Game Thread: Spurs @ Mavs -- Tue. (11/14) - 7:30/C (3:30am Riga Time)

[BatManu20]

In Dallas tomorrow night to take on a Mavs team that currently holds the worst record in the NBA at 2-12. Danny and King Joffrey have been upgraded to questionable, but it looks like there's a good chance they both play. No reason for us not to win this game on the road regardless. Let's get it.



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[Chinook]

Big Four right there ^

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[SAGirl]

Big Four right there ^
Patty = :vomit:
Everyone else = :clap

[Joseph Kony]

Nice to see our only big off the bench coming back finally :tu (hopefully)

[Darius Bieber]

Mavs by 20+ tbh

[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

Not every one can remind Danny of himself.

[BatManu20]

Timmy the Gawd in-house.

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[SpurPadre]

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Just fucking come back Timmy! If only for 5-10 minutes a game after the All-Star break. He probably would still be one of the best bigs in the game, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

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LDN2 or LDN 2.0?

[bklynspursfan]

Joff returning is good news.

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[TimDunkem]

Just fucking come back Timmy! If only for 5-10 minutes a game after the All-Star break. He probably would still be one of the best bigs in the game, tbh.
Let him go.

[Spurtacular]

Just fucking come back Timmy! If only for 5-10 minutes a game after the All-Star break. He probably would still be one of the best bigs in the game, tbh.


Let him go.

I'd welcome Timmy back any time. That high low between Tim and LMA was wicked and only getting better in this smaller NBA.

[TheRemix]

The return of king joffrey

[DAF86]

Trap game. Carlisle always plays us tough.

[cjw]

I'd welcome Timmy back any time. That high low between Tim and LMA was wicked and only getting better in this smaller NBA.

Too bad that Diaw-West unit was so bad that it countered all the good of Tim + LMA.

Diaw was fat but we'll always still have 2014. West, meanwhile, just didn't have it that postseason but seems to turn back the clock 10 years whenever he comes in for the Warriors. What gives? Shooting like 70% from the field this year.

[Spurtacular]

Too bad that Diaw-West unit was so bad that it countered all the good of Tim + LMA.

Diaw was fat but we'll always still have 2014. West, meanwhile, just didn't have it that postseason but seems to turn back the clock 10 years whenever he comes in for the Warriors. What gives? Shooting like 70% from the field this year.

Warriors probably just put less responsibilities on him; just spot up and make your elbow shots. Probably even more open given he's like the 5th option a lot of the times.

[Spurtacular]

Trap game. Carlisle always plays us tough.

This game worries me more than the Bulls game did, tbh. But I guess that's not saying much considering we beat the Bulls by however much it was.

[cjw]

Warriors probably just put less responsibilities on him; just spot up and make your elbow shots. Probably even more open given he's like the 5th option a lot of the times.

That was essentially his role on the Spurs. He literally couldn't hit anything that Thunder series.

[TimDunkem]

Warriors probably just put less responsibilities on him; just spot up and make your elbow shots. Probably even more open given he's like the 5th option a lot of the times.
Also cutting as well as passing out of the high post.

He doesn't necessarily have more or less responsibilities; just a great fit on a better roster which leaves him with plenty of easy opportunities to contribute.

[spurs10]

This game worries me more than the Bulls game did, tbh. But I guess that's not saying much considering we beat the Bulls by however much it was. :lol Know what ya mean! After that Buck's debacle I almost felt bad for the Bulls.

[Spurtacular]

That was essentially his role on the Spurs. He literally couldn't hit anything that Thunder series.

Thunder's bigs own us in that series. And Roberson outplaying Kawhi?

[Spurtacular]

:lol Know what ya mean! After that Buck's debacle I almost felt bad for the Bulls.

:bobo

[Spurtacular]

Also cutting as well as passing out of the high post.

He doesn't necessarily have more or less responsibilities; just a great fit on a better roster which leaves him with plenty of easy opportunities to contribute.

Less minutes at his age is probably a good thing, too.

[TimDunkem]

Less minutes at his age is probably a good thing, too.
No doubt. His role is perfect for him right now and it's showing.

[Fireball]

Manu should rest this game and play against the T-Wolves tbh

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[Dex]

Manu should rest this game and play against the T-Wolves tbh

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Agreed. This Mavericks team is straight garbage. We could probably beat them with the last 6 players on our bench.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Kawhi is finished.

[Ice009]

Kawhi is finished.

What do you mean?

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[TheDoctor]

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[boutons_deux]

sorry to see Dirk on 2-12 Mavs at the bottom of the WC. He doesn't deserve this at the end of his career.

[Rocalcio]

sorry to see Dirk on 2-12 Mavs at the bottom of the WC. He doesn't deserve this at the end of his career.


He's done, he should have stopped last year.

[BatManu20]

sorry to see Dirk on 2-12 Mavs at the bottom of the WC. He doesn't deserve this at the end of his career.

Dirk's never been a good defender, but he's literally a traffic cone on that end of the floor now. Worst defensive big in the league tbh. Might be time to call it a career after this season.

[bdictjames]

Yeah, I agree. It's really sad seeing Dirk play defense out there. I feel those knees are just paper thin, and he literally can't stay in front of anybody. His offense is still something good, still one of the most confident shooters in the league, sadly most players in the NBA would feast on him on the defensive end. This should really be his farewell season.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs desperately need to keep winning, if we finish as the 6th seed again it’ll be another first round exit.

[peacemaker885]

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PATFO setting the stage for KL return. LMA sits when KL returns, book it.

[NameLess Scrub]

Spurs will get blown out tonight.

Feel free to speculate on the mid-range chucking scrub who will feast on the Spurs.

[gospursgojas]

Interested in seeing the Dallas rookie.

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[SupremeGuy]

Is this shit televised or not? It's not showing up on Spectrum.

[Robz4000]

Is this shit televised or not? It's not showing up on Spectrum.

Game's on KENS tonight.

[Ron Swanson]

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[K...]

In guessing 5pages in this game thread

[Leetonidas]

Joff out still

[Robz4000]

Thankfully Harris and Curry are out.

[007nites]

fathead and patty starting

[Robz4000]

:lol God damnit, are they really gonna struggle with Dallas?

[K...]

Gasol , Dirk in the tosb matchup of the week

[Chinook]

Wonder if Green's leg is still bothering him. His shots have all been short, which implies is elevation is off.

[Darius Bieber]

Struggling against the worst team in the league. This team is straight trash. I keep telling you delusional Spur homers.

[DAF86]

I'm getting tired of all the TO's of this team, tbh.

[140]

:lol spurms

[K...]

Oh, hey even with two bigs spurs can't defend the paint...lol

[140]

:lmao paussy

[007nites]

Midget lineup with Yogi and JJ.

[Robz4000]

What the fuck are the Spurs trying to do on offense?

[Ron Swanson]

RIP Nerlen's ankles.

[DAF86]

Better than Simmons with the charge.

[Robz4000]

I can see now why RC has been hesitant to give Noel many minutes. Dude is bad at basketball.

[DAF86]

It seems like Manu will rest tonight.

[K...]

Dang, Murray scored, dabom will jizz the forum

[140]

:rollin

[raybies]

Kleber another random spurs killer?

[lefty20]

First back to back makes for Fatty this season?

[raybies]

Murray had a solid first rotation

[DAF86]

Bertans being a fucking idiot outthere on D.

[raybies]

its paddy thrills time

[Chinook]

Bertans keeps fucking up on D. Whole team was yelling at him just now.

[140]

Kleber gonna have a career game tbh :lol

[raybies]

Bertans being a fucking idiot outthere on D.
probably why he doesn't play.

[DAF86]

probably why he doesn't play.

Of course that's why he doesn't play.

[SAGirl]

Well its a good game for Patty to finally bust a move and shoot well. :tu

[Ron Swanson]

Danny took that ball to the dome. :lol

[DAF86]

Is Nowitzki the worst defensive 7 footer of all-time?

[SAGirl]

Davis a TO as well.

[Hoops Czar]

Bertans needs to find a new hobby.

[DAF86]

Patty is cooking tonight.

[Ron Swanson]

About damn time Patty hits his shots.

[hooperflash]

I'm watching the Dalas broadcast

[Chews]

Atleast the microwave is plugged in tonight! :toast

[Chinook]

Is Nowitzki the worst defensive 7 footer of all-time?

Dirk had years of being a fine defender. But him getting old and slower was the last thing his defense needed.

[140]

My nigga 50 Mills showing why he's underpaid tbh
dabom

[DAF86]

Dirk had years of being a fine defender. But him getting old and slower was the last thing his defense needed.

Meh, he has never been better than pasable at best.

[SAGirl]

My nigga 50 Mills showing why he's underpaid tbh
dabom (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47543)
Problem is him getting heat checks then too often and not get others going as well tbh... but he really needed to start shooting better than he had been.

[SAGirl]

Soooo happpy to see Dijon getting it going too. :bobo

[DAF86]

Hell yeah DJ, that's it. No hesitation, make or miss.

Edit: he hesitated on the next play and almost turned it over.

[140]

:lmao softridge can't handle the tunisian GOAT

[DAF86]

Danny posting up and kicking it out for an Aldridge 3. :lmao

[SAGirl]

That's the difficulty in posting up a midget. Rudy with an ofoul drawn by Barea.

[SAGirl]

nice plays by Rudy both ends, block in transition, then the pass to aldridge on the PnR

[007nites]

lol we still up

[SAGirl]

considering the TO and the cold shooting nights I am happy Dijon and Mills had their shots going.
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[SAGirl]

http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100 Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge)PF
18
5-11
0-2
1-1
0
2
2
2
0
0
2
0
+7
11


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson)SF
15
1-3
0-0
1-2
0
0
0
1
1
0
0
1
+0
3


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol)C
13
1-1
0-0
0-0
1
6
7
2
0
0
1
1
-2
2


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
13
5-7
3-4
0-0
0
2
2
2
2
1
0
0
+0
13


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green)SG
16
1-4
0-2
0-0
0
3
3
1
0
0
1
0
+1
2


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay)SF
9
1-4
0-0
2-2
2
4
6
1
0
1
2
2
+4
4


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans)SF
5
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
0
+5
0


J. Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne)C
2
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
-3
0


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
10
3-5
1-2
0-0
0
3
3
0
0
0
0
0
+4
7


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
11
0-3
0-2
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
+5
0


B. Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2488911/brandon-paul)SG
6
1-2
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
+2
2


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili)SG
Has not entered game


TEAM

18-41
4-14
4-5
3
20
23
10
4
2
7
5

44




43.9%
28.6%
80.0%

[Budkin]

Time to blow this shit open please.

[Spurtacular]

Just tuning in; Mavs with 30 at halftime; wow.

[007nites]

Just tuning in; Mavs with 30 at halftime; wow.

39. Then again we are only up by 5.

[Ron Swanson]

So much for resting Manu.

[Spurtacular]

Harrison Barnes. Cold Garbage. :lol

[SAGirl]

Pop decided to play manu after he initially held him out.
He's in panic mode.

[Robz4000]

Aldridge is awful out there.

[007nites]

Mavs shooting is so bad lol

[SAGirl]

Patty has gone cold again.
Lamarcus has missed some bunnies.

[SAGirl]

Aldridge should be drawing some fouls if they are guarding him with small guys, or kicking out more if they double/triple... it's definitely Pop strategy to play inside and go to that matchup.

[boutons_deux]

Pau'S passing sucks

[SAGirl]

seemed to me he got ball first but it was a close call.

[Spurtacular]

Kyle Anderson always fumbling the fucking ball.

[Spurtacular]

Anderson is a sucky finisher from 5-12 feet.

[SAGirl]

Rudy not getting the benefit with these midgets guarding him.

[Seventyniner]

Bigger very-end-of-career dropoff: Dirk's D or Tim's O?

[TheRemix]

Would like to see kyle devlop some kind of post game

[pgardn]

Pop decided to play manu after he initially held him out.
He's in panic mode.

Panic mode.

Does not care.

Thrown in the towel.

We all know the mind of pop...

[DAF86]

Spurs/LA should have been doing that since the start. Punish those midgets.

You gotta hand it to Carlisle. That Dirk at center with Barnes at PF lineup is the best tanking strategy of all-time. There's no way you can win a bb game like that.

[Robz4000]

Bigger very-end-of-career dropoff: Dirk's D or Tim's O?

Dirk is near unplayable because of his D. At least Timmy could still facilitate on offense and finish at an acceptable level.

[SAGirl]

Panic mode.

Does not care.

Thrown in the towel.

We all know the mind of pop...

I don't know the mind of Pop but it didn't seem like he wanted to play Manu in this one. He wanted to save him for tomorrow... but this one is pulling in close with guys not shooting the ball well.

Actually I don't know if Danny is 100% either. He had that hamstring sore and was missing shots here, maybe he's not quite right and that is why Manu is there.

[SAGirl]

FORBES

[Chinook]

Would like to see kyle devlop some kind of post game

Kyle's post game is fine. Why do people keep acting like he doesn't have one? If he has issues, it's not his skill in that area but his body shape. Tall and thinnish is not a good make-up for a low-post guy, as KD found out after years of trying in OKC.

[DAF86]

Dirk is near unplayable because of his D. At least Timmy could still facilitate on offense and finish at an acceptable level.

On the other hand Duncan was elite on O, while Dirk has always been slightly below average at bwst on D.

[DAF86]

That terrorist looking guy is kind of douchey, tbh.

[Robz4000]

The fuck is this lineup?

[007nites]

Salah Mejeree!

[Ron Swanson]

King Joffrey

[Ron Swanson]

That terrorist looking guy is kind of douchey, tbh.

Wasn't he the guy who was trying to talk shit to Pop during a game a couple of years ago?

[Chinook]

That terrorist looking guy is kind of douchey, tbh.

Carlisle likes sleezy players.

[SAGirl]

Joffrey sucking fierce. Patty leaving Barea open for a 3

[Spurtacular]

Dubious call on Laverne and Shirley.

[Budkin]

This game...

[Cry Havoc]

Can we nickname Mejri "Car wash"? Cause all that dude does is scrub.

[Robz4000]

Disgraceful by the Spurs.

[SAGirl]

Pop should have had Murray with the bench running PnR... we know Patty isn't going to do well there... TO

[$pursDynasty]

Just turned on the game. But Where is Dabom? Patty looking like trash.

[TheRemix]

Kyle's post game is fine. Why do people keep acting like he doesn't have one? If he has issues, it's not his skill in that area but his body shape. Tall and thinnish is not a good make-up for a low-post guy, as KD found out after years of trying in OKC.

Because I hardly see it. He tries to get around his defenders with gaurd moves instead of backing them down with some post moves

[DAF86]

So let me get this straight.

Pop called time out just to sub out Murray because of a slight late rotation when the Spurs were up by 10 and DJ was playing with confidence. And now, a zillion bricks and TO's from Mills later, the game is virtually tied? Good shit, tbh.

[140]

spurms getting their shit pushed in by JJ and Salah :lol

[ElNono]

Phatty Mill smh

[007nites]

spurms getting their shit pushed in by JJ and Salah :lol

lol cmon man

[Robz4000]

Pop's shitty rotations most likely cost the Spurs this game.

[DAF86]

Yeah, let's post our SF against their tank like built center. That seems like a winning strategy.

[SAGirl]

Because I hardly see it. He tries to get around his defenders with gaurd moves instead of backing them down with some post moves
This might not be the game to try that.... Rudy Guy, who is a known post up player, with experience has already had two offensive fouls on midgets trying to back them down. maybe not the game to keep going at that the way it's getting called.

[Ron Swanson]

Forbes +1

[SAGirl]

Bryn Forbes!
ok so Danny is back and that wasn't a sore hamstring.
Getting Manu in was really a panic move.

[TheRemix]

This might not be the game to try that.... Rudy Guy, who is a known post up player, with experience has already had two offensive fouls on midgets trying to back them down. maybe not the game to keep going at that the way it's getting called.

Fair enough

[Spurtacular]

My nigga Mills makin' the haters look bad.

[8FOR!3]

Good defense on the rookie, Danny. Rudy Gay’s not having his best game but I like the way he’s playing looks like the ball or the calls won’t go his way tn

[Budkin]

Low point of the season incoming...

[SAGirl]

So let me get this straight.

Pop called time out just to sub out Murray because of a slight late rotation when the Spurs were up by 10 and DJ was playing with confidence. And now, a zillion bricks and TO's from Mills later, the game is virtually tied? Good shit, tbh.
:lol

Pop has been questionable this game for sure.

[cd98]

Is it me or does Forbes give a lot of and 1s.

[Spurtacular]

My nigga Mills makin' the haters look bad.

[K...]

showtime danny!

[Spurtacular]

Smart; use Anderson as a decoy. Don't want him thinking he has to finish a shot he can't finish.

[Ron Swanson]

That's goaltending.

[140]

Low point of the season incoming...

[Spurtacular]

Smart; use Anderson as a decoy. Don't want him thinking he has to finish a shot he can't finish.

Anderson vastly underthrowing the wide open alley oop.

[SAGirl]

Kyle nice block

[Cry Havoc]

:lol Mejri trying to guard LMA.

[TheRemix]

Nice kyle

[SAGirl]

Kyle nice defensive plays back to back tbh

[ElNono]

PhlopHead

[TheRemix]

Mejri is just getting abused out there

[$pursDynasty]

All aboard the :lma

[Robz4000]

Fathead making things happen :tu

[Spurtacular]

Sorry, cliffjumpers. Not tonight.

[SAGirl]

nice team basketball. :tu

[Chinook]

Because I hardly see it. He tries to get around his defenders with gaurd moves instead of backing them down with some post moves

Kyle physically isn't going to back down anybody. He's tall with a high center of gravity, so a guy like Wes Matthews would wreck him on the block. In a similar way, Paul is surprisingly good defending the three because his body type prevents him from being posted up as easily as a guy like Forbes.

Anderson is a high-post player. He should be facing up and either shooting over smaller guys or working around bigger guys. Give him Diaws girth, and maybe he would be better served on the low block.

[K...]

ok daddy lamarcus is going to take over. keep that rotten patty shittermill off the floor please.

[DAF86]

Here come the substitutions to fuck up all the momentum.

[SAGirl]

PhlopHead
:lmao:toast

[Ron Swanson]

Rockets lost to Toronto.

[SAGirl]

Barnes was out of control.. that was a bad call tbh

[DAF86]

Somebody explain to me the Mills for Paul substitution. :lol

[Ron Swanson]

Nice rebound by Kyle.

[Chinook]

Is Anderson the best passer on the Spurs, or is it Pau?

[Spurtacular]

Anderson is a high-post player. He should be facing up and either shooting over smaller guys or working around bigger guys. Give him Diaws girth, and maybe he would be better served on the low block.

Nope. He still fumbles the ball and sucks at finishing, tbh.

[SAGirl]

Kyle and Lamarcus do have a lot of chemistry tbh.

[Ron Swanson]

MVPelon

[SAGirl]

Is Anderson the best passer on the Spurs, or is it Pau?
Pau is good but he's so slow telegraphing passes.

I get dibs on anderson, 24 years old, future is bright.

[Robz4000]

Stupid foul

[SAGirl]

Manu 33333 happy to see that.

[Spurtacular]

2nd best Spur of all-time doing 2nd best Spur of all-time things.

[Spurtacular]

Kyle and Lamarcus do have a lot of chemistry tbh.

Their chemistry against the Warriors :lmao

[SAGirl]

Somebody explain to me the Mills for Paul substitution. :lol
50 Millssssss

[SAGirl]

Their chemistry against the Warriors :lmao
a problem created by Pop not playing them together like this all season tbh...
problem created by keeping guys in doghouses that should have been playing all season.

[Spurtacular]

Aldridge should've shot that out to Green for the wide open three. He got bailed out, jumping off the wrong foot.

[ElNono]

39 year old Manu is the best PG on the Spurs, tbh

[Robz4000]

Spurs begging to choke right now.

[Ron Swanson]

Kyle just obliterated that shot.

[Spurtacular]

a problem created by Pop not playing them together like this all season tbh...
problem created by keeping guys in doghouses that should have been playing all season.

Neither had the mental toughness last year. And Anderson played his way out of the rotation last year, tbh.

[DAF86]

Having to insert the 40 year old to orchestrate the offense just to scrap a win vs the Mavs. :lol

[ElNono]

Easy win

[SAGirl]

39 year old Manu is the best PG on the Spurs, tbh
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[Robz4000]

:lmao Mills choking

[Ron Swanson]

Manu :cry

[ElNono]

No pressure Patty

[Spurtacular]

Dirk an even bigger traffic cone than Parker. :lol

[SAGirl]

Dennis Smith Jr is going to be a killer eventually. mavs got a good one in him at least.

[ElNono]

Closer closing the games he’s supposed to close

[SAGirl]

MVPELON earned HOF level kudos for this one at 40 tbh.

[Robz4000]

I'll take the W, but it's embarrassing that it was such a struggle.

[SAGirl]

Neither had the mental toughness last year. And Anderson played his way out of the rotation last year, tbh.
no he didn't, but I don't care to argue with you. enjoy your hate train.

[K...]

fuck it's over. There were absolutely no real highlights this game. No one played well just adequate.

[raybies]

I'll take the W, but it's embarrassing that it was such a struggle.
Pop was managing minutes. It was basically a light jog out there. Don't know what struggle you saw.

[DAF86]

Dennis Smith Jr is going to be a killer eventually. mavs got a good one in him at least.

:lol Lakers

[LakerHater]

Damn, decent win but can't play like this tomorrow nite!!

[Chinook]

Dennis Smith Jr is going to be a killer eventually. mavs got a good one in him at least.

I'm not so sure. Smith lost them that game, if you don't think the Spurs came out and won it. Dude was a huge negative when things were tight and only came on once the team was told to lay off to avoid fouls. He's super-quick, but his size caps his ceiling. If Murray weren't a poor defender, and if Mills weren't Mills, he would have looked even worse.

[raybies]

:lol Lakers
or should we say Knicks...

[Robz4000]

Pop was managing minutes. It was basically a light jog out there. Don't know what struggle you saw.

LMA - 36 mins
Fathead - 34 mins
Mills - 30 mins
LDN - 27 mins on a bad hamstring

Am I the only one who saw Mills get murdered constantly by pressure defense again and the Spurs struggle to generate consistent offense outside LMA postups?

[DAF86]

or should we say Knicks...

Knicks grabbed Porzingis when they could. Besides, that French guy isn't looking too shabby. Lakers on the other hand, have been throwing lottery picks to the trash for I don't know how many years now.

[raybies]

LMA - 36 mins
Fathead - 34 mins
Mills - 30 mins
LDN - 27 mins on a bad hamstring

Am I the only one who saw Mills get murdered constantly by pressure defense again and the Spurs struggle to generate consistent offense outside LMA postups?
ok how do you explain everyone on the roster playing and Manu not playing till the second half basically?

[SAGirl]

I'm not so sure. Smith lost them that game, if you don't think the Spurs came out and won it. Dude was a huge negative when things were tight and only came on once the team was told to lay off to avoid fouls. He's super-quick, but his size caps his ceiling. If Murray weren't a poor defender, and if Mills weren't Mills, he would have looked even worse.
I noticed his mentality though. He's young and made his mistakes.. but he was unafraid and he really wanted to kill you if he could.

Though... point taken with Mills being out there tbh. He can make Austin Rivers look like an all star.
He might make Lonzo Ball finally look like the star Lakers want him to be.

[DAF86]

ok how do you explain everyone on the roster playing and Manu not playing till the second half basically?

Having to play Manu at all, when he wasn't originally planned to, doesn't help your position, tbh.

[K...]

God, I can't wait till Tony is back. Dribble dribble dribble is way better than what this team does now.

[raybies]

Having to play Manu at all, when he wasn't originally planned to, doesn't help your position, tbh.
he was managing minutes like I said. Regular rotations and this game would've been a blowout. How does that hurt my argument when that's what i said in the first place. Don't tell me y'all were actually worried. We shot the ball like crap and still won easily. I'm more concerned about playing worse on the road. Our last 4 game losing streak started on the road. We got a lot of role players. Home court helps a ton.

[BatManu20]

Ci19pBh27dY

[Robz4000]

ok how do you explain everyone on the roster playing and Manu not playing till the second half basically?

It was said multiple times earlier in the thread, Pop panicked in the third quarter and put Manu in. Turns out it was the correct decision since this game was much more winnable than tomorrow night will be.

[SAGirl]

LMA - 36 mins
Fathead - 34 mins
Mills - 30 mins
LDN - 27 mins on a bad hamstring

Am I the only one who saw Mills get murdered constantly by pressure defense again and the Spurs struggle to generate consistent offense outside LMA postups?
I saw what you saw.
I think Mills was there bc he had the hot hand early and no one else was hitting the long ball tonight until the second half I think.
I personally thought Dejounte was fine and could have played more but the game was too close and once Pop decided to play Manu he went all in.

We should be glad Manu's good game wasn't wasted and that Lamarcus eventually poured over 30+ pts to pull this one.

[DAF86]

he was managing minutes like I said. Regular rotations and this game would've been a blowout. How does that hurt my argument when that's what i said in the first place. Don't tell me y'all were actually worried. We shot the ball like crap and still won easily. I'm more concerned about playing worse on the road. Our last 4 game losing streak started on the road. We got a lot of role players. Home court helps a ton.

You literally said "light jog". Folks don't play over 35 minutes on Spurs' light jog games. Stop being such a homer son, it's annoying.

[SAGirl]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


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36
12-21
0-2
8-10
1
4
5
4
1
2
3
1
+12
32


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson)SF
34
1-4
0-0
5-6
2
6
8
3
1
2
0
2
+9
7


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol)C
23
1-5
0-2
0-0
1
9
10
4
0
0
3
1
+5
2


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
30
7-13
4-9
1-2
0
3
3
2
4
1
1
1
-7
19


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green)SG
27
2-6
0-3
0-0
0
3
3
1
2
1
1
0
+1
4


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay)SF
16
1-7
0-1
2-2
2
4
6
2
0
1
3
3
-1
4


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans)SF
5
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
0
+5
0


J. Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne)C
5
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
1
-10
0


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
20
4-7
1-2
1-2
1
6
7
0
0
0
0
3
+11
10


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
18
2-5
0-2
0-1
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
2
-3
4


B. Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2488911/brandon-paul)SG
10
1-3
0-2
0-0
0
1
1
1
0
0
0
1
+10
2


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili)SG
16
4-7
1-2
4-4
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
-2
13


TEAM

35-79
6-26
21-27
8
39
47
18
9
7
12
16

97




44.3%
23.1%
77.8%

[SAGirl]

You literally said "light jog". Folks don't play over 35 minutes on Spurs' light jog games. Stop being such a homer son, it's annoying.
let him be homer... too much hating here.
I like the positive he brings.
----
YOU DO YOU raybies. :tu

[raybies]

It was said multiple times earlier in the thread, Pop panicked in the third quarter and put Manu in. Turns out it was the correct decision since this game was much more winnable than tomorrow night will be.
That may be the case, but getting Manu just one half of work is a win in my book. Could of been by design too. Let the kids play and see if they can stretch it and give Manu a rest and if they can't put him in. I don't remember a time when Pop brought someone in that he wanted to rest. That's why I lean with the idea that Manu was gonna play if he had to. The bench wasn't getting it done so he brought him in and he closed. If he was really planning on resting him let's see if he plays tomorrow.

[DAF86]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge)PF
36
12-21
0-2
8-10
1
4
5
4
1
2
3
1
+12
32


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson)SF
34
1-4
0-0
5-6
2
6
8
3
1
2
0
2
+9
7


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol)C
23
1-5
0-2
0-0
1
9
10
4
0
0
3
1
+5
2


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
30
7-13
4-9
1-2
0
3
3
2
4
1
1
1
-7
19


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green)SG
27
2-6
0-3
0-0
0
3
3
1
2
1
1
0
+1
4


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay)SF
16
1-7
0-1
2-2
2
4
6
2
0
1
3
3
-1
4


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans)SF
5
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
0
+5
0


J. Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne)C
5
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
1
-10
0


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
20
4-7
1-2
1-2
1
6
7
0
0
0
0
3
+11
10


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
18
2-5
0-2
0-1
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
2
-3
4


B. Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2488911/brandon-paul)SG
10
1-3
0-2
0-0
0
1
1
1
0
0
0
1
+10
2


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili)SG
16
4-7
1-2
4-4
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
-2
13


TEAM

35-79
6-26
21-27
8
39
47
18
9
7
12
16

97




44.3%
23.1%
77.8%











lol Manu -2

Murray +11. At what point does it stop being a small sample size?

[DAF86]

let him be homer... too much hating here.
I like the positive he brings.
----
YOU DO YOU raybies. :tu

I'm a pretty positive poster, tbh. I just don't dig this whole "everything the Spurs do is perfection" thing.

[SAGirl]

God, I can't wait till Tony is back. Dribble dribble dribble is way better than what this team does now.
:lol
always a good time to be grateful for HOTS wolverine like recovery. :toast

[raybies]

You literally said "light jog". Folks don't play over 35 minutes on Spurs' light jog games. Stop being such a homer son, it's annoying.
Rudy had 16 minutes. He's been averaging like 25-26 a game. Manu had 16 and didn't play till the second half. Starters played about average except Anderson really, but he's young. LMA has been playing that many minutes on back to backs this season if I remember correctly. Not being a homer just calling what I see. The rotations were different, everyone played, and Manu didn't come in till the second. Yes I would classify that as a light jog. A more strenuous activity and the three reasons I stated would have been nonexistant. Don't let Dennis' late game barrage that had no impact on the game make you think this game was in doubt.

[Chinook]

It was said multiple times earlier in the thread, Pop panicked in the third quarter and put Manu in. Turns out it was the correct decision since this game was much more winnable than tomorrow night will be.

Yeah, no way can the Spurs beat Minnesota...

[DAF86]

Three games today. How does Game Time start it's show? With plays from 2 of the winner and one from the Mavs, of course. :lol

[SAGirl]

I'm a pretty positive poster, tbh. I just don't dig this whole "everything the Spurs do is perfection" thing.
got you.
I am with you though but I am not bothered by raybies.
I do think Pop didn'tplan to play Manu here, and that he wanted to play the young guys more. Midway through the game panic mode set in, he started benching guys and that is how you end with:
LMA - 36 mins
Fathead - 34 mins
Mills - 30 mins
LDN - 27 mins on a bad hamstring

plus having to play Manu in a B2B if he doesn't sit tomorrow. What do you think?

[raybies]

let him be homer... too much hating here.
I like the positive he brings.
----
YOU DO YOU raybies (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42684). :tu
:toast i ain't bothered. figured i read enough shit takes, I'm gonna speak my mind too and let the more persuaded people have a choice in what they want to believe. better than everyone Letouches this Porker that

[Robz4000]

Yeah, no way can the Spurs beat Minnesota...

They can obviously, but it's a much harder game than Dallas should be (should've been).

[raybies]

Yeah, no way can the Spurs beat Minnesota...
Spurs by 7

[DAF86]

Rudy had 16 minutes. He's been averaging like 25-26 a game. Manu had 16 and didn't play till the second half. Starters played about average except Anderson really, but he's young. LMA has been playing that many minutes on back to backs this season if I remember correctly. Not being a homer just calling what I see. The rotations were different, everyone played, and Manu didn't come in till the second. Yes I would classify that as a light jog. A more strenuous activity and the three reasons I stated would have been nonexistant. Don't let Dennis' late game barrage that had no impact on the game make you think this game was in doubt.

When did I say this game was ever in doubt? I'm just saying this was far from a light jog. The Bulls game, that was a light jog.

Gay played that little because he sucked tonight, simple as that.

Manu wasn't planned to play and had to play 16 second half minutes. i don't remember the last time he played that many minutes on just one half.

That alone tells you this game wasn't by any means a "light jog".

[raybies]

They can obviously, but it's a much harder game than Dallas should be (should've been).
I'm more worried about the bench and the role players. Rudy is gonna have to be big and I think that is why he was limited in minutes tonight. LMA has been pretty consistent so I'm counting on him. Typically Spurs wins have required big contributions from at least 4 people so I wonder who is gonna step up for us to have a chance.

[Darius Bieber]

Barely able to beat the Mavs... This team is straight trash

[raybies]

When did I say this game was ever in doubt? I'm just saying this was far from a light jog. The Bulls game, that was a light jog.

(1)Gay played that little because he sucked tonight, simple as that.

(2)Manu wasn't planned to play and had to play 16 second half minutes. i don't remember the last time he played that many minutes on just one half.

(3)That alone tells you this game wasn't by any means a "light jog".


(1)I don't think that's Pops style to not play a rotation player because he sucked. When has that happened to an important player? Rudy is the second best player on the Spurs right now imo.

(2) I think they planned on playing him if they had to. . Not Pop's style to play players he planned on resting. When does he do that? From my point of view I don't remember a time that has ever happened.

(3)The Bulls game was taken more seriously than this game. Didn't we have regular rotations until the blowout?

[SAGirl]

Interesting takes raybies.
Pop didn't want to throw this one and was ready to play manu if he had to, which he ended up having to.
He would have liked for the roleplayers (he even played Davis) to shoot better like they did in the Bulls game, but this was a close game and if the long ball wasn't falling he wasn't tolerating mistakes. Rudy didn't have a good game, definitely. He tried to post up midgets by design and got two offensive fouls called, and he passed up some shots from range. He seemed out of it offensively. Pop wasn't ready to make this one of those games Rudy is known for where he goes 5-17 or some shit. Kyle is very young as you said, and he was tenacious on defense here, plus I think he has better chemistry with Lamarcus and Pop wanted everything run through him or through a PnR pretty much. and guys played a slow game (light jog) by design. Slow, grind out game, everything through the post, classic Pop.

[raybies]

Interesting takes raybies.
Pop didn't want to throw this one and was ready to play manu if he had to, which he ended up having to.
He would have liked for the roleplayers (he even played Davis) to shoot better like they did in the Bulls game, but this was a close game and if the long ball wasn't falling he wasn't tolerating mistakes. Rudy didn't have a good game, definitely. He tried to post up midgets by design and got two offensive fouls called, and he passed up some shots from range. He seemed out of it offensively. Pop wasn't ready to make this one of those games Rudy is known for where he goes 5-17 or some shit. Kyle is very young as you said, and he was tenacious on defense here, plus I think he has better chemistry with Lamarcus and Pop wanted everything run through him or through a PnR pretty much. and guys played a slow game (light job) by design. Slow, grind out game, everything through the post, classic Pop.
I'll just have to agree to disagree with DAF... But Kyle deserves a lot of credit. He's been playing like a veteran. The Mavs casters said,"He must be an old soul, cause he's young but plays like a veteran." He's a solid 3 in this league and with Patty starting the point it really helps him shine cause he can play point and he has the spacing. His decision making has been really good but I wonder how far from prime kyle he is. He's not an explosive scorer or anything. He's got this like tortoise and the hare style to his game. I'd imagine he'd be a longtime rotation player.

[Joseph Kony]

Barely able to beat the Mavs... This team is straight trash

like all of your posts