Game Thread: Spurs vs. Bucks -- Fri. (11/10) - 8:00/C (4:00am Riga Time)

[RD2191]

Green :lmao

[Nathan89]

He’s going to get paid by somebody.

And we'll be stuck with a useless 6ft sg :bang

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

That's 3 air balls in the past few minutes from Green, Gay, and Mills smhhh

[Robz4000]

Fucking hell

[bklynspursfan]

9-28 fro 3. Sheesh...

[BatManu20]

Stupid stupid stupid

[duncan2k5]

And this is who pop chooses to start and stunt Murray's growth... Brilliant

[Play Boban]

I'm pretty disgusted by this team tbh. So much scrubness. So little desire.

[BatManu20]

That's prob game.

[$pursDynasty]

Not this Middleton

[duncan2k5]

Short fat slow pg that can't play defense, can't penetrate, can't shoot... Useless!!

[raybies]

it's gonna be tough to overcome... need some first class offensive and defensive execution.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

until proven otherwise mills is not clutch
If he cannot even play clutch in the regular season anymore, then kiss the playoffs goodbye (as always).

[DAF86]

Horrible offense. Those last two threes by Patty and Green are the result of lack of ideas. Fuck this game, so frustrating.

[Robz4000]

Called this loss, but in the end the Spurs blew this game more than the Bucks won it. Spurs don't react well to long, athletic teams.

[Play Boban]

Kyle shitting on his haters on this forum ...
:lmao

[bklynspursfan]

And this is who pop chooses to start and stunt Murray's growth... Brilliant

Murray is stunting his own growth at this point. If he was a shooter, he'd likely be in there

[ElNono]

At least let Manu score two more IMO

[NASpurs]

Short fat slow pg that can't play defense, can't penetrate, can't shoot... Useless!!

Don't worry, there's another PG with those same adjectives coming back in December.

[daslicer]

And this is who pop chooses to start and stunt Murray's growth... Brilliant

It's not even about stunting Murray's growth. As bad as Mills has been the problem is Murray still has a worse jump shot. Murray also commits stupid turnovers.

[BatManu20]

At least let Manu score two more IMO


:lol

[RD2191]

WTF was that :lmao

[Play Boban]

So Poop benched Manu? Moron. Dude just doesn't want him getting his 20 smh.

[ElNono]

Unfortunately with Kawhi out, Spurs can’t afford shitty games from Rudy tbh

[bklynspursfan]

Terrible decision by Anderson who's played pretty well overall

[TheRemix]

Still not worried. We're missing our god kawhi

[DAF86]

Hahahahahaha, the fuck was suppossed to be that play?

[$pursDynasty]

Spurs can't survive against a decent team with an abysmal game from Rudy, with MVParker and the Kingslayer out.

[BatManu20]

Lmao wtf was that. THAT is your play out of a timeout Pop..??

[weeks]

we struggle with the bucks anyway

[raybies]

just not our game tonight. shot ourselves in the foot but we also couldn't hit a shot

[RD2191]

Was that Kyle shitting on us haters?

[Play Boban]

Don't worry, there's another PG with those same adjectives coming back in December.
Yeah, but at lest he's unstoppable offensively when going at teammates' wives.

[FkLA]

Fucking Fatty. Manu cuts it down to 2, Spurs get a stop, and this motherfucker comes down the floor and takes a terrible 3.

[NASpurs]

Yeah, but at lest he's unstoppable offensively when going at teammates' wives.

His penetration game is on point when he sees a clearing to the hole.

[LittleCriminal]

Oh now pop takes that scrub Anderson out...geez

[Nathan89]

Patty "death pill" Mills

[SAGirl]

Rudy strugggled in this game and the bucks length at the rim was problematic

[RD2191]

Terrible shit from gay tonight

[duncan2k5]

That's what Pop drew up? A fathead iso?? �� �� ��

[DAF86]

Why are they still attempting 2's? :lol

[Play Boban]

His penetration game is on point when he sees a clearing to the hole.
:lmao

[itzsoweezee]

These guys aren't even going to score 90. Goddamn Patty is beyond trash this season. That hole at point guard is just gaping. No good options between Murray, Patty, and Tony. None of those guys deserve to start in the NBA.

[TheRemix]

We'll be aight boys

[spurspokesman]

With over 18 To's it's hard to expect a W

[dabom]

Thank God for Patty or we lose by 30. :tu

[Budkin]

We need Kawhi and Tony badly

[RD2191]

How long before LMA asks for a trade?

[SAGirl]

Was that Kyle shitting on us haters?
That play didn’t develop how it was supposed to. He has to take a very tough shot with time winding down.

[Chinook]

Why are they still attempting 2's? :lol

Have you seen them from three recently?

[itzsoweezee]

We need Kawhi and Tony badly

Definitely need one of those two.

[SpurPadre]

Never mind Patty, had Gay shown up, we win this game.

[raybies]

they didn't hold us to nothing we missed a ton of open shots

[Darius Bieber]

This team is trash

[siraulo23]

This is def Gays worst game as a spur so far

[SAGirl]

Turnovers really killed them tbh. Can’t give those to the bucks they are a nightmare in transition

[TheRemix]

Just missed open shots, gay played like shit, 18 TOs. Dats an L

[BatManu20]

Thanks for showing up Manu. Everyone else, return your paychecks.

[weeks]

How long before LMA asks for a trade?
again you mean?

[raybies]

Never mind Patty, had Gay shown up, we win this game.
Yup pretty much.

[duncan2k5]

Murray is stunting his own growth at this point. If he was a shooter, he'd likely be in there

Like Parker? Lol... Parker started as a rookie and couldn't shoot for ten years... He doesn't even have a money jumpshot right now for goodness sakes... U guys put too much stock in shooting... Mills can hit the occasional jumper, so forget that he can't do shit else, right?

[Nathan89]

Thank God for Patty or we lose by 30. :tu

So Mills defense held them to 94pts or were we going to score in the 50s?:lol

[LittleCriminal]

Lol
Anderson pump fakes a three, tries to shoot,realizes he's gonna get swatted,throws a pass in the air....lol scrub is shit.

[DAF86]

I prefer to lose by blowouts than gifting games like this, tbh.

[ECOV]

This team is trash
then dont watch

[BatManu20]

This is def Gays worst game as a spur so far

Easily. Missed a ton of makable shots, many within 5 feet of the basket. Just sucked tonight.

[SAGirl]

they didn't hold us to nothing we missed a ton of open shots
Rudy had a very tough game missed good looks

[FkLA]

Fatty Mills is a big fucking problem.

[NASpurs]

How long before LMA asks for a trade?

Hopefully soon. Nothing about this guy convinces me even moreso when Kawhi Jordan comes back.

[spurspokesman]

Our PG spot is suspect. Parker is shot, mills is too small, and Murray is green at the moment.

[SpurPadre]

How long before LMA asks for a trade?

After TP fucks his girl.

[Seventyniner]

Why are they still attempting 2's? :lol

Because there are no 1's?

[picnroll]

How many more years do we have to watch Mills?

[SAGirl]

This is def Gays worst game as a spur so far
Agreed

[raybies]

wondering why Patty took so much heat tonight.... anyone look at Danny's stat line? We just played bad as a whole. Not our game. On to the next one. We got the Bulls.

[duncan2k5]

These guys aren't even going to score 90. Goddamn Patty is beyond trash this season. That hole at point guard is just gaping. No good options between Murray, Patty, and Tony. None of those guys deserve to start in the NBA.

Murray does... We know Patty's ceiling... We don't know Murray's... Or should we get rid of him and have him blossom with a coach that understands player development? We have done that way too many times already

[Snaq O'Meal]

50Mills leads all Spurs in minutes played and shot attempts. Thanks Pop!

[spurspokesman]

When Leonard returns and Gay rounds into form it'll be a nice thing to watch

[BillMc]

Nice game by Kyle in a loss. Worst game by Rudy as a Spur.

[LittleCriminal]

Good D by the Bucks.
Pop had some shit rotations late in the game (Anderson)
Gay had a off night.
Can't wait till Leonard gets back to send that shit scrub back to the bench.

[Chinook]

This also could have been worse. Pop fucked everything up by panicking and subbing everyone out. The Spurs had a big advantage when they got to play big, but Pop took that away to bring in a struggling Gay. Then he benched Forbes twice despite Bryn being the only one shooting well. It was just a terrible game from him against a team that a good coach should have been able to beat.

Green was terrible enough on O that his slightly positive D got drowned out. Gay got too many of Pau's minutes. LMA stopped getting the ball down the stretch. Refs gave MKE multiple goaltends and missed some travels. That the Spurs should have won against a team with the (unfortunate) MVP front-runner while still missing their guys is a sign they're doing all right. But Gay's inconsistency is a sour note in what has been a great year so far.

Also, Kyle played well.

[BillMc]

One of those days. Lace 'em up tomorrow. Manu will rest. Wonder if anyone else will

[SAGirl]

Nice game by Kyle in a loss. Worst game by Rudy as a Spur.
:toast On to the next one. Team will bounce back.

[dabom]

wondering why Patty took so much heat tonight.... anyone look at Danny's stat line? We just played bad as a whole. Not our game. On to the next one. We got the Bulls.

It's this years new "Narrative". :lmao

They eating that shit for breakfast lunch dinner and midnight snacks. :lmao

[Nathan89]

Should've gave Simmons a bigger role and told Mills to get lost tbh

[SpurPadre]

Can we all agree that even when Kawhi, TP, Joffrey return, it's still not a Championship team that needs a trade by the deadline?

[itzsoweezee]

Spurs played well when gasol and Aldridge we're on the floor together. The small lineup with gay at the 4 got destroyed. Sacrificed defense for shitty offense

[hater]

Hamburger patty looked like a meatball out there

[BillMc]

Pau was nearly on pace for a triple double in the first half then got little time in the second. Weird. Must have been his d, I guess...

[spurspokesman]

Damn we looked small out there against the bucks. They are all arms and legs

[DAF86]

Can we all agree that even when Kawhi, TP, Joffrey return, it's still not a Championship team that needs a trade by the deadline?

It's not a championship team only 'cause the Warriors exist.

[Chinook]

Can we all agree that even when Kawhi, TP, Joffrey return, it's still not a Championship team that needs a trade by the deadline?

No. A close loss to MKE doesn't mean shit. Their rotation is solid with everyone healthy. The projected 4-9 haven't been the problem this year. Neither has LMA as the 2.

[Ice009]

Patty Mills, LMA, Pau Gasol (Gasol didn't play much in the second half, I'd guess due to his defense), and to a certain extent, Danny Green, just fucking terrible with the game on the line. You don't pay inconsistent players that type of money if you're trying to win Championships.

How many fucking times did they try getting the ball to Aldridge in the 4th and either not being able to get it to him, or Aldridge not being able to do anything with it.

Rudy also picked the wrong night to be the brick laying Rudy Gay.

Bryn Forbes, why can't the Spurs set some screens to get him some open shots? He's the best shooter on the team.

[wingster]

Can we all agree that even when Kawhi, TP, Joffrey return, it's still not a Championship team that needs a trade by the deadline?
No.

[Chinook]

Pau was nearly on pace for a triple double in the first half then got little time in the second. Weird. Must have been his d, I guess...

Pop didn't play him his usual stint with LMA for ... some reason. I can't actually figure that out, because Pau was doing okay. He had even just blocked Giannis at the rim to force the jump ball (the refs had Kyle in there for some reason). Not only was that swap what lost the game, but I worry that shit like that can get Pau to crawl back into his passive hole.

[weeks]

Can we all agree that even when Kawhi, TP, Joffrey return, it's still not a Championship team that needs a trade by the deadline?
wait till kawhi returns before you start agreeing on shit

[dabom]

Patty Mills, LMA, Pau Gasol, and to a certain extent, Danny Green, just fucking terrible with the game on the line. You don't pay inconsistent players that type of money if you're trying to win Championships.

How many fucking times did they try getting the ball to Aldridge in the 4th and either not being able to get it to him, or Aldridge not being able to do anything with it.

Rudy also picked the wrong night to be the brick laying Rudy Gay.

Bryn Forbes, why can't the Spurs set some screens to get him some open shots? He's the best shooter on the team.

They're role players dumbass. LMA is the only one getting paid and he is producing. We are missing Kawhi you dumb fuck. :lmao

[Ice009]

Murray does... We know Patty's ceiling... We don't know Murray's... Or should we get rid of him and have him blossom with a coach that understands player development? We have done that way too many times already

Who have the Spurs let go that's turned into a star? I can't think of too many players.

[SpurPadre]

No. A close loss to MKE doesn't mean shit. Their rotation is solid with everyone healthy. The projected 4-9 haven't been the problem this year. Neither has LMA as the 2.

I'm not basing it off tonight, I'm basing it off the pg play.

[Ice009]

They're role players dumbass. LMA is the only one getting paid and he is producing. We are missing Kawhi you dumb fuck. :lmao

Mate, don't reply to me, cause I'll belt the fucking shit out of you. I don't give a fuck about your opinion.


Two of those roles players are overpaid, and the other one could be.

I would not have given LMA and extension.

[SpurPadre]

wait till kawhi returns before you start agreeing on shit

It's just alot of pressure on Kawhi while other superstars have more support around them.

[SAGirl]

I hadn’t realized Kyle had his second double double of the season. Too bad team couldn’t pull this one out.

[Capt Bringdown]

Rudy, "I fade against good teams" Gay.

Oh, and Patty Mills: Fuck you

[venitian navigator]

Its just a shame to waste such a good game from Manu...he's really the one that makes you look at the difference between a player and a real competitor...

[dabom]

Mate, don't reply to me, cause I'll belt the fucking shit out of you. I don't give a fuck about your opinion.


Two of those roles players are overpaid, and the other one could be.

I would not have given LMA and extension.

You a pussy bitch made faggot. Stay in yo lane cuck. :lmao

[BillMc]

Pop didn't play him his usual stint with LMA for ... some reason. I can't actually figure that out, because Pau was doing okay. He had even just blocked Giannis at the rim to force the jump ball (the refs had Kyle in there for some reason). Not only was that swap what lost the game, but I worry that shit like that can get Pau to crawl back into his passive hole.

My theory at the time was despite Pau's age and because of Joff's injury he was going to play Gasol tomorrow and wanted to limit his minutes tonight. Now, I don't think that was the case. He wanted to try out the small ball with Rudy which, as you say, cost us the game. Rudy's been stellar so you can't blame Pop for experimenting. I guess.

[SAGirl]

Pau was nearly on pace for a triple double in the first half then got little time in the second. Weird. Must have been his d, I guess...
It had to be transition D but considering how much Rudy struggled in this one...

[raybies]

Pau was nearly on pace for a triple double in the first half then got little time in the second. Weird. Must have been his d, I guess...
He came into the second half with some lazy passes that set the tone.

Let me spin this... Let's say Pop by design wants us to continue to come out strong after the half and hit them with an uppercut like the last couple games. Well Pau and Danny came in and threw the ball away to start. It set a bad tone for the entire second half. Starts of halves and more less quarters is like waking up in the day and eating breakfast. If you don't eat breakfast your not properly nourished for the day so to speak. So Pop felt he needed to teach a lesson and let the players know it is unacceptable. Very understandable from disciplinarian Pop. The players didn't come in with the right focus and he wanted to nip it in the bud. I can virtually guarantee this doesn't happen next game or from now on and by that I mean bringing the right level of focus to start.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Rudy, "I fade against good teams" Gay.

Oh, and Patty Mills: Fuck you

Gay has shitted on Fake Greek and the Bucks many times before. He's just still a step slow right now. We'll see how he fares later in the season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs win with length and execution. Bucks have more of the first and Spurs didn't bring the latter. There were some positives though, good game.

[weeks]

It's just alot of pressure on Kawhi while other superstars have more support around them.
as far as im concerned golden state is still unfinished business
i still believe in this team's potential

[Ice009]

You a pussy bitch made faggot. Stay in yo lane cuck. :lmao

I don't give a fuck what you think. You're a fucking retard.

[BillMc]

I hadn’t realized Kyle had his second double double of the season. Too bad team couldn’t pull this one out.

And he did it while talking some serious minutes guarding TGF :toast

[Chinook]

I'm not basing it off tonight, I'm basing it off the pg play.

I can't think of something the team needs to do less than spend anything more on a PG. Mills was fine and will be more fine in a safe bench role with Manu and Kyle to feed him and Gay to take pressure off him. We simply have no idea how Tony's going to be, but he should be okay if he stays healthy. Given what it took to get Bledsoe, the team could have considered pulling the trigger, but I don't think we've seen the worst of him in MKE yet.

I'd like to see Bryn get some minutes, however.

[Ice009]

I don't get why Bryn kept getting benched, he's a better shooter than anyone else on the team. Would it be that hard to try and get him some looks.

[raybies]

I can't think of something the team needs to do less than spend anything more on a PG. Mills was fine and will be more fine in a safe bench role with Manu and Kyle to feed him and Gay to take pressure off him. We simply have no idea how Tony's going to be, but he should be okay if he stays healthy. Given what it took to get Bledsoe, the team could have considered pulling the trigger, but I don't think we've seen the worst of him in MKE yet.

I'd like to see Bryn get some minutes, however.


Felt the same. But pop has him in the friendzone lol he's strictly using him a spark off the bench.

[venitian navigator]

I dont understand why pop didn't play Bertans in this game...imho it was perfet for him and his 3 point shot, with slow bigs like Henson and Maker...

[Chinook]

Felt the same. But pop has him in the friendzone lol he's strictly using him a spark off the bench.

Pop lost this game despite everything. Not giving Bryn much of a chance wasn't the worst thing he did, but it certainly didn't help.

[SAGirl]

He came into the second half with some lazy passes that set the tone.

Let me spin this... Let's say Pop by design wants us to continue to come out strong after the half and hit them with an uppercut like the last couple games. Well Pau and Danny came in and threw the ball away to start. It set a bad tone for the entire second half. Starts of halves and more less quarters is like waking up in the day and eating breakfast. If you don't eat breakfast your not properly nourished for the day so to speak. So Pop felt he needed to teach a lesson and let the players know it is unacceptable. Very understandable from disciplinarian Pop. The players didn't come in with the right focus and he wanted to nip it in the bud. I can virtually guarantee this doesn't happen next game or from now on and by that I mean bringing the right level of focus to start.
Danny struggled a whole lot against their length and athleticism and those TO were murder.

[raybies]

Pop lost this game despite everything. Not giving Bryn much of a chance wasn't the worst thing he did, but it certainly didn't help.
Maybe your right but I think what he did was best for the longterm. His coaching in the second half was more longterm

[Nathan89]

Rudy, "I fade against good teams" Gay.

Oh, and Patty Mills: Fuck you

If the Bucks are a good team then has performed against good teams.

[CGD]

This bucks team is going to be fun to watch. I like their peices. Still a shooter away but they’re heading in right direction.

Think they’ll be displacing my local Wiz as my #2 team.

[SAGirl]

I dont understand why pop didn't play Bertans in this game...imho it was perfet for him and his 3 point shot, with slow bigs like Henson and Maker...
That’s a whole area that we have speculated about in general not just this game.

[Chinook]

Danny struggled a whole lot against their length and athleticism and those TO were murder.

He went back to his predictable pass-backs once he gets into the paint. Dude worked on finishing so he could just shoot those shots instead of hanging in the air, but he forgot about that tonight for some reason. Green having games like this isn't a horrible thing, though. The more times he bounces back from outings were DG 2.0 fails, the more stable that part of his game becomes. It'll feel less like he's playing over his head if he can overcome adversity.

[raybies]

That’s a whole area that we have speculated about in general not just this game.
he really hasn't warranted any extra playing time. It's not like he's making his shots in garbage time either. Than factor in his lack luster defense and rebounding... I think Pop has Forbes as that player.

[raybies]

are posts doubled or something? I've been burning em out it seems.

[Chinook]

Maybe your right but I think what he did was best for the longterm. His coaching in the second half was more longterm

I can't ride with you there. One of the things about "having five guys out there who know how to play" is that they aren't nearly as dirigible as other lineups would be. Their game will be the gestalt of their reactions to the situation. There isn't really a place for Pop to come in and make adjustments, because it disrupts the superconsiousness that he's trying to instill. That's a big reason why Pop usually seems inept in-game compared to the rest of his job.

[raybies]

I can't ride with you there. One of the things about "having five guys out there who know how to play" is that they aren't nearly as dirigible as other lineups would be. Their game will be the gestalt of their reactions to the situation. There isn't really a place for Pop to come in and make adjustments, because it disrupts the superconsiousness that he's trying to instill. That's a big reason why Pop usually seems inept in-game compared to the rest of his job.
I think your overthinking it. The players made mistakes with what I assume was an emphasis to start the half strong and he took them out. Players have pride. If they are character guys they are going to care and they sure as hell won't want to be pulled so early again. They didn't bring the right focus and Pop felt it was unacceptable. Then he carried it on through the half to be fair. Nothing wrong with that.

Edit: if the result is a more disciplined team than the loss was worth it. Like Manu said it's not about wins and losses but getting better every game.

[SAGirl]

This bucks team is going to be fun to watch. I like their peices. Still a shooter away but they’re heading in right direction.

Think they’ll be displacing my local Wiz as my #2 team.
I still like the Wizards better personally

[raybies]

I still like the Wizards better personally
They talk too much ish for my liking. They are still childish. My team in the east is Detroit but Milwaukee is warming on me. Bledsoe is gonna be a difference maker in my estimation.

[Chinook]

I think your overthinking it. The players made mistakes with what I assume was an emphasis to start the half strong and he took them out. Players have pride. If they are character guys they are going to care and they sure as hell won't want to be pulled so early again. They didn't bring the right focus and Pop felt it was unacceptable. Then he carried it on through the half to be fair. Nothing wrong with that.

Edit: if the result is a more disciplined team than the loss was worth it. Like Manu said it's not about wins and losses but getting better every game.

I don't think that will be the result. These are all guys who are who they are. Benching Pau isn't going to make Gasol do anything differently. Green may not drive if he's benched, but that's obviously a terrible situation. Pop does very little actually coaching during games at this point, which has been something he's been trying to get back to since the BG was a thing. It's shown up in the form of flat offense and ineffective adjustments. If you take a guy out, go over some stuff with them and put them back in, that's one thing. If you take them out, say nothing, and then look even worse with who you put it, I doubt any sort of "pride response" will kick in. It'd just make me lose confidence in Pop. Most guys on the team are experienced enough to where they'll either tune Pop out or would have improved without the benching. Less-experienced guys are a mixed bag with some like Simmons and Dedmon not taking to it particularly well.

[SAGirl]

They talk too much ish for my liking. They are still childish. My team in the east is Detroit but Milwaukee is warming on me. Bledsoe is gonna be a difference maker in my estimation.
Yes Bledsoe was definitely noticeable. Sucks to see PGs dealt and immediately impact (Irving, Bledsoe) and Spurs stand pat with Patty and Tony. I’ll be with my Spurs no matter what bt they have failed to address that problem. I imagine point Kawhi was going to be the man this season. I suppose we can’t judge the team without him.

[raybies]

I don't think that will be the result. These are all guys who are who they are. Benching Pau isn't going to make Gasol do anything differently. Green may not drive if he's benched, but that's obviously a terrible situation. Pop does very little actually coaching during games at this point, which has been something he's been trying to get back to since the BG was a thing. It's shown up in the form of flat offense and ineffective adjustments. If you take a guy out, go over some stuff with them and put them back in, that's one thing. If you take them out, say nothing, and then look even worse with who you put it, I doubt any sort of "pride response" will kick in. It'd just make me lose confidence in Pop. Most guys on the team are experienced enough to where they'll either tune Pop out or would have improved without the benching. Less-experienced guys are a mixed bag with some like Simmons and Dedmon not taking to it particularly well.
See that'd be true if he did it every game but he doesn't. He usually has much longer leashes for the casuals and less leashes for the youngins. Tonight it was just at the start of the half that he pulled Gasol and Green and made an example. It doesn't matter if we lost at that point. He wasn't trying to pull a trick out of his hat; he was teaching a lesson. If he did this every game you'd be right. We've watched the Spurs long enough to know he doesn't do this every game...

[raybies]

meanwhile Portland loses to Brooklyn

[SAGirl]

I don't think that will be the result. These are all guys who are who they are. Benching Pau isn't going to make Gasol do anything differently. Green may not drive if he's benched, but that's obviously a terrible situation. Pop does very little actually coaching during games at this point, which has been something he's been trying to get back to since the BG was a thing. It's shown up in the form of flat offense and ineffective adjustments. If you take a guy out, go over some stuff with them and put them back in, that's one thing. If you take them out, say nothing, and then look even worse with who you put it, I doubt any sort of "pride response" will kick in. It'd just make me lose confidence in Pop. Most guys on the team are experienced enough to where they'll either tune Pop out or would have improved without the benching. Less-experienced guys are a mixed bag with some like Simmons and Dedmon not taking to it particularly well.
Simmons specifically said that he couldn’t play well with the constant benching and he also said in a different context that the weak can’t play for Pop.

However I don’t blame this so much on Pop. The guys at the end made a run and got the game close after the team got behind, so I don’t blame Pops adjustments though. Rudy didn’t show up. Patty forced some jumpshots that were contested. Spurs struggled to get the ball to Lamarcus. Kyle had to force up a bad shot. Bucks were blocking shots and were difficult to deal with on defense. Pop could have used Pau a little bit more at the end imo.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Simmons specifically said that he couldn’t play well with the constant benching and he also said in a different context that the weak can’t play for Pop.

However I don’t blame this so much on Pop. The guys at the end made a run and got the game close after the team got behind, so I don’t blame Pops adjustments though. Rudy didn’t show up. Patty forced some jumpshots that were contested. Spurs struggled to get the ball to Lamarcus. Kyle had to force up a bad shot. Bucks were blocking shots and were difficult to deal with on defense. Pop could have used Pau a little bit more at the end imo.

I think the Spurs were way way too small in the latter half of the fourth.
Milwaukee’s length was killing our small ball.

[raybies]

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Kyle earning Pop's trust

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[sasaint]

Just got back from the game. We needed a difference-maker to pull this one out. With Rudy not coming through, we were pretty much sunk. That start to the second half was truly miserable. This team may have set a record for turnovers at this point in the season. Pop was chewing some serious butt at almost every timeout. I was sure hoping that Bryn and BP3 would seize the opportunities they had, but... alas.

Kyle was very good all night. I hated seeing him get stuffed on his poor, final shot. Bad decision to cap the night. One thing stands out: Kyle's biggest handicap is not his lack of speed, but his lack of hops. He can maneuver into the low post very well, but without the ability to get off the floor, he looks to pass when he meets much resistance. Also, he needs to develop a good jump stop. On his drives, he needs to put himself in a position to really gather and go up.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWarSOlZqZo

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psC_tvlFt7Q

[BillMc]

Just got back from the game. We needed a difference-maker to pull this one out. With Rudy not coming through, we were pretty much sunk. That start to the second half was truly miserable. This team may have set a record for turnovers at this point in the season. Pop was chewing some serious butt at almost every timeout. I was sure hoping that Bryn and BP3 would seize the opportunities they had, but... alas.

Kyle was very good all night. I hated seeing him get stuffed on his poor, final shot. Bad decision to cap the night. One thing stands out: Kyle's biggest handicap is not his lack of speed, but his lack of hops. He can maneuver into the low post very well, but without the ability to get off the floor, he looks to pass when he meets much resistance. Also, he needs to develop a good jump stop. On his drives, he needs to put himself in a position to really gather and go up.

Thanks for the report.:toast

[daslicer]

Yes Bledsoe was definitely noticeable. Sucks to see PGs dealt and immediately impact (Irving, Bledsoe) and Spurs stand pat with Patty and Tony. I’ll be with my Spurs no matter what bt they have failed to address that problem. I imagine point Kawhi was going to be the man this season. I suppose we can’t judge the team without him.

You have to give something up of significant value to get Irving or Bledsoe. Outside of Kawhi and LMA the spurs don't have any assets that could get those type of players.

[SAGirl]

Just got back from the game. We needed a difference-maker to pull this one out. With Rudy not coming through, we were pretty much sunk. That start to the second half was truly miserable. This team may have set a record for turnovers at this point in the season. Pop was chewing some serious butt at almost every timeout. I was sure hoping that Bryn and BP3 would seize the opportunities they had, but... alas.

Kyle was very good all night. I hated seeing him get stuffed on his poor, final shot. Bad decision to cap the night. One thing stands out: Kyle's biggest handicap is not his lack of speed, but his lack of hops. He can maneuver into the low post very well, but without the ability to get off the floor, he looks to pass when he meets much resistance. Also, he needs to develop a good jump stop. On his drives, he needs to put himself in a position to really gather and go up.
Thanks for the review friend. Dijon missed this opportunity as well. I thought Bryn could have played a little bit more but Manu was giving good minutes in the 2nd half and it’s obvious Pop doesn’t trust Bryn to be the PG and take some of Mills minutes.

[sasaint]

Thanks for the review friend. Dijon missed this opportunity as well. I thought Bryn could have played a little bit more but Manu was giving good minutes in the 2nd half and it’s obvious Pop doesn’t trust Bryn to be the PG and take some of Mills minutes.

I haven't bothered to look at the boxscore to know which of our three young guys was better or worse. You are absolutely right; all three missed a very good opportunity to step up.

[coachmac87]

I don't think that will be the result. These are all guys who are who they are. Benching Pau isn't going to make Gasol do anything differently. Green may not drive if he's benched, but that's obviously a terrible situation. Pop does very little actually coaching during games at this point, which has been something he's been trying to get back to since the BG was a thing. It's shown up in the form of flat offense and ineffective adjustments. If you take a guy out, go over some stuff with them and put them back in, that's one thing. If you take them out, say nothing, and then look even worse with who you put it, I doubt any sort of "pride response" will kick in. It'd just make me lose confidence in Pop. Most guys on the team are experienced enough to where they'll either tune Pop out or would have improved without the benching. Less-experienced guys are a mixed bag with some like Simmons and Dedmon not taking to it particularly well.



You'd have a point if they didn't play like shit....

Pop has ALWAYS been like this..so this shouldn't be no surprised. And tbh it's this type of coaching that'll get the best out of young players that truly want to be great..

[Chinook]

You'd have a point if they didn't play like shit....

Pop has ALWAYS been like this..so this shouldn't be no surprised. And tbh it's this type of coaching that'll get the best out of young players that truly want to be great..

They had a rough patch, which Pop solidified into a loss by taking out Pau and putting in Gay. Green especially played like shit, but Pop was just trying to push buttons to see what worked, then the team was down like three to five points. Eventually they went down by double-digits and then he decided to stop fucking things up. There was no adjustment made, just blind subs. That won't get the best out of any young player, especially given that vets were benched with only Forbes truly getting the hook and for dubious reasons at that.

[coachmac87]

They had a rough patch, which Pop solidified into a loss by taking out Pau and putting in Gay. Green especially played like shit, but Pop was just trying to push buttons to see what worked, then the team was down like three to five points. Eventually they went down by double-digits and then he decided to stop fucking things up. There was no adjustment made, just blind subs. That won't get the best out of any young player, especially given that vets were benched with only Forbes truly getting the hook and for dubious reasons at that.


Pop did the best he could imo...Spurs just don't match up with the Bucks without Kawhi and for obvious reasons. I gotta give Pop credit tho so far this year. He's really coaching his ass off and getting the best out of a team without a Top 5 player.

[Kawhi Leonard]

Murray is trending up, 8 minutes and 51 seconds of play. :domokun

[r0drig0lac]

they didn't hold us to nothing we missed a ton of open shots

[Spurtacular]

Just watching the game now; end of third; the one junior ref over ruling the other junior ref on a late call? What kind of bull shit is that? The LMA lil push was way before the moving screen, too. And it was not going to be called otherwise. TOTAL BULL SHIT.

[Spurtacular]

3rq buzzer beater: GINOBILI!!!!!!!!!!!

[tbdog]

Spurs had a trash third and it still took some dreadful calls. 7 and 5 without our best player and 2 rotational players. It's going fine.

[Spurtacular]

JVG: "A rare drive by Snell. I can see why." :lmao

[venitian navigator]

we lost this game 'cause we were sloppy and soft while they were reactive...we took no contested balls and lost a lot of rebounds. No people except Manu Lma and Mills ready to dive for the ball. The energy level for 100 per cent in bucks favor. What is weird is that we had a three days rest...

[Spurtacular]

Refs coddling Greek Geek. BS call on Rudy at 3:11 in 4th.

[Spurtacular]

2:54 Bucks player hitting it out of LMA's hands; Bucks ball. More bull shit.

[Spurtacular]

Good "wipe away" by Manu.

[Spurtacular]

Why the fuck is Mills taking crazy threes three feet behind the three point line early in the shot clock with under two minutes left in a two-point game?

[Spurtacular]

Pop calling an ISO center drive play for Anderson down six with under a minute left? Really? What the fuck is that shit?

[Chinook]

Pop did the best he could imo...Spurs just don't match up with the Bucks without Kawhi and for obvious reasons. I gotta give Pop credit tho so far this year. He's really coaching his ass off and getting the best out of a team without a Top 5 player.

The Spurs match up well enough with MKE, length-wise. Mills and Bledsoe were a relative wash, as were Green and Snell and Kyle and Middleton. The latter two probably favored SA. Then LMA was kicking ass when he got to match up against Giannis, and Henson wasn't doing shit against either Pau or LMA when he wasn't allowed to goaltend. People have been keen to bow to Milwaukee's length, but it was only an issue when Pop went small. Of course, he was never going to be able to stay big for 48 minutes, but Pau was underplayed in this game. He could have easily closed with them both in down two, but he instead wanted to stick with Mills chucking, Green turning it over and Gay looking ineffective on both ends.

[John B]

This game was without a closer Kawhi to finish the game. That’s all and too many turnovers. I like Kyle aggressiveness and should help when everybody’s back. Mills will be back to backup putting buckets on spurts when TP gets back. It was a disappointing loss but Spurs were without 3 good players. And Bucks played aggressive. My hat off to Kidd pushing when they smelled blood

[MaNu4Tres]

Pop did the best he could imo...Spurs just don't match up with the Bucks without Kawhi and for obvious reasons. I gotta give Pop credit tho so far this year. He's really coaching his ass off and getting the best out of a team without a Top 5 player.

Pop can do better than giving Patty getting 37 minutes. Paul only got 9 minutes, as did Murray.

Would have loved to see a Manu, Paul, Green, Kyle, LA lineup. Or a Paul, Forbes, Green, Kyle , LA lineup.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Kyle Anderson isolation play in the clutch lololololololol might as well pull a TPark and chop your dick off

[SAGirl]

wondering why Patty took so much heat tonight.... anyone look at Danny's stat line? We just played bad as a whole. Not our game. On to the next one. We got the Bulls.
I think the Patty criticism is due to him chucking contested jumpers to close out that game, instead of running the offense and pretty much ignored Lamarcus down the stretch. Team looking discombobulated was very much on him at the end as he was the PG. Manu said it, they forgot to involve Lamarcus to close out the game, that’s at least 50% on Mills.

[raybies]

I think the Patty criticism is due to him chucking contested jumpers to close out that game, instead of running the offense and pretty much ignored Lamarcus down the stretch. Team looking discombobulated was very much on him at the end as he was the PG. Manu said it, they forgot to involve Lamarcus to close out the game, that’s at least 50% on Mills.
Patty was taking heat every time he missed shot. Can't defend the end of game though. Pop mentioned about that. Thing about Mills though, he's gonna look for that. He's more of a shooting guard than a point. Missed Parker for his better PG play and Leonard with his closing skills. If you get the switch of Gianiss onto LMA which is problematic, they don't have a suitable defender for Leonard or even Gay if in. But Gay had a rough night.

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The Spurs match up well enough with MKE, length-wise. People have been keen to bow to Milwaukee's length.

Yeah, have repeatedly seen Spurs and people on this board seemingly equate lack of traditional bigs and athleticism with length. Spurs probably have the most long armed rotation players in the league . . .

Henson: 7'5''
Antetokounmpo and Maker: 7'3''
Parker and Snell: 6'11.5''
Middleton: 6'10.75''
Brogdon: 6'10.5''
Bledsoe: 6'7.5''

Aldridge: 7'4.75''
Gasol: 7'4''
Gay and Leonard: 7'3''
Anderson: 7'2.75''
Paul: 6'10.25''
Green: 6'10''
Murray: 6'9.5''

[Robz4000]

Yeah, have repeatedly seen Spurs and people on this board seemingly equate lack of traditional bigs and athleticism with length. Spurs probably have the most long armed rotation players/replacement (Murray) in the league . . .

Henson: 7'5''
Antetokounmpo and Maker: 7'3''
Parker and Snell: 6'11.5''
Middleton: 6'10.75''
Brogdon: 6'10.5''
Bledsoe: 6'7.5''

Aldridge: 7'4.75''
Gasol: 7'4''
Gay and Leonard: 7'3''
Anderson: 7'2.75''
Paul: 6'10.25''
Green: 6'10''
Murray: 6'9.5''

The problem is the Spurs are seemingly unwilling to use a gameplan/system to utilize that length advantage while Milwaukee is all about abusing it. Also need to consider that Milwaukee is both length and athleticism while the Spurs lack the latter.

[TD 21]

The problem is the Spurs are seemingly unwilling to use a gameplan/system to utilize that length advantage while Milwaukee is all about abusing it. Also need to consider that Milwaukee is both length and athleticism while the Spurs lack the latter.

In an attempt to leverage their combination of athleticism/length, Bucks play an aggressive/trapping defense, that the league began to exploit 2 seasons ago (under Kidd, they've finished 2, 22, t-17 and are currently 26), particularly via corner 3's.

Spurs play a more conservative defense, that leverages their length and collective IQ, while attempting to mask their lack of athleticism. They've finished 3, 1, 1 and are currently t-9, in the same timeframe.

Never mistake activity for achievement.

[tholdren]

The problem is the Spurs are seemingly unwilling to use a gameplan/system to utilize that length advantage while Milwaukee is all about abusing it. Also need to consider that Milwaukee is both length and athleticism while the Spurs lack the latter.

Nah.

[daslicer]

In an attempt to leverage their combination of athleticism/length, Bucks play an aggressive/trapping defense, that the league began to exploit 2 seasons ago (under Kidd, they've finished 2, 22, t-17 and are currently 26), particularly via corner 3's.

Spurs play a more conservative defense, that leverages their length and collective IQ, while attempting to mask their lack of athleticism. They've finished 3, 1, 1 and are currently t-9, in the same timeframe.

Never mistake activity for achievement.

Interesting observation on the Bucks. I just read a post by a bucks fan on real gm in which he said that he wasn't still impressed by the Bucks D last night and that the Bucks were lucky the spurs missed a lot of open corner 3's.