Game Thread: Spurs @ Mavs -- Tue. (12/12) - 7:30/C (3:30a RigaTime) *Kawhi's Return!

[raybies]

i can't watch the game... keep looking on the bench

[SAGirl]

Davis sighting... now that the game is going the Mavs way.

[ElNono]

Smh Danny League

[bklynspursfan]

Missing some quality looks. Need more post ups

[Ice009]

Bryn fucking sucks. Clank, clank, clank. Can't hit open looks consistently. And why isn't Kawhi playing at least another 6 minutes? He doesn't need 1/3 of a game. His injury wasn't a major one to limit hiS minutes this much. 24 minutes would have been fine.

[boutons_deux]

12 pt swing against spurs

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker needs to quit passing to these brick layers.

[bklynspursfan]

Seemed like an obvious foul by Dirk on LMA

[BanditHiro]

embarrassing pg defense

[TheGreatYacht]

If Danny's girl gives birth to Mexican midgets. Y'all know why.

[Ice009]

PATHETIC. FUCKING PATHETIC.

[ElNono]

:lmao this lineup

[timtonymanu]

The offense is horrid

[SAGirl]

Can't hate Barea. That dude has heart.

[resistanze]

Poop treating Kawhi with kid gloves tbh

[daslicer]

Really hoping this injury with Kawhi is not going to be a long term problem . This could get Derick Rose ugly.

[Ice009]

Spurs are going to end up on a losing streak.

[bklynspursfan]

Bryn fucking sucks. Clank, clank, clank. Can't hit open looks consistently. And why isn't Kawhi playing at least another 6 minutes? He doesn't need 1/3 of a game. His injury wasn't a major one to limit him minutes this much. 24 minutes would have been fine.

He would play similar minutes if this was pre-season, give or take a couple. He hasn't played competitively in like 6-7 months. These first few games are his pre season

[ElNono]

Bryn fucking sucks. Clank, clank, clank. Can't hit open looks consistently. And why isn't Kawhi playing at least another 6 minutes? He doesn't need 1/3 of a game. His injury wasn't a major one to limit hiS minutes this much. 24 minutes would have been fine.

:pop: Rest prevents injuries. Ask Kyle

[Mikeanaro]

Will Pop do the right thing?
Or he will keep motivating muh touches? is not working tonight.

[raybies]

frickin Barea

https://media.giphy.com/media/WfzAqr8DWGnzW/giphy.gif

[sasaint]

Can't hate Barea. That dude has heart.

Honorable mention all-time Spur killer.

[SAGirl]

+/- king doing what he does
raybies with the underrated humor

[Ice009]

He would play similar minutes if this was pre-season, give or take a couple. He hasn't played competitively in like 6-7 months. These first few games are his pre season

I think he would have played around 24 minutes in a preseason game, so I still don't see any reason why he couldn't have played a bit more. Again, it wasn't a major injury. If he was this far off, he shouldn't have come back yet. Should have made his debut at home.

The resting also didn't help. This team looks way out of wack.

[Thomas82]

Dammit, thought Kawhi would get the 20 min limit.

I heard Sean say when he went out that it was probably it for him.

[bklynspursfan]

We got this

[TheGreatYacht]

Contract year Danny League these last 30 days LMFAOOO :lmao

[ElNono]

Contract year Danny League these last 30 days LMFAOOO :lmao

rofl

[K...]

oh god that was weak danny

[daslicer]

He would play similar minutes if this was pre-season, give or take a couple. He hasn't played competitively in like 6-7 months. These first few games are his pre season

I understand where you are coming from but its' definitely going to suck ass if Pop only plays Kawhi 16 minutes these next few games. The reason it sucks is because it throws off the team's rhythm.

[SAGirl]

Honorable mention all-time Spur killer.
yea, I think he qualifies.

[K...]

So Forbes hit a shot, got cocky, missed a bunch, and is now shot shy?

[TheGreatYacht]

Like I said.... Alpha Parker needs to stop passing to these clowns

[raybies]

Lets go parker

[ElNono]

HOTS :wow

[Robz4000]

:lmao Freethrows

[bklynspursfan]

I think he would have played around 24 minutes in a preseason game, so I still don't see any reason why he couldn't have played a bit more. Again, it wasn't a major injury. If he was this far off, he shouldn't have come back yet. Should have made his debut at home.

The resting also didn't help. This team looks way out of wack.

That's just Pop being extra cautious probly. But Kawhi was winded. Dude never gets tired, so he's still gotta get his wind back. Hopefully next game he gets a couple more minutes in the 20+ range, with 2 days off and a chance to hopefully scrimmage with the team

[K...]

HOTS HOTTTS

[ElNono]

:lmao Freethrows

[sasaint]

I think he would have played around 24 minutes in a preseason game, so I still don't see any reason why he couldn't have played a bit more. Again, it wasn't a major injury. If he was this far off, he shouldn't have come back yet. Should have made his debut at home.

The resting also didn't help. This team looks way out of wack.

I won't be surprised if we look better without Kawhi coming down the stretch. Not used to playing with Kawhi yet.

[K...]

but yeah, forbes should have shot it there

[tholdren]

I think he would have played around 24 minutes in a preseason game, so I still don't see any reason why he couldn't have played a bit more. Again, it wasn't a major injury. If he was this far off, he shouldn't have come back yet. Should have made his debut at home.

The resting also didn't help. This team looks way out of wack.

What did you expect? They went through the off season and 20plus games without their star. Reinserting him into the lineup and trying to figure it all out with him being a high usage player... whole dynamic changes.

[TheGreatYacht]

Holy shit Forbes held it down against Matthews.

Best defensive SG on the team by wiiiiiiiiiiiide margin

[bklynspursfan]

I understand where you are coming from but its' definitely going to suck ass if Pop only plays Kawhi 16 minutes these next few games. The reason it sucks is because it throws off the team's rhythm.

Him playing was going to throw off the rhythm regardless, just because the team has to change how they play/adapt. So idk if it matters how much he plays. Guys are also just missing some good looks

[sasaint]

No T on Matthews?!

[raybies]

Good D FOrbes

[Ron Swanson]

This team is so bad at FTs

[Robz4000]

An NBA team should not be this bad at freethrow shooting. Spurs should be ashamed of themselves.

[SpurPadre]

Fucking free throw shooting...

[TheGreatYacht]

Their midget drilling threes while ours misses. Story of our season

[BanditHiro]

upset day. (D) Doug Jones win Alabama and Mavs beat Spurs.

[tholdren]

This team is so bad at FTs

Staple of sa basketball since 1997

[ElNono]

Fatty getting roasted by the unknown Nigerian

[Robz4000]

Yeah, this one's over. JJ Barea did them in again.

[BatManu20]

Make your damn FT's.

[Ice009]

Wow. What a pathetic performance. Bryn Forbes is a fucking scrub. Can't hit free throws at all.

[SAGirl]

Mavs moving the ball much better than the Spurs. Some of it is rust. But I believe a lot of it is simply that the gears don't mesh.

Outside of Ginobili very few guys are making plays for other ppl tonight.

I have to say it.. team misses Kyle.

[bklynspursfan]

Aldridge has missed a few bunny's

[raybies]

:wow MAVS can't miss

[TheGreatYacht]

Lamarsha has completely lost his ball sack now that our alpha is back

[Robz4000]

In before someone says JJ Barea is a Spurskiller too.

Good call :tu

[Thomas82]

It's starting to get away from us.

[sasaint]

They hitting everything and we missing everything. Smh! Losing to the Mavs? :wow

[BatManu20]

Mavs having their best shooting performance of the year tonight, naturally

[Spurtacular]

Sad. Not even being outplayed. Just terrible execution.

[TheGreatYacht]

Outside of Ginobili very few guys are making plays for other ppl tonight.

I have to say it.. team misses Kyle.
Yeah. Kyle's 3 assists a night were very missed tonight

[Uriel]

:lmao Spurs
:lmao Full strength
:lmao Losing to the fucking 7-20 Mavericks

[timtonymanu]

Smh bad loss to a lottery team. Everyone was in “save us Kawhi :cry” mode.

Also good to see 50 Million putting us in a good position to win again with letting Yogi score and bricking on the other end.

[Darius Bieber]

:lmao Spurs
:lmao Full strength
:lmao Losing to the fucking 7-20 Mavericks

[hater]

My asshole burns like a puerto rican hokaer

[ElNono]

They hitting everything and we missing everything. Smh! Losing to the Mavs? :wow

Losing the first hame Kawhi is back? :wow

[raybies]

They hitting everything and we missing everything. Smh! Losing to the Mavs? :wow
Won't get mad if we lose this game as long as Kawhi is fine.

[Darius Bieber]

No more excuses with Kawhi in there. This team is fucking trash.

[Ice009]

Worst performance of the season.

Man, can we just leave Popovich in Dallas and hire Rick instead. You all can rate Pop in your top 5 coaches of all time. He's not in mine anymore. Rest, rest, rest, rest, rest. Fucking great strategy. Rest so they can suck even more ass later on in the season when they need to be conditioned. Give them a game off so they can come out looking like dogs against one of the bottom teams in the league.

[ElNono]

Outside of Ginobili very few guys are making plays for other ppl tonight.

I have to say it.. team misses Kawhi.

fify

[vander]

:lmao Spurs
:lmao Full strength
:lmao Losing to the fucking 7-20 Mavericks

Full strength?

[hater]

Lmao manure

He sucks

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This spurs team is one of the two worst of the decade, just too much dead weight.

[Ice009]

I won't be surprised if we look better without Kawhi coming down the stretch. Not used to playing with Kawhi yet.

Nope. Kawhi was one of the only players playing good. I could see the rest of them looked like shit, so that is one reason I wanted more minutes from him.

[ElNono]

Poop with no answer for Rick, per par

[Robz4000]

Powell having a career game again too. Works out for my fantasy team I guess.

[TheGreatYacht]

Anyone know what channel Fox News is on DirectTV? I HAVE to see this meltdown :lmao

[raybies]

Dallas is so bad, this one win against us would make their season...

[K...]

is it over? yeah it is , ufck you fake game thread

[sasaint]

Outside of Ginobili very few guys are making plays for other ppl tonight.

I have to say it.. team misses Kyle.

Didn't you say it already? But I have to say... having Kyle will not help 1) our shooting or 2) the grinding of two high usage gears.

[bklynspursfan]

Outside of Ginobili very few guys are making plays for other ppl tonight.

I have to say it.. team misses Kyle.

I think they had like 17 assists at half, they were moving it well. It didn't look as fluid but there was some ball movement.

Going 6/25 from 3 won't help anything either

[timtonymanu]

Thank god Dallas is not a playoff team. They have so many players fit to kill the Spurs in a series but do jack shit against anyone else.

[Ice009]

Patty Mills, Tony Parker, Bryn Forbes. The Spurs won't win shit with that kind of putrid defense at the PG position. Looks like Pop is desperate bringing Murray out there. Might have to consider getting him in the rotation even with his inept offense just so the PG defense isn't so embarrassing.

[UZER]

I understand where you are coming from but its' definitely going to suck ass if Pop only plays Kawhi 16 minutes these next few games. The reason it sucks is because it throws off the team's rhythm.

Pop has never.....ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.....cared about rhythm, be it a qtr, game, or series. He pulls players because his note cards in his coat pocket tell him to.

[TimDunkem]

I blame this Roy Moore of game threads.

[bklynspursfan]

Rudy with that Defense

[wingster]

Oh cool...game thread meltdown per par.
Pathetic

[timtonymanu]

Hopefully Dejounte is working on his jumpshot while being benched. It’s the only way he’s gonna play.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Poop with no answer for Rick, per par

Without doubt, Poop has always been Rick's bitch.

[ElNono]

Rudy wants it

[Robz4000]

:lol Patty Mills literally can't guard anyone out there

[raybies]

Oh cool...game thread meltdown per par.
Pathetic

[Spurtacular]

Mills defense has been more brutal than usual this game.

[bklynspursfan]

Not one of LMA's better games. 9/22 and missing some very makeable shots.

Just one of them days. This loss will be worth it if it means an angry focused team vs the Rockettes

[Robz4000]

Not one of LMA's better games. 9/22 and missing some very makeable shots.

Just one of them days. This loss will be worth it if it means an angry focused team vs the Rockettes

No one is gonna play in that game.

[Darius Bieber]

Not one of LMA's better games. 9/22 and missing some very makeable shots.

Just one of them days. This loss will be worth it if it means an angry focused team vs the Rockettes

lmao Rockets will run train on this trash team

[Dverde]

Mavs didn’t play great, Spurs just crapping the bed.

[bklynspursfan]

Oh cool...game thread meltdown per par.
Pathetic

You know how it goes here. Season is over , fire Pop, trade LMA, RC is drunk, Murray would've been the difference, Kawhi is soft for not playing more, etc.... Covers most of it

[raybies]

need to play perfect here on out

[Hoops Czar]

Pop needs to retire.

[timtonymanu]

:lol Patty Mills literally can't guard anyone out there

50 Million :lmao. Spurs can get the next Timmy in the draft, I will always lower them a grade for this Mills re-signing.

[TheGreatYacht]

WHAT CHANNEL IS FOX NEWS ON DIRECTTV? I CANT MISS THIS MELTDOWN

[raybies]

No one is gonna play in that game.
New rules. Nationally televised game. Everyone who can play will play. There's no excuse.

[Ice009]

Oh and as much as you ALL don't want to admit it. Jonathon Simmons is better than half the scrubs on this team. It wasn't a choice between Rudy and J. Simms. They easily could have had both Rudy and J. Simms.

Brandon Paul, he's nowhere near Simmons. He's starting to look like Melvin Sanders (can't even remember his last name). A short bulldog on defense that's ineffective.

[james evans]

just what I feared is happening. Leonard is back and Aldridge doesn't look dominant anymore. wtf

[UZER]

Worst performance of the season.

Man, can we just leave Popovich in Dallas and hire Rick instead. You all can rate Pop in your top 5 coaches of all time. He's not in mine anymore. Rest, rest, rest, rest, rest. Fucking great strategy. Rest so they can suck even more ass later on in the season when they need to be conditioned. Give them a game off so they can come out looking like dogs against one of the bottom teams in the league.

A to-the men!

[MVPCues]

I couldn't watch the game. How did Kawhi look?

[NASpurs]

:lmao Dejounte wtf

[bklynspursfan]

Rudy/Kawhi the lone bright spots

[Hoops Czar]

New rules. Nationally televised game. Everyone who can play will play. There's no excuse.
Maybe he meant nobody will be watching.

[sasaint]

Worst performance of the season.

Man, can we just leave Popovich in Dallas and hire Rick instead. You all can rate Pop in your top 5 coaches of all time. He's not in mine anymore. Rest, rest, rest, rest, rest. Fucking great strategy. Rest so they can suck even more ass later on in the season when they need to be conditioned. Give them a game off so they can come out looking like dogs against one of the bottom teams in the league.

Maybe top 5 of all-time. But I will definitely take Carlisle at this point.

Tonight again, Pop just presiding benignly over a meltdown. Game ends with Spurs holding 2 timeouts.

[raybies]

just wasn't our game.

[Robz4000]

New rules. Nationally televised game. Everyone who can play will play. There's no excuse.

Pop doesn't give a shit.

[SAGirl]

Get Well Soon Kyle tbh

[Ice009]

Got darn Murary, you low IQ twit. You should be benched for the rest of the season. WE NEED A FUCKING THREE and you're still too scared to take a jumper. Fucking scrub.

[timtonymanu]

Fucking Murray. He’s gotta stop with the Manu Ginobili “Pop has to get use to me” statement when he doesn’t even possess the basketball IQ.

[Hoops Czar]

I couldn't watch the game. How did Kawhi look?
Kawhi looked pretty good, rest of the team, not so much. I wonder if That's a coincidence.

[bklynspursfan]

Oh and as much as you ALL don't want to admit it. Jonathon Simmons is better than half the scrubs on this team. It wasn't a choice between Rudy and J. Simms. They easily could have had both Rudy and J. Simms.

Brandon Paul, he's nowhere near Simmons. He's starting to look like Melvin Sanders (can't even remember his last name). A short bulldog on defense that's ineffective.

Simmons would not have been happy with someone else having the ball at that wing position off the bench

[TimDunkem]

BatManu's game thread privileges need to be revoked.

[Leetonidas]

Meh. Some of y'all need to chill lol. Spurs just couldn't find their shot tonight. It happens tbh

[raybies]

time to bump the cliff jumper threads and gutless worms thread over one game. People got let down :cry lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Murray driving instead of shooting :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

Ditka couldn't have stopped the Mavs tonight.

[NASpurs]

Anyone know what channel Fox News is on DirectTV? I HAVE to see this meltdown :lmao

360

[bklynspursfan]

7/28 from 3 and 12/19 from the FT line. Simple things

[raybies]

Pop doesn't give a shit.
we'll see

[Ice009]

Simmons would not have been happy with someone else having the ball at that wing position off the bench

He should have been given the chance. Manu is too old to do it consistently. Simmons should have been given the chance. If it didn't work out or he was complaining, you could trade him.

[bklynspursfan]

Meh. Some of y'all need to chill lol. Spurs just couldn't find their shot tonight. It happens tbh

+1

[Hoops Czar]

Someone needs to remind Tyler Perry that He's got no game, stop pretending.

[timtonymanu]

Fucking Dallas Try Hards. Hoped that fucked up your lotto pick getting a pointless win.

[raybies]

He should have been given the chance. Manu is too old to do it consistently. Simmons should have been given the chance. If it didn't work out or he was complaining, you could trade him.
Did you see what Manu did to Boston? I'd rather have those moments than a whole season of Simmons exploring his growth.

[Ice009]

And Bryn Forbes is in scrub territory for me. His shooting doesn't translate over to games that much. Might be a great practice shooter, but when you can't hit free throws and you're supposed to be a great shooter, that's a bad sign.

If I shoot anything less than 80% from the free throw line I'd be mad as hell at myself. I don't think I ever have shot less than 80% at the stripe.

[sasaint]

Nope. Kawhi was one of the only players playing good. I could see the rest of them looked like shit, so that is one reason I wanted more minutes from him.

Under the circumstances, individually Kawhi was awesome. But the offense was really clunky.

[SpurPadre]

So, we beat Boston without our best player and then lose to one of the laughingstocks in the league WITH our best player. Yeah, that makes sense...

[vander]

Meh. Some of y'all need to chill lol. Spurs just couldn't find their shot tonight. It happens tbh

Spurs have a lot of "3 point Shooters" that often can't find their shot. Green needs to go along with Mills, not sure if Forbes is worth a huge pay raise

[TheGreatYacht]

NASpurs My nigga holy shit. Clutch as hell

[Robz4000]

7/28 from 3 and 12/19 from the FT line. Simple things

Only both have been a big issue all season. Kawhi coming back will help to an extent, but he can't fix everyone's shot. Should be Chip's job but it doesn't seem like he's done much the past few years.

[timtonymanu]

We’re pretty damn awful on the road so far. Night and day from the home record.

[daslicer]

Boring game boring loss. Not much to really say here.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Pop needs to retire.

Becky would've done a better job than that old prune. Poop just shrivels up at the sight of Rick on the other bench.

[sasaint]

Only both have been a big issue all season. Kawhi coming back will help to an extent, but he can't fix everyone's shot. Should be Chip's job but it doesn't seem like he's done much the past few years.

You said it. Kyle...?

[sasaint]

We’re pretty damn awful on the road so far. Night and day from the home record.

Not a typical Spurs road team at all. The RRT will be a real litmus test.

[bklynspursfan]

Only both have been a big issue all season. Kawhi coming back will help to an extent, but he can't fix everyone's shot. Should be Chip's job but it doesn't seem like he's done much the past few years.

3 point shooting is a bit down, but they are 8th at right around 80% from the FT line. FT shooting is about the same as last year, 3 point is like 3% down. Still plenty of time to turn it around

[SpurPadre]

Becky would've done a better job than that old prune. Poop just shrivels up at the sight of Rick on the other bench.

Someone just needs to tell him it's not Rick, it's Ace Ventura: Pet Detective.

[sasaint]

Someone just needs to tell him it's not Rick, it's Ace Ventura: Pet Detective.

:lmao

[Robz4000]

You said it. Kyle...?

Kyle's shot is awful, Murray's is nonexistent, Green is still inconsistent as hell, and the rest of the team is nothing to write home about either in terms of improvement. That doesn't even get into the horrid free throw shooting.

[raybies]

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didnt see this

[sasaint]

Spurs have a lot of "3 point Shooters" that often can't find their shot. Green needs to go along with Mills, not sure if Forbes is worth a huge pay raise

Do not agree with dumping Danny. Forbes will not get a huge pay raise, but he will get more than he is making now. I would like to see the Spurs keep him. Still a lot of games left to see if he is worth it.

[Robz4000]

3 point shooting is a bit down, but they are 8th at right around 80% from the FT line. FT shooting is about the same as last year, 3 point is like 3% down. Still plenty of time to turn it around

Because of LMA. When you take out his team leading FTA at near 87%, it drops to 70%. On a per game basis that's like leaving 4-5 points free points at the line which is unaccetable. Hell, if you give those points to the Spurs tonight they most likely win this game.

As for the 3-point shooting, 3% is a huge dropoff tbh. Kawhi coming back will help, but it can't be ignored how badly Manu and Gasol have fallen off and how bad Mills has looked from three most of the season; 28 games is too big of a sample size to ignore.

[Ice009]

Did you see what Manu did to Boston? I'd rather have those moments than a whole season of Simmons exploring his growth.

The word you needed to read is CONSISTENTLY. That's great Manu can do that in one game early in the season. He's likely not going to do that later in the season or the playoffs because his gas tank isn't that big anymore. Simmons would have been very helpful. People say his defense wasn't great, but I still think he was one of the top 4-5 defenders on the team and getting better. He may be loafing on defense in Orlando, but when engaged on that end of the court here, he was decent.

It's great that Kawhi is back, but I can't take watching Pop's mechanical bullshit rest patterns.

Pop sucks at improvisation, the flow of the game, playing the hot hand etc. or if someone is OK physically, still not knowing you don't have to stick to those mechanical preordained rest times and patterns. how is there less of a chance of injury if that player is feeling good and playing well by limiting them to a specific time set out before the game? I've never seen this carried on as long as Pop is going with this before. Is there some kind of science I'm not aware of if a player coming back from injury doesn't play more than 16 or 20 minutes he can't get injured in those 16 or 20 minutes, but the injury chances go way up after that?

Here's an analogy of what I think of Pop's in game adjustments and improvisation - On one end of the spectrum you have Charlie Parker, one of the best improvisers of all time, so let's just say that is Phil Jackson, Rick Carlisle. Pop is more like Kirk Hammett of Metallica (one of the most overrated of all time). Fucking awful.

[SAGirl]

Didn't you say it already? But I have to say... having Kyle will not help 1) our shooting or 2) the grinding of two high usage gears.
He helps on defense a lot + rebounding and the last game against the Mavs he had 4 steals and made clutch plays to close the game out. One was that steal and pass to Patty.

It's not necessarily him scoring since he's so unselfish but giving someone else a quality shot, plus making defensive plays. Last 2 Mavs games, he closed them out.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Completely forgotten about Kyle, haven't noticed his absence at all.

[raybies]

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Pop asked if Kawhi is fine...

[SAGirl]

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[raybies]

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[Ice009]

940780720389279749

didnt see this

Shit. Neither did I. So is Kawhi alright or not. He never should have come back in this game. Should have made his debut at home. Could be a losing streak coming up. 90% chance of that as the Rockets are going to be darn near impossible to beat on the road with a way out of whack Spurs team.

Maybe Pop can put that game too and give them more rest for the next Dallas game. Fucking pathetic coach.

[Ice009]

At least Kawhi's alright. I'm just not happy with the coaching.

[raybies]

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[duncan2k5]

Barea is an NBA champion... midget he might be, but dude has heart.

so is patty...no excuse to be scrubbing it up vs barea

[sasaint]

He helps on defense a lot + rebounding and the last game against the Mavs he had 4 steals and made clutch plays to close the game out. One was that steal and pass to Patty.

It's not necessarily him scoring since he's so unselfish but giving someone else a quality shot, plus making defensive plays. Last 2 Mavs games, he closed them out.

I appreciate what he has brought to the team. But I still say that tonight he wasn't going to cause our guys' good looks to go down or improve a clunky offense that has to accommodate two high usage players. Kyle's game will suffer (and Danny's will, too). Going forward, Kyle will not have the ball in his hands or have the same opportunities to impact games that he has thus far this season. I know you agree that Kyle is better when he he can handle the ball some and be a facilitator. That is not going to happen with Kawhi and LMA both playing. We are going to see more of the ineffective, off-the-ball Kyle.

[tholdren]

Interesting how bad pau looks w kawhi. Same as last year

[raybies]

I appreciate what he has brought to the team. But I still say that tonight he wasn't going to cause our guys' good looks to go down or improve a clunky offense that has to accommodate two high usage players. Kyle's game will suffer (and Danny's will, too). Going forward, Kyle will not have the ball in his hands or have the same opportunities to impact games that he has thus far this season. I know you agree that Kyle is better when he he can handle the ball some and be a facilitator. That is not going to happen with Kawhi and LMA both playing. We are going to see more of the ineffective, off-the-ball Kyle.
I could even argue three. Parker is pretty heavy when he plays. Pau only had two shots. Maybe he was hesitant or whatever but he didn't play his game. My eye test is that he didn't get much usage at the top of the circle with high lows etc. Didn't pay excessive attention to him though as my eyes were locked on Leonard.

[Budkin]

So, we beat Boston without our best player and then lose to one of the laughingstocks in the league WITH our best player. Yeah, that makes sense...

Today’s NBA

[duncan2k5]

Holy shit Forbes held it down against Matthews.

Best defensive SG on the team by wiiiiiiiiiiiide margin

wait, what??

[Robz4000]

Embiid is made of glass, dude just hurt himself again (looks serious too).

[coachmac87]

We’re pretty damn awful on the road so far. Night and day from the home record.

Best observation of the night. Legit concern and isn't an emotional knee jerk...

Biggest concern of the season so far tbh.

[tholdren]

spurs are better without kawhi

Yep. But kl is the most talent the spurs have. Rock and hard place

[SAGirl]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100Spurs



STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge)PF
38
9-23
0-1
5-6
4
9
13
2
0
0
3
0
+5
23


K. Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard)SF
16
6-12
1-4
0-0
1
5
6
1
1
1
0
0
+8
13


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol)C
22
0-2
0-1
0-0
1
8
9
2
0
0
1
2
-1
0


T. Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker)PG
24
3-9
0-2
0-1
0
5
5
3
1
0
1
1
+1
6


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green)SG
24
1-6
1-4
0-0
0
3
3
1
0
2
2
2
+1
3


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans)SF
4
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
-2
0


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay)SF
27
8-11
2-2
3-4
2
3
5
1
1
2
0
1
-16
21


J. Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne)C
6
2-2
0-0
0-0
1
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
-3
4


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
24
3-8
2-5
0-0
1
2
3
3
1
0
2
0
-7
8


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
5
0-1
0-0
0-0
0
2
2
0
0
0
0
2
+3
0


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili)SG
27
1-5
0-4
3-4
0
1
1
3
0
0
0
2
-6
5


B. Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2488911/brandon-paul)SG
3
0-0
0-0
0-2
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
-2
0


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
21
2-8
1-5
1-2
0
1
1
4
0
0
0
0
-11
6


TEAM

35-87
7-28
12-19
10
39
49
20
4
5
10
11

89




40.2%
25.0%
63.2%

[tholdren]

I could even argue three. Parker is pretty heavy when he plays. Pau only had two shots. Maybe he was hesitant or whatever but he didn't play his game. My eye test is that he didn't get much usage at the top of the circle with high lows etc. Didn't pay excessive attention to him though as my eyes were locked on Leonard.

Look at how worthless pau is when kl dominates the possession.

[SAGirl]

He should have been given the chance. Manu is too old to do it consistently. Simmons should have been given the chance. If it didn't work out or he was complaining, you could trade him.
Dude... Simmons has been losing games left and right in Orlando... seriously.
He's one of their worst if not the worst rotation player there.

[duncan2k5]

Yep. But kl is the most talent the spurs have. Rock and hard place

u guys cant be serious...so u really think we win more games this year without kawhi than last year? i pray to god he leaves

[duncan2k5]

Dude... Simmons has been losing games left and right in Orlando... seriously.
He's one of their worst if not the worst rotation player there.

magic fans who actually watch the games disagree...but i guess you know more than them

[SpurPadre]

Today’s NBA

Except for the Dubs, who would've curbstomped this Mavs team tonight by 20 without Curry.

[raybies]

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[daslicer]

Except for the Dubs, who would've curbstomped this Mavs team tonight by 20 without Curry.

Warriors obsession gets annoying. I have to say who cares.

[ernest787]

magic fans who actually watch the games disagree...but i guess you know more than them

nah.. she knows everything from reading a box score and not watching games. she also thinks LMA is just keeping the PF spot warm for fathead, LOL

[Ice009]

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Almost exactly what I fucking said. I said he was starting to look good and was the only player that was playing well when he got yanked.

[SAGirl]

I appreciate what he has brought to the team. But I still say that tonight he wasn't going to cause our guys' good looks to go down or improve a clunky offense that has to accommodate two high usage players. Kyle's game will suffer (and Danny's will, too). Going forward, Kyle will not have the ball in his hands or have the same opportunities to impact games that he has thus far this season. I know you agree that Kyle is better when he he can handle the ball some and be a facilitator. That is not going to happen with Kawhi and LMA both playing. We are going to see more of the ineffective, off-the-ball Kyle.

That is still to be seen, but it wouldn't surprise as Gasol has fallen off as well.

At least he will get paid this summer and head elsewhere tbh.

[Ice009]

Dude... Simmons has been losing games left and right in Orlando... seriously.
He's one of their worst if not the worst rotation player there.

You guys just don't want to admit he's a good player. He's not as bad as people are making him out to be. We've got worse players in the rotation that if you put them in Simmons' spot on the Magic, the Magic would do even worse.

[SpurPadre]

Warriors obsession gets annoying. I have to say who cares.

We should care if we want our team to hoist the LOB trophy in June, tbh.

[sasaint]

Look at how worthless pau is when kl dominates the possession.

Actually, I was impressed that Pau remained very engaged despite the fact he wasn't involved in the offense. He was very active on the boards. Nor is it simply Kawhi. It is the combination of 2 high usage players. Pau with LMA alone is okay. I think Pau with Kawhi alone would be okay. But the offense tonight was the same as last year's. Kawhi and LMA together reduce ball movement and, hence, the effectiveness of all the other players on the team. In the post-game, the normally passive, soft-balling interviewers were asking LMA if he thought that he and Kawhi could get together in an effective offense. I think that is pretty telling...

[duncan2k5]

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kawhi with the passive aggressive digs at his minutes restrictions...i like it! coaching staff isnt perfect

[SAGirl]

You guys just don't want to admit he's a good player. He's not as bad as people are making him out to be. We've got worse players in the rotation that if you put them in Simmons' spot on the Magic, the Magic would do even worse.
If he was winning games you'd be right on the money, but he ain't. He's highly overrated... but you are free to have your opinion.

[daslicer]

We should care if we want our team to hoist the LOB trophy in June, tbh.

Again don't care about the Warriors. I will worry about them when the Spurs have to play them in the playoffs. The masturbating over the Warriors in here gets real old after a period time. The Warriors are stacked team with 2 top 5 players and a top 25 player. So nobody should be shocked when they win games without Curry or Durant.

[duncan2k5]

Actually, I was impressed that Pau remained very engaged despite the fact he wasn't involved in the offense. He was very active on the boards. Nor is it simply Kawhi. It is the combination of 2 high usage players. Pau with LMA alone is okay. I think Pau with Kawhi alone would be okay. But the offense tonight was the same as last year's. Kawhi and LMA together reduce ball movement and, hence, the effectiveness of all the other players on the team. In the post-game, the normally passive, soft-balling interviewers were asking LMA if he thought that he and Kawhi could get together in an effective offense. I think that is pretty telling...

last year spurs were 7th in assists...this year we are 12th....what makes you think the ball movement was better last year? lol...spurs were one of the most effective teams last year...do u guys even watch and understand basketball? shit takes if ive ever seen shit takes

[SAGirl]

Actually, I was impressed that Pau remained very engaged despite the fact he wasn't involved in the offense. He was very active on the boards. Nor is it simply Kawhi. It is the combination of 2 high usage players. Pau with LMA alone is okay. I think Pau with Kawhi alone would be okay. But the offense tonight was the same as last year's. Kawhi and LMA together reduce ball movement and, hence, the effectiveness of all the other players on the team. In the post-game, the normally passive, soft-balling interviewers were asking LMA if he thought that he and Kawhi could get together in an effective offense. I think that is pretty telling...
then you add in Tony... he also likes to score the basketball it has to be said.

Pop has to figure things out.

Rudy is another Iso player frankly.

[SAGirl]

Embiid is made of glass, dude just hurt himself again (looks serious too).
thats too bad...:depressed

[sasaint]

Yep. But kl is the most talent the spurs have. Rock and hard place

I think Kawhi is perfectly suited to playing in any offense the Spurs care to run - and happy to do so. All of his raw stats have improved through the years because Pop has incrementally abandoned the ball-movement and moved to the Kawhiso/LMA-iso game. I don't think Kawhi is particularly concerned about his touches or stats. I don't think it is his ambition to be like Kobe or LeBron or Harden. I think He is a product of Pop's obsession to turn such a gifted player as Kawhi into a machine like those guys.

[SAGirl]

Anyways, lack of chemistry was expected. Hopefully they figure it out.

[sasaint]

then you add in Tony... he also likes to score the basketball it has to be said.

Pop has to figure things out.

Rudy is another Iso player frankly.

We have some talented players, but a team that has not been very carefully constructed - going back to LMA's initial signing. Although I have been fairly impressed with Rudy's willingness to move the ball. He ain't Melo.

[SAGirl]

We have some talented players, but a team that has not been very carefully constructed - going back to LMA's initial signing. Although I have been fairly impressed with Rudy's willingness to move the ball. He ain't Melo.
He's much better. Much better than Barnes too.
Have to appreciate him while he's here.

[sasaint]

Anyways, lack of chemistry was expected. Hopefully they figure it out.

I thought so, too. But it isn't like the other starters didn't have a whole year with Kawhi. And some recent practices. I just fear these gears don't mesh. I hope I am wrong.

[Robz4000]

thats too bad...:depressed

Turned out to be nothing. He did roll around on the ground crying for a bit tho.

[sasaint]

Turned out to be nothing. He did roll around on the ground crying for a bit tho.

:lol Good one!

[SAGirl]

Turned out to be nothing. He did roll around on the ground crying for a bit tho.
:lol
Guys here actually making fun of Kyle who's gotten hit in the face several times this season and kaput his knee... and Embiid gives 76ers fans a scare crying over nothing???
:lmao
Today's NBA right?

[sasaint]

:lol
Guys here actually making fun of Kyle who's gotten hit in the face several times this season and kaput his knee... and Embiid gives 76ers fans a scare crying over nothing???
:lmao
Today's NBA right?

Just for the record I was not making fun of Kyle - you know I am a fan of his. The allusion was very funny though.

Kyle will still be a Spur next season partly because he has proven himself to have a lot of toughness in addition to skill and BBIQ.

[SAGirl]

Just for the record I was not making fun of Kyle - you know I am a fan of his. The allusion was very funny though.

Kyle will still be a Spur next season partly because he has proven himself to have a lot of toughness in addition to skill and BBIQ.
I really, really hope so. He also helps the team's chemistry a lot and that is going to be shaky when Manu retires.. which I would no longer predict but it may just happen when you really least expect it bc he's come back each season we thought was it for several years already.

I am just in a negative funk about Spurs not re-signing their young guys, so my pessimism shows up here and there. I do think Spurs want him back and he has fit in and is happy so I think both parties will try to make it work.

My vague reference about the trolling over his knee injury was for tholdren... but he's probably someone not worth referencing even vaguely.

[raybies]

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[BackHome]

Pop gets a freakin F grade terrible coaching

[NASpurs]

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:lmao

[Robz4000]

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Was thinking the same thing before the game but didn't think it was worth mentioning. Guess the Mavs really did take it personally.

[raybies]

Was thinking the same thing before the game but didn't think it was worth mentioning. Guess the Mavs really did take it personally.
they legit played it like the...

https://media.giphy.com/media/RXnGCRcf9sCl2/giphy.gif

[Fireball]

just watched the game ... what a bummer ... could blame dabom for making shitty game threads a day too early but the Spurs just sucked ass

[r0drig0lac]

Was thinking the same thing before the game but didn't think it was worth mentioning. Guess the Mavs really did take it personally.
haha who cares? fucking shit lottery team

[jeebus]

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didnt see this
12 shots in 16 minutes. Kobe 2.0 is BACK

[NameLess Scrub]

Why did Kawhi go to the locker room with the doctors? Is he ok?

[Horse]

Incredible how fucking retarded the majority of you are. I expected them to win but who didn’t see this coming. Also it’s december so give it a break.

[TheDoctor]

Why did Kawhi go to the locker room with the doctors? Is he ok?
Apparently once he reached his restrictions minutes he went to the locker room to receive his “normal-after-game-treatments”.

[NameLess Scrub]

Apparently once he reached his restrictions minutes he went to the locker room to receive his “normal-after-game-treatments”.

Thanks

I hope it's just regular treatment and precaution.

[hater]

Kstephen Kawhawkins looks like a slower more injured Kyle Anderson out there

His midrange game wont work

[ernest787]

Was at the game. Kawhi definitely looked tired out there very fast. I'm guessing it takes until January before we really see him in the full swing of things.

People freaking out over the loss last night and asking about the offense are nutty. The Spurs offense was fine last night except for them not hitting shots. There is going to be a period of adjustment, but the flashes of what Gay/Kawhi/LMA are going to be together is scary.

[boutons_deux]

"The Spurs offense was fine last night except for them not hitting shots."

:lol

[raybies]

Was at the game. Kawhi definitely looked tired out there very fast. I'm guessing it takes until January before we really see him in the full swing of things.

People freaking out over the loss last night and asking about the offense are nutty. The Spurs offense was fine last night except for them not hitting shots. There is going to be a period of adjustment, but the flashes of what Gay/Kawhi/LMA are going to be together is scary.
solid post

[LaMarcus Bryant]

"The Spurs offense was fine last night except for them not hitting shots."

:lol




Eh, kinda true. Danny missed 2 very very wide open 3s. He makes those, maybe Pop doesn't go micro ball, maybe keeps Danny in, and maybe Juanito Joseito Barrea doesn't have a cake walk to the rim the entire 2nd half.
We tend to forget how dependent this team is on Danny 3's to be excellent.

[BatManu20]

Was at the game. Kawhi definitely looked tired out there very fast. I'm guessing it takes until January before we really see him in the full swing of things.

People freaking out over the loss last night and asking about the offense are nutty. The Spurs offense was fine last night except for them not hitting shots. There is going to be a period of adjustment, but the flashes of what Gay/Kawhi/LMA are going to be together is scary.

:tu

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[rjv]

forbes shot was off all night from the lucky three he banked in to his free throws. dude just wasn't feeling it.

[SAGirl]

It's just bittersweet for the team to lose on Kawhi's first game back.

They will be better.

[daslicer]

It's just bittersweet for the team to lose on Kawhi's first game back.

They will be better.

The loss didn't bother me considering that it looks like the Spurs are going to be stuck in the third seed all year unless Houston or the Warriors gets some serious injuries.

[spurraider21]

most important victory though was this thread going 25 pages to dabom's 10 :lol

[SAGirl]

most important victory though was this thread going 25 pages to dabom's 10 :lol
:lol

Dabom shouldn’t have cared frankly. Could have been polite about it joined in and be fine. He was such a douche about the whole thing...

[r0drig0lac]

Dabom vs SAGirl definitely the biggest rivalry in ST

[SAGirl]

Dabom vs SAGirl definitely the biggest rivalry in ST
Probably for him.

[tonight...you]

I missed the fun after the 1st half. Wife got sick...

[SAGirl]

I missed the fun after the 1st half. Wife got sick...
HOpe she's better. You didn't miss anything worth watching.

[BatManu20]

most important victory though was this thread going 25 pages to dabom's 10 :lol


:lol



:lol

Dabom shouldn’t have cared frankly. Could have been polite about it joined in and be fine. He was such a douche about the whole thing...


Tbh :tu

[raybies]

I missed the fun after the 1st half. Wife got sick...
yeah man my condolences. I took my daughter to the dr yesterday, my other today, and my youngest had to be picked up from school with high fever. Texas feeling the weather...