What pisses you off about the NFL?

[DeadlyDynasty]

It seems like the NFL is getting progressively worse every year, for a myriad of reasons. I'm not talking about the publicity stunts during the anthem, because if you have NFL Redzone you never have to watch that contrived bullshit in the first place. I'm talking about the product on the field, and here are a few things that have really turned people away (imo)...feel free to add any:

1. Penalties. It's almost as if the refs have egos now, in that they assert their will on every game. There are far too many ticky-tack penalties in key situations, especially holding calls (O & D) and the horribly misused "illegal contact" penalty. It won't end up being a big story because Philly won, but last night's game was an example of a one-sided officiating disaster.

...and what's the point of KR/PR anymore? I don't know the statistics but it "feels" like there's a flag on 70-75% of all returns...completely sucks the excitement out of those plays.

2. Wide receivers/TE's/etc can't catch. I feel like there's been more drops than I could ever remember. You have ONE JOB, catch the fucking ball.

3. Poor tackling...to be fair this isn't new, tackling technique has been declining for almost 30 years now. It still pisses me off when watching a little RB break a big play cause the dipshit defender goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up.

4. Piss-poor QB play. Outside of Rodgers, Brady, and Brees (2 of which could retire at any time), there are no sure things. Every other QB has bouts of wild inconsistency. There's hope with upstarts like Wentz, Watson, Carr, Mariota, Dak...but time will tell. More duds than studs at this position.

[Clipper Nation]

The AFC is boring as fuck and has been since 2003. The Patriots and Steelers both need a nice long 30+ year period of suckage.

The league and casual fans keep trying to shove gimmick QBs down our throat even though they keep getting exposed once defenses have enough tape on them.

[SpursforSix]

Coaches designing plays to deliberately run the offense and not involve my fantasy football players.

[leemajors]

It seems like the NFL is getting progressively worse every year, for a myriad of reasons. I'm not talking about the publicity stunts during the anthem, because if you have NFL Redzone you never have to watch that contrived bullshit in the first place. I'm talking about the product on the field, and here are a few things that have really turned people away (imo)...feel free to add any:

1. Penalties. It's almost as if the refs have egos now, in that they assert their will on every game. There are far too many ticky-tack penalties in key situations, especially holding calls (O & D) and the horribly misused "illegal contact" penalty. It won't end up being a big story because Philly won, but last night's game was an example of a one-sided officiating disaster.

...and what's the point of KR/PR anymore? I don't know the statistics but it "feels" like there's a flag on 70-75% of all returns...completely sucks the excitement out of those plays.

2. Wide receivers/TE's/etc can't catch. I feel like there's been more drops than I could ever remember. You have ONE JOB, catch the fucking ball.

3. Poor tackling...to be fair this isn't new, tackling technique has been declining for almost 30 years now. It still pisses me off when watching a little RB break a big play cause the dipshit defender goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up.

4. Piss-poor QB play. Outside of Rodgers, Brady, and Brees (2 of which could retire at any time), there are no sure things. Every other QB has bouts of wild inconsistency. There's hope with upstarts like Wentz, Watson, Carr, Mariota, Dak...but time will tell. More duds than studs at this position.

Penalties for sure. And the NFL constantly adjusting rules regarding celebrations of any sort. As long as it doesn't delay the game, who cares.

[SpursforSix]

Penalties for sure. And the NFL constantly adjusting rules regarding celebrations of any sort. As long as it doesn't delay the game, who cares.

Yeah...but now I'm sick of the orchestrated celebrations. I'd rather someone just score and do whatever they want. Instead of the team celebrations where all I can think about is that they actually spent time working on it together.

[Darth_Pelican]

Agreed on all of OPs points. Also:

1. Monday Night Football has gone to shit for about a decade now. MNF used to be the biggest game of the week, pitting the best matchup of the week. Now, it's usually 1 good team vs. 1 putrid team. Sometimes, it's even 2 bad teams. Rarely is it 2 of the elite teams matching up against each other. Also, the Sunday night FLEX scheduling needs to start earlier. No one wants to watch an 0-5 Giants team with all of their WRs injured play in primetime this weekend.

2. The instant replay system. Why does the ref have to go look at the replay and make a decision on whether him or a crew member got a call wrong? These refs have egos, and they aren't going to admit that they made a mistake unless it's obvious. Let an official in the press box control the replay decision. That's what College Football does. It's quicker and they get the call right more often because the ref on the field doesn't have to swallow his pride.

3. Overtime rules. So dumb. So if you lose the coin toss, and the other team scores a TD, they win. But if they only score a FG, the game continues. LOL. Let both teams get the ball, maybe at midfield (not the 25 yard line like in college). Play it out like they do in college after that. And ties should not exist. This isn't povertyball.

4. Homefield in the playoffs needs to be addressed. Why should a shitty division winner with a 9-7 record get home field advantage over a strong 12-4 Wild Card team? I'll admit that I'm still salty about that 7-9 Seahawks team getting to play at home in freezing weather against the 11-5 Saints and pulling off the upset. No way the Saints lose in the comfort of the dome.

[leemajors]

Agreed on all of OPs points. Also:

1. Monday Night Football has gone to shit for about a decade now. MNF used to be the biggest game of the week, pitting the best matchup of the week. Now, it's usually 1 good team vs. 1 putrid team. Sometimes, it's even 2 bad teams. Rarely is it 2 of the elite teams matching up against each other. Also, the Sunday night FLEX scheduling needs to start earlier. No one wants to watch an 0-5 Giants team with all of their WRs injured play in primetime this weekend.

2. The instant replay system. Why does the ref have to go look at the replay and make a decision on whether him or a crew member got a call wrong? These refs have egos, and they aren't going to admit that they made a mistake unless it's obvious. Let an official in the press box control the replay decision. That's what College Football does. It's quicker and they get the call right more often because the ref on the field doesn't have to swallow his pride.

3. Overtime rules. So dumb. So if you lose the coin toss, and the other team scores a TD, they win. But if they only score a FG, the game continues. LOL. Let both teams get the ball, maybe at midfield (not the 25 yard line like in college). Play it out like they do in college after that. And ties should not exist. This isn't povertyball.

4. Homefield in the playoffs needs to be addressed. Why should a shitty division winner with a 9-7 record get home field advantage over a strong 12-4 Wild Card team? I'll admit that I'm still salty about that 7-9 Seahawks team getting to play at home in freezing weather against the 11-5 Saints and pulling off the upset. No way the Saints lose in the comfort of the dome.

It's sucked about as long as Thursday Night Football has been around then.

[Clipper Nation]

Why bother having divisions if there's no advantage to winning them?

[JoeTait75]

Take a wild guess.

[Darth_Pelican]

Why bother having divisions if there's no advantage to winning them?

Well winning your division should get you in the playoffs. But if your division is shitty then why get rewarded with a home game vs. a wild card team with a better record?

[Chris]

Players worrying about their fantasy numbers instead of the team. Refs orchestrating the game. Late flags because of the crowd reaction. Holding should be eliminated, it's a dumb penalty. I also liked it better when we weren't concerned with who the players were fucking during the off-season.

[Mark Celibate]

Take a wild guess.

rofl

[spurraider21]

i hate when people make a big deal about what happens pregame when nobody is tuned in anyway

[AlexJones]

Kicking a field goal on the 3 yard line.

[unleashbaynes]

Faggots who disrespect the flag by caring what other people do during the anthem.

[SpursforSix]

Well winning your division should get you in the playoffs. But if your division is shitty then why get rewarded with a home game vs. a wild card team with a better record?

Sure. But how do you quantify if your division is shitty. I mean...it's possible. But I don't think anyone wants to see the seeding based on metrics.

[chunticakes]

The league needs to do away with Thursday Night Football as well.

[monosylab1k]

Roger Goodell is the biggest problem. A shitty commish will sink a league faster than anything else.

[unleashbaynes]

Roger Goodell is the biggest problem. A shitty commish will sink a league faster than anything else.

Yeah i hate when people say that the league is making a ton of money under his watch. The product on the field has been so good that it was gonna be profitable no matter who was in charge. I think the NFL makes money in spite of him, not because of him. Hopefully JJ and Kraft can get that fuckbag ousted.

[IronMexican]

I like TNF. The games have definitely been better this year


Agree about Goodell, though. Crazy how much money he's made.

[Mark Celibate]

It seems like the NFL is getting progressively worse every year, for a myriad of reasons. I'm not talking about the publicity stunts during the anthem, because if you have NFL Redzone you never have to watch that contrived bullshit in the first place. I'm talking about the product on the field, and here are a few things that have really turned people away (imo)...feel free to add any:

1. Penalties. It's almost as if the refs have egos now, in that they assert their will on every game. There are far too many ticky-tack penalties in key situations, especially holding calls (O & D) and the horribly misused "illegal contact" penalty. It won't end up being a big story because Philly won, but last night's game was an example of a one-sided officiating disaster.

...and what's the point of KR/PR anymore? I don't know the statistics but it "feels" like there's a flag on 70-75% of all returns...completely sucks the excitement out of those plays.

2. Wide receivers/TE's/etc can't catch. I feel like there's been more drops than I could ever remember. You have ONE JOB, catch the fucking ball.

3. Poor tackling...to be fair this isn't new, tackling technique has been declining for almost 30 years now. It still pisses me off when watching a little RB break a big play cause the dipshit defender goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up.

4. Piss-poor QB play. Outside of Rodgers, Brady, and Brees (2 of which could retire at any time), there are no sure things. Every other QB has bouts of wild inconsistency. There's hope with upstarts like Wentz, Watson, Carr, Mariota, Dak...but time will tell. More duds than studs at this position.

Same with basketball too when you have genetic freaks like Dwight Howard who can't even develop proper fundamentals/consistent free throws after 10 years in the NBA. I don't know if the NFL has always had guys dropping routine catches like this, but yeah it's pretty bad. Most of the time they just jog back to the huddle like nothing's wrong.

In general, the stupid plays have always pissed me off (running backwards after the catch when all you need is two yards for the first down, taunting penalties that cost your team 15 yards, front flips into the endzone, etc) but I guess that will never change when the majority of the players have IQs under 90

[monosylab1k]

Same with basketball too when you have genetic freaks like Dwight Howard who can't even develop proper fundamentals/consistent free throws after 10 years in the NBA. I don't know if the NFL has always had guys dropping routine catches like this, but yeah it's pretty bad. Most of the time they just jog back to the huddle like nothing's wrong.

In general, the stupid plays have always pissed me off (running backwards after the catch when all you need is two yards for the first down, taunting penalties that cost your team 15 yards, front flips into the endzone, etc) but I guess that will never change when the majority of the players have IQs under 90

It’s the youtube/espn mentality of this crop of receivers. You can’t just catch a 10 yd slant and go down. You have to catch it one-handed, hurdle two defenders, and break it for an 80 yd run. They don’t bother to remember that step one is to fucking catch it. That’s another reason why untalented guys like Welker and Beasley can have productive careers, simply because they’re the few guys left who aren’t trying to make a Youtube Highlight Mix every time the ball comes their way.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah i hate when people say that the league is making a ton of money under his watch. The product on the field has been so good that it was gonna be profitable no matter who was in charge. I think the NFL makes money in spite of him, not because of him. Hopefully JJ and Kraft can get that fuckbag ousted.

I don't understand why the owners are OK with him going on vendettas against players like Brady, Peterson and Zeke knowing it'll result in a court battle. It doesn't make the NFL any more money, all it does is make a lockout more likely during the next CBA negotiation.

[The Gemini Method]

Color Rush Uniforms.

[spurraider21]

I don't understand why the owners are OK with him going on vendettas against players like Brady, Peterson and Zeke knowing it'll result in a court battle. It doesn't make the NFL any more money, all it does is make a lockout more likely during the next CBA negotiation.
To prevent every piece of shit from challenging every suspension in court

[Trainwreck2100]

It seems like the NFL is getting progressively worse every year, for a myriad of reasons. I'm not talking about the publicity stunts during the anthem, because if you have NFL Redzone you never have to watch that contrived bullshit in the first place. I'm talking about the product on the field, and here are a few things that have really turned people away (imo)...feel free to add any:

1. Penalties. It's almost as if the refs have egos now, in that they assert their will on every game. There are far too many ticky-tack penalties in key situations, especially holding calls (O & D) and the horribly misused "illegal contact" penalty. It won't end up being a big story because Philly won, but last night's game was an example of a one-sided officiating disaster.

...and what's the point of KR/PR anymore? I don't know the statistics but it "feels" like there's a flag on 70-75% of all returns...completely sucks the excitement out of those plays.

2. Wide receivers/TE's/etc can't catch. I feel like there's been more drops than I could ever remember. You have ONE JOB, catch the fucking ball.

3. Poor tackling...to be fair this isn't new, tackling technique has been declining for almost 30 years now. It still pisses me off when watching a little RB break a big play cause the dipshit defender goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up.

4. Piss-poor QB play. Outside of Rodgers, Brady, and Brees (2 of which could retire at any time), there are no sure things. Every other QB has bouts of wild inconsistency. There's hope with upstarts like Wentz, Watson, Carr, Mariota, Dak...but time will tell. More duds than studs at this position.

I must counterpoint:
1)The have to call penalties, cause if not you'll have everybody be the seahawks and just foul all the time like they do at home
2)Blame the shit/inconsistent qbs, brady/brees/rodgers' receivers can catch just fine, but when a wr doesn't know if he has to do a handstand to catch a pass because it was put on the wrong side of their body or behind them or 3 yards in front of them they're going to make mistakes.
3)Blame the concussions, and guys going for strips, but yeah this one is the easiest fix.
4) lol dak

[Avante]

You cannot play football without trying to destroy, that is the game. It's not nice, and it's not suppose to be. It is a war out there. So to try and play the game safely......sucks~~~

Wanna be a football hero, just knock the opposing QB out of the game, yep.....HERO~~~ When ya hear players say.....not looking to hurt anyone...BULLSHIT~~~~~~~~ Yes you are. Sure, not looking to cripple anyone, but knock out of a game....yep.

Trying to play a violent game with less violence....not good.

Nobody has to climb up on that bull, climb into the ring/octagon, join the military, if ya do ya know the risks. Don't play football if you're all worried about injury.

[DeadlyDynasty]

5. Injuries...it's a league full of china dolls now.

6. Offensive coordinators who think they're smarter than everyone else. Hey dipshit, if you have a scrub QB then under no circumstances should you be passing on first down.

7. Bubble screens...faggy plays that only work against stupid, undisciplined defenses.

[Avante]

Wouldn't go with.....pisses me off, but would go with......are you serious? Those TD celebrations look totally stupid, where is the creativity with cool and class? All we are getting is ridiculous looking bullshit. And if you are way down, ya might wanna cool the silliness anyway.

Homer Jones was a 9.4 sprinter at Texas Southern back in the 60's, he was one of the few to beat Bob Hayes, he did that at an NAIA meet at 200m. He was the first player to run a kickoff back to score on MNF. And.......the guy who started it all, yep.....the daddy of ...THE SPIKE. He was a WR for the Giants and the Browns.

[benefactor]

Being a fan of this team tbh

[Blake]

Roger Goodell is the biggest problem. A shitty commish will sink a league faster than anything else.

That right there

[Blake]

I'm tired of all the replay booth stuff. I get it, I'm just tired of the halt in play

[Robz4000]

Teams that are in constant rebuild or consistently underachieve. I know it's fun to joke about curses and bad luck happens, but when a team is consistently shit for decades there's a serious problem (ownership).

[Blake]

Yeah it would completely suck to be a Browns fan. I honestly don't know how they sell tickets to that shit

[spurraider21]

I'm tired of all the replay booth stuff. I get it, I'm just tired of the halt in play
yeah. they should just do live reviews from HQ in new york and instantly transmit results to refs on the field, instead of having them go to the booth for 2 minutes and making the decision to overturn their own call

[Chris]

Joe Buck

[Robz4000]

Joe Buck

Forgot about det. He's prolly my overall #1 problem in sports tbh.

[Chucho]

3 seconds of action per 40 seconds of ads.

Essentially all top commentating guys for each network.

[DeadlyDynasty]

8. Receivers who have the easy first down, but instead cut back and try to jigaboo their way for more yards, losing the 1st down in the process.

[Mark Celibate]

8. Receivers who have the easy first down, but instead cut back and try to jigaboo their way for more yards, losing the 1st down in the process.

Yep, there are millions of other similar stupid plays that are annoying but taunting penalties would be the most intolerable for me as a head coach. There's just zero reason for it if you're a disciplined team. I'd bench the player for atleast a quarter and I bet you Belichick does something like that. Or fine them.

I understand if you scored the game winning touchdown with 30 seconds left but the only possible explanation for it after routine first downs or tackles is just being ignorant. Gotta take away playing time or a check. A close second, is the premature celebrating before getting the touchdown ESPECIALLY idiots doing front flips into the endzone

[Canyonero]

That Joe Flacco isn't considered elite.

[unleashbaynes]

Well lets see whats bothering me this week.

-fake care for players health(concussion "protocol")
-fake gestures toward the military to appease the "muh troops" portion of the fanbase
-owners having mean girls battles
-declining viewership/revenues
-commish who enables the above, then asks for a raise and private jet
-the martellus bennett situation

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Bennetts are horrible human beings. Liars and dramaqueens

[unleashbaynes]

The Bennetts are horrible human beings. Liars and dramaqueens

I'm not saying i hope any bennetts break their leg. Just that there are worse guys for it to happen to.

[Clipper Nation]

Overrated quarterbacks like Scam Newton, Matt Ryan, Struggle Wilson, and Dak Prescott being promoted as "elite" by the league and its media partners. They really think their fans are all too stupid to understand what we're watching.

After all the hype about "parity" this year, guess who's back on top of the AFC: the Patriots and Steelers, for the trillionth consecutive season. The rest of the season is going to be another joyless slog to another Patriots championship. This product is awful.

[spurraider21]

Fair weather fans tbh

[Fabbs]

The "that's not able to be called on review."

We all saw on replay that Player A fumbled the ball, but because of blah blah blah it cannot be called.

[Avante]

Nobody having the balls to say.....

There wouldn't be soooooooooooooooo many penalties if the NFL wasn't 70% black. They are way too macho and reckless but, since they can run....they must be there.

[Avante]

Overrated quarterbacks like Scam Newton, Matt Ryan, Struggle Wilson, and Dak Prescott being promoted as "elite" by the league and its media partners. They really think their fans are all too stupid to understand what we're watching.

After all the hype about "parity" this year, guess who's back on top of the AFC: the Patriots and Steelers, for the trillionth consecutive season. The rest of the season is going to be another joyless slog to another Patriots championship. This product is awful.


How can a guy who has led the NFL with his....110.1 QB rating, owns NFL records, has won more games than anyone at the same stage of a career, won a SB, a yard away from winning two, played in four pro bowls, is rated high by his peers be overrated?

Dude, what do you do when those announcers talk Wilson up as does all those talk show cats? Dude, why ignore my experience? Seen them all since the late 50's, trust me Wilson is fantastic.

Google....is Russell Wilson elite....is Russell Wilson a top five QB......come on guy do somethings besides just your opnion,ok?


Compare his stats, playoff success, wins, vs anyone, ok? Bone up on this stuff, ok?

[Arcadian]

Yeah...but now I'm sick of the orchestrated celebrations. I'd rather someone just score and do whatever they want. Instead of the team celebrations where all I can think about is that they actually spent time working on it together.
Indeed, this is fucking gay. How do a bunch of grown men take valuable time out of their schedules to practice synchronized celebrations and actually think that's cool? I can admit when some of them are humorous, but still...you had to choreograph and perform that shit. :lol

[spurraider21]

ive found some of the celebrations hilarious tbh :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEYmtvxIQy8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j5MDqvLeLg

[MultiTroll]

Anyone watching less this year?
For whatever reason(s).

I am.
Not missing it.
At.all.

[Avante]

This......ok gang let's figure out some cool/funny TD celebrations, ok.................totally sucks. Yep...EL STUPID.

All of them suck which tells us......just play football guys, ok? Being creative....nay~~~

[Avante]

Anyone watching less this year?
For whatever reason(s).

I am.
Not missing it.
At.all.

I can understand somebody new to the sport being turned off with todays game. But all us long time fans will never NEVER NEVER miss a game if possible.

I have missed......0....games I could have seen on TV this season. That has been going on for a long long time.

BUT.............if a rival league did show up, and they made it real clear they weren't concerned with safety, ya got one replay per half per team. One foot ln bounds for a reception, no FG's ouside the 20, all conversions two point plays. The NFL would be in trouble.

I played in some HS alumni games. So we all had to sign a form releashing the school of any obligations, it was all on us. That's all it takes. Ya wanna play a dangerous game, ok, if not......don't.

Not concerned about Willie smacking his hoe around, not the leagues problem.

Changed my mind.....no replays at all. If a mistake is made, oh well. And.....no phones on the sidelines, the QB calls the plays as does your defense QB. And....holding will be allowed as long as ya don't grab and throw someone down.

[Avante]

It's time to simply allow holding on kick returns. It's getting ridiculous now.

That or make it real clear......just get in the way, don't worry about a return, Far more worried about a penalty.

[SpursforSix]

Yep, there are millions of other similar stupid plays that are annoying but taunting penalties would be the most intolerable for me as a head coach. There's just zero reason for it if you're a disciplined team. I'd bench the player for atleast a quarter and I bet you Belichick does something like that. Or fine them.

I understand if you scored the game winning touchdown with 30 seconds left but the only possible explanation for it after routine first downs or tackles is just being ignorant. Gotta take away playing time or a check. A close second, is the premature celebrating before getting the touchdown ESPECIALLY idiots doing front flips into the endzone

Yeah...exactly. 3rd and 1 and some RB gets a yard in a half. Then he has to get in a clear spot and indicate 1st down for everyone.

And more irritating...

A cornerback gets beat but either the QB overthrows or the WR drops the ball. So then the CB has to celebrate and beat on his chest.

I can't remember where the line came from but it was a coach somewhere that said, "act like you've been there before".

[Blake]

3. Overtime rules. So dumb. So if you lose the coin toss, and the other team scores a TD, they win. But if they only score a FG, the game continues. LOL. Let both teams get the ball, maybe at midfield (not the 25 yard line like in college). Play it out like they do in college after that. And ties should not exist. This isn't povertyball.

^

[Chris Fall]

Sudden death overtime only makes sense in sports in which scoring is inherently rare and anemic, like soccer.

For football, especially in the playoffs, there should be no sudden death. Even the worse teams in the NFL are going to score 14-20 points most games. And in the playoffs, those bad offensive teams won’t generally be there. It doesn’t take much to score a FG. No sudden death. No first touchdown wins. Just add another timed extra period and play until 0:00. Don’t want to make it a full 15, fine. Make it 10 minutes. But sudden death doesn’t make sense in a sport where scoring is not rare or difficult.

[lefty]

The game itself is fine

But 3 hour broadcasts for 10 minutes of actual action?
GTFO with that shit :lol

:lol commercials with football breaks

[SpursforSix]

:lol people barely made a peep about overtime rules until the Patriots got a couple W’s off it, now suddenly it’s the most unfair bullshit ever.

that's bullshit. It's a universally disliked rule regardless of who is playing.

Quit playing the victim and enjoy your fucking Super Bowl.

[Will Hunting]

The OT rule is stupid though, no one would complain about it being unfair if both teams get the chance to score, and you shouldn't get that much of an advantage from winning a coin flip.

The college rules would be stupid because they remove any need to have disciplined special teams and make it so teams don't need to sustain a 70+ yard drive, but I think modifying the rules to make it so each team gets the ball makes sense.

[Will Hunting]

There's definitely selective outrage about this though :lol

Having sympathy for Mahomes never getting the ball is one thing, but the crocodile tears over Matt Ryan :cry never getting a chance :cry after he blew a 25 point lead were hilarious to see.

[Will Hunting]

I still think the Patriots win in overtime either way though. The Chiefs D had been on the field for 40 minutes in regulation and was exhausted, the Patriots would have been able to score touchdowns at will, and Flores would have been able to pull a redzone stop out of his ass with a timely blitz that led to Mahomes being sacked.

[Blake]

:cry mAhOmEs DiDnT eVeN gEt A cHaNcE! :cry

:lol I'd say it's a ridiculously stupid OT system even if the situation reversed and the Pats lost.

NFL fans lost out on seeing the duel continue. Now we can only imagine what might have happened had StPatrick got the ball another time.

[spurraider21]

The game itself is fine

But 3 hour broadcasts for 10 minutes of actual action?
GTFO with that shit :lol

:lol commercials with football breaks
compared to povertyball with like 3 hours of meaningful action every 4 years?

[spurraider21]

NFL's OT rules have never been ideal, but i think it's been fine since they did away with the first drive field goal stuff.

we've seen teams elect to kick in OT instead of receive... it's happened 11 times in league history (and most of those happened BEFORE they took away the opening possession field goal bullshit) and the team electing to kick has won 6 of those 11

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2013/11/25/electing-kick-overtime-isnt-crazy/

[Ghazi]

I think the OT rule is perfectly fine. I thought it was lame when you could walkoff FG for fame but reqjiring the first team to score a TD is reasonable... play D you feel me?

[Ghazi]

As someone suggested, maybe just having an exrra 10 or 15 minute period added would be better, but the current OT rule isnt that bad or controversial IMO

[spurraider21]

just adding an extra period wont solve the problem. the team winning the flip still has the decided advantage. they either have more possessions or equal possessions. the patriots first drive of yesterday's game lasted for 8 minutes and ended in a touchdown. what if they just repeated that in overtime, and instead of scoring a TD, took 3 extra kneel-downs to kill clock and kick a field goal?

the coinflip at the start of the game matters less because one team starts each half with possession anyway.

the only way to actually balance is to go with a college style format. or you could get even more gimmicky and say there are no kicks allowed (no field goals or punts)

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know what the solution is and the current format is much better than the old rules, but I'd still like to see a change..yesterday would have been more fun if Mahomes had a chance, could have made a great game even better..

Something like Rodgers vs. the Cardinals is annoying, for instance..people like seeing great QBs with the game on the line, not a defense blowing it..even better in yesterday's case, where you would have had Brady and Mahomes going back and forth until one of them made a mistake..

The problem is that you can't expect human beings to play football all night, they'll die:lol

[SpursforSix]

Yeah the rule isn’t perfect, I’m just pointing out that current overtime rules commentary used to be “Well this isn’t the most ideal situation” but now that the Patriots benefit from it the universal reaction is “DEFCON 5 CHANGE THESE RULES IMMEDIATELY”

:lol

You're fucking crazy. I'm not going to spend the time doing it but go back and look for the comments about the current OT rule. Find where people were saying, "it's not ideal". Instead of "this is a stupid rule".

[SpursforSix]

and it's not about the stupid Patriots anyway.
It's about playoff football and not letting the most exciting QB in the NFL onto the field.

[Mitch]

The OT rule never bothered me :lol

but yeah, it's a pretty flawed rule. If you have two teams that can score at will then whoever has better luck wins the OT. Pretty common for two teams with shit defense but good offense to meet eachother.

[SpursforSix]

You’re the one claiming everyone here was already bitching about OT rules, you find the fucking quotes :lmao

I think you were the one that first made a point about it. You should do it. I'm obviously too busy and don't have the time.

[SpursforSix]

The OT rule never bothered me :lol

but yeah, it's a pretty flawed rule. If you have two teams that can score at will then whoever has better luck wins the OT. Pretty common for two teams with shit defense but good offense to meet eachother.

At the least, change the rules for the playoffs.

[Blake]

You’re the one claiming everyone here was already bitching about OT rules, you find the fucking quotes :lmao

Well I bumped Saints fan quote from October 2017 so there's 1

[spurraider21]

mono with his own version of the conservative persecution complex he loves to always laugh about tbh :lol

imo he should take a couple of hours off, have dok mix in a few more posts, they can 69 each other like they always do, and then at least mono wont look like the crazy guy yelling that everybody else is crazy.

[spurraider21]

:cry it was a fumble :cry
:lmao posting the same thing 20 times last 2 days with the sole intention that i would respond
:lmao rent free

[spurraider21]

:lmao still crying 20 years later
:lmao resorting to “rent free”
:lmao posting the same thing 20 times...
:lmao "yeah maybe if i post it THIS time i can bait that guy. nailed it"

[Will Hunting]

:lol spurraider bringing me up when I wasn’t even a part of this
:lol that’s what I’d actually call rent free

[spurraider21]

:lmao still watching gifs of the tuck like it’s the Zapruder film
:lmao blaming your shitty franchise being shitty for 20 years on one play
it was a botched call. those happen all the time. what makes it frustrating is when people still pretend it wasn't a botched call.

there's no reason why a saints fan would ever have to show a video/gif of the PI, because it was a clear as day blown call. nobody is gonna say "nah, i can see why they didnt throw a flag."

and i dont think i ever blamed the raiders downfall on the tuck. its ok, keep reaching. at least dok popped so you can high 5 each other

[Will Hunting]

:lol another unprovoked post mentioning me

[lefty]

compared to povertyball with like 3 hours of meaningful action every 4 years?

Lol fat linebackers
:lol special teams

[Millennial_Messiah]

Brady lived by the tuck in '01, died by the Tuck in '07. It happens.

[Play Boban]

If Mahomes wanted to get a chance, he shouldn't have let it go to OT in the first place. Maybe they should've went for a Hail Mary to win it at the end instead of going for the field goal tbh.

[Blake]

Maybe they should've went for a Hail Mary to win it at the end instead of going for the field goal tbh.

Exactly why the ot rules are ridiculously stupid.

College ot may not be perfect but it's very fair.

[monosylab1k]

1087751408928153600

[Blake]

You really think this ot system is perfect as it is?

[monosylab1k]

You really think this ot system is perfect as it is?

No, definitely not, but I also never thought it was the horribly unfair system that people started making it out to be around 10:00 PM Sunday night. I just don’t want the college system in the pros, I think that’s a ridiculously gimmicky system. Maybe a system where both teams get a shot at the ball, and no kicking scores are allowed. So you have to play for a TD and you have to go for two.

[Blake]

.

[Blake]

Maybe a system where both teams get a shot at the ball, and no kicking scores are allowed. So you have to play for a TD and you have to go for two.

Sounds good to me as long as Patrick would get a shot too.

People have been saying it's a bad system for as long as I can remember

[monosylab1k]

Sounds good to me as long as Patrick would get a shot too.

People have been saying it's a bad system for as long as I can remember

Back when a FG could end the game in sudden death, yeah everyone complained, and that system lasted for decades. But after 2009 when they changed the rules, I heard almost no complaints until the Patriots started benefiting from it.

[FrostKing]

The game itself is fine

But 3 hour broadcasts for 10 minutes of actual action?
GTFO with that shit :lol

:lol commercials with football breaks
And the commercials lecture how evil of a man you are

[benefactor]

Maybe a system where both teams get a shot at the ball, and no kicking scores are allowed. So you have to play for a TD and you have to go for two.
I suggested this exact same thing to a friend of mine yesterday.:tu

[Will Hunting]

I think it’d be fine the way it is if you just gave both teams chances. If you’re able to kick a field goal and then hold the other team to no points when they get the ball that should be enough to win.

[baseline bum]

I like the NFL's OT rule ever since they got rid of kicking a FG to win on the first possession. No matter what whoever wins the coin toss gets a huge advantage unless the OT is just a second full game.

[Darth_Pelican]

No review system for obvious penalties like this that decide the NFC Champion and taint this year's Super Bowl:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13703312/NoFlag.gif

[Mark Celibate]

Sudden death overtime only makes sense in sports in which scoring is inherently rare and anemic, like soccer.

For football, especially in the playoffs, there should be no sudden death. Even the worse teams in the NFL are going to score 14-20 points most games. And in the playoffs, those bad offensive teams won’t generally be there. It doesn’t take much to score a FG. No sudden death. No first touchdown wins. Just add another timed extra period and play until 0:00. Don’t want to make it a full 15, fine. Make it 10 minutes. But sudden death doesn’t make sense in a sport where scoring is not rare or difficult.

I’m with you on your last two sentences. Just make it an extra quarter or 10 minutes...if it’s still tied THEN go to sudden death (in the playoffs). You’re right in the fact that scoring is too frequent to do sudden death. I think the main argument is that the NFL game is too taxing, but plenty of OT’s go 10+ minutes as is.

[MultiTroll]

failure to use replay on judgement decisions ever since replay was available.
Like the Saints - Rams.
Take 15 seconds in the replay booth and move the F on.

[Will Hunting]

Having an extra period would be fair, I’d just make it 15 minutes instead of 10. At only 10 minutes you’re more likely to have a scenario where one team gets 2 possession and another team only gets 1. If it’s still tied after that then I’d go to soccer style sudden death where each team gets 5 chances to score from the 5 yard line and whoever gets in the endzone the most wins.

[DAF86]

No review system for obvious penalties like this that decide the NFC Champion and taint this year's Super Bowl:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13703312/NoFlag.gif

Handcuffing themselves on plays like these is indeed pretty retarded, tbh. Just like when the NBA refs have to check whose ball it is and they see that they missed a blatant foul but can't do anything about it.

[Fabbs]

OT whatever system is used, both teams have to see the ball on offense at least once.

[FrostKing]

compared to povertyball with like 3 hours of meaningful action every 4 years?
Hey, when I watch a Soccer match my pub tab is 3 beers

To digest an entire NFL game I need a couch and 12 beers/liquor

But you probably consider watching close ups of replays as "action"

[Blake]

Hey, when I watch a Soccer match my pub tab is 3 beers

To digest an entire NFL game I need a couch and 12 beers/liquor

But you probably consider watching close ups of replays as "action"

He said "meaningful"

[FrostKing]

He said "meaningful"
There were how many Touchdowns scored in the NFC Title Game? - 4

In a 4+ hour telecast

So much scoring. So much action.

[Blake]

There were how many Touchdowns scored in the NFC Title Game? - 4

In a 4+ hour telecast

So much scoring. So much action.

A first down is in effect "a goal". It's meaningful action.

I'll take the 15 minutes of actual ball play in football over the grind of a 1-nil soccer match all day every day

[FrostKing]

A first down is in effect "a goal". It's meaningful action.

I'll take the 15 minutes of actual ball play in football over the grind of a 1-nil soccer match all day every day
A competed pass in Soccer is in effect a QB pass completion

Majority of soccer games are 2-2 which is exactly what the NFC Title Game was.

Your scores (6 for a goal lol) are bloated just like your shitty beer

[Bad Takes]

A competed pass in Soccer is in effect a QB pass completion

Majority of soccer games are 2-2 which is exactly what the NFC Title Game was.

Your scores (6 for a goal lol) are bloated just like your shitty beer

Where do you live?

[Blake]

A competed pass in Soccer is in effect a QB pass completion

Lol no

[Blake]

I'll watch soccer if they get rid of the goalie and make it illegal for defensive players to be in the goalie box at all.

[Mark Celibate]

A competed pass in Soccer is in effect a QB pass completion

Majority of soccer games are 2-2 which is exactly what the NFC Title Game was.

Your scores (6 for a goal lol) are bloated just like your shitty beer

Not really taking sides here, but the difference is that in football a first down is a bigger deal than a completed pass in Soccer because it's harder to get those yards back if you're the other team. In Soccer, a 20 yard pass doesn't mean much because it can be canceled out a few seconds later when the other team steals it. So after awhile, Pablo and Juan just slapping the ball across the field feels boring because 90% of the time you'll just give it back to the other team without scoring

In football though, you have to go through the whole force the other team to punt, then march back down yourself cycle before you get to the same spot on the field going the other way.

[Blake]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/775/189/5e8.gif

QB pass completions tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Hey, when I watch a Soccer match my pub tab is 3 beers

To digest an entire NFL game I need a couch and 12 beers/liquor

But you probably consider watching close ups of replays as "action"
:lol You're American, not Polish. You don't have a "pub tab."

[Clipper Nation]

A competed pass in Soccer is in effect a QB pass completion

Majority of soccer games are 2-2 which is exactly what the NFC Title Game was.
Congrats on two of the dumbest statements I've ever read about sports.

[Mitch]

Congrats on two of the dumbest statements I've ever read about sports.

Tbh, it's hard to beat the shit Andrew posts here :lol

[Fabbs]

Cost.
Shove your $12 beers and $25+ parking fees up your asses. How much is parking when you go to NFL game?

I got comped admittance from 2007 til the Chargers left. No way I'd pay those scam artist Spanos.

Chargers usually had some decent snatch on the cheer teams tho, will give them that.

[Will Hunting]

:lol You're American, not Polish. You don't have a "pub tab."
:lol

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/Xt8k5Bn/51029.jpg

NFL :lol

Watching men twerk

[chunticakes]

Tbh, it's hard to beat the shit Andrew posts here :lol

Yeah I thought Andrew and Fapps had the market cornered now that ol' Larry is gone but Frost Tips is making his case for most retarded poster. All three of them are neck and neck, tbh..

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/Xt8k5Bn/51029.jpg

NFL :lol

Watching men twerk

Lol you can't look away

[SpursforSix]

Yeah I thought Andrew and Fapps had the market cornered now that ol' Larry is gone but Frost Tips is making his case for most retarded poster. All three of them are neck and neck, tbh..

Bend over, I’ll fucking show you retarded.

[chunticakes]

Bend over, I’ll fucking show you retarded.

Bend over I'll fuckin show you neck is better, tbh..

[midnightpulp]

Haven't caught much NFL this season nor last, but what was turning me off was how comparatively one-dimensionally pass happy the league was becoming, with rule changes that stranglehold the defense, all in the name of keeping the Fantasy Football tap running. And commercials. I've read they've addressed those this season, though. I'm slowly coming back, however. The NBA is unwatchable.

[FrostKing]

A first down is in effect "a goal". It's meaningful action.

I'll take the 15 minutes of actual ball play in football over the grind of a 1-nil soccer match all day every day
Just googled score

World Cup final was "7-7" at this point.

You've already digested an hour of commercials. How many trips to the toilet? In classic American style it is a given you didn't flush