ESPN anchor Jemele Hill suspended-from-network-for-two-weeks

[ducks]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/09/espn-s-jemele-hill-suspended-from-network-for-two-weeks.html

[Pavlov]

OK. Company policy.

[DMC]

She'll get fired.

She has to. Someone will offer her a talkshow.

[ducks]

cnn is going to call her

[Will Hunting]

She was an awful sports commentator anyway. I remember her retarded article about how the Raiders cutting Jamarcus Russell showed how the NFL was still racist against black QB :lol

[Fabbs]

She was an awful sports commentator anyway. I remember her retarded article about how the Raiders cutting Jamarcus Russell showed how the NFL was still racist against black QB :lol
:lol Exactly. Phaggot ESPN with minority/black/women enchilada hire.

[Darkwaters]

She was an awful sports commentator anyway. I remember her retarded article about how the Raiders cutting Jamarcus Russell showed how the NFL was still racist against black QB :lol

She's never been the sharpest tool in the shed. She's actually a pretty terrible journalist in every respect. She's basically made her name entirely on being a black woman and talking about race whenever possible.

Point in case: http://www.espn.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=hill/101123

[Darkwaters]

She was an awful sports commentator anyway. I remember her retarded article about how the Raiders cutting Jamarcus Russell showed how the NFL was still racist against black QB :lol

She's never been the sharpest tool in the shed. She's actually a pretty terrible journalist in every respect. She's basically made her name entirely on being a black woman and talking about race whenever possible.

Point in case: http://www.espn.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=hill/101123

[Chucho]

Black supremacist saying black supremacist things, tbh.

[Chinook]

I'm so sick of Hill. Hell, I'm sick of all the bleeding hearts who make up ESPN's editorial stance. Seifert and Graziano have been spamming the NFL section with bullshit for years now.

[DeadlyDynasty]

She's loud and black, with zero substance. ESPN loves to foment racial and cultural tensions, so she ain't going anywhere.

[DeadlyDynasty]

She was an awful sports commentator anyway. I remember her retarded article about how the Raiders cutting Jamarcus Russell showed how the NFL was still racist against black QB :lol
That was so bad:lol

iirc a fellow sports writer called her out on that shit

[Spurtacular]

OK. Company policy.

Explain your typical passive aggressive bull shit chime-in.

[Spurtacular]

I'm so sick of Hill. Hell, I'm sick of all the bleeding hearts who make up ESPN's editorial stance. Seifert and Graziano have been spamming the NFL section with bullshit for years now.

Wetzel fucked up Yahoo for me. Fucking cucks and their bull shit.

[Pavlov]

Explain your typical passive aggressive bull shit chime-in.You didn't understand that?

:lol

[Spurtacular]

You didn't understand that?

:lol

Oh, was that your begrudging acceptance? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Oh, was that your begrudging acceptance? :lmaoIt was a question. It's safe to say you didn't understand it. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

It was a question. It's safe to say you didn't understand it. :lmao

It's safe to say you're engaging in your patented avoidance. Was that your begrudging acceptance or did you just feel the need to state the obvious?

[Pavlov]

It's safe to say you're engaging in your patented avoidance. Was that your begrudging acceptance or did you just feel the need to state the obvious?Damn, you're serious about this. :rollin

[Spurtacular]

Damn, you're serious about this. :rollin

Begrudging acceptance; got it. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Begrudging acceptance; got it. :lmaoI grudgingly accept the words I posted. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

I grudgingly accept the words I posted. :lmao

Yea, you do; as you grudgingly accepted Jemele Hill's suspension. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Yea, you do; as you grudgingly accepted Jemele Hill's suspension. :lmao:lol I think she's pretty stupid in this case. Almost as stupid as you.

[Spurtacular]

:lol I think she's pretty stupid in this case. Almost as stupid as you.

So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmao

[Pavlov]

So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmaoI think she's pretty stupid most of the time. I do love the fact she triggers snowflakes like you tho. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

I think she's pretty stupid most of the time. I do love the fact she triggers snowflakes like you tho. :lmao

I actually think it's a shame. When she's not sucking Lebron's dick (par for the course at ESPN) or whining about dumb race shit, she's one of the best female talents to ever work at the company, even if she was basically an affirmative action hire.

[Pavlov]

I actually think it's a shame. When she's not sucking Lebron's dick (par for the course at ESPN) or whining about dumb race shit, she's one of the best female talents to ever work at the company, even if she was basically an affirmative action hire.If she's one of the best ever, how do you know it's an affirmative action hire?

[Spurtacular]

If she's one of the best ever, how do you know it's an affirmative action hire?

Because she was garbage when she started (in print).

[Pavlov]

Because she was garbage when she started (in print).Oh, your opinion is how you know.

[Spurtacular]

Oh, your opinion is how you know.

Did you want me to go digging up old articles for your sorry ass? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Did you want me to go digging up old articles for your sorry ass? :lmaoTo prove you have an opinion? :lmao

[Spurtacular]

To prove you have an opinion? :lmao

Nobody has to prove they have an opinion, dumb ass.

[Chucho]

Sometimes Pavs wins, sometimes Spurtacular wins. Right now, it's a tossup.

[Spurtacular]

Sometimes Pavs wins, sometimes Spurtacular wins. Right now, it's a tossup.

I KO'd him in the first three rounds. Just sparring at this point, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Nobody has to prove they have an opinion, dumb ass.It's certainly not a way to prove she was an affirmative action hire.

[Spurtacular]

It's certainly not a way to prove she was an affirmative action hire.

Not every assertion is meant to be "proven," bro. In the second place, you're not that important.

[Pavlov]

Not every assertion is meant to be "proven," bro. In the second place, you're not that important.Then why did you start whining to me in the first place?

[Spurtacular]

Then why did you start whining to me in the first place?

You're calling a sidebar addendum "whining". Your playbook's stale.

[Pavlov]

You're calling a sidebar addendum "whining". Your playbook's stale.You're still whining to me.

:lol not that important

[Chucho]

You're calling a sidebar addendum "whining". Your playbook's stale.

To the point where he took a loss from Chris. CHRIS!

[Spurtacular]

You're still whining to me.

:lol not that important

Weak sh** even for you.

[Pavlov]

Weak sh** even for you.:cry You're still here?

[Spurtacular]

:cry You're still here?

Did you follow Jemele Hill's print career?

[Pavlov]

Did you follow Jemele Hill's print career?Still trying to convince me? :lmao

[Spurtacular]

Still trying to convince me? :lmao

I'll take that as a no. So, you're basically an ignoramus needing to be "convinced." :lmao

[Pavlov]

I'll take that as a no. So, you're basically an ignoramus needing to be "convinced." :lmaoNo, you're just trying really hard to convince me. :lmao

n:cryt that imp:cryrtant

[Will Hunting]

That was so bad:lol

iirc a fellow sports writer called her out on that shit
I'm still not sure how that article slipped past the goalie. Even ESPNs most bleeding heart editors should have seen how stupid that article was.

[Spurtacular]

No, you're just trying really hard to convince me. :lmao

n:cryt that imp:cryrtant

You're playbook is gimpy/stale, bro. Anyone reading this knows I haven't tried to convince you of anything.

[Pavlov]

You're playbook is gimpy/stale, bro. Anyone reading this knows I haven't tried to convince you of anything.Still showing me how not important to you I am. :lol

[Spurtacular]

She's never been the sharpest tool in the shed. She's actually a pretty terrible journalist in every respect. She's basically made her name entirely on being a black woman and talking about race whenever possible.

Point in case: http://www.espn.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=hill/101123

It's what got her in the door and then onto the bleeding heart's airwaves. She toned it down for TV 'til recently and was actually okay, imo.

[Spurtacular]

Still showing me how not important to you I am. :lol


She was an awful sports commentator anyway. I remember her retarded article about how the Raiders cutting Jamarcus Russell showed how the NFL was still racist against black QB :lol Pavlov
Throwing you a bone, bro. I'll let you feel "important."

[Pavlov]

Pavlov
Throwing you a bone, bro. I'll let you feel "important."Hey look, you're trying to convince me again!

[Spurtacular]

Hey look, you're trying to convince me again!

Hence, throwing you a bone. Try to keep up....

You forgot something, though:

So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmao

[Pavlov]

Hence, throwing you a bone. Try to keep up....

You forgot something, though:

So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmao:lol I never forgot you're a snowflake.

:cryattack:cry

You care about the stupidest shit.

[Spurtacular]

:lol I never forgot you're a snowflake.

:cryattack:cry

You care about the stupidest shit.

You're the one being inconsistent. I guess you didn't want to double down on your stupidity. That's something, I guess.

[Pavlov]

You're the one being inconsistent. I guess you didn't want to double down on your stupidity. That's something, I guess.No, I think this entire thing has been a shitshow since Trump started distracting you with it.

But you care about it soooo much.

[Spurtacular]

No, I think this entire thing has been a shitshow since Trump started distracting you with it.

But you care about it soooo much.

Didn't want to double down on your stupidity.

[Pavlov]

Didn't want to double down on your stupidity.I am doubling down on this whole thing's being a shitshow that is successfully distracting you. You're proving me right with every one of your angry posts.

[Spurtacular]

I am doubling down on this whole thing's being a shitshow that is successfully distracting you. You're proving me right with every one of your angry posts.

Lashing out doesn't erase your not doubling down on your stupidity.

[Pavlov]

Lashing out doesn't erase your not doubling down on your stupidity.:lol What are you even talking about at this point?

[Spurtacular]

:lol What are you even talking about at this point?

So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmao

[Pavlov]

So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmaoI think Jones is being an idiot too by making a bigger deal out of this because of Trump. Just like you're an idiot for making this your #1 issue here.

[Wild Cobra]

She'll get fired.

She has to. Someone will offer her a talkshow.

Rush Limbaugh was let go by ESPN for a statement unsettling by many, and now his talk show is a huge success!

[Pavlov]

Rush Limbaugh was let go by ESPN for a statement unsettling by many, and now his talk show is a huge success!It already was a success, that's why they tried to get him on TV. He's always been a failure on TV for pretty obvious reasons.

[Spurtacular]

I think Jones is being an idiot too by making a bigger deal out of this because of Trump. Just like you're an idiot for making this your #1 issue here.

That's shit analysis. Trump has nothing to do with it. JJ is a worm. If the ratings were going up, JJ would have nothing to say.

So again, this is what it boils down to: So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmao

[Pavlov]

That's shit analysis. Trump has nothing to do with it. JJ is a worm. If the ratings were going up, JJ would have nothing to say.

So again, this is what it boils down to: So, Trump was worthy of attacking and Jerry Jones wasn't? :lmaoTrump has everything to do with it. Trump pulled his stunts for ratings too. They're both pretty pathetic tbh. Why do you think Trump is worthy of defending?

[ducks]

Rush Limbaugh was let go by ESPN for a statement unsettling by many, and now his talk show is a huge success!

he has more brains then this bitch

[ducks]

Trump has everything to do with it. Trump pulled his stunts for ratings too. They're both pretty pathetic tbh. Why do you think Trump is worthy of defending?

I thought trump was not the reason the rating suck per liberals

[Pavlov]

I thought trump was not the reason the rating suck per liberalsHe's not. Is this the best use of Trump and Pence's time and the government's money, ducks?

[ducks]

He's not. Is this the best use of Trump and Pence's time and the government's money, ducks?

he was the governor of the state he went to show respect to peyton
was setup for weeks
did not take a lot of time

cost alot of less money then throwing billions to iran for NOTHING

[Pavlov]

he was the governor of the state he went to show respect to peyton
was setup for weeks
did not take a lot of timeHe disrespected Manning by leaving. Took time and taxpayer money


cost alot of less money then throwing billions to iran for NOTHINGIt's only for nothing if Trump scraps the nuke deal.

[ducks]

iran broke the deal already online at yahoo even

[Pavlov]

iran broke the deal already online at yahoo evenNope.

[ducks]

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=iran+broke+nuclear+deal&fr=yfp-t-201-s&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/majid-rafizadeh/iran-breached-the-nuclear_b_9977768.html 3 times BITCH

[Pavlov]

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=iran+broke+nuclear+deal&fr=yfp-t-201-s&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/majid-rafizadeh/iran-breached-the-nuclear_b_9977768.html 3 times BITCHThat isn't the nuclear deal.

[ducks]

iran broke nuclear deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
search term BITCH
they broke it!

[Pavlov]

iran broke nuclear deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
search term BITCH
they broke it!You posted a story about UN resolutions.

That is not the nuclear deal.

[ducks]

read it said BOTH

[ducks]

Iran Breaches the Nuclear Deal and UN Resolutions for Third Time

[ducks]

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2017/jun/14/karen-handel/iran-complying-nuclear-deal-yes-small-hiccups/
Says Iran has "violated the terms of the (nuclear) deal."

— Karen Handel on Thursday, June 8th, 2017 in a debate

[Splits]

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2017/jun/14/karen-handel/iran-complying-nuclear-deal-yes-small-hiccups/
Says Iran has "violated the terms of the (nuclear) deal."

— Karen Handel on Thursday, June 8th, 2017 in a debate


We rate Handel’s statement Mostly False.

:lmao

[Pavlov]

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2017/jun/14/karen-handel/iran-complying-nuclear-deal-yes-small-hiccups/
Says Iran has "violated the terms of the (nuclear) deal."

— Karen Handel on Thursday, June 8th, 2017 in a debate:lol mostly false.

OK, why didn't Trump scrap the deal his first day in office and kept recertifying it?

[Spurtacular]

Trump has everything to do with it. Trump pulled his stunts for ratings too. They're both pretty pathetic tbh. Why do you think Trump is worthy of defending?

Why do I think the American flag is worth defending? Why do I think the free market place is worth defending?

Mmmhmmm.

[Pavlov]

Why do I think the American flag is worth defending? Why do I think the free market place is worth defending?

Mmmhmmm.You didn't answer the question.

Why do you think Trump is worthy of defending here?

No one is attacking the flag here. No one is attacking the free market here.

[Spurtacular]

You didn't answer the question.

Why do you think Trump is worthy of defending here?

No one is attacking the flag here. No one is attacking the free market here.

Well, that's what Trump is standing up for, bro. I'm sorry you couldn't have deduced that.

[Pavlov]

Well, that's what Trump is standing up for, bro. I'm sorry you couldn't have deduced that.Well, no one is attacking the flag or the free market when they kneel silently. I'm sorry you couldn't have deduced that. Only a fucking moron would think that.

[Spurtacular]

Well, no one is attacking the flag or the free market when they kneel silently. I'm sorry you couldn't have deduced that. Only a fucking moron would think that.

It's subjective. But the precedent is that this type of behavior is considered an afront to the nation. The people doing this are attention whores who are to egomaniacal to be bothered with time and place.

[Pavlov]

It's subjective.Only to fucking morons.
But the precedent is that this type of behavior is considered an afront to the nation.By snowflakes and fucking morons.
The people doing this are attention whores who are to egomaniacal to be bothered with time and place.They want to draw attention to a cause and fucking morons don't get it or just want to distract from it.

[Spurtacular]

Only to fucking morons.By snowflakes and fucking morons.They want to draw attention to a cause and fucking morons don't get it or just want to distract from it.

By subjective, I mean it can at least be seen in both lights. All the same, only "fucking morons" don't get that kneeling for the national anthem is disrespectful.....

Yea, they could wipe their asses with the flag to "draw attention to a cause" by that dumb fuck logic.

[Pavlov]

By subjective, I mean it can at least be seen in both lights. All the same, only "fucking morons" don't get that kneeling for the national anthem is disrespectful.....

Yea, they could wipe their asses with the flag to "draw attention to a cause" by that dumb fuck logic.That would be disrespecting the flag. Attacking it even. Kneeling silently isn't doing either. Only fucking morons think it is.

[Spurminator]

Studies show that flags don't know if you're kneeling or not and cannot feel respect.

What you are objecting to is the refusal to participate in ceremonial patriotism. People are refusing to stand because they are expected and required to stand. "Disrespecting the flag" is idiot code.

[DMC]

Studies show that flags don't know if you're kneeling or not and cannot feel respect.

What you are objecting to is the refusal to participate in ceremonial patriotism. People are refusing to stand because they are expected and required to stand. "Disrespecting the flag" is idiot code.

Except they, of their own free will, signed an agreement with a franchise where they are required every game to be subjected to the national anthem. Why doesn't the protest happen during the signing?

Imagine, in your job at an office somewhere, the national anthem is played and you take a knee in front of the CEO, on national television because some dignitary is visiting your office. Would it be against your rights to terminate your employment?

CK said he'd stand for it if he could get signed again. His GF denies it but them's the rumors.

[Spurtacular]

That would be disrespecting the flag. Attacking it even. Kneeling silently isn't doing either. Only fucking morons think it is.

Attack is your word. I called it an afront to the nation, which it is.

[Spurminator]

Except they, of their own free will, signed an agreement with a franchise where they are required every game to be subjected to the national anthem. Why doesn't the protest happen during the signing?

Because the President of the United States didn't suggest they should be fired for disrespecting signing day.

And because they're not interested in what you deem to be an appropriate time to make a statement.


Imagine, in your job at an office somewhere, the national anthem is played and you take a knee in front of the CEO, on national television because some dignitary is visiting your office. Would it be against your rights to terminate your employment?

Did it hurt to push that scenario out of your ass?

Fwiw, I would not be fired for doing that and I can't imagine working in a place where I would be.

[DMC]

Because the President of the United States didn't suggest they should be fired for disrespecting signing day.

And because they're not interested in what you deem to be an appropriate time to make a statement.


Of course it had nothing to do with getting paid first then protesting what they knew they were signing up for after the fact.

Again, like protesting a war after joining the military voluntarily.


Did it hurt to push that scenario out of your ass?

Fwiw, I would not be fired for doing that and I can't imagine working in a place where I would be.

:lol of course because a private business is exactly the same as walking around in public. You do realize your work agreement means you don't cast a negative light on your employer, right? Ask Jemele Hill.

[Spurtacular]

Of course it had nothing to do with getting paid first then protesting what they knew they were signing up for after the fact.

Again, like protesting a war after joining the military voluntarily.


:lol of course because a private business is exactly the same as walking around in public. You do realize your work agreement means you don't cast a negative light on your employer, right? Ask Jemele Hill.
Spurminator nuked. Pavlov too really.

[Pavlov]

Attack is your word. I called it an afront to the nation, which it is.
Only fucking moron snowflakes think that.

[Spurminator]

Of course it had nothing to do with getting paid first then protesting what they knew they were signing up for after the fact.

There is no requirement to forego your living in order to demonstrate.


Again, like protesting a war after joining the military voluntarily.

Nothing wrong with that either.


:lol of course because a private business is exactly the same as walking around in public. You do realize your work agreement means you don't cast a negative light on your employer, right? Ask Jemele Hill.

You're the one who brought up the random office scenario, smarty. If my employer had reason to believe I would be uncomfortable participating in a ceremonial display of patriotism, and that my discomfort could cause an incident that would paint the company in a bad light, they'd excuse me from the ceremony. I can't imagine working anywhere where that wouldn't be the case. Especially if this was something that happened every week.

Anyway, where in your fictional scenario do we get to the part where the President repeatedly says that I should be fired and the VP shows up at my office for a pre-planned exit five minutes later? Or are those things not as relevant as flags and millionaire n!ggers?

[Spurtacular]

Only fucking moron snowflakes think that.

Definition of affront transitive verb
1 a :to insult especially to the face by behavior or language

He was affronted by her rudeness.


b :to cause offense to

laws that affront society



2 a :to face in defiance :confront (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confront)

affront death


b obsolete :to encounter face-to-face

3 :to appear directly before

[Pavlov]

Definition of affront transitive verb
1 a :to insult especially to the face by behavior or language

He was affronted by her rudeness.


b :to cause offense to

laws that affront society



2 a :to face in defiance :confront (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confront)

affront death


b obsolete :to encounter face-to-face

3 :to appear directly before
Only snowflakes and fucking morons think that. And people can be both.

[Spurminator]

"The North Korean man's failure to execute the choreography at Kim Jong Un's birthday celebration was an affront to the dictator, who had him executed."

[Spurtacular]

Only snowflakes and fucking morons think that. And people can be both.

The dictionary disagrees with you.

[Pavlov]

"The North Korean man's failure to execute the choreography at Kim Jong Un's birthday celebration was an affront to the dictator, who had him executed."Was probably uppity too.

[Spurminator]

Was probably uppity too.

He got free bowls of rice to learn that choreography, he should have been more thankful.

[Pavlov]

The dictionary disagrees with you.Actually it does not. The fucking morons and snowflakes think it's an affront. It's their opinion.

[DMC]

There is no requirement to forego your living in order to demonstrate.

Requirement by whom? You certainly have the right to demonstrate, but your employer has the right to terminate your employment for basically any reason other than the protected class reasons.

Jemele Hill only spoke out, is she not allow freedom of speech? I guess not!



Nothing wrong with that either.

Of course. But if the POTUS doesn't want to do his job, that's a crime.


You're the one who brought up the random office scenario, smarty. If my employer had reason to believe I would be uncomfortable participating in a ceremonial display of patriotism, and that my discomfort could cause an incident that would paint the company in a bad light, they'd excuse me from the ceremony. I can't imagine working anywhere where that wouldn't be the case. Especially if this was something that happened every week.

Sure, don't you think players can be excused as well? If a player approaches a GM and says "I am offended by the national anthem, i'd like to remain in the lockerroom during it" that they'd not have a problem with it?

Do these same people protest the Canadian anthem or anthems from other countries they face during exhibitions?

It's a show, like the yellow ribbon people put on their cars because they want to be part of the wave of cool people showing support. Left to their own, these people wouldn't put on on their cars, and the other players wouldn't kneel during the anthem except that it makes them part of the cool crowd. Odd they weren't doing it when CK was at first, when Obama was in office.


Anyway, where in your fictional scenario do we get to the part where the President repeatedly says that I should be fired and the VP shows up at my office for a pre-planned exit five minutes later? Or are those things not as relevant as flags and millionaire n!ggers?

The POTUS can't have an opinion?

I don't use the N word. That's reserved for the special snowflakes like you who think they are above it but would get your nose broken just the same by a black man if you ever opened your hole.

[Spurminator]

Requirement by whom? You certainly have the right to demonstrate, but your employer has the right to terminate your employment for basically any reason other than the protected class reasons.

You're not following. There is no requirement for people to refuse a job and paycheck that may involve things they don't agree with. There is an entire NFL Players Association dedicated to challenging the rules that were in place when those players signed their agreements. This is not unusual.

I am not disputing an employer's right to terminate an employee who doesn't follow their rules, even arbitrary ceremonial ones.


Of course. But if the POTUS doesn't want to do his job, that's a crime.

Poor leader of the free world, he must be tired of being sent into the line of fire without agreeing with or even necessarily knowing the objectives.

:lol You really just compared Trump to a soldier.


Sure, don't you think players can be excused as well? If a player approaches a GM and says "I am offended by the national anthem, i'd like to remain in the lockerroom during it" that they'd not have a problem with it?

I'm sure if that was an option it probably would have been offered up. As I understand it, players are expected to be on the field during the national anthem, a cherished tradition that has been in place since 2009.

Why is it up to the player to offer a compromise? Do you think a player would refuse to stay in the locker room if he was asked?


Do these same people protest the Canadian anthem or anthems from other countries they face during exhibitions?

Does Canada have any recent problems with law enforcement using unnecessary force, getting off without punishment, and having a significant portion of the country claim the victim deserved to die?

As for other countries, maybe we'll see when we play Russia or the Philippines in exhibition football.


It's a show, like the yellow ribbon people put on their cars because they want to be part of the wave of cool people showing support. Left to their own, these people wouldn't put on on their cars, and the other players wouldn't kneel during the anthem except that it makes them part of the cool crowd. Odd they weren't doing it when CK was at first, when Obama was in office.

Obama didn't call them sons of bitches who needed to be fired.

You really need to review the timeline here, champ.


The POTUS can't have an opinion?

No one said he can't. People are saying he shouldn't express this particular opinion in his position, and this is their way of saying it. Millionaire athletes can't have an opinion?


I don't use the N word. That's reserved for the special snowflakes like you who think they are above it but would get your nose broken just the same by a black man if you ever opened your hole.

You don't have to use the n word to mean the n word. Your continued reference to the players' paychecks gives you away, along with the ease with which you insult their intelligence by suggesting black people don't understand context. LOL thinking black people are all violent BLM/Antifa types. You must not have a very diverse network.

You want them to be submissive just like your great grandpappy did. Their protests immediately strike you as showy whining because the first thing you see is that they are the rare wealthy black folk, so that's where you target their integrity.

They should be thankful and submissive and do as they're told. It doesn't occur to you that their message isn't about themselves. You love your flag and by golly they should too.

[ducks]

NFL players disrespected flag before trump said anything

[Pavlov]

NFL players disrespected flag before trump said anythingYeah, and his worshippers only decided to hate it after he tweeted.

And kneeling silently is not disrespect

[Spurtacular]

Actually it does not. The fucking morons and snowflakes think it's an affront. It's their opinion.

It's black and white. Dictionary ain't having your bull shit.

[ducks]

Yeah, and his worshippers only decided to hate it after he tweeted.

And kneeling silently is not disrespect
Says you not majority

[ducks]

hours ago
"We have a constitutional right to protest." Another ignorant football player. Nowhere in the Constitution is there a right to protest. Further, you have a right to peacefully assemble, petition the government, and free speech; but, no right to protest. That being said on your time you can use your right to peacefully assemble and protest. But, you were not on your time. You were on your employer's time and ultimately the fans time. And they did not pay to have your right to protest force down their throats. And if you were actually protesting some thing wrong in America it still would not matter. But, you were protesting something that is non-existent. America is not a racist nation. White males are more likely to be shot than blacks. Yet, blacks commit 50% of the violent crime. And to hear this bs coming from black millionaires that have been pampered all their lives. Clean up your community and then come talk to us about racial injustice.

[Spurminator]

It's black and white. Dictionary ain't having your bull shit.

"Cormac McCarthy is not a hack writer."

(Spurtacular pastes the definition of "hack" to prove otherwise.)

[Spurminator]

Damn, ducks that's one of the most racist things I've ever seen unironically posted here, is that a David Duke quote?

[ducks]

Got 653 likes on yahoo 53 thumbs down
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/49ers-eric-reid-defends-taking-knee-during-national-230100933--abc-news-topstories.html

[Spurminator]

Oh, a Yahoo comment. I should have known.
:lmao

[Spurtacular]

"Cormac McCarthy is not a hack writer."

(Spurtacular pastes the definition of "hack" to prove otherwise.)

Geez, you have no fucking grasp on how things transpire.

[ducks]

Miho 17 hours ago
Make America Better? Where have I heard that before? Better? How? Why? These protesters can never articulate what specifically the mean. Institutional racism? So, we're gonna call a whole place racist, until we pin the tail on the racist? Systemic oppression? You mean your imagination? I don't know what they want. If they could tell me what they want, I would listen. Until then, it just sounds like a kid who goes around saying nobody likes me. We call those kids, "paranoid."
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[Spurminator]

Geez, you have no fucking grasp on how things transpire.

Pretty sure that's exactly how it transpired.

You: "Kneeling is an affront to the country."
Pav: "Only fucking morons would think it's an affront"
You: Posts dictionary definition of affront, claims victory.

Did I miss anything? I do have to admit I pretty much scroll past your posts but I feel like I got the basic gist of the last few.

[ducks]

Brian 17 hours ago
Make the country better? Your spitting in the face of all those who fought and sacrificed for YOUR freedom. By the way, a black man has more opportunities to better himself in America than anywhere else on the planet. A white conservative male is actually the most discriminated against class ... Thank you Obama and political correctness for that.

[DMC]

You're not following. There is no requirement for people to refuse a job and paycheck that may involve things they don't agree with. There is an entire NFL Players Association dedicated to challenging the rules that were in place when those players signed their agreements. This is not unusual.

Why are you talking in absolutes like requirements? Having the right doesn't make you right and it doesn't do much to illustrate your commitment to your cause if you're willing to whore yourself out as long as you get to bitch about the sex before you perform.

It's not a difficult concept, common fucking sense to most people. But you're right, it's not against the law.


I am not disputing an employer's right to terminate an employee who doesn't follow their rules, even arbitrary ceremonial ones.

Here you go with "right" again. Do you not realize the large majority of protocol doesn't revolve around right and wrong, but common sense and decency? Where in the Bill of Rights is the requirement for either? Where is it written in any employment contract that you have to exercise good judgement and have common sense? Where does it forbid being a diva for publicity?


Poor leader of the free world, he must be tired of being sent into the line of fire without agreeing with or even necessarily knowing the objectives.

Where does it state he has to know the objectives or agree with them? You fall back on "rights" when you talk about one side, but "ought to" when you talk about the other. You try to present opinion as fact, partisan spin as incontrovertible truth. I don't buy it.


:lol You really just compared Trump to a soldier.

He's the commander in chief. A government employee. Why the double standard?


I'm sure if that was an option it probably would have been offered up. As I understand it, players are expected to be on the field during the national anthem, a cherished tradition that has been in place since 2009.

Suddenly tradition matters.


Why is it up to the player to offer a compromise? Do you think a player would refuse to stay in the locker room if he was asked?

What compromise? If he's offended, that's on him. Don't participate. What, did the national anthem become offensive after he signed? I swear it hasn't changed in at least 20 years.


Does Canada have any recent problems with law enforcement using unnecessary force, getting off without punishment, and having a significant portion of the country claim the victim deserved to die?

So now law enforcement is a federal thing so the national anthem represents city law enforcement? All that shit happened on Obama's watch yet they didn't boycott him, the leader of the nation they purport to protest.


As for other countries, maybe we'll see when we play Russia or the Philippines in exhibition football.

They won't. They have zero idea what goes on in other countries, none.


Obama didn't call them sons of bitches who needed to be fired.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Obama was the face of the nation they were protesting against, the leader of the nation that the national anthem represents. Obama didn't take a knee. Keep pretending it's not a fad, we all know better. That's why JV players are doing it and getting booted from the squad.


You really need to review the timeline here, champ.


I don't think so, it was Aug 26th 2016, Obama was the POTUS. CK didn't just become upset that day. In fact, all the shit you talk about basically happened on Obama's watch. Still, athletes were glad to visit the White House.

It's just partisan hack shit, you know it so does everyone else.


No one said he can't. People are saying he shouldn't express this particular opinion in his position, and this is their way of saying it. Millionaire athletes can't have an opinion?

Sure they can, before they become millionaire athletes. It's disingenuous to protest the very thing your employer is honoring, when you knew full well what you were signing on for.

What's so difficult to understand about that?

I don't give a shit who kneels, but don't pretend they aren't complicit in all the bullshit as they collect their big paychecks in cities with incredibly high poverty rates. All this fucking kneeling, what did any of them do for any of the families of these innocent victims of the evil police?


You don't have to use the n word to mean the n word. Your continued reference to the players' paychecks gives you away, along with the ease with which you insult their intelligence by suggesting black people don't understand context.

Yeah I know, because I disagree with you I'm a bigot, racist and white supremacist and you're just a kind hearted open minded individual with nothing but love on your mind who uses the N word through artistic license.


You want them to be submissive just like your great grandpappy did. Their protests immediately strike you as showy whining because the first thing you see is that they are the rare wealthy black folk, so that's where you target their integrity.

Yes, my grandpappy the native american wanted blacks to be submissive. My sharecropper grandparent was well off.


They should be thankful and submissive and do as they're told. It doesn't occur to you that their message isn't about themselves. You love your flag and by golly they should too.
You're worse at false narrative than Chumpy. You're so far off base with your stereotyping anyone who disagrees with your white washed echo chamber takes on here that you cannot even see the base anymore.

You've not said one correct thing, not one. That's quite an accomplishment.

[DMC]

:lol then you had to go edit your post because you obviously didn't get all the salt out in the first one. You had to add something about how not all blacks are BLM or whatever. Go do a survey, call every black person you meet the N word, get back to me with your results.

Oddly enough you made it about race. I don't care who's kneeling, if they signed up for it they volunteered. If you want to protest, put your money where you mouth is. Kneeling is way too easy. Just ask Reck.

[Spurtacular]

Pretty sure that's exactly how it transpired.

You: "Kneeling is an affront to the country."
Pav: "Only fucking morons would think it's an affront"
You: Posts dictionary definition of affront, claims victory.

Did I miss anything? I do have to admit I pretty much scroll past your posts but I feel like I got the basic gist of the last few.

Nope. Your latest restate is close enough. But it is not representative of your idiotic analogy that was not on point.

[Spurminator]

Why are you talking in absolutes like requirements? Having the right doesn't make you right and it doesn't do much to illustrate your commitment to your cause if you're willing to whore yourself out as long as you get to bitch about the sex before you perform.

It's not a difficult concept, common fucking sense to most people. But you're right, it's not against the law.

"Requirement" can refer to a moral requirement, not necessarily legal. There's nothing wrong with employees objecting to certain aspects of their work situation, even ones they knew about when they started.


Here you go with "right" again.

Because I was responding directly to your use of "right."


Do you not realize the large majority of protocol doesn't revolve around right and wrong, but common sense and decency? Where in the Bill of Rights is the requirement for either? Where is it written in any employment contract that you have to exercise good judgement and have common sense? Where does it forbid being a diva for publicity?

Of course. We obviously disagree with what is moral and decent, and who is more accountable to behave that way.


Where does it state he has to know the objectives or agree with them? You fall back on "rights" when you talk about one side, but "ought to" when you talk about the other. You try to present opinion as fact, partisan spin as incontrovertible truth. I don't buy it.

Seems you're the one who keeps falling back on "rights."

I believe a person in the Military can join the Military with good intentions and still disagree with a war he may be asked to fight.


He's the commander in chief. A government employee. Why the double standard?

How is it a double standard. Name one scenario where Donald Trump will be asked to risk his life for a Cause he finds unjust. One. :lol You fucking Trump apologist, this is ducks-level logic.


Suddenly tradition matters.

That's what you got from that? Maybe you need to be more selective instead of continuing to increase the number of individual replies you're making to each of my posts.

Or we can take this up to 100. I'm good with way.


What compromise? If he's offended, that's on him. Don't participate.

Obviously neither of us knows if he has that option. My point is the player shouldn't have to be the one to come up with the idea of staying in the locker room.


So now law enforcement is a federal thing so the national anthem represents city law enforcement? All that shit happened on Obama's watch yet they didn't boycott him, the leader of the nation they purport to protest.

Don't act ignorant about the history of this protest, you know why Kaepernick started it. If you want to debate his rationale, go dig up one of those old threads. You asked why it would be different for Canada and I told you.

Obama didn't insert him into the demonstration. No one is protesting Trump for being commander in chief over hostile police officers.


They won't. They have zero idea what goes on in other countries, none.

Dumb n!ggers, amirite?


Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Obama was the face of the nation they were protesting against, the leader of the nation that the national anthem represents. Obama didn't take a knee. Keep pretending it's not a fad, we all know better. That's why JV players are doing it and getting booted from the squad.

I don't think so, it was Aug 26th 2016, Obama was the POTUS. CK didn't just become upset that day. In fact, all the shit you talk about basically happened on Obama's watch. Still, athletes were glad to visit the White House.

It's just partisan hack shit, you know it so does everyone else.

Now you're inventing reasons they should protest while also saying they shouldn't protest. It's a weird position to take.

Obama didn't call them sons of bitches who should be fired. Trump did. Period.


Sure they can, before they become millionaire athletes. It's disingenuous to protest the very thing your employer is honoring, when you knew full well what you were signing on for.

What's so difficult to understand about that?

I don't give a shit who kneels, but don't pretend they aren't complicit in all the bullshit as they collect their big paychecks in cities with incredibly high poverty rates. All this fucking kneeling, what did any of them do for any of the families of these innocent victims of the evil police?

Oh yeah you clearly don't give a shit who kneels. :lol

See my first response for the rebuttal to your ludicrous "don't take a job that involves anything you disagree with" position. And as far as charity work, I'm not going to do your googling for you but a lot of these players have done plenty for their communities.


Yeah I know, because I disagree with you I'm a bigot, racist and white supremacist and you're just a kind hearted open minded individual with nothing but love on your mind who uses the N word through artistic license.

Nope, that's not why you're a bigot.


Yes, my grandpappy the native american wanted blacks to be submissive. My sharecropper grandparent was well off.

If that's your family history then I'm not sure what happened to you and how you're so oblivious and dismissive of the experiences of many African Americans.


You're worse at false narrative than Chumpy. You're so far off base with your stereotyping anyone who disagrees with your white washed echo chamber takes on here that you cannot even see the base anymore.

I don't stereotype or call everyone who disagrees with me a bigot. I am calling you one, though. I have your own words to fall back on.


You've not said one correct thing, not one. That's quite an accomplishment.

If you say so.


then you had to go edit your post because you obviously didn't get all the salt out in the first one. You had to add something about how not all blacks are BLM or whatever. Go do a survey, call every black person you meet the N word, get back to me with your results.

I don't remember what edit I made. It's kind of weird that you do. Unless you quoted my reply pre-edit and didn't finish until an hour later. And then you replied with a new post. Speaking of salt.

Anyway, the point I was making there is you claim you're not a bigot but upon seeing me attribute the word "n!gger" to your position, your first thought was some militant black guy going knockout game on me. It betrays a view of black people that seems exclusively derived from watching local news or reading Breitbart, versus having actual personal relationships and interactions with black people. It's Fox News style manufactured outrage.


Oddly enough you made it about race. I don't care who's kneeling, if they signed up for it they volunteered. If you want to protest, put your money where you mouth is. Kneeling is way too easy.

Seems to work just fine. It's all you guys want to talk about.

And this controversy is fundamentally about race, neither you or I have made it so.

[Trill Clinton]

You're not following. There is no requirement for people to refuse a job and paycheck that may involve things they don't agree with. There is an entire NFL Players Association dedicated to challenging the rules that were in place when those players signed their agreements. This is not unusual.

I am not disputing an employer's right to terminate an employee who doesn't follow their rules, even arbitrary ceremonial ones.



Poor leader of the free world, he must be tired of being sent into the line of fire without agreeing with or even necessarily knowing the objectives.

:lol You really just compared Trump to a soldier.



I'm sure if that was an option it probably would have been offered up. As I understand it, players are expected to be on the field during the national anthem, a cherished tradition that has been in place since 2009.

Why is it up to the player to offer a compromise? Do you think a player would refuse to stay in the locker room if he was asked?



Does Canada have any recent problems with law enforcement using unnecessary force, getting off without punishment, and having a significant portion of the country claim the victim deserved to die?

As for other countries, maybe we'll see when we play Russia or the Philippines in exhibition football.



Obama didn't call them sons of bitches who needed to be fired.

You really need to review the timeline here, champ.



No one said he can't. People are saying he shouldn't express this particular opinion in his position, and this is their way of saying it. Millionaire athletes can't have an opinion?



You don't have to use the n word to mean the n word. Your continued reference to the players' paychecks gives you away, along with the ease with which you insult their intelligence by suggesting black people don't understand context. LOL thinking black people are all violent BLM/Antifa types. You must not have a very diverse network.

You want them to be submissive just like your great grandpappy did. Their protests immediately strike you as showy whining because the first thing you see is that they are the rare wealthy black folk, so that's where you target their integrity.

They should be thankful and submissive and do as they're told. It doesn't occur to you that their message isn't about themselves. You love your flag and by golly they should too.

got em

[Pavlov]

Pretty sure that's exactly how it transpired.

You: "Kneeling is an affront to the country."
Pav: "Only fucking morons would think it's an affront"
You: Posts dictionary definition of affront, claims victory.

Did I miss anything?
Nope.:lol

[DMC]

"Requirement" can refer to a moral requirement, not necessarily legal. There's nothing wrong with employees objecting to certain aspects of their work situation, even ones they knew about when they started.



Because I was responding directly to your use of "right."



Of course. We obviously disagree with what is moral and decent, and who is more accountable to behave that way.



Seems you're the one who keeps falling back on "rights."

I believe a person in the Military can join the Military with good intentions and still disagree with a war he may be asked to fight.



How is it a double standard. Name one scenario where Donald Trump will be asked to risk his life for a Cause he finds unjust. One. :lol You fucking Trump apologist, this is ducks-level logic.



That's what you got from that? Maybe you need to be more selective instead of continuing to increase the number of individual replies you're making to each of my posts.

Or we can take this up to 100. I'm good with way.



Obviously neither of us knows if he has that option. My point is the player shouldn't have to be the one to come up with the idea of staying in the locker room.



Don't act ignorant about the history of this protest, you know why Kaepernick started it. If you want to debate his rationale, go dig up one of those old threads. You asked why it would be different for Canada and I told you.

Obama didn't insert him into the demonstration. No one is protesting Trump for being commander in chief over hostile police officers.



Dumb n!ggers, amirite?



Now you're inventing reasons they should protest while also saying they shouldn't protest. It's a weird position to take.

Obama didn't call them sons of bitches who should be fired. Trump did. Period.



Oh yeah you clearly don't give a shit who kneels. :lol

See my first response for the rebuttal to your ludicrous "don't take a job that involves anything you disagree with" position. And as far as charity work, I'm not going to do your googling for you but a lot of these players have done plenty for their communities.



Nope, that's not why you're a bigot.



If that's your family history then I'm not sure what happened to you and how you're so oblivious and dismissive of the experiences of many African Americans.



I don't stereotype or call everyone who disagrees with me a bigot. I am calling you one, though. I have your own words to fall back on.



If you say so.



I don't remember what edit I made. It's kind of weird that you do. Unless you quoted my reply pre-edit and didn't finish until an hour later. And then you replied with a new post. Speaking of salt.

Anyway, the point I was making there is you claim you're not a bigot but upon seeing me attribute the word "n!gger" to your position, your first thought was some militant black guy going knockout game on me. It betrays a view of black people that seems exclusively derived from watching local news or reading Breitbart, versus having actual personal relationships and interactions with black people. It's Fox News style manufactured outrage.



Seems to work just fine. It's all you guys want to talk about.

And this controversy is fundamentally about race, neither you or I have made it so.

I'm not doing your line by line response shit.

My take: If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen

Your take: But you have a right to be in the kitchen and there's nothing wrong with protesting the heat

My take: Divas and prima donnas who make millions and give little if nothing back pretending they have been wronged by the country that pays them millions

Your take: You're a racist homophobe white supremacist redneck biggot, because you disagree with me.

[Spurtacular]

:lol

On the recap, chump. The analogy still wasn't fitting. Fuck, you're dumb.

[Chucho]

On the recap, chump. The analogy still wasn't fitting. Fuck, you're dumb.

And he's taking L's like Weinstein takes liberties with women.

[Pavlov]

On the recap, chump. The analogy still wasn't fitting. Fuck, you're dumb.
What are you even talking about?

[DMC]

What are you even talking about?

Exactly ^

Dumb