UFO stuff

[SpursforSix]

US government recovered materials it 'does not recognize' from UFO.

“No one knows what they are to this day, Mr Blumenthal told MSNBC.
“Research went into trying to identify their strange means of propulsion, their phenomenal aerodynamics which represent nothing on the face of this earth by any country."



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-ufo-alloys-program-recover-material-unidentified-flying-objects-not-recognise-us-government-a8117801.html

[spurraider21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave

ordinarily i dont doubt the ability of people to be duped, but this one always interested me since they actually scrambled F-16's and got a few radar locks

[TSA]

This was a pretty interesting documentary

Unacknowledged
https://www.netflix.com/title/80171742

[TSA]

Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program

WASHINGTON — In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find.

Which was how the Pentagon wanted it.

For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.

The Defense Department has never before acknowledged the existence of the program, which it says it shut down in 2012. But its backers say that, while the Pentagon ended funding for the effort at that time, the program remains in existence. For the past five years, they say, officials with the program have continued to investigate episodes brought to them by service members, while also carrying out their other Defense Department duties.

The shadowy program — parts of it remain classified — began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena. Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid’s, Robert Bigelow, who is currently working with NASA to produce expandable craft for humans to use in space.

On CBS’s “60 Minutes” in May, Mr. Bigelow said he was “absolutely convinced” that aliens exist and that U.F.O.s have visited Earth.

Working with Mr. Bigelow’s Las Vegas-based company, the program produced documents that describe sightings of aircraft that seemed to move at very high velocities with no visible signs of propulsion, or that hovered with no apparent means of lift.
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Officials with the program have also studied videos of encounters between unknown objects and American military aircraft — including one released in August of a whitish oval object, about the size of a commercial plane, chased by two Navy F/A-18F fighter jets from the aircraft carrier Nimitz off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

Mr. Reid, who retired from Congress this year, said he was proud of the program. “I’m not embarrassed or ashamed or sorry I got this thing going,” Mr. Reid said in a recent interview in Nevada. “I think it’s one of the good things I did in my congressional service. I’ve done something that no one has done before.”

Two other former senators and top members of a defense spending subcommittee — Ted Stevens, an Alaska Republican, and Daniel K. Inouye, a Hawaii Democrat — also supported the program. Mr. Stevens died in 2010, and Mr. Inouye in 2012.

While not addressing the merits of the program, Sara Seager, an astrophysicist at M.I.T., cautioned that not knowing the origin of an object does not mean that it is from another planet or galaxy. “When people claim to observe truly unusual phenomena, sometimes it’s worth investigating seriously,” she said. But, she added, “what people sometimes don’t get about science is that we often have phenomena that remain unexplained.”

James E. Oberg, a former NASA space shuttle engineer and the author of 10 books on spaceflight who often debunks U.F.O. sightings, was also doubtful. “There are plenty of prosaic events and human perceptual traits that can account for these stories,” Mr. Oberg said. “Lots of people are active in the air and don’t want others to know about it. They are happy to lurk unrecognized in the noise, or even to stir it up as camouflage.”

Still, Mr. Oberg said he welcomed research. “There could well be a pearl there,” he said.

In response to questions from The Times, Pentagon officials this month acknowledged the existence of the program, which began as part of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Officials insisted that the effort had ended after five years, in 2012.

“It was determined that there were other, higher priority issues that merited funding, and it was in the best interest of the DoD to make a change,” a Pentagon spokesman, Thomas Crosson, said in an email, referring to the Department of Defense.

But Mr. Elizondo said the only thing that had ended was the effort’s government funding, which dried up in 2012. From then on, Mr. Elizondo said in an interview, he worked with officials from the Navy and the C.I.A. He continued to work out of his Pentagon office until this past October, when he resigned to protest what he characterized as excessive secrecy and internal opposition.

“Why aren’t we spending more time and effort on this issue?” Mr. Elizondo wrote in a resignation letter to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.

Mr. Elizondo said that the effort continued and that he had a successor, whom he declined to name.

U.F.O.s have been repeatedly investigated over the decades in the United States, including by the American military. In 1947, the Air Force began a series of studies that investigated more than 12,000 claimed U.F.O. sightings before it was officially ended in 1969. The project, which included a study code-named Project Blue Book, started in 1952, concluded that most sightings involved stars, clouds, conventional aircraft or spy planes, although 701 remained unexplained.

Robert C. Seamans Jr., the secretary of the Air Force at the time, said in a memorandum announcing the end of Project Blue Book that it “no longer can be justified either on the ground of national security or in the interest of science.”

Mr. Reid said his interest in U.F.O.s came from Mr. Bigelow. In 2007, Mr. Reid said in the interview, Mr. Bigelow told him that an official with the Defense Intelligence Agency had approached him wanting to visit Mr. Bigelow’s ranch in Utah, where he conducted research.

Mr. Reid said he met with agency officials shortly after his meeting with Mr. Bigelow and learned that they wanted to start a research program on U.F.O.s. Mr. Reid then summoned Mr. Stevens and Mr. Inouye to a secure room in the Capitol.

“I had talked to John Glenn a number of years before,” Mr. Reid said, referring to the astronaut and former senator from Ohio, who died in 2016. Mr. Glenn, Mr. Reid said, had told him he thought that the federal government should be looking seriously into U.F.O.s, and should be talking to military service members, particularly pilots, who had reported seeing aircraft they could not identify or explain.

The sightings were not often reported up the military’s chain of command, Mr. Reid said, because service members were afraid they would be laughed at or stigmatized.

The meeting with Mr. Stevens and Mr. Inouye, Mr. Reid said, “was one of the easiest meetings I ever had.”

He added, “Ted Stevens said, ‘I’ve been waiting to do this since I was in the Air Force.’” (The Alaska senator had been a pilot in the Army’s air force, flying transport missions over China during World War II.)

During the meeting, Mr. Reid said, Mr. Stevens recounted being tailed by a strange aircraft with no known origin, which he said had followed his plane for miles.

None of the three senators wanted a public debate on the Senate floor about the funding for the program, Mr. Reid said. “This was so-called black money,” he said. “Stevens knows about it, Inouye knows about it. But that was it, and that’s how we wanted it.” Mr. Reid was referring to the Pentagon budget for classified programs.

Contracts obtained by The Times show a congressional appropriation of just under $22 million beginning in late 2008 through 2011. The money was used for management of the program, research and assessments of the threat posed by the objects.

The funding went to Mr. Bigelow’s company, Bigelow Aerospace, which hired subcontractors and solicited research for the program.

Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena. Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological changes. In addition, researchers spoke to military service members who had reported sightings of strange aircraft.

“We’re sort of in the position of what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,” said Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor for the program. “First of all, he’d try to figure out what is this plastic stuff. He wouldn’t know anything about the electromagnetic signals involved or its function.”

The program collected video and audio recordings of reported U.F.O. incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura traveling at high speed and rotating as it moves. The Navy pilots can be heard trying to understand what they are seeing. “There’s a whole fleet of them,” one exclaims. Defense officials declined to release the location and date of the incident.

“Internationally, we are the most backward country in the world on this issue,” Mr. Bigelow said in an interview. “Our scientists are scared of being ostracized, and our media is scared of the stigma. China and Russia are much more open and work on this with huge organizations within their countries. Smaller countries like Belgium, France, England and South American countries like Chile are more open, too. They are proactive and willing to discuss this topic, rather than being held back by a juvenile taboo.”

By 2009, Mr. Reid decided that the program had made such extraordinary discoveries that he argued for heightened security to protect it. “Much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace-related findings,” Mr. Reid said in a letter to William Lynn III, a deputy defense secretary at the time, requesting that it be designated a “restricted special access program” limited to a few listed officials.

A 2009 Pentagon briefing summary of the program prepared by its director at the time asserted that “what was considered science fiction is now science fact,” and that the United States was incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies discovered. Mr. Reid’s request for the special designation was denied.

Mr. Elizondo, in his resignation letter of Oct. 4, said there was a need for more serious attention to “the many accounts from the Navy and other services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.” He expressed his frustration with the limitations placed on the program, telling Mr. Mattis that “there remains a vital need to ascertain capability and intent of these phenomena for the benefit of the armed forces and the nation.”

Mr. Elizondo has now joined Mr. Puthoff and another former Defense Department official, Christopher K. Mellon, who was a deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence, in a new commercial venture called To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science. They are speaking publicly about their efforts as their venture aims to raise money for research into U.F.O.s.

In the interview, Mr. Elizondo said he and his government colleagues had determined that the phenomena they had studied did not seem to originate from any country. “That fact is not something any government or institution should classify in order to keep secret from the people,” he said.

For his part, Mr. Reid said he did not know where the objects had come from. “If anyone says they have the answers now, they’re fooling themselves,” he said. “We do not know.”

But, he said, “we have to start someplace.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?smid=tw-share

[SpursforSix]

Exactly.

[dabom]

Aliens are real.

[spurraider21]

Aliens are real.
true if huge

[dabom]

This was a pretty interesting documentary

Unacknowledged
https://www.netflix.com/title/80171742

Does Chris know you use netflix?

[dabom]

And I've watched it. Pretty cool.

[Chris]

Project Blue Beam

[ElNono]

But how about illegal aliens?

[Chris]

But how about illegal aliens?

Project Wall

[Winehole23]

The release of the footage may be strange, but the mechanism of its release is stranger still. To The Stars was founded by Tom DeLonge, who used to be the singer in the pop-punk band Blink-182. He is a long-time UFO obsessive: as a member of Blink-182 he wrote songs about them (like ‘Aliens Exist’, from the album Enema of the State) and spoke about them in interviews. In 2011 he launched a website called Strange Times, which hosted news and articles on UFOs, cryptozoology and the paranormal, and in 2015 he quit the band and founded To The Stars – the title of one of DeLonge’s solo albums and of a sci-fi novel by L. Ron Hubbard – as a media company. Around that time he gave an interview to Paper magazine in which he talked about his ‘sources from the government’ and claimed his phone had been tapped. He sounded crazy then, but less so now. When To The Stars Academy was launched in October 2017, DeLonge broadcast a livestream on YouTube in which he explained that shortly after the publication of his novel about UFOs, Sekret Machines, in 2016, he was contacted by ‘a man from a certain agency’ who told him: ‘You know things you shouldn’t know and I need to know who the hell you are.’ He was invited to meet with ‘generals’ and members of the intelligence community, and to visit Lockheed’s advanced development labs, known as the ‘Skunk Works’: he describes being taken through a machine gun guarded gate into a hallway lined with speakers emitting white noise, which led to a lab where engineers were working on what looked like spaceships. The official version of what happened next is that a number of the people he met, concerned at the lack of investigation into UFO sightings, agreed to join DeLonge’s company and to make To The Stars the exclusive venue for newly declassified material.https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n15/nick-richardson/diary

[TDMVPDPOY]

all this alien technology, if they can reverse engineer it, why arent they producing it for the army? fear the gooks stealing more shit??

[Winehole23]

Trump promised to declassify UFO stuff, maybe he's waiting until his second term.


The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East Coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes, but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.


“These things would be out there all day,” said Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years, and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect...."
https://boingboing.net/2019/05/26/new-york-times-navy-pilots-re.html

[Winehole23]

1394061782646362114

[spurraider21]

pretty wild that with all the tech they have they cant identify them

[ElNono]

saw this one on gab, looks legit, tbh...

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cGG3d237-Kw/XR41figVuVI/AAAAAAAAIGs/437bf-bFRbYQjtMUP3MCSUdC7Cv3ULjuwCKgBGAs/w914/destroy-all-humans-uhdpaper.com-4K-9.jpg

[DMC]

pretty wild that with all the tech they have they cant identify them

Sad how shitty the footage always seems to be.

[spurraider21]

Sad how shitty the footage always seems to be.
when captured by civilians yeah almost always. who knows what kind of footage the pentagon has that hasn't been declassified though

[TimDunkem]

They've been here for centuries. Nothing new. Good that everyone else is catching up though.

[SpursforSix]

They've been here for centuries. Nothing new. Good that everyone else is catching up though.

Word. And if you think logically about it, they've probably spliced their genes with humans. Who knows how far back.
We're pretty close to being able to cross breed whatever species we want. But we're a long way from mastering interstellar travel.
It goes to reason that a civilization that has conquered space travel has already succeeded in cross breeding.

[MultiTroll]

Bend over I'll show you a UFO.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over I'll show you a UFO.

"....recorded a bizarre and erratic UFO (http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/03/heres-a-video-of-a-navy-jet-encountering-a-ufo.html)— now called “the Tic Tac,”

[TimDunkem]

Word. And if you think logically about it, they've probably spliced their genes with humans. Who knows how far back.
We're pretty close to being able to cross breed whatever species we want. But we're a long way from mastering interstellar travel.
It goes to reason that a civilization that has conquered space travel has already succeeded in cross breeding.
Assuming the ET hypothesis is accurate. Perhaps interdimensional beings? I just prefer to say non-human higher intelligences at this point.

And, yeah, it's all fun speculation that's normally been in the realm of kooks and tin-foil hat Cosmored types, but if there is truly a non-zero chance that this is ET/ other non-human higher intelligence then there is no reason not to believe that any of that can't be possible.

[SpursforSix]

Assuming the ET hypothesis is accurate. Perhaps interdimensional beings? I just prefer to say non-human higher intelligences at this point.

And, yeah, it's all fun speculation that's normally been in the realm of kooks and tin-foil hat Cosmored types, but if there is truly a non-zero chance that this is ET/ other non-human higher intelligence then there is no reason not to believe that any of that can't be possible.

Agree. It's crazy that people have been called crazy for speculating the same.

[TimDunkem]

Agree. It's crazy that people have been called crazy for speculating the same.
There is literally more evidence for all of this than voter fraud in the 2020 election. Not crazy at all, imho. :lol

[MultiTroll]

Agree. It's crazy that people have been called crazy for speculating the same.
My unit is not speculation.

"phenomenal aerodynamics which represent nothing on the face of this earth by any country."

[Ghazi]

BREAKING NEWS: ISLAM HAS CONQUERED THE WORLD

[spurraider21]

Agree. It's crazy that people have been called crazy for speculating the same.
people who speculate arent usually dubbed crazy. its the ones who state it as fact and claim they were anally probed, etc, who arent taken as seriously

and there have been a lot of spoof/doctored photos. i tend to get interested in those events which have actual military responses

[SpursforSix]

people who speculate arent usually dubbed crazy. its the ones who state it as fact and claim they were anally probed, etc, who arent taken as seriously

and there have been a lot of spoof/doctored photos. i tend to get interested in those events which have actual military responses

yeah...all this is true. And then you have someone trying to make points but

https://i1.wp.com/decider.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/ancient-aliens.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&ssl=1

[TSA]

Sad how shitty the footage always seems to be.

Anything released from our military is purposely blurred to hide our optics capabilities.

[Ef-man]

Did some internets searches and it appears the UFOS are 1960s "Voyage to bottom of the sea" technology that some of you Boomers may recognize.

http://www.vttbots.com/Graphics/silent_2.jpg

[DMC]

Hide from the aliens?

[DMC]

people who speculate arent usually dubbed crazy. its the ones who state it as fact and claim they were anally probed, etc, who arent taken as seriously

and there have been a lot of spoof/doctored photos. i tend to get interested in those events which have actual military responses

Bend over... I'll show you anally probed

[Winehole23]

Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos)


Our team here at The War Zone has spent the last two years indirectly laying out a case for the hypothesis that many of the events involving supposed UFOs, or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), as they are now often called, over the last decade are actually the manifestation of foreign adversaries harnessing advances in lower-end unmanned aerial vehicle technology, and even simpler platforms, to gather intelligence of extreme fidelity on some of America's most sensitive warfighting capabilities.

[hater]

Good. Time for arrogant countries like USA and Isrqel to be put on their place. It will be funny when a nation 1,000 years more advanced takes them as their fucktoy :lmao

Wont be fun for me but oh well. Ill become an alien spy :lol they will need some help on the ground :lol

[hater]

Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos)

:lmao adversaries

They are 100 to 1,000 years more advanced.


Its like an ant calling the US military an adversary :lol

[spurraider21]

:lmao adversaries

They are 100 to 1,000 years more advanced.


Its like an ant calling the US military an adversary :lol
start at 0:20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czToM2nYcXo

[Winehole23]

I'm not sure I totally agree with the subscribed, the gamut of opinion from "They're real, and they're amazing" to "Nope, you're all still dopes" is amusing.


https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F 4ae744f5-1c98-4b3d-8ae4-f22e131de3ef_2486x880.png


It seems that at one point, the Pentagon and its allies saw UFOs as a distraction. Yet they eventually realized that by talking about physics-defying craft as a “national security issue” they could use it to get more military funding, which is what they have always wanted anyway.

The UFO story is not new, but something we’ve observed too many times in American politics: a self-serving national security establishment working with a credulous and lazy media to manipulate public opinion for its own ends.
https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/ufos-arent-real

[Winehole23]

Ron Watkins (aka @CodeMonkeyZ, former 8chan admin and Q-Anon founder) sees a new grift

1397605388883832841

[TSA]

Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos)

I’d bet on Skunkworks or Darpa pulling these “tests” on our own military before any foreign country. Doesn’t mean I’m ruling out actual extraterrestrials though.

[TimDunkem]

I’d bet on Skunkworks or Darpa pulling these “tests” on our own military before any foreign country..
These things have been flying around since before the Wright Brothers. Certainly the US has "advanced tech", but not the tech you're seeing in the cases worth discussing.

[DarrinS]

Meh, we're alone on this rock. Sorry.

[TimDunkem]

Meh, we're alone on this rock. Sorry.
Maybe you and your cocktail should leave the rock garden and go inside.

[Th'Pusher]

Maybe you and your cocktail should leave the rock garden and go inside.

You’re being kind to refer to that Miller lite as a cocktail.

[DarrinS]

Maybe you and your cocktail should leave the rock garden and go inside.


You’re being kind to refer to that Miller lite as a cocktail.


There are no UFOs. Carry on.

[TimDunkem]

There are no UFOs. Carry on.
This is so dumb. The one thing literally everyone agrees on is that there are UFOs. Unidentified craft flying around in US airspace is a fact. :lol Sorry this is happening to you. Sober up.

[DarrinS]

This is so dumb. The one thing literally everyone agrees on is that there are UFOs. :lol Sorry this is happening to you. Sober up.


Everyone agrees on? I don't think so. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Everyone agrees on? I don't think so. :lol
Everyone except the forum drunk on Spurstalk.

UFOs are real. You can hypothesize on what they are. That's fine, but there are unidentified craft in US - and others' - airspace. Again, sorry this is happening to you. Join us in the 21st century. We have a mystery and all theories are welcome, but hand-waving away facts is not helpful. Sober up, bro.

[DarrinS]

Everyone except the forum drunk on Spurstalk.

UFOs are real. You can hypothesize on what they are. That's fine, but there are unidentified craft in US - and others' - airspace. Again, sorry this is happening to you. Join us in the 21st century. We have a mystery and all theories are welcome, but hand-waving away facts is not helpful. Sober up, bro.


No apologies necessary. Nothing is happening to me, or you.

If you want to "believe", its a free country.

[TimDunkem]

No apologies necessary. Nothing is happening to me, or you.

If you want to "believe", its a free country.
What I want to believe is irrelevant. Facts are facts: Unidentified craft are flying through US airspace with impunity and have been for decades. The US and others are trying to figure out what they are. Sorry the implications shatter your fragile worldview, force you to hand wave, and sink further into the bottle.

[DarrinS]

What I want to believe is irrelevant. Facts are facts: Unidentified craft are flying through US airspace with impunity and have been for decades. The US and others are trying to figure out what they are. Sorry the implications shatter your fragile worldview, force you to hand wave, and sink further into the bottle.

I guess something is happening to you. I'm sorry.

[TimDunkem]

I guess something is happening to you. I'm sorry.

Nope. Mysteries are fun. Whether it's us, a foreign adversary, or something else - any one of those would be the top headline. None of those answers bother me though. Maybe you, but not me.

Also remember when you said we hit herd immunity in April 2020? :lol

[DarrinS]

Also remember when you said we hit herd immunity in April 2020? :lol

No

[TimDunkem]

The most intelligent people know aliens are real just using probability. We are ants to aliens. They don't need to show us anything. We are insignificant to aliens. :lol

The real question is if they've ever been here. Maybe. Maybe not. But, if there is a non-zero chance, it's worth investigating.

Some people choose to bury their head in their pint glass and talk about global pandemics being over a month in.

[DarrinS]

The most intelligent people know aliens are real just using probability. We are ants to aliens. They don't need to show us anything. We are insignificant to aliens. :lol

Ok. I like where you're going with this. Probability, nearest inhabitable planet, light speed.

[DarrinS]

The real question is if they've ever been here. Maybe. Maybe not. But, if there is a non-zero chance, it's worth investigating.

Some people choose to bury their head in their pint glass and talk about global pandemics being over a month in.


Post a quote.

[ElNono]

Ron Watkins (aka @CodeMonkeyZ, former 8chan admin and Q-Anon founder) sees a new grift

1397605388883832841

If it keeps them entertained and away from trying to undermine and destroy democracy, more power to them, tbh

[DarrinS]

If it keeps them entertained and away from trying to undermine and destroy democracy, more power to them, tbh

We're totally trying to undermine and destroy democracy.

[TimDunkem]

It takes guts to say that for fear of ridicule. But its the correct assumption.
Fortunately people who actually take the time to dig into the stories, data, and put in the countless FOIA requests have forced the government to admit that there is something there. It's no longer a topic limited to country bumpkins and tin-foil hat types. Time to request more data, listen to more credible witnesses, and keep investigating. No matter what the answer is.

Some people prefer getting drunk and posting snarky comments on forums. Shit like that is why some are still stuck on basic facts like whether there are actually unidentified objects. Spoiler: There are.

[TimDunkem]

Ok. I like where you're going with this. Probability, nearest inhabitable planet, light speed.
They don't necessarily need to be biological, or even ET. Could be AI controlled drones.

Also, didn't Miguel Alcubierre essentially prove you don't need FTL travel if you can warp space time? The only problem is the energy requirements.

[DarrinS]

They don't necessarily need to be biological, or even ET. Could be AI controlled drones.

Also, didn't Michael Alcubierre essentially prove you don't need FTL travel if you can warp space time? The only problem is the energy requirements.

Where's my quote saying pandemic was over in April 2020?

[TimDunkem]

Where's my quote saying pandemic was over in April 2020?
Not going to bother. Stop pretending you weren't called out on this before.

[DarrinS]

Not going to bother. Stop pretending you weren't called out on this before.

That's what I thought. Fuck off.

[TimDunkem]

That's what I thought. Fuck off.
Herd immunity April 2020. :lol

[ElNono]

I mean, statistically speaking, there are better odds that there's alien life than that the last election was fraudulent...

That said, other than the novelty factor, I don't think confirmation would affect me much.

Religious people, on the other hand, would need to get their mental gymnastics in full swing again.

[ElNono]

We're totally trying to undermine and destroy democracy.

Are you a Qtard too?

[DarrinS]

Herd immunity April 2020. :lol

Nope. You are lying.

[Winehole23]

We're totally trying to undermine and destroy democracy.Yep.

59 evidence-free election challenges, lobbying governors, election officials and state legislatures to overturn the popular vote, coaxing and tending a putsch on Jan. 6th, for starters.

Stripping power from election officials who didn't play ball with Trump or who are Democrats, passing laws designed to suppress voting in dozens of states while telling credulous GOP voters that the election was stolen from them. Racial and partisan gerrymanders are forthcoming later this year.

The GOP is trying to institutionalize minority rule. That's not democracy.

[DarrinS]

Are you a Qtard too?

Nope.

[ElNono]

Nope.

Then why you say 'we'?

[DarrinS]

I mean, statistically speaking, there are better odds that there's alien life than that the last election was fraudulent...

That said, other than the novelty factor, I don't think confirmation would affect me much.

Religious people, on the other hand, would need to get their mental gymnastics in full swing again.


I think there's alien life. I just don't believe we're being visited by it.

[TimDunkem]

I mean, statistically speaking, there are better odds that there's alien life than that the last election was fraudulent...

That said, other than the novelty factor, I don't think confirmation would affect me much.

Religious people, on the other hand, would need to get their mental gymnastics in full swing again.

Religion is a huge reason why this topic moves at a snails pace. The implications really shake up some people, and others just straight up believe these objects are demons. There are people in the Pentagon right now who believe that.

[Winehole23]

Nope. You are lying."running out of fuel "

TD's timing is slightly wrong, you called this for NYC in July.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286000&page=33&p=10202302&viewfull=1#post10202302

[TimDunkem]

I think there's alien life. I just don't believe we're being visited by it.

And that's okay.

But UFOs are real, Mr.Herd Immunity.

[DarrinS]

Then why you say 'we'?

You used "them", so

[TimDunkem]

"running out of fuel "

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286000&page=33&p=10202302&viewfull=1#post10202302

Boom.

[DarrinS]

And that's okay.

But UFOs are real, Mr.Herd Immunity.

We seem to be able to video every random event, but not UFO or Bigfoot.

[DarrinS]

"running out of fuel "

TD's timing is slightly wrong, you called this for NYC in July.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286000&page=33&p=10202302&viewfull=1#post10202302


Not April.

[ElNono]

I think there's alien life. I just don't believe we're being visited by it.

I mean, odds are pretty low, but certainly non-zero. I'll would still give it superior odds than proving the existence of god.

[TimDunkem]

We seem to be able to video every random event, but not UFO or Bigfoot.

Some of these objects are inherently hard to image. Ryan Graves couldn't actually see the Gimbal object, but it appeared on the gun camera and on radar while they could physically see the formation of spheres in cubes. There was a physical object there rotating against the high winds before it flew away.

[ElNono]

You used "them", so

Them in reference to the tweets linked, as in the two Qtards going at it.

[TimDunkem]

Not April.

Not much better. :lol

[DarrinS]

Them in reference to the tweets linked, as in the two Qtards going at it.

My bad

[TimDunkem]

https://twitter.com/JeremyCorbell/status/1397991805405208590