View Full Version : Trumptards getting their dicks kicked in in Virginia
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:05 PM
:lol Democrats running a train on Republicans.
:lol Trump era politics already dead
baseline bum
11-07-2017, 08:09 PM
Huh? It's only 2.5 points with 48% reporting
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:10 PM
They got their asses kicked in NJ for sure.
Th'Pusher
11-07-2017, 08:10 PM
NBC calling it for Northam
Th'Pusher
11-07-2017, 08:11 PM
So republicans lost 2 governors...
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:12 PM
Huh? It's only 2.5 points with 48% reporting
Projections are that Northam will increase that lead by a significant margin.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:12 PM
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Th'Pusher
11-07-2017, 08:12 PM
Educated whites showed up to vote in Virginia.
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:13 PM
Vrginia on track to elect a transgender woman and a black socialist to state congress too :lmao Trumptardism is dead.
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:15 PM
Vrginia on track to elect a transgender woman and a black socialist to state congress too :lmao Trumptardism is dead.
I’ll make the obligatory “Who, Michelle and Barack?” joke so that Chucho or Spurtacular dont have to.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:17 PM
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rats jumping ship
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:18 PM
Projected to be the biggest ass kicking in a VA governor’s race since 1985 :lol
Pavlov
11-07-2017, 08:25 PM
Well, I've gotten my hopes up before....I'll wait.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:26 PM
Well, I've gotten my hopes up before....I'll wait.
They already called it
Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 08:28 PM
Educated whites showed up to vote in Virginia.
i love the well educatedhttp://i64.tinypic.com/2w4fvk9.jpg
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:31 PM
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CROFL if this happens
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:32 PM
Lt Gov and Attorney General are just about wrapped up for Dems too :lmao
baseline bum
11-07-2017, 08:32 PM
Lt Gov and Attorney General are just about wrapped up for Dems too :lmao
:toast
Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:35 PM
Steve Bannon getting bent over :lol
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Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 08:42 PM
Exit polls (http://www.cnn.com/election/2017/results/virginia-governor) show Gillespie winning non-college-educated whites 74 percent to 24 percent. In 2016, Trump won non-college-educated whites (http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/virginia/president) in Virginia 71 percent to 24 percent. This is pretty stable.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:44 PM
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lol
Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 08:48 PM
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Kim Jong-il
11-07-2017, 08:48 PM
There hasn’t been a curbstomping like this since Kobe’s final playoff appearances.
Th'Pusher
11-07-2017, 08:49 PM
Exit polls (http://www.cnn.com/election/2017/results/virginia-governor) show Gillespie winning non-college-educated whites 74 percent to 24 percent. In 2016, Trump won non-college-educated whites (http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/virginia/president) in Virginia 71 percent to 24 percent. This is pretty stable.
Sure. That's trump's base. But everyone else showed up to vote and Gillespie is getting smashed.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 08:51 PM
There hasn’t been a curbstomping like this since Kobe’s final playoff appearances.
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:lmao :lmao :lmao
Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 08:56 PM
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:lmao :lmao :lmao
sad!
And it all ends up with a zero sum at the end of the day. Some of you act like you're getting a windfall from it.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 09:01 PM
And it all ends up with a zero sum at the end of the day. Some of you act like you're getting a windfall from it.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PastelCompassionateIndianglassfish-max-1mb.gif
Blake
11-07-2017, 09:05 PM
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:lol
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 09:06 PM
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:lol
Yup. Thrown under the bus. Republicans own and deserve this.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 09:23 PM
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boutons_deux
11-07-2017, 09:24 PM
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:lol
Trash LIES. G went full racist Trashism.
Dems might just flip the house and take mayority of the Virginia house of Delegation.
10 seats out of 17 thus far.
monosylab1k
11-07-2017, 09:34 PM
And it all ends up with a zero sum at the end of the day. Some of you act like you're getting a windfall from it.
ok
Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 09:42 PM
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Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 09:56 PM
philly put in work too
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Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 09:59 PM
fox news not touching these elections at allhttp://i68.tinypic.com/11jratv.jpg
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 10:07 PM
fox news not touching these elections at allhttp://i68.tinypic.com/11jratv.jpg
Neither are Chris Darrin or TSA
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Chris
11-07-2017, 10:09 PM
And it all ends up with a zero sum at the end of the day. Some of you act like you're getting a windfall from it.
They have been taking massive L's since Trump got elected. Let them enjoy their little skirmish :lol
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 10:15 PM
They have been taking massive L's since Trump got elected. Let them enjoy their little skirmish :lol
:lol at your boy throwing his support around only to watch his niggas get swept. Kobe lookin ass.
hater
11-07-2017, 10:21 PM
:lmao at the semen cloud for a regular season win :lmao
Pavlov
11-07-2017, 10:21 PM
The salt in this thread is delicious.
More to come I'm sure.
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 10:27 PM
:lmao at the semen cloud for a regular season win :lmao
:lmao Republicans getting destroyed with Trumps backing
djohn2oo8
11-07-2017, 10:29 PM
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Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 10:36 PM
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hater
11-07-2017, 10:37 PM
:lmao this is like the sixers celebrating a regular season win vs the worriers :lmao
CONGRATULATIONS DANICA!!!
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Pavlov
11-07-2017, 10:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PgoU7AW.gif
Trill Clinton
11-07-2017, 10:46 PM
CONGRATULATIONS DANICA!!!
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Pavlov
11-07-2017, 10:49 PM
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pgardn
11-07-2017, 10:52 PM
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:lol
Did not embrace me...
So he lost. Not a meaningful embrace. Does he not mean he is a run of the mill Republican in the image of Bush? Trump now wants a full clasp and exchange of bodily fluids... Or, you lose.
Maybe Trump should just congratulate the winner and claim he has switched parties until a Republican that will butt f him wins. This is our president. It's amazing.
Did not embrace me...
So he lost. Not a meaningful embrace. Does he not mean he is a run of the mill Republican in the image of Bush? Trump now wants a full clasp and exchange of bodily fluids... Or, you lose.
Maybe Trump should just congratulate the winner and claim he has switched parties until a Republican that will butt f him wins. This is our president. It's amazing.
Trump did ROBO calls for him.
:lmao at the semen cloud for a regular season win :lmao
I dont get it. republicans are on the brink of losing the majority in Virginia.
This is more of a wild card win that gets you into the playoffs.
Th'Pusher
11-07-2017, 11:01 PM
It’ll be interesting to see how congressional Republicans in purple states respond to this. This, imo, is a clear bellwether for elections in purple districts. Voters rejecting Trump overwhelmingly.
boutons_deux
11-07-2017, 11:26 PM
ME expands Medicaid 60% - 40% :lol
pgardn
11-07-2017, 11:31 PM
Trump did ROBO calls for him.
Yeah, well I guess that's like a mere pat on the butt.
Not a full hug and grinding of the pelvises. (pelvi?)
And precious bodily fluid was not transported in either direction.
What a blow hard.
10 seats out of 17 thus far.
14 of 17 With more hanging in the air.
pgardn
11-07-2017, 11:52 PM
Democrats are hardly on the same page.
Still two parties in a state of flux.
Spurtacular
11-07-2017, 11:53 PM
:lol Snowflake liberals love to pretend governor races in blue states is an indictment on Trump.
Pavlov
11-07-2017, 11:54 PM
http://www.redmondequine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/rockonrope605.gif
baseline bum
11-07-2017, 11:59 PM
:lol Snowflake liberals love to pretend governor races in blue states is an indictment on Trump.
You rang?
https://image.ibb.co/kJfy3G/robert_mueller_fbi_right_pick_ex_fed.jpg
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 12:01 AM
:lmao
Spurminator
11-08-2017, 12:18 AM
Yeah, VA wasn't a big deal for Trump. Presidents always lend their voices to robocalls on behalf of party candidates in meaningless gubernatorial races.
DarrinS
11-08-2017, 12:26 AM
What a relief. Now brown kids will be safe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0thehNSUbc
Unless an illegal immigrant decides to go Neegan on young Muslim girls
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fairfax-loudoun-police-searching-for-missing-17-year-old-reported-to-have-been-assaulted/2017/06/18/02e379ac-5466-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html?utm_term=.55654f7bdb98
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 12:39 AM
What a relief. Now brown kids will be safe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0thehNSUbc
Unless an illegal immigrant decides to go Neegan on young Muslim girls
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fairfax-loudoun-police-searching-for-missing-17-year-old-reported-to-have-been-assaulted/2017/06/18/02e379ac-5466-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html?utm_term=.55654f7bdb98That 'll show 'em, Darrin!
Spurminator
11-08-2017, 12:40 AM
Yep, Virginia really needs to make illegal immigration illegal.
The salt in this thread is delicious.
More to come I'm sure.
So you like salty tasting things eh?
Clipper Nation
11-08-2017, 12:49 AM
Personally, I am shocked that a blue state voted for a Democrat.
https://i.imgur.com/PgoU7AW.gif
:lol
Spurtacular
11-08-2017, 12:56 AM
You rang?
https://image.ibb.co/kJfy3G/robert_mueller_fbi_right_pick_ex_fed.jpg
You carry a lot of water for Democrats for a guy who claims to be out of the political fray. Don't worry; I knew you were bull shitting.
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 12:58 AM
You carry a lot of water for Democrats for a guy who claims to be out of the political fray. Don't worry; I knew you were bull shitting.Mueller's a Republican appointed by a Republican who was appointed by a Republican.
And it's a pretty funny joke tbh.
Spurtacular
11-08-2017, 12:59 AM
Mueller's a Republican appointed by a Republican who was appointed by a Republican.
And it's a pretty funny joke tbh.
:lmao
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 01:00 AM
:lmaoAh, why's that funny?
Spurtacular
11-08-2017, 01:08 AM
Ah, why's that funny?
You pretending that Mueller isn't compromised.
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 01:10 AM
You pretending that Mueller isn't compromised.OK, explain how he's compromised.
Chris
11-08-2017, 01:22 AM
A tranny got voted in? Good Lord...maybe they will be the new hot bed for the mass exodus from California. We're sick of them here in Texas.
AaronY
11-08-2017, 01:32 AM
Mood right now
:elephant:elephant:danceclub:danceclub:danceclub:c heer:cheer:smokin:smokin:tongue:p::rollin:):)
MannyIsGod
11-08-2017, 02:38 AM
It's definitely not much of a surprise that VA voted for Democrats in the governorship. It's a blue state that Hilary carried. What is pretty shocking is the fact that this was a wave election where the control of the state house may have flipped (or at least ended in a tie) and that the margin was so big. It's not just VA either, as Medicare expansion won in Maine. When you couple that with the record ACA signups, you have a hard time painting a positive picture for Trump. The GOP was feeling OK after the special elections that they carried recently (Georgia, for example) but those were extremely favorable GOP locations. What happened in VA today was Democratic pickups in the statehouse unlike anything seen in over 100 years which includes places that have long been held by the GOP.
Of course the GOP will try to spin it, but the magnitude of the loss for them tonight is pretty much worst case scenario.
Quadzilla99
11-08-2017, 02:53 AM
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Quadzilla99
11-08-2017, 02:56 AM
Both of these people won too thank god
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Pavlov
11-08-2017, 02:59 AM
Both of these people won too thank god
925900272223883265Cricket fields! :lol
ElNono
11-08-2017, 03:30 AM
Both of these people won too thank god
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Fake news, false flag, possibly a mailer from the Podesta group, IMO...
monosylab1k
11-08-2017, 04:21 AM
Personally, I am shocked that a blue state voted for a Democrat.
Breitbart/Trump conservatives were the ones smugly acting like today was when they showed the world that they were the alpha male, dominant political group in this country, and they were pretty resoundingly told to fuck off.
What a relief. Now brown kids will be safe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0thehNSUbc
Unless an illegal immigrant decides to go Neegan on young Muslim girls
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fairfax-loudoun-police-searching-for-missing-17-year-old-reported-to-have-been-assaulted/2017/06/18/02e379ac-5466-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html?utm_term=.55654f7bdb98
What's with the hivemind like attitude of conservatives? Is this going to be like a talking point now?
I have a few cool conservative friends and they are brought this up separately.
14 of 17 With more hanging in the air.
Seems the dems could get the majority after all.
They're +1 at the moment. Lots of races seem to be deadlocked so a recount will happen.
https://i.imgur.com/jhLSape.jpg
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/virginia-general-elections
Splits
11-08-2017, 07:45 AM
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lol
Clipper Nation
11-08-2017, 08:39 AM
Breitbart/Trump conservatives were the ones smugly acting like today was when they showed the world that they were the alpha male, dominant political group in this country, and they were pretty resoundingly told to fuck off.
Any conservative that expected to win anything in Virginia of all states is a moron.
Blake
11-08-2017, 08:59 AM
A tranny got voted in? Good Lord...maybe they will be the new hot bed for the mass exodus from California. We're sick of them here in Texas.
Wow, how many do you know
Any conservative that expected to win anything in Virginia of all states is a moron.
Why are republicans acting like Virginia has always voted blue when in fact it's just now starting to happen? Virginia used to be republican stronghold for decades.
It has leaned blue since Obama won. That's not long at all in terms of voting when you take into account people aren't voting every year.
It's the same reason why until last night republicans still controlled the house of delegates in Virginia. :claw
Quadzilla99
11-08-2017, 09:26 AM
Any conservative that expected to win anything in Virginia of all states is a moron.
Democratic turnout inside the state was insane though compared to republican turnout and Dems won seats in Georgia
Clipper Nation
11-08-2017, 10:25 AM
Why are republicans acting like Virginia has always voted blue when in fact it's just now starting to happen? Virginia used to be republican stronghold for decades.
It has leaned blue since Obama won. That's not long at all in terms of voting when you take into account people aren't voting every year.
It's the same reason why until last night republicans still controlled the house of delegates in Virginia. :claw
Outside of the '70s and the '90s, Virginia has always been a purple state at absolute minimum and usually a blue state at the state level:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/virginia-election-history/?utm_term=.6d34915b5e37
With the population growth in Northern Virginia since the early 2000s, fueled overwhelmingly by Democrat voters, they're a solid blue state now.
Clipper Nation
11-08-2017, 10:41 AM
Democratic turnout inside the state was insane though compared to republican turnout and Dems won seats in Georgia
Meh. All Northam did to win was run up the score in the DC suburbs, Richmond and Hampton Roads. Any Democrat could do that.
As for Georgia, the Democrats gained a whopping three seats. In one of those districts, there were three Republicans splitting the vote vs. one Democrat. The state legislature remains overwhelmingly Republican.
All this talk of "the Democrats' comeback" still sounds like wishful thinking at this point.
RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 11:12 AM
Meh. All Northam did to win was run up the score in the DC suburbs, Richmond and Hampton Roads. Any Democrat could do that.
As for Georgia, the Democrats gained a whopping three seats. In one of those districts, there were three Republicans splitting the vote vs. one Democrat. The state legislature remains overwhelmingly Republican.
All this talk of "the Democrats' comeback" still sounds like wishful thinking at this point.
One party government, be it Democratic or Republican is bad. Without a choice, and the potential for negative feedback, you end up with Ted effing Cruz.
RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 11:16 AM
Why are republicans acting like Virginia has always voted blue when in fact it's just now starting to happen? Virginia used to be republican stronghold for decades.
It has leaned blue since Obama won. That's not long at all in terms of voting when you take into account people aren't voting every year.
It's the same reason why until last night republicans still controlled the house of delegates in Virginia. :claw
I predict a rapid uptick in Republican bitching about gerrymandering, especially in states whose legislatures flip to Democratic in the next few years.
RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 11:45 AM
"Like animals sensing the earthquake before it hits, members of Congress are finely attuned to potential political waves," said Doug Heye, a GOP strategist and former congressional aide who, along with others, is predicting more Republicans will announce soon that they won't seek re-election.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bad-night-for-trump-sets-the-stage-for-more-gop-infighting/ar-BBEJhFY?li=BBnb7Kz
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 12:03 PM
Republicans seek new path after failure of Gillespie’s ‘Trumpism without Trump’https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-seek-new-path-after-failure-of-gillespies-trumpism-without-trump/2017/11/07/3afb9144-c3e7-11e7-aae0-cb18a8c29c65_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.48132329d15e&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 12:07 PM
Trump just made a bad night for Republicans much worse for himself
Trump wasted no time in distancing himself from Gillespie, enjoying the spaciousness of his now-280-character tweets.
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/928074747316928513)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_normal.jpgDonald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!
7:40 PM - Nov 7, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/928074747316928513)
This was not a wise tweet.
We’ve noted before (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/05/12/the-one-little-number-that-so-far-is-all-of-the-protection-donald-trump-needs/) that Trump has an insurance premium against any calls for his impeachment.
His popularity with Republicans has slipped since the beginning of his presidency, but he’s still very popular with them, particularly more conservative members of his party.
(Per Gallup, more than 9 in 10 conservative Republicans approve of Trump.) :lol
Because Republican Party primaries see an overrepresentation of conservatives, that meant that Republicans eager to win reelection to Congress were less likely to turn on the president.
His claim that the GOP won four of four federal races misses a few important points.
The first is that those races were in Republican-held districts.
The second is that the Democrats saw big gains in most of those races relative to past elections.
The third is that the figure is actually four of five;
Trump likes to ignore a race in California won by the Democrats.
But it also does something very dangerous for Trump right now.
It shows, yet again, that he isn’t loyal to his political partners.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/07/trump-just-made-a-bad-night-for-republicans-much-worse-for-himself/?undefined=&utm_term=.4ad2ccf7b569&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Clipper Nation
11-08-2017, 12:41 PM
One party government, be it Democratic or Republican is bad. Without a choice, and the potential for negative feedback, you end up with Ted effing Cruz.
Or Bernie Sanders.
I don't disagree that a one-party government isn't a good thing. I'm just saying, once you look at the facts, the Democrats' wins yesterday were nowhere near as impressive as they're being hyped up to be.
RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 01:01 PM
Or Bernie Sanders.
I don't disagree that a one-party government isn't a good thing. I'm just saying, once you look at the facts, the Democrats' wins yesterday were nowhere near as impressive as they're being hyped up to be.
“Flipping 14 seats from red to blue in VA is the biggest Democratic pick-up since 1899,” wrote Jessica Post, executive director of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, in a tweet.
Agree to some extent. The wave is expected at this point. They did about as well as they should have.
More fund-raising, more turnout, and a very popular ex-president and ex-vice-president stumping for Democratic candidates.
National level GOP congress people are bailing in unusual numbers, meaning that the GOP will have primary battles that will likely put some outright nutters on the ballot for Democrats to slam-dunk on.
At the same time Democrats are building a deep bench of candidates with enough funds to be credible.
I guess we will get to see what the next 12 months bring. A steady drip of indictments of Trump campaign, and Trump white house officials will keep the GOP on the back heel.
Trump will, ironically, be the best thing that happened to the Democrats in years.
baseline bum
11-08-2017, 01:21 PM
National level GOP congress people are bailing in unusual numbers, meaning that the GOP will have primary battles that will likely put some outright nutters on the ballot for Democrats to slam-dunk on.
But the outright nutter won last time. I remember being in that same mindset as the Dear Leader was closing in on the nomination and then I had to catch myself, knowing Clinton could easily blow it.
djohn2oo8
11-08-2017, 01:24 PM
But the outright nutter won last time. I remember being in that same mindset as the Dear Leader was closing in on the nomination and then I had to catch myself, knowing Clinton could easily blow it.
The nutter had help.
baseline bum
11-08-2017, 01:32 PM
The nutter had help.
And the Russians are going to stop helping in 2018?
djohn2oo8
11-08-2017, 01:34 PM
And the Russians are going to stop helping in 2018?
It won't be stopped before 2018. Russia will be crippled as a country before 2020.
Quadzilla99
11-08-2017, 01:50 PM
It won't be stopped before 2018. Russia will be crippled as a country before 2020.
Based on what? Coming off his influence in the 2016 election Putin is stronger than ever. Maybe the single most powerful in the world considering he has nukes, can manipulate foreign elections, and rig his own elections. Trump can't get healthcare or most likely tax cuts in his own country. Honestly Putin is the most powerful person in the world probably
cd021
11-08-2017, 02:37 PM
Democratic turnout inside the state was insane though compared to republican turnout and Dems won seats in Georgia
The polls were packed, me and my brother went and voted around midday. In Charlottesville turnout was up 31% and went for Northam 84-16.
Chucho
11-08-2017, 02:52 PM
It won't be stopped before 2018. Russia will be crippled as a country before 2020.
That is just a stupid comment. Please defend that with some kind of substance.
cd021
11-08-2017, 02:52 PM
Why are republicans acting like Virginia has always voted blue when in fact it's just now starting to happen? Virginia used to be republican stronghold for decades.
It has leaned blue since Obama won. That's not long at all in terms of voting when you take into account people aren't voting every year.
It's the same reason why until last night republicans still controlled the house of delegates in Virginia. :claw
The demo's have changed drastically here. A lot of first generation and second generation Indian Americans immigrated here since around 2000, when I first moved Richmond (a suburb of actually) it had to be more that 90% white then. Its much closer to 50% now and the county is solid blue as opposed to deep red.
Charlottesville and Northern VA. are both Democratic strongholds and central Virginia is steadily turning blue. In the next ten years it could a deep blue state. The fact that we regained control of the House of Delegates by gaining 16 seats despite gerrymandering that favors the GOP is insane and should be terrifying for Conservatives in the state.
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 03:32 PM
That is just a stupid comment. Please defend that with some kind of substance.Well, Canada and Lithuania just passed their own Magnitsky Acts and there's talk the EU may follow suit. May see further isolation, but who knows?
Trainwreck2100
11-08-2017, 04:03 PM
The nutter had help.
From the dems who nominated a shitty candidate
RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Based on what? Coming off his influence in the 2016 election Putin is stronger than ever. Maybe the single most powerful in the world considering he has nukes, can manipulate foreign elections, and rig his own elections. Trump can't get healthcare or most likely tax cuts in his own country. Honestly Putin is the most powerful person in the world probably
You are overstating Putins power.
There is a huge backfire effect in Europe as Russian meddling has become more brazen, and more details come out.
His military is obsolete, oil is low, US gas exports are killing them, his population is getting older and sicker, educated people are leaving.
As US companies push LNG exports, his ability to bully the EU diminishes.
I can provide dozens of links of economic, technological, political, and geopolitical analysis to support this.
He doesn't have the revenue to fix his military's personnel shortcomings, or build up the kind of technological base to update his military.
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Our nation has shorted our nuclear arsenal's upkeep and we are still using software loaded on 5 1/4" floppy disks, fer fuck sake.
The Russians can't even find some of their nukes. I doubt their systems are any better, and almost certainly worse off.
RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 04:39 PM
The demo's have changed drastically here. A lot of first generation and second generation Indian Americans immigrated here since around 2000, when I first moved Richmond (a suburb of actually) it had to be more that 90% white then. Its much closer to 50% now and the county is solid blue as opposed to deep red.
Charlottesville and Northern VA. are both Democratic strongholds and central Virginia is steadily turning blue. In the next ten years it could a deep blue state. The fact that we regained control of the House of Delegates by gaining 16 seats despite gerrymandering that favors the GOP is insane and should be terrifying for Conservatives in the state.
Payback is going to be a bitch when the districts get re-drawn in a few years.
My worry is that the Democrats will not see the harm that stacking and packing did, and simply attempt to do the same to the Republicans that the GOP did to us. While it would serve the fuckers right, it would also not improve our political landscape in terms of bipartisanship.
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RandomGuy
11-08-2017, 04:42 PM
It's definitely not much of a surprise that VA voted for Democrats in the governorship. It's a blue state that Hilary carried. What is pretty shocking is the fact that this was a wave election where the control of the state house may have flipped (or at least ended in a tie) and that the margin was so big. It's not just VA either, as Medicare expansion won in Maine. When you couple that with the record ACA signups, you have a hard time painting a positive picture for Trump. The GOP was feeling OK after the special elections that they carried recently (Georgia, for example) but those were extremely favorable GOP locations. What happened in VA today was Democratic pickups in the statehouse unlike anything seen in over 100 years which includes places that have long been held by the GOP.
Of course the GOP will try to spin it, but the magnitude of the loss for them tonight is pretty much worst case scenario.
Fox is going to have to find a lot more emoji-based news.
cd021
11-08-2017, 04:59 PM
Payback is going to be a bitch when the districts get re-drawn in a few years.
My worry is that the Democrats will not see the harm that stacking and packing did, and simply attempt to do the same to the Republicans that the GOP did to us. While it would serve the fuckers right, it would also not improve our political landscape in terms of bipartisanship.
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I view it as a good thing, tbh. The GOP has mastered the art of Gerrymandering to stay in power. Unlike the national level, Virginia Democrats have a couple of good candidates upcoming elections 2021 and 2025 (Fairfax- the new Lieutenant Governor, and Mike Signer- the Mayor of Charlottesville). Having good candidates in a state that is trending bluer and bluer and redrawing the districts for the General Assembly could entrench us in power for years to come.
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 05:08 PM
"Payback is going to be a bitch when the districts get re-drawn in a few years."
gerrymandering will get unimaginably worse if the oligarchy's SCOTUS 5 decides partisan gerrymandering is Constitutional, this term.
hater
11-08-2017, 05:11 PM
Resident Trump nope Clintlery
cd021
11-08-2017, 05:12 PM
Outside of the '70s and the '90s, Virginia has always been a purple state at absolute minimum and usually a blue state at the state level:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/virginia-election-history/?utm_term=.6d34915b5e37
With the population growth in Northern Virginia since the early 2000s, fueled overwhelmingly by Democrat voters, they're a solid blue state now.
Agreed. Not mention the influx of Asian Americans into central Virginia, which is turning places in that part that were red, blue.
7 of the past 10 Governors of Virginia have been Democrats (dating back to 1982) with both Senators also being Democrats though it didn't starting voting blue in National Elections until 2008 with Obama after 40 years.
I think conservatives look at the national elections more instead of looking within the state elections.
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 05:17 PM
A black guy from Liberia got elected mayor of Helena MT, 0.62% black, along with progressives sweeping the city council.
Chucho
11-08-2017, 05:26 PM
Well, Canada and Lithuania just passed their own Magnitsky Acts and there's talk the EU may follow suit. May see further isolation, but who knows?
It's not leaving them "crippled" in 3 years tho. I can't think Liberal Chris has a handle on hyperbole, so I know that wasn't a loose statement.
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 05:30 PM
Virginia and New Jersey Elect Governors Totally Lacking Reality-Show Experience
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a03310d3c28d150d0b8d653/master/w_1626,c_limit/Borowitz-Virginia-New-Jersey-Elect-Governors-Lacking-Reality-show-Experience.jpg
VIRGINIA AND NEW JERSEY (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report))—Throwing caution to the wind, voters in Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday night overturned the political applecart and chose as their new governors two men with no reality-show experience whatsoever.
Republican officials were staggered by the voters’ decision because,
historically, reality shows have been a reliable proving ground for the nation’s finest leaders.
Ronna Romney McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, said that the voters’ risky bet on two men who had never set foot on a reality-show stage showed that the
electorate was acting “emotionally and not rationally.”
“You look at the résumés of these two men and you won’t find ‘Survivor,’ you won’t find ‘Big Brother,’ you won’t find ‘The Bachelor,’ ” she said.
“What we have are two individuals who are, to put it mildly, unfit for office.”
“This is not normal,” she said.
She gave both winning candidates credit for tapping into the angry voters’ anti-reality-show mood, but she warned, “Once these two have been in office, I think
voters will start longing for someone who had at least won an immunity idol or swallowed a live caterpillar.”
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/virginia-and-new-jersey-elect-governors-totally-lacking-reality-show-experience
baseline bum
11-08-2017, 05:33 PM
Payback is going to be a bitch when the districts get re-drawn in a few years.
My worry is that the Democrats will not see the harm that stacking and packing did, and simply attempt to do the same to the Republicans that the GOP did to us. While it would serve the fuckers right, it would also not improve our political landscape in terms of bipartisanship.
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Bipartisanship will be dead anyways as long as there is a bunch of Koch money funding the GOP. Might as well play dirty like those fuckers do.
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 05:38 PM
Bipartisanship will be dead anyways as long as there is a bunch of Koch money funding the GOP
The oligarchy is unbeatable. GAMEOVER The Dems are too feckless, leaderless, compromised by BigDonor, to out-krazy the political pricks owned by the oligarchy.
The oligarchy will have Gorsch, and mabye one or two more on SCOTUS, and 100+ more extreme rightwing Federal judges by 2020 at latest, McConnell's on it, and retain enough House seats to block progressive legislation if they can't keep passing regressive legislation.
The economy is rigged, and the political class is rigged enough to keep America in permanent decline, and inequality, and as corollary, poverty and near-poverty, will keep increasing.
daslicer
11-08-2017, 06:21 PM
The oligarchy is unbeatable. GAMEOVER The Dems are too feckless, leaderless, compromised by BigDonor, to out-krazy the political pricks owned by the oligarchy.
The oligarchy will have Gorsch, and mabye one or two more on SCOTUS, and 100+ more extreme rightwing Federal judges by 2020 at latest, McConnell's on it, and retain enough House seats to block progressive legislation if they can't keep passing regressive legislation.
The economy is rigged, and the political class is rigged enough to keep America in permanent decline, and inequality, and as corollary, poverty and near-poverty, will keep increasing.
I feel America is going to become a third world country in the next 20-30 years due to the continuation of what you described above.
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 06:24 PM
I feel America is going to become a third world country in the next 20-30 years due to the continuation of what you described above.
not 3rd world, but clearly will be at the bottom, or below, of what's called the "industrial countries"
Pavlov
11-08-2017, 06:45 PM
It's not leaving them "crippled" in 3 years tho. I can't think Liberal Chris has a handle on hyperbole, so I know that wasn't a loose statement.I guess. The acts probably won't help Russia catch up to Lebanon in per capita GDP at any rate.
boutons_deux
11-08-2017, 07:58 PM
Blue Wave, Meet Red Wall
The Democrats won by a landslide in Virginia. The Republicans’ gerrymandered map still stood strong.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/11/gerrymandering_saved_republicans_in_virginia.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/11/gerrymandering_saved_republicans_in_virginia.html)
djohn2oo8
11-08-2017, 08:16 PM
Based on what? Coming off his influence in the 2016 election Putin is stronger than ever. Maybe the single most powerful in the world considering he has nukes, can manipulate foreign elections, and rig his own elections. Trump can't get healthcare or most likely tax cuts in his own country. Honestly Putin is the most powerful person in the world probably
Our IC and allies got us. Russia will face a full embargo once traitor Don is out. Soon .
djohn2oo8
11-08-2017, 08:33 PM
928389573377515520
Chucho
11-08-2017, 10:35 PM
Our IC and allies got us. Russia will face a full embargo once traitor Don is out. Soon .
Your initial Intel tells you 20 months...then you refresh...and it's 35. Just wait...
Spurminator
11-08-2017, 11:33 PM
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Quadzilla99
11-09-2017, 12:24 AM
You are overstating Putins power.
There is a huge backfire effect in Europe as Russian meddling has become more brazen, and more details come out.
His military is obsolete, oil is low, US gas exports are killing them, his population is getting older and sicker, educated people are leaving.
As US companies push LNG exports, his ability to bully the EU diminishes.
I can provide dozens of links of economic, technological, political, and geopolitical analysis to support this.
He doesn't have the revenue to fix his military's personnel shortcomings, or build up the kind of technological base to update his military.
(edit)
Our nation has shorted our nuclear arsenal's upkeep and we are still using software loaded on 5 1/4" floppy disks, fer fuck sake.
The Russians can't even find some of their nukes. I doubt their systems are any better, and almost certainly worse off.
Yeah, and precisely none of that matters. Guys like Castro and both the father and son in NK have shown sanctions and embargos only strengthen the power of dictators if anything. Plus he can just blame the US for all of Russias problems. Basically he's got nukes and he's not afraid to fuck with anybody as 2016 proved.
Quadzilla99
11-09-2017, 12:26 AM
Our IC and allies got us. Russia will face a full embargo once traitor Don is out. Soon .
So? We embargoed Cuba for decades and Castro would still be in power if he wasn't dead.
Chucho
11-09-2017, 12:30 AM
So? We embargoed Cuba for decades and Castro would still be in power if he wasn't dead.
Exactly. It was a stupid statement. He isn't good with time estimation either.
AaronY
11-09-2017, 01:30 AM
Mueller's gonna take out Russia when he's done with Trump. After that he's gonna work with NASA and we'll finally be able to travel to other galaxies tbh
#hero
FuzzyLumpkins
11-09-2017, 03:36 AM
Democratic turnout inside the state was insane though compared to republican turnout and Dems won seats in Georgia
Which seldom happens in off year elections.
boutons_deux
11-09-2017, 08:16 AM
Democratic surge in suburbs forecasts a potentially rough 2018 for Republicans
In the northern Virginia suburbs near Washington, Democrat Ralph Northam captured 69% of the vote in winning Tuesday’s race for governor, five points better than Hillary Clinton did against Trump in the same area last November.
In Hampton Roads, the southern end of an urban crescent that has helped reshape Virginia into a reliably Democratic state in presidential elections, Northam finished seven points stronger than Clinton.
The trend extended beyond Virginia: In suburbs outside New York City and Philadelphia, for example, Democrats won local races that in some cases have belonged to Republicans for decades, even generations.
Although the offices were local, the Democratic candidates in several of those races campaigned explicitly as opponents of Trump.
The view from the suburbs is key because it points to the central problem for Republicans in 2018:
Control of the House will be decided in large part in districts similar to those that retaliated against Trump on Tuesday.
In California, for example, Democrats hope to win several Republican House seats in the suburbs of Los Angeles and Orange County.
http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-election-analysis-20171108-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter
RandomGuy
11-09-2017, 12:04 PM
I guess. The acts probably won't help Russia catch up to Lebanon in per capita GDP at any rate.
Russia is done, unless something really drastic happens, like a sudden wave of immigration that saves its faltering, failing economy.
It is barely growing, and the corruption isn't going to get better. it is as bad as boutons thinks the US is, and demographics are going to kill them, just as it is taking its toll on Japan, and China.
Germany, oddly enough, is going gang-busters in part because of a lax immigration policy paying massive dividends. The government has been running in the black. No borrowing at all.
Not really good in some ways, but that forces investment money into the private sector for returns. I really wonder how that shapes their economy.
I think the US has become too large, and too conservative to be able to adapt to change in global markets. Conservatives will fight all the changes that need to happen, i.e. higher taxes, and more infrastructure and spending on human capital, especially for scary brown people.
The cult of individualism, and worshipping of free-markets as if they are some sort of inerrant diety will erode US competiveness.
Progressives will slowly creep into power and mitigate this, but the damage of chronic underinvestment is beginning to be felt, e.g. Kansas.
RandomGuy
11-09-2017, 02:39 PM
Agreed. Not mention the influx of Asian Americans into central Virginia, which is turning places in that part that were red, blue.
7 of the past 10 Governors of Virginia have been Democrats (dating back to 1982) with both Senators also being Democrats though it didn't starting voting blue in National Elections until 2008 with Obama after 40 years.
I think conservatives look at the national elections more instead of looking within the state elections.
You might be interested to know that Texas has gotten five times more new Democratic voters than Republican ones in the last decade or so.
Texas + California + New York = RIP GOP presidential ambitions
My wife teaches in a heavily Hispanic school district. All of her students are citizens, and they are PISSED.
RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 01:22 PM
Bipartisanship will be dead anyways as long as there is a bunch of Koch money funding the GOP. Might as well play dirty like those fuckers do.
There’s No Reason To Think Republicans Will Be In Better Shape A Year From Now
The generic congressional ballot, even more than a year before a midterm, has historically been quite predictive of what will eventually occur in the following year. It was predictive in April, and it’s even more predictive now. You can see this phenomenon in the chart below. The chart shows the margin by which the presidential party leads on the generic ballot in an average of polls in October1 a year before the midterm compared with the national House margin in the midterm election. Every midterm cycle since 1938 is included, with the exception of 1942 and 1990, for which we don’t have polling at this point in the cycle.
The generic ballot polls a year from the election and the eventual House results are strongly correlated (+0.90). Importantly, past elections suggest that any big movement on the generic ballot from this point to the midterm tends to go against the president’s party.2
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/theres-no-reason-to-think-republicans-will-be-in-better-shape-a-year-from-now/
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/enten-pollapalooza-1109.png
RandomGuy
11-10-2017, 02:47 PM
Well, anybody who says that Ed Gillespie failed to turn out the base can’t read. Ed Gillespie turned out more votes than Terry McAuliffe did, who’s the sitting governor. What we saw last night was the engagement of a massive bloc of new voters by the Democrats. If you look at the turnout numbers — raw totals — of the last governor’s race versus this one, you’ll see there was something like 300,000 new voters, and they all went one way. The big story in Virginia, which I think is underreported, isn’t the governor’s race. It’s the House of Delegates [where Democrats flipped at least 15 seats].
Tara Golshan
Right, that’s what was shocking to me —
Tom Garrett
Right, every Republican that lost, and there might be an exception but I haven’t found it yet, got more votes than they did in 2013 in the last governor’s race. So they turned out more voters, [but] they didn’t turn out as many new voters as the Democrats did. I think it’s an energy thing, and you can impute that to whatever you want.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/9/16625556/gop-virginia-lawmaker-tom-garrett-resistance-wave-2018
boutons_deux
11-10-2017, 03:13 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/470676/large/maddow_copy.jpg?1510246019
https://images.dailykos.com/images/470677/large/maddow2_copy.jpg?1510246095
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:lol Republicans got the shit kicked out of them.
:lol Lost a 30+ seat advantage
Spurtacular
12-19-2017, 11:08 PM
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:lmao Fake news.
:lmao CNN making felonious conclusions.
:lmao Today's propaganda.
RandomGuy
12-20-2017, 09:24 AM
I feel America is going to become a third world country in the next 20-30 years due to the continuation of what you described above.
Given how badly Republicans do when allowed to set wish-based policy solutions, and look the other way at the stink of corruption in the executive branch as long as it is one of their guys, I can't argue.
I have begun to seriously look into immigrating, but have a hard time convincing my wife to move closer to the arctic circle, i.e. Canada or Denmark.
RandomGuy
12-20-2017, 09:25 AM
[smiley][derision]
[smiley][derision]
[smiley][derision]
[yawn]
boutons_deux
12-20-2017, 09:50 AM
Northram ran on expanding Medicaid for 400K people, wins, says Medicaid too expensive
RandomGuy
12-20-2017, 10:15 AM
943217132871045120
:lol Republicans got the shit kicked out of them.
:lol Lost a 30+ seat advantage
It is shaping up to be a wave election. GOP will lose seats next year across the board, and 2020 will be worse.
The party of rich white guys, by rich white guys, and for rich white guys will be an easy thing to run against for Democrats.
boutons_deux
12-20-2017, 10:38 AM
It is shaping up to be a wave election. GOP will lose seats next year across the board, and 2020 will be worse.
The party of rich white guys, by rich white guys, and for rich white guys will be an easy thing to run against for Democrats.
The oligarchy doesn't, and won't care, if their Repug whores get blitzed in the next couple elections ...
(they won't get blitzed, because of partisan gerrymandering (5-4 approved by SCOTUS as "settled law" in next year), voter suppression of Ms, oligarchy's C-U $Bs, and voter apathy, esp among the "Disposables" (the poor) ),
... because rigging of the economy and govt has ratcheted dramatically in favor of the oligarchy.
It's really GAMEOVER, declining America of the lower 4 quintiles and the environment is fucked and unfuckable.
The oligarchy's whores have signalled that Social Security will renamed (Federal Benefit Payment) and cut, Medicaid will be converted to block grants and privatized with silly little vouchers to buy for-profit insurance, and Medicare will be further privatized.
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