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Quadzilla99
11-01-2017, 08:01 PM
This is some depressing shit. People have no one to blame but themselves tbh

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D14G0

SnakeBoy
11-01-2017, 08:20 PM
he found more than one hundred federally funded courses covering everything from computer programming to nursing.

Another way of saying he found the federal govt was willing to prepare him to get a job doing everything from phone support to emptying bedpans for $8.50/hour

dabom
11-01-2017, 08:22 PM
SAD.

Quadzilla99
11-01-2017, 09:42 PM
Another way of saying he found the federal govt was willing to prepare him to get a job doing everything from phone support to emptying bedpans for $8.50/hour
Well I don't think that's true but regardless aren't you a limited govt conservative? You would probably be against any govt paying for retraining. Politics aside it's these own people's fault if they sit around waiting for a dying industry to come back. Should get a new career and/or MOVE which is important. People have always had to move to where the jobs are and a lot of people like this wanna stay in these dying towns and blame politicians for not making their towns hotbeds for jobs

Pavlov
11-01-2017, 09:47 PM
:lol just sit around and wait for Santa to give det black lung back.

boutons_deux
11-01-2017, 09:53 PM
The Trump Budget Cuts Hit Coal Communities and Workers Where It Hurts

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/reports/2017/04/24/430842/trump-budget-cuts-hit-coal-communities-workers-hurts/

Xevious
11-01-2017, 09:55 PM
Do these young dudes really want chronic lung problems and to be screwed out of their pensions like their fathers and grandfathers?

pgardn
11-01-2017, 09:58 PM
OH no!

Got to travel! Instead of going down a hole in the backyard.
Bunch of lazy ass black lunged fools...

Coal jobs are preferable to those in natural gas, they said, because the mines are close to home, while pipeline work requires travel.

monosylab1k
11-02-2017, 08:30 AM
Another way of saying he found the federal govt was willing to prepare him to get a job doing everything from phone support to emptying bedpans for $8.50/hour

:lmao having no idea how much money nurses make.

RandomGuy
11-02-2017, 08:36 AM
This is some depressing shit. People have no one to blame but themselves tbh

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D14G0

Dumb shits. Keep voting Republican, see how much good that does you.

RandomGuy
11-02-2017, 08:38 AM
Another way of saying he found the federal govt was willing to prepare him to get a job doing everything from phone support to emptying bedpans for $8.50/hour

Even dumber shit, talking out his ass without knowing what the training actually does. Par for the course. Some of the this you say makes me wonder how you manage to tie your shoes.

SnakeBoy
11-02-2017, 11:18 AM
Even dumber shit, talking out his ass without knowing what the training actually does. Par for the course. Some of the this you say makes me wonder how you manage to tie your shoes.

So educate me.

What is the computer programing coursework the govt provide coal miners and what developer position are they qualified for when they complete the course?

What is the nursing coursework for coalminers? Are they RN's or LVN's when they finish the course?

RandomGuy
11-02-2017, 11:23 AM
So educate me.

What is the computer programing coursework the govt provide coal miners and what developer position are they qualified for when they complete the course?

What is the nursing coursework for coalminers? Are they RN's or LVN's when they finish the course?

"do my work for me" :lmao

No thanks.

SnakeBoy
11-02-2017, 05:56 PM
"do my work for me" :lmao

No thanks.

^ doesn't "know what the training actually does"

Pavlov
11-02-2017, 05:58 PM
Looked better then nothing from what I read.

Quadzilla99
11-02-2017, 08:04 PM
Dumb shits. Keep voting Republican, see how much good that does you.

I wasn't even being partisan here. Point is these people wanted to hear the coal mines were being reopened so they ignored anyone who told them otherwise. And they're ignoring the need to get a new career now. Lack of personal responsibility and accountability it's what's fucking these people over

Th'Pusher
11-02-2017, 08:22 PM
So educate me.

What is the computer programing coursework the govt provide coal miners and what developer position are they qualified for when they complete the course?

What is the nursing coursework for coalminers? Are they RN's or LVN's when they finish the course?

I can’t speak to the RN coursework, but the computer programming training appears to be in the same vein as the CodeUp program here in SA. The company I work for hires developer I positions out of that program with Starting salaries at $40-$50k.

SnakeBoy
11-02-2017, 09:41 PM
I can’t speak to the RN coursework, but the computer programming training appears to be in the same vein as the CodeUp program here in SA. The company I work for hires developer I positions out of that program with Starting salaries at $40-$50k.

Well it's been well over a decade since I did any programming so maybe things have changed but I have a hard time believing your Codeup story. A ged and $18,000 and they'll make you a developer in 18 weeks...sounds shady to me. Is your company some temp provider? Why would they give $50K to someone with a GED who has only completed an 18 week course and has zero experience?

A lot of my friends are programmers and I don't know of any company that doesn't require a bachelor's for a developer position.

boutons_deux
11-02-2017, 09:42 PM
Trash wants you to bail out big coal

The Trump administration wants to force electricity customers to pay for a $10.6 billion annual bailout of the failing coal and nuclear industries through surcharges on their monthly energy bills.

The quietly announced proposal would require ratepayers to fully underwrite a new mandate that coal and nuclear plants hold a minimum of 90 days' worth of fuel on-site under the false premise of providing security from power outages.

a massive government-mandated transfer of wealth from consumers to coal and nuclear companies.

"This is like changing the energy system from capitalism to communism—and the U.S. government wants to do it within the next two weeks,"

only 0.00007 percent of all major power disruptions over the past five years were due to fuel supply problems,

Evidence points to a big handout to Big Coal from a president who campaigned on reviving the declining industry.

So in late September, just days before Murray’s predicted bankruptcy, the Department of Energy proposed new rules to intervene in state electricity markets by subsidizing coal and nuclear power plants—the rule change Murray Energy sought.

So clearly this isn’t about power outages

Spending “$11 billion to prop up power plants that don’t change reliability is just not good policy,”

Nearly all of the $10.6 billion paid annually by Americans would go to 10 or fewer companies,

These subsidies would impose significant costs on electricity customers and require them to “pay the full costs of power plants that are too expensive to compete against cheaper alternatives in the market,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trump-wants-you-to-bail-out-big-coal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

So people have to pay $10B so Trash can keep his promise to one fucking coal asshole.

Th'Pusher
11-03-2017, 12:16 PM
Well it's been well over a decade since I did any programming so maybe things have changed but I have a hard time believing your Codeup story. A ged and $18,000 and they'll make you a developer in 18 weeks...sounds shady to me. Is your company some temp provider? Why would they give $50K to someone with a GED who has only completed an 18 week course and has zero experience?

A lot of my friends are programmers and I don't know of any company that doesn't require a bachelor's for a developer position.

Well, you haven’t been a productive member of the workforce for over a decade and I’m currently in the IT industry, Sooo, maybe stfu...

Kim Jong-il
11-03-2017, 12:24 PM
Well, you haven’t been a productive member of the workforce for over a decade and I’m currently in the IT industry, Sooo, maybe stfu...
https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-29-2014/Xxkqb3.gif

RandomGuy
11-03-2017, 12:26 PM
^ doesn't "know what the training actually does"

Still not going to do your work for you. Quit begging.

It isn't like it is hard to show the specifics of the training. G-zus.

Read a bit, link it here.

Let me know if you need help with that, be happy to do some screen caps for you.

boutons_deux
02-17-2018, 02:17 PM
Black Lung Study Finds Biggest Cluster Ever Of Fatal Coal Miners' Disease

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/02/05/NIOSHslide_wide-f1407c70da6e152fe3a03efbe01ba75e405f7d5d-s800-c85.jpg

Epidemiologists at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health say they've identified the largest cluster of advanced black lung disease ever reported,

a cluster that was first uncovered by NPR (https://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505577680/advanced-black-lung-cases-surge-in-appalachia) 14 months ago.

In a research letter (http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/10.1001/jama.2017.18444) published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association, NIOSH confirms 416 cases of progressive massive fibrosis or complicated black lung in three clinics in central Appalachia from 2013 to 2017.

"This is the largest cluster of progressive massive fibrosis ever reported in the scientific literature,"

"We've gone from having nearly eradicated PMF in the mid-1990s to the highest concentration of cases that anyone has ever seen,"

"When I first implemented this clinic back in 1990, you would see ... five [to] seven ... PMF cases" a year,

The clinics now see that many cases every two weeks, he says, and

have had 154 new diagnoses of PMF since the fieldwork for the NIOSH study concluded a year ago.

"That's an indication that it's not slowing down," Carson says. "We are seeing something that we haven't seen before."

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/583456129/black-lung-study-biggest-cluster-ever-of-fatal-coal-miners-disease?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20180211&utm_campaign=&utm_term=

and Trash, lover of coal miners' campaign donations, will do nothing to help sick coal miners, and intends to cut Medicaid and Medicare that coal miners depend on for health care.

boutons_deux
10-01-2020, 04:37 PM
He's a billionaire, but will screw miners again

by digging into their black lung funds that he worked so hard to limit

Coal Baron Who Fought to Weaken Black Lung Protections Files for Black Lung Benefits

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/ktkebeiscgh4yejnvdxn.jpg

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAE AAAICTAEAOw==
https://earther.gizmodo.com/coal-baron-who-fought-to-weaken-black-lung-protections-1845240010 (https://earther.gizmodo.com/coal-baron-who-fought-to-weaken-black-lung-protections-1845240010?utm_source=gizmodo_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-10-01)

RandomGuy
10-01-2020, 06:00 PM
More for the schadenfreude files.