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dabom
11-17-2017, 11:13 PM
which issues are not so important. What issues you 100% cannot change and which issues you don't mind going either way. Real talk. No pandering. No deep thoughts or discussions.

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:15 PM
If you had one issue you could 100% change to your liking. What would it be?

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:17 PM
I'll go as a Democrat. Economy. It affects everyone. Tax cuts to the rich never works.

DarrinS
11-17-2017, 11:18 PM
I don’t care about the geys or weed or abortion. I want the economy to be strong, borders secure, and my kids to have opportunities, despite being intelligent and white.

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:19 PM
I don’t care about the geys or weed or abortion. I want the economy to be strong, borders secure, and my kids to have opportunities, despite being intelligent and white.

I agree with the economy issue. Do you think Obama did a bad job there? And are you for Republican tax cuts?

DarrinS
11-17-2017, 11:25 PM
I agree with the economy issue. Do you think Obama did a bad job there? And are you for Republican tax cuts?


Yes.

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:27 PM
Yes.

But the economy was great when it got handed off and Trump hasn't done any major tax legislature. This economy is from Obama. That's fact. Help me out. I'm not understanding.

DarrinS
11-17-2017, 11:29 PM
But the economy was great when it got handed off and Trump hasn't done any major tax legislature. This economy is from Obama. That's fact. Help me out. I'm not understanding.

I can see that you’re not understanding.

Has the economy improved since orange Hitler took over?

I paid the IRS over 100k last year. Fuck that, tbh.

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:32 PM
I can see that you’re not understanding.

Has the economy improved since orange Hitler took over?

I paid the IRS over 100k last year. Fuck that, tbh.

Yes the economy has rising. But the economy was already at that same trajectory before Trump was in office. And Trump hasn't put anything legislature. What has he done specifically?

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:40 PM
If you don't want to answer, you don't need to. This thread was a little discussion thread to begin with.

DarrinS
11-17-2017, 11:41 PM
Yes the economy has rising. But the economy was already at that same trajectory before Trump was in office. And Trump hasn't put anything legislature. What has he done specifically?

I would agree with that. Mostly, he’s undone restrictive regulatory burdens through executive action.

Are you worried that this tarnishes the coolness of Obama’s mom jeans?

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:45 PM
I would agree with that. Mostly, he’s undone restrictive regulatory burdens through executive action.

Are you worried that this tarnishes the coolness of Obama’s mom jeans?

We'll start to see those affects in the future. But the big stuff hasn't happened yet (tax cuts to the rich). Those will take a couple of years to take affect too. We also had major tax cuts under bush and deregulation and 2 wars and we got sent into a depression by Bush jr.

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:46 PM
The same stuff Trump is trying to do right now.

koriwhat
11-17-2017, 11:48 PM
If you had one issue you could 100% change to your liking. What would it be?

the hoax of Political Correctness.

DMC
11-17-2017, 11:48 PM
The same stuff Trump is trying to do right now.

:lol :lol you faggot

koriwhat
11-17-2017, 11:51 PM
lmao this went from "No deep thoughts or discussions" and spiraled quickly to trump trump trump. what's the agenda here exactly?

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:53 PM
lmao this went from "No deep thoughts or discussions" and spiraled quickly to trump trump trump. what's the agenda here exactly?

We'll we are talking about the US Economy. Of course the president's agenda is gonna be the talking point faggot. :lmao

DMC
11-17-2017, 11:55 PM
We'll we are talking about the US Economy. Of course the president's agenda is gonna be the talking point faggot. :lmao

:lol wrong faggot

:lol you're so fucking stupid

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:56 PM
the hoax of Political Correctness.

This doesn't make sense. :lol

We are discussing which issue a person feels the strongest about. WTF are you going on about? :lol :lol

dabom
11-17-2017, 11:56 PM
:lol :lol you faggot


:lol wrong faggot

:lol you're so fucking stupid

look, chubby, you're not making any sense either. :lol :lol

koriwhat
11-17-2017, 11:59 PM
We'll we are talking about the US Economy. Of course the president's agenda is gonna be the talking point faggot. :lmao

uh, i think PC is a pretty big issue that most aren't willing to speak about. it's def what started this whole mess to begin with many many moons ago. feelings, fuck em!


This doesn't make sense. :lol

We are discussing which issue a person feels the strongest about. WTF are you going on about? :lol :lol

you can't play dumb, come on now. this is exactly what yall do to me except in this case you are playing dumb where as i was simply stating my stance to not pick a side because both suck. you sir, however, do have an agenda.

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:01 AM
OK so both are bad. :lol

I got you. :lol

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:02 AM
DMC got any issues he could change with the US?

spurraider21
11-18-2017, 12:05 AM
the hoax of Political Correctness.
:lol nonpartisan naturally assumes a thread addressing Republicans refers to him

DMC
11-18-2017, 12:10 AM
DMC got any issues he could change with the US?

Yeah, ban faggots like you from faggoting up the place :lol

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:12 AM
Yeah, ban faggots like you from faggoting up the place :lol

I have respect for Darrin. We don't agree on how the economy works, but the man at least has a belief. Some of ya are so beyond recognition.

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 12:17 AM
:lol nonpartisan naturally assumes a thread addressing Republicans refers to him

you naturally assume you're right about everything. the disease has engulfed you and every fiber of your being. so sad.

as well, threads are here for everyone. you don't want me responding? ignore me or quit ST. it's very simple to remedy.

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:18 AM
People that do the most talking don't have any stances for anything. Typical.

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 12:20 AM
People that do the most talking don't have any stances for anything. Typical.

my stance is not to put all your eggs in one basket. politics isn't bball and yet yall act like rabid fans. disgusting.

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:24 AM
I hope Chris can atleast muster up an issue he cares about.

Chris
11-18-2017, 12:24 AM
Yeah, ban faggots like you from faggoting up the place :lol

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Chris
11-18-2017, 12:25 AM
I hope Chris can atleast muster up an issue he cares about.

You set your parameters in the OP. "No deep thoughts or discussions." Have fun :tu

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 12:26 AM
People that do the most talking don't have any stances for anything. Typical.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/al-franken-11x-ap-jc-171116_16x9t_240.jpg

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 12:27 AM
You set your parameters in the OP. "No deep thoughts or discussions." Have fun :tu

exactly!

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:28 AM
So only one republican has a stance and everyone is a beta cuck. :lol

DMC
11-18-2017, 12:32 AM
I have respect for Darrin. We don't agree on how the economy works, but the man at least has a belief. Some of ya are so beyond recognition.

Riiiight, and you're an engineer! :lol

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:33 AM
Riiiight, and you're an engineer! :lol

And you're fat. :lol

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:34 AM
We're stating the obvious right? :lol

DMC
11-18-2017, 12:37 AM
And you're fat. :lol

Your lying in both events!

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:38 AM
Your lying in both events!

:lmao :lmao

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:39 AM
Can Kawhi come back already? I don't want to be downstairs anymore. :lol

CosmicCowboy
11-18-2017, 12:40 AM
Well, you guys,think I'm a republican becayse I crap on a lot of your socialist ideals so I will go.

1) I want our military to get out of every shithole third world county in the world. Fuck them. We can't fix our own shit, much less theirs.

2) I want to teach my kids and grandkids to learn a skill to survive in the new reality. Middle class jobs are going away. Hell, tech algoriths and the big 4 tech goliaths are going to eat jobs like pakman.

3) politicians suck no matter what party. Doesnt matter. What does Boukaki say? Something about fucked and unfuckable? Meh. Potato potahto. My kids will be fine but I fear for my grandkids. I tbink the great democratic experiment is doomed to eventually go down in flames.

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:43 AM
Well, you guys,think I'm a republican becayse I crap on a lot of your socialist ideals so I will go.

1) I want our military to get out of every shithole third world county in the world. Fuck them. We can't fix our own shit, much less theirs.

2) I want to teach my kids and grandkids to learn a skill to survive in the new reality. Middle class jobs are going away. Hell, tech algoriths and the big 4 tech goliaths are going to eat jobs like pakman.

You know the US profits from Globalization right? Why do you think theres always that joke "maybe they need some freedom over there" when they find some resource the US can exploit. :lol

The US is protecting their interests. You're giving Russia/China the head start on these issues. This isn't gonna happen anytime soon.

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:46 AM
I'd like to add that Cosmic gets my respect too. :tu

Chris
11-18-2017, 12:49 AM
1.) End the Federal Banking System
2.) Eliminate Income Taxes
3.) Bring our troops home
4.) Amend the Constitution applying term limits to Congress
5.) Cut funding for Planned Parenthood

I'll post more later.

dabom
11-18-2017, 12:52 AM
1.) End the Federal Banking System
2.) Eliminate Income Taxes
3.) Bring our troops home
4.) Amend the Constitution applying term limits to Congress
5.) Cut funding for Planned Parenthood

I'll post more later.

How do you expect the US to run? Does it pay for itself?

sickdsm
11-18-2017, 10:47 AM
I'd like to add that Cosmic gets my respect too. :tu

Cosmic doesn't sound like a conservative to me. Douchebags in here can't tell the difference between libetarian leaning and your 78 yr old grandpa that leaves fox news on 24/7.

Spurminator
11-18-2017, 10:49 AM
and my kids to have opportunities, despite being intelligent and white.

:lmao :lmao

dabom
11-18-2017, 11:07 AM
Cosmic doesn't sound like a conservative to me. Douchebags in here can't tell the difference between libetarian leaning and your 78 yr old grandpa that leaves fox news on 24/7.

He replied on his own accord. I've seen his record. Dude is republican.

CosmicCowboy
11-18-2017, 11:22 AM
He replied on his own accord. I've seen his record. Dude is republican.
i dont toe either party line. Just because im more centrist than your self professed "democratic socialist" that doesnt make me a republican.

dabom
11-18-2017, 11:51 AM
i dont toe either party line. Just because im more centrist than your self professed "democratic socialist" that doesnt make me a republican.

You identified with the topic. A lot of people say they aren't republicans when they are 100%.

boutons_deux
11-18-2017, 11:54 AM
Libertarians are frauds, oligarchy-whored Repugs masquerading behind different name.

DMC
11-18-2017, 12:06 PM
Until people stop giving a shit about the latest 'victim" of whatever micro transgression to find fashion, the spiral will continue. Virtue signaling among the social media crowd has created a system where finding flaws in other people and amplifying them ad nauseum is interesting. The entire country above the middle class line has become a real life version of Housewives. It's a bickering contest where everyone on the show has a bone to pick and if they don't, they'll dig and poke until they find one.

This is what happens when paid law firms and hired contractors do nothing but dig for dirt on people, when incentives are offered for telling anything about anyone.

Everyone's information is out there, all someone has to do is rise to the level where anyone gives a shit to read about you, then you're fucked as soon as you have an opinion that affects someone else's bottom line.

Some of this is due to the concept of being paid for views or clicks. Any story that generates clicks now generates money. The more shit you can sling out there on anyone, the more money you'll make. So the wealthy are eating each other. When it all settles down, they'll all still be the wealthy, with some rehab, and they'll toast over dinner about how cool these days were, when Harvey across the table, sitting next to Bill Cosby, was the talk of the town.

boutons_deux
11-18-2017, 12:09 PM
no question about what dictates the Repug political class. eg, see their budgets, Trumpcare(s), tax cuts plans, and Exec branch kakistocracy.

AaronY
11-18-2017, 01:45 PM
no question about what dictates the Repug political class. eg, see their budgets, Trumpcare(s), tax cuts plans, and Exec branch kakistocracy.

You're anti-Republican, right?

baseline bum
11-18-2017, 02:05 PM
Until people stop giving a shit about the latest 'victim" of whatever micro transgression to find fashion, the spiral will continue. Virtue signaling among the social media crowd has created a system where finding flaws in other people and amplifying them ad nauseum is interesting. The entire country above the middle class line has become a real life version of Housewives. It's a bickering contest where everyone on the show has a bone to pick and if they don't, they'll dig and poke until they find one.

This is what happens when paid law firms and hired contractors do nothing but dig for dirt on people, when incentives are offered for telling anything about anyone.

Everyone's information is out there, all someone has to do is rise to the level where anyone gives a shit to read about you, then you're fucked as soon as you have an opinion that affects someone else's bottom line.

Some of this is due to the concept of being paid for views or clicks. Any story that generates clicks now generates money. The more shit you can sling out there on anyone, the more money you'll make. So the wealthy are eating each other. When it all settles down, they'll all still be the wealthy, with some rehab, and they'll toast over dinner about how cool these days were, when Harvey across the table, sitting next to Bill Cosby, was the talk of the town.

I'd hardly consider pedophilia a micro transgression.

pgardn
11-18-2017, 02:07 PM
1. Economy. (Focus on the individual achieving and actually contributing to the economy)
( Focus on job creation by businesses, large and small allowing individuals to contribute; really trickle down but dont embrace the phrase)

2. Role of government (don't fiddle with the economy thru taxes etc... ; keep strong defense; keep immigration to a minimum; keep law and order capable of performing their duty; 2nd amendment broad interpretation; keep job creation to the private sector)

3. Education (Privatize)

4. Health Care. (Too much spending due to all parties involved; individuals taking advantage emphasis; make it private as much as possible and costs will go down)

5. Abortion (end it)

6. Foreign affairs. ( very contentious at this time; strong defense but much debate on isolationist attitude )

Lots more

ex....stricter interpretation of constitution; emphasis on individual responsibility in all aspects of life

Of course one will find much less enthusiasm on some parts compared to others depending on your taste.

Democrats next?
You need to ask because you don't know OP.
And no I would not consider myself a Republican.

Chucho
11-18-2017, 10:15 PM
You identified with the topic. A lot of people say they aren't republicans when they are 100%.

And some people suddenly start coming down here looking for a pat on the back and when they can't get it, they fall in with Avante.

DMC
11-18-2017, 10:34 PM
I'd hardly consider pedophilia a micro transgression.

You do understand that pedophilia involves prepubescent children, right?

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 10:41 PM
He replied on his own accord. I've seen his record. Dude is republican.

dude knows it all... thats the problem with sjw socialists.


You identified with the topic. A lot of people say they aren't republicans when they are 100%.

dude knows it all... thats the problem with sjw socialists.


Libertarians are frauds, oligarchy-whored Repugs masquerading behind different name.

dude knows it all... thats the problem with sjw socialists.

DMC
11-18-2017, 10:51 PM
1. Economy: Private business is the key to the economy. For that to prosper there has to be incentive to stay in this country. Otherwise Americans get nothing from the business while the business owner gets everything from America, because it's legal.

2. Role of government: Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blah blah blah. The role of government isn't to guarantee our success whether or not we want it. We should still be able to fail if we don't work to succeed. That goes for big car companies, banks, and people who spend their entire lives mooching off the assistance programs.

3. Education More money to public schools. Private schools are ok, but should not be publicly funded.

4. Health Care. Depends on which group of people you're referring to. Young people don't want to pay anything because they don't use it. That's ok. If you passed on it for 10 years as a young adult, you should not get full benefits as soon as you enroll when you have a medical issue. You should have to become vested. If a young adult enrolls right away, they can be vested right away. I don't care for forcing anyone to enroll however.

5. Abortion: I am against abortion but it's not my body. It's a hard call, but not mine to make. It should be legal but counseling should be offered. Making it illegal just makes it dangerous but still will happen.

6. Foreign affairs: If they aren't our affairs we need to stay out of it. I'm ok with foreign relations but not foreign meddling. I don't fully understand the ramifications of changing the status quo, however from a layman's perspective we need to right our ship before we start pulling another one.

7: Gun control: I am ok with background checks prior to buying a gun. I am ok with the waiting period. I am ok with the NFA laws. I'll roll with whatever congress cranks out regarding firearms. I believe the 2nd Amendment means what it says, however I am not married to the gun culture even though I own several. I wouldn't hold my vote back based on fear of gun control.

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 11:00 PM
not anything other than i suppose a libertarian of sorts but here goes nothing.

1. don't care about gun control past its current inception/laws.
2. abortion. don't care.
3. fuck the 1% and break up all monopolies!
4. fuck the 1% and make these hacks stop offshore money holes and tax havens.
5. mental health care. better more caring doctors who have to hear you out before prescribing medication.
6. big pharma needs to be overhauled!
7. no more bs chemicals in our food. fuck monsanto and the like!
8. fuck self driving cars.
9. fuck anonymity on the internet. this isn't because yall troll me but i think if you are going to act tough online then the person you obviously aren't scared of should know who you are without a guess.
10. regulate all social media platforms.
11. fuck this path to robotic takeover. it's getting ridiculous how much our world wants to become lazy shits and that's why we're almost at the verge of Idiocracy levels.
12. stop selling off our tech, our innovations, etc. fuck china and the like.
13. no more stupid fucking micro aggression bs, safe spaces, etc. fuck the lunacy that has taken over this country and the world alike.

there's plenty more i think of but whatever.

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 11:02 PM
ah yeah 1 more...

14. legalize all drugs. i don't par take but the idiots who want to od on heroin, meth, etc.... let em!

Quadzilla99
11-18-2017, 11:12 PM
I'd hardly consider pedophilia a micro transgression.


You do understand that pedophilia involves prepubescent children, right?

929586225295400960

Pavlov
11-18-2017, 11:13 PM
929586225295400960:lol

koriwhat
11-18-2017, 11:16 PM
15. no more funding the lives of known, without a doubt, pedos, murderers, and rapists in prison. kill em! rid our world of them all!

Chucho
11-18-2017, 11:30 PM
929586225295400960

:lol

DMC
11-19-2017, 12:00 AM
929586225295400960

So then if a child is molested, let's say a 5 year old, it should be equated to statutory rape?

I mean, I don't want to go against pixelated boat or anything.

sickdsm
11-19-2017, 12:03 AM
He replied on his own accord. I've seen his record. Dude is republican.


Like i said, douchebags in here.......

sickdsm
11-19-2017, 12:05 AM
You identified with the topic. A lot of people say they aren't republicans when they are 100%.

What's 100%? Maybe we can all fill out a ST questionnaire to see how many here are 100%

You have some criteria?

baseline bum
11-19-2017, 04:27 AM
You do understand that pedophilia involves prepubescent children, right?

Fine. I'd hardly consider trying to fuck kids a micro transgression.

Reck
11-19-2017, 05:08 AM
So then if a child is molested, let's say a 5 year old, it should be equated to statutory rape?

I mean, I don't want to go against pixelated boat or anything.

Look at you having a hard time coming to terms with your niche, DMC.

:lol is not pedophilia if you fuck a willing 14 year old

DMC out here arguing for pedophilia in two different threads. Not suspect at all.

dabom
11-19-2017, 09:59 AM
And some people suddenly start coming down here looking for a pat on the back and when they can't get it, they fall in with Avante.

Look, a personal fan. :lol

dabom
11-19-2017, 10:02 AM
What's 100%? Maybe we can all fill out a ST questionnaire to see how many here are 100%

You have some criteria?

Here's some questions.

Do you use the word "liberal"?

End questionnaire.

sickdsm
11-19-2017, 10:09 AM
Here's some questions.

Do you use the word "liberal"?

End questionnaire.

Yes I do. But here's a questionnaire for you. Do you know anyone who doesn't use the word liberal? Fun little tidbit, you can Google any one from the polar opposite of the conservative spectrum and they use that word. Shaun king liberal. This is one of the first hits.


heat for James Hodgkinson, he is almost instantly being called a liberal radical,” Mr. King said.


Try it with anyone.

dabom
11-19-2017, 10:10 AM
Yes I do. But here's a questionnaire for you. Do you know anyone who doesn't use the word liberal? Fun little tidbit, you can Google any one from the polar opposite of the conservative spectrum and they use that word. Shaun king liberal. This is one of the first hits.


heat for James Hodgkinson, he is almost instantly being called a liberal radical,” Mr. King said.


Try it with anyone.

No need to be ashamed. I'm glad I cleared that up for you. :tu

dabom
11-19-2017, 11:00 AM
not anything other than i suppose a libertarian of sorts but here goes nothing.

1. don't care about gun control past its current inception/laws.
2. abortion. don't care.
3. fuck the 1% and break up all monopolies!
4. fuck the 1% and make these hacks stop offshore money holes and tax havens.
5. mental health care. better more caring doctors who have to hear you out before prescribing medication.
6. big pharma needs to be overhauled!
7. no more bs chemicals in our food. fuck monsanto and the like!
8. fuck self driving cars.
9. fuck anonymity on the internet. this isn't because yall troll me but i think if you are going to act tough online then the person you obviously aren't scared of should know who you are without a guess.
10. regulate all social media platforms.
11. fuck this path to robotic takeover. it's getting ridiculous how much our world wants to become lazy shits and that's why we're almost at the verge of Idiocracy levels.
12. stop selling off our tech, our innovations, etc. fuck china and the like.
13. no more stupid fucking micro aggression bs, safe spaces, etc. fuck the lunacy that has taken over this country and the world alike.

there's plenty more i think of but whatever.

I'm all for fucking the 1%. But Republicans keep giving them tax cuts.

sickdsm
11-19-2017, 11:13 AM
No need to be ashamed. I'm glad I cleared that up for you. :tu
You avoided my question.

dabom
11-19-2017, 11:13 AM
Also I like to thank all people here who participated. I'll name mine.

1. Raise taxes on the rich. They are getting rich on the backs of the US government and Americans.
2. Healthcare for all.
3. Move towards cleaner energy resources. But to do this, the government needs to subsidize these pricier alternatives. But it also raises funding for better research and development that can lower costs in the future. The US needs to be the leader in Cleaner Energy if they want to retain their Apex status.

dabom
11-19-2017, 11:17 AM
You avoided my question.

Only republicans use that word. It's a great litmus test.

sickdsm
11-19-2017, 11:18 AM
I took this thread as you are only interested in what republicans think.

sickdsm
11-19-2017, 11:29 AM
Only republicans use that word. It's a great litmus test.

Everyone does. Should I find examples of Bernie, Hilary, Jill Green using the word liberal? Next thing your going to try to argue the context of the word......

dabom
11-19-2017, 11:40 AM
Everyone does. Should I find examples of Bernie, Hilary, Jill Green using the word liberal? Next thing your going to try to argue the context of the word......

I think you misunderstood the word "use".

Making "liberal" a main vocabulary is the context for "use".

Try to understand the difference. So, you will have everyone using the word, but not everyone making it their main vocabulary.

And yes, you will have some Liberals who use the word "liberals". :lol

It doesn't take away from the argument. :lol

DMC
11-19-2017, 12:35 PM
Fine. I'd hardly consider trying to fuck kids a micro transgression.

I wasn't referring to that. His accuser isn't writing a book or getting paid by a news outlet.

DMC
11-19-2017, 12:43 PM
Look at you having a hard time coming to terms with your niche, DMC.

:lol is not pedophilia if you fuck a willing 14 year old

DMC out here arguing for pedophilia in two different threads. Not suspect at all.

Pedophilia is a psychiatric clinical diagnosis that has to do with being attracted to prepubescent children. Seldom does a 14 yo fall into that category. Regardless, if the accusations are accurate, I would consider him a child predator, but I would not be able to comment as to his mental state when carrying out his sexual deviance.

That being the case, I am defining terms, not arguing for pedophilia, but keep your desperate narrative going, tranny.

boutons_deux
11-20-2017, 06:46 AM
5 times Republicans admitted they work for rich donors

Sometimes, they say it out loud

As we all know, there are two goals at the top of Republicans’ to-do list right now:


1. Kicking pedophiles out of their party.
2. Eschewing support from neo-Nazis.


Just kidding! They’re not doing either of those things.

In fact, Republicans are contorting themselves into all kinds of word and moral pretzels to defend pedophiles (https://americablog.com/2017/11/alabama-gop-now-openly-defending-pedophilia-defense-roy-moore.html) and racists (https://www.newsweek.com/deadly-silence-trump-and-neo-nazis-deeply-damaging-republicans-655894).

The GOP big tent is pretty much closed to Muslims and Mexicans, but come one, come all, fascists and sexual predators of every stripe!


1. New York Republican senator totally transparent about fear of losing rich backers.

While speaking with the press outside a House GOP conference last Tuesday, Chris Collins let slip why getting the Republican tax plan passed is so important to him.

“My donors are basically saying, ‘Get it done or don’t ever call me again (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/359110-gop-lawmaker-donors-are-pushing-me-to-get-tax-reform-done),’” Collins told reporters, according to the Hill.


2. Colorado senator all for having 32 million uninsured Americans (https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/19/news/economy/senate-repeal-bill-cbo/index.html), as long as the money keeps flowing.

Back in September, Colorado Senator Cory Gardner told colleagues the failure to dismantle the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, could mean big losses in contributions.

“Donors are furious (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/us/politics/republican-donors-obamacare-repeal.html?_r=0),” Gardner said, according to a New York Times report. “We haven’t kept our promise.”


3. Lindsey Graham says the party’s coffers are dependent on tax plan passing.

In addition to cautioning last month that Republicans will lose seats in the House and Senate (https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-tax-reform-impeach-trump-2017-10) if the GOP tax reform bill doesn’t pass, Senator Graham issued a more dire warning on Thursday.

"The party fractures, most incumbents in 2018 will get a severe primary challenge, a lot of them will probably lose, the base will fracture, the financial contributions will stop,” Graham said, “other than that it'll be fine."


4. Corporate behemoths love our tax plan, gushes Trump adviser.

Gary Cohn was the COO of Goldman Sachs for more than a decade before the administration brought him in to lead the National Economic Council.

“The most excited group out there are big CEOs (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/09/gary-cohn-trickle-down-is-good-for-the-economy.html), about our tax plan,” Cohn said during an interview with CNBC’s John Harwood.


Cohn: It's not our intention to give the wealthy a tax cut (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2017/11/10/the-finance-202-trickle-down-economics-is-back-at-least-according-to-gary-cohn/5a04c7b430fb045a2e002f74/?utm_term=.63bf2d72a7d8).

Harwood: But they're getting one.

Cohn: I don't believe that we've set out to create a tax cut for the wealthy. If someone's getting a tax cut, I'm not upset that they're getting a tax cut. I'm really not upset.


5. Another source confirms the health care bill was a show for big-money contributors.

“One Republican senator suggested that McConnell may ultimately decide to bring the bill up for another failed vote, in part to show GOP donors and President Donald Trump that the Senate GOP tried again (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/20/obamacare-repeal-senate-vote-graham-cassidy-242937),” Politico noted.

As long as they get an "A" for effort from donors, they’ll keep getting money for their campaigns.

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/20/5-times-republicans-admitted-they-work-for-rich-donors_partner/

The Princeton study on oligarchy showed the oligarchy get its preferences implemented 99% of the time, while citizens? 1%

Chucho
11-20-2017, 02:51 PM
5 times Republicans admitted they work for rich donors

Sometimes, they say it out loud

As we all know, there are two goals at the top of Republicans’ to-do list right now:


1. Kicking pedophiles out of their party.
2. Eschewing support from neo-Nazis.


Just kidding! They’re not doing either of those things.

In fact, Republicans are contorting themselves into all kinds of word and moral pretzels to defend pedophiles (https://americablog.com/2017/11/alabama-gop-now-openly-defending-pedophilia-defense-roy-moore.html) and racists (https://www.newsweek.com/deadly-silence-trump-and-neo-nazis-deeply-damaging-republicans-655894).

The GOP big tent is pretty much closed to Muslims and Mexicans, but come one, come all, fascists and sexual predators of every stripe!


1. New York Republican senator totally transparent about fear of losing rich backers.

While speaking with the press outside a House GOP conference last Tuesday, Chris Collins let slip why getting the Republican tax plan passed is so important to him.

“My donors are basically saying, ‘Get it done or don’t ever call me again (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/359110-gop-lawmaker-donors-are-pushing-me-to-get-tax-reform-done),’” Collins told reporters, according to the Hill.


2. Colorado senator all for having 32 million uninsured Americans (https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/19/news/economy/senate-repeal-bill-cbo/index.html), as long as the money keeps flowing.

Back in September, Colorado Senator Cory Gardner told colleagues the failure to dismantle the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, could mean big losses in contributions.

“Donors are furious (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/us/politics/republican-donors-obamacare-repeal.html?_r=0),” Gardner said, according to a New York Times report. “We haven’t kept our promise.”


3. Lindsey Graham says the party’s coffers are dependent on tax plan passing.

In addition to cautioning last month that Republicans will lose seats in the House and Senate (https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-tax-reform-impeach-trump-2017-10) if the GOP tax reform bill doesn’t pass, Senator Graham issued a more dire warning on Thursday.

"The party fractures, most incumbents in 2018 will get a severe primary challenge, a lot of them will probably lose, the base will fracture, the financial contributions will stop,” Graham said, “other than that it'll be fine."


4. Corporate behemoths love our tax plan, gushes Trump adviser.

Gary Cohn was the COO of Goldman Sachs for more than a decade before the administration brought him in to lead the National Economic Council.

“The most excited group out there are big CEOs (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/09/gary-cohn-trickle-down-is-good-for-the-economy.html), about our tax plan,” Cohn said during an interview with CNBC’s John Harwood.


Cohn: It's not our intention to give the wealthy a tax cut (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2017/11/10/the-finance-202-trickle-down-economics-is-back-at-least-according-to-gary-cohn/5a04c7b430fb045a2e002f74/?utm_term=.63bf2d72a7d8).

Harwood: But they're getting one.

Cohn: I don't believe that we've set out to create a tax cut for the wealthy. If someone's getting a tax cut, I'm not upset that they're getting a tax cut. I'm really not upset.


5. Another source confirms the health care bill was a show for big-money contributors.

“One Republican senator suggested that McConnell may ultimately decide to bring the bill up for another failed vote, in part to show GOP donors and President Donald Trump that the Senate GOP tried again (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/20/obamacare-repeal-senate-vote-graham-cassidy-242937),” Politico noted.

As long as they get an "A" for effort from donors, they’ll keep getting money for their campaigns.

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/20/5-times-republicans-admitted-they-work-for-rich-donors_partner/

The Princeton study on oligarchy showed the oligarchy get its preferences implemented 99% of the time, while citizens? 1%




Why are 7 of the 10 richest members of Congress Demo? Got any hack writeups on that?

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 03:04 PM
Why are 7 of the 10 richest members of Congress Demo?Why did you bring that up?

Chucho
11-20-2017, 03:16 PM
Why did you bring that up?

1. The article is one of his typical hack jobs copy and pasted from Demo hack rags and it talks about the Right sleeping with dirty money.

2. He's the biggest Left cheerleader here. He posted the article. He's the most likely to know the answer as he posted the article.

3. He always says the Right is corrupted by Big __________ and $$$ oriented scumbags.

4. If that's true, then how'd 70% of the richest members of Congress happen to be Demo? Were they already that rich before they started their Congressional careers?

5. I can't ask a question to someone who's posting a conversation? It's relevant- he's posting his hack writeups and it's a question poised at his party of choice regarding what he finds to be abhorrent about the Right and accuses them of at every turn.

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 03:22 PM
1. The article is one of his typical hack jobs copy and pasted from Demo hack rags and it talks about the Right sleeping with dirty money.

2. He's the biggest Left cheerleader here. He posted the article. He's the most likely to know the answer as he posted the article.

3. He always says the Right is corrupted by Big __________ and $$$ oriented scumbags.

4. If that's true, then how'd 70% of the richest members of Congress happen to be Demo? Were they already that rich before they started their Congressional careers?

5. I can't ask a question to someone who's posting a conversation? It's relevant- he's posting his hack writeups and it's a question poised at his party of choice regarding what he finds to be abhorrent about the Right and accuses them of at every turn.Is it relevant though? The Democrats you are trying to ding into a general class warfare are/will be voting against the tax bill and also against losing insurance so maybe you can explain to me why we should be angry at them for having money. You are certainly free to prove that those Democrats you cited got rich only after they entered congress. I have no doubt that some are beholden to moneyed interests but this tax bill is the most blatant attack on the non-rich I have ever seen.

Chucho
11-20-2017, 03:24 PM
Is it relevant though? The Democrats you are trying to ding into a general class warfare are/will be voting against the tax bill and also against losing insurance so maybe you can explain to me why we should be angry at them for having money. You are certainly free to prove that those Democrats you cited got rich only after they entered congress. I have no doubt that some are beholden to moneyed interests but this tax bill is the most blatant attack on the non-rich I have ever seen.

Great. This is why I'm asking.

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 03:25 PM
Great. This is why I'm asking.OK, I'm going to assume he doesn't have such an article.

Now what?

Chucho
11-20-2017, 03:30 PM
OK, I'm going to assume he doesn't have such an article.

Now what?

Now what, what?

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 03:38 PM
Now what, what?He doesn't have the article you wanted.

Or was it just rhetorical?

Chucho
11-20-2017, 03:44 PM
He doesn't have the article you wanted.

Or was it just rhetorical?


I'd like to hear how he thinks they became so rich.

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 04:22 PM
I'd like to hear how he thinks they became so rich.I'd like to hear how you think they became so rich.

Chucho
11-20-2017, 04:48 PM
I'd like to hear how you think they became so rich.


That's great, once my wish is fulfilled, I'll get to work on that.

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 04:59 PM
That's great, once my wish is fulfilled, I'll get to work on that.So you can't think until your wish is granted?

Seems pretty disingenuous tbh.

Chucho
11-20-2017, 05:01 PM
So you can't think until your wish is granted?

Seems pretty disingenuous tbh.

I asked first. Seems pretty efficient to follow up with my thoughts and a proper rebuttal as well. Sorry if I want to be thorough.

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 05:03 PM
I asked first. Seems pretty efficient to follow up with my thoughts and a proper rebuttal as well. Sorry if I want to be thorough.You can't think until boutons grants your wish.

Because it's thorough.

Chucho
11-20-2017, 05:07 PM
You can't think until boutons grants your wish.

Because it's thorough.


How do you think they got that rich?

Pavlov
11-20-2017, 05:11 PM
How do you think they got that rich?I don't know for sure. I think some were definitely were rich before running for office. I'd expect that to be true for the richest ones.

See how easy that is?

RandomGuy
11-21-2017, 03:39 PM
which issues are not so important. What issues you 100% cannot change and which issues you don't mind going either way. Real talk. No pandering. No deep thoughts or discussions.

Good on you for trying. I wish you luck.

sickdsm
11-21-2017, 05:53 PM
I think you misunderstood the word "use".

Making "liberal" a main vocabulary is the context for "use".

Try to understand the difference. So, you will have everyone using the word, but not everyone making it their main vocabulary.

And yes, you will have some Liberals who use the word "liberals". :lol

It doesn't take away from the argument. :lol


It depends what your definition of the word use is.........


Called that one................
Try to understand the difference. So, you will have everyone using the word, but not everyone making it their main vocabulary.

And yes, you will have some Liberals who use the word "liberals".





You're the one using the word use. Do you understand what it means?

dabom
11-21-2017, 05:57 PM
It depends what your definition of the word use is.........


Called that one................
Try to understand the difference. So, you will have everyone using the word, but not everyone making it their main vocabulary.

And yes, you will have some Liberals who use the word "liberals".





You're the one using the word use. Do you understand what it means?

I just explained the context for my use. Are you a fucking moron? :lol

sickdsm
11-21-2017, 06:04 PM
I think you misunderstood the word "use".

Making "liberal" a main vocabulary is the context for "use".

Try to understand the difference. So, you will have everyone using the word, but not everyone making it their main vocabulary.

And yes, you will have some Liberals who use the word "liberals". :lol

It doesn't take away from the argument. :lol



Argueing context? Check.


This was your extensive questionaire.


Here's some questions.

Do you use the word "liberal"?

End questionnaire.


Pretty simple question, right? "But that's not how i meant it, you can't use it sometime but not your main vocabulary!"



Move goalpost much?

dabom
11-21-2017, 06:06 PM
Argueing context? Check.


This was your extensive questionaire.


Here's some questions.

Do you use the word "liberal"?

End questionnaire.


Pretty simple question, right? "But that's not how i meant it, you can't use it sometime but not your main vocabulary!"



Move goalpost much?

There isn't a goal post moved. You didn't understand the context of my interpretation. Those are my words. My context. You can't tell me what my thought should be. :lol

sickdsm
11-21-2017, 06:11 PM
There isn't a goal post moved. You didn't understand the context of my interpretation. Those are my words. My context. You can't tell me what my thought should be. :lol

Do you use the word "liberal"?

You can't ask a question then change the intended meaning after you don't like the answer and be expected to be taken seriously. Your thoughts aren't deep abstract art. They are 6 words in the form of 3rd grade vocabulary class. There isn't any room to be interpreted.


I like to run. I run fast. Do you like to run fast? 3rd grade man, 3rd grade.

No Tommy. You answered that wrong. Here at Midvale School for the Gifted we can't yet begin to respond until we define what the author meant by the work "like"

dabom
11-21-2017, 06:12 PM
Do you use the word "liberal"?

You can't ask a question then change the intended meaning after you don't like the answer and be expected to be taken seriously. Your thoughts aren't deep abstract art. They are 6 words in the form of 3rd grade vocabulary class. There isn't any room to be interpreted.


I like to run. I run fast. Do you like to run fast? 3rd grade man, 3rd grade.

No Tommy. You answered that wrong. Here at Midvale School for the Gifted we can't yet begin to respond until we define what the author meant by the work "like"

No, I don't. In any context. :lmao :lmao