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DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 02:16 PM
Careful you don't cut yourself on that edge there bro!
Real talk though thank you for the interesting factoids in that last post. Romans and Nazis killed people, you learn something new everyday! You're a valuable contributor to the online community with great insight and fresh takes, and don't let anyone tell you differently.
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 02:17 PM
David resorting to posting memes after trying to blackwash history:lol
yew jess kent dew teengs lyke det!
Pavlov
12-21-2017, 02:21 PM
David resorting to posting memes after trying to blackwash history:lol
yew jess kent dew teengs lyke det!:lol blackwash
It was only a few hundred thousand minorities! Let whitey have this one all for himself, please!
Some sad shit, right there.
AaronY
12-21-2017, 02:22 PM
Real talk though thank you for the interesting factoids in that last post. Romans and Nazis killed people, you learn something new everyday! You're a valuable contributor to the online community with great insight and fresh takes, and don't let anyone tell you differently.
On the last few pages you've basically called anyone who doesn't agree with your positions a pussy or pointed out that you're older than people or maybe make more money than them. That's been your entire substantive contributions to this thread lol
Pavlov
12-21-2017, 02:22 PM
On the last few pages you've basically called anyone who doesn't agree with your positions a pussy or pointed out that you're older than people or maybe make more money than them. That's been your entire substantive contributions to this thread lolHe's threatened.
AaronY
12-21-2017, 02:24 PM
Imagine that your entire schtick is that people aren't tough enough to admit the truth about the world and be pro-white nationalist. Then mocking the complexity of other people's arguments lmao
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 02:29 PM
On the last few pages you've basically called anyone who doesn't agree with your positions a pussy or pointed out that you're older than people or maybe make more money than them. That's been your entire substantive contributions to this thread lol
It's not that I'm better than you, it's that you don't have anything to say that I couldn't get from reading a spurminator or chumpdumper post. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Clipper Nation
12-21-2017, 03:15 PM
Only thing nationalized were trusts, not “all corporate entities.”
Not true. Hitler's regime nationalized the agricultural sector and controlled production decisions, prices and wages in many major industries.
Chucho
12-21-2017, 03:20 PM
It's not that I'm better than you, it's that you don't have anything to say that I couldn't get from reading a spurminator or chumpdumper post. Correct me if I'm wrong.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT34Sk1EvCqrKMEv7y7jAo7kcJQM-iRANo1-JRj0unneFBxueRMUQ
Mark Celibate
12-21-2017, 05:48 PM
Not true. Hitler's regime nationalized the agricultural sector and controlled production decisions, prices and wages in many major industries.
It’s been discussed, war planning
Spurminator
12-21-2017, 06:09 PM
It's not that I'm better than you, it's that you don't have anything to say that I couldn't get from reading a spurminator or chumpdumper post. Correct me if I'm wrong.
For the record, I do not claim any ownership of mocking white supremacists and welcome anyone who so desires to contribute to the activity.
Real talk though thank you for the interesting factoids in that last post. Romans and Nazis killed people, you learn something new everyday! You're a valuable contributor to the online community with great insight and fresh takes, and don't let anyone tell you differently.
How many times did he use the word "like" in his post though? It could show that he's reduced the bong hits per post.
careful, you might trigger a native american to be offended on behalf of white people
Like how you and Chumpy there are offended for blacks? Careful Philo, if you suck his dick any harder you'll rupture his prostate gland.
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 06:47 PM
Like how you and Chumpy there are offended for blacks? Careful Philo, if you suck his dick any harder you'll rupture his prostate gland.
ive never been personally offended for blacks the way you apparently have been for whites
Chris
12-21-2017, 06:47 PM
Real talk though thank you for the interesting factoids in that last post. Romans and Nazis killed people, you learn something new everyday! You're a valuable contributor to the online community with great insight and fresh takes, and don't let anyone tell you differently.
:lmao
ive never been personally offended for blacks the way you apparently have been for whites
You've never actually committed to anything on here, just so you can make chickenshit statements like the one you just made. You'll just lob shit bombs at the concepts you disagree with, you won't ever get in the fray.
You're afraid one day a client or employer will track this shit down and you'll be here saying incriminating shit. Nothing like hiding in the safety of nuance.
It's not a bad career decision, but it makes you boring as fuck to debate with.
Pavlov
12-21-2017, 06:52 PM
Like how you and Chumpy there are offended for blacks? Careful Philo, if you suck his dick any harder you'll rupture his prostate gland.Eh, I just mentioned minorities fought the Nazis in substantial numbers. That includes Native Americans but if you want to take a seat with DD and Darrin at their racially pure cultural memory lunch counter, you're good to go.
I know you weren't talking to me but... chirp chirp, chirp.
Pavlov
12-21-2017, 06:55 PM
You've never actually committed to anything on here, just so you can make chickenshit statements like the one you just made. You'll just lob shit bombs at the concepts you disagree with, you won't ever get in the fray. This is different from you how?
Clipper Nation
12-21-2017, 07:06 PM
It’s been discussed, war planning
No, it was a dictatorship's economic ignorance and desire to control everything.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-21-2017, 07:08 PM
It’s been discussed, war planning
It's also been discussed that it started before the invasion of the Czechs or the Georring plan.
Mark Celibate
12-21-2017, 07:19 PM
The Nazis and the Coliseum would be exhibits A and B for me if I was arguing with a full on biological racist about which races are least disposed to be violent. Like all races are shit since I think humans inherently have violence hardwired into them through evolution when you get down to it (its partially how we got to the top of the food chain) so not trying to make whites look worst here but those two are maybe the biggest horror shows for the whites. Holocaust we been through ad nauseam so not gonna rehash that.
But Coliseum blows my mind. The Romans would gather for hundreds of years and basically watch horribly gory snuff films en masse and get off on it basically. Somewhere around 400,000 people died in them and they lasted for centuries like I said. They would get fed to animals, kids would watch this shit, and many who were killed were just like people who didn't like pay their taxes or were the wrong religion. And these were people who are like biologically identical to the people walking around today
Wow, an original take for once, and no surprise that it's complete shit.
How can you call someone else racist when you just racially stereotyped another group? Is it ok to only to do it as long as it's at one particular group?
:lmao
And yeah, I'm sure us being hardwired for violence is the reason we're at the top of the food chain. Has nothing to do at all with us being the only species to actually think logically two steps beyond where to eat and shit. Those darn lions....if only they were just more violent, they'd be up here with us.
http://laoblogger.com/images/reading-lion-clipart-9.jpg
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 07:40 PM
You've never actually committed to anything on here, just so you can make chickenshit statements like the one you just made. You'll just lob shit bombs at the concepts you disagree with, you won't ever get in the fray.
i'll actually commit to the fact that unlike you, i've never been personally offended on behalf of a different race
how does it feel to constantly align with Chris and Spurtacular on seemingly every issue?
i'll actually commit to the fact that unlike you, i've never been personally offended on behalf of a different race
how does it feel to constantly align with Chris and Spurtacular on seemingly every issue?
Another non-comment clumsily masquerading as a position.
dabom
12-21-2017, 07:46 PM
i'll actually commit to the fact that unlike you, i've never been personally offended on behalf of a different race
how does it feel to constantly align with Chris and Spurtacular on seemingly every issue?
:cry they all alts brah :cry
AaronY
12-21-2017, 08:48 PM
Wow, an original take for once, and no surprise that it's complete shit.
Thanks man thats a big compliment from the guy who talks about race so much that its like 99% of his posts then when asked itt what his original takes on black crime are he goes
"Uh lets see what I got here. How bout LBJ 200 year niqqer quote. You guys ever hear that one?
And, uh what else oh i know....hey did you guys know black people are shooting each other in Chicago?"
Really compliment is massive.
And my take wasn't to say that whites are worse than other races it was just a response to partially your claim that whites are minding their own business and the other races cause 99% of the problems. which you know the holocaust you know not really a good point in that direction. Those whites are 100% biologically the same as the whites currently on Earth. Also the Coliseum not a good look to me when I think about whites being the ones who don't like violence. My point was all races can be horribly violent.
Also, when I think about the Coliseum I think about how fucked up human beings are not white people.
The food chain thing I said partially humans being violent got them to the top of the food chain. Partially.
AaronY
12-21-2017, 08:52 PM
The Nazis and the Coliseum would be exhibits A and B for me if I was arguing with a full on biological racist about which races are least disposed to be violent. Like all races are shit since I think humans inherently have violence hardwired into them through evolution when you get down to it (its partially how we got to the top of the food chain) so not trying to make whites look worst here but those two are maybe the biggest horror shows for the whites. Holocaust we been through ad nauseam so not gonna rehash that.
But Coliseum blows my mind. The Romans would gather for hundreds of years and basically watch horribly gory snuff films en masse and get off on it basically. Somewhere around 400,000 people died in them and they lasted for centuries like I said. They would get fed to animals, kids would watch this shit, and many who were killed were just like people who didn't like pay their taxes or were the wrong religion. And these were people who are like biologically identical to the people walking around today
Like you'd really have to either fundamentally misread this either on purpose or just to mangle it to make me look like a mongoloid to say its an attack on whites. LIke I was saying those two would be my worst case scenarios for whites in terms of the most violent fucked up things they did if I was to make a case against them. Thats all.
In the previous pages someone managed to bring up the holocaust as a scenario where whites were violent and amazingly botched it by implying that whites didn't stop them or something. So thats what I was referring to.
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 08:58 PM
Thanks man thats a big compliment from the guy who talks about race so much that its like 99% of his posts then when asked itt what his original takes on black crime are he goes
"Uh lets see what I got here. How bout LBJ 200 year niqqer quote. You guys ever hear that one?
And, uh what else oh i know....hey did you guys know black people are shooting each other in Chicago?"
Really compliment is massive.
And my take wasn't to say that whites are worse than other races it was just a response to partially your claim that whites are minding their own business and the other races cause 99% of the problems. which you know the holocaust you know not really a good point in that direction. Those whites are 100% biologically the same as the whites currently on Earth. Also the Coliseum not a good look to me when I think about whites being the ones who don't like violence. My point was all races can be horribly violent.
Also, when I think about the Coliseum I think about how fucked up human beings are not white people.
The food chain thing I said partially humans being violent got them to the top of the food chain. Partially.
dont get him started on the alleged holocaust
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 08:58 PM
yeah it sucked the first time you posted it, I wouldn't double-down now
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:01 PM
Minorities are committing all the crime and victimizing us while the media hides it and the government cheats statistics by calling Hispanics and mixed race “white.” In Europe they simply refuse to include ethnicity into account at all in crime statistics and report perpetrators simply as “British male” or “german male.” Hell just look at the recent scandal in Sweden where people found out that 75% of crime was perpetrated by those with “migrant background.” And even if no crimes were committed they take money and resources out of white households which are then reallocated to minorities for breeedingn purposes while we can afford 2 kids max. And misgenation is also lowering the amount of white children being born. So yes their very presence is unwanted and a threat to our existence as a race.
Crime has been going down massively the last several decades. You'd have to be a flatout racist who ignores all facts to imply it's reaching sone kind of tipping point
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/21/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-26/us-crime-rate-rises-slightly-remains-near-20-year-low
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 09:02 PM
i'll actually commit to the fact that unlike you, i've never been personally offended on behalf of a different race
how does it feel to constantly align with Chris and Spurtacular on seemingly every issue?
brah...he does have a point though, you're a chickenshit on pretty much every issue. It could be Coke vs. Pepsi and you'd still find a way to over-analyze and play the middle. Have some pride and hold a conviction for fucksake. How does it feel to constantly align with quacks like boutons and randomguy? (see what I did there?). Don't whore yourself out for cheap atta-boys like the aarons and quadzillas of the world:lol
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 09:04 PM
brah...he does have a point though, you're a chickenshit on pretty much every issue. It could be Coke vs. Pepsi and you'd still find a way to over-analyze and play the middle. Have some pride and hold a conviction for fucksake. How does it feel to constantly align with quacks like boutons and randomguy? (see what I did there?). Don't whore yourself out for cheap atta-boys like the aarons and quadzillas of the world:lol
not really. he just keeps repeating that because it makes him feel better. name a political question/controversy and it probably wouldn't be hard to dig up posts where its pretty clear where i stand. the two of us used to argue about russell wilson all the time tbh, ive made my "stance" on that pretty clear (whether we agreed or disagreed is immaterial)
i mean, most of my beef with DMC started in an argument about steph curry where DMC said he's overrated and i said no he isn't, and somehow that got translated into "you're not taking a stance on curry"... and he's been parroting that shtick ever since.
dabom
12-21-2017, 09:05 PM
brah...he does have a point though, you're a chickenshit on pretty much every issue. It could be Coke vs. Pepsi and you'd still find a way to over-analyze and play the middle. Have some pride and hold a conviction for fucksake. How does it feel to constantly align with quacks like boutons and randomguy? (see what I did there?). Don't whore yourself out for cheap atta-boys like the aarons and quadzillas of the world:lol
Did someone say chickenshit? Chris TSA :lol
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:05 PM
brah...he does have a point though, you're a chickenshit on pretty much every issue. It could be Coke vs. Pepsi and you'd still find a way to over-analyze and play the middle. Have some pride and hold a conviction for fucksake. How does it feel to constantly align with quacks like boutons and randomguy? (see what I did there?). Don't whore yourself out for cheap atta-boys like the aarons and quadzillas of the world:lol
You've offered literally nothing but personal attacks itt :lol
Then said it was beneath you to argue with anyone and provide facts.
Then after that more personal attacks :lol
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 09:06 PM
not really. he just keeps repeating that because it makes him feel better. name a political question/controversy and it probably wouldn't be hard to dig up posts where its pretty clear where i stand
Coke or Pepsi?
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:07 PM
NYC homicide rate record lows
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyc-close-to-record-low-in-homicides-despite-terror-attacks/
Violent crimes like half of what they were in the 70s.
Tipping point!
We're on the brink!
Clipper Nation
12-21-2017, 09:07 PM
Coke or Pepsi?
"RC's pretty good too."
- spurraider
dabom
12-21-2017, 09:07 PM
Coke or Pepsi?
Who the fuck is gonna answer a patronizing question. :lmao
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 09:08 PM
Coke or Pepsi?
coke
dabom
12-21-2017, 09:09 PM
coke
You just totally owned the shit out of his pretense. :lmao
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 09:11 PM
You just totally owned the shit out of his pretense. :lmao
eh, not really. its a stupid shtick that DMC has tried to play up for years ever since we argued about whether or not steph curry was just an "overrated chucker" or that he said "draymond green needs to be benched or traded. he doesn't fit" and i disagreed. he just cant stand that "philo" took a couple of wet shits on him so he decided to cover his ears and pretended i never took a stance in the first place.
its fuckin weird, i know, but he's been riding that shtick ever since
why DD is deciding to adpot it after we've had our own share of debates over the years (with our stances pretty clearly defined) is what has me puzzled tho
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:11 PM
Somethings gotta give people!
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2016/07/Violent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png
Can't go on like this!
http://politicsthatwork.com/img/144.gif
Tipping point!
http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/violentcrime.png
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:12 PM
Lol imaginary crisis
:cry why won't you guys feed into delusions :cry
dabom
12-21-2017, 09:13 PM
eh, not really. its a stupid shtick that DMC has tried to play up for years ever since we argued about whether or not steph curry was just an "overrated chucker" or that he said "draymond green needs to be benched or traded. he doesn't fit" and i disagreed. he just cant stand that "philo" took a couple of wet shits on him so he decided to cover his ears and pretended i never took a stance in the first place.
its fuckin weird, i know, but he's been riding that shtick ever since
why DD is deciding to adpot it after we've had our own share of debates over the years (with our stances pretty clearly defined) is what has me puzzled tho
I meant this.
brah...he does have a point though, you're a chickenshit on pretty much every issue. It could be Coke vs. Pepsi and you'd still find a way to over-analyze and play the middle. Have some pride and hold a conviction for fucksake. How does it feel to constantly align with quacks like boutons and randomguy? (see what I did there?). Don't whore yourself out for cheap atta-boys like the aarons and quadzillas of the world:lol
And you said this.
coke
So he's totally fucking wrong. :lmao
spurraider21
12-21-2017, 09:13 PM
altho honestly i'd go dr pepper > coke > pepsi... tho i've cut soda out of my regular diet unless im at the movies or havin a burger or something
edit: and i'm sure DD is about to quote this post to say "see :lol, you're complicating it" even tho the coke > pepsi part is still clearly in there
dabom
12-21-2017, 09:14 PM
And can I say fuck any pepsi drinkers out there.
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 09:16 PM
You've offered literally nothing but personal attacks itt :lol
Then said it was beneath you to argue with anyone and provide facts.
Then after that more personal attacks :lol
I answered your simple question with a simple answer several pages back. Then you went on some soliloquy about how the burbs were boring and you loved cities and multiculturalism and all that other happy horseshit. It was a deep post, and I got them feels
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 09:17 PM
eh, not really. its a stupid shtick that DMC has tried to play up for years ever since we argued about whether or not steph curry was just an "overrated chucker" or that he said "draymond green needs to be benched or traded. he doesn't fit" and i disagreed. he just cant stand that "philo" took a couple of wet shits on him so he decided to cover his ears and pretended i never took a stance in the first place.
its fuckin weird, i know, but he's been riding that shtick ever since
why DD is deciding to adpot it after we've had our own share of debates over the years (with our stances pretty clearly defined) is what has me puzzled tho
You know I love you bro (maybe homo)
Chris
12-21-2017, 09:19 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jBipMHCUXjo/hqdefault.jpg
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:19 PM
I answered your simple question with a simple answer several pages back. Then you went on some soliloquy about how the burbs were boring and you loved cities and multiculturalism and all that other happy horseshit. It was a deep post, and I got them feels
Oh that's cool. Did you get a chance to eat this shit sandwich yet?
Somethings gotta give people!
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2016/07/Violent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png
Can't go on like this!
http://politicsthatwork.com/img/144.gif
Tipping point!
http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/violentcrime.png
How does it fit into your narrative that minorities are increasingly ruining society with their criminal ways?
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:23 PM
This Pew article I posted earlier has a good breakdown about crime and perception of it
3Public perceptions about crime in the U.S. often don’t align with the data. Opinion surveys regularly find that Americans believe crime is up, even when the data show it is down. In 21 Gallup surveys conducted since 1989, a majority of Americans said there was more crime in the U.S. compared with the year before, despite the generally downward trend in both violent and property crime rates during much of that period. In a Pew Research Center survey in late 2016, 57% of registered voters said crime had gotten worse since 2008, even though BJS and FBI data show that violent and property crime rates declined by double-digit percentages during that span.
Charts good too
http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/16114133/FT_16.11.16_crime_trend.png
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/21/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/
Mark Celibate
12-21-2017, 09:23 PM
No, it was a dictatorship's economic ignorance and desire to control everything.
Economic ignorance lifted Germany out of economic Hell while the rest of the world was suffering the Great Depression. It was an economic miracle.
With those crime charts, more guns=more peace
DeadlyDynasty
12-21-2017, 09:31 PM
Oh that's cool. Did you get a chance to eat this shit sandwich yet?
How does it fit into your narrative that minorities are increasingly ruining society with their criminal ways?
What the fuck are you going on about? I told you why a person might vote republican and you shit out a bunch of graphs that has nothing to do with anything I said. My man, you are unhinged
Pretty sure the Winstrol mixed with THC is affecting his cognitive functions.
Chris
12-21-2017, 09:38 PM
With those crime charts, more guns=more peace
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Trill Clinton
12-21-2017, 09:40 PM
me reading through this thread
https://media.giphy.com/media/7GfoHh2UlKCv6/giphy.gif
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 09:48 PM
What the fuck are you going on about? I told you why a person might vote republican and you shit out a bunch of graphs that has nothing to do with anything I said. My man, you are unhinged
Honestly I reread your posts and you're right. Did make an ass of myself thrre. Kind of conflated you with Mark Celibate and other generic Trump supporters in my head who are convinced the hordes of immigrants and criminal minorities coming in last 20-30 years have this country on the brink of collapse
Clipper Nation
12-21-2017, 10:24 PM
Economic ignorance lifted Germany out of economic Hell while the rest of the world was suffering the Great Depression. It was an economic miracle.
Economic ignorance led to massive food shortages and more than half the German workforce living well below the poverty line by 1935. The so-called "economic miracle" was pure propaganda.
Mark Celibate
12-21-2017, 10:28 PM
Honestly I reread your posts and you're right. Did make an ass of myself thrre. Kind of conflated you with Mark Celibate and other generic Trump supporters in my head who are convinced the hordes of immigrants and criminal minorities coming in last 20-30 years have this country on the brink of collapse
IMO, it's mainly the white cucks who have abandoned any sort of religion/community and have exchanged it with some kind of weird postmodern bullcrap modeled after Descartes where anything can be interpreted a thousand different ways. Jordan Peterson is a neurotic weirdo but he actually describes it pretty well.
There are many tipping points that have brought Western Civilization to the cesspool it is today, not just immigrant/minorities. The 'empowerment' of women, telling them to hop aboard the cock carousel in their youth, and then pushing them to pursue careers over marriage has actually been worse for our society. I could go on and on. And it's not just the 'violent immigrant' schtick that is a problem. Us whites are becoming a minority in the country and these other groups are constantly being told how evil we are. I'm sure that will only play out well for us, right? :rolleyes
There's a bunch of "Society of Black Engineers" or "Hispanic Entrepreneurs" clubs so why can't there be something similar for whites without huge backlash? Like DD said, people want to look out for their own kind. Some identify with their race. That's the main race issue IMO
Quadzilla99
12-21-2017, 11:08 PM
IMO, it's mainly the white cucks who have abandoned any sort of religion/community and have exchanged it with some kind of weird postmodern bullcrap modeled after Descartes where anything can be interpreted a thousand different ways. Jordan Peterson is a neurotic weirdo but he actually describes it pretty well.
There are many tipping points that have brought Western Civilization to the cesspool it is today, not just immigrant/minorities. The 'empowerment' of women, telling them to hop aboard the cock carousel in their youth, and then pushing them to pursue careers over marriage has actually been worse for our society. I could go on and on. And it's not just the 'violent immigrant' schtick that is a problem. Us whites are becoming a minority in the country and these other groups are constantly being told how evil we are. I'm sure that will only play out well for us, right? :rolleyes
There's a bunch of "Society of Black Engineers" or "Hispanic Entrepreneurs" clubs so why can't there be something similar for whites without huge backlash? Like DD said, people want to look out for their own kind. Some identify with their race. That's the main race issue IMO
The religion thing is weird for me personally because my grandfather who I idolized was very religious. He raised me when my parents shit the bed and gave me over to him. he was the hardest working decentest human being ever to me but I'm an atheist. The thing is it just seems so far fetched especially some of the stories in there that I could not believe it no matter how hard I tried. I think if the stories in the Bible had panned out better or they had been better explanations a lot more people would be religious now. But I just can't buy a lot of it myself
Mark Celibate
12-21-2017, 11:59 PM
Economic ignorance led to massive food shortages and more than half the German workforce living well below the poverty line by 1935. The so-called "economic miracle" was pure propaganda.
This post is pure propaganda, didn’t happen
Clipper Nation
12-22-2017, 12:11 AM
This post is pure propaganda, didn’t happen
Contrary to A.J.P. Taylor, by late 1935 Germany was experiencing anything but the "happy effects of mild inflation" and "freedom from orthodox principles of economics." As Kershaw writes, "A summary of price and wage levels prepared for Hitler on 4 September 1935 showed almost half of the German work-force earning gross wages of 18 ReichMarks or less per week. This was substantially below the poverty line...Wages, then, remained at the 1932 level--substantially lower than the last pre-Depression year of 1928 in the much-maligned Weimar Republic. Food prices, on the other hand, had risen officially by 8 per cent since 1933. Overall living costs were higher by 5.4 per cent. Official rates did not, however, tell the whole tale. Increases of 33, 50, and even 150 per cent had been reported for some foodstuffs. By late summer, the terms 'food crisis' and 'provisions crisis' were in common use."
These facts were well known at the time, both within and without Germany. Roberts and others had written about them, attributing the food shortages to Hitler's centralized agricultural policy, which had virtually eliminated food imports while implementing government controls. The predictable result: Germany produced less food, causing both shortages and price increases. According to Roberts, wheat went up 15 percent, eggs 50 percent, butter 40 percent, potatoes 75 percent, and most meat 50 percent--all despite "official" and ineffectual price controls which Hitler for appearances' sake refused to lift. Well into Hitler's "miracle," Kershaw notes, "poor living-standards, falling real wages, and steep price increases in some necessities...[were] the dismal reality behind the 'fine facade of the Third Reich.'"
http://reason.com/archives/1999/08/01/nazi-economics
Mark Celibate
12-22-2017, 11:23 AM
Nice source, anyone can blog their opinion no matter how wrong or shitty. Stop littering with text garbage. I’d rather believe the firsthand sources who actually lived in the third Reich. People loved their Führer and most certainly had better living conditions than previously. That’s why his popularity was so high and people accepted his authoritarian rule. You couldn’t even have an army without food provisions, think before you post.
AaronY
12-22-2017, 12:20 PM
me reading through this thread
https://media.giphy.com/media/7GfoHh2UlKCv6/giphy.gif
Lmfao
AaronY
12-22-2017, 12:36 PM
dont get him started on the alleged holocaust
He's a holocaust denier?
spurraider21
12-22-2017, 12:55 PM
Nice source, anyone can blog their opinion no matter how wrong or shitty. Stop littering with text garbage. I’d rather believe the firsthand sources who actually lived in the third Reich. People loved their Führer and most certainly had better living conditions than previously. That’s why his popularity was so high and people accepted his authoritarian rule. You couldn’t even have an army without food provisions, think before you post.
check out kimmy j's approval ratings in N Korea
spurraider21
12-22-2017, 12:59 PM
He's a holocaust denier?
he takes issue with the 6 million number, at least
The real issue isn't whether or not it happened. I think few people doubt that Jews were imprisoned by Germany. The issues here are whether or not the numbers/punishments are exaggerated but even more importantly, like a few people have also mentioned, is the fact that this is commonly viewed as the worst atrocity ever. Why is that? What about the Holodomor? Or the Bengal famine during WWII where the indifference of British authorities led to the starving of millions? Bet you never heard about DET one in history class!
And why is the Holocaust the one event you're not allowed to deny? For the record, I think the Holocaust happened but why am I not allowed to deny it if I wanted to? I could deny those other two events and nobody would give a shit. Unit 731 was more barbaric then the Holocaust and if I deny that one too? Nobody gives a shit. But the Holocaust? NOOOOOOOO...any sort of questioning and you're a monster. Everybody is so touchy. Look at Trump's tweet. He acknowledged the victims of the Holocaust but he was flamed since he didn't give special treatment to a certain group...
Just remember the Golden Rule, folks.
"He who has the gold, makes the rules."
AaronY
12-22-2017, 01:01 PM
Oh, lol I think I wasted my time arguing with certain people in this thread between him and the guy that told me to kill myself when I said the Holocaust was a bad look for the whites
Clipper Nation
12-22-2017, 01:03 PM
Nice source, anyone can blog their opinion no matter how wrong or shitty.
It's not the opinion of some random person on a blog. It's facts that were compiled by one of the leading historians on Nazi Germany.
People loved their Führer and most certainly had better living conditions than previously. That’s why his popularity was so high and people accepted his authoritarian rule.
Every dictatorship claims that the people love them and that they're improving their lives. That doesn't mean it's actually true, especially since dictatorships suppress dissent.
Mark Celibate
12-22-2017, 01:11 PM
((Historians)))
also
>claims
no. Austria voted 99.9% to Join the Reich. Hitler visited and mingled among the common folk and troops without incident. Obama meanwhile has to have all our troops disarmed before visiting them. The people accepted hitler because he offered them a better life and future.
AaronY
12-22-2017, 01:14 PM
This Hitler guy sounds pretty cool
spurraider21
12-22-2017, 01:15 PM
This Hitler guy sounds pretty cool
yeah i dont get why trumpers complain about the hitler comparisons as its clearly meant as a compliment
djohn2oo8
12-22-2017, 01:19 PM
944270327139438592
Spurminator
12-22-2017, 01:21 PM
It's hard to imagine people not crowding the streets to protest a violent authoritarian regime.
AaronY
12-22-2017, 01:22 PM
944270327139438592
Bannons gonna help us with by pushing forward a bunch of far right crazies like Roy Moore and that Chemtrail Kelli in Arizona and Tarkanian in Nevada who can win primaries but not generals I think. I just hope we don't respond in kind by nominating a bunch of far left maniacs
Mark Celibate
12-22-2017, 02:06 PM
944270327139438592
Dude is losing on purpose so the Dems can take the heat from republican voters for blocking trump’s agenda instead of themselves. Neither party wants to MAGA.
Mark Celibate
12-22-2017, 02:08 PM
It's hard to imagine people not crowding the streets to protest a violent authoritarian regime.because they supported it. Just like Isis had heavy support in the Sunni areas they once controlled. Even in Korea they successfully framed it as imperialist America attacking them and taking sides in their civil war. Remember the Koreas were at war before we took sides. And when Kim tells his people the reason you are starving is because of American economic warfare he isn’t wrong. Maybe it’s possible one day the Korean regime won’t last. The ones that don’t do good for their people never do. Many a king went to the gallows.
the real illusion is thinking that you are not in a dictatorship yourself. One run by corporations, media, and shady groups with aspirations to control the world. Before trump came along you didn’t really have a vote, it was all bullshit. Establishment puppet A and establishment puppet B.
Spurminator
12-22-2017, 02:21 PM
because they supported it. Just like Isis had heavy support in the Sunni areas they once controlled. Even in Korea they successfully framed it as imperialist America attacking them and taking sides in their civil war. Remember the Koreas were at war before we took sides. And when Kim tells his people the reason you are starving is because of American economic warfare he isn’t wrong. Maybe it’s possible one day the Korean regime won’t last. The ones that don’t do good for their people never do. Many a king went to the gallows.
the real illusion is thinking that you are not in a dictatorship yourself. One run by corporations, media, and shady groups with aspirations to control the world. Before trump came along you didn’t really have a vote, it was all bullshit. Establishment puppet A and establishment puppet B.
:lol
Sounds like you'd make a good North Korean, if only you could get over being a minority there.
spurraider21
12-22-2017, 02:33 PM
because they supported it. Just like Isis had heavy support in the Sunni areas they once controlled. Even in Korea they successfully framed it as imperialist America attacking them and taking sides in their civil war. Remember the Koreas were at war before we took sides. And when Kim tells his people the reason you are starving is because of American economic warfare he isn’t wrong. Maybe it’s possible one day the Korean regime won’t last. The ones that don’t do good for their people never do. Many a king went to the gallows.
the real illusion is thinking that you are not in a dictatorship yourself. One run by corporations, media, and shady groups with aspirations to control the world. Before trump came along you didn’t really have a vote, it was all bullshit. Establishment puppet A and establishment puppet B.
so you got so tired of the rich elites running things from behind the scenes that you decided the solution was to elect one outright
AaronY
12-22-2017, 02:39 PM
Between the Trump/Bannons and the Bernie government as Santa Clause bullshit a bunch of establishment puppets deciding things in smoke filled backrooms sounds pretty damn good to me right about now
Clipper Nation
12-22-2017, 02:52 PM
((Historians)))
The historian in question isn't even Jewish - not that it would change the facts even if he was.
no. Austria voted 99.9% to Join the Reich.
You do realize that the referendum was rigged, right?
This ballot paper crudely follows the advice of Dr Josef Goebbels, that 'the most effective form of persuasion is when you are not aware you are being persuaded'. Translated, it reads: 'Do you approve of the reunification of Austria with the German Reich that was enacted on 13 March 1938 and do you vote for the party of our leader, Adolf Hitler? Yes. No.'
It does several things no ballot should be allowed to do — it conflates two separate questions, uses mention of the Anschluss to 'prime' voters by referencing Hitler's recent 'triumph' and arranges the tick boxes to create a default answer.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/05/how-to-fix-an-election/
The overwhelming vote of approval was a half-truth. The other half of the truth paints a considerably different picture — one of power seekers using political power, military might, and corrupt electoral practices.
The time was 1938 and the Nazis had their eyes on Austria for their next conquest. They were aided in this case by a desire that had already existed in the hearts of many Germans and Austrians to unite. Hitler's strategy was to take advantage of that desire while taking over Austria primarily via diplomatic and behind-the-scenes maneuvers. That February Hitler coerced Austrian Chancellor Kurt Schuschnigg into signing an agreement at Berchtesgaden. The agreement included provisions for amnesty for imprisoned Nazis in Austria and appointing of such Nazi sympathizers as Arthur Seyss-Inquart into high-level posts in the Austrian government.
Schuschnigg observed Hitler’s skillful use of referendum elections to build an illusion of government by consent of the governed. It was Hitler's way of claiming legitimacy. Hitler's lopsided victories were in large part due to controlling the wording of the questions on the ballot, the timing of the elections, and the news media, plus voter intimidation and undocumented rules of vote counting, as well as behind-closed-doors vote counts and accumulation of vote totals. The Nazis had a habit of keeping election results behind closed doors until they were ready to announce results. By coincidence that also gave them the opportunity to make adjustments to the totals and subtotals, if necessary, to ensure the end results were what they wanted.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/15064-75th-anniversary-of-the-anschluss-election
You would have to be extremely gullible to believe the vote totals that a dictatorship puts out there.
Mark Celibate
12-22-2017, 04:30 PM
Nice unbiased sources you’ve got there brah.
Pavlov
12-22-2017, 04:58 PM
Nice unbiased sources you’ve got there brah.
Are your sources unbiased?
Clipper Nation
12-22-2017, 05:09 PM
Nice unbiased sources you’ve got there brah.
At least I've provided sources. You've just doubled down on the propaganda slogans and made excuses.
dabom
12-22-2017, 05:17 PM
At least I've provided sources. You've just doubled down on the propaganda slogans and made excuses.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-22-2017, 05:35 PM
White people don't vote as a bloc. Poor and/or uneducated whites do though.
DarrinS
12-22-2017, 05:46 PM
White people don't vote as a bloc. Poor and/or uneducated whites do though.
Lolz
White men with no college degree: 71% Trump
Black men with no college degree: 83% Clinton
White women with no college degree: 61% Trump
Black women with no college degree: 95% Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/
FuzzyLumpkins
12-22-2017, 05:49 PM
Lolz
White men with no college degree: 71% Trump
Black men with no college degree: 83% Clinton
White women with no college degree: 61% Trump
Black women with no college degree: 95% Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/
That is still a bloc. I get that you are into the white supremacy thing and that is the point of your distinction but the fact that a minority group votes as a bloc does not mean uneducated whites don't too.
AaronY
12-22-2017, 05:53 PM
Lolz
White men with no college degree: 71% Trump
Black men with no college degree: 83% Clinton
White women with no college degree: 61% Trump
Black women with no college degree: 95% Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/
Black woman are awesome between Virginia and the Roy Moore election only thing holding this sorry ass country together tbh
DarrinS
12-22-2017, 05:53 PM
I get that you are into the white supremacy thing ...
^Same thing Chump says when he’s mad. :lol
Pavlov
12-22-2017, 06:01 PM
^Same thing Chump says when he’s mad. :lol
Nah I just say you're racist when you post racist stuff.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-22-2017, 06:16 PM
^Same thing Chump says when he’s mad. :lol
Except I am not mad and you made a qualitative comparison between the two and judged whitey superior in said comparison. That is textbook white supremacy, racism, etc.
It's one thing when that accusation is made out of nowhere but that is not the case here. You are really really big on the white identity politics.
DarrinS
12-22-2017, 07:17 PM
White people don't vote as a bloc. Poor and/or uneducated whites do though.
Lolz
White men with no college degree: 71% Trump
Black men with no college degree: 83% Clinton
White women with no college degree: 61% Trump
Black women with no college degree: 95% Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/
Except I am not mad and you made a qualitative comparison between the two and judged whitey superior in said comparison. That is textbook white supremacy, racism, etc.
It's one thing when that accusation is made out of nowhere but that is not the case here. You are really really big on the white identity politics.
That data is racist!
AaronY
12-22-2017, 08:52 PM
This belongs here obviously
https://pbs-h2.twimg.com/media/C8I_A1wUAAEHXSr.jpg
Should have been on page 1 tbh I apologize for the lateness
AaronY
12-22-2017, 08:53 PM
It's also a good cliff notes for the last 5-7 pages or so tbh
Clipper Nation
12-22-2017, 09:19 PM
This belongs here obviously
https://pbs-h2.twimg.com/media/C8I_A1wUAAEHXSr.jpg
Should have been on page 1 tbh I apologize for the lateness
This is like a left-wing equivalent of the memes that Chris spams all the time.
spurraider21
12-22-2017, 09:24 PM
This is like a left-wing equivalent of the memes that Chris (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) spams all the time.
The description of the guy on the left is pretty spot on with respect to chris, spurtacular, koriwhat, bump, and dd tho, based on their comments
AaronY
12-22-2017, 09:46 PM
The description of the guy on the left is pretty spot on with respect to chris, spurtacular, koriwhat, bump, and dd tho, based on their comments
It always reminds me of the time I asked mavsfan100 why they don't ever crack down on the people who hire all these illegals and he said they were good job creators and the illegals were the problem
koriwhat
12-23-2017, 05:00 PM
That data is racist!
fuzzys a fag who would blow anyone if it meant he'd be saved from his white guilt. fuck that puto!
koriwhat
12-23-2017, 05:03 PM
The description of the guy on the left is pretty spot on with respect to chris, spurtacular, koriwhat, bump, and dd tho, based on their comments
yeah, real spot on because i have never lived in a trailer, in the country, etc... nor did i vote ever for a republican. you're a fucking retard. the left is so progressive but they're still a bunch of jump to conclusions/make fun of people type of fucking morons like yourself spurraider.
spurraider21
12-23-2017, 05:05 PM
yeah, real spot on because i have never lived in a trailer, in the country, etc... nor did i vote ever for a republican. you're a fucking retard. the left is so progressive but they're still a bunch of jump to conclusions/make fun of people type of fucking morons like yourself spurraider.
it doesnt say anything about trailers. but you are showing that you jump to conclusions/make fun of people
and your whole "liberals are ruining the country and are a disease" shtick is exactly what i'm talking about by assigning the guy on the left to you :lol
koriwhat
12-23-2017, 05:06 PM
it doesnt say anything about trailers. but you are showing that you jump to conclusions/make fun of people
yeah and you're still a fucking retard.
spurraider21
12-23-2017, 05:07 PM
yeah and you're still a fucking retard.
make fun of people type of fucking morons like yourself
koriwhat
12-23-2017, 05:08 PM
...
i'm not a "progressive" so i'll call a spade a spade... retard!
spurraider21
12-23-2017, 05:24 PM
retard!
they're still a bunch of jump to conclusions/make fun of people
koriwhat
12-23-2017, 05:29 PM
...
didn't claim to be a progressive did i? but you're one and not so progressive either. take some lsd and find your fake utopia where there's 8k genders, socialism that actually works, and no orange boogeyman to trigger or break you.
Mark Celibate
12-23-2017, 08:59 PM
The description of the guy on the left is pretty spot on with respect to chris, spurtacular, koriwhat, bump, and dd tho, based on their comments
fwiw, here's the only thing I've posted in this thread so far. I'm not "anti-minority" or "anti-women". I've admitted many times how complicated politics are, and the rest of you mongoloids picking sides and fighting to the death over which corrupt party is better is laughable.
IMO, it's mainly the white cucks who have abandoned any sort of religion/community and have exchanged it with some kind of weird postmodern bullcrap modeled after Descartes where anything can be interpreted a thousand different ways. Jordan Peterson is a neurotic weirdo but he actually describes it pretty well.
There are many tipping points that have brought Western Civilization to the cesspool it is today, not just immigrant/minorities. The 'empowerment' of women, telling them to hop aboard the cock carousel in their youth, and then pushing them to pursue careers over marriage has actually been worse for our society. I could go on and on. And it's not just the 'violent immigrant' schtick that is a problem. Us whites are becoming a minority in the country and these other groups are constantly being told how evil we are. I'm sure that will only play out well for us, right? :rolleyes
There's a bunch of "Society of Black Engineers" or "Hispanic Entrepreneurs" clubs so why can't there be something similar for whites without huge backlash? Like DD said, people want to look out for their own kind. Some identify with their race. That's the main race issue IMO
I'm not against minorities nor women 100% outright. I just question why we have to embrace "diversity" and why it's a good thing. I've called out the white race many times to pick up the slack. For example, get off instagram, quit partying all the time/watching football, and embrace the STEM careers. Quit thinking it's for the Asians and Indians. As far as blacks go, there are some hard working, blue collar ones that are hilarious and they really know how to have fun in any situation. It's the young, inner city blacks who have fallen victim to gangster black culture that I avoid. Black culture is the absolute worst, there's no denying it. But the ones that have risen above it, have respect from me. Also, while I am fairly comfortable financially, am I not allowed to be against affirmative blacktion, Women in STEM, etc? They want to better themselves and I want to better myself.
As I said in my previous post though, race isn't something I lose sleep about. IMO, our country is going to the shitter due to a loss of culture among other things. I can somewhat identify with Nietzche when he says that we've 'escaped' from religion but there's now a vacuum left over. Instead of going to Liturgy on Sunday, we're playing fantasy football or arguing about the the latest Star Wars film with autistic detail. Put the lightsabers down, hit the weights...please
Without culture/community there's nothing. Even Stalin eased up on the persecution of the Orthodox during WWII because there would be nothing to fight for otherwise. Currently we're sitting in some kind of weird postmodern/Marxist/nihilist culture that celebrates gender fluidity. That's not a culture I'm willing to embrace.
spurraider21
12-23-2017, 09:25 PM
You said minorities are threatening your existence as a race :lol
Mark Celibate
12-23-2017, 09:30 PM
You said minorities are threatening your existence as a race :lol
tbh I thought I mentioned this before, but this is a rogue account that a few people hijacked (because everyone knows what his password is). I'm not sure who else is using it imho
dabom
12-23-2017, 09:48 PM
tbh I thought I mentioned this before, but this is a rogue account that a few people hijacked (because everyone knows what his password is). I'm not sure who else is using it imho
:lmao
Chris
12-23-2017, 09:54 PM
tbh I thought I mentioned this before, but this is a rogue account that a few people hijacked (because everyone knows what his password is). I'm not sure who else is using it imho
I thought you were Ghazi tbh :lol
Pavlov
12-24-2017, 12:00 AM
tbh I thought I mentioned this before, but this is a rogue account that a few people hijacked (because everyone knows what his password is). I'm not sure who else is using it imho:lol
Mark Celibate
12-24-2017, 03:52 PM
White people don't vote as a bloc. Poor and/or uneducated whites do though.
By that logic 95% of Blacks are poor or uneducated
Isitjustme?
12-24-2017, 08:33 PM
:rolleyes black people :rolleyes
:rolleyes amirite guise or amirite :rolleyes
By that logic 95% of Blacks are poor or uneducated
Now now, you know Fuzzy doesn't like to be cornered into that obvious distinction he makes. They think they can make "smart white people" comments but forget the other side of the coin.
The black vote is completely ignored in Alabama by affluent white liberals. They think a bunch of professors voted Jones in.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-24-2017, 09:55 PM
By that logic 95% of Blacks are poor or uneducated
What logic is that? You cannot just change out the subject and assume the same holds true. I said poor and uneducated whites do not poor and uneducated people in general.
Your ability at logic is as shitty as your ability to apologize for Nazis.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-24-2017, 09:56 PM
Now now, you know Fuzzy doesn't like to be cornered into that obvious distinction he makes. They think they can make "smart white people" comments but forget the other side of the coin.
The black vote is completely ignored in Alabama by affluent white liberals. They think a bunch of professors voted Jones in.
Oh look storytime from Fatbody again. On Christmas Eve even!
What logic is that? You cannot just change out the subject and assume the same holds true. I said poor and uneducated whites do not poor and uneducated people in general.
Your ability at logic is as shitty as your ability to apologize for Nazis.
Oh look storytime from Fatbody again. On Christmas Eve even!
:lol
Racist remark by the forum safe spacer.
Poor, uneducated blacks somehow overcome the reason they vote in blocs.
spurraider21
12-26-2017, 04:11 PM
By that logic 95% of Blacks are poor or uneducated
that only works if you can demonstrate that all of those 95% are voting for that same reason
Spurtacular
12-26-2017, 04:27 PM
that only works if you can demonstrate that all of those 95% are voting for that same reason
:lol Tell us what you think you've "demonstrated".
boutons_deux
12-26-2017, 04:28 PM
white people who vote Repug are racists, and enable racism, since Repugs have been pandering to racists since Brown v Board of Education
spurraider21
12-26-2017, 04:33 PM
:lol Tell us what you think you've "demonstrated".
i haven't claimed to have demonstrated anything on this point. you're an idiot (you demonstrate that on a daily basis)
Spurtacular
12-26-2017, 04:37 PM
i haven't claimed to have demonstrated anything on this point. you're an idiot (you demonstrate that on a daily basis)
Triggered. (Obligatory Today's Chump Lite)
spurraider21
12-26-2017, 04:42 PM
Triggered. (Obligatory Today's Chump Lite)
white flag duly noted. same shit as Chris. when pressed about why he peddles fake news, he responds with a "triggered" meme
Pavlov
12-26-2017, 04:48 PM
Those guys just throw up weird bot responses when they don't know what they're talking about -- which is pretty often.
spurraider21
12-26-2017, 04:49 PM
Those guys just throw up weird bot responses when they don't know what they're talking about -- which is pretty often.
take this L bro
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJq5F17WwAAZhY4.jpg
Chris
12-26-2017, 06:37 PM
Hive mind collectively triggered on a Tuesday :lol
Pavlov
12-26-2017, 06:53 PM
Hive mind collectively triggered on a Tuesday :lolChris pastes 20 articles and memes; declares himself an independent thinker.
Chris
12-26-2017, 06:55 PM
:cry stop posting articles and memes :cry
Spurtacular
12-26-2017, 07:59 PM
white flag duly noted. same shit as Chris. when pressed about why he peddles fake news, he responds with a "triggered" meme
You weren't pressing me about anything for their to be a white flag.
:lol Today's Chump Lite
AaronY
12-27-2017, 05:40 PM
You weren't pressing me about anything for their to be a white flag.
:lol Today's Chump Lite
*there
One hand :claw "Dem voters are educated!"
Other hand :claw "Hillary was a shitty candidate!"
Th'Pusher
12-29-2017, 08:08 PM
One hand :claw "Dem voters are educated!"
Other hand :claw "Hillary was a shitty candidate!"
92.876%
and is it your contention these two statements are mutually exclusive?
92.876%
and is it your contention these two statements are mutually exclusive?
Obviously not :lol
Rather, the 2nd is an indictment of the 1st.
Th'Pusher
12-29-2017, 08:51 PM
Obviously not :lol
Rather, the 2nd is an indictment of the 1st.
How so?
spurraider21
12-29-2017, 08:54 PM
How so?
his is saying that it is an indictment on educated voters (tend to vote democrat) if they supported a shitty candidate (hillary)
Th'Pusher
12-29-2017, 08:56 PM
his is saying that it is an indictment on educated voters (tend to vote democrat) if they supported a shitty candidate (hillary)
I don't agree with that sentiment. There are any number of reasons educated voters supported HRC. Pragmatism for example.
his is saying that it is an indictment on educated voters (tend to vote democrat) if they supported a shitty candidate (hillary)
So Trump supporters being uneducated at least have an excuse for choosing Trump? :-)
Didn't want to interrupt your discussion but couldn't resist :-)
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