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SupremeGuy
12-06-2017, 09:40 AM
So much antisemitism. I won't be shocked to see the far left vehemently stand up against the Jewish people again, so is their sick nature.

boutons_deux
12-06-2017, 09:50 AM
Trash is a whore to AIPAC's $Bs and the evangelical Taliban.

Trash and his white male supremacist KKK Nazis are as anti-Jew as they are anti-non-white.

Trash's move is ANTI-Muslim, not pro-Israel.

Andi it's a gratuitous exercise of Exec power that accomplishes nothing good, and he's following orders from Trash-whisperer Bannon.

Pavlov
12-06-2017, 09:57 AM
Yeah, this will bring peace to the middle East.

hater
12-06-2017, 09:59 AM
So Trump thinks its capital of Israel so what?

Trump also thinks we should grab them all by the pussy :lol

Chucho
12-06-2017, 12:35 PM
So Trump thinks its capital of Israel so what?

Trump also thinks we should grab them all by the pussy :lol


You don't realize the gravity of the issue. Unsure if you recall, but Palestinian attacks on Israel was basically THE news of the Middle east in the mid-late 90s. It's about to be THE news of the Middle East again.

Reck
12-06-2017, 01:01 PM
You don't realize the gravity of the issue. Unsure if you recall, but Palestinian attacks on Israel was basically THE news of the Middle east in the mid-late 90s. It's about to be THE news of the Middle East again.

This Trump guy..is really all about who tickles him the best.

He's buddy buddy with Netanyahu so this is pretty much a favor to him. Trump doesn't know or cares to know about the consequences.

The Gemini Method
12-06-2017, 01:02 PM
Not a particularly graceful move. With what had happened in the region with the "Arab Spring" and the Palestinian struggle, this will undoubtedly lead to clashing and violence in that region. Also, moving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem will take a few years logistically, so who even knows who'll be manning the White House at that point.

Chucho
12-06-2017, 01:06 PM
This Trump guy..is really all about who tickles him the best.

He's buddy buddy with Netanyahu so this is pretty much a favor to him. Trump doesn't know or cares to know about the consequences.

Nope, not at all. While Jews and pro-Jews see the exterior symbolism and importance of this, anyone who knows the history of the area knows this more than likely isn't going to end well. You couple this with all the fucking money we give that country and it's just US pandering to Israel in the highest degree.

Pavlov
12-06-2017, 01:07 PM
This Trump guy..is really all about who tickles him the best.

He's buddy buddy with Netanyahu so this is pretty much a favor to him. Trump doesn't know or cares to know about the consequences.He's throwing Bibi a bone. That dude is under investigation himself.

RandomGuy
12-06-2017, 01:12 PM
So much antisemitism. I won't be shocked to see the far left vehemently stand up against the Jewish people again, so is their sick nature.

It was a bad move for the US in the past, and is a bad move for us now.

Before now, incoming presidents had their naivite beaten out of them by the experienced staff of State and Defense, and have walked back their ignorant promises to do so as the gravity of the situation becomes clear.

This president thinks he knows better out of a shocking ignorance, and doesn't even read the briefings. S'all good.

I guess we get to see what happens. I doubt it will be beneficial to the US.

RandomGuy
12-06-2017, 01:15 PM
Not a particularly graceful move. With what had happened in the region with the "Arab Spring" and the Palestinian struggle, this will undoubtedly lead to clashing and violence in that region. Also, moving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem will take a few years logistically, so who even knows who'll be manning the White House at that point.

Not Trump. Odds makers have nudged his "finishes first term" percentage below 50%, and the odds of him winning a second term are running at 7:1

hater
12-06-2017, 01:41 PM
You don't realize the gravity of the issue. Unsure if you recall, but Palestinian attacks on Israel was basically THE news of the Middle east in the mid-late 90s. It's about to be THE news of the Middle East again.

It was THE news of the middle east because THE news media complex decided it to be

Look at whats happening in Honduras right now. Not a peep from US media and ppl are killing themselves there

Or even worse look at whats happening in Yemen

Palestine Israel is just a little pet pieve of the media complex. They sell newspapers reporting on it

rjv
12-06-2017, 02:13 PM
He's throwing Bibi a bone. That dude is under investigation himself. he's appeasing his radically nuts evangelical contingency as well as sheldon adelson. a really stupid move that puts americans at risk. if one recalls, the israeli occupation of jerusalem (illegal at that) was one of the reasons that bin laden carried out the 9/11 attacks.

Chucho
12-06-2017, 02:25 PM
he's appeasing his radically nuts evangelical contingency as well as sheldon adelson.

How would legitimizing the capital of the Jewish homeland appease the Christian evangelical contingency he has?

rjv
12-06-2017, 02:45 PM
How would legitimizing the capital of the Jewish homeland appease the Christian evangelical contingency he has? conservative evangelicals have constructed all sorts of bizarre bridges, whether they be cosmological as in creationism, or rooted in the territorialism of the Bible, and they are also obsessed with the notion of a theological conquest of secular Israel. the Israeli Ministry of Tourism started the process of creating a pro-Israeli force among conservative Christians back in the 1980's (after conducting studies on American fundamentalism) and this strategy has paid off for Israel, especially in regards to foreign policy.

baseline bum
12-06-2017, 02:48 PM
he's appeasing his radically nuts evangelical contingency as well as sheldon adelson. a really stupid move that puts americans at risk. if one recalls, the israeli occupation of jerusalem (illegal at that) was one of the reasons that bin laden carried out the 9/11 attacks.

Then it's a good move for Trump since he wants to keep the American public in fear of Islamic terrorism. Do you think Trump gives a shit about any American lives put at risk?

spurraider21
12-06-2017, 02:48 PM
So much antisemitism. I won't be shocked to see the far left vehemently stand up against the Jewish people again, so is their sick nature.
:cry stop calling us racist for saying anything negative about other races
:cry but anything short of complete and total support of all things Israeli is anti semitism

FuzzyLumpkins
12-06-2017, 03:01 PM
Since the Crusaders took Jerusalem in the second Crusade Jerusalem has been a rallying cry for jihad. Saladin and all that.

Trump's stupidity is horrible for national and world security. AQ and ISIS just got a new advertising campaign gift wrapped for them but the buffoon in chief.

baseline bum
12-06-2017, 03:14 PM
Since the Crusaders took Jerusalem in the second Crusade Jerusalem has been a rallying cry for jihad. Saladin and all that.

Trump's stupidity is horrible for national and world security. AQ and ISIS just got a new advertising campaign gift wrapped for them but the buffoon in chief.

Why is it a stupid move for Trump? ISIS attacking us is great for him, as he needs Americans to be scared. It's only a stupid move if you make the assumption he is serving the American people, which he is obviously not.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-06-2017, 03:16 PM
Why is it a stupid move for Trump? ISIS attacking us is great for him, as he needs Americans to be scared. It's only a stupid move if you make the assumption he is serving the American people, which he is obviously not.

I don't buy that Trump is that connivingly sinister nor that he thinks that far ahead. I think he is simply trying to appeal to the "Jerusalem was the City of David in our magic book" crowd.

baseline bum
12-06-2017, 03:26 PM
I don't buy that Trump is that connivingly sinister nor that he thinks that far ahead. I think he is simply trying to appeal to the "Jerusalem was the City of David in our magic book" crowd.

It's not thinking very far ahead. I don't know how it's anything other than obvious that stoking Islamic anger is great for someone who needs to keep Americans scared to hold onto power. Same kind of shit Hitler did. It's always dangerous to explain political moves with the "they're stupid" card. Trump's not stupid, he has cheated his way through life and then fanned the flames of right wing anger ignited by the Kochs and the teabaggers to get himself into a presidency he is in no way qualified for. He might be demented but he's not stupid.

Blake
12-06-2017, 03:33 PM
Yeah at the end of the day I think he's just trying to appease the fucking evangelicals more than anything else.

Blake
12-06-2017, 03:37 PM
Check out Hagee's video with the flags in the back

938490962321518598

FuzzyLumpkins
12-06-2017, 04:32 PM
It's not thinking very far ahead. I don't know how it's anything other than obvious that stoking Islamic anger is great for someone who needs to keep Americans scared to hold onto power. Same kind of shit Hitler did. It's always dangerous to explain political moves with the "they're stupid" card. Trump's not stupid, he has cheated his way through life and then fanned the flames of right wing anger ignited by the Kochs and the teabaggers to get himself into a presidency he is in no way qualified for. He might be demented but he's not stupid.

Listening to him talk and try to understand what I consider simple concepts I think he is stupid particularly when held to the standard of other POTUS.

The aphorism is to never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

If he was being malicious then he is also not serving his own self interest given that his own holdings would become targets for terrorism. Bombing Trump Tower would be exactly in the jihadist wheelhouse.

Christian evangelicals have been calling for the recognition of Jerusalem for the better part of a century. Trump does respond to their desires just as he caters to the white nationalists of his base.

rjv
12-06-2017, 04:35 PM
Check out Hagee's video with the flags in the back

938490962321518598 yeah, that just about sums it up. and on a side note, that hagee is bat-shit crazy.

Blake
12-06-2017, 04:40 PM
...and on a side note, that hagee is bat-shit crazy.

That he's got a large following and is a millionaire says the same about much of our society. At least locally

rjv
12-06-2017, 04:42 PM
That he's got a large following and is a millionaire says the same about much of our society. At least locally indeed it does.

boutons_deux
12-07-2017, 12:07 AM
‘If he’s wrong, he’s doomed’: Kushner’s push to relocate US embassy to Jerusalem threatens Trump adviser’s fate

after Kushner lead the effort of move the United States embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, his credibility within the administration is once again on the line.

One Politico source, a Kushner ally, says President Donald Trump’s son-in-law deserves all of the credit, or blame, for the embassy move.

“Encouraging would be an understatement,” the source close to Kushner said. “It was him.”

Defense Secretary James Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson both opposed Kushner’s push to move the embassy.

The added scrutiny comes after

Kushner’s advice (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/kushner-was-freaked-out-about-comey-from-day-one-and-fears-mueller-will-target-decision-to-fire-ex-fbi-director/) to fire FBI Director James Comey (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/during-golf-rainout-trump-stewed-indoors-and-decide-to-fire-james-comey/) resulted in the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/if-hes-wrong-hes-doomed-kushners-push-to-relocate-us-embassy-to-jerusalem-threatens-trump-advisers-fate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

dabom
12-07-2017, 12:16 AM
‘If he’s wrong, he’s doomed’: Kushner’s push to relocate US embassy to Jerusalem threatens Trump adviser’s fate

after Kushner lead the effort of move the United States embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, his credibility within the administration is once again on the line.

One Politico source, a Kushner ally, says President Donald Trump’s son-in-law deserves all of the credit, or blame, for the embassy move.

“Encouraging would be an understatement,” the source close to Kushner said. “It was him.”

Defense Secretary James Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson both opposed Kushner’s push to move the embassy.

The added scrutiny comes after

Kushner’s advice (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/kushner-was-freaked-out-about-comey-from-day-one-and-fears-mueller-will-target-decision-to-fire-ex-fbi-director/) to fire FBI Director James Comey (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/during-golf-rainout-trump-stewed-indoors-and-decide-to-fire-james-comey/) resulted in the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/if-hes-wrong-hes-doomed-kushners-push-to-relocate-us-embassy-to-jerusalem-threatens-trump-advisers-fate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29




:lmao

dabom
12-07-2017, 12:17 AM
This is gonna get people killed. Fucking stupid as fuck.

pgardn
12-07-2017, 12:42 AM
It was THE news of the middle east because THE news media complex decided it to be

Look at whats happening in Honduras right now. Not a peep from US media and ppl are killing themselves there

Or even worse look at whats happening in Yemen

Palestine Israel is just a little pet pieve of the media complex. They sell newspapers reporting on it

Media complex...

The Washington Post had a giant opinion piece about the mess chastising Obama, and more so, Trump. The BBC, The Guardian... Buy the entire NY Times you dolt. It's not being reported in your tiny world. Same with Yemen. Israel is big because of the ramifications for the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST.

Fn dolt always going to the big screen for his news.

boutons_deux
12-07-2017, 07:10 AM
Kushner’s push to relocate US embassy to Jerusalem threatens Trump adviser’s fate

:lmao

The Best People

DarrinS
12-07-2017, 09:36 AM
Nazi move, tbh. He’s literally Hitler.

DarrinS
12-07-2017, 09:43 AM
Oh, and

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act

MB20
12-07-2017, 10:06 AM
Need to sell those weapons somewhere

RandomGuy
12-07-2017, 01:44 PM
Then it's a good move for Trump since he wants to keep the American public in fear of Islamic terrorism. Do you think Trump gives a shit about any American lives put at risk?

I do not.

As long as it isn't his, he doesn't give a single Trump jr. about it.

boutons_deux
12-07-2017, 02:00 PM
Broad Majority of Americans Support Moving Trump to Jerusalem

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a287ccfd0152e62fb02128a/master/w_649,c_limit/Borowitz-Broad-Majority-of-Americans-Support-Moving-Trump-to-Jerusalem.jpg


WASHINGTON —In a new poll conducted on Wednesday, a sweeping majority of Americans said they support moving Donald J. Trump to Jerusalem.

The sixty-three per cent of survey respondents who approved relocating Trump to Jerusalem

placed few conditions on such a move, other than that it take place “as soon as possible” and that it be “permanent.”

In other poll results, an overwhelming majority of respondents said that they

would support relocating Trump to any number of other foreign destinations, including Russia, the Philippines,

and “that station where scientists live at the South Pole.”

Though Americans were strongly enthusiastic about moving Trump to Jerusalem,

in a rare consensus both Arabs and Israelis vehemently opposed the move.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/broad-majority-of-americans-support-moving-trump-to-jerusalem (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/broad-majority-of-americans-support-moving-trump-to-jerusalem)

Chucho
12-07-2017, 02:15 PM
I seriously doubt the Israelis are against getting recognition of their capital back.

RandomGuy
12-07-2017, 02:27 PM
Clashes between hundreds of Palestinian protesters and Israeli troops erupted across the West Bank on Thursday while demonstrators in Gaza burned posters of President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as well as Israeli and U.S. flags.

The leader of the Hamas militant group, which runs Gaza, called for a new armed uprising in a widespread show of anger over Trump's move to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mideast-braces-fallout-trumps-move-jerusalem-064622551.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews

Brazil
12-07-2017, 03:28 PM
This move just shows once again that Trump has absolutely no clue of what he is doing... dude is mentally challenged, an idiot with poor overall culture and too stupid to even take opinions and analysis of people who know.

Every day every week every month since he has been elected he is doing or saying something that gonna hurt the US and the planet on the long run.

Trump is worst than Staline Hitler Pol pot and Escobar combined

RandomGuy
12-07-2017, 03:49 PM
Nazi move, tbh. He’s literally Hitler.

Filed under the "no shit, Sherlock" folder:

"White House sources say Trump ‘did not fully understand’ implications of his Jerusalem decision"
http://deadstate.org/white-house-sources-say-trump-did-not-fully-understand-implications-of-his-jerusalem-decision/

RandomGuy
12-07-2017, 03:50 PM
Sure enough, clashes between Palestinian protesters and Israeli soldiers erupted in areas across the West Bank and Gaza Strip this Thursday. Reports say the situation is under control so far with no casualties, but the big test remains for this Friday when large crowds leave their mosques after weekly prayers. The Washington Post reports that the Palestinian Authority called for a general strike in Palestinian cities, while in Gaza the Islamist Hamas goverment called on people to ignite a third intifada, or uprising, against Israel.

At least three rockets were fired from Gaza but did not reach their targets, nevertheless prompting the Israeli Defense Forces to retaliate by striking two military sites in Gaza.

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 05:57 PM
Do you guys realize that Obama also said Jerusalem was the capital of Israel many times without the media becoming completely unhinged?

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:01 PM
Its an easy search of youtube with multiple credible videos of him saying it.

Pavlov
12-07-2017, 06:02 PM
Do you guys realize that Obama also said Jerusalem was the capital of Israel many times without the media becoming completely unhinged?


Its an easy search of youtube with multiple credible videos of him saying it.Yeah, he constantly moved the embassy there multiple times as well.

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:05 PM
Hasn't moved yet and won't.

Make sure you get really worked up over it, though.

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:07 PM
Bill Clinton and Bush also recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Are you guys enraged at them too?

Pavlov
12-07-2017, 06:08 PM
Hasn't moved yet and won't.

Make sure you get really worked up over it, though.I stated I thought it was a completely unnecessary move if Trump actually wants his son in law to bring peace to the middle east.

Make sure you defend Trump on every issue, though.

Pavlov
12-07-2017, 06:09 PM
Bill Clinton and Bush also recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Are you guys enraged at them too?Then why is the right treating this so differently?

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:23 PM
Hey chump...go back to page one of this thread and read the idiot posts horrified that trump recognized jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Im just pointing out how ridiculous these faggot tantrums are.

Blake
12-07-2017, 06:23 PM
Hasn't moved yet and won't.

Make sure you get really worked up over it, though.

The evangelicals are absolutely giddy over Trump's announcement. If only you had let them in on earlier on this.

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:25 PM
I stated I thought it was a completely unnecessary move if Trump actually wants his son in law to bring peace to the middle east.

Make sure you defend Trump on every issue, though.
Trumps an asshole but this hysteria is ridiculous.

Blake
12-07-2017, 06:30 PM
Trumps an asshole but this hysteria is ridiculous.

There's a reason that presidents of the last 20 years have delayed moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

Even for the low lease price of $1 a year for the next 70 something years.

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:42 PM
Lol. It won't move to Jerusalem. To quote the stones, you cant always get what you want.

CosmicCowboy
12-07-2017, 06:48 PM
Yeah at the end of the day I think he's just trying to appease the fucking evangelicals more than anything else.
Evangelicals believe the Jews killed Jesus. Da Bible sez so.

koriwhat
12-07-2017, 06:49 PM
Far left are the real fascists... My Jewish friends are ecstatic.

Tense times though for sure with the recognition and future move to Jerusalem. We need to quit appeasing the radicals and this is the 1st step in the right direction.

Blake
12-07-2017, 07:25 PM
Far left are the real fascists...

:but I'm not a righty :cry

Blake
12-07-2017, 07:26 PM
Lol. It won't move to Jerusalem. To quote the stones, you cant always get what you want.

We'll see. I guess Trump can keep coming up with excuses and keep signing 6 month waivers like the previous presidents but I'm not sure I see that happening.

boutons_deux
12-08-2017, 09:11 AM
Netanyahu Ditches US Jews for Alliance with Christian Evangelicals and the Alt-Right (https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/07/netanyahu-ditches-us-jews-for-alliance-with-christian-evangelicals-and-the-alt-right/)


https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-19-at-9.06.31-PM-768x542.png

For decades most American Jews have claimed an “Israel exemption”: resolutely progressive on domestic issues, they are hawks on their cherished cause. Racism they would vigorously oppose if applied in the United States is welcomed in Israel.

But paradoxically, just as American Jews look close to winning the battle domestically on behalf of Israel, many feel more alienated from a Jewish state than ever before.

Given that half the world’s Jews live outside Israel – the great majority in the US – their support for Israel is critical.

The rift has grown into a chasm as Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing government widens its assault on civil rights. It now targets not just Palestinians but the remnants of liberal Jewish society in Israel – in open contempt for the values of most American Jews.

Avraham Infeld, a veteran Israeli liaison with the US Jewish community, told the Haaretz newspaper this week that the crisis in relations was “unprecedented”. American Jews have concluded “Israel doesn’t give a damn about them”.

Tzipi Hotovely, the deputy foreign minister, all but accused American Jews of being freeloaders. She condemned their failure to fight in the US or Israeli militaries, saying they preferred “convenient lives”.

Her comments caused uproar.

They echo those of leading Orthodox rabbis, who argue that Reform Jews are not real Jews – and are possibly even an enemy.

the Israeli prime minister set out his rationale for sacrificing the support of liberal Jews overseas at a recent closed-door meeting with officials.

He reportedly told them that non-Orthodox Jews would disappear in “one or two generations” through low birth rates, intermarriage and more general assimilation. Liberal Jews were a “lost cause” in his view, and wedded to a worldview that was incompatible with Israel’s future.

he added, Israel should invest in cultivating stronger ties to Orthodox Jews and Christian evangelicals.

Netanyahu’s demographic predictions may turn out to be faulty, but they are clearly now driving his policy towards liberal Jews at home and abroad.

In fact, as Israel’s attacks on liberals in Israel echo Trump’s rhetoric and policies towards minorities in the US,

American Jews are gradually being forced to reassess their longstanding double standard towards Israel.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/07/netanyahu-ditches-us-jews-for-alliance-with-christian-evangelicals-and-the-alt-right/

boutons_deux
12-08-2017, 10:03 AM
Jewish Congressional Democrats not invited to Trump White House Hanukkah party

President Tr (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump)ash hosted his first White House Hanukkah party on Thursday night, where he touted his administration's decision to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

Trump hosted hundreds of attendees at the White House for the party, with a guest list that had been narrowed from previous administrations.

Congressional Democrats, as well as Jewish leaders who have been critical of Trump, were excluded from receiving invitations this year

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/363898-trump-holds-first-white-house-hanukkah-party

The only good Jew is ... a Repug Jew.

apalisoc_9
12-08-2017, 11:10 AM
This changes nothing. Over 10k Palestinians have been killed in Jerico to make ways for European orthodox jews that last 15 years.

Aqsa has been under Jordans control for years now.

Id give it another 30 years before Palestinians are ethnically cleansed by Europeans Jews in Jerico.

apalisoc_9
12-08-2017, 11:13 AM
The interesting build up is the orthodox vs Liberal jew scene. Israel verly clearly cares little of Ahkenzis or US jews. We will see how long its convenient for them to hide their differences but its very clear they are heading towards seperation.

apalisoc_9
12-08-2017, 11:14 AM
A full feud between Ahkenzi liberals and Orthodox jews is gonna be one big mindfuck for the average uncultured american.

DarrinS
12-08-2017, 01:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r95vyrcQLtg

koriwhat
12-08-2017, 08:36 PM
:but I'm not a righty :cry

But but but blakes not a cuck

boutons_deux
12-09-2017, 07:38 AM
Trash's Jerusalem announcement made to aggrandize himself as being better than all the failed Pres before him.

Trump posts video of past presidents’ statements on Israel embassy

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/363907-trump-posts-video-of-past-presidents-statements-on-israel-embassy

RandomGuy
12-12-2017, 04:04 PM
How would legitimizing the capital of the Jewish homeland appease the Christian evangelical contingency he has?

Because the modern state of Israel is required for the second coming of Christ.


Why Evangelical Christians Support Israel

These facts about modern day Israel are all true. But mere political rhetoric does not account for the profound devotion to Israel that exists in the hearts of tens of millions of evangelical Christians.

You must realize that the God who spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai is our God. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are our spiritual Patriarchs. Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel are our prophets. King David, a man after God's own heart, is our hero. The Holy City of Jerusalem is our spiritual capital. And the continuation of Jewish sovereignty over the Holy Land is a further bulwark to us that the God of the Bible exists and that His Word is true.

And we should clearly take note that evangelical Christians serve a Jew that we believe was the divine Messiah of Israel, spoken of by the ancient prophets, to whom He entrusted the worldwide dissemination of His message to 12 Jewish apostles.

http://www.patrobertson.com/Speeches/IsraelLauder.asp
The reasoning is out there. Sopping to Israel makes evangelicals generally happy. Their interpretations of stupid bible prophesies require the nation state of Israel to exist.

If you want, copy pasta this into google's search engine for more:

evangelical view of israel

boutons_deux
12-12-2017, 04:17 PM
Because the modern state of Israel is required for the second coming of Christ.



I think the apocalyptic End Timers want ALL Jews to go back to Israel.

Those Christians hate Jews as much as they hate Catholics, but they need Jews as a means in Israel so the Christians can get raised up to heaven / not Left Behind with Christ 2.0

boutons_deux
12-15-2017, 04:36 PM
Nazareth, Jesus’ hometown, cancels Christmas to protest Trump’s Jerusalem move


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article189956269.html

Blake
12-15-2017, 06:57 PM
Nazareth, Jesus’ hometown, cancels Christmas to protest Trump’s Jerusalem move


http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article189956269.html

https://assets.rbl.ms/14845634/980x.jpg

Pavlov
12-15-2017, 06:59 PM
Damn, Trump lost the war on Christmas in Jesustown.

ElNono
12-15-2017, 07:45 PM
what could go wrong? :lol

boutons_deux
12-20-2017, 01:36 PM
Just as Trash does in his business vengences, the dickless fraud bully intends to HURT countries that vote against his Jerusalem move

Haley Warns UN That Trump Is Watching Jerusalem Votes


U.S. envoy says Trump will take the vote at the UN personally


General Assembly to meet in rare emergency session Thursday

Nikki Haley has a warning for her fellow UN ambassadors ahead of a key vote on Jerusalem this week: Donald Trump (https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/id/1252249) is watching.

- Haley warned that

“the president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those countries who voted against us.

We will take note of each and every vote on this issue.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-20/haley-is-said-to-warn-un-that-trump-is-watching-jerusalem-votes?mc_cid=274ac7fe7f&mc_eid=47e367557b

boutons_deux
12-21-2017, 11:34 AM
Delusional Self-Interest in Trump’s Jerusalem Move

President Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital let him boast about his courage but he ignored both international law and U.S. interests in delivering this gift to the Israel Lobby, as Lawrence Davidson explains.

Trump: “I want to make one point very clear …. The United States remains deeply committed to helping to facilitate a peace agreement that is acceptable to both sides.” We are “not taking a position on any final status issues.”

Comment:

It is at this point that you have to ask just what world the President is living in.

Actually, the answer is not that hard to come by.

It is a personal world that is singularly egocentric.

As such it has no real relevance to U.S. national interests and certainly not to Palestinian-Israeli conflict resolution. Its only reference point is Trump’s own, largely unrestrained, self-serving urges and needs.

According to reports (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jerusalem-israel-capital-peace-process-campaign-promise-advisers-a8097596.html)coming from inside the White House, Trump was interested in the alleged prestige of being the President who actually went through with the promise to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

“While previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. Today I am delivering (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-trump-jerusalem/).”

He sought out those who would encourage his goal – those who are hardly any more knowledgeable than he –

his Christian Fundamentalist Vice President Mike Pence, and

son-in-law Jared Kushner, who is a family friend of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Trump is also reported to have been encouraged to take this step by the Senate Minority Leader (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/363465-schumer-advised-trump-on-declaring-jerusalem-as-israels-capital)

Trump ignored the advice of

his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, and

Secretary of Defense, James Mattis,

both of whom thought the move ill-advised.

So now we have the Zionists and Christian fundamentalists standing behind Trump, patting him on the back.

The rest of the world stands in front of him, aghast (http://mwcnews.net/news/middle-east/69477-trumps-jerusalem-move-3.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mwcnews%2FXrew+%28MWC+News+Al ert%29).

Typical of the self-serving type he is, Trump only cares about the blandishments pushing him in the direction he wants to go.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/21/delusional-self-interest-in-trumps-jerusalem-move/

boutons_deux
12-23-2017, 11:37 PM
Christians in Holy Land say Trump and Pence have killed tourism and put their lives at risk

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/christians-in-holy-land-say-trump-and-pence-have-killed-tourism-and-put-their-lives-at-risk/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
12-25-2017, 04:24 PM
AIPAC gets Trash to pardon a Federal felon

Trump and the Meat Tycoon: Backstory to a Commutation (https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/25/trump-and-the-meat-tycoon-backstory-to-a-commutation/)

After he served 8 years of a 27-year sentence for money laundering, kosher meatpacking executive Sholom Rubashkin had his sentence commuted.

Initial charges (https://www.amazon.com/Born-Junk-Food-Deficiency-Quacks/dp/1616145935) against Agriprocessors’s employees included

harboring illegal aliens,

use of child labor,

document fraud,

identity theft,

physical and sexual abuse of workers,

unsafe working conditions,

wage and hour violations, and

shorting workers’ pay.

According to the search warrant, one thousand discrepancies between worker names and social security numbers occurred in three years.

There was even a methamphetamine production plant existing within the slaughterhouse, sanctioned by management.

Agriprocessors’s owner, Aaron Rubashkin; his son Sholom; and others,

the charges were dropped as prosecutors unspooled elaborate financial wrongdoing at the plant, which they pursued instead.

In 2008, Sholom Rubashkin was convicted of eighty-six counts of federal-bank fraud in connection with loans to the company, including fabricating fake collateral for loans, ordering employees to create false invoices, and laundering millions through a secret bank account in the name of Torah Education, reported the New York Times.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/25/trump-and-the-meat-tycoon-backstory-to-a-commutation/

Black man convicted of raping a white girl, many decades in prison.

Wealthy white man commits dozens of Federal non-financial and Federal financial crimes, get 8 years, after wealthy people lobby/pay for his communtation.

boutons_deux
02-21-2018, 01:43 PM
Like every dickless bully, Trash "hits back" knowing he won't suffer, but he's killing kids, like a true Repug

Trump Makes the Crisis Worse for Palestinian Refugees

“Any reduction of aid would be a death sentence for refugees in Gaza.”

Trump retaliated

by cutting US financial support to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) by more than 50 percent.

“A Death Sentence” for Gazan Refugees

The US cutback in aid to UNRWA critically threatens (http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/43305-gaza-residents-fear-impact-of-us-cuts-to-un-aid) the access of Palestinian refugees to food, health care and education.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/02/21/trump-makes-crisis-worse-palestinian-refugees

Repugs, the pro-life (of the oligarchy) party

boutons_deux
02-23-2018, 07:55 AM
Trump Considering Offer From GOP Mega Donor To Pay For Jerusalem Embassy


https://dawm7kda6y2v0.cloudfront.net/uploads/2018/02/[email protected]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-considering-offer-adelson-fund-jerusalem-embassy?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

fully tax-deductible, of course, from Adelson's already Repug-reduced tax bill

pgardn
05-13-2018, 10:52 PM
Pastor Hagee from SA gonna speak. Says Trump will go down in political immortality. Did orange guy get the implication of the underlined in the statement?

As far as the Palestinians in the West Bank and Jerusalem, the following article is very good. For so long the Palestinians have been funded from other Arab nations for violence, yet these nations don’t give a shit about the Palestinians. Yassir Arafat, Hamas, Fahtah, have all taken money from outside interests while their people suffer.

Good breakdown on the people wanting non-violent protests, Ghandi and Mandela inspired...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/hamas-fatah-groups-failing-180512082001713.html

The liberal Israeli public, who recognize and are sympathetic to the cause, have been buried by Gaza and the West Bank organizations being funded by people who don’t give a shit about peace as long as the Palestinians rocket or stab Israelis. This has led to Bennie and the jets ruling. Arafat stole his people’s money, yet the old Palestinians still have his picture on the crumbling bedroom wall. This is why younger intellectuals can be so crucial in peace. Or can bury a movement if they go to violence. You want to hang on to 1948, you want to hang onto the stupid Arab states who lost territory with idiotic military endeavors, you get Benji to deal with. The Palestinians put their faith in Arab dictators who did not give an F about them. Used them as fodder.

Blake
05-14-2018, 09:19 AM
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate candidate Mitt Romney of Utah says a prominent Baptist minister shouldn't be giving the prayer that opens the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem because he's a "religious bigot."

In a tweet Sunday night, the former Massachusetts governor and 2012 Republican presidential nominee criticized Dallas minister Robert Jeffress for his remarks about Jews, Mormons and Islam......

Historic Christianity has taught for 2,000 years that salvation is through faith in Christ alone. The fact that I, along with tens of millions of evangelical Christians around the world, continue to espouse that belief, is neither bigoted nor newsworthy,: Jeffress said in the tweet,

The role of Jeffress, pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas, a Southern Baptist megachurch, underlines the significance of the Jerusalem event as an appeal to Christian conservatives, part of President Donald Trump's base of supporters......

https://www.yahoo.com/news/romney-jeffress-wrong-man-jerusalem-embassy-prayer-032032447.html



How about no prayer

boutons_deux
05-14-2018, 10:44 AM
Trash-fellator, wealthy grifter Jeffres was chosen to rub his Biblical-hate in as many faces as possible.

Winehole23
05-14-2018, 12:02 PM
Good breakdown on the people wanting non-violent protests, Ghandi and Mandela inspired...how's that been working for them?

pgardn
05-14-2018, 07:40 PM
how's that been working for them?

Not well since they don’t try it.


What’s this method called?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/world/middleeast/gaza-protests-palestinians-us-embassy.html

Near Gaza City, a voice on a loudspeaker urged the crowd forward: “Get closer! Get closer!”
The charge was often led by women dressed in black, waving Palestinian flags and urging others to follow.

The atmosphere grew more charged after midday prayers, when more than 1,000 men gathered under a large blue awning. Officials from Hamas and other militant factions addressed the worshipers, urging them into the fray and claiming — falsely, to all appearances — that the fence had been breached and that Palestinians were flooding into Israel.


Under urging protester forward despite the risks.

The leaders of Hamas, Fatah, Yassir Arafat stopped living like their people when the money rolled in. They sold out to violence for cash. Pinprick missles from Gaza and suicide calls. Israel is, especially now with Trump, perfectly able to supply blood.

boutons_deux
05-17-2018, 08:09 AM
Trevor fucks Trash so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nDkgRE-QeI&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=B3Hd8bLiAKkdi9Rt-6

boutons_deux
05-18-2018, 08:57 AM
NYT's Thomas Friedman Explains How Trump Screwed Up the Israel Embassy Deal:

'They're Laughing at Him'

Our 'Art of the Deal' president made a really bad one.

Trump had promised peace in the Middle East,

and assigned son-in-law Jared Kushner to achieve it. Yet, Friedman noted

they've already bungled their shot at any kind of deal.

He argued that Trump had a chance to make a deal for the embassy by demanding Israel give a little too. Friedman suggested the deal be to "freeze all Israeli settlements in densely-populated areas in the West Bank, to preserve that zone for the two-state solution" in exchange for the new capital and embassy.

Cooper noted that example "would have been the Art of the Deal," citing Trump's famous book.

"That would have been the Art of the Deal.

Trump did the Art of the Giveaway," Friedman retorted.

He could have a leverage. Instead

he gave away the most valuable diplomatic real estate in the Middle East treasure box and he gave it away for free.

Believe me, in jerusalem they are laughing at him.

In the Arab world they're laughing at him.

They can't believe what a sucker he was to take that bait and give it away for free

when he could use it,

he could have used it for leverage to truly advance the peace process."

https://www.alternet.org/nyts-thomas-friedman-explains-how-trump-screwed-israel-embassy-deal-theyre-laughing-him

All Trash cares about is Jews' and End Timers' $100Ms for his bank account

pgardn
05-21-2018, 07:10 AM
Why Paraguay?

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/after-the-u-s-guatemala-paraguayan-embassy-to-move-to-jerusalem-1.6099346

From Israel’s own oldest newspaper.

And I hold to the claim that the Arab States intent on funding suicide elements within legitimate rallies,and BN, get their lifeblood from the same backwards hate money. The money that buys violence to perpetuate its own existence. Arab leaders and Iran have traditionally not given a shit about Palestinians, and either has the right in Israel. The most legitimate talking points concerning the Palestinian situation come from fresh grass roots Palestinian movements, and the Israeli left.

pgardn
05-21-2018, 07:21 AM
The ideal situation would be a UN recognized Palestinian Embassy to the UN in East Jerusalem.

Problem is that their is no legitimate Palestinian group to bargain with because they have all been bought off or killed. So Israel can claim there is no legitimate Palestinian government or organization. They need leaders who live among (live and feel the poverty) them who can’t be bought so they actually can actually represent the situation as it now stands. These elements exist. But both extremes want them dead or neutered.

boutons_deux
06-28-2018, 03:45 PM
NEW HOUSE BILL WOULD EMPOWER DONALD TRUMP TO PUNISH U.S. COMPANIES THAT BOYCOTT ISRAEL (https://theintercept.com/2018/06/28/israel-boycott-law-bds/)

THE HOUSE COMMITTEE on Foreign Affairs unanimously passed a measure on Thursday that would give the Trump administration power to decide how to punish U.S. companies that engage in or promote boycotts of Israel — including through criminal penalties.

Royce’s effort to move his version out of the Foreign Affairs Committee is part of a push to reinvigorate Capitol Hill’s efforts to use statutory means to clamp down on the growing movement to boycott, divest from, and sanction the Jewish state for human rights violations against the Palestinians.

the most dangerous version of the bill yet, because it delegates the lawmaking power to the Trump administration.

bill to direct the administration to issue regulations that prohibit U.S. companies from involvement with the BDS movement, as it is known.

The bill covers those companies that attempt to “comply with, further, or support” United Nations or European Union calls for a boycott of Israel, including merely by “furnishing information” about them.

“consistent with the enforcement practices” of the 1979 Export Administration Act (https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-93/pdf/STATUTE-93-Pg503.pdf) — which allows for a range of

civil and criminal penalties (http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:50%20section:4610%20edition: prelim)) topping out at a maximum of $1 million fine and 20 years in prison.

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/28/israel-boycott-law-bds/

Repugs letting AIPAC dictate, aka BUY with their $10Ms donations, American foreign policy.

So American foreign is now being run by Pootin and Jews :lol

boutons_deux
08-31-2018, 04:27 PM
US as "honest broker of peace" :lol

The US plans to end all support for UN agency that aids Palestinian refugees

The organization provides food, education, and health care for nearly 5 million refugees.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/31/17804262/palestinian-refugees-unrwa-funding-cut

Fils pourri JK gets bailed out by Arabs then shits on Muslims, while he is charged with solving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict :lol

Trash pandering to his base of evangelical Muslim-haters and End Timer assholes

boutons_deux
09-08-2018, 04:21 PM
Evangelicals loving how Trash is screwing, killing the Palestinians

Trump cuts $25 million in aid for Palestinians in East Jerusalem hospitals

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-palestinians-hospitals/trump-cuts-25-million-in-aid-for-palestinians-in-east-jerusalem-hospitals-idUSKCN1LO0O0?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

Spurtacular
09-08-2018, 10:55 PM
Evangelicals loving how Trash is screwing, killing the Palestinians

Trump cuts $25 million in aid for Palestinians in East Jerusalem hospitals

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-palestinians-hospitals/trump-cuts-25-million-in-aid-for-palestinians-in-east-jerusalem-hospitals-idUSKCN1LO0O0?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

If they want to be an autonomous state, they should try acting like an autonomous state.