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monosylab1k
10-19-2017, 10:19 PM
lol Cubby

http://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-loses-bid-to-have-his-criminal/article_4d73e31a-b52a-11e7-8960-4f6eb05f81a3.html

Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio loses bid to have his criminal record wiped clean


Saying the president can't erase facts, a federal judge on Thursday rejected a bid by former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio to have all record of his criminal conviction wiped out.

Susan Bolton said she already dismissed the criminal contempt case against Arpaio following the decision by President Trump to issue a pardon. That saved the former sheriff, who had been found guilty, from the possibility of going to jail for up to six months.

But Bolton rebuffed Arpaio's claim that the pardon also entitled him to have the entire conviction erased.


"The power to pardon is an executive prerogative of mercy, not of judicial record-keeping," Bolton wrote, quoting earlier court precedent.

"The pardon undoubtedly spared defendant from any punishment that might otherwise have been imposed," the judge continued. "It did not, however, revise the historical facts of this case."

Arpaio, however, is not willing to simply enjoy his freedom.

"It's not going to be dropped," he told Capitol Media Services.

Jack Wilenchik, one of his attorneys, said the relief the sheriff is seeking is important.

He said Arpaio intended to appeal his conviction, if for no other reason than Bolton had said he was not entitled to a jury trial. Wilenchik said he believes Arpaio would have won.

But now, with the pardon, there's no opportunity to appeal, meaning the record of the conviction remains. And that, he said would be something that could be used against the former sheriff in any future criminal or civil case.

The conviction stems from the years' old case filed against Arpaio and the department he led, accusing the agency of having policies of stopping motorists who look like they might be in the country illegally, whether or not they had violated any state laws. Deputies then would hand the people over to federal immigration officials.

U.S. District Judge Murray Snow found Arpaio and the department guilty of illegal racial profiling and he ordered it to stop. Snow later concluded the department violated his orders and referred Arpaio, two aides and a former attorney for charges of criminal contempt.

The Department of Justice, then under President Obama, decided to pursue only Arpaio. And Bolton, who handled that case, used his own words and press releases to show he intentionally ignored Snow's orders.

But before he could be sentenced, Trump interceded. And Bolton concluded that ended the case.

Wilenchik, however, said that's not enough.

He said the conviction should be nullified. And Wilenchik said Bolton is misstating his arguments in asking that any evidence of the case against Arpaio be wiped out.



"We're not asking to undo facts," he said.

"We're not asking for expungement," Wilenchik continued. "There's no such thing in federal law."

What Wilenchik said he does want is a recognition that the case is now legally moot. He said it's no different than if someone dies before sentencing or having a chance to appeal.

"The whole case gets undone," he said, with the conviction nullified.


But Bolton said that's not the way things work. She said the right of the president to pardon the former sheriff is different — and separate from — what actually occurred in court.

More to the point, she said what Arpaio wants ignores the legal nature of a pardon.

First, she said, it must be accepted. At that point, Bolton wrote, the defendant is no longer subject to punishment and all of his or her civil rights are restored.

"It does not erase a judgment of conviction, or its underlying legal and factual findings," Bolton said. In fact, the judge said there is case law showing that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt — and that acceptance is "a confession of it."

In this case, Bolton said, Trump issued the pardon and Arpaio accepted it. And as she reads the law, that ends the case, but does not entitle the former sheriff to have his underlying conviction wiped out.

That conviction apparently has not dimmed the former sheriff's political pull. On Thursday, when contacted by Capitol Media Services, he was in California, campaigning on behalf of congressional candidate Omar Navarro who hopes to unseat incumbent Democrat Maxine Waters.

Saying the president can't erase facts, a federal judge this afternoon rejected a bid by former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio to have all records of his criminal conviction wiped out.

Susan Bolton said she already dismissed the criminal contempt case against Arpaio following the decision by President Trump to issue a pardon. That saved the former sheriff, who had been found guilty, from the possibility of going to jail.

But Bolton rebuffed Arpaio's claim that the pardon also entitled him to have the entire conviction erased.

"The power to pardon is an executive prerogative of mercy, not of judicial record-keeping," Bolton wrote, quoting earlier court precedent.

"The pardon undoubtedly spared defendant from any punishment that might otherwise have been imposed," the judge continued. "It did not, however, revise the historical facts of this case."

dabom
10-19-2017, 10:56 PM
:lol

Spurminator
01-09-2018, 11:47 AM
950760802763661312

Will Hunting
01-09-2018, 11:49 AM
His popularity in Arizona outside of Maricopa County has always been shitty and people don’t even like him in Maricopa County anymore. He’d definitely be another Roy Moore in a state that’s a lot less red than Alabama.

dabom
01-09-2018, 11:52 AM
His popularity in Arizona outside of Maricopa County has always been shitty and people don’t even like him in Maricopa County anymore. He’d definitely be another Roy Moore in a state that’s a lot less red than Alabama.

AaronY
01-09-2018, 11:59 AM
950760802763661312
Awesome :)

Reck
01-09-2018, 12:12 PM
His popularity in Arizona outside of Maricopa County has always been shitty and people don’t even like him in Maricopa County anymore. He’d definitely be another Roy Moore in a state that’s a lot less red than Alabama.

Beat me to it.

Another seat Dems are looking to lock down if they dont go full retard.

Cant believe they actually could end up with the two seats from there. Kelli Ward, the bitch who said McCain is too old and fragile is running again so it cannot get any easier than that.

Reck
01-09-2018, 12:21 PM
950770015162150912

Seriously. :lol

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 12:23 PM
I'm sure the chumpettes will be giving monoslob a hard time about this guy not being a convict.

monosylab1k
01-09-2018, 12:27 PM
I'm sure the chumpettes will be giving monoslob a hard time about this guy not being a convict.

Explain

Reck
01-09-2018, 12:29 PM
I'm sure the chumpettes will be giving monoslob a hard time about this guy not being a convict.

Just because he got pardoned doesn't mean he wasn't convicted of a crime, which he was.

He's a pardorned criminal. Fact.

Dont tell me you cant grasp that fact? :lol

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 12:32 PM
950770015162150912

Seriously. :lol

He's no Michael Obama. Amirite? :rollin

Reck
01-09-2018, 12:35 PM
He's no Michael Obama. Amirite? :rollin

Who's Michael?

:lol derping all over this thread. :lol

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 12:35 PM
Just because he got pardoned doesn't mean he wasn't convicted of a crime, which he was.

He's a pardorned criminal. Fact.

Dont tell me you cant grasp that fact? :lol

Pardon means the record is clean.

Dont tell me you cant grasp that fact? :lol

Reck
01-09-2018, 12:39 PM
Pardon means the record is clean.

Dont tell me you cant grasp that fact? :lol


A federal judge on Thursday declined to throw out the guilty verdict from a criminal case against former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who was pardoned by President Donald Trump in August.

S District Judge Susan Bolton said in her ruling (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/20/558978896/federal-judge-will-not-void-guilty-ruling-on-arpaio-despite-trumps-pardon) that a presidential pardon may have granted Arpaio mercy, but not the power of "judicial record-keeping."

http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-judge-sheriff-joe-arpaio-conviction-trump-pardon-2017-10

Keep holding Ls.

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 12:41 PM
His popularity in Arizona outside of Maricopa County has always been shitty and people don’t even like him in Maricopa County anymore. He’d definitely be another Roy Moore in a state that’s a lot less red than Alabama.



Beat me to it.

Another seat Dems are looking to lock down if they dont go full retard.

Cant believe they actually could end up with the two seats from there. Kelli Ward, the bitch who said McCain is too old and fragile is running again so it cannot get any easier than that.

The more a liberal says a guy can't win, the more they fear he will win, imo. Always been the case. Ya'll bitches said Trump had no chance, too.

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 12:42 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-judge-sheriff-joe-arpaio-conviction-trump-pardon-2017-10

Keep holding Ls.


Pardon means the record is clean.

Dont tell me you cant grasp that fact? :lol

Will Hunting
01-09-2018, 12:45 PM
The more a liberal says a guy can't win, the more they fear he will win, imo. Always been the case. Ya'll bitches said Trump had no chance, too.
Point out where I said Trump had no chance. I’ll wait.

Reck
01-09-2018, 12:45 PM
:cry His record is clean

Judge throws out Arpaios bid to have his record sponged.

Doubles down on retard. :lol Pedotacular

boutons_deux
01-09-2018, 12:59 PM
The racist criminal mofo is 85, so 90+ when he would complete a Senate term

But it's fucking AZ, maybe they can't do better

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 01:00 PM
Point out where I said Trump had no chance. I’ll wait.

I was speaking of liberals in generality. But here's a sampling of one of your brothers in floppy dicks.


http://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rc0NltTBR0ug/v0

Clinton up 12 points over Trump. Now that the regular election is beginning it's looking like this one may be a laugher bloodbath like 1984. Trump is that shitty of a candidate.

Cuppycake Gumdrop
01-09-2018, 01:21 PM
Pardon means the record is clean.

Dont tell me you cant grasp that fact? :lol

Did you even read the OP, you dumb cunt?

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 01:27 PM
Did you even read the OP?

Fake News, cuntt

dabom
01-09-2018, 01:30 PM
Does this faggot even know what a pardon is? :lol

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 01:37 PM
Fake News, cuntt
here's a derptacular friendly source

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/20/judge-refuses-to-throw-out-rulings-in-arpaios-conviction.html

FuzzyLumpkins
01-09-2018, 08:34 PM
I was speaking of liberals in generality. But here's a sampling of one of your brothers in floppy dicks.

That post was from June. When was the election again?

DMC
01-09-2018, 09:11 PM
That post was from June. When was the election again?
You know, the time you left after shit spamming the forum like Hillary was about to win..

That time.

Chucho
01-09-2018, 09:17 PM
You know, the time you left after shit spamming the forum like Hillary was about to win..

That time.

"The Hiding".

spurraider21
01-09-2018, 09:31 PM
You know, the time you left after shit spamming the forum like Hillary was about to win..

That time.
lol says the guy who only showed up in this forum after trump won the election, constantly calls scoreboard, and yet claims to have not voted for trump

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 09:51 PM
here's a derptacular friendly source

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/20/judge-refuses-to-throw-out-rulings-in-arpaios-conviction.html

Throwing out rulings whatever that entails does not make the pardoned Arpaio a convict. My fake news comment is directed to the application, not details presented.

Spurtacular
01-09-2018, 09:52 PM
That post was from June. When was the election again?

Don't talk big if you don't want to own it.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-10-2018, 01:02 AM
You know, the time you left after shit spamming the forum like Hillary was about to win..

That time.

Go talk to ducks about spamming the forum, fattie.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-10-2018, 01:03 AM
Don't talk big if you don't want to own it.

I realize things changing with time is a difficult idea for you.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-10-2018, 01:04 AM
"The Hiding".

We've been over this, dim. I kept posting after the election.

Chucho
01-10-2018, 01:23 AM
We've been over this, dim. I kept posting after the election.

No you didn't.

Spurtacular
01-10-2018, 01:47 AM
I realize things changing with time is a difficult idea for you.

I realize you don't like the egg on your face.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-10-2018, 05:27 AM
I realize you don't like the egg on your face.

In the days before the election, I was talking to MiG about how the polls were indicating that Trump had closed enough that he had a legitimate chance to win.

In the meantime however, the polls are indicating that he is the most unpopular president in modern history and your has lost the last general and special election while you dumbasses still fixate on HRC and try to deflect from the investigation that has already seen 4 indictments/guilty pleas.

Spurtacular
01-10-2018, 06:47 AM
In the days before the election, I was talking to MiG about how the polls were indicating that Trump had closed enough that he had a legitimate chance to win.

In the meantime however, the polls are indicating that he is the most unpopular president in modern history and your has lost the last general and special election while you dumbasses still fixate on HRC and try to deflect from the investigation that has already seen 4 indictments/guilty pleas.

Manafort was an easy target irrespective of your nothing burger. Meanwhile, only lefty loonies believe in this witch hunt. And who cares about your alleged conversations of fear. You talked out of your ass and the shit splattered all over you.

RandomGuy
01-10-2018, 01:15 PM
lol Cubby

http://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-loses-bid-to-have-his-criminal/article_4d73e31a-b52a-11e7-8960-4f6eb05f81a3.html

Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio loses bid to have his criminal record wiped clean

As a Democrat this makes me happy. Moore and Arpiao get to be the face of the Republican party.

Cuppycake Gumdrop
01-10-2018, 01:25 PM
"The Hiding".
:lol a 10 year lurker saying anything about hiding.

Chucho
01-10-2018, 01:47 PM
:lol a 10 year lurker saying anything about hiding.


I'm on your mind a lot. Rent free and blah blah. Go start a thread to have some spoilers taken down or rage for pages about people who dont agree with your theater crowd preferences in different alts.

Stan
01-10-2018, 03:22 PM
I'm on your mind a lot. Rent free and blah blah. Go start a thread to have some spoilers taken down or rage for pages about people who dont agree with your theater crowd preferences in different alts.
You got some issues, Chucho, I think you need some counselin'
To help your ass from bouncin' off the walls when you get down some
And what's this shit about us meant to be together?
That type of shit'll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your boyfriend need each other
Or maybe you just need to treat him better
I hope you get to read this letter
I just hope it reaches you in time
Before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doing just fine
If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you
But Chucho, why are you so mad?
Try to understand that I do want you as a fan

Chucho
01-10-2018, 04:18 PM
You got some issues, Chucho, I think you need some counselin'
To help your ass from bouncin' off the walls when you get down some
And what's this shit about us meant to be together?
That type of shit'll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your boyfriend need each other
Or maybe you just need to treat him better
I hope you get to read this letter
I just hope it reaches you in time
Before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doing just fine
If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you
But Chucho, why are you so mad?
Try to understand that I do want you as a fan

That's a lot of effort you're pouring into me. You're really taking this seriously. Calm down, it's just a message board. I know you invest a lot of time and energy into it, but still, you'll be OK.

Stan
01-10-2018, 04:20 PM
it's just a message board.
Says the guy who was scared of posting for a decade :lol

Chucho
01-10-2018, 05:22 PM
Says the guy who was scared of posting for a decade :lol


LOL, says one of the lifers with 50 accounts. :lmao

Stan
01-10-2018, 05:43 PM
LOL, says one of the lifers with 50 accounts. :lmao
:cry what if they make fun of me :cry i just need more time before I start posting :cry

Chucho
01-10-2018, 05:49 PM
:cry what if they make fun of me :cry i just need more time before I start posting :cry

Yeah, I spent as much time lurking here as you did posting here. You've got me figured.YOU ARE AWESOME. :lmao

Stan
01-10-2018, 05:52 PM
Yeah, I spent as much time lurking here as you did posting here. You've got me figured.YOU ARE AWESOME. :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVyToJ2OfVU

DMC
01-10-2018, 11:40 PM
lol says the guy who only showed up in this forum after trump won the election, constantly calls scoreboard, and yet claims to have not voted for trump

I was here before the election, so...


fake news

FuzzyLumpkins
01-11-2018, 01:37 AM
Manafort was an easy target irrespective of your nothing burger. Meanwhile, only lefty loonies believe in this witch hunt. And who cares about your alleged conversations of fear. You talked out of your ass and the shit splattered all over you.

I didn't make up the polls in the summer, dim. If you are going to use disparaging characterization at least have them make sense.

Manafort, Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Gates and it's not close to done. I do like how you parrot Trump's spin like a good minion though. Witches are make believe . Those guilty pleas are not.

Spurtacular
01-11-2018, 04:42 AM
I didn't make up the polls in the summer, dim.


Okay, you bought into the fake polls; you're naive AF. Point?

Spurminator
01-12-2018, 01:51 PM
951888469483122688

dabom
01-12-2018, 02:11 PM
951888469483122688

A good 10 minutes. :lol

Reck
01-12-2018, 02:33 PM
I will leave that to the lawyers. :lol

spurraider21
01-14-2018, 01:43 PM
arpaio brings up birtherism when asked about hawaii's emergency alert :lmao

hater
01-14-2018, 01:55 PM
arpaio brings up birtherism when asked about hawaii's emergency alert :lmao

Our next US senator. :lmao

:lol shith:lolle

boutons_deux
08-05-2018, 09:41 PM
WATCH: Joe Arpaio explain he would be willing to give Donald Trump a ‘hand job’ in Sacha Baron Cohen’s latest show


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Screen-Shot-2018-08-05-at-10.28.33-PM.png

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/watch-joe-arpaio-explain-willing-give-donald-trump-hand-job-sacha-baron-cohen/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29