50-Mill-stones around the team's neck. How can we dump this albatross?

[MaNu4Tres]

Exactly.. this is what I remember.
With Rudy Gay having missed about 3 weeks of games already maybe I have some recency bias, but I do remember him taking a lot of shots.. like tonight for example enough that it stood out. Needless to say the team misses Rudy as well. but that is just yet another way to hide the bad PG play IMO.

That s probably why SA has been losing a lot the past 11 games and going to the wire vs BKYN.

[SAGirl]

That s probably why SA has been losing a lot the past 11 games and going to the wire vs BKYN.
yes. its obvious.

[dabom]

Almost like MVPatty has been playing with a depleted roster all 47 games. :lol


Thanks MVPatty for keeping us at a 50 win team till Kawhichael comes back. :worthy: :worthy:

[dabom]

All players shoot worse vs better teams. Who would have thought that? :lol

[dabom]

2nd best player this year. :tu

Facts.

[Ice009]

2nd best player this year. :tu

Facts.

Someone ban this twat until after the trade deadline. Gotta get rid of Mills and this poster.

[objective]

Exactly.. this is what I remember.
With Rudy Gay having missed about 3 weeks of games already maybe I have some recency bias, but I do remember him taking a lot of shots.. like tonight for example enough that it stood out. Needless to say the team misses Rudy as well. but that is just yet another way to hide the bad PG play IMO.

In the last 11 games without Gay active, Mills has been in the top 3 (or tied 3rd) in field goal attempts 5 times, with a high of 17 attempts in a loss to the 76ers.

They are 2-3 in those 5 games, only beating Sacramento and Brooklyn, losing to Philadelphia, Toronto, and the lowly Hawks.

[dabom]

Someone ban this twat until after the trade deadline. Gotta get rid of Mills and this poster.

I'm one of the MVPosters here. You can't do shit. :lmao

[r0drig0lac]

Kemba for Patty and Laverne. Basically equal salary. Why would Hornets do it? Maybe we throw in some front office help for Jordan.

not bad

[TheGreatYacht]

Someone ban this twat until after the trade deadline. Gotta get rid of Mills and this poster.
Won't happen. This faggot tugs on Slomo and Deuce 's pockets.

[sasaint]

The stat needs could use some extra context, such as who were the teams he was getting 41% or more against in the wins and the losses? Well, 12 of those hot 41% or above shooting nights were against lotto teams, and some really bad ones

Lottery teams bolded

wins:
Brooklyn
@ Brooklyn
Charlotte
@ Charlotte
@ Chicago
Dallas
@ Dallas
Detroit
LA Clippers
@ Memphis
Miami
Phoenix
@ Phoenix
@ Portland
Sacramento
Sacramento
Toronto

losses: @ Houston, OKC, Philadelphia (all playoff teams)

AND

How did he perform when Kawhi was playing at least 25 minutes a game? 25 minutes seems a nice number, just over half an NBA game. After all, Kawhi's presence should make it easier for him, right?

5 games. Only shot over 40% once, going 50% against the lotto Nets.

0%(0-1) against the Pistons.
33% against the lotto Knicks.
16.7% against lotto Phoenix.
33.3% against lotto Denver.

Many thanks for the research.

[Spurtacular]

I've never seen Patty's shot look worse than last night against the Raptors, tbh. He was pushing the ball like an elementary kid and just clanking the fuck out of his shots.

[007nites]

:lol

[hater]

The aussie shitburgers gets consistently worse every game

Sure he might have one decent game but his next 10 games will be shitastic

What an embarrasment this Fatty Aussi Hamburshitburger

[hater]

Cant believe we are 3rd in the west playing this piece of dogshit day in and day put :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

He's officially a net negative in BPM and RPM now:(

[TheGreatYacht]

The league is so lucky Patty doesn't get to play the Nets 82 times....

[lefty]

Cant believe we are 3rd in the west playing this piece of dogshit day in and day put :lol

[SuperCam]

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PATFO jizzrag media homers working overtime to defend this fatso's awful play :lmao

[SAGirl]

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PATFO jizzrag media homers working overtime to defend this fatso's awful play :lmao
that is funny... JeffMcDonald :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

I can't believe Rasual Butler is gone and Jeff McDonald is still alive and doing virgin things

[tholdren]

I can't believe Rasual Butler is gone and Jeff McDonald is still alive and doing virgin things

Dont drive 2x speed limit at 230am into wall. Free advice

[objective]

0-6 from 3 is just Mills being Mills

The other $48 Million Dollar Man shot 0-1 also for 6 points

Summertime Sensations

[vy65]

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[objective]

Hell, RC's whole summer was encapsulated against Houston

$98 million Pau and Mills were trash

Gay predictably hurt

White predictably doghoused by Pop for being a rookie

Supposed Simmons replacement Brandon Paul losing his job to a 2-WAY

Joffrey being the worst spurs big of all time

[weeks]

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Jeff: "My wife and I have had sex plenty of times, it's okay to let someone else have a turn with her."

[SAGirl]

Hell, RC's whole summer was encapsulated against Houston

$98 million Pau and Mills were trash

Gay predictably hurt

White predictably doghoused by Pop for being a rookie

Supposed Simmons replacement Brandon Paul losing his job to a 2-WAY

Joffrey being the worst spurs big of all time
Plus Tony and Manu looking like their time is way passed and that's even with Manu having a better season than expected.

[MaNu4Tres]

Plus Tony and Manu looking like their time is way passed and that's even with Manu having a better season than expected.

White is currently the 5th best guard on the roster.

Better than Parker. Better than Mills. Better than Paul. Better than Hilliard.

Parker needs to retire.

Mills needs to be dumped with Bertans.

Mills is this generations version of Rasho Nestorovic, and Jackie Butler.

[objective]

White is currently the 5th best guard on the roster.

Better than Parker. Better than Mills. Better than Paul. Better than Hilliard.

Parker needs to retire.

Mills needs to be dumped with Bertans.

Mills is this generations version of Rasho Nestorovic, and Jackie Butler.

I might have White as the 4th best guard, with a chance for third

But he'll be sat until they're down 3-1 in the first round.

[MaNu4Tres]

I might have White as the 4th best guard, with a chance for third

But he'll be sat until they're down 3-1 in the first round.

I do too, actually.

I got Green, Murray, Manu, White, Forbes, Parker, Mills, Paul.

Mills the 7th best guard getting paid 52 million, thanks RC.

[Blackjack]

White is currently the 5th best guard on the roster.

Better than Parker. Better than Mills. Better than Paul. Better than Hilliard.

Parker needs to retire.

Mills needs to be dumped with Bertans.

Mills is this generations version of Rasho Nestorovic, and Jackie Butler.


I might have White as the 4th best guard, with a chance for third

But he'll be sat until they're down 3-1 in the first round.

QFT

While I'd like to keep Bertans, I'd like to get rid of Mills more.

Just stupid to be locked into that contract. PATFO have gone Full Retard.

[objective]

I do too, actually.

I got Green, Murray, Manu, White, Forbes, Parker, Mills, Paul.

Mills the 7th best guard getting paid 52 million, thanks RC.

I might have Murray or Manu 4th. Right now White has a mature offensive game, just under control and knows his game and how to play. He should, he's a million years older than Murray.

Murray's terrible shooting is one thing, his terrible finishing is worse. He has passed up so many opportunities to either score or penetrate hard that it's probably more crippling than his non-shooting. Some of that might be his handle, but I don't have much doing that if White was given the starting job he'd be scoring more, especially attacking the rim.

Once, and if, Murray's game matures it wouldn't be a doubt for me that Murray is better, but his crippled offensive game needs to improve over the remainder of the season.

[r0drig0lac]

959265045267050496

959265974502481920

PATFO jizzrag media homers working overtime to defend this fatso's awful play :lmao

"lead the team in "in and out" 3-pointers this year." ...damn STFU

[r0drig0lac]

Hell, RC's whole summer was encapsulated against Houston

$98 million Pau and Mills were trash

Gay predictably hurt

White predictably doghoused by Pop for being a rookie

Supposed Simmons replacement Brandon Paul losing his job to a 2-WAY

Joffrey being the worst spurs big of all time

#facts

[Ice009]

If you're fucking reading this Jeff MacDonald you better not ever run into me, cause I will beat the shit out of you for continuing to spew these retarded takes.

Fucking clown of a reporter/journalist.

[TheDoctor]

"lead the team in "in and out" 3-pointers this year." ...damn STFU
LMAO WTF that even supposed to mean?
“Leading the team in almost-going-in-shots”??? GTFO tbh :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Forget Dick Jeff, this is the worst contract in Spurs history.

[SAGirl]

I might have Murray or Manu 4th. Right now White has a mature offensive game, just under control and knows his game and how to play. He should, he's a million years older than Murray.

Murray's terrible shooting is one thing, his terrible finishing is worse. He has passed up so many opportunities to either score or penetrate hard that it's probably more crippling than his non-shooting. Some of that might be his handle, but I don't have much doing that if White was given the starting job he'd be scoring more, especially attacking the rim.

Once, and if, Murray's game matures it wouldn't be a doubt for me that Murray is better, but his crippled offensive game needs to improve over the remainder of the season.
I wanted to see Murray be more aggressive and get to the basket. When I saw Danny do it I figured why isn’t Dejounte getting aggressive. He did in the second half when the Spurs pushed the tempo, went small and abandoned the 2 big lineups and post ups... He thrives in a faster pasced game.

Your observation on his dribble is on point. He has incredible quickness but bc his handle is high he’s prone to strips if he gets adventurous and sometimes if his lane is closed he doesn’t change direction or speed. Think he’s getting better though. We shall see what happens in terms of improving over the summer.

[SAGirl]

"lead the team in "in and out" 3-pointers this year." ...damn STFU
Thought the same Jeff has to be the worst. What value is there in in and out 3 pts missed. Jeff stats

[TheDoctor]

Thought the same Jeff has to be the worst. What value is there in in and out 3 pts missed. Jeff stats
:lmao

[weeks]

If you're fucking reading this Jeff MacDonald you better not ever run into me, cause I will beat the shit out of you for continuing to spew these retarded takes.

Fucking clown of a reporter/journalist.
:wow :lol this is why i come here tbh

poor jeff, getting bullied on a forum he probably lurks. jesus, at least cucks have had sex and gotten married you virgin

:lol @ "Jeff stats"

[SAGirl]

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In retrospect it was funny.. but tragic at the same time.
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[spursistan]

He won't get traded if only because they are too proud to admit the epic bed-shitting they did with this contract and the overall circumstances of its signing..

[Ice009]

I told anyone that would fucking listen he's a choker and should NOT BE BROUGHT BACK.

What an epic fucking fail by most of you guys here and more importantly, the front office.

[MaNu4Tres]

I told anyone that would fucking listen he's a choker and should NOT BE BROUGHT BACK.

What an epic fucking fail by most of you guys here and more importantly, the front office.

I tried, Ice. I tried.. for the past 2 years, I saw this miles away.

I wanted Spurs to dump him 2 years ago once Murray was drafted to try to flip him for a late 1st before his deal was up.

[Ice009]

I tried, Ice. I tried.. for the past 2 years, I saw this miles away.

I wanted Spurs to dump him 2 years ago once Murray was drafted to try to flip him for a late 1st before his deal was up.

Yeah, there was a couple people that didn't want him back (I couldn't remember who. Props to you if you had that stance too), but probably 98% of the people here weren't against him coming back at all.

I just didn't think he's a good enough player for what he was about to get paid. I didn't give a crap about the culture. I'm always after talent and skill over culture. I only care about culture if that guy is a superstar or all-star leading your team. I want a team leader with integrity (TD, D-Rob, Manu etc.). I don't give a shit if some role player brings culture - I'm not overpaying for that shit. I want them to do the dirty work.

[TheGreatYacht]

The worst thing is he HAS to close games because of that gigantic salary despite being a fat choker every time.

It's unacceptable to bench Parker who had 11pts & 9ast for this ****. Pop can keep trying to justify Drunkford's shit decision but he's losing games in the process. I'm sure it's worth it for them though, anything to prevent their egos from taking hits

[timtonymanu]

And Drunkford has the audacity to say the relationship with Kawhi is “challenging.” Just look no further than this stupid contract. Pretty much destroyed any chance at the Spurs improving because of it.

[objective]

And Drunkford has the audacity to say the relationship with Kawhi is “challenging.” Just look no further than this stupid contract. Pretty much destroyed any chance at the Spurs improving because of it.

Can't dispute it.

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't believe yalls "god" took Rasual Butler from us and left Fatty Mills here to bounce around on his gut

[vander]

Surely there's a petition making the rounds in San Antonio by now? This contract is a slap in the face to all spur fans.

[venitian navigator]

I don't know about his role in spurs culture, but it's clear that he didn't play well till now and, more than all, that he's just a complementary player. His desire to start for some team, that he expressed in last off season, is a clear sign that he's not got over himself...he simply doesn't have and will never have the skills to be a starting point guard for any nba team. Too bad on defense (just decent one on one defense, but a little screen and he's dead; and once he his on a match up with some shooting guard, he's dead the same 'cause he's njust too small); streaky on offense, where he can shine only when he's at 100 % of his phisical condition, otherwise becomes too slow and lose any advantage

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Why do people continue to put this all on Buford? Pop is just as responsible for this shit deal.

They both should be held accountable for this garbage but instead we have Jeff McDonald fellating the front office while the team burns.

[TimDunkem]

Why do people continue to put this all on Buford? Pop is just as responsible for this shit deal.

They both should be held accountable for this garbage but instead we have Jeff McDonald fellating the front office while the team burns.

True, tbh. As fun as it is to make fun of Drunkford's goofy ass, he really is just a yes man whose job is to simply answer the phones.

[hater]

Fatty Shits is a disgrace

[r0drig0lac]

it would be good to dump the Mills and Gasol contracts and bring two real players

[baseline bum]

How did they not salary dump this POS at the deadline? I would have easily thrown in this year's first to get out of the deal.

[TimDunkem]

How did they not salary dump this POS at the deadline? I would have easily thrown in this year's first to get out of the deal.

Because everyone is content with hanging out with their friends off the court to care about what happens on it.

[Big Empty]

I think the key to everything is simple. Patty needs to cut his hair off. Ever since he got the hipster do his game has gone to shit and Kawhi is hurt. He needs to cut his hair again at Rios haircuts.

[objective]

How did they not salary dump this POS at the deadline? I would have easily thrown in this year's first to get out of the deal.

I don't think one first was enough, or will be enough next year.

Too much money and firsts have gotten so valuable.

He's an aging, fat, one dimensional undersized player who is overrated in his one dimension in a league flush with point guards.

A single pick might do it after the 18/19 year is over.

[tholdren]

it would be good to dump the Mills and Gasol contracts and bring two real players

Sadly pau is a better passer than any pg spurs have.

[DPG21920]

I don't think one first was enough, or will be enough next year.

Too much money and firsts have gotten so valuable.

He's an aging, fat, one dimensional undersized player who is overrated in his one dimension in a league flush with point guards.

A single pick might do it after the 18/19 year is over.

What you are saying does not make sense. If first have gotten “so valuable” then it stands to reason they could dump Mills with that valuable asset attached.

Most likely was they wanted to dump Mills and didn’t want to move a first to do so. They can dump him for a first in the off season so no need to do so unless you have to.

Also, they know he can be dumped for their current first round pick and expected draft slot (25+). If something unforseen happens and they fall record wise the pick becomes more valuable. So no need to trade it or Mills now.

[DPG21920]

But yes, if SA could salary dump Mills for a first round pick, they should in the off season assuming they can get a FA to commit. Or even if it’s just shifting his money over to Danny freeing up time for White/Murray that would be big (even Forbes).

The key will be does Manu retire? What about TP and his situation? Spurs will be over the cap regardless unless they do several trades and/or both Rudy/Danny opt out and are renounced which will be difficult. So it’s not like losing TP/Manu would open up more money next year. It would be losing all 3 of Mills/TP/Manu and only having the MLE to improve all around (other than via trade). It’s complicated.

[Robz4000]

But yes, if SA could salary dump Mills for a first round pick, they should in the off season assuming they can get a FA to commit. Or even if it’s just shifting his money over to Danny freeing up time for White/Murray that would be big (even Forbes).

The key will be does Manu retire? What about TP and his situation? Spurs will be over the cap regardless unless they do several trades and/or both Rudy/Danny opt out and are renounced which will be difficult. So it’s not like losing TP/Manu would open up more money next year. It would be losing all 3 of Mills/TP/Manu and only having the MLE to improve all around (other than via trade). It’s complicated.

Dumping Mills would be addition by subtraction at this point tbh, even with him being a good locker room presence. Pop has shown he's going to play him regardless of circumstances and to the detriment of the team.

[DPG21920]

The big things for cap space will be Pau/Mills/TP/Rudy/Danny

If SA can somehow trade Pau/Mills without taking salary back and TP signs quickly for a small deal (like 3M per year), SA can have Rudy/Danny opt in and still be at around 85M in salaries.

If SA can trade Mills/Pau for no salary back and Rudy/Danny opt out and are renounced (and TP again takes around 3M), SA would be at about 67M in salaries.

[TimDunkem]

:lol TP taking 3 mill.

[DPG21920]

:lol TP taking 3 mill.

Lou Williams got 8M. I am not saying TP will settle for that much less, especially if a team is willing offer him Lou Williams money or more (like PHI did with Manu). But we will see.

[SuperCam]

The big things for cap space will be Pau/Mills/TP/Rudy/Danny

If SA can somehow trade Pau/Mills without taking salary back and TP signs quickly for a small deal (like 3M per year), SA can have Rudy/Danny opt in and still be at around 85M in salaries.

If SA can trade Mills/Pau for no salary back and Rudy/Danny opt out and are renounced (and TP again takes around 3M), SA would be at about 67M in salaries.

Lol to move Fatty and Paul's awful contracts for EXPIRINGS are gonna take more 1st rounders than Spur have that's for sure.:lol

[DPG21920]

Lol to move Fatty and Paul's awful contracts for EXPIRINGS are gonna take more 1st rounders than Spur have that's for sure.:lol

Lot’s of variables and won’t be easy for sure. Moving one of them with a first can be done; I am pretty confident of that. Jordan Clarkson is not much better and LA got a first round pick for him.

[TimDunkem]

Jordan Clarkson is much better than Fatty, tbh. He can finish wide open layups.

[DPG21920]

Jordan Clarkson is much better than Fatty, tbh. He can finish wide open layups.

They are different overall players and Clarkson is younger, but he does not grade out better than Mills for overall impact. Certainly not better by the difference in getting vs giving a first

[SAGirl]

Jabari is not in the Jeff McDonald train of counting in and out 3 pts shots as a valuable stat.
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[dabom]

Jabawaheke. :lol

[ceds]

Boss Patty got his payday @ 12:01
i guess i cant knock Green for getting his money also.

Spurs culture
- No OG's
- keep it as light skinned as possible.
- veteran & role player friendly destination
- Holt is a cheapskate compared to pretty much every other small market owner.

[SuperCam]

only faggots pump up culture, tbh. 6 title bulls had MJ punching teammates and half the roster jealous of how much their teammates were making. Lakers threepeated while Kobe and Shaq hated each other. LeKing is in every finals this decade despite a lockeroom run like a girls middle school.

:cry built not bought zero WCF wins without Tim :cry

[cd021]

Boss Patty got his payday @ 12:01
i guess i cant knock Green for getting his money also.

Spurs culture
- No OG's
- keep it as light skinned as possible.
- Holt is a cheapskate compared to pretty much every other small market owner
I'd actually say the opposite is true. He's payed the tax twice before and will almost certainly have to pay it a 3rd time or risk losing one of Green, Bertans, Anderson, and Gay.

OKC traded a guy who is destined to finish in the top 3 in MVP voting 3 straight years for a good starting center to save money.

[ceds]

I'd actually say the opposite is true. He's payed the tax twice before and will almost certainly have to pay it a 3rd time or risk losing one of Green, Bertans, Anderson, and Gay.

OKC traded a guy who is destined to finish in the top 3 in MVP voting 3 straight years for a good starting center to save money.

OKC had 3 max players and ibaka...they had no choice and made the mistake of ibaka > harden

Where do the spurs rank in team payrolls? I cbf checking but im guessing in the bottom half of the league.

Look what lebron has done with CLE playing GM for example

[cd021]

I counted at least two times where he was supposed to be guarding Klay and he ended up nailing open 3's during their 3rd quarter run. Think there was another one that I forgot but his D was pretty bad.

[ceds]

I counted at least two times where he was supposed to be guarding Klay and he ended up nailing open 3's during their 3rd quarter run. Think there was another one that I forgot but his D was pretty bad.

unfortunately both 12:01 Mills and Danny peaked in shooting and defense in 2014

underpaid and rewarded with their current contracts for bringing us no.5

we should be able to move both if this talk about lebron has any legs to it

[sasaint]

Jabari is not in the Jeff McDonald train of counting in and out 3 pts shots as a valuable stat.
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Haha!

[SAGirl]

Haha!
Between Patty and Forbes they really lost the GSW game. The combination of 3-17 shooting from both, not adding any playmaking of note.... I mean Hilliard and Derrick White both were better, plus how horrible they both were defensively ... That was the game right there. Mills assigned to Thomson got this real shooter open shot after open shot and Bryn got lost on all sorts of backdoor cuts and switches.

[ceds]

only faggots pump up culture, tbh. 6 title bulls had MJ punching teammates and half the roster jealous of how much their teammates were making. Lakers threepeated while Kobe and Shaq hated each other. LeKing is in every finals this decade despite a lockeroom run like a girls middle school.

:cry built not bought zero WCF wins without Tim :cry

Damn straight & also this front office needs to get ruthless
TP salary dump should have been on the cards.

[sasaint]

Between Patty and Forbes they really lost the GSW game. The combination of 3-17 shooting from both, not adding any playmaking of note.... I mean Hilliard and Derrick White both were better, plus how horrible they both were defensively ... That was the game right there. Mills assigned to Thomson got this real shooter open shot after open shot and Bryn got lost on all sorts of backdoor cuts and switches.

I had to miss the game. I was laughing at your intro.

[SAGirl]

I had to miss the game. I was laughing at your intro.
:lol I know... I was just sharing with you... he was just terrible. In fact... Spurs would have been better off had he not played at all.. and bryn forbes.

With as many guys as have been getting injured Mills is due to get some kind of nag. He needs to sit out... Lets see Pop play White more and see how they do without him... tbh. Pop keeps him on the floor even when he's terrible. He's a lot harsher on younger guys. Mills needs to go back to the days he was competing with CoJo for playing time and had to be on his toes.

All this feeling complacent, getting paid for the past and feeling no pressure... he needs some pressure at this point.

Heck Pop benches Danny and puts him under pressure when he's slacking.

[tholdren]

Damn straight & also this front office needs to get ruthless
TP salary dump should have been on the cards.

Lol'ing at the mcdonalds workers not understanding culture. Havent you followed lebum? No culture equals barely getting rings for the second most athletic player in the nba during a time when offense is valued so high the league makes rules and cheats to get scorers stats up.... enjoy moms basement

[sasaint]

:lol I know... I was just sharing with you... he was just terrible. In fact... Spurs would have been better off had he not played at all.. and bryn forbes.

With as many guys as have been getting injured Mills is due to get some kind of nag. He needs to sit out... Lets see Pop play White more and see how they do without him... tbh. Pop keeps him on the floor even when he's terrible. He's a lot harsher on younger guys. Mills needs to go back to the days he was competing with CoJo for playing time and had to be on his toes.

All this feeling complacent, getting paid for the past and feeling no pressure... he needs some pressure at this point.

Heck Pop benches Danny and puts him under pressure when he's slacking.

I think Pop is so soft and soft-hearted when it comes to Patty because of his days as a rah-rah towel waver at the end of the bench.

Frankly, I don't see any of this changing until there is a regime change. And I don't see that happening until the team completely collapses under all the weight that PATFO have piled on it or until the Olympics have come and gone.

[ceds]

Lol'ing at the mcdonalds workers not understanding culture. Havent you followed lebum? No culture equals barely getting rings for the second most athletic player in the nba during a time when offense is valued so high the league makes rules and cheats to get scorers stats up.... enjoy moms basement

Fuck off and eat a Fat Dick ....you have no idea what i do for a living or when i left my folks home.

The board is full of nothing posts by you....you should team up with ducks to start up a "redneck krew" so posters can put you on ignore quickly.

Back to the culture ...Detroit B2B and 2004 culture was basically the opposite to the spurs way.

[tholdren]

Fuck off and eat a Fat Dick ....you have no idea what i do for a living & i left mums at 20

The board is full of nothing posts by you....you should team up with ducks to start up a "redneck krew" so posters can put you on ignore quickly.

Back to the culture ...Detroit B2B and 2004 culture was basically the opposite to the spurs way.

Cleanup aisle 2.

[tholdren]

Fuck off and eat a Fat Dick ....you have no idea what i do for a living or when i left my folks home.

The board is full of nothing posts by you....you should team up with ducks to start up a "redneck krew" so posters can put you on ignore quickly.

Back to the culture ...Detroit B2B and 2004 culture was basically the opposite to the spurs way.

Lol you ignore posters... lolololololol

[ceds]

Lol you ignore posters... lolololololol

i wasn't ignoring anyone because i was convinced some of the personal info that leaked in pre-season came from some people that know me in real life here in Melb

It got personal on this board and i had people make IG accounts and add me with drug related innuendo...shit about my ex etc...Also on my face-book
lakersground NBA Forum totally changed to welcome me when i joined ...ive never seen anything like it.

i can tell by your posts you're a trump supporting, gun loving fuckstick which is why i suggested you make friends with ducks.

The longer i spend on this forum i know who to ignore and you seriously fuck up just about every thread.

[tholdren]

i wasn't ignoring anyone because i was convinced some of the personal info that leaked in pre-season came from some people that know me in real life here in Melb

It got personal on this board and i had people make IG accounts and add me with drug related innuendo...shit about my ex etc...Also on my face-book
lakersground NBA Forum totally changed to welcome me when i joined ...ive never seen anything like it.

i can tell by your posts you're a trump supporting, gun loving fuckstick which is why i suggested you make friends with ducks.

The longer i spend on this forum i know who to ignore and you seriously fuck up just about every thread.

Lol you have a facebook account. Ps take keith urban and patty back to that shithole australia

[weeks]

We should’ve gave that money to Simmons + another role player, but nope

[Ice009]

I was asking Chinook or someone else a week or two ago, can't remember who, if the Spurs could have just dumped Mills and brought back Dedmon and Simmons for their current salaries. I would have much rather of done that.

[tholdren]

I was asking Chinook or someone else a week or two ago, can't remember who, if the Spurs could have just dumped Mills and brought back Dedmon and Simmons for their current salaries. I would have much rather of done that.

Adv stats chinook would have signed mills. Adv stats supported this contract. This is why adv stats are for idiots

[dabom]

I was asking Chinook or someone else a week or two ago, can't remember who, if the Spurs could have just dumped Mills and brought back Dedmon and Simmons for their current salaries. I would have much rather of done that.

Those players suck compared to MVPatty. :lmao

And the spurs lose another PG. :lmao






:lmao

[Ice009]

Those players suck compared to MVPatty. :lmao


Shut the fuck up. I don't see how you can post here when you've got your tongue up in Patty's asshole 24/7.

[dabom]

Shut the fuck up. I don't see how you can post here when you've got your tongue up in Patty's asshole 24/7.

The Closer is a closer for this team. When he makes a 3 in crunch time you sure don't bitch as much. :lmao

[SAGirl]

Patty Mills performances against GSW this season:




DATE
OPP
SCORE
MIN
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PM-3PA
3P%
FTM-FTA
FT%
REB
AST
BLK
STL
PF
TO
PTS


Sat 2/10


@
GS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors)


L 105-122 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/400975577)
18
3-10
.300
1-5
.200
0-0
.000
1
1
0
0
3
0
7




Thu 11/2


vs
GS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors)


L 92-112 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/400974868)
28
2-7
.286
2-6
.333
0-0
.000
1
3
0
2
1
0
6




and for whomever cares a -13 and -8 respectively. The irony.. they scored more in the game he played the least minutes... :wakeup

Last season in the WCF
30 MPG = 24% FG with 21% from 3. 7.8 points. Terrible on the defensive end.

[dabom]

Spurs won a Chip before drafting fathead. :lmao

[r0drig0lac]

Between Patty and Forbes they really lost the GSW game. The combination of 3-17 shooting from both, not adding any playmaking of note.... I mean Hilliard and Derrick White both were better, plus how horrible they both were defensively ... That was the game right there. Mills assigned to Thomson got this real shooter open shot after open shot and Bryn got lost on all sorts of backdoor cuts and switches.

dwarves can not play basketball when it really matters, see isaiah thomas

[TheGreatYacht]

Patty Mills performances against GSW this season:




DATE
OPP
SCORE
MIN
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PM-3PA
3P%
FTM-FTA
FT%
REB
AST
BLK
STL
PF
TO
PTS


Sat 2/10


@
GS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors)


L 105-122 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/400975577)
18
3-10
.300
1-5
.200
0-0
.000
1
1
0
0
3
0
7




Thu 11/2


vs
GS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors)


L 92-112 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/400974868)
28
2-7
.286
2-6
.333
0-0
.000
1
3
0
2
1
0
6




and for whomever cares a -13 and -8 respectively. The irony.. they scored more in the game he played the least minutes... :wakeup

Last season in the WCF
30 MPG = 24% FG with 21% from 3. 7.8 points. Terrible on the defensive end.
Fucking pathetic that the autistic midget still cum shields for this scrub

[cd021]

unfortunately both 12:01 Mills and Danny peaked in shooting and defense in 2014

underpaid and rewarded with their current contracts for bringing us no.5

we should be able to move both if this talk about lebron has any legs to it

Green did make all defense and it wasn't all off rep..
Green will opt out.and Mills and Gasol would make up the basis for an S&T I'd imagine but that is in the pipe dream category at the moment.

[weeks]

http://i67.tinypic.com/4h83td.png

[Ice009]

Mills doesn't even want to shoot anymore. he's a fucking joke. He's playing 22 minutes, but I could tell he didn't want to shoot it. He had no confidence, so why was he out there for 22 minutes? HIS STELLAR FUCKING DEFENSE?

D_White - DNP

That's all you need to say about this clown Pop right about now.

[ElNono]

No pressure, niglets

[spursistan]

https://i.imgur.com/1bkWnnb.jpg

If this piece of shit and his excrement of contract don't get offloaded in the summer :lmao..

12 millions for this disgusting line.

Not only that, but this turd is going to be playing over Murray in the playoffs just because they have to double down on his pathetic ass so Pop/RC don't look like the dumbfucks they were last offseason..

[ElNono]

https://media.giphy.com/media/qi8Yhj4pKcIec/giphy.gif

[vy65]

He’s the second best player on the spurs you guys

[spursistan]

Forget Dick Jeff, this is the worst contract in Spurs history.
By a mile..

[objective]

He is awful!

And for people who think he's here because of leadership and culture ... He's been trash at that!

Under Patty's culture leadership, his buddy from Portland Aldridge has asked for a trade and Kawhi now has a challenging relationship with the Spurs and didn't even travel with the team

[spursistan]

Thinking Poop was going to bench a sucker to whom he just gave 50millions :lol..

[weeks]

you can't lead and suck at the same time in competitive sports

it's kind of a rule

[TheGreatYacht]

He is awful!

And for people who think he's here because of leadership and culture ... He's been trash at that!

Under Patty's culture leadership, his buddy from Portland Aldridge has asked for a trade and Kawhi now has a challenging relationship with the Spurs and didn't even travel with the team
But he frogs and tweets it's game day!

[weeks]

dabom just needs to take the L on this one
it's patty's only hope

[vander]

Spurs definitely beat Utah if White gets all Mills minutes

[spursistan]

This contract is a borderline front office malpractice,tbh..

[MaNu4Tres]

It was a trash signing the day it was signed.

I kind of hope they get a wake up call and don't make the playoffs -- a top 15 pick would be nice too.

[objective]

It was a trash signing the day it was signed.

I kind of hope they get a wake up call and don't make the playoffs -- a top 15 pick would be nice too.

I'm there now too.

I think it's the Acceptance stage.

I worry they won't see it as a wake-up call.

Proof that they have seen the light will be if they swallow their pride and the money and cut Joffrey during this season.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm there now too.

I think it's the Acceptance stage.

I worry they won't see it as a wake-up call.

Proof that they have seen the light will be if they swallow their pride and the money and cut Joffrey during this season.

They are only 3 games ahead of the Clippers in the loss column. Clippers are 9th in the West.

Spurs next 18 games are as brutal as it gets. They'll go 5-13 or 6-12 during this stretch -- especially if Kawhi isn't back and especially if Pop keeps up his terrible coaching closing games.

Jazz ran the same damn play over and over the last 6 minutes, attacking Pau in the PnR going downhill and Pop never flinched. I would have at least put in Kyle/Bertans/ Green/ Manu/Murray and blitzed/switched everything -- especially in PnRs with strong hedges.

Can't believe he closed with Patty on top of that. My goodness.

[cjw]

This contract is a borderline front office malpractice,tbh..

Maybe it’s the reason the Holts are getting divorced. Keys turned over to the wife who overspent on a pudgy Aussie

[venitian navigator]

There are some clues that the front office has decided to late-tank this season:
1) the injuries of KL and Gay are over managed regarding to any possible medical prevision...i would not be surprised if the decision is to not play them both anymore for this season;
2) the choices in point to point finals have been hard scratching...last example, Mills in, in the final play, and then way he played (like a statue) that play;
3) the choices to rest players that are playing well (for axample, no reason to bench White this entire game in favor of minutes to Forbes and Mills, that have been abysmal agaist GSW).


The remaining schedule could also have played play a role in the sense above: the outcome of last 24 games, if nothing change, could result in a sort of a 7/17...that would however take us over 50% (final record 42/40) but probably out of play offs.

Finally, the situation of the ownerswhip can play a role: the uncertainity about future takes to misleading choices.

[objective]

There are some clues that the front office has decided to late-tank this season:
1) the injuries of KL and Gay are over managed regarding to any possible medical prevision...i would not be surprised if the decision is to not play them both anymore for this season;
2) the choices in point to point finals have been hard scratching...last example, Mills in, in the final play, and then way he played (like a statue) that play;
3) the choices to rest players that are playing well (for axample, no reason to bench White this entire game in favor of minutes to Forbes and Mills, that have been abysmal agaist GSW).


The remaining schedule could also have played play a role in the sense above: the outcome of last 24 games, if nothing change, could result in a sort of a 7/17...that would however take us over 50% (final record 42/40) but probably out of play offs.

Finally, the situation of the ownerswhip can play a role: the uncertainity about future takes to misleading choices.

I wish they'd tank. But to your points:

1. I don't think Kawhi limping around during off hours has anything to do with the Spurs being too cautious and near-tankish. They might shut him down, but I doubt it will be over managing, just a reaction.
2. Late game bizareness has been a Pop staple for a few years now.
3. I'm not at all surprised by Gay being out so long. He's a 31 year old who is coming off a torn ACL who pushed himself to be ready at season's start, earlier than people expected. Him breaking down with injury was an understood risk.
4. Derrick White being benched is classic Pop. He does it all the time. Especially if he has a vet he likes in front of said player. Hill was benched for tough vet Vaughn. Splitter benched for favorites Bonner and tough McDyess. It is what it is. The rare instances to the contrary are when exceptional players are behind players he doesn't care for, like Parker with Antonio Daniels and Kawhi with Richard Jefferson who Pop had previously benched in the playoffs and wasted some of his summer time off on.

Pop even gave White the kiss of death with his recent quote about how White has "been hurt a lot". He missed a month with one injury. It's one injury, not 'a lot', he's been available more than not, 43 games available to 14 unavailable. It was the same crap with Splitter. Splitter has to miss time in camp, is available most of the season racking up dozens of dnp-cds and garbage time games and then the next few years Pop lies about how Splitter was so incredibly injured and that's why he didn't play his rookie year. It was nonsense that goes unchallenged by the local media buffoons. But now Pop has his fake excuse. Soon you'll be hearing that White missed the entire year with bird flu-inosis like Splitter was portrayed.

But playing Mills is a great tanking strategy, you might be on to something.

[Russo21]

21 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 4 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks. Zero shooting percentage. 50 million bux. Worst signing in the team's history. I pray the fat abbo piece of shit isn't on the team next year. And after he signed his ridiculous contract he said there was no pressure to perform. I hate that little brown abbo piece of shit. And Pop probably feels compelled to play him because of his insane contract. What a mess. Let's start a petition that this fuck isn't on the team next year.

[dabom]

+1. :lmao

[Keepin' it real]

21 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 4 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks. Zero shooting percentage. 50 million bux. Worst signing in the team's history. I pray the fat abbo piece of shit isn't on the team next year. And after he signed his ridiculous contract he said there was no pressure to perform. I hate that little brown abbo piece of shit. And Pop probably feels compelled to play him because of his insane contract. What a mess. Let's start a petition that this fuck isn't on the team next year.

4 assists in only 21 minutes??? Good on ya Patty!

[spursistan]

His limitations as a player aside, the blasé way with which Mills has been talking about his struggles and other soundbites give off the typical vibes of someone who let himself go over the summer after he getting paid..

If this the culture PATFO are afraid of losing, then they can go fuck themselves..Any other GM/President of basketball OPs not named Pop or Buford would have been tarred and feathered by all these NBA mavens online and in the media for a similar signing.

This has been so far the Spurs' version of the 2016 Mozgov/Deng/Noah abominations.....

[spurraider21]

his limitations have always been there, but he's still fine as a bench sparkplug. once the team counts on him to be anything more than that, he gets exposed. it's not a startling revelation... but that's exactly why his contract was absurd. they are paying him to be more than a microwave.

[SAGirl]

his limitations have always been there, but he's still fine as a bench sparkplug. once the team counts on him to be anything more than that, he gets exposed. it's not a startling revelation... but that's exactly why his contract was absurd. they are paying him to be more than a microwave.
The truth.

[DJR210]

Maybe it’s the reason the Holts are getting divorced. Keys turned over to the wife who overspent on a pudgy Aussie

It's gotta be the reason IMO.. She stood by through all the drinking, but Patty has torn their family apart.

[TD 21]

His limitations as a player aside, the blasé way with which Mills has been talking about his struggles and other soundbites give off the typical vibes of someone who let himself go over the summer after he getting paid..

If this the culture PATFO are afraid of losing, then they can go fuck themselves..Any other GM/President of basketball OPs not named Pop or Buford would have been tarred and feathered by all these NBA mavens online and in the media for a similar signing.

This has been so far the Spurs' version of the 2016 Mozgov/Deng/Noah abominations.....

:tu

It's time to start benching one of the 37 guards populating this roster, that can't shoot with a degree of consistency, run an offense or defend. Especially with the current bizarre rotation (starting virtually all available size and playing micro ball off the bench).

Mills should be the leading candidate to get this treatment first (there's so many candidates, it should be moved around though). Give him his initial 1st quarter stint and if he doesn't have it again, he should be done for the night.

[Russo21]

Someone needs to tell him to get a damn haircut to.

[spursistan]

972651169771347969

What is the point of letting this scrub continue to wet himself with more exposure as a starter? Until teams actually begin asking for the Spurs first rounder(s) to take him off our hands ?

[SAGirl]

In some of those games him actually scoring could have been the difference. It’s really the only reason Pop starts him...

[TheGreatYacht]

The only reason he's starting is because some Cleveland Trump supporter called him a Jamaican dog

[MaNu4Tres]

In some of those games him actually scoring could have been the difference. It’s really the only reason Pop starts him...

He's never been a scorer.

A shooter is not a scorer.

It's like Pop putting Steve Kerr in starting lineup instead of Elie in 99, and having Kerr be 2nd on the team in minutes.

Or Neal in the starting lineup instead of Danny Green in 2013.

That's who Mills is.

[TimDunkem]

^ At least Kerr could shoot and was clutch while Neal actually was a scorer who could get you buckets if you need some.

Mills isn't even really a shooter these days, he's so bad. He's simply a chucker. A glorified Eddie House.

[TheDoctor]

The only reason he's starting is because some Cleveland Trump supporter called him a Jamaican dog
:lol

[JFK]

^ At least Kerr could shoot and was clutch while Neal actually was a scorer who could get you buckets if you need some.

Mills isn't even really a shooter these days, he's so bad. He's simply a chucker. A glorified Eddie House.



This. A chucker.

Oh, but his Instagram is funny and so are his H-E-B ads. You cannot put into value what he brings to this team. /s

[SAGirl]

He's never been a scorer.

A shooter is not a scorer.

It's like Pop putting Steve Kerr in starting lineup instead of Elie in 99, and having Kerr be 2nd on the team in minutes.

Or Neal in the starting lineup instead of Danny Green in 2013.

That's who Mills is.
Think we have only PATFO to blame for this roster.
Kiwi would conceal a lot but these things were predictable.

[gambit1990]

i wonder if the sixers would’ve taken him and tony for redick.

[TheGreatYacht]

i wonder if the sixers would’ve taken him and tony for redick.
You wanna trade him? You were jizz ragging for him to start last year

[gambit1990]

You wanna trade him? You were jizz ragging for him to start last year
i’m for making the team better. kawhi, la with patty in SL > them with parker in SL. i also wanted murray to start over parker last year, even wanted old ass andre miller to take his minutes.

never said patty should be the starting PG for years to come. after the spurs lost to OKC in the playoffs i said on here that i’d be fine with trading patty if it meant trading tony as well. this season i’ve posted trade scenarios involving both.

[spursistan]

987525554638344192

[objective]

-20 on defense, +25 on corporate knowledge

[Ice009]

Wow. I knew he was bad, but he's even worse than I thought.

[SuperCam]

once dabom disappears into faggot air after sunday then no Fatty stans will remain tbh

[SAGirl]

He needs to go. As I said they will never win a single game againt GSW playing Paddy big minutes. The fact that his dry spell against GSW seems to be over is the kiss of death. Spurs would have been better off hadhe shot the ball like last season and the! Giving up and starting White.
:pop: It wouldn't be fair.

[HarlemHeat37]

That stat is largely irrelevant..obviously Mills is going to have worse raw on/off numbers when he's one of the few players on the team that has a big role and one of
only 2 that gets consistent minutes in meaningful parts of the game..

Poor guy..it's not like his game really fell off, he's the same as he's always been, just in a role he isn't suited for..blame Pop and Buford, don't see how anybody can blame Patty, every single one of you would have taken that 50 million and ran:lol

[Ice009]

I vehemently told all of you here in this forum (in the two weeks prior to the free agency period starting) that the Spurs should NOT re-sign Patty unless it was a dirt cheap deal. Anything more than getting him at a dirt cheap price, I wanted to let him walk as I didn't think he was worth much more than his previous contract (basically I wanted him gone unless he was stupid enough to re-sign for something like 6M, which I still didn't really want him back for, but I would have relented if he accepted an offer like that).

There was not many people here in the forum that said a darn thing. Look at you all now. You ALL want him gone. Why did all you people (before you saw the contract numbers) want him back? He's a useless player if you're trying to win playoff games and a Championship, which correct me if I am wrong, is what the Spurs are/were trying to do.

[MaNu4Tres]

-20 on defense, +25 on corporate knowledge

How some of us message board warriors could figure it out years ago but Pop & RC couldn't...really is frustrating.

[phxspurfan]

Patty in the voting for best kicks this playoffs on BSPN

http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/_/id/23351803/which-nba-player-had-best-kicks-first-round-playoffs

Theyre ugly af doe

[spurraider21]

Ive given 50 mills a lot of shit all season... he did get sodomized by Livingston al series, but he was still our most reliable pg all series tbh. He showed up

[TheDoctor]

once dabom disappears into faggot air after sunday then no Fatty stans will remain tbh

[tbdog]

Patty was our 3rd best player down the stretch. He played a shit ton of minutes. Played 3 different roles, starting point, backup point, starting sg. I see why he got that contract for how well he played down the stretch. Leonard would have open things up for him.

[superbigtime]

this is insulting to albatrosses.

[SAGirl]

He looked like an albatross to start the season. People forget how he started the season right where he left it off against GSW a year ago.. with bad shooting and poor decision making, horrible defense. His "no pressure" comments made it look worse.

He ended the season in a better personal note tho.
Considering the Spurs struggles with their shooting, the youth and inexperience of new guards (and lack of shooting from Dijon), and Tony and Manu having a foot out in retirement at least... I don't see him getting traded.

[DPG21920]

I’ve said before, I firmly believe Mills played himself into a positive asset. IF SA wanted to get rid of Mills they may actually get something in return vs having to give something.

3 years at 36M is not a bad deal any more for Mills.

[sasaint]

He looked like an albatross to start the season. People forget how he started the season right where he left it off against GSW a year ago.. with bad shooting and poor decision making, horrible defense. His "no pressure" comments made it look worse.

He ended the season in a better personal note tho.
Considering the Spurs struggles with their shooting, the youth and inexperience of new guards (and lack of shooting from Dijon), and Tony and Manu having a foot out in retirement at least... I don't see him getting traded.

Yeah, unless PATFO gets deposed, I don't see Patty getting traded. The last hope is that he will return to his spark-off-the-bench role and play half the minutes he logged this season.

Basically, the Spurs need to reduce the quantity in their backcourt while increasing the quality. Don't really see that happening.

[Down Under]

I’ve said before, I firmly believe Mills played himself into a positive asset. IF SA wanted to get rid of Mills they may actually get something in return vs having to give something.

3 years at 36M is not a bad deal any more for Mills.
I think someone else said, if DG goes, Mills could well start like this year as the 2 guard. Murray is already an All NBA defensive guard & he's got the length & anticipation to guard the 1 & 2. I'm assuming even with DJ's progression, he's still not going to be much of a threat from 3 this year, so you couldn't have anymore non shooting starters. It'll never happen, but I'd be interested if Green came back, to move Kawhi to the 4 - DJ, Mills, Green, Kawhi, LMA. Would give you shooting, guys who can move off the ball, creators & ridiculous defense.

[TheDoctor]

I think someone else said, if DG goes, Mills could well start like this year as the 2 guard. Murray is already an All NBA defensive guard & he's got the length & anticipation to guard the 1 & 2. I'm assuming even with DJ's progression, he's still not going to be much of a threat from 3 this year, so you couldn't have anymore non shooting starters. It'll never happen, but I'd be interested if Green came back, to move Kawhi to the 4 - DJ, Mills, Green, Kawhi, LMA. Would give you shooting, guys who can move off the ball, creators & ridiculous defense.

That's a terrible panorama :vomit:

[DPG21920]

I wouldn’t mind:

Murray/White/Danny/Kawhi/LMA

Then get another ball handler like a Tyreke Evans type to play with Mills off the bench.

[DAF86]

I'm sure Brown would be cool with adding Mills to the Sixers.

[wildbill2u]

Package Mills with Kwahi and make the team that wants Kwahi take Mills. Gets us free of two possible problems at one time. Take two good players or supergood and draft pick.

[dabom]

Package Mills with Kwahi and make the team that wants Kwahi take Mills. Gets us free of two possible problems at one time. Take two good players or supergood and draft pick.

:lmao

[objective]

Mills is awful.

If he shows up fat again on media day ... God help us all.

[TheGreatYacht]

How many more days until this fat aboriginal piece of shit's contract expires? It feels like it's been a decade....

[RD2191]

How many more days until this fat aboriginal piece of shit's contract expires? It feels like it's been a decade....

Tbh

[WallyTiger]

like his jamaicahaircut.

[MultiTroll]

Where do you guys rank him all time on Pops Pets list?