Would You Trade Kawhi for Giannis Antetokounmpo

[BillMc]

I am going to get killed for just asking this but....

Would you trade Kawhi straight-up for The Greek Freak?

Antetokounmpo

Better athlete

Younger

Kawhi-like work ethic

Leonard

Perfect work ethic

More accomplished

More skilled

More injury prone??

[Chinook]

No. Giannis seems like a ball-hog right now. I've been complaining about Kawhiso for a couple of years. I can't imagine how I'd handle Gianniso

[TheDoctor]

Better yet, I’ve been saying this for ages. We NEED to pair them up in the near future. Newest Jordan/Pippen incarnation tbh.

[SuperCam]

why wouldn't you trade for a younger, better player with a higher ceiling? tbh no one is asking this outside of spurfan forum

[BillMc]

Better yet, I’ve been saying this for ages. We NEED to pair them up in the near future. Newest Jordan/Pippen incarnation tbh.

The potential of that pairing would be amazing.

[RD2191]

I didn't expect this from you, not from you, Bill. :depressed

[BillMc]

I didn't expect this from you, not from you, Bill. :depressed

Sorry man. I was bored. Clearly I need a 12 step program somewhere. :lol

[TimDunkem]

If Giannis could shoot or lead his team past the Cavs, I might think about it. Until then NO.

[dabom]

It's alright Bill. as long as you made the voters viewable. I don't get how so many people always forget.

[SuperCam]

giannis only 22 :wow

[RD2191]

Sorry man. I was bored. Clearly I need a 12 step program somewhere. :lol

:lol

[lefty20]

Why the fuck would I give away a sure thing for a "what could be" thing.

[RD2191]

Giannis is a good player but it's hard to gauge him when he plays on a bad team in a bad conference. We've seen players put up great numbers on bad teams before, but those numbers don't translate into wins when it matters. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[DAF86]

why wouldn't you trade for a younger, better player with a higher ceiling? tbh no one is asking this outside of spurfan forum

Giannis will never learn to shoot. He will never be able to translate his regular season success to the playoffs with such a huge flaw, tbh.

When you are playing teams on the regular season that don't specifically adjust their schemes to stop you, you can get away with scoring 109 pts of 115 in the paint. That shit won't happen agaisnt good teams in the playoffs, tbh.

[spursistan]

Both teams say no, for now..However, if it becomes clear this season that Kawhi is trending toward "Injury-prone" category, you do it given the age/health factor overwhelmingly on Giannis side ..

Only a homer wouldn't give it a serious thought.

[TheDoctor]

Giannis is a good player but it's hard to gauge him when he plays on a bad team in a bad conference. We've seen players put up great numbers on bad teams before, but those numbers don't translate into wins when it matters. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
I agee w/ Rocalcio for once.

[bic50]

Both teams say no, for now..However, if it becomes clear this season that Kawhi is trending toward "Injury-prone" category, you do it given the age/health factor overwhelmingly on Giannis side ..

Only a homer wouldn't give it a serious thought.
Spurs need to be moved. Fans have become unloyal

[bic50]

why wouldn't you trade for a younger, better player with a higher ceiling? tbh no one is asking this outside of spurfan forum
Better player?

[SuperCam]

Giannis will never learn to shoot. He will never be able to translate his regular season success to the playoffs with such a huge flaw, tbh.

When you are playing teams on the regular season that don't specifically adjust their schemes to stop you can get away with scoring 109 pts of 115 in the paint. That shit won't happen agaisnt good teams on the playoffs, tbh.

Kiwi shot 52% age 22 same as Greek God Giannis tbh

[BillMc]

It's alright Bill. as long as you made the voters viewable. I don't get how so many people always forget.

Yeah. Half the fun is knowing where people stand.

[RD2191]

I agee w/ Rocalcio for once.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/aec7b1633041072420c159209d3d1794/tumblr_mqqq1cJcvb1qgs9ujo1_500.gif

[BillMc]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/aec7b1633041072420c159209d3d1794/tumblr_mqqq1cJcvb1qgs9ujo1_500.gif
:lol

[SuperCam]

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who could you honestly place above him for mvp so far tbh

[DAF86]

Kiwi shot 52% age 22 same as Greek God Giannis tbh

Kawhi didn't take 99% of his shots in the paint though.

[SuperCam]

Kawhi didn't take 99% of his shots in the paint though.

he also wasn't the first, or even second option, with defenses game planning around him

[RD2191]

921936621179756547

who could you honestly place above him for mvp so far tbh

TBH Anthony Davis has been putting up similar numbers for a while now.

[RD2191]

he also wasn't the first, or even second option, with defenses game planning around him

???

[DAF86]

he also wasn't the first, or even second option, with defenses game planning around him

Ok, so?

[Clipper Nation]

Giannis will never learn to shoot. He will never be able to translate his regular season success to the playoffs with such a huge flaw, tbh.

When you are playing teams on the regular season that don't specifically adjust their schemes to stop you can get away with scoring 109 pts of 115 in the paint. That shit won't happen agaisnt good teams on the playoffs, tbh.
I remember when everyone said Kidd would never learn to shoot, LeBron would never learn to shoot, Blake would never learn to shoot, etc. Giannis is 22. He has plenty of time to learn to shoot, and I'm sure he will. He has the work ethic to do so.

[bic50]

Wouldn't trade. Kawhi might leave anyway.

[DAF86]

I remember when everyone said Kidd would never learn to shoot, LeBron would never learn to shoot, Blake would never learn to shoot, etc. Giannis is 22. He has plenty of time to learn to shoot, and I'm sure he will. He has the work ethic to do so.

Kidd only became a good shooter when he turned into a role player and shot only wide open shots. Lebron and Blake's shots never looked as broken as Gianis', tbh.

[SPURt]

Two years ago it seemed everyone was promoting the same type of hype about Anthony Davis. Way too early to have this discussion. We haven’t even seen Kawhi play yet, lol, and certainly not against the Greek freak.

[Biggems]

No, but I would trade Kawhi for

4 firsts, all top 3
4 seconds, all top 35
and cash

[bic50]

Two years ago it seemed everyone was promoting the same type of hype about Anthony Davis. Way too early to have this discussion. We haven’t even seen Kawhi play yet, lol, and certainly not against the Greek freak.
This happened last season and there were these same talks about trading Kawhi for giannis and Kawhi went on to have a monster season.

[szkorhetz]

Giannis has GOAT ceiling. Kawhi on the other hand...

[BillMc]

Giannis has GOAT ceiling. Kawhi on the other hand...

Has GOAT floor?

[RD2191]

Giannis has GOAT ceiling. Kawhi on the other hand...

No, he doesn't. Just stop it. AD has been putting up similar stats for a while now and no one is saying he has goat potential.

[TheDoctor]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/aec7b1633041072420c159209d3d1794/tumblr_mqqq1cJcvb1qgs9ujo1_500.gif
HAHAHAHA :lmao

[TheRemix]

Kawhi is still developing as well, I wouldn't trade him for giannis. Kawhi on the bucks would be putting up god like stats too.

[SPURt]

Giannis also doesn’t have a skilled teammate like LMA bitching about touches. Even if Kawhi could care less it has to be in the back of his mind somewhere. LMA makes the Spurs better but Kawhi will sacrifice touches.

[RD2191]

A little OT here but is it fair to compare Kawhi to a player that's 6'11/7ft tall? Sure, they play the same position but at the end of the day size matters.

[skulls138]

Yeah. Half the fun is knowing where people stand.Stand? More like blow with the wind.

[duncan2k5]

Tough question... The Freak is my favorite non spur... He would be great longside kawhi

[AFMadison]

Imagine not drafting him. Cleveland took Bennett with the number 1 pick that year.

[wildbill2u]

Why would either team make the trade at this point. Both think they have superstar with some upside.

[TheDoctor]

A little OT here but is it fair to compare Kawhi to a player that's 6'11/7ft tall? Sure, they play the same position but at the end of the day size matters.
Its fair if Kawhi is as good as he (we all) thinks he is.

From a BBall perspective. Do you take 6’8” LBJ or 6’11 Giannis? You get my drift?

I think KL2 is the better player. By far. All you guys thinking about this are selling Kawhi short (thinking he isn’t as good as he really is) Numbers dont say everything. Exhibit #1 Westbrook.

[RD2191]

Its fair if Kawhi is good as he (we all) thinks he is.

From a BBall perspective. Do you take 6’8” LBJ or 6’11 Giannis? You get my drift?

I think KL2 is the better player. By far. Numbers dont say everything. Exhibit #1 Westbrook.

Yeah, but LBJ is a GOAT level talent. I still think it should be a point of consideration.

[sasaint]

I am going to get killed for just asking this but....

Would you trade Kawhi straight-up for The Greek Freak?

Antetokounmpo

Better athlete

Younger

Kawhi-like work ethic

Leonard

Perfect work ethic

More accomplished

More skilled

More injury prone??

Interesting question, Bill. It is interesting primarily because Giannis doesn't currently have much of a shot. If he did, he would be in GOAT discussions already and, therefore, untouchable. Because we don't know if he could ever develop a legitimate outside shot, the trade is a bit of a gamble. Kawhi's current health issue makes his end of the deal a question mark, as well. I like rooting for Kawhi. His stoic character has almost as much to do with that as his play. I like the quiet assassin.

[Phenomanul]

Leonard had 5 or 6 game winning baskets last season, coming up super clutch. I have not seen Giannis do this yet.

[TD 21]

Either it has to be proven without a shadow of a doubt that Leonard is injury prone or Antetokounmpo has to get at least within' sniffing distance of becoming a mediocre shooter for this to become a legit discussion. Also, the 3.4 age differential is largely irrelevant considering Leonard is only 26.3.


A little OT here but is it fair to compare Kawhi to a player that's 6'11/7ft tall? Sure, they play the same position but at the end of the day size matters.

Since it effectively allows you to play bigger than you are, within' reason, length is more important than height and they both have 7'3'' wingspans.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kawhi-Leonard-5821/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-7223/

[John B]

Because champions are not only based on talent alone but also character. Many were more athletically skilled than Duncan, but they lack the leadership and sacrifice to build a championship team. I'm not sure about the Greek Freak maybe he does, but I think Kawhi has demonstrated that, his willingness to be coached to become a better player, I'm sure he is stepping back to acclimate Aldridge in the system, etc. letting a proven Spurs system work. So if it's not broke, why fix it?

[YGWHI]

While Giannis has an insane athleticism, the Spurs never relied on super-freak athletes in the last 20 years.

Kawhi's still the most consistent player but comparing both it's all a matter of taste. Do you like an explosive athlete? Do you like a steady, stoic, silent assassin?


However, if it becomes clear this season that Kawhi is trending toward "Injury-prone" category
This from the guy who made a thread saying that dental prodecure, gastroenteritis, pink eye, cold...are injuries. So funny.

[tonight...you]

I need KillBillPana to confirm Giannis' talent before making any decisions...

[hater]

Kawhi cant even wipe his own ass right now

Lets wait till he comes back and in what state

[Uriel]

Kawhi is better today. Giannis will be better tomorrow.

We're contending today.

[alfahdlan]

No. With Kawhi we know what we have on offense and defense. And probably more.

[horsielove]

https://i.imgur.com/If7PZnQ.png

[Mikeanaro]

Some people always like to think about switching Kawhi for other hot hyped player ¨Butler¨ ¨Paul George¨ ¨Durant¨ ¨Antetoculo¨
Sad!

[Mikeanaro]

Kawhi is better today. Giannis will be better tomorrow.

We're contending today.
Is that a fact? Anthony Davis was going to be the next Duncan.

[tonight...you]

https://i.imgur.com/If7PZnQ.png

It moved.

[DAF86]

https://i.imgur.com/If7PZnQ.png

So, we would win 80 games if we trade Giannis for Tony and Green? Ok. :lol

[phxspurfan]

If he can keep this up why not. Hes 22. Kawhi is hurt so much now

[phxspurfan]

Kawhi cant even wipe his own ass right now

Lets wait till he comes back and in what state

He could, but then he would just writhe on the floor in pain

[BatManu20]

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[ElNono]

Dunno that kawhi needs to be a Spur for life, but hell no to that trade... even if theres a chance he's injury prone, Kawhi at least has gone all the way once... has that experience, knows what it takes.

[BatManu20]

It'll never happen anyways, but I wouldn't do it. Kawhi, despite his worrisome injury history, is our guy. Already a Champion and a Finals MVP. 2x DPOY. Just turned 26 and is entering his prime. Most humble, team-oriented superstar in all of professional sports, etc.

Giannis is great and is only 22 (turns 23 in 6 weeks) which is scary because he still has a lot of room to improve, especially jump shooting where he's still poor (career 28% 3-pt shooter). I think people saying yes to this are just forgetting how good Kawhi is because they haven't seen him play in a while. He's top 3 in the league when healthy (#1 on any given night) and the best perimeter defender in the league. I'm taking him.

:claw

[Stabula]

Sports fandom is ridiculous.

[spurs10]

Dunno that kawhi needs to be a Spur for life, but hell no to that trade... even if theres a chance he's injury prone, Kawhi at least has gone all the way once... has that experience, knows what it takes.
Careful with a logical and reasonable take! I concur that being there and having gone all the way puts him in a different class. I'm really happy for Kawhi and think he has a bright future ahead of him, hopefully as one the Spurs!
:flag:

Bill how about a poll about trading one of our new Silver Dancers for bringing Melissa back?? :wow

[99 Problems]

No not a chance. Kawawwa is on LeBron level. In fact he was a quarter away in Game 1 from being compared(rightly or wrongly) to MJ after having taking those 4 all stars to the cleaners.

[BillMc]

:flag:

Bill how about a poll about trading one of our new Silver Dancers for bringing Melissa back?? :wow

:lol Agree. Though that should be a foregone conclusion.

[Raven]

of course not.

[BillMc]

Imagine not drafting him. Cleveland took Bennett with the number 1 pick that year.

Good thing too. Would you want him next to LeBron?:lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

The choice between Kawhi and Giannis is pretty easy. With the shot clock winding down and you need a bucket, who will you turn to?

Hell, even Rudy "not that guy!" Gay has outplayed the Fake Greek in the head-to-head matchups.

[Rocalcio]

I agee w/ Rocalcio for once.

:bobo

[Rocalcio]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/aec7b1633041072420c159209d3d1794/tumblr_mqqq1cJcvb1qgs9ujo1_500.gif

I thought you didn't care... :lol

[Rocalcio]

A little OT here but is it fair to compare Kawhi to a player that's 6'11/7ft tall? Sure, they play the same position but at the end of the day size matters.

That's what girls usually tell you, right ?

[TheGreatYacht]

Him and Giannis are going to be great in Milwaukee in 2 years tbh

[RD2191]

That's what girls usually tell you, right ?

Gawd dammit, I'm sick of this imposter!

[RD2191]

Him and Giannis are going to be great in Milwaukee in 2 years tbh

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Kidd only became a good shooter when he turned into a role player and shot only wide open shots. Lebron and Blake's shots never looked as broken as Gianis', tbh.
Blake's jump shot was completely broken early on in his career. He didn't become a good jump shooter until he hired a shooting coach who reconstructed his mechanics. Actually, it was the same shooting coach who previously taught Kidd how to shoot jumpers.

[Rocalcio]

Gawd dammit, I'm sick of this imposter!


:wakeup

[RD2191]

:wakeup

:pctoss

[BillMc]

Gawd dammit, I'm sick of this imposter!

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But that probably doesn't help, does it? Sorry bro. I say its pistols at dawn!

[Rocalcio]

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But that probably doesn't help, does it? Sorry bro. I say its pistols at dawn!


He's the one imitating me actually, but I don't give a shit about that, while it seems to bother him quite a lot...

[RD2191]

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But that probably doesn't help, does it? Sorry bro. I say its pistols at dawn!

I like the way you think, Bill. It's time to settle this.

[Rocalcio]

I like the way you think, Bill. It's time to settle this.


Ok come to France, you're my guest. One way trip...

[SuperCam]

922650060390830080

:wow:lol

it's fcking over this man is gonna get mvp. no one else is going to come close to putting up this numbers while carrying his team into the playoffs like this tbh

[spursistan]

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One thing for sure, Giannis has a piece of shit personality behind a facade of humility. You'll never see Kawhi utter something of the sort even to the ball boy in the practice facility..

[RD2191]

934746789831462912

One thing for sure, Giannis has a piece of shit personality behind a facade of humility. You'll never see Kawhi utter something of the sort even to the ball boy in the practice facility..

He's an over-rated piece of shit. I don't understand the hype at all. There's more to winning than being talented, as is apparent in this clip.

[RD2191]

Bum can't even keep his team in playoff contention in the shitty East. :lol

[spursistan]

Bum can't even keep his team in playoff contention in the shitty East. :lol
"Should be favorite for MVP" :lmao..

[phxspurfan]

Giannis Antetokounmpo Appears to Curse at Assistant Coach During Bucks-Jazz Game

After rising to his feet, Antetokounmpo appeared to tell Sweeney, "I will f--k you up" as he was restrained by multiple teammates.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2746107-giannis-antetokounmpo-appears-to-curse-at-assistant-coach-during-bucks-jazz-game?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

[Hoops Czar]

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One thing for sure, Giannis has a piece of shit personality behind a facade of humility. You'll never see Kawhi utter something of the sort even to the ball boy in the practice facility..

You'll never see Kawhi utter anything at all because he doesn't have much of a personality unless of course your daughter wants his autograph.

[bic50]

You'll never see Kawhi utter anything at all because he doesn't have much of a personality unless of course your daughter wants his autograph.
What do you know of Kawhi outside of what you see on tv?

[spursistan]

Right now, the Bucks hangs up on them straight, and it is just an example of how his Kawhi value may have depressed some with this quad red flag..

[wildbill2u]

What if we could trade Leonard, Joff and Mills for him?

[bic50]

Spurs are not trading kl. Not even considering it. Kl might leave though seeing how quickly fans turned on him just from last season. It's no wonder these players do what they want and don't give a damn the fans anymore.

[hater]

Kawhi cant even wipe his own ass right now

Lets wait till he comes back and in what state

Posted Oct 2017

One of the best posters in history right here :tu :wow

[hater]

What do you know of Kawhi outside of what you see on tv?

Nothing. Just talking out his ass as usual

[hater]

What if we could trade Leonard, Joff and Mills for him?

Adding fatty and french scrub actually makes the trade worse for Bucks :lol