Manu is washed up and needs to be released ASAP

[hater]

Drop that turd off across the border and dont look back

Smh he is a spurs killer when he enters his washed up dry ass in the 2nd quarters

Release him anyone would be better than him at this point

What an embarrasment

[Splits]

4 minutes

4 turnovers

[hater]

All hes good for is 1 flop a game

Thats it

[KDKSpurs24]

I’m not overreacting but I’ve been saying all season that Manu has been single-handedly giving games away. Turnovers to ruin momentum and all of that.

[hater]

I’m not overreacting but I’ve been saying all season that Manu has been single-handedly giving games away. Turnovers to ruin momentum and all of that.

I knew this would happen thus why I wanted him retired.

Pop is a retard who wont resist inserting this cancer at any point in a game.

Locking him out of the building would be the only chance we could have

[spurs1990]

4 minutes

4 turnovers

Are you serious?

[UZER]

Spurs legend, yes. Old dog that can't stop pissing all over the carpet, yes.

[Poolboy5623]

This Spurs team is sad. To think they had GS down 23 in game 1 and this is what they were able to put together for the following season? My goodness...

[pgardn]

Gotta have him with this group.

He understands what Pop wants.
But he ain't leading the team in physical ability.
Absolutely we need him.

[hater]

This Spurs team is sad. To think they had GS down 23 in game 1 and this is what they were able to put together for the following season? My goodness...

Hand 50 million to an australian hamburger and resign a 75 year old guatemalan will do that to you

[FkLA]

This Spurs team is sad. To think they had GS down 23 in game 1 and this is what they were able to put together for the following season? My goodness...

That was with Kawhichael, retard.

[UZER]

Gotta have him with this group.

He understands what Pop wants.
But he ain't leading the team in physical ability.
Absolutely we need him.

That's a problem is itself. Why do we still need a 40 yo Manu? Pop needs Manu because he wants to need Manu.

[pgardn]

That's a problem is itself. Why do we still need a 40 yo Manu? Pop needs Manu because he wants to need Manu.

No he needs Manu.
This team has very little physical talent.
With KL we have a slight chance. If injuries are rampant in the rest of the league and Tony comes back to give us some continuity.

There is only hope.
Seriously, we have almost zero chance to win everything. We need a guy who understands what it takes even if he can't physically give it to us.

[UZER]

No he needs Manu.
This team has very little physical talent.
With KL we have a slight chance. If injuries are rampant in the rest of the league and Tony comes back to give us some continuity.

There is only hope.
Seriously, we have almost zero chance to win everything. We need a guy who understands what it takes even if he can't physically give it to us.

That's sound nice and good, but Manu is 40 and a walking turnover. The only thing he understands is still trying to play like he's 25. It's lazy of Pop to still need Manu this much at this point in his career.

[hater]

Lol manure sat entire 2nd quarter and we came back from a 21 point hole

[pgardn]

That's sound nice and good, but Manu is 40 and a walking turnover. The only thing he understands is still trying to play like he's 25. It's lazy of Pop to still need Manu this much at this point in his career.

Yeah that's a problem and a blessing.
He is the by far the most mentally tough player on the team.
This cannot be understated. Even if he comes in street clothes we need him with this team.

Who is the guts of this team?
Seriously.
Who? We need that guy. Duncan is gone.
We can't obtain a young Jason Kidd.

[tholdren]

Youre stupid

[pgardn]

Youre stupid

Sure.

Good analysis.
Get someone from the Austin team to sit in the 14 th spot.

[tholdren]

Sure.

Good analysis.
Get someone from the Austin team to sit in the 14 th spot.

Even dumber

[pgardn]

Even dumber

Good analysis.
Love your ideas for this team.
Keep up the good work.

And maybe drive yourself into a ditch...
After you emerge, watch those sarcastic line drives right over your head.

[tholdren]

Good analysis.
Love your ideas for this team.
Keep up the good work.

And maybe drive yourself into a ditch...
After you emerge, watch those sarcastic line drives right over your head.

Still dumb

[DAF86]

Even dumber


Good analysis.
Love your ideas for this team.
Keep up the good work.

And maybe drive yourself into a ditch...
After you emerge, watch those sarcastic line drives right over your head.

You do realize you are both on the same side, right? :lol

[tholdren]

You do realize you are both on the same side, right? :lol

28k posts. Cool

[pgardn]

You do realize you are both on the same side, right? :lol

Nah.

I see why Manu CAN be useful.
This idiot has no clue.

[tholdren]

Nah.

I see why Manu CAN be useful.
This idiot has no clue.

Youre both idiots. My first comment was to hater.

[DAF86]

Youre both idiots. My first comment was to hater.

That's what I was implying moron. :lol

[Mr. Body]

Brilliant thread. Great job.

[pgardn]

That's what I was implying moron. :lol

You are correct.

But he still needs to drive into a ditch.

[Mikeanaro]

HE TREATED STEVEN ADAMS LIKE A WHORE! thats why OP is mad at him.

[hater]

HE TREATED STEVEN ADAMS LIKE A WHORE! thats why OP is mad at him.

He sat down the whole 2nd quarter so we can come back from a 21 pt hole

Hes a net minus

[DAF86]

HE TREATED STEVEN ADAMS LIKE A WHORE! thats why OP is mad at him.

When Adams was killing us on the glass (and almost killed Kyle literally :lol) Manu just went out there, placed his lonely ball on Adams' nape, took a rebound out of his hands, then grabbed his armed, took him to the ground and on top of that, tricked the refs into calling the foul on Admas. Fucking legend. :lol

[hater]

I do agree he did well banging adams tbqh

Manu is made out of rubber

[ElNono]

Damn, what a comeback by Manu in the 4th giving us the lead, and then knocking more 3s... his leadership will be missed when he's gone, tbh

[Play Boban]

:cry

[hater]

Damn, what a comeback by Manu in the 4th giving us the lead, and then knocking more 3s... his leadership will be missed when he's gone, tbh

Him sitting the entire second Q was more valuable

el Benchito :tu

[Capt Bringdown]

Guys, give credit where credit is due. Spurs have been blessed with some extraordinary talent over the years, but it took Manu to get the mexicans to finally notice that there's an NBA team in town.

[UZER]

Damn, what a comeback by Manu in the 4th giving us the lead, and then knocking more 3s... his leadership will be missed when he's gone, tbh

Glad Pop yanked his ass in the first when he was playing for the Thunder and didn't bring him back until he settled down in the second half. I was watching closely to see if Pop would tank him again, as would've been deserved, if he started screwing up nr second half. THATS how he needs to coach him now. Not this "oh well, that's just Manu" crap.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Good thread nice job OP blah blah

there are are some idiots here that will be fun to quote later though

[-21-]

I love Manu but those consecutive turnovers early in the game were unacceptable.

[ElNono]

Glad Pop yanked his ass in the first when he was playing for the Thunder and didn't bring him back until he settled down in the second half. I was watching closely to see if Pop would tank him again, as would've been deserved, if he started screwing up nr second half. THATS how he needs to coach him now. Not this "oh well, that's just Manu" crap.

He's going to have quarters like that, especially against good defenders like Paul George, tbh... I'm also glad Pop pulled the plug then, and that Manu recovered nicely in the 2nd half... we needed every point he scored, tbh, especially with LMA and fathead (both played well) missing freebies at the end.

[Fireball]

nice job ... Manu‘s look after his second three was like „take that, hater“ ...

everybody provided to that comeback

[Chris]

Him sitting the entire second Q was more valuable

el Benchito :tu

zUyqDxa2k3w

[davidbowie]

manu took a dump on adams

man handled that freak bitch!!!!

manu knew he was having a rough night so he got physical with him to help the team. loved it

[Pocho La Pantera]

Manu squirting on OP's face again

[TheGreatYacht]

6 turnovers yesterday :lol what are the Mexicans happy about?

[UZER]

6 turnovers yesterday :lol what are the Mexicans happy about?

Practically gives the game away in the first, then the team comes back when he's back on the bench, and he decides to have a decent second half.

And despite his better second half, he tries to blunder it away again but giving Russell Westbrook three free throws on that last inbounds play. He fouled the shit outta Russ but they didn't call it. Dude can't help himself. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Practically gives the game away in the first, then the team comes back when he's back on the bench, and he decides to have a decent second half.

And despite his better second half, he tries to blunder it away again but giving Russell Westbrook three free throws on that last inbounds play. He fouled the shit outta Russ but they didn't call it. Dude can't help himself. :lol
Truth fucking bomb. That's a perfect summary to his career. The team does all the hard work and leave it to him to try and take the spotlight at the end of games. That's why I didn't want him back, not even for the vets min. He doesn't know his fucking role.

[Capt Bringdown]

There must be a million XXL Manu jerseys hanging in SA closets. And that's the women-folk.

[Poolboy5623]

That was with Kawhichael, retard.

No shit, retard.... I was referring to kawhi’s supporting cast, or lack there of! You must be one of those retards that thought the Spurs were going to win that series with a healthy Leonard??

[phxspurfan]

Spurs legend, yes. Old dog that can't stop pissing all over the carpet, yes.

nice analogy

[tholdren]

nice analogy

Except that he helped lead the comeback

[tonight...you]

There must be a million XXL Manu jerseys hanging in SA closets. And that's the women-folk.
Quoted for truth.

[Canyonero]

what are the Mexicans happy about?

Shouldn't you know that?

[Slippy]

We have all become accustomed to manu when he in this mode. Reckless & tired looking dribbles or passes. After the second TO surely pop noticed this too. For whatever reason pop stayed with him till the second term. Left the spurs in a big hole that most times is too hard to overcome . Would prefer pop make that leash on manu shorter since the team is minus two starters. Winning games is already an uphill battle. All it takes is a quicker adjusment from pop.

[cd98]

Manu played bad but turned it around. I’ve been to several games this year, and every play he does gets the crowd into it. Most other players on the roster can’t get the crowd into it.

But I’m glad the Spurs played the game down by 20. Nothing hurts the Thunder more than blowing a lead against a team that doesn’t have their best player. And Westbrook getting shut down by green was icing.

[BSfromTX]

Must be a sad life to spend that much energy hating a legend then logging in and out of alts to support the idea.

No matter how hard OP will try, he will never be considered a sane person. Worst troll attempt of all time

[tholdren]

Manu played bad but turned it around. I’ve been to several games this year, and every play he does gets the crowd into it. Most other players on the roster can’t get the crowd into it.

But I’m glad the Spurs played the game down by 20. Nothing hurts the Thunder more than blowing a lead against a team that doesn’t have their best player. And Westbrook getting shut down by green was icing.

Your first paragraph is what no stat can explain. And why they are ridiculous

[Stabula]

Manu was legendary in the 2nd half. It was Pimplevich that tried to throw the game by not calling time out in the final minute or so.

[Play Boban]

:cry

[tholdren]

Bump for fun

[Diego20]

OP :lol

[DAF86]

Bump for fun

Do never bump while the game is on play. Anti-jinx rule number one.

[hater]

What game did u nigas watch??

Manure was throwing the game with 3 minutes to go with his turnovers, bad fouls and bricks

Green saved us

[ElNono]

damn, dude shot 63% overall (best in team), 40% on 3s, but he was being guarded by Benchinelli tho, big asterisk there, IMO

[bklynspursfan]

Op lol

[Mikeanaro]

:lol

[DarrinS]

:lol

[Play Boban]

:wakeup

[cutewizard]

Hahaha

[cutewizard]

Manu is the best of all time

[hater]

Thanks gawd for danny green :tu

[tholdren]

Thanks gawd for danny green :tu

Nice thread..... not

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Drop that turd off across the border and dont look back

Smh he is a spurs killer when he enters his washed up dry ass in the 2nd quarters

Release him anyone would be better than him at this point

What an embarrasment

I commend you for yet another thread about how awful Manu is... you get #1

[Pocho La Pantera]

:bobo

[duncan2k5]

I dont trust Manu at his age vs the teams we need to beat... The better teams have long athletes that constantly pick him off for dunks on the other end... Against bottom dwellers? He looks fine... At times...

[DAF86]

I dont trust Manu at his age vs the teams we need to beat... The better teams have long athletes that constantly pick him off for dunks on the other end... Against bottom dwellers? He looks fine... At times...

x3npmuIAD-E

[tholdren]

I dont trust Manu at his age vs the teams we need to beat... The better teams have long athletes that constantly pick him off for dunks on the other end... Against bottom dwellers? He looks fine... At times...

Bwahahahah

[kuato]

I dont trust Manu at his age vs the teams we need to beat... The better teams have long athletes that constantly pick him off for dunks on the other end... Against bottom dwellers? He looks fine... At times...

Not even Manu trust him to win against good teams... that's not his role anymore, but Frenchie and Kiwi are off so Manu needs to create for the team.

[tholdren]

Not even Manu trust him to win against good teams... that's not his role anymore, but Frenchie and Kiwi are off so Manu needs to create for the team.

...... ???

[Play Boban]

:cry

[kuato]

...... ???

He is old!!! the dude is old, you can't blame him if the team can't win.

[tholdren]

He is old!!! the dude is old, you can't blame him if the team can't win.

???

[NameLess Scrub]

Gotta credit hater for the commitment on reverse jinxing.

Also he might have attributed Manu most of the nationalities in America except Argentinian.

[hater]

Manure turding it up tonite

[still.focused]

This is the second game in a row where hes had back to back to back turnovers
Not something I normally keep track of but I dont ever really noticing a player doing this before
And I watch a looooooooooooooooooot of basketball

[Capt Bringdown]

Manu's presence on this year's squad was strictly a PR move. He's not expected to do anything else but speak mexican.

[james evans]

yall get used to it. He's not retiring until ALL of the Ball brothers are in the league. The Spurs just won't say "no" to him

[Capt Bringdown]

He's not retiring until ALL of the Ball brothers are in the league. The Spurs just won't say "no" to him

He's not retiring until the Spurs stop throwing shipping containers full of cash at him. He's getting paid like the Pope for doing fuck all...nice work if you can get it.

[DAF86]

Manu's presence on this year's squad was strictly a PR move. He's not expected to do anything else but speak mexican.

Funny I didn't see you posting here after the last game, tbh.

[james evans]

he's good for a decent game every now and then, but he's washed up. If you can't see that, you need some glasses

[ElNono]

Currently 3rd best player after LMA and Rudy, tbh...

[SAGirl]

Currently 3rd best player after LMA and Rudy, tbh...
no its LMA, Pau, then take your pick between Rudy early in the season or Kyle as of late. Danny has had better games as well.
Manu hasn't been good.
Occasionally he will flash a good game, that is it. It's a sad sight tbh.

[ElNono]

no its LMA, Pau, then take your pick between Rudy early in the season or Kyle as of late. Danny has had better games as well.
Manu hasn't been good.
Occasionally he will flash a good game, that is it. It's a sad sight tbh.

Not really, no. And I like what Kyle and Danny have been doing, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

no its LMA, Pau, then take your pick between Rudy early in the season or Kyle as of late. Danny has had better games as well.
Manu hasn't been good.
Occasionally he will flash a good game, that is it. It's a sad sight tbh.

Minute for minute, Manu is better than Kyle, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Manu's presence on this year's squad was strictly a PR move. He's not expected to do anything else but speak mexican.

:lmao

6.1 / 10

[Spurtacular]

He's not retiring until the Spurs stop throwing shipping containers full of cash at him. He's getting paid like the Pope for doing fuck all...nice work if you can get it.

$2.5 M, dude? Don't think that matters that much at this point, honestly.

0.9 / 10

[SAGirl]

Not really, no. And I like what Kyle and Danny have been doing, tbh.
ok homer glasses on. understood. I don't want to cite stats bc the quality of this forum has been shit but you know.

[Spurtacular]

I don't want to cite stats because they won't make my case.

[ElNono]

ok homer glasses on. understood. I don't want to cite stats bc the quality of this forum has been shit but you know.

smh playerfans

[duncan2k5]

Bwahahahah

HI player fan... What's so funny?

[duncan2k5]

x3npmuIAD-E

Wait... This is your example? LMFAO! what long athletes do the rockets have?? And bringing up one game from a player that was REALLY bad for 90% of the postseason isn't winning you any arguments bro

[duncan2k5]

This is the second game in a row where hes had back to back to back turnovers
Not something I normally keep track of but I dont ever really noticing a player doing this before
And I watch a looooooooooooooooooot of basketball

Happened a lot vs the Warriors last year and the heat in our first finals matchup

[duncan2k5]

he's good for a decent game every now and then, but he's washed up. If you can't see that, you need some glasses

EXACTLY

[duncan2k5]

Currently 3rd best player after LMA and Rudy, tbh...

Testament more to how bad we are than to how good he is

[Pocho La Pantera]

He's fucking 40, you shouldn't be playing him every single game.

[Phenomanul]

For those that have watched the Spurs for over 20 years. Those familiar with their sets and their offense - the tweeks and wrinkles of each play something really stands out this season. For the first time in a long time Manu’s been thrust into a role where he shares the floor with 3-4 other players that have less than 2 years experience in the Spurs offense. You can tell because he is more frequently having to wave his hands to tell his teammates where they should be on the floor. As a consequence the play always seems like it is lagging. When Manu plays with the Spurs veterans it is evident to me that the execution is far more crisp and less likely to end up as a turnover.

I can’t recall how many times I see him on the floor with combinations involving Gay, Murray, Forbes, Lauvergne, Bertans, and Paul. Most of his turnovers have piled up in those minutes. I have also noticed that this dynamic also affects Gasol. So even though he is a relative newcomer to the Spurs offense his BBall IQ is high enough to execute properly. Sharing the floor with the Newbies club however also detrimentally impacts his game.

[dabom]

ok homer glasses on. understood. I don't want to cite stats bc the quality of this forum has been shit but you know.

Stats isn't on your side. :lmao

Trust me on this one. :lol

[UZER]

Currently 3rd best player after LMA and Rudy, tbh...

Sad

[TheGreatYacht]

Who's been worse than him? You could argue Hilliard or Bertans, but it'd be a close one between them 3 scrubs.

[SAGirl]

He's fucking 40, you shouldn't be playing him every single game.
I agree.

[SAGirl]

Manu currently 40% FG
10.5PER
ORTg 94 DRtg 105
more TO than assists
Advanced stats aren’t kind to him either currently 8th there in the team
obpm -2.5 Dbpm -0.7 BPM -3.2 VORP -0.1

[DAF86]

Wait... This is your example? LMFAO! what long athletes do the rockets have?? And bringing up one game from a player that was REALLY bad for 90% of the postseason isn't winning you any arguments bro

Dude you said:


I dont trust Manu at his age vs the teams we need to beat... The better teams have long athletes that constantly pick him off for dunks on the other end... Against bottom dwellers? He looks fine... At times...

I guess San Antonio didn't need to beat Houston on that game. :lol

And what the fuck does it matter if Manu was bad on 90% of the playoffs? He appeared on the one game that made the difference between winning or losing a playoffs round. I don't know what more can you ask from a 40 year old role player with one of the cheapest contracts on the roster. Manu has always had this way of not doing his best vs team that we should beat no matter what and then showing up when he is trully needed. And he did it again last season.

The point is this: You said you didn't trust Manu against the teams we needed to beat, and the reality is that on the previous season he came up big on the biggest game of the entire last season. So your theory or fear is unwarranted, tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

LEAVE MANU ALONE!

[ElNono]

Manu currently 40% FG
10.5PER
ORTg 94 DRtg 105
more TO than assists
Advanced stats aren’t kind to him either currently 8th there in the team
obpm -2.5 Dbpm -0.7 BPM -3.2 VORP -0.1









small sample size, plus his usage is up due to the injuries.... after LMA, he's the main reason Rudy Gay is having a resurgence off the bench, and the bench itself is helping this team be over .500, tbh...

no homer take, tbh, just the facts...

I actually expected much more from the starters, but without Kawhi's the bench becomes much more prominent.

[SAGirl]

small sample size, plus his usage is up due to the injuries.... after LMA, he's the main reason Rudy Gay is having a resurgence off the bench, and the bench itself is helping this team be over .500, tbh...

no homer take, tbh, just the facts...

I actually expected much more from the starters, but without Kawhi's the bench becomes much more prominent.
Happy Thanksgiving dude. The #playerfan be with you.
He’s got a lot of upside still tbh, but the floor is right now very low when he’s not.

[TheGreatYacht]

LEAVE MANU ALONE!
Nope. That illegal has to go back, as do you, Fernando.

[ElNono]

Happy Thanksgiving dude. The #playerfan be with you.
He’s got a lot of upside still tbh, but the floor is right now very low when he’s not.

:lol happy thanksgiving!

[duncan2k5]

For those that have watched the Spurs for over 20 years. Those familiar with their sets and their offense - the tweeks and wrinkles of each play something really stands out this season. For the first time in a long time Manu’s been thrust into a role where he shares the floor with 3-4 other players that have less than 2 years experience in the Spurs offense. You can tell because he is more frequently having to wave his hands to tell his teammates where they should be on the floor. As a consequence the play always seems like it is lagging. When Manu plays with the Spurs veterans it is evident to me that the execution is far more crisp and less likely to end up as a turnover.

I can’t recall how many times I see him on the floor with combinations involving Gay, Murray, Forbes, Lauvergne, Bertans, and Paul. Most of his turnovers have piled up in those minutes. I have also noticed that this dynamic also affects Gasol. So even though he is a relative newcomer to the Spurs offense his BBall IQ is high enough to execute properly. Sharing the floor with the Newbies club however also detrimentally impacts his game.

He turned the ball over a sh*t ton vs golden state and Cleveland the past several years... He is just turnover prone... Always been, and it has gotten worse in his old age...

[duncan2k5]

Dude you said:



I guess San Antonio didn't need to beat Houston on that game. :lol

And what the fuck does it matter if Manu was bad on 90% of the playoffs? He appeared on the one game that made the difference between winning or losing a playoffs round. I don't know what more can you ask from a 40 year old role player with one of the cheapest contracts on the roster. Manu has always had this way of not doing his best vs team that we should beat no matter what and then showing up when he is trully needed. And he did it again last season.

The point is this: You said you didn't trust Manu against the teams we needed to beat, and the reality is that on the previous season he came up big on the biggest game of the entire last season. So your theory or fear is unwarranted, tbh.

Houston is a threat to you? LMFAO! the teams we need to beat are the ones that constantly stand in our way for a ring... Warriors, (used to be clippers), Thunder... Every other team used to be a cakewalk, tbh... No one expected to lose vs the freaking grizzlies in the first round, or the rockets who have harden who constantly chokes in the playoffs and don't play d... Come on now... And I'll add Cleveland to that list too

[DAF86]

Houston is a threat to you? LMFAO! the teams we need to beat are the ones that constantly stand in our way for a ring... Warriors, (used to be clippers), Thunder... Every other team used to be a cakewalk, tbh... No one expected to lose vs the freaking grizzlies in the first round, or the rockets who have harden who constantly chokes in the playoffs and don't play d... Come on now... And I'll add Cleveland to that list too

Ok, so I guess that that game that was the differemce between winning and losing the series didn't count. :lol

Anyway, here you have 40 year old Manu against the Warriors:

PqAqZ2t1Ppw

[hater]

Fukeen guatemalans

[Phenomanul]

He turned the ball over a sh*t ton vs golden state and Cleveland the past several years... He is just turnover prone... Always been, and it has gotten worse in his old age...

He's always had a good AST/TO ratio. Not this year - his metrics even last year were noticeably better. Manu is simply taking one for the team and trying to make San Antonio's prospects better EVEN when it costs him his own numbers. You can't see beyond your hatred and so watching the game with all its intricacies is probably something you've never done.

[Ice009]

Man, I am sorry, Manu is one of my favourite players ever (would have been number 2 after TD if it wasn't for 2013 - that game 6 still pisses me off), but why do Argentine posters stick up for him no matter what?

I'm from Australia and you don't see me sticking up for Mills just because he's Australian. I don't give a fuck where you're from, if you're playing like shit, then I will call you out on it. Manu is not having a good season. His turnovers are becoming very costly. If he can't play without turning the ball over, he needs to be benched. He's supposed to be the steady veteran hand guiding the young guys, not the guy leading the turnover parade. I know Manu's play style over the years leads to turnovers, but that's not what the team needs out of him. The Spurs shouldn't have re-signed him if he didn't have much left in the tank.

All I want from him right now is to stop turning the ball over.

[SAGirl]

Man, I am sorry, Manu is one of my favourite players ever (would have been number 2 after TD if it wasn't for 2013 - that game 6 still pisses me off), but why do Argentine posters stick up for him no matter what?

I'm from Australia and you don't see me sticking up for Mills just because he's Australian. I don't give a fuck where you're from, if you're playing like shit, then I will call you out on it and I have no problem trading or cutting you. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT where you're from. Manu is not having a good season. His turnovers are becoming very costly. If he can't play without turning the ball over, he needs to be benched. He's supposed to be the steady veteran hand guiding the young guys, not the guy leading the turnover parade. I know Manu's play style over the years leads to turnovers, but that's not what the team needs out of him. The Spurs shouldn't have re-signed him if he didn't have much left in the tank.

He used to be able to make up for it with how great he was at everything else. He can't make up for his mistakes now. The team just can't afford it. Two games he's had 3 or 4 TO in the span of 4 minutes or so. In the OKC game he was benched for the 2nd Q and that is when the team made a run. Eventually Manu came back in that game in the second half and he was better, but Pop had him off the ball and ran stuff through other people. In the Pelicans game, the team's shooters (Mills and Danny, as well as Forbes, and everyone not named Gasol) were off, so the team couldn't make a come back after Manu threw the ball away 3 times and caused a shot clock violation in the span of 3 or 4 minutes too. Manu wasn't good. He was good against the Hawks, and he's had a few good games, so I don't want to paint a completely bleak picture, but he definitely hasn't been playing well. That is why I say he's got some upside if he's having a good game, but when he's bad, he's really really bad.

Hate to criticize Manu harshly bc he's 40. Pop has to know he's just old. The younger guys have a short leash, Manu at this point needs a leash with the bad plays too.

[DAF86]

Man, I am sorry, Manu is one of my favourite players ever (would have been number 2 after TD if it wasn't for 2013 - that game 6 still pisses me off), but why do Argentine posters stick up for him no matter what?

I'm from Australia and you don't see me sticking up for Mills just because he's Australian. I don't give a fuck where you're from, if you're playing like shit, then I will call you out on it. Manu is not having a good season. His turnovers are becoming very costly. If he can't play without turning the ball over, he needs to be benched. He's supposed to be the steady veteran hand guiding the young guys, not the guy leading the turnover parade. I know Manu's play style over the years leads to turnovers, but that's not what the team needs out of him. The Spurs shouldn't have re-signed him if he didn't have much left in the tank.

All I want from him right now is to stop turning the ball over.

I only stood up for him when somebody makes a stupid claim like "I don't trust Manu against the teams we need to beat".

You will also see me stood up for Danny Green, but he isn't Argentinian, is he? I have a thing against retarded opinions that don't relate to reality, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

I only stood up for him when somebody makes a stupid claim like "I don't trust Manu against the teams we need to beat".

You will also see me stood up for Danny Green, but he isn't Argentinian, is he? I have a thing against retarded opinions that don't relate to reality, tbh.

I also think Manu does things that don't show up on the stat sheet that helped give our team some life several times this year. For a 40 year old that ain't too bad.

He does tend to show up when we need him. If some of these other younger guys were more reliable (ahem, Murray) he wouldn't have to be relied on as much

[Ice009]

I only stood up for him when somebody makes a stupid claim like "I don't trust Manu against the teams we need to beat".

You will also see me stood up for Danny Green, but he isn't Argentinian, is he? I have a thing against retarded opinions that don't relate to reality, tbh.

Fair enough, I do now recall you standing up for Danny Green, so my assumption was wrong on you at least. I don't normally read much of the Manu hate threads since I'm a big fan of his, but the little I do read, it feels/seems like some of the Argentine posters stick up for him no matter what. I hardly ever see some of them criticizing him for bad play.

[duncan2k5]

He's always had a good AST/TO ratio. Not this year - his metrics even last year were noticeably better. Manu is simply taking one for the team and trying to make San Antonio's prospects better EVEN when it costs him his own numbers. You can't see beyond your hatred and so watching the game with all its intricacies is probably something you've never done.

Hatred? Manu has been one of my favorites for YEARS! im just a spurs fan more than im a manu fan, and im not gonna have our team do worse for the sake of seeing manu play as a 40 year old

[ElNono]

Hatred? Manu has been one of my favorites for YEARS! im just a spurs fan more than im a manu fan, and im not gonna have our team do worse for the sake of seeing manu play as a 40 year old

that's the problem right there, it's just you that needs to change, tbh...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

His splits when having 0/1 day rest vs having 2+ days rest between games are really telling and not surprising at his age. No need to hate on the guy, when Kawhi comes back it'll allow Pop to give him more rest and get the best out of him.

[TMTTRIO]

Well hopefully with TP coming back Manu can just sit back and coach the young guys. They originally said at the beginning of the season they were bringing him back as a player coach

[kuato]

Well hopefully with TP coming back Manu can just sit back and coach the young guys. They originally said at the beginning of the season they were bringing him back as a player coach

Indeed, that was the idea... but kiwi and "Mr your wife is mine" got hurt.

[TheDoctor]

...and "Mr your wife is mine" got hurt.
:lol

[Play Boban]

"Mr your wife is mine" got hurt.
:lol

[Prose]

Shut the fuck up with this put some respect on his name for what he is done. You’ll get your wish soon enough. Shut up in the mean time.

[kuato]

This deserves a bump

[dbestpro]

Manu's heart has kept the Spurs out of the lottery this year. Amazing for a player of his age, and at the position he plays.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Manu's heart has kept the Spurs out of the lottery this year. Amazing for a player of his age, and at the position he plays.

No one plays with more heart than Manu. His skills may be fading, but the dude digs deep when it matters. That killer instinct and desire is what propelled the Big 3 to four titles together. Manu, Tim and Tony all have that. It's that next gear that only the elite can tap into.

[hater]

We almost miss the playoffs because we are giving this mummy major minutes

Surprising spurs fans celebrate mediocrity tbqh

He will be one of the worst playoffs players again like last year and hopefully it will be his last

[Canyonero]

OP is the biggest puto in this site tbh

[Play Boban]

At least Manu plays for the team, which is more than I can say for Kawhi.....tbh.

[hater]

OP is the biggest puto in this site tbh

Yet next year when he retired you will not post here again :lmao

[Canyonero]

Yet next year when he retired you will not post here again :lmao

Wanna bet $20M?

[Pocho La Pantera]

Yet next year when he retired you will not post here again :lmao sadly you will still be posting.

[hater]

Wanna bet $20M?

20 million salvadorean dollars? What would I want with the equivalent of 8bucks?

[TheGreatYacht]

Yet next year when he retired you will not post here again :lmao

20 million salvadorean dollars? What would I want with the equivalent of 8bucks?
:lmao

[DAF86]

20 million salvadorean dollars? What would I want with the equivalent of 8bucks?

Get back to Bolivia and own the country?

[ElNono]

Get back to Bolivia and own the country?

damn :lol

[kuato]

¡Spurs needs campazzo! at least for a cupple of years... way better player than Laprovittola

[spursmvp]

We almost miss the playoffs because we are giving this mummy major minutes

Surprising spurs fans celebrate mediocrity tbqh

He will be one of the worst playoffs players again like last year and hopefully it will be his last

We almost miss the playoffs because our max player continues to rehab his vagina.

[tholdren]

We almost miss the playoffs because we are giving this mummy major minutes

Surprising spurs fans celebrate mediocrity tbqh

He will be one of the worst playoffs players again like last year and hopefully it will be his last

Hater crapping the bed worse than kawhi with this per usual

[gambit1990]

OP is a joke :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

hater :wow

This crooked nosed salvadorean just sealed our fate in the first round. That wall can't be built soon enough.

[SuperCam]

hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) :wow

This crooked nosed salvadorean just sealed our fate in the first round. That wall can't be built soon enough.

could have had lottery pick instead smh

[ElNono]

better than Lonzo

[hater]

hater :wow

This crooked nosed salvadorean just sealed our fate in the first round. That wall can't be built soon enough.

Yup called this :tu

Thankfully he has 4 and 1/2 games left in his career

[Brunodf]

Tanking to take out injured GSW tbh 4d chess

[DAF86]

hater :wow

This crooked nosed salvadorean just sealed our fate in the first round. That wall can't be built soon enough.

Just got home. What happened?

[ElNono]

Just got home. What happened?

He had a rare bad moment, tbh... Pop decided to rest him for the playoffs in the 2nd half...

[TheGreatYacht]

Just got home. What happened?
He was so bad in the first half, Pop brought Brandon Paul out. Possibly the worst half any Spur has had this season

[hater]

Told ya homies

4 more games of this trainwreck

[Phenomanul]

He was so bad in the first half, Pop brought Brandon Paul out. Possibly the worst half any Spur has had this season

Exaggerate much? :lol

Everyone knows your narrative is trollish, but c'mon... statements like those are ridiculous...

I can recall several 0'fers over the course of this season for other players wearing the silver and black that more fittingly wear that title...

[rjv]

this is what we get with manu now. there are nights where he is one of the main reasons we win and then there are games where is one of the main reasons we lost. the difference now is that when he has a good game it is just good, not great and when he has a bad game it is awful.

[hater]

this is what we get with manu now. there are nights where he is one of the main reasons we win and then there are games where is one of the main reasons we lost. the difference now is that when he has a good game it is just good, not great and when he has a bad game it is awful.

This has been the case for many many years

Most notoriously the fated game 6 vs Heat

That is why I have been rooting for his retirement. A real team cannot succeed with that kind of inconsistency

[DaBears]

I'd take Manu over TP.. Its time for TP to go, really i hear fans saying Manu contributes more than TP. So if anyone has to go & hang it up it would be TP. Manu still has an affect on the game and provides a spark that few players can have.

[Play Boban]

this is what we get with manu now. there are nights where he is one of the main reasons we win and then there are games where is one of the main reasons we lost. the difference now is that when he has a good game it is just good, not great and when he has a bad game it is awful.

:cry

Meanwhile, Porker is just awful every game and Kawhi refuses to play despite his massive cap hit tbh.

[Play Boban]

This has been the case for many many years

Most notoriously the fated game 6 vs Heat

That is why I have been rooting for his retirement. A real team cannot succeed with that kind of inconsistency

If you bring up game 6, I bring up another 6. 6/23. Read it and weep!!!!

"They're leaving Danny open!!!" :cry

[SAGirl]

this is what we get with manu now. there are nights where he is one of the main reasons we win and then there are games where is one of the main reasons we lost. the difference now is that when he has a good game it is just good, not great and when he has a bad game it is awful.
true but PATFO is the one responsible for this by not really upgrading their guards.
At least he occasionally can have good games, others can't do that even occasionally.

[DaBears]

We do realize here we are complaining about a team that is making the playoff's right.. Only 1 of 32 teams will win it all.. This team is far from perfect, but they put a winning product on the floor 99% of the time.. So lets enjoy and be supportive.. 1 sub-par season out of 21 is not that bad.. This year was a wash due to injuries, scrape it they will be even better next.
It could always be worse, like PHX or SAC worse.. SPURS could only surprise us at this point.

[hater]

Im all for parker retiring too

Clean house

[TheGreatYacht]

Illegal aliens bringing up Parker in a Manure thread :lol

Thats how you know who has the greater legacy. Parker gets compared to the best PG's in the game. Manure gets compared to Parker.

Not shocking since Manure doesn't even have a better career than Lou Williams, much less a Top 5 PG of all time :lmao

[tholdren]

this is what we get with manu now. there are nights where he is one of the main reasons we win and then there are games where is one of the main reasons we lost. the difference now is that when he has a good game it is just good, not great and when he has a bad game it is awful.

Man u dumb

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Illegal aliens bringing up Parker in a Manure thread :lol

Thats how you know who has the greater legacy. Parker gets compared to the best PG's in the game. Manure gets compared to Parker.

Not shocking since Manure doesn't even have a better career than Lou Williams, much less a Top 5 PG of all time :lmao

Tell that to Manu's gold medal. Leading Argentina to gold in the era of the dream teams more or less secures his legacy in basketball.

[ElNono]

Tell that to Manu's gold medal. Leading Argentina to gold in the era of the dream teams more or less secures his legacy in basketball.

Beating Duncan in his prime :wow

[gambit1990]

Told ya homies

4 more games of this trainwreck
:lol

[daledondale]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/KeenFlawlessAtlanticsharpnosepuffer-size_restricted.gif

[BackHome]

Hater all up on Kawhi nuts suprised he has time to be able to post.