Game Thread: Spurs vs. Hornets -- Fri. (11/3) - 7:30/C (4:30am Riga Time)

[TheGreatYacht]

Bryn Forbes. I. Called. That.

Anything Mills can do, Forbes can do better.

[raybies]

oh how thou hast yearned for some offense. let it rain

[SPURt]

Forbes and Gay finally doing work

[DAF86]

Kawhi doesn't fix the Spurs' awful PG situation, lack of athletic/defensive bigs, and only somewhat mitigates the massive lack of overall athleticism and penetration.

Same defecencies we had last season where we were the second best team in the league.

[SPURt]

Bryn Forbes. I. Called. That.

Anything Mills can do, Forbes can do better.
This. Mills is broken.

[duncan2k5]

FORBES!!!!!

[MVPCues]

I think I'm starting to become a Gay man!

[hater]

:tu gay forbws :tu

Only bright spot in this team

[Robz4000]

Spurs can't afford for this to be close at the end, they have no counter for Kemba. Need to maintain a sizeable lead the rest of the way or they lose.

[sasaint]

What will you say if Forbes signs elsewhere next summer for cheap a la JSimms and Spurs keep 50Mills?

I don't know exactly what I'd say, but it would involve some bad words.

[RD2191]

I think I'm starting to become a Gay man!

Ha! Gay!

[raybies]

I think I'm starting to become a Gay man!
better to come out and say it than to hold it in

[bklynspursfan]

Same defecencies we had last season where we were the second best team in the league.

Not to mention Gay is an upgrade over anything we lost from last season.

[TheGreatYacht]

Good d by Bryn on Lamb

[duncan2k5]

Bryn Forbes. I. Called. That.

Anything Mills can do, Forbes can do better.

THIS!

[sasaint]

Forbes good D on Lamb.

[raybies]

Spurs can't afford for this to be close at the end, they have no counter for Kemba. Need to maintain a sizeable lead the rest of the way or they lose.
sgreed

[hater]

I want gay on my back ASAP

In a jersey i want a gay jersey

[bklynspursfan]

Dam... Even LDN making lobs :wow

[ace3g]

Green alley oop to Dejounte!!!

[Ron Swanson]

Murray almost jumped out of the building.

[BatManu20]

Gay is in a funk.


Gay is no longer in a funk.

[TheGreatYacht]

Imagine all the lobs a lineup of Murray, Paul, Simmons, Gay, Joffrey could've had :cry

[raybies]

:wow we hoopin now baby!

who let the DAWGS OUT!

[duncan2k5]

DEEEEEEEJAAAAAAY!!

[Chris]

Most exciting 2 minutes of Spurs basketball so far :tu

[Robz4000]

Same defecencies we had last season where we were the second best team in the league.

Spurs had Simmons playing at a high level in the postseason to provide athleticism/penetration (as well as another plus defender) along with MVParker showing up in the first round, and say what you will about Dedmon but he was statistically one of the best defensive bigs in the league for a good stretch of last season.

[Nathan89]

Maybe we can unload Patty if we package Forbes with him:bang

[hater]

Taco eaters finally cheering for a change

[sasaint]

Forbes is money on that free throw line pull-up jumper.

[TheGreatYacht]

Forbes 7/10

Mills 1/5

Showing the fat Aussie how to pull up from mid range

[RD2191]

Taco eaters finally cheering for a change

They probably ran out of tacos TBH

[rastaspur]

Rudy gay has put to rest the issue of whether the injury stripped him of athletic ability, speed or agility.

That third quarter was impressive. Small ball can be lethal when kawhi gets back.

Gay and anderson at the four with Kawhi back is going to be the best lineups.

[TheGreatYacht]

Gross lineup. Pop hates leads.

[SAGirl]

Gasol :td

[Robz4000]

Here comes Kemba...

[boutons_deux]

Pau 15 ft shot not in the cylinder

[TheGreatYacht]

Gross lineup. Pop hates leads.

[sasaint]

Rudy gay has put to rest the issue of whether the injury stripped him of athletic ability.

That third quarter was impressive. Small ball can be lethal when kawhi gets back.

Gay and anderson at the four with Kawhi back is going to be the best lineups.

Tell Pop. I bet we still see a lot of the LMA/Pau pairing.

[SAGirl]

Glad for Bryn. He played well. I think he needed that confidence booster. :toast

[raybies]

3rd to danny

[bklynspursfan]

Starters f'ing this one up

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Didn’t we already see this movie last night?

[SAGirl]

Bad DJ and Danny connection.

[Robz4000]

Lead was nice while it lasted. Kemba Walker's gonna take it from here.

[TheGreatYacht]

Gross lineup. Pop hates leads.
*cough*

Give me the fucking reigns to this franchise.

[sasaint]

Glad for Bryn. He played well. I think he needed that confidence booster. :toast

Glad for Spurs.

[BatManu20]

Ugh Pau

[SPURt]

Pop, “we’re starting to look pretty bad. Patty get in there” ugh

[DAF86]

Spurs had Simmons playing at a high level in the postseason to provide athleticism/penetration (as well as another plus defender) along with MVParker showing up in the first round, and say what you will about Dedmon but he was statistically one of the best defensive bigs in the league for a good stretch of last season.

Simmons' production is easily repleaceable with what Gay provides, and then some. Parker can still comeback. And Dedmon was a bench warmer during the playoffs. C'mon son, now you are reaching. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop, “we’re starting to look pretty bad. Patty, Head, DLeague, Manure get in there” ugh

Fixed

[SAGirl]

Glad for Spurs.
I am not convinced he will make entrenched guys disposable but he's up for a contract season just as much as others.

[BatManu20]

Bench comes in and gets us a favorable lead, starters come in and immediately lose it. Beautiful.

[hater]

Simmons' production is easily repleaceable with what Gay provides, and then some. Parker can still comeback. And Dedmon was a bench warmer during the playoffs. C'mon son, now you are reaching. :lol

To have any chance in hell we need both Gay and Simmons

Instead we have Hamburger Mills and the dead leftovers of Manure

[TheGreatYacht]

Bench comes in and gets us a favorable lead, starters come in and immediately lose it. Beautiful.starters and Manu

[Robz4000]

Simmons' production is easily repleaceable with what Gay provides, and then some. Parker can still comeback. And Dedmon was a bench warmer during the playoffs. C'mon son, now you are reaching. :lol

I wasn't talking strictly playoffs since the Spurs have to actually get there this season.

[unleashbaynes]

I hate Patty

[DAF86]

Get Forbes and Gay in there you fucking old fuck.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs choking at an alarming rate this season

[Robz4000]

This one's done, Spurs can't stop Walker, Lamb, or dwert.

[sasaint]

I am not convinced he will make entrenched guys disposable but he's up for a contract season just as much as others.

I can only hope he does.

[SAGirl]

Bench comes in and gets us a favorable lead, starters come in and immediately lose it. Beautiful.
Kemba just shreds Patty.

[bklynspursfan]

Game 5 Manu..

[sasaint]

This one's done, Spurs can't stop Walker, Lamb, or dwert.

Not looking good. Starters...

[marinoman]

Forbes please

[raybies]

MANU

[duncan2k5]

why is patty in??

[bklynspursfan]

Kemba just shreds Patty.

Shreds most guys to be fair lol

[DAF86]

I wasn't talking strictly playoffs since the Spurs have to actually get there this season.

Well, you defenittely were talking about the playoffs when you mentioned Simmons' strong finish to the season and MVParker, tbh. Pick a lane son. :lol

[MVPCues]

I wonder if that facial feels worse knowing a 40 year old did it.

[sasaint]

No. Take out 50Mills not Danny!

[duncan2k5]

GINOBILI!!!!!!!!

[rastaspur]

That manu crossover and dunk was nice.

[unleashbaynes]

Shouldn't come down to Manu having to do shit like that for Spurs to win....

[Snaq O'Meal]

Get Forbes and Gay in there you fucking old fuck.

:pop: "Forbes and Gay need to get over themselves."

[bklynspursfan]

Bryn still feeling it!

And we were on the other end of a 4 point play for a change :wow

[TheGreatYacht]

Bryn fucking forbes. Finally not making me look like shit

[BatManu20]

There you go Forbes!

[$pursDynasty]

Neal with it, Loaded magazine

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Oh god Kyle :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Fathead fastbreak at 5:00 mark in 4Q :lmao LakerHater PLEASE

[bklynspursfan]

Anderson what the heck was that lol. Sheesh

[rastaspur]

Nice forbes.

[raybies]

OMG FORBES LOADEDEDED MAGAZINEEEE

[marinoman]

So many dipshits owe Forbes an apology

[ElNono]

:lmao that slow-break

[MVPCues]

Well there is a slow mo highlight for everyone...

[sasaint]

Patty feeling pressure from Forbes?

[LittleCriminal]

LOL ANderson Fukkin Sux!!

[bklynspursfan]

:pop: "Forbes and Gay need to get over themselves."

Forbes was in already. And Gay is playing a b2b coming off a serious injury. Much more reasonable explanation .

There was no question that he wouldn't finish this game

[duncan2k5]

Kle too slow...and forbes still has trash defense

[raybies]

there ya go Patty

[TheGreatYacht]

So many dipshits owe Forbes an apology

[sasaint]

:lmao that slow-break

Kyle taketh and giveth right back. Smh.

[hater]

Damn everyones streams are slow as shit

[SAGirl]

Shreds most guys to be fair lol
that is true. tough guy

[Robz4000]

Well, you defenittely were talking about the playoffs when you mentioned Simmons' strong finish to the season and MVParker, tbh. Pick a lane son. :lol

I was talking in general. The potential was there on last year's roster with Parker's brief return to form, but this year the Spurs lack those components. BP3 and Gay may prove to be great fits, but they lack the abilities that Simmons/Dedmon brought.

[rastaspur]

It took lamb five years to become a legit nba player. Always had the talent. Just took a while for him to put it together and get a chance.

[bklynspursfan]

Patty!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Patty Mills was a bargain

[Nathan89]

"Where's my 50mil?"-Forbes

[raybies]

patty

[sasaint]

"Where's my 50mil?"-Forbes

HaHa!

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

G'day mate

[bklynspursfan]

Dwight was camping out in the paint. 3 seconds and then some

[Robz4000]

Need to stop with the quick shots.

[SAGirl]

Finally :toast

[rastaspur]

Mills Baseline Floater iS A Trash shot. Just awful.

[Robz4000]

Terrible, dumb mistakes keeping Charlotte in this.

[bklynspursfan]

Patty Thrills making a comeback?

[raybies]

PLEASE PATTY BE BACK AND NOT BE TEASING US

[Robz4000]

Refs...

[sasaint]

Kemba draws fouls like Manu once did.

[SAGirl]

I want this game to finish up already...

[Nathan89]

Patty drafting behind Forbes:lmao

[sasaint]

PLEASE PATTY BE BACK AND NOT BE TEASING US

This! Would make a world of difference for the Spurs.

[rastaspur]

Nice to see patty hit a few 3's tonight.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Spurs don't wanna win this game

[bklynspursfan]

PLEASE PATTY BE BACK AND NOT BE TEASING US

Suuuper early in the season, lot of our guys (ahem TP) start out slow and take longer to get into a groove.

It'd be great if he's more consistent moving forward, but it's just way too early to panic about him. Season starting earlier too , definite adjustment period for these guys.

[rastaspur]

This bacon rookie looks like a solid pic at #40.

[SAGirl]

F*ck

[Robz4000]

50Mills closing for the first time this season :tu

[DAF86]

I was talking in general. The potential was there on last year's roster with Parker's brief return to form, but this year the Spurs lack those components. BP3 and Gay may prove to be great fits, but they lack the abilities that Simmons/Dedmon brought.

Simmons and Dedmon aren't the differemce between a WCF and a non-playoffs team, c'mon son. :lol

[$pursDynasty]

Good on ya Patty, I am with you when you're right

[raybies]

PATTY DAGGER

[bklynspursfan]

This bacon rookie looks like a solid pic at #40.

Dude is popping right now

[BatManu20]

Patty Cakes!

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Mills killing it tonight. Good game and good night

[sasaint]

LMA jacks one early in the clock. Manu misses. Then Patty nails a trey late. :wow

[raybies]

Forbes made Patty a believer

[Chris]

Patty dagger

[SAGirl]

So many dipshits owe Forbes an apology
nah.. they will be all "I called it"

[Robz4000]

Simmons and Dedmon aren't the differemce between a WCF and a non-playoffs team, c'mon son. :lol

Not alone, but with Kawhi/Parker missing significant time and the West being better it adds up.

[Robz4000]

Game not over.

[Hoops Czar]

Mills killing it tonight. Good game and good night

Yeah, he tends to kill it when the stakes aren't that high. Ultimate garbage time player.

[BatManu20]

Paaaatttttyyyyyyy

[sasaint]

Bacon missed Dwert under the basket.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Mills fourth quarter was better than any LMA fourth quarter this year

[$pursDynasty]

Almost f'd up

[bklynspursfan]

Yeah, he tends to kill it when the stakes aren't that high. Ultimate garbage time player.

The game was/is close... Idk how this constitutes as garbage time

[Chris]

Milli-mills :greedy :greedy :greedy cashing in :tu

[BatManu20]

Ugly win but a win nonetheless. We'll take it.


:flag:

[$pursDynasty]

Was this LMA's first time not being the top Spur scorer this season?

[raybies]

62 pts off the bench :wow

[SAGirl]

:flag:

[spursistan]

Surprise! Surprise! Aldridge didn't get his 20 pts/shots and we come away with the W..So there is that..

[DAF86]

Not alone, but with Kawhi/Parker missing significant time and the West being better it adds up.

So now you go you change the tune from "this team sucks" to "with Kawhi and Tony missing significat time it will be tough"? Again son, pick a lane and stay there. You are all over the place.

[Nathan89]

:flag:

[sasaint]

Mills fourth quarter was better than any LMA fourth quarter this year

True, but very low bar. Patty had an excellent 4th.

[MVPCues]

Feels good to break the losing streak.

[Hoops Czar]

The game was/is close... Idk how this constitutes as garbage time
Look at the opponent and tell me with a straight face that the Hornets could be an Eastern Conference finalist. Expected win was expected.

[SAGirl]

Was this LMA's first time not being the top Spur scorer this season?
not sure if the Celtics game brandon paul was... but the game was out of reach, Pop didn't have him play in the 4th Q.

[TheGreatYacht]

Guess who's spamming the front page with every turd that pops in his head tonight?

[raybies]

Aye BillMc you were one point off

[sasaint]

Ugly win but a win nonetheless. We'll take it.


:flag:

Not real pretty, but some very good developments - Bryn and 50Mills. I hope they can sustain.

[99 Problems]

MVPatty, little champ is back. :lobt2:

[raybies]

Dam good win. Offense woke up.

[bklynspursfan]

Look at the opponent and tell me with a straight face that the Hornets could be an Eastern Conference finalist. Expected win was expected.

Your criteria is confusing. Dude hit big shots, regardless of the opponent. Charlotte isn't exactly a lottery team

[SPURt]

Fixed
Ha! If he’s gonna play like this whenever I call him out I should do it more. Someone please pass the crow.

[daslicer]

Your criteria is confusing. Dude hit big shots, regardless of the opponent. Charlotte isn't exactly a lottery team

He's notorious troll who has a penchant for saying retarded things. For example last year he predicted the Grizzlies would easily take out the Spurs in the first round.

[Mikeanaro]

Fathead sucks, let go that bum.

[Hoops Czar]

Your criteria is confusing. Dude hit big shots, regardless of the opponent. Charlotte isn't exactly a lottery team
He hit big shots at home against a mediocre/bad team. Wake me when he does it against a team of consequence.

[SAGirl]

Your criteria is confusing. Dude hit big shots, regardless of the opponent. Charlotte isn't exactly a lottery team
Hoops Czar is just a flat out hate troll.. I don't even know why he bothers to post here...

[Hoops Czar]

Fathead sucks, let go that bum.
This post has chick bait written all over it.

[spursistan]

Guess who's spamming the front page with every turd that pops in his head tonight?
:lmao..

[Robz4000]

So now you go you change the tune from "this team sucks" to "with Kawhi and Tony missing significat time it will be tough"? Again son, pick a lane and stay there. You are all over the place.

This team is worse than last year even with Tony and Kawhi, but it's worsened without them and with the West being better. I'll make it simpler for you:

With Kawhi and Tony (not being forced minutes he doesn't deserve): Spurs win 52 games and make the playoffs as a 5th seed.

Without Kawhi and Tony (or with Tony being forcefed minutes): Spurs win 36 games and miss the playoffs.

If the Spurs still had Simmons' and Dedmon's sheer athleticism and ability to impact the game (even inconsistent as they were) to help make up the losses of Kawhi's impact on both ends and Parker's control of the offense they could keep their heads above water longer.

Even if Kawhi comes back, if it isn't until, say, the middle of December, the Spurs could be quite a few games below .500 when generally they're 10+ games above .500 at that point.

[BatManu20]

926645685470027776

[DAF86]

This team is worse than last year even with Tony and Kawhi, but it's worsened without them and with the West being better. I'll make it simpler for you:

With Kawhi and Tony (not being forced minutes he doesn't deserve): Spurs win 52 games and make the playoffs as a 5th seed.

Without Kawhi and Tony (or with Tony being forcefed minutes): Spurs win 36 games and miss the playoffs.

If the Spurs still had Simmons' and Dedmon's sheer athleticism and ability to impact the game (even inconsistent as they were) to help make up the losses of Kawhi's impact on both ends and Parker's control of the offense they could keep their heads above water longer.

Even if Kawhi comes back, if it isn't until, say, the middle of December, the Spurs could be quite a few games below .500 when generally they're 10+ games above .500 at that point.

Gay >>>> Simmons

Lauvergne about the same as Dedmon.

Green, Murray, Anderson and Forbes all better than last year.

Paul an intriguing piece.

I don't know how can anyone say, for sure, that this team is worst than last year. :lol

You do realize that we are 5-4 without a Top 3 player in the World, our starting PG and the backup center who was being one of the Spurs best player to start the season, while playing one of the toughest schedulles so far, right?

GS, Celtics, Wolves, Raptors, Hornets, Magic, Heat. All playoffs teams.

[raybies]

Gay >>>> Simmons

Lauvergne about the same as Dedmon.

Green, Murray, Anderson and Forbes all better than last year.

Paul an intriguing piece.

I don't know how can anyone say, for sure, that this team is worst than last year. :lol

You do realize that we are 5-4 without a Top 3 player in the World, our starting PG and the backup center who was being one of the Spurs best player to start the season, while playing one of the toughest schedulles so far, right?

GS, Celtics, Wolves, Raptors, Hornets, Magic, Heat. All playoffs teams.
great post. :toast

[SAGirl]

Gay >>>> Simmons

Lauvergne about the same as Dedmon.

Green, Murray, Anderson and Forbes all better than last year.

Paul an intriguing piece.

I don't know how can anyone say, for sure, that this team is worst than last year. :lol

You do realize that we are 5-4 without a Top 3 player in the World, our starting PG and the backup center who was being one of the Spurs best player to start the season, while playing one of the toughest schedulles so far, right?

GS, Celtics, Wolves, Raptors, Hornets, Magic, Heat. All playoffs teams.

I have to agree... plus I am not a fan of Gasol, but Dedmon fell so far out of favor with Pop he was benched in the playoffs and that was that. He was also a negative factor offensively towards the latter part of the season, for whatever reason. I liked him as a bench player, but not as a starter. Too foul prone, too mistake prone, his faults got magnified with too many minutes. He would help this bench though.

I am tired of talking about JSimms. He's happy where he is... Spurs chose Manu and MIlls and that is that.

[Mikeanaro]

This post has chick bait written all over it.
Just kill him with a bat, nobody will miss that guy, plays like Monty Burns anyway.

[spurs10]

Dam good win. Offense woke up.
Hell yeah! :toast

[Hoops Czar]

Gay >>>> Simmons

Lauvergne about the same as Dedmon.

Green, Murray, Anderson and Forbes all better than last year.

Paul an intriguing piece.

I don't know how can anyone say, for sure, that this team is worst than last year. :lol

You do realize that we are 5-4 without a Top 3 player in the World, our starting PG and the backup center who was being one of the Spurs best player to start the season, while playing one of the toughest schedulles so far, right?

GS, Celtics, Wolves, Raptors, Hornets, Magic, Heat. All playoffs teams.

Dedmon was definitely better than Lauvergne especially on the defensive end. Maybe you meant David Lee. Jury's still out on Murray being better than last year. He still looks inconsistent as hell. We've yet to see what Parker looks like after a horrific career threatening type injury and it's anybody's guess if Kawhi will be anywhere near 100% even when he does return.

[Robz4000]

Gay >>>> Simmons

Lauvergne about the same as Dedmon.

Green, Murray, Anderson and Forbes all better than last year.

Paul an intriguing piece.

I don't know how can anyone say, for sure, that this team is worst than last year. :lol

You do realize that we are 5-4 without a Top 3 player in the World, our starting PG and the backup center who was being one of the Spurs best player to start the season, while playing one of the toughest schedulles so far, right?

GS, Celtics, Wolves, Raptors, Hornets, Magic, Heat. All playoffs teams.

I'll give you the Dubs, Raptors, and Magic, but the rest of those teams have not been impressive and/or are playoff teams strictly because of the conference they play in. After Sunday the schedule really picks up so seeing where the team is at in a few weeks will be a much better barometer.

Regardless, the team itself has been anything but impressive on either end; if this were last year the Spurs would have won most games even without Kawhi strictly because everyone knew where to be on D while being able to generate open looks on offense. Can't say the same about this year's team.

While Gay > Simmons (which isn't a forgone conclusion if Simmons keeps up his stellar play), Lauvergne is not an improvement over Lee (nor was he at any point a top 7 player for the Spurs this season, much less top 3), and the intriguing prospects at this point are just prospects. Green is better than last year as is Forbes it seems; however, I haven't seen anything from Fathead/Murray to make me think they're better than last year so far. On top of that, you have to consider the regression of retained pieces like Gasol, Mills, Manu (age, not sucking), and even Parker when he comes back. LMA is still somewhat of a problem on the offensive end as well despite the numbers he's been putting up.

[DAF86]

Dedmon was definitely better than Lauvergne especially on the defensive end. Maybe you meant David Lee. Jury's still out on Murray being better than last year. He still looks inconsistent as hell. We've yet to see what Parker looks like after a horrific career threatening type injury and it's anybody's guess if Kawhi will be anywhere near 100% even when he does return.

I love Dedmon and wanted to keep him, but if come playoffs time you were on the doghouse, you weren't really that important to the team, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

He's notorious troll who has a penchant for saying retarded things. For example last year he predicted the Grizzlies would easily take out the Spurs in the first round.


Hoops Czar is just a flat out hate troll.. I don't even know why he bothers to post here...

Good to know :tu

Dude wasn't making sense

[Hoops Czar]

He's notorious troll who has a penchant for saying retarded things. For example last year he predicted the Grizzlies would easily take out the Spurs in the first round.
Why don't you find me that post clown shoes so we can both laugh at your reading comprehension.

[DAF86]

I'll give you the Dubs, Raptors, and Magic, but the rest of those teams have not been impressive and/or are playoff teams strictly because of the conference they play in. After Sunday the schedule really picks up so seeing where the team is at in a few weeks will be a much better barometer.

Regardless, the team itself has been anything but impressive on either end; if this were last year the Spurs would have won most games even without Kawhi strictly because everyone knew where to be on D while being able to generate open looks on offense. Can't say the same about this year's team.

While Gay > Simmons (which isn't a forgone conclusion if Simmons keeps up his stellar play), Lauvergne is not an improvement over Lee (nor was he at any point a top 7 player for the Spurs this season, much less top 3), and the intriguing prospects at this point are just prospects. Green is better than last year as is Forbes it seems; however, I haven't seen anything from Fathead/Murray to make me think they're better than last year so far. On top of that, you have to consider the regression of retained pieces like Gasol, Mills, Manu (age, not sucking), and even Parker when he comes back. LMA is still somewhat of a problem on the offensive end as well despite the numbers he's been putting up.

How can you know how we would look with last year team minus Kawhi when that didn't happen last year? The Spurs' good record without Kawhi last season is solely based on Pop picking the easiest games to rest him. The only time he missed an extended peridod of time because of injury, the Spurs got swept.

And the West didn't really get that much better. Rockets, Thunder and Wolves are all playing mediocre ball (just like the Spurs sans Kawhi).

You are just overreacting and are now all over the place looking for weak arguments to try and justify an emotional outburst, tbh.

[daslicer]

Why don't you find me that post clown shoes so we can both laugh at your reading comprehension.

:lol Wow a troll getting emotional after he's been outed.

[SAGirl]

I'll give you the Dubs, Raptors, and Magic, but the rest of those teams have not been impressive and/or are playoff teams strictly because of the conference they play in. After Sunday the schedule really picks up so seeing where the team is at in a few weeks will be a much better barometer.

Regardless, the team itself has been anything but impressive on either end; if this were last year the Spurs would have won most games even without Kawhi strictly because everyone knew where to be on D while being able to generate open looks on offense. Can't say the same about this year's team.

While Gay > Simmons (which isn't a forgone conclusion if Simmons keeps up his stellar play), Lauvergne is not an improvement over Lee (nor was he at any point a top 7 player for the Spurs this season, much less top 3), and the intriguing prospects at this point are just prospects. Green is better than last year as is Forbes it seems; however, I haven't seen anything from Fathead/Murray to make me think they're better than last year so far. On top of that, you have to consider the regression of retained pieces like Gasol, Mills, Manu (age, not sucking), and even Parker when he comes back. LMA is still somewhat of a problem on the offensive end as well despite the numbers he's been putting up.
Although who knows what roles they will play in the postseason (Murray needs to continue to develop, Kyle has to shoot the 3) both are better simply bc Kyle has already scored and done more against good teams in this short season than he had a chance to do all last season until he did it in the playoffs. Murray basically the same. They didn't get enough opportunities to really judge... A lot of garbage time, and the occasional game they got into bc there were injuries or Pop wanted some kind of different energy, but playing regularly does a lot for a player's confidence and ability to push through slumps. Examples: 50 Mills, Bryn Forbes not breaking out until this particular game, game 9th of the season. Kyle just had a 16/7/4/2/1 line against the dubs last night guarded by Durant. He just wasn't doing that last season until he did it once in the playoffs and guys dismissed it. He's had a double double and closed out the Wolves in the season opener. Dijon had a tremendous double double and seems more mature at times. He's still just 21 and will get better as the season goes on with experience, practices, coaching, etc. Forbes is better bc he developed balls. He was too shy shooting last season.

But it's really Mills and Manu that had been slumping bad, the team was missing their production. They will be fine once Kawhi gets back... I think you forget just how dominant Kawhi is. Once he comes back I am sure Kyle will get a lot of criticism bc everything all of a sudden will come to life, but it's not on Kyle... you swap any backup wing for an MVP it just won't be the same.

I liked Jsimms and would have wanted him back, but again... see above. Tired of the subject.

[FkLA]

ElNono who was that idiot popping the collar of his Argie jersey?

[DAF86]

ElNono who was that idiot popping the collar of his Argie jersey?

A popped collar is, alongside sunglasses indoor, the ultimate sign of a douchebag, tbh.

[Robz4000]

How can you know how we would look with last year team minus Kawhi when that didn't happen last year? The Spurs' good record without Kawhi last season is solely based on Pop picking the easiest games to rest him. The only time he missed an extended peridod of time because of injury, the Spurs got swept.

And the West didn't really get that much better. Rockets, Thunder and Wolves are all playing mediocre ball (just like the Spurs sans Kawhi).

You are just overreacting and are now all over the place looking for weak arguments to try and justify an emotional outburst, tbh.

Emotional outburst? I've been saying this team would be a borderline playoff team at best since July and my opinion of the team has only gotten worse with Kawhi's injury.

You can't use the WCF to judge how last year's team would play without Kawhi since they were playing the Dubs, but when Kawhi sat last season the Spurs were beating the EC dregs they've lost to so far this season.

The West did get better than last season; we're talking about multiple Top 40 players joining playoff teams from last year or teams that made trades last year getting even more time to gell. The Thunder, T'Pups, and Rockets will obviously need time to gel before they get rolling; hell, how many times do posters around here talk about how the Spurs' new pieces need time to play together before taking off? The only bad teams in the West this year are the Lakers, Suns, Mavs, and Kings. The rest should be at least decent.

[FkLA]

A popped collar is, alongside sunglasses indoor, the ultimate sign of a douchebag, tbh.

Agreed, tbh.

[DAF86]

Emotional outburst? I've been saying this team would be a borderline playoff team at best since July and my opinion of the team has only gotten worse with Kawhi's injury.

You can't use the WCF to judge how last year's team would play without Kawhi since they were playing the Dubs, but when Kawhi sat last season the Spurs were beating the EC dregs they've lost to so far this season.

The West did get better than last season; we're talking about multiple Top 40 players joining playoff teams from last year or teams that made trades last year getting even more time to gell. The Thunder, T'Pups, and Rockets will obviously need time to gel before they get rolling; hell, how many times do posters around here talk about how the Spurs' new pieces need time to play together before taking off? The only bad teams in the West this year are the Lakers, Suns, Mavs, and Kings. The rest should be at least decent.

Well, I'm tired of arguing this. Do you wanna bet something? If Kawhi gets back, and isn't all season in and out with injuries, the Spurs will make it at least to the second round.

[BillMc]

Aye BillMc (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16431) you were one point off

I'll take it my friend. Victory!:flag:

[BatManu20]

Good stuff.


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[BillMc]

Aye BillMc (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16431) you were one point off

I'll take it my friend! Victory!:flag:

[Hoops Czar]

:lol Wow a troll getting emotional after he's been outed.

Gambit1990, If you have something to say to me, why don't you just use your main account instead of hiding behind these silly, unfunny, deadbeat troll accounts? Let's talk some more Paddy..... :lol

[venitian navigator]

The problem with this team is not if they are better than last year's team...but the perspective.
Too much money to Mills and Pau...that means they take a lot of the cap for some years and that they're not valuable trading pieces.
Too little improvement, at least at the moment, from two potential starters like Murray (looks he didn't use the summer to solve his main problems, see outside shot and high dribbling) and Kyle (better than last year but still too tentative for been the offensive weapon he could be considering his play making and advantage in highness over most of his opponents).
The fact that the bright spots, not including the clear improvement in Green (contract year?) and the sostitution of Simmons with Gay (who's clearly a better and more reliable and versatile player than the former, also considering he's still not 100 per cent), are from guys absolutely new to the system (Lauvergne and Paul) or relatively new (Forbes, who was an end of the bench player last year) and not guys more experienced with the team (Bertans).
However is too early to judge, the situation, as for now, looks a little confusing...

[BillMc]

Somebody needs to merge the 3rd quarter Rudy explosion with the "No! Not this guy" audio. :lol

[Robz4000]

Well, I'm tired of arguing this. Do you wanna bet something? If Kawhi gets back, and isn't all season in and out with injuries, the Spurs will make it at least to the second round.

Nah, I never bet against the Spurs; its just bad juju for me to bet against teams I root for. If the Spurs get the right match up they could definitely get to the second round. Been saying I think the Spurs still beat Houston since :lol _'Antoni. Don't think they beat OKC, the Clippers, or the Guests in a series though.

[DAF86]

The problem with this team is not if they are better than last year's team...but the perspective.
Too much money to Mills and Pau...that means they take a lot of the cap for some years and that they're not valuable trading pieces.
Too little improvement, at least at the moment, from two potential starters like Murray (looks he didn't use the summer to solve his main problems, see outside shot and high dribbling) and Kyle (better than last year but still too tentative for been the offensive weapon he could be considering his play making and advantage in highness over most of his opponents).
The fact that the bright spots, not including the clear improvement in Green (contract year?) and the sostitution of Simmons with Gay (who's clearly a better and more reliable and versatile player than the former, also considering he's still not 100 per cent), are from guys absolutely new to the system (Lauvergne and Paul) or relatively new (Forbes, who was an end of the bench player last year) and not guys more experienced with the team (Bertans).
However is too early to judge, the situation, as for now, looks a little confusing...

That I could agree with. In fact, I have said it many times. Mills and Pau's contract were huge mistakes that handicap the future of the franchise. But that's another argument. For this season, I strongly disagree that this team is in jeopardy of not making the playoffs.

[SAGirl]

Emotional outburst? I've been saying this team would be a borderline playoff team at best since July and my opinion of the team has only gotten worse with Kawhi's injury.

You can't use the WCF to judge how last year's team would play without Kawhi since they were playing the Dubs, but when Kawhi sat last season the Spurs were beating the EC dregs they've lost to so far this season.

The West did get better than last season; we're talking about multiple Top 40 players joining playoff teams from last year or teams that made trades last year getting even more time to gell. The Thunder, T'Pups, and Rockets will obviously need time to gel before they get rolling; hell, how many times do posters around here talk about how the Spurs' new pieces need time to play together before taking off? The only bad teams in the West this year are the Lakers, Suns, Mavs, and Kings. The rest should be at least decent.
I will mention Lee was very significant to the team last year. I haven't seen enough of Lauvergne to really compare. Season is young still.

[Leetonidas]

Anyone trying to really extrapolate anything based on a 9 game sample size is illogical tbh especially without 3 of our main guys.

[daslicer]

Gambit1990, If you have something to say to me, why don't you just use your main account instead of hiding behind these silly, unfunny, deadbeat troll accounts? Let's talk some more Paddy..... :lol

:lol The irony a troll calling me a troll. Actually this is my only account. I have been posting under this account for over 10 years. You can look it up. Let's talk more about your stupid ass prediction of the Spurs losing to the Grizzlies in the first round. I would hope for your sake that you are a troll since since your basketball takes tend to be pretty shitty. It's very obvious you don't know shit about the game.

[SAGirl]

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[Hoops Czar]

:lol The irony a troll calling me a troll. Actually this is my only account. I have been posting under this account for over 10 years. You can look it up. Let's talk more about your stupid ass prediction of the Spurs losing to the Grizzlies in the first round. I would hope for your sake that you are a troll since since your basketball takes tend to be pretty shitty. It's very obvious you don't know shit about the game.

The irony is all yours Gambit1990. :lol if you want to talk about my stupid ass prediction, you're going to find that post first. I mean, you sit here talking the talk, Let's see if you can walk the walk. Come on, back up your smack. And then when you do find that so-called post, we can both sit here and laugh out loud at your poor, pathetic, I'm a 40 year old virgin with a Mohawk living rent free in my parent's tool shed, reading comprehension.

[daslicer]

The irony is all yours Gambit1990. :lol if you want to talk about my stupid ass prediction, you're going to find that post first. I mean, you sit here talking the talk, Let's see if you can walk the walk. Come on, back up your smack. And then when you do find that post, we can both sit here and laugh out loud at your poor, pathetic, I'm a 40 year old virgin with a Mohawk living rent free in my parent's tool shed, reading comprehension.

:lol Wow troll meltdown. You truly are a desperate crazy nutcase. I only have one account. You are reaching for straws here.

[ECOV]

Somebody needs to merge the 3rd quarter Rudy explosion with the "No! Not this guy" audio. :lol
This :lol

[Hoops Czar]

:lol Wow troll meltdown. You truly are a desperate crazy nutcase. I only have one account. You are reaching for straws here.
And you're referencing a prediction that doesn't exist. You crazy little tiny nutsack, you. I want to see that post Gambit. Surely, you can back up your smack talk.

[LakerHater]

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[Raven]

Dedmon was definitely better than Lauvergne especially on the defensive end. Maybe you meant David Lee. Jury's still out on Murray being better than last year. He still looks inconsistent as hell. We've yet to see what Parker looks like after a horrific career threatening type injury and it's anybody's guess if Kawhi will be anywhere near 100% even when he does return.

this makes no sense

[ElNono]

A popped collar is, alongside sunglasses indoor, the ultimate sign of a douchebag, tbh.

And Lakers jersey at the AT&T Center, tbh