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Calispursfan11
10-27-2017, 11:07 AM
Aldridge has been candid with the media that he doesn't know what will happen when Kawhi comes back but that there will necessarily be tweaks. Will the rejuvinated LMA and Kawhi gel together immediately, succeed after a short period of adjustment or actually regress to last season? Importanty, when Kawhi is out there as first option, can LMA handle it like all the other great Spurs who have taken a back seat for the good of the team?

And one devil's advocate note, what if the Spurs are better with LMA as the first option... Just raising a remote possibility. Interested to hear your thoughts.

duncan2k5
10-27-2017, 11:47 AM
Aldridge is a cancer that will start to sulk again because he can't accept kawhi is an alpha

MVPCues
10-27-2017, 11:51 AM
Adversely.

Chinook
10-27-2017, 11:53 AM
Eh, we've talked about this in a million other threads. Kawhiso isn't going to work with any offensive structure unless it's a package that the team breaks out periodically before putting it away and running offense again.

DJR210
10-27-2017, 11:58 AM
More worried about Tony's return

Phenomanul
10-27-2017, 12:01 PM
Kawhi is the more efficient player and can still dominate the game on the defensive end. It’s counter-intuitive, but Kawhi is also less mentally fragile - and as such, least likely to be affected by a demotion in usage rate on the offensive side of the floor. He likely understands that the Spurs need this version of LMA for them to be able to challenge for the crown.

dabom
10-27-2017, 12:03 PM
LMA has always been a blackhole. Dude needs the ALPHA to come back.

SAGirl
10-27-2017, 12:13 PM
I saw them interacting animatedly on the bench during one of the home games. I think they will be fine. Kawhi and Lamarcus have to involve each other more and look for each other more.

I suppose a lot of the PnR run by other options currently will be run by Kawhi when he gets back, which will make Dijon fitting off the ball questionable. His defender currently roams all over and he has to get in the paint to grab a board bc he's not going to spot up outside to shoot. I mentioned that aspect elsewhere. Danny 2.0 will lose touches. Pau should lose touches and become a floor spacer basically.... but obviously not sure how Pop will tweak things up. I don't think they will take the hi-lo and some post touches, if Lamarcus has made the effort to grab good position.

duncan2k5
10-27-2017, 12:13 PM
Eh, we've talked about this in a million other threads. Kawhiso isn't going to work with any offensive structure unless it's a package that the team breaks out periodically before putting it away and running offense again.

Kawhiso >>>>Lamiso... And LAs problem isn't ball distribution... It's that HE wants to be the Alpha

Ed Helicopter Jones
10-27-2017, 12:15 PM
I'm hoping that Kawhi's offense can be built into the flow a bit better so that things don't stagnate too much around him on the offensive side of the ball. Make his possessions quicker and limit the time he's handling the ball. My wish...probably won't happen.

Pop will need to find ways to keep LMA and Danny involved and engaged.

The truth is that the team is better when lots of guys are stepping up, it can't all be on the Alpha if we are going to take down GSW. Let Kawhi own the 4th quarters of big games and throw the little dogs the bones in the meantime.

dabom
10-27-2017, 12:16 PM
I'm hoping that Kawhi's offense can be built into the flow a bit better so that things don't stagnate too much around him on the offensive side of the ball. Make his possessions quicker and limit the time he's handling the ball. My wish...probably won't happen.

Pop will need to find ways to keep LMA and Danny involved and engaged.

The truth is that the team is better when lots of guys are stepping up, it can't all be on the Alpha if we are going to take down GSW. Let Kawhi own the 4th quarters of big games and throw the little dogs the bones in the meantime.

:lol

Proxy
10-27-2017, 12:20 PM
LMA has said it multiple times already, that he knows Kawhi is the main dude

With Gay looking as good as he does already, I'm excited to see all 3 together with Danny playing like he is and TP running the second unit

Spurs4#5
10-27-2017, 12:20 PM
I think they're getting away from the iso heavy game and bringing back more motion so when kawhi comes back I don't think it's going to change anything that Aldridge is doing now.

Chinook
10-27-2017, 12:20 PM
Kawhiso >>>>Lamiso... And LAs problem isn't ball distribution... It's that HE wants to be the Alpha

Kawhiso is better than LMA iso post-ups. But it's not better than an inside-out offense like the Spurs keep acting like they want to run.

Ocotillo
10-27-2017, 12:28 PM
With Gay looking as good as he does already, I'm excited to see all 3 together with Danny playing like he is and TP running the second unit

Think about that, the game starts with Murray/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/Gasol, first substitutions are Parker in for Murray and Gay for Gasol. The starters get it off to a good start and then it drops into a lower gear with Gay and Parker coming in and the Spurs pull away.

Of course that is assuming Parker is 100%. If he accepts a Manu type role and becomes the leader of the second unit, good times.

SAGirl
10-27-2017, 12:33 PM
I think they're getting away from the iso heavy game and bringing back more motion so when kawhi comes back I don't think it's going to change anything that Aldridge is doing now.
There is still a lot of posting up in this offense. To give you an example in the last game, Dijon and Manu posted up, Kyle posted up. Rudy and LMA posted up... there's just a lot more off the ball movement, cutting and setting off screens. The hi-lo made a comback as well as the lob passes to enter the ball into the post but close to the rim, etc. I can picture Danny and Dijon losing touches more than LMA.

P.S Rudy is a superior post up choice and will help the bench so much. He should take touches from lauvergne who was running the bench offense from the big spot and not doing a good job of it frankly. Joff will need to recognize that Rudy is so much better and deserves touches.

BanditHiro
10-27-2017, 12:43 PM
More worried about Tony's return

agree. Murray has more chemistry with LMA

BillMc
10-27-2017, 12:51 PM
agree. Murray has more chemistry with LMA

Wasn't there some stat last year that LMA was far more effective with Tony on the floor? Too lazy and too drunk on Friday night to look it up. :lol

duncan2k5
10-27-2017, 12:55 PM
Kawhiso is better than LMA iso post-ups. But it's not better than an inside-out offense like the Spurs keep acting like they want to run.

Agreed, but that inside outside game should consist of LMAO, Kawhi, and Gay... Not just LMAO...that would be disastrous when he decides to go soft

dabom
10-27-2017, 12:56 PM
Wasn't there some stat last year that LMA was far more effective with Tony on the floor? Too lazy and too drunk on Friday night to look it up. :lol

LMA shooting percentage went SLIGHTLY UP, but the impact was a NET NEGATIVE. That means we were losing when tony was on the floor.

Arcadian
10-27-2017, 12:58 PM
I think they'll find a synergy and play better together than ever before.

spurs1990
10-27-2017, 12:59 PM
Gotta keep going with whatever is working.

Leonard should take the backseat until it's proven that LA can't continue to do what we've seen through four games.

Leonard can be that unstoppable beast on defense, and have the O flow through Aldridge predominately, with KL being the bailout guy on dead-end offensive sets.

BillMc
10-27-2017, 12:59 PM
LMA shooting percentage went SLIGHTLY UP, but the impact was a NET NEGATIVE. That means we were losing when tony was on the floor.

If true (and I've no reason to doubt you), then I stand (actually sit) corrected.

duncan2k5
10-27-2017, 01:08 PM
Gotta keep going with whatever is working.

Leonard should take the backseat until it's proven that LA can't continue to do what we've seen through four games.

Leonard can be that unstoppable beast on defense, and have the O flow through Aldridge predominately, with KL being the bailout guy on dead-end offensive sets.

Lmao... Didnt we see that vs golden state? And many years in Portland? LA isn't big time bro... I dont trust him to come up big in big games... Maybe in October vs the bulls and the raptors of the world... But he folded like napkins vs the big boys

RD2191
10-27-2017, 01:13 PM
Gotta keep going with whatever is working.

Leonard should take the backseat until it's proven that LA can't continue to do what we've seen through four games.

Leonard can be that unstoppable beast on defense, and have the O flow through Aldridge predominately, with KL being the bailout guy on dead-end offensive sets.

This might possibly be the worst basketball take of all time.

Nathan89
10-27-2017, 01:42 PM
Lma is still inefficient. He still takes the worst shots possible. If he wants the ball with kawhi on the court he better get better post position.

superbigtime
10-27-2017, 02:18 PM
I think they'll find a synergy and play better together than ever before.

Proxy
10-27-2017, 02:33 PM
Think about that, the game starts with Murray/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/Gasol, first substitutions are Parker in for Murray and Gay for Gasol. The starters get it off to a good start and then it drops into a lower gear with Gay and Parker coming in and the Spurs pull away.

Of course that is assuming Parker is 100%. If he accepts a Manu type role and becomes the leader of the second unit, good times.

The Murray, Green, Kawhi, Gay, LMA lineup against GS.... Gonna be fun as hell to watch

Dex
10-27-2017, 02:37 PM
I think they'll find a synergy and play better together than ever before.

SAGirl
10-27-2017, 03:13 PM
Yes I agree. i think they will be fine.
not worried.
#SpursProblems

skulls138
10-27-2017, 04:01 PM
Kawhi can do it all, including play off the ball. Both are underrated passers IMO and will probably have to do more of that.

spurs1990
10-27-2017, 04:05 PM
Lmao... Didnt we see that vs golden state? And many years in Portland? LA isn't big time bro... I dont trust him to come up big in big games... Maybe in October vs the bulls and the raptors of the world... But he folded like napkins vs the big boys

Can't hold the GSW series against LA. That team went 16-1 and railroaded the Cavs.

Losing Leonard was a shock to the whole Spurs team.

I'm willing to leave 2017 in the past, and judge him on this new leaf (IE post talk w/ Popovich this summer).
But I will say I remember Aldridge absolutely creaming the Rockets in game 6 while Leonard was sidelined.

Personally I don't care about either players role, but I think you gotta keep this winning thing going... especially if the Spurs start out 7-0 before that GS game.

Ozballer
10-27-2017, 04:16 PM
It can work. And Kawhi needs to develop his last frontier as a player, that is being a team facilitator. It is difficult to judge from the outside, but I would be interested to know how Kawhi gels and builds chemistry with his teammates. I only watched two games in the regular season and one thing LMA seems to have is good chemistry with the young players and the role players (Green, Anderson, Murray in particular). There is that connection happening and they play for each other and get the best of each other too. Clearly TD was brilliant at that (engaging his players). In other words, if you are the main cog, it is up to you to make it work. So, it will be about LMA as much as it will be about Kawhi maturing as a true leader. LMA seems to be a challenging personality type and very difficult to manage. He comes across as a bit of a passive aggressive type that it is difficult to read and needs to be taken for chats all the time to get his mind out and adjusted. Parker will be the hardest though. The SPURS current version on court appears a faster more athletic unit that moves the ball. Parker's style will need to adjust to this as opposed to the team adjust to him. It will be tricky.

Phenomanul
10-27-2017, 04:24 PM
There is still a lot of posting up in this offense. To give you an example in the last game, Dijon and Manu posted up, Kyle posted up. Rudy and LMA posted up... there's just a lot more off the ball movement, cutting and setting off screens. The hi-lo made a comback as well as the lob passes to enter the ball into the post but close to the rim, etc. I can picture Danny and Dijon losing touches more than LMA.

P.S Rudy is a superior post up choice and will help the bench so much. He should take touches from lauvergne who was running the bench offense from the big spot and not doing a good job of it frankly. Joff will need to recognize that Rudy is so much better and deserves touches.

Yes! to this...

rjv
10-27-2017, 04:29 PM
It can work. And Kawhi needs to develop his last frontier as a player, that is being a team facilitator. It is difficult to judge from the outside, but I would be interested to know how Kawhi gels and builds chemistry with his teammates. I only watched two games in the regular season and one thing LMA seems to have is good chemistry with the young players and the role players (Green, Anderson, Murray in particular). There is that connection happening and they play for each other and get the best of each other too. Clearly TD was brilliant at that (engaging his players). In other words, if you are the main cog, it is up to you to make it work. So, it will be about LMA as much as it will be about Kawhi maturing as a true leader. LMA seems to be a challenging personality type and very difficult to manage. He comes across as a bit of a passive aggressive type that it is difficult to read and needs to be taken for chats all the time to get his mind out and adjusted. Parker will be the hardest though. The SPURS current version on court appears a faster more athletic unit that moves the ball. Parker's style will need to adjust to this as opposed to the team adjust to him. It will be tricky. that really is the next step in the evolution of kawhi. if he can be more of a facilitator or learn how to pass the ball more efficiently, he will definitely be MVP caliber (even if that means a drop in his PPG).

cd021
10-27-2017, 04:46 PM
Kawhi and LMA pick and rolls and pick and pops are have to be something that Pop uses more going forward.

buttsR4rebounding
10-27-2017, 05:01 PM
Kawhiso is better than LMA iso post-ups. But it's not better than an inside-out offense like the Spurs keep acting like they want to run.

This is what will benefit everyone. When the offense runs inside-out LMA gets his touches, Kawhi doesn't have to work so hard to beat the defense stacked against him and Danny won't fade into the woodwork.

Ice009
10-27-2017, 07:17 PM
LOL. Kawhi's game had us dominating the Warriors in game 1. Kawhi doesn't have to change shit for scrubby players. He can work on being a facilitator to take his game up another level, but until these scrubs the Spurs have show something, he shouldn't be catering to them.

YGWHI
10-27-2017, 10:25 PM
Kawhiso is better than LMA iso post-ups. But it's not better than an inside-out offense like the Spurs keep acting like they want to run.
To play inside-out a team needs good to great shooters. Patty cant find his stroke, people call Danny icy-hot for a reason, DJ can't shoot, Kyle isn't exactly a 3-point shooter...

This team is still an iso and mid-j team, they didn't sign a penetration guard or a 3-point specialist...There is no change on the roster that would make a change on the offense.

YGWHI
10-27-2017, 10:55 PM
I think they're getting away from the iso heavy game and bringing back more motion so when kawhi comes back I don't think it's going to change anything that Aldridge is doing now.


LMA has 20 FGAs a game now...I love how people talk about Kawhi's iso offense and heavy usage % but LMA had more isos and 31% usage in the first 4 games than Kawhi last season.

If this doesn't change and LMA is the Spurs player with most shots and usage...I doubt they'll be "able to challenge for the crown"


Leonard should take the backseat until it's proven that LA can't continue to do what we've seen through four games.
Nobody in his right mind would say that an MVP candidate in his prime should take a backseat.


Leonard can be that unstoppable beast on defense, and have the O flow through Aldridge predominately
Can't believe there are still guys that think LMA's a reliable #1 option after his playoffs performances in Portland and San Antonio. Blazers never passed 2nd round and the Spurs couldn't win a single game in GSW series.

Ice009
10-27-2017, 11:16 PM
LOL, people asking a top 3 player in the NBA to defer to a top 30 NBA player on his own team. Brilliant stuff here.

If LMA was at least a top 10 player, then I might consider playing inside out as I prefer playing that way compared to a perimeter ISO game, but unfortunately he's not. Kawhi shouldn't have to yield to anyone on this current team at all.

r0drig0lac
10-28-2017, 08:10 AM
IGDAF about Lasoft

r0drig0lac
10-28-2017, 08:11 AM
LOL, people asking a top 3 player in the NBA to defer to a top 30 player on his own team. Brilliant stuff here.

UZER
10-28-2017, 08:59 AM
that really is the next step in the evolution of kawhi. if he can be more of a facilitator or learn how to pass the ball more efficiently, he will definitely be MVP caliber (even if that means a drop in his PPG).

No no no, Giannis is gonna win it because he's a "freak". That's more important.

TD 21
10-28-2017, 03:54 PM
LMA has 20 FGAs a game now...I love how people talk about Kawhi's iso offense and heavy usage % but LMA had more isos and 31% usage in the first 4 games than Kawhi last season.

Can't believe there are still guys that think LMA's a reliable #1 option after his playoffs performances in Portland and San Antonio. Blazers never passed 2nd round and the Spurs couldn't win a single game in GSW series.

Aldridge's usage rate is out of necessity, with Leonard and Parker out. Obviously, it will drop when they return.

His playoff performance was strong in '16. Naturally, after playing and shooting at an unsustainable (for him) pace the previous few months and especially 2 games, he experienced regression to the mean in games 3-6 of the WCSF, the same way Green did in the '12 WCF, when a bunch of idiots labeled him a choker. When should Trail Blazers have advanced past the WCSF? That team overachieved or at the very least maxed out just getting to that point.

YGWHI
10-28-2017, 04:38 PM
Aldridge's usage rate is out of necessity, with Leonard and Parker out. Obviously, it will drop when they return.
I wonder if that would make him "happy". He would whinny until he gets his lovely 20 FGAs again.


he experienced regression to the mean in games 3-6 of the WCSF, the same way Green did in the '12 WCF, when a bunch of idiots labeled him a choker.
For the same reason I dont want someone like LMA nor icy-hot Danny as #1 option.
LMA was an experienced player in 2015 against Grizz, in 2016 against OKC too. If he can have just one or two good games in a series he's not a reliable #1 option.

TD 21
10-28-2017, 05:10 PM
For the same reason I dont want someone like LMA nor icy-hot Danny as #1 option.
LMA was an experienced player in 2015 against Grizz, in 2016 against OKC too. If he can have just one or two good games in a series he's not a reliable #1 option.

Obviously, Aldridge is not a number one option on an elite team, but you neglected to mention the wrist injury he played through in the '15 playoffs, the fact that he was good in the '16 playoffs, as well as Trail Blazers maxing out on their potential.

tbdog
10-28-2017, 07:06 PM
LMA should be the number one option for 3 quarters. Kinda like shaq, TD, and KG were for Kobe, Manu & TP, and PP & Ray. LMA should carry us and has the tools too. Leonard should chip in and dominate defensively. Gay and Manu should close out the 1st and 3rd. Then in the 4th it's the Leonard show.

bic50
10-28-2017, 07:58 PM
LMA should be the number one option for 3 quarters. Kinda like shaq, TD, and KG were for Kobe, Manu & TP, and PP & Ray. LMA should carry us and has the tools too. Leonard should chip in and dominate defensively. Gay and Manu should close out the 1st and 3rd. Then in the 4th it's the Leonard show.
Wow

rasuo214
10-28-2017, 11:35 PM
LMA didn't get his touches last season because he played poorly. Pop/Kawhi and the team would constantly feed him touches to start games last season and all it did was put the team in a hole. If Aldridge wants touches he will have to earn them just like anyone else. Also not sure why Kawhi should see fewer touches, especially when he's the most efficient player on the team, take those touches away from Pau, Patty etc.

skulls138
10-29-2017, 04:18 AM
Having LMA as focal point of the offense seemed right to me because he could kick out to Kawhi but Kawhi couldnt pass to LMA, as effectively, because of their respective positions......But Kawhi is the better player and leader.

tbdog
10-29-2017, 05:30 AM
Having LMA as focal point of the offense seemed right to me because he could kick out to Kawhi but Kawhi couldnt pass to LMA, as effectively, because of their respective positions......But Kawhi is the better player and leader.

Pop rarely played them on the same side of the court, to reduce teams from loading up. I really hope Leonard and LMA get involved in pick and rolls together. I strongly believe your two best players should load up on one side to make it a 2 on 2 game.

YGWHI
10-29-2017, 06:41 PM
LMA should be the number one option for 3 quarters. Kinda like shaq, TD, and KG were for Kobe, Manu & TP, and PP & Ray. LMA should carry us and has the tools too. Leonard should chip in and dominate defensively. Gay and Manu should close out the 1st and 3rd. Then in the 4th it's the Leonard show.

So...LMA should average 26 ppg while Kawhi just 10-13 ppg? I guess Kawhi won't sign the extension if he has to take a back seat for an inferior player like LMA.

Also, it's so funny how people can think that Kawhi "magically" will get rhythm to score in the 4th when he barely touch the ball in the other 3rd quarters.

"LMA should carry us.." This shit has to stop.

YGWHI
10-29-2017, 06:52 PM
Obviously, Aldridge is not a number one option on an elite team.
He's not.

But I have to read 4 crazy guys here saying "LMA has to be the first option" "LMA as focal point of the offense seemed right" "Kawhi better score just in the 4th"

If I was Kawhi and my coach tells me I have to defer to an inferior scorer just to keep "happy"...I'm gonna run away the first chance I get.

tbdog
10-29-2017, 06:59 PM
So...LMA should average 26 ppg while Kawhi just 10-13 ppg? I guess Kawhi won't sign the extension if he has to take a back seat for an inferior player like LMA.

Also, it's so funny how people can think that Kawhi "magically" will get rhythm to score in the 4th when he barely touch the ball in the other 3rd quarters.

"LMA should carry us.." This shit has to stop.

Did Kobe average 13ppg with shaq dominating for 3 quarters? No. So don't write idiot responses. Leonard could easily have 15 points coming into the 4th. And he could do it without too many plays been called for him.

YGWHI
10-29-2017, 06:59 PM
LMA didn't get his touches last season because he played poorly. Pop/Kawhi and the team would constantly feed him touches to start games last season and all it did was put the team in a hole. If Aldridge wants touches he will have to earn them just like anyone else. Also not sure why Kawhi should see fewer touches, especially when he's the most efficient player on the team, take those touches away from Pau, Patty etc.

Agree. I find so crazy that people can think that having a passive Kawhi for 3q on offense is something good.

This team could have NBA 2nd record with bad-poor LMA but won't survive without Kawhi at MVP level.

I wonder how this is so hard to understand...

YGWHI
10-29-2017, 07:02 PM
Did Kobe average 13ppg with shaq dominating for 3 quarters? No. So don't write idiot responses. Leonard could easily have 15 points coming into the 4th. And he could do it without too many plays been called for him.

Really? Because these Spurs run the offense in the way that the Showtime Lakers did?

Like the Spurs low pace will allow Kawhi to average 15 points in 3 q with LMA as first option?

Talking about idiot responses..

tbdog
10-29-2017, 07:34 PM
Since when was Kobe in the show time lakers. Plus shaq Kobe lakers were slow teams. Leonard is one of the best reactive players in the league. 14 finals mvp dominated games 3 to 5 without plays being called for him. Give lma his shots in for the first three then switch. Many other stars did the same.

YGWHI
10-29-2017, 07:47 PM
Give lma his shots in for the first three then switch. Many other stars did the same.
In the first three quarters...What a joke.

I would understand if LMA gets many touches early in the first quarter to find his rhythm but almost whole game?...C'mon.

We see LeBron barely shooting in the first quarter to get other guys involved but he's a scoring machine the rest of the game.

I wonder who star does now in 2017 what you say.

rasuo214
10-29-2017, 09:10 PM
Since when was Kobe in the show time lakers. Plus shaq Kobe lakers were slow teams. Leonard is one of the best reactive players in the league. 14 finals mvp dominated games 3 to 5 without plays being called for him. Give lma his shots in for the first three then switch. Many other stars did the same.

The difference is Shaq was a dominant player, the best player on the team, and a huge matchup advantage. LMA is a borderline top 25 player and his strength is his midrange game (no different than Kawhi, but far less efficient). Also I seem to remember Kobe hating Shaq and demanding a trade or threatening to leave to get a bigger role so not the best example all around.

DMC
10-29-2017, 09:19 PM
The only reason the player fans here want isolation plays for KL is to get KL MVP consideration. It's not a winning strategy.

dabom
10-29-2017, 09:20 PM
Kawhi was GOAT status last year. LMA was a loser. Ya forget already?

YGWHI
10-29-2017, 09:43 PM
The only reason the player fans here want isolation plays for KL is to get KL MVP consideration. It's not a winning strategy.
Stop trolling.

Having Kawhi as #1st option doesnt mean go iso.

Kawhi went iso in just 12% of his possessions. KD sharing the ball with Curry and Klay and playing "GSW beautiful game" last season...still 11.5%

Tell me how Kawhi is only an iso-scorer when he's one of the most versatile and efficient scorers in the league.

Having Kawhi as #1 option is not a winning strategy?

The Spurs won 71 and 67 games, had the 2nd best record two seasons in a row, and made the WCF with Kawhi as leading scorer.

rasuo214
10-29-2017, 11:14 PM
Yea shocking that fans would want the most efficient and talented offensive player on the team to be the #1 offensive option.

Ice009
10-30-2017, 12:38 AM
Since when was Kobe in the show time lakers. Plus shaq Kobe lakers were slow teams. Leonard is one of the best reactive players in the league. 14 finals mvp dominated games 3 to 5 without plays being called for him. Give lma his shots in for the first three then switch. Many other stars did the same.

You do know that Kobe hated not getting the ball more, right? He wanted a bigger role and basically made the Lakers get rid of Shaq. Piss poor example.

Oh, and you also might be forgetting Shaq was one of the most dominant players in league history. Kawhi would probably do that for Shaq, but LMA is nowhere near a prime Shaq. Kobe would have demanded LMA to be traded last year for taking too many shots, IMO.

Kawhi can still be the number one option and play a different style of ball (if needed to win).

tbdog
10-30-2017, 05:52 AM
Kobe and shaq both had massive egos. Shaq was publicly asking to get paid. Take KG and PP for an example. KG was the number one option up until the 4th. It's a lot easier to play it that way.

spurs1990
10-30-2017, 12:38 PM
LMA has 20 FGAs a game now...I love how people talk about Kawhi's iso offense and heavy usage % but LMA had more isos and 31% usage in the first 4 games than Kawhi last season.

If this doesn't change and LMA is the Spurs player with most shots and usage...I doubt they'll be "able to challenge for the crown"


Nobody in his right mind would say that an MVP candidate in his prime should take a backseat.


Can't believe there are still guys that think LMA's a reliable #1 option after his playoffs performances in Portland and San Antonio. Blazers never passed 2nd round and the Spurs couldn't win a single game in GSW series.


This is why I don't get paid to post my basketball thoughts.

I was taken in by the 4-0 start and LA's play. But now with these last two games I've brought down to reality.

Leonard should be the guy. Just hope he gets his health in order.

DMC
10-30-2017, 07:23 PM
Stop trolling.

Having Kawhi as #1st option doesnt mean go iso.

Kawhi went iso in just 12% of his possessions. KD sharing the ball with Curry and Klay and playing "GSW beautiful game" last season...still 11.5%

Tell me how Kawhi is only an iso-scorer when he's one of the most versatile and efficient scorers in the league.

Having Kawhi as #1 option is not a winning strategy?

The Spurs won 71 and 67 games, had the 2nd best record two seasons in a row, and made the WCF with Kawhi as leading scorer.

I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Where did I say Kawhi is only an iso player.

Going to Kawhi iso plays isn't a winning strategy. Jesus, it appear to be in english where I am sitting.

YGWHI
10-30-2017, 09:17 PM
I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Where did I say Kawhi is only an iso player.

Going to Kawhi iso plays isn't a winning strategy. Jesus, it appear to be in english where I am sitting.

Really? You said "fans here want isolation plays for KL is to get KL MVP consideration" when NO ONE in this thread talked about iso-offense, those fans wanted Kawhi as #1 option, two whole different things.

But you're the guy who doesn't know the difference between them.

DMC
10-30-2017, 10:39 PM
Really? You said "fans here want isolation plays for KL is to get KL MVP consideration" when NO ONE in this thread talked about iso-offense, those fans wanted Kawhi as #1 option, two whole different things.

But you're the guy who doesn't know the difference between them.

No one talked about iso offense but you claimed I said KL is only an iso player.

Are you high or drunk?

Slippy
10-30-2017, 10:51 PM
There's more chance of the Spurs' terrible point guard play affecting LA's confidence than Kawaa's game. I'm sure theres a good chance Kawai is feeling it too since Tony isn't due till next month.

YGWHI
10-30-2017, 10:54 PM
No one talked about iso offense but you claimed I said KL is only an iso player.
Like it's the first time you said something like this.


Are you high or drunk?
After this game I'd love to say "both" but..nah. N-a-h.

DMC
10-30-2017, 11:12 PM
Like it's the first time you said something like this.


After this game I'd love to say "both" but..nah. N-a-h.
First you make shit up then you double down on it.

It's not the first time you've said something totally fucking stupid.

YGWHI
10-30-2017, 11:25 PM
First you make shit up then you double down on it.

It's not the first time you've said something totally fucking stupid.

And now you're projecting your own shit onto others.

DMC
10-30-2017, 11:30 PM
And now you're projecting your own shit onto others.

Player fan nonsense, typical from these types of forums.

YGWHI
10-30-2017, 11:47 PM
Player fan nonsense, typical from these types of forums.

Does he really think he's better than players fans? Poor DMC. Compensating his feeling of inferiority with a superiority complex, typical from these types of forums.

SAGirl
11-01-2017, 03:28 PM
Aldridge saying the right things.
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As well as Aldridge has played over the past two weeks, his team desperately needs Leonard back, and that much was evident Monday at TD Garden. A miserable road trip concluded with an ugly 108-94 loss to the Celtics, and even Aldridge looked worn out after carrying the Spurs for their first six games.

Afterwards, someone asked him if he knew what it would mean for his personal resurgence when Leonard makes his return.

"He's our main guy," Aldridge said. "So I'm going to have to figure it out."


Last May he was blasted for being too passive, too tentative. But now he wants the ball on the low block, he wants it on the wing, he wants it at the top of the key, and he's proving he still knows how to put it in the basket from all of those locales.

"Right now, I have to demand it," Aldridge said. "When (Leonard) gets back, that's not going be my role no more."

Aldridge and Popovich both remain confident the upcoming adjustment won't be a problem. Asked if, now that he's grown accustomed to demanding the ball, he'll be fine deferring to Leonard, he didn't blink.

"It's not about that," Aldridge said. "It's about winning. As long as we win, I'm fine."

AFMadison
11-02-2017, 01:26 PM
i hate this whole option 1 option 2 thing. It makes it seem as if when the ball comes up the court you start with Kawhi, and if he can’t score you pass it to LMA. We don’t need the beautiful game, but we need an offensive identity that doesn’t rely on two people to both score 20+ a game for us to win. Everyone be aggressive, everyone get involved, get to your spot, do your job, play with confidence.

RD2191
11-02-2017, 02:26 PM
i hate this whole option 1 option 2 thing. It makes it seem as if when the ball comes up the court you start with Kawhi, and if he can’t score you pass it to LMA. We don’t need the beautiful game, but we need an offensive identity that doesn’t rely on two people to both score 20+ a game for us to win. Everyone be aggressive, everyone get involved, get to your spot, do your job, play with confidence.

That's great and all but LMA pretty much said that he'll stop playing if he doesn't get his touches. That definitely makes things difficult.

hater
11-02-2017, 02:31 PM
Lol lamarsha will be back to turd status come playoffs

Ppl forget Splitter exposed his sorry ass long ago when he was having a historic playoffs in Portland

cd98
11-02-2017, 05:47 PM
Since Kawhi is out this year, not much.

mexicanjunior
11-02-2017, 09:05 PM
Lol lamarsha will be back to turd status come playoffs

Ppl forget Splitter exposed his sorry ass long ago when he was having a historic playoffs in Portland

You mean watching from home? This team won't get to the playoffs...

John B
11-02-2017, 11:18 PM
:wow