Game Thread: Spurs @ Suns -- Sat. (12/9) - 8:00/C (4:00am Riga Time)

[BatManu20]

Quick turnaround as we're in PHX tonight to take on a 9-18 Suns team who have lost 7 of their last 9. Manu, Pau, and Tony are out tonight. Danny is listed as questionable. Devin Booker is out for Phoenix as well. Will be up to our young guys and LMA to carry the load tonight. Let's get it.


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Alex Len and Tyson Chandler are available for Phoenix tonight.

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[r0drig0lac]

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damn, I really think suns wins today.

[BatManu20]

Nick Wright is such a blowhard :lol

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[Robz4000]

Nick Wright is such a blowhard :lol

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:rollin

[BatManu20]

damn, I really think suns wins today.

Maybe, but they're 9-18 on the season and missing their best player tonight.. no reason why we can't steal this one on the road tonight, even on a b2b. Won't be easy, but we can do it.

[dabom]

Kawhi is a fucking Alpha in the Playoffs. Why would the Spurs take a beta. :lol

[Robz4000]

Wish the Spurs would've played Tony tonight; he could give it a go for 20 mins. If LDN is also out (most likely) this has the makings of a loss, but I didn't expect them to win both of these games anyway.

[BatManu20]

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[TheGreatYacht]

TJ Warren is gonna torch us for 40 while his inferior, Fathead, watches on the bench.

Suns by 35 imo.

[raybies]

do phoenix fans ever see our full roster play lol

[gospursgojas]

do phoenix fans ever see our full roster play lol

Lol. Do the ever see ANY team’s full roster? They seem like the logical choice for any team to take a rest game.

[raybies]

Lol. Do the ever see ANY team’s full roster? They seem like the logical choice for any team to take a rest game.
lmao

[raybies]

I expect to see summer Forbes tonight for some reason

[BillMc]

I expect to see summer Forbes tonight for some reason

Summer Forbes eclipsing the Suns would(will) be a sight to see.
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damn, I really think suns wins today.

Nah. :lma got this. My touches only has one more game until sharing time with :claw He'll try and rock it.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Seeing as how Manu was the hero last night and we're playing in PHX tonight, here's a throwback to his dominant road performance against them back in 2005 (almost 13 years ago!).


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[Ron Swanson]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsC8zEgZEfo

[TheDoctor]

Let’s GO :flag:

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[Fireball]

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[LittleCriminal]

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WOW

[BatManu20]

Danny officially out tonight.

939649905051791360 (https://twitter.com/spurs/status/939649905051791360)

[raybies]

hope we called up the scrubs for tonight

[dabom]

hope we called up the scrubs for tonight

Is tony playing?

[MVPCues]

Is tony playing?

Reported to be out also.

[LittleCriminal]

I really wanted to see Jaron Blossomgame called up for tonights game...

[dabom]

Reported to be out also.

Ok. Thanks.

[tonight...you]

Is tony playing?
Lol

[SAGirl]

Danny officially out tonight.

939649905051791360 (https://twitter.com/spurs/status/939649905051791360)
I am glad about Danny being out.
Better to let that thing heal. I have heard before groin injuries actually taking their time.

[dabom]

Spurs still have more talent than the Suns tonight.

[BackHome]

Just feed it down to Gay and LMA all night long.

Is White able to play since he broke his hand?

[tonight...you]

Just feed it down to Gay and LMA all night long.

Is White able to play since he broke his hand?
He played the other day and looked... okay.

[TheGreatYacht]

Is tony playing?
No but Flabby Mills is

[r0drig0lac]

I really wanted to see Jaron Blossomgame called up for tonights game...

[SAGirl]

It cannot be denied Rudy has swag.. :tu
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[BillMc]

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Nice vid. :bobo

[TD 21]

Gay/Bertans or Bertans/Gay
Paul/Gay or Gay/Paul
Aldridge/Lauvergne
Forbes/White
Murray/Mills or Mills/Murray

It made no sense that Hilliard and Costello weren't called up for the Thunder game and it'll make even less tonight if they're not. If this wasn't the exact scenario they were signed for, then why were they signed?

[Dex]

Wonder what the starting lineup will be. Mills/Forbes/Gay/Aldridge/Joff?

[Stabula]

Lol. Do they ever see ANY team’s full roster? Savage. Satan approves this post.

[raybies]

Gay/Bertans or Bertans/Gay
Paul/Gay or Gay/Paul
Aldridge/Lauvergne
Forbes/White
Murray/Mills or Mills/Murray

It made no sense that Hilliard and Costello weren't called up for the Thunder game and it'll make even less tonight if they're not. If this wasn't the exact scenario they were signed for, then why were they signed?
I agree man.

[tonight...you]

Nice vid. :bobo
Yeah, that was pretty cool. I'm really liking him on this team.

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[BillMc]

Yeah, that was pretty cool. I'm really liking him on this team.

Me too. Looking forward to Kawhi and Rudy and LMA sharing the floor. That's going to be hell on other teams.

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[tonight...you]

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That's why he's his bar of soap until the last sliver gets lost in his sphincter, in the shower.

[SAGirl]

Gay/Bertans or Bertans/Gay
Paul/Gay or Gay/Paul
Aldridge/Lauvergne
Forbes/White
Murray/Mills or Mills/Murray

It made no sense that Hilliard and Costello weren't called up for the Thunder game and it'll make even less tonight if they're not. If this wasn't the exact scenario they were signed for, then why were they signed?
I have been saying that since that game happened....

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[tonight...you]

I have been saying that since that game happened....
I would like to find reasoning one way, or the other on decisions like this.
There has to be reasons, even if they're wrong. Or right...

I just cannot reconcile, at this moment, the reasons why.

[Mr. Body]

That's why he's his bar of soap until the last sliver gets lost in his sphincter, in the shower.

Exactly what I was going to say.

[LakerHater]

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[BillMc]

A little rewind of Barkley's anti-Suns rant. Stale popcorn, cold nacho cheese...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp-f7ece-UU

[SAGirl]

I would like to find reasoning one way, or the other on decisions like this.
There has to be reasons, even if they're wrong. Or right...

I just cannot reconcile, at this moment, the reasons why.
I don't know. Hilliard I can understand not calling up because the team has way more guards than they can even find playing time for. I don't remember Derrick White playing that much in that game until basically the ending of the game and he's in an NBA contract and needs to play some, so it didn't make sense to call up Hilliard.

However, Costello should have been called up.

I have thought Pop just wanted to see a 3 big rotation in the second half of the OKC game and that was Joff/Kyle/Davis. They were going to get a beatdown with Adams in that game (Joff did at least, and fouled out too.) The last time Spurs played OKC b4 that game Pau got whacked in the head as Adams jumped over his back for a rebound (by the way, a foul wasn't called) and in the last 3 minutes of the 4th Q Kyle got hit in the face while trying to grab a rebound. Pop should have had Costello. I am thinking at the time Pop just wanted to give as many minutes as possible to Davis and JOff, who had not been playing much at all (Davis has only picked up minutes since that game after Kyle's injury, the irony). So I think it was a test of sorts for all 3. Still, should he have injuries or foul trouble what was he going to do? Exactly what he didn't plan for is what happened.

I am guessing for this one the gleaguers should be at the game. I hope for Spurs sake no one else gets injured.

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I don't know. Hilliard I can understand not calling up because the team has way more guards than they can even find playing time for. I don't remember Derrick White playing that much in that game until basically the ending of the game and he's in an NBA contract and needs to play some, so it didn't make sense to call up Hilliard.

However, Costello should have been called up.

I have thought Pop just wanted to see a 3 big rotation in the second half of the OKC game and that was Joff/Kyle/Davis. They were going to get a beatdown with Adams in that game (Joff did at least, and fouled out too.) The last time Spurs played OKC b4 that game Pau got whacked in the head as Adams jumped over his back for a rebound (by the way, a foul wasn't called) and in the last 3 minutes of the 4th Q Kyle got hit in the face while trying to grab a rebound. Pop should have had Costello. I am thinking at the time Pop just wanted to give as many minutes as possible to Davis and JOff, who had not been playing much at all (Davis has only picked up minutes since that game after Kyle's injury, the irony). So I think it was a test of sorts for all 3. Still, should he have injuries or foul trouble what was he going to do? Exactly what he didn't plan for is what happened.

I am guessing for this one the gleaguers should be at the game. I hope for Spurs sake no one else gets injured.
For better, or worse here we go.

[Spurtacular]

Wanted to bet this one. Was gonna lay the 8 points on the Spurs. But no overnight for this game was available. F'ing William Hill wankers.

[raybies]

I know this game should be ho hum, but I'm excited for this game.

[Dex]

Fuck the Suns, sons.

[Dex]

I know this game should be ho hum, but I'm excited for this game.

Same...get to see what the Austin Spurs can do.

[Ron Swanson]

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[Thunder1]

Get it done!!!

[raybies]

waited all day for this game. getting spoiled with all these games this week

[raybies]

Murray, Forbes, Paul, Gay Lma

[r0drig0lac]

forbes/murray backcourt

[Spurtacular]

League Pass cheaping out on me. I see no pregame action. Never been watching early this season; don't know if they stopped doing that or what.

[SAGirl]

suns are aweful.
TJ Warren lolz

[BatManu20]

Damn this PHX team sucks.

[TheGreatYacht]

Ulis is a pesky little defender. Murray hasn't been able to show his size thus far

[Thunder1]

Finally off to a fast start...

[BatManu20]

Murray is 6'5 with a 5'9 Uliss guarding him.. Get his ass in the post and shoot a baby jump hook every time tbh. DJ is letting Uliss bully him.

[SAGirl]

Suns aren't even trying.

[raybies]

man this place is lifeless. Phoenix body language is really bad. Spurs on the other hand look good

[Robz4000]

Awful Suns or not, the Spurs are still fatigued and missing six key players. This can get ugly in a hurry if the Spurs don't pile it on now.

[SAGirl]

man this place is lifeless. Phoenix body language is really bad. Spurs on the other hand look good
I don't even know what you do with that group. They look defeated from the get go

[raybies]

Funny thing is they have tons of talent imo they just don't have a good coach. For example, if a guy like Brad Stevens had this team they would be halfway decent

[raybies]

I don't even know what you do with that group. They look defeated from the get go
well last time they fired a coach they went on a 3 game winning streak so I guess you can just fire a coach every 10 games.

[SAGirl]

Is it safe to say Ulis is not an NBA caliber player to begin with?

[Robz4000]

:lmao Forbes

[BatManu20]

Bryn Forbes is a better 3-pt shooter than a FT shooter. Fascinating.

[raybies]

looks like Hilliard. they call him up

[SAGirl]

Brandon Paul man... he better take advantage of chances like this...

[Thunder1]

Forbes needs to spend some time working on his free throws...

[SAGirl]

Forbes needs to spend some time working on his free throws...
considering last nights game and that he played 35 minutes I am going to be understanding if he doesn't have his legs in good shape in this game.

I am expecting BP3 to do something.

[raybies]

what a chump lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Why aren't we riding the L-train to victory?

[Robz4000]

You can see all the bad body language you want, but they're slowly starting to take control of the game. Spurs can't figure it out on offense and the Suns are realizing the Spurs aren't as good a defense with a lot of key defenders out.

[MVPCues]

Worse fan attempt I have ever seen.

[Thunder1]

Patty & Davis already warmed up...

[r0drig0lac]

Bertans!!!!

[SAGirl]

Davis is hot early...
:toast

[raybies]

what was that Bert

[Ron Swanson]

Maybe try to get a rebound, Joffrey?

[Chinook]

You can see all the bad body language you want, but they're slowly starting to take control of the game. Spurs can't figure it out on offense and the Suns are realizing the Spurs aren't as good a defense with a lot of key defenders out.

Who is taking control?

[Robz4000]

Ridiculous how bad the FT shooting continues to be.

[Robz4000]

Who is taking control?

:lol works every time

[raybies]

the laser is on target tonight

[r0drig0lac]

one the best shooters in the league....

[Ron Swanson]

Holy shit. Make some FTs.

[SAGirl]

All the shots Davis missed against the Celtics, he's going to get them right back tonight.

[bklynspursfan]

Who is taking control?

I was confused too lol

[Robz4000]

Lauvergne is so terrible.

[TheGreatYacht]

Back to back turnovers by Fathead Jr.

Frank Mason III was on the board god damn it.

[raybies]

Lets go White.

[Chinook]

Lauvergne is so terrible.

Horrible pass by White, though. And then Derrick thought we needed to see a sequel to it on the next possession.

[bklynspursfan]

Dam Joff lol..

Heady play by Bertans, got the rebound and pulled it back out to burn more clock.

[Thunder1]

King Joffrey!!!!

[raybies]

there ya go Joff

[TheGreatYacht]

Horrible pass by White, though. And then Derrick thought we needed to see a sequel to it on the next possession.
:lol

[Robz4000]

Would be a 15+ point lead if this team could shoot freebies.

[SAGirl]

Davis is standing out.
Suns going after Davis this summer.

[Thunder1]

Hope we can keep up this level of effort for 3 more quarters...

[Robz4000]

Horrible pass by White, though. And then Derrick thought we needed to see a sequel to it on the next possession.

Regardless, outside that last second shot he's done nothing positive on either end. Would rather just go small at this point or throw Costello in there.

[SAGirl]

Regardless, outside that last second shot he's done nothing positive on either end. Would rather just go small at this point or throw Costello in there.
Pop has to give him minutes or cut him.
I don't know anything about what happens to his second year or whatever. But if he's on the roster he's going to play...

[Robz4000]

God I hate Troy Daniels. Averages like 6 points a game in his career but 15 against the Spurs.

[TheGreatYacht]

That fat slob Jared Dudley is still in the league?!?! Yikes thought he was an analyst now

[Robz4000]

Pop has to give him minutes or cut him.
I don't know anything about what happens to his second year or whatever. But if he's on the roster he's going to play...

It's like they play 6-on-4 whenever he's in.

[Chinook]

I'm not sure Joff is better than Ayres was. I mean, Jeff missed dunks, but at least he didn't try to do more than he could all the time.

[SAGirl]

dudley is so out of shape... emblematic of the current suns

[raybies]

memphis about to retire OKC tonight

[SAGirl]

I'm not sure Joff is better than Ayres was. I mean, Jeff missed dunks, but at least he didn't try to do more than he could all the time.
He's been so bad that ever since Ayres I don't remember any other big that bad in the Spurs.

[SAGirl]

nice pass on the pnr by Dijon

[SAGirl]

I'd like to see more from Dijon

[Chinook]

Just go for the score, Derrick. It's clear that your finishing is farther along than your play-making.

[SAGirl]

White has a good touch near the basket. better than Dijon's high floaters with a twisted waist...

[Robz4000]

That shot by Murray was :vomit:

[BatManu20]

Dejounte needs to do something besides brick 5-ft floaters, tbh. Needs to take advantage of opportunities like this.

[Dex]

dudley is so out of shape... emblematic of the current suns

I feel like Dudley has always been kind of out of shape (which is relative, obviously, to say about an NBA athlete).

Shades of Boris...could be a serious asset, but only if you are willing to put in the work (diet, gym, etc.)

Seeing Diaw with Charlotte and Utah in those seasons...dude definitely lost his fire. Glad he found it for a while when he was with S.A., but not surprised they let him go when they did.

[raybies]

Just out of curiousity what do yall see bad about Joff. He's been playing solid imo. A guy doesn't have to make every basket to be good. He's doing really well in the PnR, active on the glass. He's an energy big. I just don't know what y'all are seeing. He's not a star. His short hooks are good shots. He made those to start the season. He's got a splint on his hand... Maybe I got beer goggles on but I like what he brings to the team.

[boutons_deux]

Forbes FT 47% ?????

[Dex]

Just out of curiousity what do yall see bad about Joff. He's been playing solid imo. A guy doesn't have to make every basket to be good. He's doing really well in the PnR, active on the glass. He's an energy big. I just don't know what y'all are seeing. He's not a star. His short hooks are good shots. He made those to start the season. He's got a splint on his hand... Maybe I got beer goggles on but I like what he brings to the team.

Some people seem to expect us to have 12 All-Stars to be ready for the floor at any given time.

Joff brings that Lee energy. He is not going to put up 20-10 or anything, but he mixes it up inside for valuable minutes.

Lee would have been the better option, but it sounds like he was done with the game.

[SAGirl]

Nice shot by Brynnn...
but this suns team is so awful. can't take much away from this terrible rim protection

[bklynspursfan]

Just out of curiousity what do yall see bad about Joff. He's been playing solid imo. A guy doesn't have to make every basket to be good. He's doing really well in the PnR, active on the glass. He's an energy big. I just don't know what y'all are seeing. He's not a star. His short hooks are good shots. He made those to start the season. He's got a splint on his hand... Maybe I got beer goggles on but I like what he brings to the team.

I think there's some overreacting of course. we have also seen how big guys take longer to figure out our system.

The issue I've seen with him is his inability to convert on easy shots around the rim, something Lee was money on last year (not that he should produce like Lee did, but he gets similar opportunities) I think he's physical and does a decent job boxing out guys, seems like a strong dude and makes hustle plays.

I think he needs to work on his finishing ability, and continue to familiarize himself with the system

[Dex]

Forbes FT 47% ?????

Seems to be more comfortable with a jumpshot than a standing one. For such a confident shooter from deep, he fades on his free throws.

[Ron Swanson]

Dijon padding that rebound stat.

[Robz4000]

Holy shit that sequence.

:lmao Suns

[SAGirl]

Dijon had like 5 offensive rebounds in one sequence not a single one was blocked.
suns:lol

[GB20]

I liked that from Murray.

[LakerHater]

WOW!!!
LOVE how Murray crashes the boards!!!

[Mikeanaro]

Damn, Murray needed 4 attempts to get it done.

[BatManu20]

Lol Suns are so awful. Spurs better not fart around and lose this one tbh.

[spurs10]

That Suns team are rebounding kings! How many boards will Murray be awarded? :lol

[raybies]

I think there's some overreacting, because we have seen how big guys take longer to figure out our system.

The issue I've seen with him is his inability to convert on easy shots around the rim, something Lee was money on last year (not that he should produce like Lee did, but he gets similar opportunities) I think he's physical and does a decent job boxing out guys, seems like a strong dude.

I think he needs to work on his finishing ability, and continue to familiarize himself with the system
Yeah, in preseason he was converting at a high clip. So i see the finishing thing. I guess he gets tight during the season.

[Dex]

Nice shot by Brynnn...
but this suns team is so awful. can't take much away from this terrible rim protection

We are playing our C-squad, not really playing well...and still up comfortably by double digits.

I can't blame the audience for being in a goddamn coma.

I have family in Phoenix, and I know they desperately miss the days that the Suns were a competitive basketball team.

[raybies]

Some people seem to expect us to have 12 All-Stars to be ready for the floor at any given time.

Joff brings that Lee energy. He is not going to put up 20-10 or anything, but he mixes it up inside for valuable minutes.

Lee would have been the better option, but it sounds like he was done with the game.
I agree Lee was pretty solid.

[BatManu20]

Lol


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[Ron Swanson]

That Suns team are rebounding kings! How many boards will Murray be awarded? :lol

He currently has 9 rebounds, 6 of them are offensive rebounds. :lmao

[SAGirl]

Some people seem to expect us to have 12 All-Stars to be ready for the floor at any given time.

Joff brings that Lee energy. He is not going to put up 20-10 or anything, but he mixes it up inside for valuable minutes.

Lee would have been the better option, but it sounds like he was done with the game.
Joff is not even a homeless drunk version of Lee.

homer glasses for raybies are allowed. you too.

[BatManu20]

Not my phone btw.

[Chinook]

Just out of curiousity what do yall see bad about Joff. He's been playing solid imo. A guy doesn't have to make every basket to be good. He's doing really well in the PnR, active on the glass. He's an energy big. I just don't know what y'all are seeing. He's not a star. His short hooks are good shots. He made those to start the season. He's got a splint on his hand... Maybe I got beer goggles on but I like what he brings to the team.


Some people seem to expect us to have 12 All-Stars to be ready for the floor at any given time.

Joff brings that Lee energy. He is not going to put up 20-10 or anything, but he mixes it up inside for valuable minutes.

Lee would have been the better option, but it sounds like he was done with the game.

Joff is doing exactly what he's paid to do -- soak up minutes. He's a min guy, so the fact that he can't score, defend or even really catch isn't the worst thing in the world. His biggest issue is that he's too ambitious when he's on the floor. He won't just stick to what he's good at, and it pisses away possessions.

But far the biggest reason why people are bitching is because PATFO are leaving him as the third center while also playing big, meaning that Joff is going to get rotation minutes if anything from injury to foul trouble happens to his starters. It doesn't make sense.

[SAGirl]

man BP3 used to be able to shoot once upon a time.

[Ron Swanson]

Damn, Dijon. That was slick.

[bklynspursfan]

Murray with the nice move. I get the sense he's like WB going for rebounds tho lol

[SAGirl]

TJ Warren with a case of doing too much.

[raybies]

4 and 10 lol

[RD2191]

Lol


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1%? You sick bastard.

[Ron Swanson]

:lma

[bklynspursfan]

Great pass by Patty. he's gotten so much better as a playmaker this year

[SAGirl]

nice play orchestrated by Patty with Lamarcus

[raybies]

Joff is not even a homeless drunk version of Lee.

homer glasses for raybies are allowed. you too.
kiss my butt lol

[Robz4000]

Lead should be 20+. Too many mental lapses and poor decision-making by Murray.

[Dex]

But far the biggest reason why people are bitching is because PATFO are leaving him as the third center while also playing big, meaning that Joff is going to get rotation minutes if anything from injury to foul trouble happens to his starters. It doesn't make sense.

Pop has always been enamored with the twin tower defense. As antiquated as it may seem, it facilitates three of his staples: defensive rebounding, help defense, and post defense. He's not trying to cop the Warriors.

Tbh, people bitched about Pop playing small too...though we tried doing that shit with the turd towers and Keith fucking Bogans.

That being said...Joff was pretty much guaranteed to get big minutes when the Spurs decided to stock up on guards in the offseason. When you only have 3 legitimate bigs on your roster, they are gonna be out there when available.

[BillMc]

More Davis please.

[raybies]

Lead should be 20+. Too many mental lapses and poor decision-making by Murray.
who cares lol just get the win and we gucci

[daslicer]

Pop has always been enamored with the twin tower defense. As antiquated as it may seem, it facilitates three of his staples: defensive rebounding, help defense, and post defense. He's not trying to cop the Warriors.

Tbh, people bitched about Pop playing small too...though we tried doing that shit with the turd towers and Keith fucking Bogans.

That being said...Joff was pretty much guaranteed to get big minutes when the Spurs decided to stock up on guards in the offseason. When you only have 3 legitimate bigs on your roster, they are gonna be out there when available.

Pretty much this I'm all for the twin towers defense. It can still work in the league and plus like you said the Spurs have never won with small ball. We lived through the turd towers era with Bonner,Blair,Bogans. Spurs have never won with small ball defense. They have won with medium ball with Duncan/Diaw and Duncan/Oberto.

[SAGirl]

Joff is doing exactly what he's paid to do -- soak up minutes. He's a min guy, so the fact that he can't score, defend or even really catch isn't the worst thing in the world. His biggest issue is that he's too ambitious when he's on the floor. He won't just stick to what he's good at, and it pisses away possessions.

But far the biggest reason why people are bitching is because PATFO are leaving him as the third center while also playing big, meaning that Joff is going to get rotation minutes if anything from injury to foul trouble happens to his starters. It doesn't make sense.
Both great points Chinook.
1. its fine that he's a min guy, but he's not getting a spot like it so one expects him to play like a rotation player and he doesn't look like on. Maybe he wasn't projected to be out of the rotation but he has fallen out.
2. he does suffer from a case of trying to do too much at times.
3. not sure he's even a center. he's been played as a PF b4 ... doesn't block shots or protect the rim. DAvis is kinda much better at that now. Davis is getting his minutes and is kind of nice player on his own. Pop has got to figure out how to play all his forwards more, and that may mean 2 big lineups less... at least the traditional kind. I don't know if Pop really intended to play 2 bigs with Joff as a rotation player, when he got Rudy, Kyle and Davis who are better players available. Doesn't make sense.

[raybies]

Pretty much this I'm all for the twin towers defense. It can still work in the league and plus like you said the Spurs have never won with small ball. We lived through the turd towers era with Bonner,Blair,Bogans. Spurs have never won with small ball defense. They have won with medium ball with Duncan/Diaw and Duncan/Oberto.
the blair days bring back nightmares. what a waste of good years

[raybies]

I believe before the year is done Joff is gonna turn some heads. Just got to get him healthy again. He was a monster in the OKC game

[Chinook]

Pop has always been enamored with the twin tower defense. As antiquated as it may seem, it facilitates three of his staples: defensive rebounding, help defense, and post defense. He's not trying to cop the Warriors.

Tbh, people bitched about Pop playing small too...though we tried doing that shit with the turd towers and Keith fucking Bogans.

That being said...Joff was pretty much guaranteed to get big minutes when the Spurs decided to stock up on guards in the offseason. When you only have 3 legitimate bigs on your roster, they are gonna be out there when available.

Playing big is fine when Pau is performing well. But Pop should have been more serious about acquiring a big who could play rotation minutes behind them if that's what he wanted. Joff's a min-caliber guy getting a min-caliber contract, but the team had more than the min to offer and required a better-than-min performance from his roster spot.

[SAGirl]

kiss my butt lol
I am allowing you homer glasses. no need for ass kissing. :nope

[raybies]

Playing big is fine when Pau is performing well. But Pop should have been more serious about acquiring a big who could play rotation minutes behind them if that's what he wanted. Joff's a min-caliber guy getting a min-caliber contract, but the team had more than the min to offer and required a better-than-min performance from his roster spot.
I think they planned to play LMA and Pau at all times for the most part and that's why we only have 3 bigs. Which would basically put Joff at 3rd string center, for the minimum.

[raybies]

alright here we go

[Thunder1]

Great pass by Patty. he's gotten so much better as a playmaker this year
Now that you mention it..btw, a pretty solid effort so far from this outfit...not perfect, but the effort is there...I think BP is just in a slump..

[Robz4000]

who cares lol just get the win and we gucci

Agreed, but I can't see Phoenix missing that many shots in the second half. Having a bigger lead would help make it matter less.

[Ron Swanson]

Dijon passed up a layup and we turned it over.

[SAGirl]

Well BP3 is not going to have a breakout season.

[Chinook]

Simmons with a great line today. As his owner in the STFBBLII, I am quite pleased. That -13 is lol though.

[SAGirl]

Tyson Chandler doesn't even jump at this point in his career. I used to remember that guy had a lot more pep

[raybies]

Simmons with a great line today. As his owner in the STFBBLII, I am quite pleased. That -13 is lol though.
I said he might be the next Jackson but the dude more like Gerald Wallace

[SAGirl]

I believe before the year is done Joff is gonna turn some heads. Just got to get him healthy again. He was a monster in the OKC game
I'll root for him if he does... right now he hasn't been good. If he turns the lights on, I'll be happy for him and team.

[Thunder1]

Tyson Chandler doesn't even jump at this point in his career. I used to remember that guy had a lot more pep
Father Time takes no prisoners...

[Chinook]

Rudy with that "Watch out, lil nigga," moment with Murray.

[sasaint]

Well BP3 is not going to have a breakout season.

Name a first year young gun who did have a breakout season under Pop. But the season is barely past the quarter pole. So I am hopeful that BP3 is just in a slump and will bounce back.

[Ron Swanson]

Nice airball

[sasaint]

Tyson Chandler doesn't even jump at this point in his career. I used to remember that guy had a lot more pep

I suspect he would play with more pep if he weren't stuck on a horrible team. He still wouldn't be jumping out of the gym, though.

[Ron Swanson]

BP3 with the LDN impersonation.

[Robz4000]

LDN-esque

[sasaint]

BP3 with the LDN impersonation.

Haha! :tu

[SAGirl]

nice hustle block in transition by BP3

[Robz4000]

Suns aren't missing now. This is what I was worried about.

[sasaint]

We are getting a little lackadaisical and sloppy, and they are starting to get back into this thing. This game ain't over by a long shot.

[SAGirl]

Davis had to let that dunk go frankly

[raybies]

my nigga joff

[Ron Swanson]

Really sloppy

[raybies]

We are getting a little lackadaisical and sloppy, and they are starting to get back into this thing. This game ain't over by a long shot.
phx is like a blackhole for passion and desire to win tbh

[Robz4000]

Spurs are gonna choke this, aren't they?

[Ron Swanson]

19-7 run for PHX

[Mikeanaro]

Guys need to wake up.

[SAGirl]

If there is one thing mike James can do is get hot in a hurry and shoot a flurry from 3.

[sasaint]

Spurs' scrubs thinking they can mail this in, and Pop not bothering to do anything to stop the bleeding.

[Robz4000]

:lmao freethrows

[SpurPadre]

We got the wrong Lannister, tbh. I'd rather have Tyrion...

[TheGreatYacht]

Fatty Mills led units :lmao

[sasaint]

50Mills brick.

[Thunder1]

Can't believe it is now a 2 pt. game..

[SAGirl]

I feel sad for Joff now.
This doesn't look good for him.

edit: misses hook shots but at least he can shoot FT

[raybies]

my nigga joff

[Ron Swanson]

PATTY!

[sasaint]

Pop just presiding benignly over this hemorrhagic performance. SMH!

[bklynspursfan]

Patty!!

[SpurPadre]

I feel sad for Joff now.
This doesn't look good for him.

Tyrion has more skills than Joffrey, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Awful quarter for Bertans. On both ends

[Thunder1]

Patty!!!

[Robz4000]

Mills saving the Spurs a bit there at the end. Still, horrific game-managing by Pop tonight per par.

[raybies]

BALA PADDY

[Mikeanaro]

Fuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, MVPatty.

[GB20]

never mind :lol

[SAGirl]

good game for "the closer" to get hot tbh.:toast

[raybies]

Pop just presiding benignly over this hemorrhagic performance. SMH!
good word usage.

[sasaint]

Awful quarter for Bertans. On both ends

Giving back tonight everything he gained last night.

[Robz4000]

Getting sick of the Spurs blowing big leads.

[raybies]

Portland 00

[raybies]

dabom gonna be preaching tonight

[TheGreatYacht]

Giving back tonight everything he gained last night.
I thought he was even worse last night tbh. Not a fan. I can see why he has some fans though... he's your Austin Daye chucking type.

[Ron Swanson]

Nice defense by Joffrey

[sasaint]

Joff taketh and giveth right back.

[raybies]

dang Joff was about to sing your praises

[TheGreatYacht]

Get Bertans out of there Jesus Christ. Negative player if I've ever seen one

[Ron Swanson]

Shoot it, Bryn.

[sasaint]

Need to save Davis for another game.

[SAGirl]

Name a first year young gun who did have a breakout season under Pop. But the season is barely past the quarter pole. So I am hopeful that BP3 is just in a slump and will bounce back.
He doesn't look aggressive at times and passes up shots... since he's a kind of veteran who played in several teams overseas I consider him like Davis, or veterans that come from Europe, they tend to know their games better and be more polished than college rooks who sometimes don't even know their games that well within a team setting when they aren't the college star anymore... playing like a roleplayer is an art that players who have played professionally have learned. He may just be in a funk. Sometimes his aggressiveness is lacking.

[raybies]

gosh phx is awful

[sasaint]

Ugly. But we will take the FTs. Oops! Spoke too soon.

[Ron Swanson]

Free throws. :lmao

[GB20]

Get Bertans out of there Jesus Christ. Negative player if I've ever seen one
stop lying dude!!

[Robz4000]

:lmao freethrows

[Robz4000]

Fuck off Murray

[sasaint]

He doesn't look aggressive at times and passes up shots... since he's a kind of veteran who played in several teams overseas I consider him like Davis, or veterans that come from Europe, they tend to know their games better and be more polished than college rooks who sometimes don't even know their games that well within a team setting when they aren't the college star anymore... playing like a roleplayer is an art that players who have played professionally have learned. He may just be in a funk. Sometimes his aggressiveness is lacking.

Even so, not many young guys - euros or collegians - have breakout seasons in season 1 with the Spurs.

[Ron Swanson]

Not this guy!

[Mikeanaro]

Pride Parade is dunkin´it.

[SAGirl]

BP3 with the defense though... :tu

[sasaint]

I wish Pop had stayed home to make it a lucky 7 and left the coaching tonight for Messina.

[Robz4000]

That was a clean block.