15:17 To Paris

[Spurtacular]

Warning: This movie may contain content offensive to crybaby snowflake libtards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC_lnyn2R2Q

[koriwhat]

clint eastwood... enough said!

[Chucho]

What's going to trigger them? Whites being heroes and stopping some filthy terrorist from doing terrorist things?

[Spurtacular]

What's going to trigger them? Whites being heroes and stopping some filthy terrorist from doing terrorist things?

That sounds like the half of it.

[Pavlov]

Cool and weird how the guys are playing themselves.

[AaronY]

What's going to trigger them? Whites being heroes and stopping some filthy terrorist from doing terrorist things?
We democrats root for the terrorists in these movies so it is pretty distressing. Still pissed John McClane never got offed in any of those movies

[monosylab1k]

We democrats root for the terrorists in these movies so it is pretty distressing. Still pissed John McClane never got offed in any of those movies

I remember watching True Lies and wishing Arnold was replaced by a black transexual Muslim so that I could stop rooting for the terrorists tbh.

[Spurtacular]

We democrats root for the terrorists in these movies so it is pretty distressing.

You go to battle for them in real life, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

I remember watching black transexual Muslim porn and liking it. It was just this morning, actually.

[ElNono]

Hopefully it's not 85 mins of "life story" and 5 mins of the actual train action, tbh...

[Pavlov]

Hopefully it's not 85 mins of "life story" and 5 mins of the actual train action, tbh...I don't see how it could be anything other than exactly that.

[dabom]

Hopefully it's not 85 mins of "life story" and 5 mins of the actual train action, tbh...

Actual faggotacular, "omg someone do something... omg he has a gun" pees pants*.. /cut.

[AaronY]

I remember watching True Lies and wishing Arnold was replaced by a black transexual Muslim so that I could stop rooting for the terrorists tbh.
See i hated that one because Muslims was bad guys so I totally blocked it out of my memory. I Like the Die Hards because like true liberal PC propaganda the bad guys are white. See that way all the bad and good people are white but then I still root for the bad guys because the moral should be white people are awful and they ruin everything

[AaronY]

In real life whites are never terrorists sadly. It'd be cool if like let's say Ireland had a bunch of white terrorists and they went around bombing people. But that would never happen and if it did they would be lefties anyway since Dems are the true terrorists. Certainly wouldn't be right wing and form some sort of "Republican Army" or some other nonsense fantasy

[dabom]

In real life whites are never terrorists sadly. It'd be cool if like let's say Ireland had a bunch of white terrorists and they went around bombing people. But that would never happen and if it did they would be lefties anyway since Dems are the true terrorists. Certainly wouldn't be right wing and form some sort of "Republican Army" or some other nonsense fantasy

Nazis were terrorists and white. It's American tradition to kills Nazis.

[AaronY]

Dang man wtf was they so pissed about?!?!

https://i.imgur.com/J0zRTdC.jpg

What was they taxing the Guinness or something?

[Quadzilla99]

I remember watching True Lies and wishing Arnold was replaced by a black transexual Muslim so that I could stop rooting for the terrorists tbh.
:lmao

[Xevious]

Cool and weird how the guys are playing themselves.
Weren't some of the actors in United 93 playing themselves (not the people on the plane obviously)?

[Splits]

I wonder if it will be as good as Pearl Harbor or Flight 93.

[vy65]

Looks boring af

[vy65]

Wait, is this another Judd Apatow bromance movie?

[Fabbs]

Bring it.

BTW which incident was this based on?

[Spurminator]

Of course, historically, it's been the liberals who go the most apeshit over movies they find offensive.

[Chucho]

Of course, historically, it's been the liberals who go the most apeshit over movies they find offensive.


The coloreds, tbh,

[Spurminator]

On a scale of 1 to "The Muppets Movie," this seems pretty tame.

[boutons_deux]

Of course, historically, it's been the liberals who go the most apeshit over movies they find offensive.

examples?

[Spurminator]

examples?

:rolleyes
Your complete lack of a sarcasm detector is starting to lead me to believe you think the Borowitz articles really are real.

[DisAsTerBot]

:rolleyes
Your complete lack of a sarcasm detector is starting to lead me to believe you think the Borowitz articles really are real.

:lol

[rjv]

i'd like to see clint make a movie about some crazy, white dude who has massive anger and hate issues and feels the need to go out and shoot a whole bunch of reason for no real reason.

[Quadzilla99]

examples?

Jesus, you're a dumbass man

[koriwhat]

You go to battle for them in real life, tbh.

yep

[Spurtacular]

i'd like to see clint make a movie about some crazy, white dude who has massive anger and hate issues and feels the need to go out and shoot a whole bunch of reason for no real reason.

He'll be sure to include the part in which he did it in the name of Allah.

:lmao

#FuckingIdiot
#Libtard

[hater]

Looks like a good movie but wonder why clint didnt make a mivie about mich larger events such as the truck attack in cannes or barcelona??

[Spurtacular]

Looks like a good movie but wonder why clint didnt make a mivie about mich larger events such as the truck attack in cannes or barcelona??

A movie with no heroes? Just incompetent globalists. Brilliant.

[Quadzilla99]

yep

How so?

[hater]

A movie with no heroes.

Just like real life tbqh

These fantasies that there are heroes roaming around combating terrorists is fucking stupid

[Spurtacular]

Just like real life tbqh

These fantasies that there are heroes roaming around combating terrorists is fucking stupid

Yea, you should apparently watch 15:17 To Paris, bruh.

But for what it's worth, I'd watch a movie that accurately depicted the incompetence of the globalists.

[rjv]

He'll be sure to include the part in which he did it in the name of Allah.

:lmao

#FuckingIdiot
#Libtard or christ. but eastwood would never target the real threat to america, which is america itself.

[DMC]

i'd like to see clint make a movie about some crazy, white dude who has massive anger and hate issues and feels the need to go out and shoot a whole bunch of reason for no real reason.

It's called "Rampage".

Clint wouldn't remake it.

[rjv]

It's called "Rampage".

Clint wouldn't remake it.

http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/2017/11/rampage_lead.jpg

[DMC]

http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/2017/11/rampage_lead.jpg

Same name, different concept. Read your own post, dimwit.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Rampage_Boll.jpg

[rjv]

Same name, different concept. Read your own post, dimwit.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Rampage_Boll.jpg

DMC and sarcasm:
https://i.imgur.com/k4wOseL.gif

[DMC]

DMC and sarcasm:
https://i.imgur.com/k4wOseL.gif

You mistake satire for sarcasm.

[rjv]

You mistake satire for sarcasm. really dude, you're taking this all too seriously. i hope you don't go on a rampage.

[DMC]

really dude, you're taking this all too seriously. i hope you don't go on a rampage.

With a gorilla?

[AaronY]

It's called "Rampage".

Clint wouldn't remake it.
Falling Down is pretty much like a perfect upper middle class Trumper type scenario. Shame most of the Trumpets are blue collar white trash tho I mean they're not gonna get fired from their office job working for the department of defens so doesn't apply perfectly

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You mistake satire for sarcasm.

:lol like the two concepts are mutually exclusive.

[Blake]

:lol like the two concepts are mutually exclusive.

Lol they're synonyms.

Message board victories are that important tho

[hater]

Falling Down is pretty much like a perfect upper middle class Trumper type scenario. Shame most of the Trumpets are blue collar white trash tho I mean they're not gonna get fired from their office job working for the department of defens so doesn't apply perfectly

Disagree the falling down michael douglas actually shoot a Trump supportr I believe

The owner of the gunstore was a typical trumps supporter and I believe Douglas shoots his face off

[hater]

Falling Down is actually a typical democrat white collar going Hillary Clinton on society

[Spurtacular]

Falling Down is actually a typical democrat white collar going Hillary Clinton on society
:lol Elaborate.

:lol Elaborate.

[Spurtacular]

Falling Down is pretty much like a perfect upper middle class Trumper type scenario. Shame most of the Trumpets are blue collar white trash tho I mean they're not gonna get fired from their office job working for the department of defens so doesn't apply perfectly

:lol You keep trying to pound that square peg into the round hole, dude.

[DMC]

Falling Down is pretty much like a perfect upper middle class Trumper type scenario. Shame most of the Trumpets are blue collar white trash tho I mean they're not gonna get fired from their office job working for the department of defens so doesn't apply perfectly

So blue collar workers are trash.

[DMC]

:lol like the two concepts are mutually exclusive.

For someone who has me on ignore, you sure read a lot of my posts :lol

[DMC]

Lol they're synonyms.

Message board victories are that important tho

So then "The Onion" is a sarcasm website.

Abstract concept is not your cup of tea.

[koriwhat]

How so?

women's march, puerto rican march, blm, refugee floodgates, etc... plus the idolization of loser marxists, lenins, etc.

[AaronY]

So blue collar workers are trash.
No no of course not. The Trump die hards in that group are tho like the white women who vote 70-30 for Roy Moore how would you characterize them? Rembering when you describe them that you guys wanna end political correctness

[AaronY]

A least not you DMC since you're not a trump die hard but like any of the Trumpers who say they want to end political correctness but then like appear in that Alabama Roy Moore supporter interview video that was on here. Then they would get upset if you used the term white trash on them

[AaronY]

Falling Down is actually a typical democrat white collar going Hillary Clinton on society
I dunno man iirc he's pretty obsessed with making things like they used to be before the country changed and got all ruined. Hillaryism for die hard libtards is all about embracing the changes in USA and "we're on the right side of history" etc changes that happened are good etc

[pgardn]

yep

I hate those Caucoid v. Caucoid movies.
Like WWII in Europe

So sad...

Russians fighting Nazis
Americans fighting Nazis

If it could just be US killing Japs and those greasy Italians.

[pgardn]

Looks like a good movie but wonder why clint didnt make a mivie about mich larger events such as the truck attack in cannes or barcelona??

Now we are talking, hater in da house.
The best excuse for annihilation of Central America.

[Spurtacular]

No no of course not. The Trump die hards in that group are tho like the white women who vote 70-30 for Roy Moore how would you characterize them? Rembering when you describe them that you guys wanna end political correctness

How would you apparently describe 70 percent of Alabama's white women?

[Spurtacular]

I dunno man iirc he's pretty obsessed with making things like they used to be before the country changed and got all ruined. Hillaryism for die hard libtards is all about embracing the changes in USA and "we're on the right side of history" etc changes that happened are good etc

:lmao IIRC the "Hillaryism changes" were pretty much hardcore bull shit. You may not like the reaction; but you're arguing against your own shit. :lmao

[DMC]

No no of course not. The Trump die hards in that group are tho like the white women who vote 70-30 for Roy Moore how would you characterize them? Rembering when you describe them that you guys wanna end political correctness

Rednecks aren't restricted to job class. Roy Moore isn't a blue collar worker, and he's the subject of your angst.

It's this "working man is deplorable" mantra, true or not, that cost the Dems the election last cycle.

[DMC]

A least not you DMC since you're not a trump die hard but like any of the Trumpers who say they want to end political correctness but then like appear in that Alabama Roy Moore supporter interview video that was on here. Then they would get upset if you used the term white trash on them

The whole Billy Bob republican thing is not very accurate. Most republicans I've met wear ties. I'm sure there are plenty out there who are just racist faggots with nothing but hatred for everything outside of their trailer parks, but they don't vote.

[AaronY]

The whole Billy Bob republican thing is not very accurate. Most republicans I've met wear ties. I'm sure there are plenty out there who are just racist faggots with nothing but hatred for everything outside of their trailer parks, but they don't vote.

I'm talking about the Trump die hard base which is heavy on dummies or as the PC Trump fans would call the "poorly educated" people. Trump lost college educated Republicans big time in the Republican primaries if you actually look at it (it's true look it up)

And one theory about why Moore lost Alabama was suburban more educated Republicans stayed home or voted for Jones not in a majority but in a higher rate than they would normally vote for a democrat

[AaronY]

How would you apparently describe 70 percent of Alabama's white women?
Well 70% didn't vote overall since many stayed home but among the ones who voted for Roy Moore? As white trash mostly sorry it's not politically correct to say it but it's true

[DMC]

I'm talking about the Trump die hard base which is heavy on dummies or as the PC Trump fans would call the "poorly educated" people. Trump lost college educated Republicans big time in the Republican primaries if you actually look at it (it's true look it up)

And one theory about why Moore lost Alabama was suburban more educated Republicans stayed home or voted for Jones not in a majority but in a higher rate than they would normally vote for a democrat

One thing about the GOP though is that they will all close ranks when the winner is decided, where as the dems will harbor resentment and might even vote opposite party. Different types of people. I think the GOP folks have an agenda that's based on personal goals and the dems think more from a community sense. This is the new schools, the old school folks are fairly close to each other in their ideals, they just have different ways to go about it. These days one party almost hates the other. It's too caustic, so when the election is over you have a divided nation that spends the next 4 years try to fuck each other over in court and in life.

[AaronY]

It's this "working man is deplorable" mantra, true or not, that cost the Dems the election last cycle.
Well regardless of whether it cost them the election it's true maybe not PC but true.

And I think the main thing the Alabama and Virginia results showed us is that trumpism minus Trump and/or not running against the Trainwreck that is Hillary doesn't really do very well. Honestly he didn't even win 50% the Republican primary votes overall. I'm beginning to wonder if guys like Kasich and Rubio had dropped out early if someone like Cruz could have even been beat him in the primaries if it was heads up. Like if it was just him and say Romney he might not have even won among Republican voters

[DMC]

Well regardless of whether it cost them the election it's true maybe not PC but true.

And I think the main thing the Alabama and Virginia results showed us is that trumpism minus Trump and/or not running against the Trainwreck that is Hillary doesn't really do very well. Honestly he didn't even win 50% the Republican primary votes overall. I'm beginning to wonder if guys like Kasich and Rubio had dropped out early if someone like Cruz could have even been beat him in the primaries if it was heads up. Like if it was just him and say Romney he might not have even won among Republican voters

It's a waste of time to wonder any of that. Until those in power learn to pretend they are closer to "fly over country" than they really want to profess to be (to their wealthy friends), they will continue to struggle against people who are better at telling the average worker what he wants to hear.

[AaronY]

One thing about the GOP though is that they will all close ranks when the winner is decided, where as the dems will harbor resentment and might even vote opposite party. Different types of people. I think the GOP folks have an agenda that's based on personal goals and the dems think more from a community sense. This is the new schools, the old school folks are fairly close to each other in their ideals, they just have different ways to go about it. These days one party almost hates the other. It's too caustic, so when the election is over you have a divided nation that spends the next 4 years try to fuck each other over in court and in life.

Yeah, honestly if Moore allegations had come out before the primaries he probably doesn't win the nomination same thing with the Trump Apprentice tapes if they came out in say 2015 he's probably not even around now. In a way I feel tiny bit bad for them since once those guys won the nominations and then they had to rationalize voting for them and enduring the ridicule that brought on them. I mean both those guys had horrible views otherwise bit the sex stuff was really indefensible.

Also, with 2016 so many hated Hillary they got out and voted anyway. and McConnell made a genius move of keeping that Supreme Court seat open. Doug Jones seemed like a decent guy so there were in no rush to get and vote against him like people did against Hillary

[DMC]

Yeah, honestly if Moore allegations had come out before the primaries he probably doesn't win the nomination same thing with the Trump Apprentice tapes if they came out in say 2015 he's probably not even around now. In a way I feel tiny bit bad for them since once those guys won the nominations and then they had to rationalize voting for them and enduring the ridicule that brought on them. I mean both those guys had horrible views otherwise bit the sex stuff was really indefensible.

Also, with 2016 so many hated Hillary they got out and voted anyway. and McConnell made a genius move of keeping that Supreme Court seat open. Doug Jones seemed like a decent guy so there were in no rush to get and vote against him like people did against Hillary
Hillary was the worst idea anyone has had in a long time. Actually, Hillary and Bernie as your choices? What the fuck? That's like McCain and Palin, one old crazy fuck and a neophyte dim bitch as a running mate.

I think Pence would have been a better choice, but he'd never win an election because no one ever heard of him. The DNC simply has nobody to push forward, so I think they'll keep going back to that same well trying to polish that turd.

[AaronY]

It's a waste of time to wonder any of that. Until those in power learn to pretend they are closer to "fly over country" than they really want to profess to be (to their wealthy friends), they will continue to struggle against people who are better at telling the average worker what he wants to hear.
I dunno man. Huge portion that base is what I'm talking about. Not the swing voters. Listen to these people

939335414288211968

You can't reason with them. Being nice to them it's not going to make them stop hating the Muslims and Mexicans and the Obamas while screeching about Benghazu and everyone else.

Like Chris or Derptacular here I'm going to be nice to them and reason with them they're all of a sudden going to vote Democrat? come on. They're lost causes

[DMC]

You can go around and cherry pick stupid responses from every different section of the population. It doesn't prove the entire group is faulty. There's a reason these people wanted Trump in office (over Hillary). People who have lost their jobs, about to lose their homes and such, don't see status quo or "my turn" democrat wives as making anything better for them. They think Trump is going to do some really radical shit to change their fortunes. It's easy for some of us who have seen steady to good increases in our retirement accounts, our home values, and incomes over the past 20 years to think we just need some minor adjustments, to worry about climate change, to have universal healthcare, etc... but when you're working your ass off and have nothing to show for it while the grocery stores are full of people with 4 shopping carts of groceries and a food stamp card, driving a new car, living in subsidized housing and never having to pay a medical bill... that shit weighs on them. Small business owners feel it as well as they see their profits diminish because they have to meet stringent guidelines that keep the big players fat and the mom and pop folks struggling.

Same as always, just different people pocketing the cash.

[Spurtacular]

Well 70% didn't vote overall since many stayed home but among the ones who voted for Roy Moore? As white trash mostly sorry it's not politically correct to say it but it's true

:lol You think it's the white trash voting and the non white trash staying home?
:lol Not how elections work, dude.

[AaronY]

:lol You think it's the white trash voting and the non white trash staying home?
:lol Not how elections work, dude.
It happened in that election which is why he lost.

And as for them being white trash, they voted for a child molester.

[Spurtacular]

It happened in that election which is why he lost.

And as for them being white trash, they voted for a child molester.

Poor dumb people don't vote; fact of life, bro.

[Spurtacular]

You can go around and cherry pick stupid responses from every different section of the population. It doesn't prove the entire group is faulty. There's a reason these people wanted Trump in office (over Hillary). People who have lost their jobs, about to lose their homes and such, don't see status quo or "my turn" democrat wives as making anything better for them. They think Trump is going to do some really radical shit to change their fortunes. It's easy for some of us who have seen steady to good increases in our retirement accounts, our home values, and incomes over the past 20 years to think we just need some minor adjustments, to worry about climate change, to have universal healthcare, etc... but when you're working your ass off and have nothing to show for it while the grocery stores are full of people with 4 shopping carts of groceries and a food stamp card, driving a new car, living in subsidized housing and never having to pay a medical bill... that shit weighs on them. Small business owners feel it as well as they see their profits diminish because they have to meet stringent guidelines that keep the big players fat and the mom and pop folks struggling.

Same as always, just different people pocketing the cash.

Preach.

[AaronY]

You can go around and cherry pick stupid responses from every different section of the population. It doesn't prove the entire group is faulty. There's a reason these people wanted Trump in office (over Hillary). People who have lost their jobs, about to lose their homes and such, don't see status quo or "my turn" democrat wives as making anything better for them. They think Trump is going to do some really radical shit to change their fortunes. It's easy for some of us who have seen steady to good increases in our retirement accounts, our home values, and incomes over the past 20 years to think we just need some minor adjustments, to worry about climate change, to have universal healthcare, etc... but when you're working your ass off and have nothing to show for it while the grocery stores are full of people with 4 shopping carts of groceries and a food stamp card, driving a new car, living in subsidized housing and never having to pay a medical bill... that shit weighs on them. Small business owners feel it as well as they see their profits diminish because they have to meet stringent guidelines that keep the big players fat and the mom and pop folks struggling.

Same as always, just different people pocketing the cash.
I'm talking about his base that 20-30% that won't leave him. There is a lot of those fucking people in this country like the ones in that video. Way more than anyone thought. The last two years have proved that if anything.

If you read the college section here it talks about both issues in terms of the successful and not successful you're talking about https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

Like 80% of the manufacturing jobs lost the past 50 years have been lost to due to automation in a study I read. Among the Trump base they don't want to hear that they want to hear that globalization took their jobs away, that it was the Mexicans, and the foreigners etc which is stupid and should be called out as such. I mean you can raise tariffs to a trillion percent those 1950s manufacturing jobs are not coming back. So they vote for a guy who was going to reopen the coal plants and bring back manufacturing. The fuck else can you call it but stupid.

[Spurtacular]

You're right; but muh daddy issues :cry

[DMC]

I'm talking about his base that 20-30% that won't leave him. There is a lot of those fucking people in this country like the ones in that video. Way more than anyone thought. The last two years have proved that if anything.

If you read the college section here it talks about both issues in terms of the successful and not successful you're talking about https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

Like 80% of the manufacturing jobs lost the past 50 years have been lost to due to automation in a study I read. Among the Trump base they don't want to hear that they want to hear that globalization took their jobs away, that it was the Mexicans, and the foreigners etc which is stupid and should be called out as such. I mean you can raise tariffs to a trillion percent those 1950s manufacturing jobs are not coming back. So they vote for a guy who was going to reopen the coal plants and bring back manufacturing. The fuck else can you call it but stupid.
Same on both sides. Your take on it is superficially pragmatic but short sighted. There's no quick fix, but there's more than just "change" that Obama talked about that ended up being not really change. I see all these comments about wanting change, but most of us won't like it when it happens. Who says change will benefit us personally? It might not. I'm not ok with that. At the end of the day, I need to have my haul. I hope you get yours, but I'm not a martyr.

[AaronY]

Like one thing we need to make absolutely clear here. In the GOP primaries he got dominated among intelligent people fucking dominated like wrecked beyond Oblivion. I mean this is just a fact.



The single best predictor of Trump support in the GOP primary is the absence of a college degree. In an analysis of Trump's blowout win in New Hampshire, Evan Soltas determined (http://esoltas.blogspot.com/2016/02/who-is-voting-for-trump.html) that the factor explaining most of the variance in Trump's support in New Hampshire was education.

“For every 1 percentage point more college graduates over the age of 25, Donald Trump's share of votes falls by 0.65 percentage points,” he said."

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2016/03/Screen_Shot_2016_03_01_at_12.42.52_PM/0d11fd238.png
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

Anyone would just like a single brain cell was like "fuck this shit. Fuck it to hell"

And these aren't libtards who were brainwashed by the college these are Republicans. When the general election rolled around they hated Hillary so much and the Supreme Court seat was open so they got out and voted for him. Plus Hillary was awful so some left-wing traditional democratic voters stayed home. But his base is the Derptacular/Chris Benghazi was an inside job crowd and if they want to end political correctness they can expect to be called fucking retarded

[Spurtacular]

Like one thing we need to make absolutely clear here. In the GOP primaries he got dominated among intelligent people fucking dominated like wrecked beyond Oblivion. I mean this is just a fact.




https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2016/03/Screen_Shot_2016_03_01_at_12.42.52_PM/0d11fd238.png
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

Anyone would just like a single brain cell was like "fuck this shit. Fuck it to hell"

And these aren't libtards who were brainwashed by the college these are Republicans. When the general election rolled around they hated Hillary so much and the Supreme Court seat was open so they got out and voted for him. Plus Hillary was awful so some left-wing traditional democratic voters stayed home. But his base is the Derptacular/Chris Benghazi was an inside job crowd and if they want to end political correctness they can expect to be called fucking retarded

How many people with degrees / advanced degrees wanted Hitlery? Your point is shit.

[AaronY]

LIke Romney had the opposite problem he did well among the college educated but poor among the white trash.


Diplomas are what Ron Brownstein calls (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/the-new-republican-fault-line/436671/) the “new Republican fault line.” In 2012, Mitt Romney struggled for months to consolidate support because, even as he had clear support among college-educated Republicans, he fared worse among non-college voters

You could argue about why that is but I'll say it's because he didn't want to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out. People he said weren't sending good hard working people over here just the criminals and rapist rapists, nor ban the evil Muslims, promise to bring back coal jobs, and say tons of offensive ridiculous bullshit just to get a reaction. Plus a whole lot of low grade anti-intellectual nonsense about sticking it to the elites about and taking on all the more successful people in the country who look down on "Middle America" to appeal to the crude bigoted white trash in the GOP base.

[AaronY]

How many people with degrees / advanced degrees wanted Hitlery? Your point is shit.
Uh Hillary dominated the college educated vote lol. And if she had run against like Romney or someone like Ben Sasse or Rubio or something for instance she would not have done nearly as well

[Spurtacular]

Uh Hillary dominated the college educated vote lol. And if she had run against like Romney or someone like Ben Sasse or Rubio or something for instance she would not have done nearly as well

Hillary is corruption personified. If people with degrees are going to go for that, then I'd say a degree is pretty fucking pointless in the equation.

[AaronY]

Anyone would just like a single brain cell was like "fuck this shit. Fuck it to hell"


Just want to clarify I got a little carried away with hyperbole. Thing we forget even in these red or blue states where a lot of times it's like 60/40 and a big win for one side that still means like 40% of the people voted for the other side do it's still a lot of people. I mean if he lost 62-38 among smart/college educated people that's still a lot of smart people who voted for him but trendwise not good

[DMC]

Like one thing we need to make absolutely clear here. In the GOP primaries he got dominated among intelligent people fucking dominated like wrecked beyond Oblivion. I mean this is just a fact.




https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2016/03/Screen_Shot_2016_03_01_at_12.42.52_PM/0d11fd238.png
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

Anyone would just like a single brain cell was like "fuck this shit. Fuck it to hell"

And these aren't libtards who were brainwashed by the college these are Republicans. When the general election rolled around they hated Hillary so much and the Supreme Court seat was open so they got out and voted for him. Plus Hillary was awful so some left-wing traditional democratic voters stayed home. But his base is the Derptacular/Chris Benghazi was an inside job crowd and if they want to end political correctness they can expect to be called fucking retarded

So now you equate having a brain to having a degree? Do you even work with any degreed people? If you did you'd probably rethink that.

[AaronY]

So now you equate having a brain to having a degree? Do you even work with any degreed people? If you did you'd probably rethink that.
I would generally say a person with an advanced degree (-13 among men for Trump and -21 among women) is smarter than a high school dropout (+20 among men for Trump and +12 among women), yes.

I mean do we want to end political correctness here or not man? Or do we only wanna end it when it says things that are comforting to our own particular group?

[DMC]

I would generally say a person with an advanced degree (-13 among men for Trump and -21 among women) is smarter than a high school dropout (+20 among men for Trump and +12 among women), yes.

I mean do we want to end political correctness here or not man? Or do we only wanna end it when it says things that are comforting to our own particular group?

You're bifurcating. While having an advanced degree makes you more educated, it doesn't mean not having one makes you brainless. If you want to continue that line of reasoning you'll need to explain how the smarter people lost.

You are saying things that are comforting to your group. You're saying "yeah we lost but look at how stupid they are and how smart we are". You fucking lost. How much does it matter that you have a degree if it doesn't help you win?

The American people are what they are, you can divide them into degreed/non-degreed and call one of them intelligent and the other stupid, but when the dust settles you're still on the losing side. Consider why.

[Spurtacular]

I would generally say a person with an advanced degree (-13 among men for Trump and -21 among women) is smarter than a high school dropout (+20 among men for Trump and +12 among women), yes.

I mean do we want to end political correctness here or not man? Or do we only wanna end it when it says things that are comforting to our own particular group?

"Smarter" people are often voting for their own interests, not what's best for the country. It's no secret that Wall Street owned Hillary.

[Spurminator]

You're bifurcating. While having an advanced degree makes you more educated, it doesn't mean not having one makes you brainless. If you want to continue that line of reasoning you'll need to explain how the smarter people lost.

You are saying things that are comforting to your group. You're saying "yeah we lost but look at how stupid they are and how smart we are". You fucking lost. How much does it matter that you have a degree if it doesn't help you win?

The American people are what they are, you can divide them into degreed/non-degreed and call one of them intelligent and the other stupid, but when the dust settles you're still on the losing side. Consider why.

:wtf :lol Getting a degree is not about being on the winning political side. Are you saying if people with degrees were really smart they would have voted for the winning Presidential candidate? Those two things aren't remotely related. Voting isn't about predicting the winner.

Maybe you should take some advanced Logic courses.

[AaronY]

"Smarter" people are often voting for their own interests, not what's best for the country. It's no secret that Wall Street owned Hillary.
You keep mentioning Hillary. Hillary wasn't in the Republican primaries. Why did college educated REPUBLICANS vote against trump overwhelmingly? ie why did people who are way smarter than you make better decisions than you?

inb4 some totally self-flattering explanation about how people way smarter than Derptacular with advanced degrees didn't understand something that was so simple to him. Wall needed to keep the Mexicans from ruining his life etc

[Spurtacular]

:wtf :lol Getting a degree is not about being on the winning political side.

SMH

He didn't say that.

#Dumbfuck

:lmao Today's chumpette.

[Spurtacular]

You keep mentioning Hillary. Hillary wasn't in the Republican primaries. Why did college educated REPUBLICANS vote against trump overwhelmingly? ie why did people who are way smarter than you make better decisions than you?

inb4 some totally self-flattering explanation about how people way smarter than Derptacular with advanced degrees didn't understand something that was so simple to him. Wall needed to keep the Mexicans from ruining his life etc

I have a college degree, dumbfuck. And having known stupid people who graduated as well, I find your premise overstated in the first place. Also, your premise that college educated people are somehow altruistic and serve as an oracle of sorts is pretty fucking retarded too.

[Spurminator]

SMH

He didn't say that.

#Dumbfuck

:lmao Today's chumpette.

"You fucking lost. How much does it matter that you have a degree if it doesn't help you win?"

Perhaps some advanced reading courses would help you. I suggest starting at about a 6th grade level.

[AaronY]

You're bifurcating. While having an advanced degree makes you more educated, it doesn't mean not having one makes you brainless. If you want to continue that line of reasoning you'll need to explain how the smarter people lost.

You are saying things that are comforting to your group. You're saying "yeah we lost but look at how stupid they are and how smart we are". You fucking lost. How much does it matter that you have a degree if it doesn't help you win?

The American people are what they are, you can divide them into degreed/non-degreed and call one of them intelligent and the other stupid, but when the dust settles you're still on the losing side. Consider why.
You can call it excuses but it's non-politically correct analysis of Trump voters which is 100% accurate imo. Saying they are generally much less intelligent than other people I mean maybe it's mean, maybe it sounds like I'm a liberal and I'm trying to console myself yada yada but whatever else it's 100% true regardless of who's saying it and what their motivation is tbh

[AaronY]

I have a college degree, dumbfuck. And having known stupid people who graduated as well, I find your premise overstated in the first place. Also, your premise that college educated people are somehow altruistic and serve as an oracle of sorts is pretty fucking retarded too.

No one saying this just that they generally make more intelligent, reasoned decisions. Also someone with an advanced degree is way fucking smarter than a fucking high school dropout. Jesus. Imagine trying to contort yourself to deny that like an M.D. is just as smart as a guy who didn't make it past the 10th grade because it makes your voting base look cooler.

[AaronY]

This whole thing is ridiculous. If the info showed that Trump voters had more advanced degrees and higher IQs Trumptards would 100% use it to mock other people. No one in the world doubts that If they're being honest.

[Blake]

I have a college degree, dumbfuck. And having known stupid people who graduated as well...

That's pretty funny right there

[AaronY]

Wow, Holy Shit! Just saw something!

Anyone wanna guess how bad the young college educated vote was for Trump in the Republican primaries? Like it's ridiculous. I'm talking 18-34 college educated Republicans in the bachelor's and the advanced degree categories

[Blake]

So then "The Onion" is a sarcasm website.

Abstract concept is not your cup of tea.

Gotta win the Internet over trivial semantics.

[Spurtacular]

Also someone with an advanced degree is way fucking smarter than a fucking high school dropout.

Almost always. Though, I wouldn't say this election was about high school dropouts.

[DMC]

:wtf :lol Getting a degree is not about being on the winning political side. Are you saying if people with degrees were really smart they would have voted for the winning Presidential candidate? Those two things aren't remotely related. Voting isn't about predicting the winner.

Maybe you should take some advanced Logic courses.

Really poor reading comprehension skills. Why didn't the smart people realize that running Hillary Clinton was fucking stupid?

You run a crippled horse, you're not that smart.

[DMC]

Gotta win the Internet over trivial semantics.

You're the one who challenged it, dipshit.

[DMC]

Wow, Holy Shit! Just saw something!

Anyone wanna guess how bad the young college educated vote was for Trump in the Republican primaries? Like it's ridiculous. I'm talking 18-34 college educated Republicans in the bachelor's and the advanced degree categories

Millennials remain the most Democratic age cohort: 51% of Millennials (ages 18-34) identify as Democrats or lean Democratic, compared with 35% who identify as Republican or lean Republican. This is little changed in recent years; in 2008, Millennials leaned Democratic by a wider margin (55% to 30%). (For more on Millennials’ political attitudes, see “Millennials in Adulthood,” March 7, 2014.)

Education level aside, young people tend to vote democratic, if they vote. They are more for "anything goes" aka "liberal" than "rules" aka "conservative".

All this aside, you're still talking about the candidate who won. You should be trying to figure out why you lost instead of berating the voter base for the winner.

[DMC]

This whole thing is ridiculous. If the info showed that Trump voters had more advanced degrees and higher IQs Trumptards would 100% use it to mock other people. No one in the world doubts that If they're being honest.

Proof from a hypothetical isn't proof of anything.

Aaron, do you have an advanced degree? You seem to deify the degree as if it's some mark of genius. It's not.

[Spurminator]

Really poor reading comprehension skills. Why didn't the smart people realize that running Hillary Clinton was fucking stupid?

You run a crippled horse, you're not that smart.

This is dumb on a number of levels. For one thing, Hillary Clinton was not nominated by a consortium of college graduates, she was nominated by delegates representing registered Democrats participating in the primary. Hillary Clinton's nomination has nothing to do with the value of a college degree.

Secondly, Hillary Clinton was most successful in the Democratic Primary with voters who had "High School or Less" education. Bernie Sanders did considerably better with voters who had some College education or more than he did with people who didn't have any college education.

Third, you don't know that Bernie Sanders would have won if he had been the nominee. You don't know that any Democratic nominee would have won. Democratic voters, degreed and otherwise, were given the choices they were given just like Republicans were.

Nothing you're saying makes sense. All you've done is display a strange resentment against college education.

[Spurtacular]

Proof from a hypothetical isn't proof of anything.

Aaron, do you have an advanced degree? You seem to deify the degree as if it's some mark of genius. It's not.

It's really not. I know a lot of people with Master's degrees and higher who are not that smart. Nonetheless, many of the most intelligent people do hold high degrees and do good work. But many times for all of their intelligence, they often have glaring blind spots as well.

However, people who have to experience a grind are the ones often "more in touch." Frankly, this was the narrative that Dems used against Romney just one cycle ago. Suddenly that's not a thing now that Trump is en vogue.

[DMC]

This is dumb on a number of levels. For one thing, Hillary Clinton was not nominated by a consortium of college graduates, she was nominated by delegates representing registered Democrats participating in the primary. Hillary Clinton's nomination has nothing to do with the value of a college degree.

So those who fucked Bernie over and pushed Hillary to the forefront didn't have degrees? So those who voted for Hillary didn't have degrees? Shit or go blind, faggot.


Secondly, Hillary Clinton was most successful in the Democratic Primary with voters who had "High School or Less" education. Bernie Sanders did considerably better with voters who had some College education or more than he did with people who didn't have any college education.

So the educated folks allowed themselves to be silenced by a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle draggers... twice.


Third, you don't know that Bernie Sanders would have won if he had been the nominee. You don't know that any Democratic nominee would have won. Democratic voters, degreed and otherwise, were given the choices they were given just like Republicans were.

Nothing you're saying makes sense.
Either the college degree means something in the election or it doesn't. Whichever you decide, tell that to Aaron.

[Spurminator]

So those who fucked Bernie over and pushed Hillary to the forefront didn't have degrees? So those who voted for Hillary didn't have degrees? Shit or go blind, faggot.

So the educated folks allowed themselves to be silenced by a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle draggers... twice.

Either the college degree means something in the election or it doesn't. Whichever you decide, tell that to Aaron.

:lmao Aaron's doing just fine on his own. It's a pretty simple data point. People with higher education tended not to vote for Donald Trump. Period.

For some reason the implication that college-educated people are generally more intelligent has you incensed to a degree that you're making nonsensical counter-arguments about the political strategies (or votes lol) of specific college graduates. It's like saying a Medical Degree doesn't necessarily make you a better doctor because you found an article about a surgeon who was unsuccessful in a heart transplant.

It's okay if you didn't get a degree, no one here is judging you. Maybe you need to make peace with it yourself?

[Blake]

You're the one who challenged it, dipshit.

You're the one that thinks he won the Internet.

[DMC]

:lmao Aaron's doing just fine on his own. It's a pretty simple data point. People with higher education tended not to vote for Donald Trump. Period.

Or Hillary, according to you.


For some reason the implication that college-educated people are generally more intelligent has you incensed to a degree that you're making nonsensical counter-arguments about the political strategies (or votes lol) of specific college graduates. It's like saying a Medical Degree doesn't necessarily make you a better doctor because you found an article about a surgeon who was unsuccessful in a heart transplant.

Why do you capitalize "medical degree" as it's a proper noun?

You don't even understand the argument.

It's a sour grapes argument. Sure you lost, but you feel better knowing that people with degrees voted for someone who was a poor choice.


It's okay if you didn't get a degree, no one here is judging you. Maybe you need to make peace with it yourself?
I see you totally ignored my response because you're lost, as usual.

When you want to compare W2s and degrees, let me know.

[DMC]

You're the one that thinks he won the Internet.

That's your brain dead retort any time someone shoves their cock in your eye socket around here.

[Blake]

That's your brain dead retort any time someone shoves their cock in your eye socket around here.

It's funny how your retorts go gay when you get angry

[DMC]

It's funny how your retorts go gay when you get angry

You think gays fuck each other in the eye sockets?

[Blake]

You think gays fuck each other in the eye sockets?

You visualize it

[Spurminator]

Or Hillary, according to you.

By comparison to college-educated people in the Democratic primary, right.



You don't even understand the argument.

It's a sour grapes argument. Sure you lost, but you feel better knowing that people with degrees voted for someone who was a poor choice.

No, it's a statement of fact that you have spent hours whining about because of its implications. You see "college educated = more intelligent" and you go on the same old "Then why did Hillary lose?" tangent as you've done countless other times.


I see you totally ignored my response because you're lost, as usual.

Your response was a non sequitur and did not merit further attention. The education level of the people in power at the DNC is not a necessary indictment of college education, and it's irrelevant to a discussion on voter behavior results and trends.


When you want to compare W2s and degrees, let me know.

:lol Share personal information with you? Not a chance.

Make no mistake, I don't care if you have a degree or not, or what your job/pay is, I'm simply observing that you seem resentful towards college education. Your tough guy posturing is unnecessary.

[DMC]

By comparison to college-educated people in the Democratic primary, right.

Don't act like you were a Bernie supporter. You're Hillary through and through.


No, it's a statement of fact that you have spent hours whining about because of its implications. You see "college educated = more intelligent" and you go on the same old "Then why did Hillary lose?" tangent as you've done countless other times.

No, I see someone overlooking just why they lost as they continue to draw the same faulty conclusions as before. Again, you're not up to speed on the argument, like always.

If the winning side is dumb, what does that say about the losing side?


Your response was a non sequitur and did not merit further attention. The education level of the people in power at the DNC is not a necessary indictment of college education, and it's irrelevant to a discussion on voter behavior results and trends.

However the lack of education on the other side somehow underscores just how important college degrees are in the voting process.


:lol Share personal information with you? Not a chance.

Make no mistake, I don't care if you have a degree or not, or what your job/pay is, I'm simply observing that you seem resentful towards college education. Your tough guy posturing is unnecessary.
"It's ok if you didn't get a degree" - You


You try to play the "hurr durr yur dumb" angle then when called out you pretend you weren't.

The offer stands. Of course you'll run away from it.

[AaronY]

Millennials remain the most Democratic age cohort: 51% of Millennials (ages 18-34) identify as Democrats or lean Democratic, compared with 35% who identify as Republican or lean Republican. This is little changed in recent years; in 2008, Millennials leaned Democratic by a wider margin (55% to 30%). (For more on Millennials’ political attitudes, see “Millennials in Adulthood,” March 7, 2014.)

Education level aside, young people tend to vote democratic, if they vote. They are more for "anything goes" aka "liberal" than "rules" aka "conservative".

All this aside, you're still talking about the candidate who won. You should be trying to figure out why you lost instead of berating the voter base for the winner.

Who the hells doing this?!?!? I been in a great mood lately. The Moore victory and some of the other elections got me feeling really good about 2018. I just stated a throwaway fact that his base is largely dumb white trash. Which is true I dunno maybe it's like highly offensive but it's true

[AaronY]

Truthfully what got me feeling extra good partially is that really dumb white trash base of his. This republican never Trump conservative I follow on Twitter was pointing out all the stupid fucking people they and other far right nut groups nominated who lost. Like by his logic they would have 55 to 57 Senate seats if the more sane Republicans had won the primaries.

Like this Christen O'Donnell she's up in one of the northeast states there was a republican who was going to take over for someone who retiring and he was like way ahead in the polls. Then the tea party was upset with the establishment Republicans so they nominated this O'Donnell and she won the primaries but lost by like 20 points in the election because she was such a far right crazy retard. Then there was this guy Todd Akin who was leading in red state Missouri and said if your raped your body will reject the baby so you don't need an abortion. Plus several other goobers he mentioned because in the primaries you get these really right wing nutjobs like Chris who push forward these guys who are unelectable in general elections.

It's already shaping up pretty good they got this chemtrail Kelli in Arizona this Tarkenian guy in Nevada and Bannon promising he gonna primary a lot more of these people with unelectable Roy Moore type losers who can't win general elections. All we got to do is nominate boring people like Doug Jones and we should be fine

[AaronY]

Fucking phenomenal :lol


As Mother Jones reported last year (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/kelli-ward-john-mccain-agenda-21/), Ward has “has flirted with the conspiracy-theory fringe by making appearances on 9/11 truther radio programs, advising citizens to stay vigilant against UN helicopters, warning against government ‘indoctrination,’ and proposing an unusual theory that the Affordable Care Act was part of a plot to force rural residents to move to cities.”
More of that please. Me gusta

[pgardn]

Whoa...

This brought out some real feelings of inferiority.

W-2s and Degrees... Choose your weapons Gentlemen, we have a duel royale.

Conservatives think liberals are stupid and liberals think conservatives are stupid.
Go figure. Those polls splitting up voters by college education or lack thereof have been fine tinder.

The video showing Roy Moore's campaign manager totally mystified by swearing in on the Bible; the Judicial nominee totally unable to answer questions concerning law, do show a penchant the current administration has for backing unqualified citizens for positions that require some knowledge. Is this what has DMC bugged? these ordinary citizens thinking they can just step in and run the FBI? Government for and by the people dammit. "Listen to me, I'm not stupid, I just wallow in ignorance." And.... Donald Trump is president. Bang. Ya see there, this is what you get smart people. Bannon told me so.

There was a video showing a group of younger black people ecstatic over Obama's election victory. I believe they thought they would get free cell phones. I guess Obama needed to nominate a few of them for Secretary of State. Maybe the DNC could round em up and select them for "minor" State Supreme Court positions, anyone can do it.( With the exception of Bible thumping pedophiles.)

[AaronY]

Whoa...

This brought out some real feelings of inferiority.

W-2s and Degrees... Choose your weapons Gentlemen, we have a duel royale.

Conservatives think liberals are stupid and liberals think conservatives are stupid.
Go figure. Those polls splitting up voters by college education or lack thereof have been fine tinder.

The video showing Roy Moore's campaign manager totally mystified by swearing in on the Bible; the Judicial nominee totally unable to answer questions concerning law, do show a penchant the current administration has for backing unqualified citizens for positions that require some knowledge. Is this what has DMC bugged? these ordinary citizens thinking they can just step in and run the FBI? Government for and by the people dammit. "Listen to me, I'm not stupid, I just wallow in ignorance." And.... Donald Trump is president. Bang. Ya see there, this is what you get smart people. Bannon told me so.

There was a video showing a group of younger black people ecstatic over Obama's election victory. I believe they thought they would get free cell phones. I guess Obama needed to nominate a few of them for Secretary of State. Maybe the DNC could round em up and select them for "minor" State Supreme Court positions, anyone can do it.( With the exception of Bible thumping pedophiles.)
I don't think conservatives are stupid i think Trump conservatives are really stupid. The Romney ones like I showed earlier are not at all. Like if Romney primaried Trump in 2020 the education divide would would be insanely stark :lol

[AaronY]

Besides I like literally showed reams of facts backing up what I was saying to show it wasn't a matter of opinion.

[AaronY]

I don't get why that quote keeps getting cut into two on my tablet lol dunno what I did wrong. Tried to fix it and it's still broken. Maybe I am a dummy lol

[pgardn]

I don't think conservatives are stupid i think Trump conservatives are really stupid. The Romney ones like I showed earlier are not at all. Like if Romney primaried Trump in 2020 the education would insanely stark :lol

Well whatever.

You got DMC to pull the semiautomatic W2, AND draw the razor sharp Degree List from the scabbard.
He then wielded the ChrisSpurt Beta grenade and F'N pulled the pin.
If he were a domestic cat he would be puffed up bigger than Trump hair-head.

Piloerection to the extreme. ffffftttttt...

[Chucho]

Someone busted out their W2s and it wasn't Splits??

ROFL.:lmao

The Left lost for 2 reasons:

1. Obama
2. Hillary and her side alienated and insulted and villanized the majority of the voting block.

[Pavlov]

Someone busted out their W2s and it wasn't Splits??

ROFL.:lmao

The Left lost for 2 reasons:

1. Obama
2. Hillary and her side alienated and insulted and villanized the majority of the voting block.Nah, it's 2. Almost any other Democrat would've beat Trump.

[AaronY]

Lol didn't even see the W-2. Why was DMC so offended I thought he didn't even vote for Trump. Honestly he's said way worse stuff about blacks and Muslims than anything I said in here about Trumpers. Maybe he kids when he says that stuff but whatever

[DMC]

Who the hells doing this?!?!? I been in a great mood lately. The Moore victory and some of the other elections got me feeling really good about 2018. I just stated a throwaway fact that his base is largely dumb white trash. Which is true I dunno maybe it's like highly offensive but it's true

You're doing it.

Pretty sure those who voted for Doug Jones are, by and large, poor white people as well.

[DMC]

Whoa...

This brought out some real feelings of inferiority.

W-2s and Degrees... Choose your weapons Gentlemen, we have a duel royale.

Conservatives think liberals are stupid and liberals think conservatives are stupid.
Go figure. Those polls splitting up voters by college education or lack thereof have been fine tinder.

The video showing Roy Moore's campaign manager totally mystified by swearing in on the Bible; the Judicial nominee totally unable to answer questions concerning law, do show a penchant the current administration has for backing unqualified citizens for positions that require some knowledge. Is this what has DMC bugged? these ordinary citizens thinking they can just step in and run the FBI? Government for and by the people dammit. "Listen to me, I'm not stupid, I just wallow in ignorance." And.... Donald Trump is president. Bang. Ya see there, this is what you get smart people. Bannon told me so.

There was a video showing a group of younger black people ecstatic over Obama's election victory. I believe they thought they would get free cell phones. I guess Obama needed to nominate a few of them for Secretary of State. Maybe the DNC could round em up and select them for "minor" State Supreme Court positions, anyone can do it.( With the exception of Bible thumping pedophiles.)

I couldn't care less about the nominee, haven't even read about any of it. What Aaron is doing is akin to saying "fucking refs" when you lose a series, instead of looking at your own flaws.

Hey, but it gets some +1s here in the echo chamber. Everybody needs those sometimes.

[DMC]

Lol didn't even see the W-2. Why was DMC so offended I thought he didn't even vote for Trump. Honestly he's said way worse stuff about blacks and Muslims than anything I said in here about Trumpers. Maybe he kids when he says that stuff but whatever

Aaron not knowing context again, just shooting from the hip. There used to be people here who could argue based on facts. Now it's just people like you who alt and troll your way through the discussions.

[Th'Pusher]

You're doing it.

Pretty sure those who voted for Doug Jones are, by and large, poor white people as well.

Doug Jones won the college educated too.

It's amusing that you're annoyed with the fact that the educated lean democrat.

[DMC]

Doug Jones won the college educated too.

It's amusing that you're annoyed with the fact that the educated lean democrat.

Alabama isn't by and large college educated.

It's amusing you don't get that fact.

[Th'Pusher]

Alabama isn't by and large college educated.

It's amusing you don't get that fact.

I do get that fact. But Jones won the Alabamians that are college educated and that fact angers you.

[DMC]

I do get that fact. But Jones won the Alabamians that are college educated and that fact angers you.

The elitism some of you try to front here is hilarious. Jones won because of the black vote. He did not win because of college educated Alabamians. You don't feel as special it you admit that though.

[Spurminator]

"It's ok if you didn't get a degree" - You

You try to play the "hurr durr yur dumb" angle then when called out you pretend you weren't.

The offer stands. Of course you'll run away from it.

I have never equated not having a degree with being dumb. I have worked with smart people and dumb people who have degrees and who don't have degrees. But I'm not the one in this thread desperate to throw out all of the examples he can of people who have degrees and were unsuccessful at something like a Presidential election for the sake of devaluing higher education.

There is absolutely no reason for me to compare dicks with you, but keep asking because it's really making you look like a stable person.

[Spurminator]

The elitism some of you try to front here is hilarious. Jones won because of the black vote. He did not win because of college educated Alabamians. You don't feel as special it you admit that though.

The statements "college educated Alabamans preferred Jones" and "Jones won because he dominated the black vote" are both true.

[Th'Pusher]

The elitism some of you try to front here is hilarious. Jones won because of the black vote. He did not win because of college educated Alabamians. You don't feel as special it you admit that though.

It's not elitism. It's simply a fact. I have no problem acknowlging that the black vote won Jones the election. That fact actually makes me happy. Just like the fact that college educated people lean democrat makes me happy.

[Spurminator]

"Instead of talking about this thing, you should be talking about this other thing."

[Pavlov]

Ask him if he wanted Moore or Jones in that seat and he'll blow a gasket.

[DMC]

I have never equated not having a degree with being dumb. I have worked with smart people and dumb people who have degrees and who don't have degrees. But I'm not the one in this thread desperate to throw out all of the examples he can of people who have degrees and were unsuccessful at something like a Presidential election for the sake of devaluing higher education.

There is absolutely no reason for me to compare dicks with you, but keep asking because it's really making you look like a stable person.
Typical liberal. Talk shit then back pedal when challenged. :lol

[DMC]

It's not elitism. It's simply a fact. I have no problem acknowlging that the black vote won Jones the election. That fact actually makes me happy. Just like the fact that college educated people lean democrat makes me happy.

You have no problem acknowledging something I had to bring up, but the comments are about being college educated "we're better people". We aren't better than anyone else just because we have a college degree, and the notion that you are is part of why your bitch lost the states she should have won. You're just disconnected from the reality of life outside of your bubble.

[Spurminator]

Typical liberal. Talk shit then back pedal when challenged. :lol

This is textbook insecurity. All you do here is talk shit, but when it gets personal towards you, you want to take it outside and fight about it.

[DMC]

This is textbook insecurity. All you do here is talk shit, but when it gets personal towards you, you want to take it outside and fight about it.

You bluffed, I called, you folded.

That's all that happened.

[Th'Pusher]

You have no problem acknowledging something I had to bring up,

:lol like the fact that the black vote propelled Jones to victory isn't common knowledge to anybody who pays the slightest attention to politics. You know what isn't common knowledge? The fact that jones won the college educated :lol


but the comments are about being college educated "we're better people". We aren't better than anyone else just because we have a college degree, and the notion that you are is part of why your bitch lost the states she should have won. You're just disconnected from the reality of life outside of your bubble.

I didn't say college educated are better than the uneducated. Nice strawman.

And ding. Your hatred for Hillary is also amusing. You consistently go back to the Hillary well. Bill too. Get over them. I have.

[DMC]

:lol like the fact that the black vote propelled Jones to victory isn't common knowledge to anybody who pays the slightest attention to politics. You know what isn't common knowledge? The fact that jones won the college educated :lol


Common knowledge yet ignored here in favor of a higher class of white voter.


I didn't say college educated are better than the uneducated. Nice strawman.

It's inferred here plenty.


And ding. Your hatred for Hillary is also amusing. You consistently go back to the Hillary well. Bill too. Get over them. I have.
They were selling your shit, JP.

[Spurminator]

You bluffed, I called, you folded.

That's all that happened.

That's not bluffing, princess.

Bluffing would be if I offered to show you my W2 and then backed away when you agreed to it.

[Spurminator]

Common knowledge yet ignored here in favor of a higher class of white voter.


"Instead of talking about this thing, you should be talking about this other thing."

[Th'Pusher]

They were selling your shit, JP.
I know you’re spent when you start using the initials you plucked off that email address you looked up :lol

[DMC]

That's not bluffing, princess.

Bluffing would be if I offered to show you my W2 and then backed away when you agreed to it.

:lol "princess"
:lol uses Adam Lambert as an alt
:lol whitest person on the forum not named Fuzzy

[Adam Lambert]

Adam Lambert

*ding*

[DMC]

*ding*

I neutered you in front of the entire forum.

[Adam Lambert]

I neutered you in front of the entire forum.

you sure did, with your pants down and everything. we were all very impressed!

[DMC]

you sure did, with your pants down and everything. we were all very impressed!

"we"

:lol hoping to share the shame
:lol creating an alt to troll your own threads
:lol pretending to be serious about political discussion while your alt was shitting in your threads
:lol trying to protect your main account's moral high ground

:lol neutered

[spurraider21]

Like one thing we need to make absolutely clear here. In the GOP primaries he got dominated among intelligent people fucking dominated like wrecked beyond Oblivion. I mean this is just a fact.




https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2016/03/Screen_Shot_2016_03_01_at_12.42.52_PM/0d11fd238.png
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/who-are-donald-trumps-supporters-really/471714/

Anyone would just like a single brain cell was like "fuck this shit. Fuck it to hell"

And these aren't libtards who were brainwashed by the college these are Republicans. When the general election rolled around they hated Hillary so much and the Supreme Court seat was open so they got out and voted for him. Plus Hillary was awful so some left-wing traditional democratic voters stayed home. But his base is the Derptacular/Chris Benghazi was an inside job crowd and if they want to end political correctness they can expect to be called fucking retarded
That graph doesn’t represent voting trends tbh

[DisAsTerBot]

I neutered you in front of the entire forum.

Holy shit this is pathetic

[DMC]

Holy shit this is pathetic

None of you (including you) can debate worth a shit, so the mosh pit it is.

[spurraider21]

:lol let’s compare w2’s!
:lol your dog died recently, loser!

such a tough guy

[DisAsTerBot]

None of you (including you) can debate worth a shit, so the mosh pit it is.

I don’t give a shit about your opinion. So pathetic I will call you. You’ll continue to demonstrate it

[DMC]

I don’t give a shit about your opinion. So pathetic I will call you. You’ll continue to demonstrate it

Obviously you don't care, as shown by how you follow me around.

[DMC]

:lol let’s compare w2’s!
:lol your dog died recently, loser!

such a tough guy

You said your dog was eaten by coyotes. You share information here then get all swollen like a possum when someone mentions it as if you were violated.

Does your wife know you're using the internet?

[spurraider21]

You said your dog was eaten by coyotes. You share information here then get all swollen like a possum when someone mentions it as if you were violated.

Does your wife know you're using the internet?
I don’t feel violated. It’s public knowledge. Your need to swing your dick around and try to act badass is amusing is all

[DMC]

I don’t feel violated. It’s public knowledge. Your need to swing your dick around and try to act badass is amusing is all

You're portraying yourself as a victim here. Drop some balls already.

[Blake]

None of you (including you) can debate worth a shit, so the mosh pit it is.

:lol that's rich

[Blake]

You're portraying yourself as a victim here. Drop some balls already.

Lol this tough guy

[DMC]

:lol that's rich


Lol this tough guy

Look, another "me too" faggot.

[Spurtacular]

Look, another "me too" faggot.

:lmao The chumpette theme song.

[pgardn]

None of you (including you) can debate worth a shit, so the mosh pit it is.

Let us all get our Lincoln-Douglas HS debate rubric.
Scanning, scanning...

[DMC]

:lmao The chumpette theme song.

You get a conversation going with someone who's more moderate and the faggots just start piling in with the one liners. You get cucky, then philo pops in with a roll eyes type post and "you're so mean" (though Philo is one of my faves), then you see Th'Pusher show up still fuming mad, looking for his pound of flesh, Spurminator gives his bleeding heart liberal take laced with innuendo, a few stray assholes pile on and eventually CD pops in and starts with the 5 pages of repetitive questioning schtick.

Rinse and repeat ad nauseum

At the end of the day, my tax bill will be lower than it was under the Obama administration.

That's it and that's all.

[DMC]

Let us all get our Lincoln-Douglas HS debate rubric.
Scanning, scanning...

translation: "I cannot have a discussion without preaching or going off the reservation with some kind of made up prose"

[pgardn]

translation: "I cannot have a discussion without preaching or going off the reservation with some kind of made up prose"

Translation.

I enjoy picking at the very edges of paper and pulling out the tiny fibers when I lose an argument because I FCKN KEEP SCORE, see here now.
(You gotta like this reservation for 2.)

Preaching "No one here can debate properly"
" Out of order Mr., this is the Fckn rebuttal sequence, it's not time to pull the W2 analysis and conclusion"

Lighten up, Obsessive Compulsive

And of course I fully realize I am silly and sloppy. But you get my points, you are not stupid, you are not Chris.

[spurraider21]

You get a conversation going with someone who's more moderate and the faggots just start piling in with the one liners. You get cucky, then philo pops in with a roll eyes type post and "you're so mean" (though Philo is one of my faves), then you see Th'Pusher show up still fuming mad, looking for his pound of flesh, Spurminator gives his bleeding heart liberal take laced with innuendo, a few stray assholes pile on and eventually CD pops in and starts with the 5 pages of repetitive questioning schtick.

Rinse and repeat ad nauseum

At the end of the day, my tax bill will be lower than it was under the Obama administration.

That's it and that's all.
Who are these moderates you speak of. Spurtacular?

[DMC]

Who are these moderates you speak of. Spurtacular?

AaronY is a moderate. I think you are rather moderate. I think Baseline Bum is rather moderate, and Benefactor as well. El Nono is moderate, pgardn to a point is moderate.

Need more?

[spurraider21]

AaronY is a moderate. I think you are rather moderate. I think Baseline Bum is rather moderate, and Benefactor as well. El Nono is moderate, pgardn to a point is moderate.

Need more?
Gotcha. Tho an equally accurate representation would be “anytime someone discusses a political topic DMc just comes in and says Hillary lost”

[DMC]

Gotcha. Tho an equally accurate representation would be “anytime someone discusses a political topic DMc just comes in and says Hillary lost”

When the rational discourse turns to intentionally obtuse shit responses, that's what you deserve.

[Blake]

Look, another "me too" faggot.

You saying nobody here can debate and then proceed to shit out fallacies all over the place.

You're a fucking idiot, tbh.

[DMC]

You saying nobody here can debate and then proceed to shit out fallacies all over the place.

You're a fucking idiot, tbh.

What would you like to debate?

[AaronY]

Aaron not knowing context again, just shooting from the hip. There used to be people here who could argue based on facts. Now it's just people like you who alt and troll your way through the discussions.
Lol I presented facts.

You presented zero facts.

[AaronY]

That graph doesn’t represent voting trends tbh
Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times. But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems

[DMC]

Lol I presented facts.

You presented zero facts.

You didn't get the context of why I made the comment.

What facts did you present?

[Spurminator]

Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times. But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems

It's valid. Trump was abandoned by every Republican non-politician that anyone would consider a conservative intellect. His appeal, outside of empty greed, is exclusively tribal, and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence.

[DMC]

Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times. But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems

Education achievement is also based on opportunity, unless you think poor families are just inherently dumb.

[DMC]

It's valid. Trump was abandoned by every Republican non-politician that anyone would consider a conservative intellect. His appeal, outside of empty greed, is exclusively tribal, and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence.

Do you take that same stance with black voters who will vote based on skin color?

[AaronY]

You didn't get the context of why I made the comment.

What facts did you present?
The chart which showed Trumps performance among GOP primary based on education levels.


Education achievement is also based on opportunity, unless you think poor families are just inherently dumb.
I agree with this to an extent. If you watch that season of the Wire with all the black kids like some of the stuff is heartbreaking in how bad they had it. It's supposed to be based on David Simon experience as a reporter in Baltimore. And there are white trash kids growing up in trailer parks with meth head parents who have it just as bad. I think as a trend though smart people do better in school.

[Spurminator]

Do you take that same stance with black voters who will vote based on skin color?

I'm not aware of a mainstream black candidate running on a message of keeping other racial and ethnic groups out of the country, or bemoaning the crime rates of non-black Americans. Blacks generally vote en masse for Democrats, and black political candidates are generally Democrat. But sure, I suppose blacks who vote for someone based on skin color without regard to their political position would probably also be on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum.

[Spurtacular]

...

Did Obama not do great with the high school drop-out class?

[Spurtacular]

I'm not aware of a mainstream black candidate running on a message of keeping other racial and ethnic groups out of the country.

Are Muslims an ethnic group?
Are illegal border crossers an ethnic group?

[spurraider21]

Huh? It represents his voting performance among Republicans in the primaries based on education levels.

Like I stated in I think the next post I made maybe I got a little condescending here itt at times. But I do think without a doubt a lot of education achievement is based on intelligence. Also think Trump's policies in a lot if areas jive well with uneducated bigoted people's simplistic worldviews and solutions to problems
no, it doesnt. the atlantic article you posted links to the source of the graph...

http://www.hamiltonproject.org/assets/legacy/files/downloads_and_links/Employment_Earnings_Occupations_Changes_1990-2013_FINAL_1.pdf

https://i.gyazo.com/e27b37f752a6ee29ca17ccc6c16df1fa.png


and this is the context in which the atlantic article posted it

https://i.gyazo.com/a1001d242d83e7026794f46db18cc558.png

[DMC]

The chart which showed Trumps performance among GOP primary based on education levels.

The same article draws this conclusion:

"But voters who agreed with the statement “people like me don't have any say about what the government does” were 86.5 percent more likely to prefer Trump. This feeling of powerlessness and voicelessness was a much better predictor of Trump support than age, race, college attainment, income, attitudes towards Muslims, illegal immigrants, or Hispanic identity."

People who feel hopeless were susceptible to being coerced into hoping for anything to change in their favor. People without college degrees are more likely to feel disconnected from "hope" than those with degrees, because gainful employment is harder to come by. It's not because they are stupid or white trash.

The concept seems easy to grasp once you change the skin color to black.


I agree with this to an extent. If you watch that season of the Wire with all the black kids like some of the stuff is heartbreaking in how bad they had it. It's supposed to be based on David Simon experience as a reporter in Baltimore. And there are white trash kids growing up in trailer parks with meth head parents who have it just as bad. I think as a trend though smart people do better in school.[/QUOTE]

[AaronY]

Ooof that's embarrassing

Still says this though

“For every 1 percentage point more college graduates over the age of 25, Donald Trump's share of votes falls by 0.65 percentage points,” he said. "

[DMC]

I'm not aware of a mainstream black candidate running on a message of keeping other racial and ethnic groups out of the country, or bemoaning the crime rates of non-black Americans. Blacks generally vote en masse for Democrats, and black political candidates are generally Democrat. But sure, I suppose blacks who vote for someone based on skin color without regard to their political position would probably also be on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum.

Red herring.

Do you consider blacks who only vote for a person because of the color of their skin, who concern themselves with mainly black issues, to be tribal and therefore on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum?

[DMC]

Ooof that's embarrassing

Still says this though

“For every 1 percentage point more college graduates over the age of 25, Donald Trump's share of votes falls by 0.65 percentage points,” he said. "

Because of what I mentioned. Cause vs correlation. The fact they do not have higher education is a large reason why they feel hopeless.

[AaronY]

no, it doesnt. the atlantic article you posted links to the source of the graph...

http://www.hamiltonproject.org/assets/legacy/files/downloads_and_links/Employment_Earnings_Occupations_Changes_1990-2013_FINAL_1.pdf

https://i.gyazo.com/e27b37f752a6ee29ca17ccc6c16df1fa.png


and this is the context in which the atlantic article posted it

https://i.gyazo.com/a1001d242d83e7026794f46db18cc558.png
Yeah, like I said in my last post I misread this completely lol. Curious if I can find the actual numbers in those groups elsewhere. Now that I think about it The GOP field was so fractured with everyone refusing to drop out I don't think the numbers would correlate in a simple yes/no for Trump since guys refuse to drop out and the vote was split like three to four ways most of the time

[spurraider21]

Red herring.

Do you consider blacks who only vote for a person because of the color of their skin, who concern themselves with mainly black issues, to be tribal and therefore on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum?
voting for someone because of the color of their skin is not the same as concerning themselves with mainly black issues

if a black person votes for someone only because the candidate is black, then yeah, probably lower on the intelligence spectrum

if a black person concerns himself with mainly black issues, then that's good sense. i would always concern myself with issues that affect me, directly

[AaronY]

Truthfully I like idea of analyzing this by just limiting it the Republican primary since Republicans have built this delusional world where they lose all the college educated votes because the college voters are brainwashed into liberalism. If you limit it to Republicans then you don't have to worry about that.

[Spurtacular]

voting for someone because of the color of their skin is not the same as concerning themselves with mainly black issues

if a black person votes for someone only because the candidate is black, then yeah, probably lower on the intelligence spectrum

if a black person concerns himself with mainly black issues, then that's good sense. i would always concern myself with issues that affect me, directly

:lmao Love watching you to talk yourself into justifying racist voting.
:lmao Truth is you wouldn't be for this bull shit if you substituted white for black in everything you just said.
:lmao Today's chump lite

[DMC]

voting for someone because of the color of their skin is not the same as concerning themselves with mainly black issues

if a black person votes for someone only because the candidate is black, then yeah, probably lower on the intelligence spectrum

if a black person concerns himself with mainly black issues, then that's good sense. i would always concern myself with issues that affect me, directly

Stick to context.

"Tribalism is the state of being organized in or an advocate for a tribe or tribes. In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group."

Does this describe blacks, BET, NAACP, BLM, etc..?

The question wasn't asked in a vacuum, which is why these tangents appear when someone other than the person asked tries to answer.

[DMC]

Truthfully I like idea of analyzing this by just limiting it the Republican primary since Republicans have built this delusional world where they lose all the college educated votes because the college voters are brainwashed into liberalism. If you limit it to Republicans then you don't have to worry about that.

Limiting it to whatever makes you feel more right is your prerogative, but it doesn't make you right.

[Spurtacular]

Are Muslims an ethnic group?
Are illegal border crossers an ethnic group?
Spurminator

[Quadzilla99]

:lmao Love watching you to talk yourself into justifying racist voting.
:lmao Truth is you wouldn't be for this bull shit if you substituted white for black in everything you just said.
:lmao Today's chump lite

Blacks don't vote for black Republicans so this doesn't make much sense.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article13900028.html

Republicans lose every single minority group like every single one and it's the minority groups fault for not voting for them.

[Spurtacular]

Blacks don't vote for black Republicans so this doesn't make much sense.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article13900028.html

Republicans lose every single minority group like every single one and it's the minority groups fault for not voting for them.

Tribal politics, bruh. Who's handing out the money?

[Quadzilla99]

Like they even lose Asians lol

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/18/524371847/trump-lost-more-of-the-asian-american-vote-than-the-national-exit-polls-showed

I've yet to hear why Asians are stupid and brainwashed and vote for democrats

[Spurtacular]

Like they even lose Asians lol

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/18/524371847/trump-lost-more-of-the-asian-american-vote-than-the-national-exit-polls-showed

I've yet to hear why Asians are stupid and brainwashed and vote for democrats

Go ahead and tell us why Asians are voting Democrat.

[Quadzilla99]

Tribal politics, bruh. Who's handing out the money?

Who's handing out money to the Asians?

The highest earning group in the entire country even more than whites

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/04/16/asian-americans-lead-all-others-in-household-income/

They have the highest levels of Education

https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2016/04/11/why-asian-americans-are-the-most-educated-group-in-america/

And they vote overwhelmingly Democrat

[Pavlov]

Tribal politics, bruh. Who's handing out the money?The Asians!

[Quadzilla99]

I don't think they commit much crime either I don't have stats but I'm pretty sure they don't. So all the complaints you guys have about the other races don't apply there

[Spurtacular]

Who's handing out money to the Asians?

The highest earning group in the entire country even more than whites

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/04/16/asian-americans-lead-all-others-in-household-income/

They have the highest levels of Education

https://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2016/04/11/why-asian-americans-are-the-most-educated-group-in-america/

And they vote overwhelmingly Democrat

So, why are Asians voting Democrat?

[Quadzilla99]

Go ahead and tell us why Asians are voting Democrat.
Instead how about you tell us why Republicans can't win any group but white people. literally no one but white people will vote for republicans. And every single one of the minority groups its their fault they don't vote Republican. But you guys don't need to make any adjustments it's all the Asians, Mexicans, Muslims, Black's, Native Americans, et cetera et cetera fault they don't vote for you. Because they are brainwashed

[Quadzilla99]

Forget about blacks and everyone else voting tribally white people generally always vote Republican and no one gives them any shit about it. Even in Virginia where Northam beat Gillespie by like 10 points he still lost Whites by 17 points. It's not overwhelming like it is with blacks and Democrats and Asians and Democrats but it's still a huge trend. Even in 2008 I'll bet Obama lost whites handily even while winning a relative landslide.

Hell in Alabama they ran a child molester and still won the white vote by like 50 points

[Quadzilla99]

Literally the only group Republicans can win is white people and they win them even when they run horrible candidates and lose the overall election and no one gives them any shit at all about it

[Spurtacular]

Instead how about you tell us why Republicans can't win any group but white people. literally no one but white people will vote for republicans. And every single one of the minority groups its their fault they don't vote Republican. But you guys don't need to make any adjustments it's all the Asians, Mexicans, Muslims, Black's, Native Americans, et cetera et cetera fault they don't vote for you. Because they are brainwashed

Can't explain your anomaly? Maybe they are brainwashed unless you have a good reason for it.

[DMC]

Literally the only group Republicans can win is white people and they win them even when they run horrible candidates and lose the overall election and no one gives them any shit at all about it

As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

Tribalism?

Why won't any of you answer this? Spurminator abandoned that claim but quick.

[Quadzilla99]

As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

Tribalism?

Why won't any of you answer this? Spurminator abandoned that claim but quick.

Maybe that's true then but it's also true to a lesser degree for whites.

[baseline bum]

Forget about blacks and everyone else voting tribally white people generally always vote Republican and no one gives them any shit about it. Even in Virginia where Northam beat Gillespie by like 10 points he still lost Whites by 17 points. It's not overwhelming like it is with blacks and Democrats and Asians and Democrats but it's still a huge trend. Even in 2008 I'll bet Obama lost whites handily even while winning a relative landslide.

Hell in Alabama they ran a child molester and still won the white vote by like 50 points

McCain 56-44 not counting Mexicans

http://news.gallup.com/poll/112132/election-polls-vote-groups-2008.aspx

[Spurminator]

Red herring.

Do you consider blacks who only vote for a person because of the color of their skin, who concern themselves with mainly black issues, to be tribal and therefore on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum?

Depends on the "black issue." If the issue is keeping non-black races from infiltrating their culture, taking their jobs, coming into the country, etc., then yes, I would consider those people to be dumb.

You can't redefine Trumpist nationalism and then call it a red herring when I don't play along.

[Spurminator]

As recently as 2012, studies show that 47 percent of blacks identify as liberal and 45 percent as conservative, but 93 percent voted for the reelection of Barack Obama.

Tribalism?

Why don't you post the numbers who identify as Democrat? Why is Barack Obama the only example you provide for someone black people voted overwhelmingly for?

Such intellectual dishonesty...



Why won't any of you answer this? Spurminator abandoned that claim but quick.

I don't post on ST while I'm driving. Have some patience.

[DMC]

Depends on the "black issue." If the issue is keeping non-black races from infiltrating their culture, taking their jobs, coming into the country, etc., then yes, I would consider those people to be dumb.

You can't redefine Trumpist nationalism and then call it a red herring when I don't play along.

Can you provide a definition of "tribalism" that stipulates the things you said (in bold)?

[Chucho]

Totally irrelevant, but funny to this pitty-patter party...I know maybe ten, 15 educated blacks, most here in California, but some back home...all lean Right. I know thrice as many "the man be holding me down" echo chamber blacks, almost all lean Left.

Not an indication or anything to stereotype on, but fwiw I guess.

[DMC]

[FONT=Verdana]

Why don't you post the numbers who identify as Democrat? Why is Barack Obama the only example you provide for someone black people voted overwhelmingly for?

Because he was the only black president?


Such intellectual dishonesty...



I don't post on ST while I'm driving. Have some patience.
"There are two explanations for this incongruence. The first centers on racial unity: Black voters use the group’s well-being as a proxy for their own interests; the “black utility heuristic.” Other studies suggest racial identity and social pressure shape blacks into an electoral monolith. The idea is that blacks vote similarly as a show of solidarity." -Washington Post

"Tribalism is the state of being organized in or an advocate for a tribe or tribes. In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group.[1]" - Wiki


So you still want to stick with that very convenient, cherry picked, narrow ass defintion of "tribalism", basically that it only applies to white people (the least monolithic voter base)?

Try again

[DMC]

McCain 56-44 not counting Mexicans

http://news.gallup.com/poll/112132/election-polls-vote-groups-2008.aspx

Black

99 - 1

[Spurminator]

Can you provide a definition of "tribalism" that stipulates the things you said (in bold)?

Those are very specific tribalist views that are not likely to be specifically called out in any definition of tribalism. In the context of a discussion about Trump tribalism, they are apt. But go ahead and see how interested I am in a semantic discussion of what tribalism means to you.

[DMC]

Those are very specific tribalist views that are not likely to be specifically called out in any definition of tribalism. In the context of a discussion about Trump tribalism, they are apt. But go ahead and see how interested I am in a semantic discussion of what tribalism means to you.

You tried the faux intellectualism and made that silly ass remark about tribalism. Now you say there is no definition for it, so it's Spurminator's version of tribalism that indicates low intelligence, which just happens to be whatever is convenient for the discussion. It's obvious you aren't interested in backing up your statement.

Thanks for clearing it up.

[Spurminator]

Because he was the only black president?

How do white Democrats typically fare with the black vote? How did Tim Scott do in South Carolina?


So you still want to stick with that very convenient, cherry picked, narrow ass defintion of "tribalism", basically that it only applies to white people (the least monolithic voter base)?

I didn't say it only applies to white people. There are absolutely tribalist blacks who are unintelligent. You're equating blacks voting along Democrat party lines with tribalism, and you're trying to validate your own feelings about black voters through me. Not gonna work, sucka.

[Spurminator]

You tried the faux intellectualism and made that silly ass remark about tribalism. Now you say there is no definition for it, so it's Spurminator's version of tribalism that indicates low intelligence, which just happens to be whatever is convenient for the discussion. It's obvious you aren't interested in backing up your statement.

Thanks for clearing it up.

:lol Didn't say that either.

You're really trying hard here to direct the conversation where you want it to go, but it's way too transparent.

[DMC]

How do white Democrats typically fare with the black vote? How did Tim Scott do in South Carolina?

I didn't say it only applies to white people. There are absolutely tribalist blacks who are unintelligent. You're equating blacks voting along Democrat party lines with tribalism, and you're trying to validate your own feelings about black voters through me. Not gonna work, sucka.

If they are doing it for the reasons stated in the Washington Post, then sure. It meets the definition.

You're the one who attached the "low intelligence" label. now you want to project that onto me. You deal with it.

[Spurminator]

If they are doing it for the reasons stated in the Washington Post, then sure. It meets the definition.

Well maybe if we were talking about the Washington Post article when I brought it up, you would have a point. :lol

[Spurminator]

And you missed the questions about Tim Scott and white Democrats. Still looking up Tim Scott?

[DMC]

:lol Didn't say that either.

You're really trying hard here to direct the conversation where you want it to go, but it's way too transparent.


It's valid. Trump was abandoned by every Republican non-politician that anyone would consider a conservative intellect. His appeal, outside of empty greed, is exclusively tribal, and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence.


Well maybe if we were talking about the Washington Post article when I brought it up, you would have a point. :lol

So if we aren't talking about the dictionary, none of the word meanings actually matter?

The WaPo article was taken from data posted on many MSM sites.

I'm not going to continue this. You obviously have no intention of supporting your statement, even though you'll swear otherwise. Anyone who gives a shit can read it all and decide for themselves.

No, I'm not looking up Tim Scott. I don't care for your tangents. You moved the goalposts and want me to play along.

[Spurminator]

"If you don't use the definition I've chosen based on a separate article we're not discussing, then you must not believe there's any definition for it."

Okay. Bye then!

[DMC]

"If you don't use the definition I've chosen based on a separate article we're not discussing, then you must not believe there's any definition for it."

Okay. Bye then!

The article didn't define tribalism. It established that blacks vote based on a black utility heuristic. It doesn't even mention tribalism. The black utility heuristic is tribalism defined, ergo low intelligence, according to you.
You again, trying to use slight of hand to hide your fuck up.

You have no idea, do you?

[Spurminator]

The article didn't define tribalism. It established that blacks vote based on a black utility heuristic. It doesn't even mention tribalism. The black utility heuristic is tribalism defined, ergo low intelligence, according to you.
You again, trying to use slight of hand to hide your fuck up.

You have no idea, do you?

Welcome back!

As a reminder, here is my initial comment that you've taken two pages worth of issue with:


Trump was abandoned by every Republican non-politician that anyone would consider a conservative intellect. His appeal, outside of empty greed, is exclusively tribal, and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence.

So nothing about a "white utility heuristic" or anything similar to what your article that didn't define or mention tribalism covered.

Now, please point to an example of a black candidate who has displayed the same kind of tribalism that Trump appealed to.

[Chucho]

Now, please point to an example of a black candidate who has displayed the same kind of tribalism that Trump appealed to.[/COLOR]

Marion Berry

[Chucho]

Maxine Waters

[Spurminator]

Marion Berry

Maxine Waters

Same as Trump? Wall-building, Muslim-suspicious, make America great again Trump?

Explain.

[Chucho]

Same as Trump? Wall-building, Muslim-suspicious, make America great again Trump?

Explain.

Meh, while not "white nationalist" appeals, both appeal to the "disenfranchised black" and not many, if any, "intellectuals" support/supported them.

Appealing to tribalist voting blocks is the tangent I was drawing a comparison to.

[DMC]

Welcome back!

As a reminder, here is my initial comment that you've taken two pages worth of issue with:



So nothing about a "white utility heuristic" or anything similar to what your article that didn't define or mention tribalism covered.

Now, please point to an example of a black candidate who has displayed the same kind of tribalism that Trump appealed to.

"and tribalism is a characteristic of lower intelligence"

You don't say "Trump tribalism...." just "tribalism".

I showed you the definition of tribalism, and how black voters meet that definition.

My work is done. I don't need to provide any black candidates to illustrate that you consider black voters to have lower intelligence because of tribalism.

[Spurminator]

Meh, while not "white nationalist" appeals, both appeal to the "disenfranchised black" and not many, if any, "intellectuals" support/supported them.

Appealing to tribalist voting blocks is the tangent I was drawing a comparison to.

I mean I can agree to some extent that Waters plays up the black victimization role and probably gets some of the tribalist black vote as a result. I think her success is due primarily to incumbency as the Democrat candidate at this point. I couldn't say for sure that she'd be a lock against another strong Democrat challenger, but if the challenger was white? Sure, she'd probably get a lot of votes on race alone.

I'm not really familiar with Barry's political career other than the crack, tbh.

Trump beat a dozen other white primary candidates because of his message, not his race.

[rjv]

i guess it was a slow weekend.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

lol Steve Urkel makes his comeback.

[florige]

lol Steve Urkel makes his comeback.


I saw that today. lol

[Spurtacular]

Had the golden goose in acting and decided he should still have a go at basketball.

:lol

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