View Full Version : Thunder: The Thunder need to get WB some help
hater
11-19-2017, 11:56 AM
:lmao
djohn2oo8
11-19-2017, 12:00 PM
Sook the Savage.
illusioNtEk
11-19-2017, 12:22 PM
poor melo tbh
Melo leaves NY, they get better. Goes to OKC, they get worse.
Where have we seen this? Oh yeah, same happened when he left Denver for NY.
Down Under
11-19-2017, 08:42 PM
Melo leaves NY, they get better. Goes to OKC, they get worse.
Where have we seen this? Oh yeah, same happened when he left Denver for NY.
Isolation midrange offense combined with no defense, no court vision/playmaking ability & inability to play off the ball because he can't shoot the 3.
Isolation midrange offense combined with no defense, no court vision/playmaking ability & inability to play off the ball because he can't shoot the 3.
Sounds like Russ just a bit. Paul George is the best player on that team. He could average a triple double if he could get the team to box out for him and let him have the ball on every trip, and run a 2 man offense.
:toast OP with the goods.
Down Under
11-19-2017, 10:17 PM
Sounds like Russ just a bit. Paul George is the best player on that team. He could average a triple double if he could get the team to box out for him and let him have the ball on every trip, and run a 2 man offense.
Thing is, whether you think George or WB is the best player, you probably aren't going to win with WB as your No 1. Even though he can get to the line a lot and can create for his teammates, he's just too out of control. Their ceiling is the 2nd round, but would be interesting to see what happens if they get knocked out in the first.
Melo leaves NY, they get better. Goes to OKC, they get worse.
Where have we seen this? Oh yeah, same happened when he left Denver for NY.
I mean...it’s not like they were a fringe playoff team last year or anything right?—must be on melo :rolleyes
At least they unloaded the dead weights of Kanter, Oladipo et al, those guys are really showing how much they suck.
Ice009
11-20-2017, 04:34 AM
I always thought that Oladipo and Kanter were decent players. I couldn't understand all the Russell has no-one to help him BS last season. Oladipo didn't get anywhere near enough touches and chances to see what he could do. Westbrook too all the spotlight for himself.
You basically have three overhyped players on the same team on the floor at the same time. I'll be very surprised if that works.
Killakobe81
11-21-2017, 12:28 AM
PG13 is good but not truly a max type player post injury ...but because otto porter Harrison barnes hayward etc getting max he will too. okc Lakers someone will overpay ...
DAF86
11-21-2017, 12:39 AM
Paul George needs to come to San Antonio and accept his natural place as Kawhi's second banana, tbh.
Kawhi needs just a tiny bit of help to knock those conceited Warriors out of the playoffs at least once in the next three years.
One more decent two-way wing is all Kawhichael needs. Give him his Pippen and watch him do the unthinkable.
melo should be the sixth man.
ambchang
11-21-2017, 06:46 PM
MElo is a ricky Pierce or Jeff Malone type player but because he played in :lol today’s nba, he will get into the hall.
lefty
11-21-2017, 10:17 PM
MElo is a ricky Pierce or Jeff Malone type player but because he played in :lol today’s nba, he will get into the hall.
Even though Ricky Pierce was mostly a midrange scorer, he actually played some D and would help ib other areas when his shot wasn't falling, Melo is just a black hole
:lol today's NBA
Killakobe81
11-22-2017, 10:40 AM
MElo is a ricky Pierce or Jeff Malone type player but because he played in :lol today’s nba, he will get into the hall.
he is a bit overrated but better all around scorers than either of those guys. But remember BBHOF is not a NBA one he has done enough in his one year at cuse as the MOP on a title squad, leading scorer on a gold medal Team USa squad featuring LEeBron, Wade and Kobe ...add that to his scoring and his case eclipses those guys and puts him in company with lots of guys inducted that never rang.
MElo is a ricky Pierce or Jeff Malone type player but because he played in :lol today’s nba, he will get into the hall.
But those gold medals.
ambchang
11-22-2017, 01:49 PM
he is a bit overrated but better all around scorers than either of those guys. But remember BBHOF is not a NBA one he has done enough in his one year at cuse as the MOP on a title squad, leading scorer on a gold medal Team USa squad featuring LEeBron, Wade and Kobe ...add that to his scoring and his case eclipses those guys and puts him in company with lots of guys inducted that never rang.
But those gold medals.
Ricky Pierce or Jeff Malone would never have sniffed an Olympic invite in :wow yesterday’s nba.
As others have mentioned in this thread, funny how Oladipo and Kanter are actually having decent seasons elsewhere without the cancer on their team.
Shocking.
hater
11-22-2017, 03:51 PM
Meelo is a washed up turn and needs to be released ASAP
djohn2oo8
11-24-2017, 10:26 PM
lol 9 for 27
Pelicans78
11-24-2017, 11:44 PM
Meelo is a washed up turn and needs to be released ASAP
He hasn't been the problem this year. Westbrook hasn't played nearly as well as he did last season.
...at this point it’s comical watching the media try to stay erect for this team :lmao
Raven
11-25-2017, 09:15 AM
Isolation midrange offense combined with no defense, no court vision/playmaking ability & inability to play off the ball because he can't shoot the 3.
meh, his 3 point shot is only 10% down from his overall %.
Raven
11-25-2017, 09:16 AM
Meelo is a washed up turn and needs to be released ASAP
he was never good to begin with.
Killakobe81
11-25-2017, 11:33 AM
He hasn't been the problem this year. Westbrook hasn't played nearly as well as he did last season.
on this i agree ...westbrook has tried so hard to integrate he has been far less aggressive. You see against State he was hyper agressive yet still looked for open team-mates. not sure Russ can lead a team any other way ...
Don't mistake gimmicky stats for better basketball. Russ isn't playing worse. He received a couple guys who are also stat conscious.
JamStone
11-25-2017, 03:44 PM
Haven't watched them a lot but watched them play the Pistons last night. OKC in control for much of the first three quarters. Timely three point shooting by Detroit when OKC could have broken the game open several times kept it just close enough.
And in the fourth quarter, WB, Melo, and PG just kept taking turns jacking up bad shot after bad shot. Rarely more than one pass in the halfcourt set. Fewer mid post post-ups in the fourth. Shot attempts mostly within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. Just taking turns dribbling up the court quickly and shooting as soon as they can. No flow, no fluidity, no patience or discipline, no chemistry, basically no halfcourt sets at all. And the game was very much in the balance the whole fourth quarter. And then they give Russ the final shot, a three point attempt, when his jumper was off all night and a Melo had it rolling much of the game.
Now the three guys are just so talented that they can win games on that talent alone. But they sure don't show much chemistry or basketball IQ. The broadcast said that OKC led the league in losing games in which they had double digit leads. It's not surprising at all with the way they play.
lefty
11-25-2017, 04:57 PM
Ricky Pierce or Jeff Malone would never have sniffed an Olympic invite in :wow yesterday’s nba.
Killakobe81
11-25-2017, 09:41 PM
Haven't watched them a lot but watched them play the Pistons last night. OKC in control for much of the first three quarters. Timely three point shooting by Detroit when OKC could have broken the game open several times kept it just close enough.
And in the fourth quarter, WB, Melo, and PG just kept taking turns jacking up bad shot after bad shot. Rarely more than one pass in the halfcourt set. Fewer mid post post-ups in the fourth. Shot attempts mostly within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. Just taking turns dribbling up the court quickly and shooting as soon as they can. No flow, no fluidity, no patience or discipline, no chemistry, basically no halfcourt sets at all. And the game was very much in the balance the whole fourth quarter. And then they give Russ the final shot, a three point attempt, when his jumper was off all night and a Melo had it rolling much of the game.
Now the three guys are just so talented that they can win games on that talent alone. But they sure don't show much chemistry or basketball IQ. The broadcast said that OKC led the league in losing games in which they had double digit leads. It's not surprising at all with the way they play.
if they lose to a hard working but should be tanking mavs ...talk about a lose-lose. okc nullifies the strong work they put in vs State and Mavs move further away from a top 3 pick.
Good to see a post from you Jam, Happy Holidays
spursistan
11-25-2017, 10:20 PM
Getting curbstomped by the Mavs :lol
Arcadian
11-25-2017, 10:29 PM
:lol Thunder blown out by Dallas
This OKC team doesn't have the collective talent to do anything meaningful. They have a lot of talent, but not a wide array of talent. They all can do basically the same things, and they all have basically the same approach to the games. Russ plays for stats. PG plays for stats. Carmelo plays for stats. Russ will keep playing for stats, PG will get injured and sit out half the season. Carmelo will retreat into his "poor me" shell, surrounded by his wall of hype since he came out with the other big names in the league and hasn't done shit about it.
Quadzilla99
11-26-2017, 08:30 AM
As others have mentioned in this thread, funny how Oladipo and Kanter are actually having decent seasons elsewhere without the cancer on their team.
Shocking.
To be fair I live in Central Florida and Oladipo was just as inconsistent and mediocre here with the Magic as he was last year in OKC. Also Kanters main problem was always on defense since he's so slow footed and also not a shot blocker which I don't see how you could blame that on westbrook. Everyone knew he could fill it up on offense and rebound
djohn2oo8
11-26-2017, 05:26 PM
OKC 2-10 when Westbrook takes the most shots.
OKC 2-10 when Westbrook takes the most shots.
Look at their home vs road results. 6-3 at home, 2-8 on the road.
That's usually a role player issue, but Russ is an energy player and guys like Melo feed off home crowds, not so much on the road. Some guys love to hush opposing crowds, doesn't seem these guys do.
BG_Spurs_Fan
11-27-2017, 02:38 AM
Look at their home vs road results. 6-3 at home, 2-8 on the road.
That's usually a role player issue
Nope - Russ is shooting 10% worse on the road. Their role players are fine.
guys like Melo feed off home crowds, not so much on the road
Melo shoots significantly better on the road.
Stabula
11-27-2017, 04:47 AM
OKC's season is over
Nope - Russ is shooting 10% worse on the road. Their role players are fine.
Melo shoots significantly better on the road.
So you think it's better shooting?
BG_Spurs_Fan
11-27-2017, 09:19 AM
So you think it's better shooting?
You can't have 3 guys who take 53 shots a game between them all shoot in the low 40s - at least one of them has to be efficient. Also, they lead the NBA in iso FGAs by a huge margin, while not being efficient at it as well. They need some coaching and a system, instead of give it to Russ and wait in the corner.
Killakobe81
11-27-2017, 09:35 AM
You can't have 3 guys who take 53 shots a game between them all shoot in the low 40s - at least one of them has to be efficient. Also, they lead the NBA in iso FGAs by a huge margin, while not being efficient at it as well. They need some coaching and a system, instead of give it to Russ and wait in the corner.
i think that is the problem with constructing a super team ... role fit acceptance and a system that plays to the strength of multiple ball dominant players is not easy.
You dont turn down superstar talent but is not like 2k where you can run a my turn-your turn offense.
even the heatles struggled integrating year one at times even with a unselfish (but ego driven) superstar...
With state, the pieces just fit better plus they have so many quality role players plus, steph and klay can hit corner 3s consistently.
Joseph Kony
11-27-2017, 10:54 AM
Spurfan proclaiming Sam Presti as a genius for trading decent pieces for two cancerous players, one who will likely be gone next season and another who is aging and will likely opt in to his 25M salary next year :lmao :lmao
i think that is the problem with constructing a super team ... role fit acceptance and a system that plays to the strength of multiple ball dominant players is not easy.
You dont turn down superstar talent but is not like 2k where you can run a my turn-your turn offense.
even the heatles struggled integrating year one at times even with a unselfish (but ego driven) superstar...
With state, the pieces just fit better plus they have so msny quality role players plus, steph and klay can hit corner 3s consistently.
That's also a problem with a coach that came from the NCAA and never had to deal with professional egos before. Some make the transition ok (Dean Smith tree) and some don't.
I can't believe they haven't replaced the coach yet. If he was black he'd have been gone before KD was.
Spurfan proclaiming Sam Presti as a genius for trading decent pieces for two cancerous players, one who will likely be gone next season and another who is aging and will likely opt in to his 25M salary next year :lmao :lmao
:lol
DAF86
11-27-2017, 09:43 PM
You trade for George 10 times out of 10, tbh.
And considering what little they had to give up for Melo, you trade for Melo too, tbh.
The problem isn't the talent, it's the shitty coaching.
8FOR!3
11-28-2017, 12:54 AM
Paul George needs to come to San Antonio and accept his natural place as Kawhi's second banana, tbh.
Kawhi needs just a tiny bit of help to knock those conceited Warriors out of the playoffs at least once in the next three years.
One more decent two-way wing is all Kawhichael needs. Give him his Pippen and watch him do the unthinkable.
I don't know why we traded him in the first place...
That's also a problem with a coach that came from the NCAA and never had to deal with professional egos before. Some make the transition ok (Dean Smith tree) and some don't.
I can't believe they haven't replaced the coach yet. If he was black he'd have been gone before KD was.
Me
spursistan
11-28-2017, 11:38 AM
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Media was acting like he was a D-league player last season ..:lol
Killakobe81
11-28-2017, 08:09 PM
I don't know why we traded him in the first place...
if it takes the max to get him you will be sorry for asking for this ...I dont even think Lakers should pay max for him but we probably will ...if given the chance.
spursistan
11-29-2017, 09:37 PM
Wrecked by the MAGIC who were on 9-game losing streak :lol
DAF86
11-29-2017, 09:39 PM
Shit is getting to the point of no return, tbh.
lefty
11-29-2017, 09:43 PM
Lol Sam Presto
djohn2oo8
11-29-2017, 09:56 PM
:lmao CN staying clear of this thread like a plague.
djohn2oo8
11-29-2017, 10:17 PM
Clipper Nation
djohn2oo8
11-29-2017, 10:26 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cjpix6SWEAAEj2P?format=jpg
LkrFan
11-29-2017, 10:31 PM
During the game:
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After taking an:lolther L:
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P:lolstgame presser:
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/46/46eb8377876b830ec1809f21b1fee6bcd25d2224fb5d9b868e 7afaa277a2e6d8.jpg
:lmao
Cry Havoc
11-29-2017, 11:18 PM
on this i agree ...westbrook has tried so hard to integrate he has been far less aggressive. You see against State he was hyper agressive yet still looked for open team-mates. not sure Russ can lead a team any other way ...
... they're still last in passes per game in the NBA. I don't buy for a fucking second that Westbrook is "buying in", he's still hunting for triple doubles every single night.
Cry Havoc
11-29-2017, 11:21 PM
During the game:
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After taking an:lolther L:
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P:lolstgame presser:
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/46/46eb8377876b830ec1809f21b1fee6bcd25d2224fb5d9b868e 7afaa277a2e6d8.jpg
:lmao
He gets angrier about missing a triple double than he does about losing.
OB27f4eycbw
Up 20, the MVP with a history of injuries is still in the game with 2 minutes left, trying to get assists and running into traffic.
DAF86
11-29-2017, 11:24 PM
on this i agree ...westbrook has tried so hard to integrate he has been far less aggressive. You see against State he was hyper agressive yet still looked for open team-mates. not sure Russ can lead a team any other way ...
Westbrook is a low IQ guy that thinks that being less agressive equals getting others involved. The big 3 taking turns isoing isn't the same as getting everyone involved. They need to start moving the ball around and create some kind of offensive flow.
spursistan
11-29-2017, 11:25 PM
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:lol Can't deny the truth bombs in this one, tbh.
DAF86
11-29-2017, 11:32 PM
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:lol Can't deny the truth bombs in this one, tbh.
Durant left= :lobt:
Cancers gonna cancer.
This stat padding faggot getting the mvp last year :lol
Roxsfan
11-30-2017, 12:11 AM
OKC- they're sooo good at sucking.
spursistan
12-11-2017, 02:14 AM
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Killakobe81
12-11-2017, 10:09 AM
Westbrook is a low IQ guy that thinks that being less agressive equals getting others involved. The big 3 taking turns isoing isn't the same as getting everyone involved. They need to start moving the ball around and create some kind of offensive flow.
They need a coach with a flowing system and enough clout to ego check superstars. Like phil did with Shaqobe or Riles did with Shaqade
lefty
12-11-2017, 11:54 AM
Lol today's NBA
Clipper Nation
12-11-2017, 04:30 PM
936064148894568448
:lol Can't deny the truth bombs in this one, tbh.
I love how Westbrook's haters just love to praise guys like Waiters, Oladipo and Sabonis for padding their stats on mediocre, irrelevant teams. Meanwhile, every time Westbrook has a good game, they start whining about how "all he does is pad his stats."
I love how Westbrook's haters just love to praise guys like Waiters, Oladipo and Sabonis for padding their stats on mediocre, irrelevant teams. Meanwhile, every time Westbrook has a good game, they start whining about how "all he does is pad his stats."
First, those "mediocre teams" all have similar records than the Thunder, or better. And they aren't rocking two other former All-NBAs.
The difference is that Westbrook is who Westbrook is.
He did this shit with Harden and Durant.
He did this shit with Durant and Ibaka.
He did this shit with Oladipo and Adams.
And now he's still the same player with Melo and George. The question is not whether Russ is a gifted player, because he proved that last year. The question is whether he can ever fit into a contender, but he still goes along taking poor shots, slacking on defense, and just focusing on getting his.
Clipper Nation
12-11-2017, 05:38 PM
Westbrook fit in just fine with a contender that went to the Finals and made several deep playoff runs in the West, tbh.
The real problems with the Thunder are Donovan and Melo. Donovan is your typical, run-of-the-mill bad NBA coach. He has no system, his rotations are all off, and he thinks he can just roll the ball out and win like he usually did at Florida. As for Melo, he is one of the biggest cancers and most overrated players in recent memory. OKC would have been better off not trading for him and sticking with just Westbrook and George.
Russ apologist blaming everyone but him :lol
Cripper nation likes to throw Kobe fans under the bus for doing the same shit with Kobe :lol
Oh the irony :lol
Durant for as much of an unlikeable “tough guy” act he’s portraying finally realized he wasn’t gonna be able to do jack with this clown. Props to him for that. :lol
djohn2oo8
12-12-2017, 12:35 AM
Russ apologist blaming everyone but him :lol
Cripper nation likes to throw Kobe fans under the bus for doing the same shit with Kobe :lol
Oh the irony :lol
Yup. He is excusing Westbrook for shooting 39% from the field
Then talking about Dipo stat padding on a mediocre team when the pacers have a better record than the Thunder:lol
hater
12-12-2017, 10:56 AM
Lol yo dont trade for george 10 times out of 10. Hes an overhyped chucker who came from dvastating injury
And cancermelo??? Lmao worst sigjijg of last summer
spurraider21
12-12-2017, 04:45 PM
picking up george was a no brainer. carmelol was never going to fit on a contender. he's basically just a lazy, fat westbrook
hater
12-12-2017, 05:03 PM
Pick up payl george???
Wasnt he traded for Oladipo and Sabonis???
Terrible tade
picking up george was a no brainer. carmelol was never going to fit on a contender. he's basically just a lazy, fat westbrook
But those gold medals validate him.
-Casuals
SAGirl
12-13-2017, 06:05 PM
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RW got his triple double, that's all that matters. Not like he's still stat watching or anything.
3-17 with 5 turnovers. Holy fuck :lol
These bums are lucky Steven Adams has been bailing their asses out lately. He’s been playing great
Chris Fall
12-14-2017, 11:33 AM
Their "big three" were 10-for-45. How did they even win? And right on Steven Adams. He's having a career scoring season and they're still losing or barely winning. That's just an all around bad situation over there.
These scrubs getting their shit pushed in by the Knicks without Porzingis:lol
Beasly taking a wet hot shit on them:lol
Can’t win without Adams to bail the bums out :lol
Russ <3 :lol
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