; but GFY.

I don’t have an alt. I’m just one of the many people who think you’re a fucking moron.

[AaronY]

Everyone who has terrible judgment can claim this.
Why don't you just go stick in your head in the and with the rest of the sheeple bro. Me when everyone looks at the facts and comes to a solid similar conclusion about something fishy is going on

[Spurtacular]

Why don't you just go stick in your head in the and with the rest of the sheeple bro. Me when everyone looks at the facts and comes to a solid similar conclusion about something fishy is going on

What fact have I not stuck to? And obviously I have concluded that something "fishy is going on."

[Spurtacular]

I don’t have an alt. I’m just one of the many people who think you’re a fucking moron.

You're an alt; but I honestly don't care b/c you can still GFY.

[Spurminator]

You got that completely wrong, dupe. Anyone who does not have poor judgement can claim it.

Yeah, but we know that doesn't apply to you because you're a 911 truther who thinks people weren't actually shot in Las Vegas.

Like, some people are great mathematicians because they challenge established theories and develop new ones that help push mathematics forward, but you're in here saying 2+2=29 and congratulating yourself for not engaging in groupthink like the other mathematicians.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah, but we know that doesn't apply to you because you're a 911 truther who thinks people weren't actually shot in Las Vegas.

Like, some people are great mathematicians because they challenge established theories and develop new ones that help push mathematics forward, but you're in here saying 2+2=29 and congratulating yourself for not engaging in groupthink like the other mathematicians.

I've never claimed people weren't shot in Vegas. You're an idiot.

[Spurminator]

I've never claimed people weren't shot in Vegas. You're an idiot.

That's what I assumed you were claiming since you seem to be arguing every established fact about the Vegas shooting and, from what I can tell, have not presented your own theory about what happened.

Enlighten me, o non-conformist Godbrain.

[Spurtacular]

That's what I assumed you were claiming since you seem to be arguing every established fact about the Vegas shooting and, from what I can tell, have not presented your own theory about what happened.

Enlighten me, o non-conformist Godbrain.

For what it's worth I did challenge the details of the alleged shooting. I never claimed an outright denial is my point.

Some have presented concepts that signs of damage are less visible in long range shooting. I still find it hard to believe that high caliber rounds would not create a more verifiable form of destruction. You may have been taught not to question; that is not my training.

[Pavlov]

For what it's worth I did challenge the details of the alleged shooting. I never claimed an outright denial is my point.

Some have presented concepts that signs of damage are less visible in long range shooting. I still find it hard to believe that high caliber rounds would not create a more verifiable form of destruction. You may have been taught not to question; that is not my training.What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[pgardn]

Serious truth-seekers would give this some serious consideration.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270685&page=9&p=9163054&viewfull=1#post9163054

You people seem to be tryng to bury it. If you're against it, please say why. Let's try to use the scientific method.
https://www.google.es/search?dcr=0&source=hp&q=scientific+method&oq=scientific+me&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i131k1j0l9.1312.4919.0.7473.13.13.0.0.0.0. 321.1669.2j9j0j1.12.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.12.1641...0i10k1.0.QOrMi1mH2iU

Use the sci method.....

The fruit bat who claims we never went to the moon...

You still have yet to explain how 1000s of people involved in the hoax pulled it off. You have absolutely zero evidence for your simple working hypothesis. So now you want to take this on?

1. Did we send a probe to Saturn? 2.Did it take pictures of the moon Titan? 3. How did the Europeans fake the landing of their probe on Titan and fool the world?

4. Do we even have satellites orbiting the Earth? 5. Tell us all how far we have gotten as far as launching objects into space please? 6. Were all the Apollo missions faked? 7. Is there a space station the Russians and the US use? If not, how are we working with the zRussians to pull this off?

Give us the story please. No men into space? No probes into space? Exactly how far have we gotten in these adventures?
This is a hell of a lot of stuff to fake, so please answer all the above.

You know you won't.

You think you are somehow special in that you are immune to hoaxes perpetrated for God knows what reason... You are totally and utterly full of yourself. So now that you have an audience you wish to show your brilliance to, and you cannot answer thousands of other questions that come along with what you think you and other special people have realized. This is the height of arrogance and or complete insanity.

[boutons_deux]

More Than 800 People Have Been Shot To Death Since The Las Vegas Massacre

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gun-violence-since-las-vegas_us_59ef8f32e4b04917c593cb18?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__102517&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__102517+CID_18832292 1ed519a5ff0de2b73ea8f69a&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=More%20than%20800%20people&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__102517

[Spurtacular]

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

More fabricated crisis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ahA8wu0Ngc

[Pavlov]

More fabricated crisis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ahA8wu0NgcSo you're saying all the bullets were fake?

[Spurtacular]

So you're saying all the bullets were fake?

Not necessarily.

[Pavlov]

Not necessarily.So what are you saying?

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[Spurtacular]

So what are you saying?

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

More shadow govt. bull shit, probably.

[Pavlov]

More shadow govt. bull shit, probably.What does that even mean?

You just vomit up words you think are profound but you're saying nothing.

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[Spurtacular]

What does that even mean?

You just vomit up words you think are profound but you're saying nothing.

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

I couldn't imagine my words being profound to anybody whose head is lodged up his ass.

[Pavlov]

I couldn't imagine my words being profound to anybody whose head is lodged up his ass.What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[Spurtacular]

What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

That's a good question. Apparently the govt. doesn't want us to know.


Fifty-eight people killed. More than 500 injured. And yet, nearly a month after the Las Vegas Strip experienced the worst mass shooting in modern American history, local and federal authorities are refusing to fill in the blanks.

It wasn’t always like this. In the days after Oct. 1, when Stephen Paddock opened fire on the Route 91 Harvest festival crowd from his Mandalay Bay corner suite, Las Vegas police were hosting multiple news conferences a day. Then, once a day. Then, once every few days.

They compiled and released snippets of officers’ body camera footage. They spent several minutes answering specific questions. They released a comprehensive timeline, which ended up being wrong.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/authorities-put-brakes-on-information-flow-in-las-vegas-shooting/

[Pavlov]

That's a good question. Apparently the govt. doesn't want us to know.You didn't answer the question.

[Spurtacular]

You didn't answer the question.

So, you want me to fill in the holes for the government?

[Pavlov]

So, you want me to fill in the holes for the government?I want you to answer a simple question. What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

[Spurtacular]

I want you to answer a simple question. What do you think really happened in Las Vegas?

You want to let the govt. off the hook while pretending that I'm an oracle.

[Pavlov]

You want to let the govt. off the hook while pretending that I'm an oracle.Nope. I know the general government story. You're the one terrified to say what you think really happened.

[Spurtacular]

Nope. I know the general government story. You're the one terrified to say what you think really happened.

You're using cheap come-ons; you must be losing again.

[Pavlov]

You're using cheap come-ons; you must be losing again.You're the one who can't even offer an opinion. :lol

[Galileo]

Paddock's hard drive is missing!!!

[boutons_deux]

GOP congressman claims ISIS is responsible for Vegas shooting — and they infiltrated ‘through the southern border’

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-18-at-9.37.57-PM-800x430-1.png

http://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/gop-congressman-claims-isis-is-responsible-for-vegas-shooting-and-they-infiltrated-through-the-southern-border/

Thanks, PA backwoods cretins

[Chris]

^ yep it was ISIS + CIA

[djohn2oo8]

^ yep it was ISIS + CIA

?

[Blake]

^ yep it was ISIS + CIA

:lmao

[Chris]

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[koriwhat]

but but but chris, paddock was a white supremacist, trump loving, lone shooter!

[Chris]

but but but chris, paddock was a white supremacist, trump loving, lone shooter!

Yeah never mind witnesses saying they heard and saw gunfire coming from different locations :lol

[spurraider21]

but but but chris, paddock was a white supremacist, trump loving, lone shooter!
who said that?

[koriwhat]

Yeah never mind witnesses saying they heard and saw gunfire coming from different locations :lol

lol indeed

[Pavlov]

Yeah never mind witnesses saying they heard and saw gunfire coming from different locations :lolWhich locations?

[Chris]

Which locations?

The grassy knoll.

[koriwhat]

Which locations?

stfu and lose this bs shtick of yours already. your ego needs a stomping on.

[Pavlov]

stfu and lose this bs shtick of yours already. your ego needs a stomping on.
It's a legitimate question. Unfortunately, when you conspiracy theorists are confronted with legitimate questions, you respond like this:

The grassy knoll.

Your egos simply can't handle any questions at all.

[spurraider21]

lol indeed
its almost like the shooter had multiple rooms that offered different shooting angles

[Blake]

lol indeed

What does this new info mean to you?

[Pavlov]

What does this new info mean to you?To me it means that guy had better be guilty because life as he knew it just ended.

[Chris]

Your egos

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b3/ba/4a/b3ba4a70ce0a845a60f5ad1f9663670e.jpg

Only you can help you.

[Pavlov]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b3/ba/4a/b3ba4a70ce0a845a60f5ad1f9663670e.jpg

Only you can help you.Which is funny since someone else brought up ego first.

You're the one who made the baseless claim and immediately folded, Chris.

Only you can help you.

[koriwhat]

It's a legitimate question. Unfortunately, when you conspiracy theorists are confronted with legitimate questions, you respond like this:


Your egos simply can't handle any questions at all.

RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!



Which is funny since someone else brought up ego first.

You're the one who made the baseless claim and immediately folded, Chris.

Only you can help you.

actually i think it was spurtacular that hit the nail on the head yesterday in regard to your bs shtick which fuels your bs ego.

[spurraider21]

actually i think it was spurtacular that hit the nail on the head yesterday in regard to your bs shtick which fuels your bs ego.
that only makes sense if he literally hit a nail on his head

[koriwhat]

that only makes sense if he literally hit a nail on his head

we can tell you and pav have plenty of nails in both your heads.

[spurraider21]

we can tell you and pav have plenty of nails in both your heads.
"i know you are but what am i"

[Pavlov]

RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!This thread is about the Las Vegas shooting.


actually i think it was spurtacular that hit the nail on the head yesterday in regard to your bs shtick which fuels your bs ego.Your inability to answer simple questions is not my fault.

[koriwhat]

This thread is about the Las Vegas shooting.

Your inability to answer simple questions is not my fault.

your line of questioning is that of a dimwitted far left loon.

[Pavlov]

your line of questioning is that of a dimwitted far left loon.
This is what Chris claimed:

Yeah never mind witnesses saying they heard and saw gunfire coming from different locations :lol
This is what I asked:

Which locations?
It's a perfectly legitimate question to someone who brought up multiple shooters.

I'm pretty familiar with the area so I was curious. You want to merely complain and not discuss the Las Vegas shooting at all.

[Chris]

I'm lazy

https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2017/10/28/collage0084-700x420.jpg

[Pavlov]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2017/10/28/collage0084-700x420.jpgThose aren't reports of shots from locations. That's some conspiracy site guessing where someone else could've shot from based solely on elevation.

[Chucho]

actually i think it was spurtacular that hit the nail on the head yesterday in regard to your bs shtick which fuels your bs ego.

That was me.

[Pavlov]

That was me.Well, you and they only talk about me these days. Find something else to talk about -- like maybe politics.

[TSA]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/BWWTdb5vSxeU/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

Hey, TSA -- another post about me.

Do you still think the Las Vegas shooting was ISIS/Antifa?

[Chucho]

Well, you and they only talk about me these days. Find something else to talk about -- like maybe politics.

Yah, one post pointing out why you always go on pages long back and forths with the same three people equals "always" talking about you.

[Pavlov]

Yah, one post pointing out why you always go on pages long back and forths with the same three people equals "always" talking about you.Well, here you are still talking about me.

[Chucho]

LOL, Pavs unhinged.

[Pavlov]

LOL, Pavs unhinged.LOL, proving my point.

[Chucho]

LOL, unhinged and doing as pointed out, per par. :lol
Cue the "deep conversation" spin...

[Pavlov]

Who said anything about "deep conversation"?

Wasn't me.

LOL Chucho making stuff up.

[Chucho]

Who said anything about "deep conversation"?

Wasn't me.

LOL Chucho making stuff up.

:lmao

[Pavlov]

:lmao:lmao

[koriwhat]

That was me.

:tu

[spurraider21]

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but but but chris, paddock was a white supremacist, trump loving, lone shooter!


Yeah never mind witnesses saying they heard and saw gunfire coming from different locations :lol
:lmao not a second shooter
:lmao guy who sold him ammunition in arizona

[Blake]

Muh conspiracy

:depressed

[Chris]

:lmao not a second shooter
:lmao guy who sold him ammunition in arizona

Was he an atheist though?

[spurraider21]

Was he an atheist though?
i dno, was he in the church of satan?

[Blake]

Was he an atheist though?

:cry but he worked at the dod :cry

[Chris]

969767736464130048

[Chris]

973218012001112064

[clambake]

fake news.

trump destroyed isis

[spurraider21]

973218012001112064
deep state leaks good now

[Pavlov]

973218012001112064So he's ISIS and Antifa!

lol

[spurraider21]

still waiting for derptacular to confirm that there was even a shooting tbh

[Chris]

2nd shooter confirmed

1004765000983109633

Looks like it was ISIS imo

[Pavlov]

2nd shooter confirmed

1004765000983109633

Looks like it was ISIS imoThat is indeed a special level considering Mandalay Bay has only 43 floors.

[clambake]

That is indeed a special level considering Mandalay Bay has only 43 floors.

lol

[Pavlov]

BREAKING: SECURITY CAM FOOTAGE OF SECOND SHOOTER RETURNING FROM CRYSTAL LEVEL RELEASED

https://78.media.tumblr.com/cfdbd9c4dbfc72de41c50a73265e11b4/tumblr_nxzv1odfLy1r7sijxo1_500.gif

[TSA]

That is indeed a special level considering Mandalay Bay has only 43 floors.I'm not supporting the 2nd shooter theory but it has 43 stories, 63 floors.

==============

Mandalay Bay's 32nd floor is about to disappear. The number of the floor, from which gunman Stephen Paddock used an arsenal of rifles to kill 58 and wound more than 500 concert-goers on Oct. 1, will be eliminated, MGM Resorts confirmed Thursday.

MGM Resorts media relations manager Brian Ahern said in an email the hotel's floors will be renumbered in mid-February. Floors 31 through 34 will be designated as floors 56 through 59.

The company last year said room 32135 where Paddock stayed would never be opened to guests.

The renumbering of floors may confuse guests because Mandalay Bay has only 43 stories. Floors 35 to 39, which won't change in the new numbering plan, are used by Four Seasons Las Vegas as a hotel within a hotel. The top four floors 60 to 63 will remain the same.

http://www.latimes.com/travel/lasvegas/la-tr-las-vegas-mandalay-bay-renumbering-floors-after-deadly-october-shooting-20180208-story.html

[Chris]

lol Pavlov

[Chris]

lol Pavlov

lol Pavlov

lol Pavlov

lol Pavlov

lol Pavlov

lol Pavlov

[Pavlov]

I'm not supporting the 2nd shooter theory but it has 43 stories, 63 floors.

==============

Mandalay Bay's 32nd floor is about to disappear. The number of the floor, from which gunman Stephen Paddock used an arsenal of rifles to kill 58 and wound more than 500 concert-goers on Oct. 1, will be eliminated, MGM Resorts confirmed Thursday.

MGM Resorts media relations manager Brian Ahern said in an email the hotel's floors will be renumbered in mid-February. Floors 31 through 34 will be designated as floors 56 through 59.

The company last year said room 32135 where Paddock stayed would never be opened to guests.

The renumbering of floors may confuse guests because Mandalay Bay has only 43 stories. Floors 35 to 39, which won't change in the new numbering plan, are used by Four Seasons Las Vegas as a hotel within a hotel. The top four floors 60 to 63 will remain the same.

http://www.latimes.com/travel/lasvegas/la-tr-las-vegas-mandalay-bay-renumbering-floors-after-deadly-october-shooting-20180208-story.html"Crystal Level" of course referring to the CIA-designed windows which bullets can pass through without shattering.

lol Chris

[Chris]

That is indeed a special level considering Mandalay Bay has only 43 floors.

LMAO

[Pavlov]

lol PavlovAlrighty, Chris.

Point out the Crystal Level window from which the second ISIS terrorist was shooting.

Feel free to you MS Paint or just count in from the outside corner.

https://www.ingunowners.com/rimg.php?referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ingunowners.com %2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D443315%26page%3D2 45&src=http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9009782-3x2-700x467.jpg

[Chris]

lol

LMAO

[clambake]

i am laughing

[spurraider21]

is the only source for this a laura loomer tweet?

[Pavlov]

is the only source for this a laura loomer tweet?I have seen zero references to a "Crystal Level" at Mandalay Bay outside the tweet.

Seen a Crystal Room off the casino, but that's it.

My Elevator Action gif stands.

[Chris]

Crystal Level reserved for high rollers and VIP. Special elevator :tu

[Pavlov]

Crystal Level reserved for high rollers and VIP. Special elevator :tuYour source that says "Crystal Level"?

[TSA]

Your source that says "Crystal Level"?

Your source that says Mandalay Bay only has 43 floors?

[Pavlov]

Your source that says Mandalay Bay only has 43 floors?No matter what they're numbered, it's the same number of floors.

43

It could have a 10000000000000000000000000000005th floor, but the building's number of floors doesn't change.

Do you have a source for "Crystal Level", TSA?

[Blake]

Crystal Level reserved for high rollers and VIP. Special elevator :tu


Your source that says Mandalay Bay only has 43 floors?

You guys would rather hang on this trivial issue than to further confirm the claim of a 2 shooter.

Smh conspiracy nuts

[TSA]

You guys would rather hang on this trivial issue than to further confirm the claim of a 2 shooter.

Smh conspiracy nuts


That is indeed a special level considering Mandalay Bay has only 43 floors.

I'm not supporting the 2nd shooter theory but it has 43 stories, 63 floors.


smh reading impaired

[Pavlov]

smh reading impairedStill only 43 floors.

One is named the 63rd floor, but that doesn't magically make the building have 63 floors.

43 stories, 43 floors.

[TSA]

Still only 43 floors.

One is named the 63rd floor, but that doesn't magically make the building have 63 floors.

43 stories, 43 floors.

You were wrong, just move on.

[Pavlov]

You were wrong, just move on.Oh you don't want to argue semantics anymore?

lol

Shit, you thought Paddock was ISIS. No wonder you always want to move on to something else.

[Blake]

You were wrong, just move on.

Yeah, move on to this 2nd shooter. Where else has it been confirmed

[spurraider21]

is the only source for this a laura loomer tweet?

[Spurtacular]

^^^

I would applaud your skepticism if it weren't for the fact that you don't give a sh** that the govt. ain't being straight on all this, not by a long shot.

[Blake]

^^^

I would applaud your skepticism if it weren't for the fact that you don't give a sh** that the govt. ain't being straight on all this, not by a long shot.

Lol conspiracy nuts

[Pavlov]

^^^

I would applaud your skepticism if it weren't for the fact that you don't give a sh** that the govt. ain't being straight on all this, not by a long shot.How is the government not being straight in all this?

[Spurtacular]

:cry Spoonfeed me :cry

[Spurtacular]

Lol conspiracy nuts

Don't act up, cuck.

[Blake]

Don't act up, cuck.

You're an idiot

[Spurtacular]

You're an idiot

Self acceptance is a thing. Come to terms with your cuckdom. Stop lashing out.

[spurraider21]

is the only source for this a laura loomer tweet?

[Pavlov]

2nd shooter confirmed

1004765000983109633

Looks like it was ISIS imo


I have seen zero references to a "Crystal Level" at Mandalay Bay outside the tweet.

Seen a Crystal Room off the casino, but that's it..Start listening at 3:30. They're talking about the Crystal Room on the casino level and officers on the scene declare the room clear in two minutes.

nX8JpspaWeQ

http://s427445329.onlinehome.us/images/propmaps/thmbmap.jpg

lol Loomer
lol Chris

[spurraider21]

:lmao 62nd floor
:lmao casino level

[DisAsTerBot]

Lol resident conspiritards

[Pavlov]

:lmao special elevator

[Spurminator]

As I've said many times, I don't know what's more pathetic... Believing in these kinds of conspiracy theories, or pretending to believe them just so you have something to talk about with strangers online. Either way, it's not a look anyone with any self respect should want to convey.

[Chris]

Just found this doing a little investigative work.


Look at the numbers on the elevator buttons.

qGYzY1Wl3NU



https://media3.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif

[spurraider21]

casino is at the bottom floor. that's where the crystal room is.

:lmao thinking crystal level is 62nd floor

and please, tell me all about the recovered bullet casings from the casino area

[Chris]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

Just found this doing a little investigative work.


Look at the numbers on the elevator buttons.

qGYzY1Wl3NU



https://media3.giphy.com/media/wrBURfbZmqqXu/giphy.gif

Great! Just found this doing some investigative work.

Look at where the Crystal Room is and listen to the dispatchers and police constantly saying the words "Crystal Room."


Start listening at 3:30. They're talking about the Crystal Room on the casino level and officers on the scene declare the room clear in two minutes.

nX8JpspaWeQ

http://s427445329.onlinehome.us/images/propmaps/thmbmap.jpg

lol Loomer
lol Chris

[Blake]

Lol YouTube detective

[Winehole23]

truepundit:


The source said “bosses are concerned” with the new revelations about Danley’s financial relationship with the FBI.


In FBI speak, Danley could have been a paid asset. And ‘concerned’ means folks are getting ready to cover their own butts if payments were made to Danley either before or after the massacre.
DEEP STATE FAILED TO TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY AGAIN

https://truepundit.com/feds-scramble-after-las-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-lists-fbi-as-place-of-employment-on-loan-application-she-might-have-been-an-asset/