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RandomGuy
11-22-2017, 10:43 AM
Florida.

You may remember its greatest hits: hanging chads.

Shrub got elected by a few hundred votes because of Florida.

Now imagine adding hundreds of thousands of Democrats to Florida. All them motivated by an intense dislike of Trump, who has actively mocked them.

This is what is happening, as the Trump administration's incompetent, half-hearted response to Puerto Rico is causing hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens who have voted 75% Democrat historically to move to Florida.

Say bye-bye Governor Lurch.

29 electoral college votes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/12/florida-puerto-rican-influx-hurricane-maria

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 10:53 AM
Criminal Scott and the his Repug SCOFL will find a way to disenfranchise them.

dabom
11-22-2017, 10:54 AM
I hope one day Texas turns blue.

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 10:56 AM
I hope one day Texas turns blue.

Slave state / Bible humping / rural / xenophobic TX is staying red.

and

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/upshot/why-hispanics-dont-have-a-larger-political-voice.html

RandomGuy
11-22-2017, 11:16 AM
I hope one day Texas turns blue.

I have been registering new voters. Many new people have been stepping up to fill in ranks for the Democratic party organization.

Importantly, we have also been stealing ideas from the Republicans, in terms of using what they put out on the web about how to organize, something the GOP in this state does really well.

This is just what I see in the trenches. With a bit of support from the national party, and the grassroots energy that the Trump administration is generating, we will move the needle.

The kids my wife teaches, most of them hispanic, are PISSED.

5 times as many Democrats have moved here in the last 10 years as Republicans, mostly into the Austin-San Antonio corridor.

yet the GOP in this state continues to push bathroom bills, and other stupid shit that drive out moderates.

A tack to the right a bit for the Texas Dems could see a good capture of disaffected moderates.

More than a few reasons to be optimistic if one is a Democrat.

RandomGuy
11-22-2017, 11:18 AM
Criminal Scott and the his Repug SCOFL will find a way to disenfranchise them.

They will try. I am sure they will see the writing on the wall, and take a page out of the GOP voter suprression manual. The sheer number of Puerto Ricans moving to Florida will mean that even with the Republicans actively moving to suprress them, quite a few of them will get to vote, even so.

RandomGuy
11-22-2017, 11:21 AM
Once the GOP is run out of town on the rails by new Democratic voters, who will remember the Republican efforts to disenfranchise them, they will roll back whatever provisions were put in place to keep them from voting, and Democrats will strengthen their hold on the state.

Karma will be a bitch.

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 11:23 AM
"A tack to the right a bit for the Texas Dems"

Dems have already tacked to the right for 30+ years, are now center right Repugs, it didn't help, America is still fucked, Dems are out of power at Fed and state levels.

In any case, ALL politicians behave in accord with the preferences of their BigDonor, not with their voters' preferences.

TX Dems, even with a probably small majority vote in Austin, wouldn't have enough votes to override Repug reflexive obstructionism and sabotage.

RandomGuy
11-22-2017, 11:55 AM
"A tack to the right a bit for the Texas Dems"

Dems have already tacked to the right for 30+ years, are not center right Repugs, it didn't help, America is still fucked, Dems are out of power at Fed and state levels.

In any case, ALL politicians behave in accord with the preferences of their BigDonor, not with their voters' preferences.

TX Dems, even with a probably small majority vote in Austin, wouldn't have enough votes to override Repug reflexive obstructionism and sabotage.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIE2GAqnFGw

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 11:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIE2GAqnFGw

what progressive laws, regs would TX Dems be able to pass? what do they even want to try to pass?

RandomGuy
11-22-2017, 12:01 PM
what progressive laws, regs would TX Dems be able to pass? what do they even want to try to pass?

First off, they will roll back the state government overreach that took away local rights for self determination. Republicans love local control, until a liberal city does something they don't like, then they take the ability of a city to do what its people want, and say that the state government is the right place to make all local policy, e.g. fracking bans.

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 12:13 PM
Preemption by TX Repugs? sure, how many votes would it take?

fracking

Tesla-style sales operations permitted.

municipal non-profit data networks (esp Austin and SA)

dabom
11-22-2017, 12:17 PM
Everyone saw the Dems win every major city in Texas. That's never happened before. There is a change. A very slow one.

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 12:31 PM
Everyone saw the Dems win every major city in Texas. That's never happened before. There is a change. A very slow one.

and TX is still 100% under Repug governance

https://thumbnails.texastribune.org/ZVE_XPwobTDgeI4i0rPcFAIfig0=/850x570/smart/filters:quality(80)/https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/11/10/TX2016-county-results.png

partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression are extremely difficult, if not impossible, to overcome.

dabom
11-22-2017, 12:40 PM
and TX is still 100% under Repug governance

https://thumbnails.texastribune.org/ZVE_XPwobTDgeI4i0rPcFAIfig0=/850x570/smart/filters:quality(80)/https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/11/10/TX2016-county-results.png

partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression are extremely difficult, if not impossible, to overcome.
We are debating if there is a change. Which there is. You rang?

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 12:47 PM
We are debating if there is a change. Which there is. You rang?

TX major cities have been blue for a while, nothing new.

HOU even had gay, black mayor, IIRC.

dabom
11-22-2017, 12:50 PM
TX major cities have been blue for a while, nothing new.

HOU even had gay, black mayor, IIRC.

I said all of them. Is that nothing new?

boutons_deux
11-22-2017, 12:54 PM
I said all of them. Is that nothing new?

hou, sa, dal, el paso, what other "major" cities are blue?

Those, plus RGV, have been quite reliably blue for a while.

dabom
11-22-2017, 12:56 PM
hou, sa, dal, el paso, what other "major" cities are blue. Those, plus RGV, have been quite reliably blue for a while.

I guess you're right. I just checked 2012.

RandomGuy
11-23-2017, 08:33 AM
and TX is still 100% under Repug governance

https://thumbnails.texastribune.org/ZVE_XPwobTDgeI4i0rPcFAIfig0=/850x570/smart/filters:quality(80)/https://static.texastribune.org/media/images/2016/11/10/TX2016-county-results.png

partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression are extremely difficult, if not impossible, to overcome.

Urban Spawl for the win. :D

RandomGuy
11-23-2017, 08:34 AM
I guess you're right. I just checked 2012.

One thing you can't gerrymander away are statewide offices like governor. That will be the canary in the coalmine.

DarrinS
11-23-2017, 08:39 AM
Urban Decay for the win. :D

Fify

boutons_deux
11-23-2017, 08:42 AM
One thing you can't gerrymander away are statewide offices like governor. That will be the canary in the coalmine.

Having a Dem gov in TX would be like Obama as Pres with Repug Congress.

Perry replaced career civil service, competent professionals and polluted TX govt with incompetent rightwing political hacks, exactly the same formula the oligarchy has used to populate Trash's kackistocratic Exec branch with corrupt, destructive, dangerous assholes like Perry, Carson, Devos, Zinke, Mnuchin, Ross, Azar, etc.

TX is fucked red, racist, misogynist, plutocratic for a long time to come.

RandomGuy
11-23-2017, 09:06 AM
Fify

The conservative wing of this country has become detached from reality. Anyone who says "both sides are equally bad" has to square the fact that the right wing is CONVINCED that everything the "liberal media" says is completely fabricated.

RandomGuy
11-23-2017, 09:08 AM
[racist dogwhistle]

"Urban decay".

What exactly are you trying to say Darrin? Do elaborate.