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RandomGuy
11-27-2017, 12:17 PM
More corruption.
New secretary thinks developing oil and gas is great... unless it is in the state where he lives. Then it's bad.
He thinks that national parks are a waste and wants to get rid of them, except in in the state where he lives. Then it's good.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aims-shave-national-monuments-055536052.html


Some public lands are too important to lose to drilling rights, and those lands just so happen to be in Montana ― the home state of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke.

Montana won’t lose any acres or protections for its current national monuments, and the state may also get a brand-new 200-square-mile national monument. That could happen even as the ink dries on Zinke’s recommendation to open millions of acres of public land in other states to oil and gas interests.

Zinke recommended the massive Badger-Two Medicine area in northwest Montana be designated as a national monument over the summer. The designation would protect the federal lands from any oil and gas development.

President Donald Trump has called public lands monuments across the nation a “massive land grab.” And Zinke has advised Trump to shrink or reduce protections for millions of acres in 10 monuments in other states.

That’s why a new monument in Montana has locals “scratching their heads,” notes NPR.

“As you’re attacking the seminal accomplishments of [President Theodore] Roosevelt [who first established national monuments] and at the same time talking about adding a monument, it didn’t make much sense,” Land Tawney, head of the Montana-based Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, told the Missoulian.

Zinke, a former Montana congressman, grew up a couple of hours west of the area he has recommended protecting from drilling rights. But many speculate that his public-lands strategy is less about familiarity and more about political strategy. Tawney and others believe Zinke will run for governor of the state when he’s done serving Trump.

“I think the people of Montana hold our special places very near and dear,” Tawney told NPR. “If you do not protect those places I think it’s a political nightmare for you in this state.”

Other states hold their special places near and dear as well. The White House hasn’t revealed Zinke’s recommendations for those sites. But in a memorandum obtained by The Washington Post in September, Zinke advised Trump to modify 10 national monuments, including shrinking at least four in Western states and dropping drilling protections for others.

Zinke advised shrinking Utah’s Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante, Nevada’s Gold Butt, and Oregon’s Cascade-Siskiyou. The Utah sites alone comprise some 3.2 million acres. Zinke’s memorandum doesn’t specify how many acres might be cut. Reducing protections could also open up remaining land to commercial fishing, grazing, logging and coal mining.

In Zinke’s memo, he notes that the 130,000-acre Two Badger-Medicine site is sacred to the Blackfeet Nation. Bears Ears in Utah is sacred to the Navajo Nation, yet that’s on the chopping block. The other site in Utah, Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, includes some of the most important dinosaur fossil sites in the world.

Trump is expected to announce his decision concerning the national monuments in December.

boutons_deux
11-27-2017, 12:30 PM
Interior Department’s ethics controversy now extends to Lola Zinke

Is Zinke using her husband’s office to boost her career?

The wife of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke is entangled in an ethics controversy — one that has already ensnared her husband — over her travel habits and possible improper use of taxpayer funds.

government watchdogs are actively questioning whether she is taking advantage of the new platform provided by the Interior Department, at taxpayer expense, to gain access to powerful Republicans who can help raise her profile.

“Lolita Zinke is clearly a long-term Republican activist who appears to have an interest in building a career in partisan politics. She is able to use these official travels of the Interior secretary to spread her influence within networks of major Republican donors and Republican operatives,”

Lola Zinke’s “access to high-level politicians and her role in deciding who has access to official government events” could be

allowing major Republican donors to help “shape agency rules and regulations,”

Ryan Zinke “has saddled taxpayers with the expense of planning his wife’s extravagant dinners and trips,”

“Trump has set the tone for the entire administration — that conflicts of interest, ethics rules really don’t matter,”

https://thinkprogress.org/lola-zinke-under-scrutiny-e28d3a36a826/

boutons_deux
11-27-2017, 12:52 PM
I expect Zinke will eventually approve resource extraction (coal, gold, uranium, gas, oil, logging, etc) on all federal lands and national parks

Chucho
11-27-2017, 01:17 PM
I thought this was going to be a thread about removing facial hair from statues mainly because the Govt. and the times have gotten that stupid, tbh.

RandomGuy
11-27-2017, 01:27 PM
I thought this was going to be a thread about removing facial hair from statues mainly because the Govt. and the times have gotten that stupid, tbh.

Looking at the thread title, I can see that. Just took the article header, but that is funny now that I re-read it.

Splits
12-09-2017, 02:43 PM
:lol Trump just giving shit away for nothing, first to the Zionists and now Canadians, eh?


A uranium company launched a concerted lobbying campaign to scale back Bears Ears National Monument, saying such action would give it easier access to the area’s uranium deposits and help it operate a nearby processing mill, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and top Utah Republicans have said repeatedly that questions of mining or drilling played no role in President Trump’s announcement Monday that he was cutting the site by more than 1.1 million acres, or 85 percent. Trump also signed a proclamation nearly halving the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, which is also in southern Utah and has significant coal deposits.

“This is not about energy,” Zinke told reporters Tuesday. “There is no mine within Bears Ears.”

But the nation’s sole uranium processing mill sits directly next to the boundaries that President Barack Obama designated a year ago when he established Bears Ears. The documents show that Energy Fuels Resources (USA) Inc., a subsidiary of a Canadian firm, urged the Trump administration to limit the monument to the smallest size needed to protect key objects and areas, such as archeological sites, to make it easier to access the radioactive ore.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/uranium-firm-urged-trump-officials-to-shrink-bears-ears-national-monument/2017/12/08/2eea39b6-dc31-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.be2816c40644

monosylab1k
12-09-2017, 03:57 PM
:lol Trump just giving shit away for nothing, first to the Zionists and now Canadians, eh?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/uranium-firm-urged-trump-officials-to-shrink-bears-ears-national-monument/2017/12/08/2eea39b6-dc31-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.be2816c40644

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1c/Trump_the_art_of_the_deal.jpg

CosmicCowboy
12-09-2017, 10:18 PM
Presidents shouldnt be able to add or subtract monuments just on executive order.

Spurtacular
12-09-2017, 11:44 PM
RandomGuy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813)

Plagiarizing others' work as usual.

Pavlov
12-09-2017, 11:47 PM
RandomGuy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813)

Plagiarizing others' work as usual.How is it plagiarism when he clearly linked the article for everyone to see?

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 12:21 AM
:lol Trump just giving shit away for nothing, first to the Zionists and now Canadians, eh?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/uranium-firm-urged-trump-officials-to-shrink-bears-ears-national-monument/2017/12/08/2eea39b6-dc31-11e7-b1a8-62589434a581_story.html?utm_term=.be2816c40644

Maybe, Trump wouldn't have had to do that if Hillary hadn't have been bribed to give twenty percent of our uranium to the Russians.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 12:22 AM
How is it plagiarism when he clearly linked the article for everyone to see?

1. Not putting it in quotes.
2. Ripping off the entire article.

Pavlov
12-10-2017, 12:24 AM
1. Not putting it in quotes.
2. Ripping off the entire article.:lol

You think he was trying to pass it off as his own work when he clearly linked the article before you could actually read the article he clearly linked?

Yes or no.

Spurminator
12-10-2017, 12:32 AM
1. Not putting it in quotes.
2. Ripping off the entire article.

Are you this bored?

Get a hobby. Life is good.

Quadzilla99
12-10-2017, 12:39 AM
Presidents shouldnt be able to add or subtract monuments just on executive order.

I agree definitely wrong. If someone ran on a platform of reigning in executive orders and the power of the presidency and actually meant it would be great for the country I think.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 02:14 AM
:cry I'm gay. :cry

Pavlov
12-10-2017, 03:27 AM
I'd ask if you were 14, but even teens don't try to use that as an insult anymore.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 07:20 AM
I'd ask if you were 14, but even teens don't try to use that as an insult anymore.

1. They do.
2. Mere insulting is not the context of my post.
3. You're gay.

boutons_deux
12-10-2017, 07:32 AM
I agree definitely wrong. If someone ran on a platform of reigning in executive orders and the power of the presidency and actually meant it would be great for the country I think.

the entire political class and judiciary is corrupted, such that Pres EOs are a tiny part of fucked up america.

The root toxicity is oligarchy's $Bs corrupting the entire political and judicial class, at all levels, which is about to become much worse with the Repug tax cut for the oligarchy.

TeyshaBlue
12-10-2017, 09:47 AM
1. Not putting it in quotes.
2. Ripping off the entire article.

You're an idiot. The link was clear.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aim...055536052.html

You put it in quotes and the link dies.

"https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aim...055536052.html"

All it takes is a room temperature IQ to grok this.

Xevious
12-10-2017, 10:19 AM
Leave it to one of the Trump crew to completely ignore and distract from the topic at hand with pointless comments and juvenile insults.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 02:34 PM
You're an idiot. The link was clear.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aim...055536052.html

You put it in quotes and the link dies.

"https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aim...055536052.html"

All it takes is a room temperature IQ to grok this.

Attribution: It's a thing.
And posting an entire article is poor net etiquette.
But keep defending a shitty poster if it suits you.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 02:35 PM
Leave it to one of the Trump crew to completely ignore and distract from the topic at hand with pointless comments and juvenile insults.

He does this shit daily. He's getting called out proper, bitch.

Pavlov
12-10-2017, 02:46 PM
Attribution: It's a thing.And he clearly attributed the article by linking it before even posting the article.

It's amazing what a little bitch you are about a complete non-issue.

:lol "called out proper" -- you couldn't be more white if you tried.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 03:01 PM
And he clearly attributed the article by linking it before even posting the article.

It's amazing what a little bitch you are about a complete non-issue.

:lol "called out proper" -- you couldn't be more white if you tried.

No differentiation between his own thoughts and a poorly linked article. It's a bush league OP like the rest, bruh.

Pavlov
12-10-2017, 03:08 PM
No differentiation between his own thoughts and a poorly linked article. It's a bush league OP like the rest, bruh.

He gave his thoughts, then the link, then the article.

A child could figure this out. :lol

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 03:10 PM
He gave his thoughts, then the link, then the article.

A child could figure this out. :lol

Nobody would have to "figure it out" if he wasn't a shitty poster, tbh.

Pavlov
12-10-2017, 03:16 PM
Nobody would have to "figure it out" if he wasn't a shitty poster, tbh.A child could figure it out. A functioning adult would automatically see it tbh.

So you're saying you had trouble figuring it out?

:lol

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 03:27 PM
A child could figure it out. A functioning adult would automatically see it tbh.

So you're saying you had trouble figuring it out?

:lol

I never claimed to not be able to discern his idiotic post.

Pavlov
12-10-2017, 03:29 PM
I never claimed to not be able to discern his idiotic post.:lol double negative.

All you did was bitch about it -- but answer the question:

Did you have trouble figuring it out?

Yes or no.

Spurtacular
12-10-2017, 05:39 PM
:lol double negative.



Actually, it's not. :lmao

TeyshaBlue
12-10-2017, 08:46 PM
Attribution: It's a thing.
And posting an entire article is poor net etiquette.
But keep defending a shitty poster if it suits you.

Attribution: Accomplished by providing link.

Poor net etiquette? That's cute.

RG and I have squared off plenty. I call him on his posts fairly regularly. He's far from a shitty poster even though he and I agree about 20% of the time.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

AaronY
12-11-2017, 03:50 AM
1. Not putting it in quotes.
2. Ripping off the entire article.


You're an idiot. The link was clear.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aim...055536052.html

You put it in quotes and the link dies.

"https://www.yahoo.com/news/zinke-aim...055536052.html"

All it takes is a room temperature IQ to grok this.
Whooaa!

Huge if True

RandomGuy
12-11-2017, 09:38 AM
RandomGuy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813)

Plagiarizing others' work as usual.

??

The link to the article, that obviously isn't mine is clearly there. If you like I can go back and put it in bold.

Jeez. I knew you were too lazy to read past the first line of anything, but thanks for confirming it, dipshit. :tu
.

Spurtacular
12-11-2017, 04:48 PM
??

The link to the article, that obviously isn't mine is clearly there. If you like I can go back and put it in bold.

Jeez. I knew you were too lazy to read past the first line of anything, but thanks for confirming it, dipshit. :tu
.

You shouldn't talk about lazy. All your OP's are basically copyright infringement because you're too lazy to create your own analysis.

RandomGuy
12-11-2017, 05:31 PM
[doubles down on personal attack]

[yawn]

Booooorinnnng

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/37/37c696c5ba5cdbc4e7b266e9822db6cac7b01b6c7a96340720 60e75366c0f35d.jpg

Spurtacular
12-11-2017, 05:36 PM
^^^

Lazy, copyright infringing OPs. You're shit, bro.

RandomGuy
12-11-2017, 05:41 PM
[personal attack]

https://data.whicdn.com/images/28119492/original.gif

Spurtacular
12-11-2017, 05:50 PM
^^^

Did I address that that your OPs are copyright infringement?

Yes or no.

TeyshaBlue
12-11-2017, 06:13 PM
They arent. Really.