**Official 2018 NFL Draft Thread**

[spurraider21]

For once, my dude Holden won't be active in this one right away :depressed

[Green Man]

It feels like Baker Mayfield to Cleveland is destiny. Who cares if it’s logical or not, it has to happen.

[Robz4000]

:lol if Mayfield ends up in Cleveland that franchise is as good as finished

[spurraider21]

:lol if Mayfield ends up in Cleveland that franchise is as good as finished
looks like we're gonna have a coin toss to decide the #9 and 10 picks

also :lol big 12 quarterbacks

[spurraider21]

at this super early stage, subject to change (since i dont really pay attention to college players until NFL draft season, when i go back and watch games), Raquon Smith from Georgia looks like the best case scenario pick for oakland

[Robz4000]

looks like we're gonna have a coin toss to decide the #9 and 10 picks

also :lol big 12 quarterbacks

God bless

[benefactor]

Basically useless for me this year:lol

[spurraider21]

Basically useless for me this year:lol
you can forgive the Watson pick, but :lol giving up a 2nd rounder to dump assweiler

[Avante]

What's always funny about the draft is how soon the draft picks are rated. This team gets a B, that one a C, while this one an A. What? It takes a few seasons to see how any draft really pans out. RGIII proved this, as did Ryan Leaf, Dan Wilkerson, Blair Thomas, Archie Griffin and on and on and on and...........

[spurraider21]

Minkah Fitzpatrick is becoming one of my favorite players in this draft, but it's looking nearly impossible he'd make it to #9 or 10. the only hope is if he bombs the 40 yard dash or somethin

[Raven]

What's always funny about the draft is how soon the draft picks are rated. This team gets a B, that one a C, while this one an A. What? It takes a few seasons to see how any draft really pans out. RGIII proved this, as did Ryan Leaf, Dan Wilkerson, Blair Thomas, Archie Griffin and on and on and on and...........

you don't understand the term "prove". There's nothing to "prove" in this context, all people do is choose the best course of action, because this is not science. You find the best way to act and live with the mistakes. Your course of action is like betting on games that have already happen. Nobody is paying for that crap. Most people can be right about 90% of the time about a trade, from the get go. That's imo better than to wait a few years and be captain obvious.

[spurraider21]

What's always funny about the draft is how soon the draft picks are rated. This team gets a B, that one a C, while this one an A. What? It takes a few seasons to see how any draft really pans out. RGIII proved this, as did Ryan Leaf, Dan Wilkerson, Blair Thomas, Archie Griffin and on and on and on and...........
if somebody playing blackjack hits on a 20, i'd give him an F grade. even if the next card turns out to be an ace. there are ways to give out grades and make evaluations before the results are in. you take into consideration whether the team is adequately addressing positions of need, or how high that player is drafted compared to evaluations across the league. so if everybody's got player A at a 5th round grade and you take him in the 2nd round, its a bad move. even if he turns out to be good, you would have been able to get the same guy in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th round instead while selecting a better player alongside him

it would be really stupid to pay $100 for a single lottery ticket. but it might turn out to be a winner....

[benefactor]

you can forgive the Watson pick, but :lol giving up a 2nd rounder to dump assweiler
It will be a wash if they use the cap space to sign a decent player tbh

[Avante]

you don't understand the term "prove". There's nothing to "prove" in this context, all people do is choose the best course of action, because this is not science. You find the best way to act and live with the mistakes. Your course of action is like betting on games that have already happen. Nobody is paying for that crap. Most people can be right about 90% of the time about a trade, from the get go. That's imo better than to wait a few years and be captain obvious.

We will hear/read about how the Packers (example) have to get an A for their picks, while the Lions (example) get a D. Now this is before any of those picks play a down in the NFL, so....????

It will take a few seasons before we really know how most these guys are as a pro. So, to see....Packers get an A....huh????

[Avante]

if somebody playing blackjack hits on a 20, i'd give him an F grade. even if the next card turns out to be an ace. there are ways to give out grades and make evaluations before the results are in. you take into consideration whether the team is adequately addressing positions of need, or how high that player is drafted compared to evaluations across the league. so if everybody's got player A at a 5th round grade and you take him in the 2nd round, its a bad move. even if he turns out to be good, you would have been able to get the same guy in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th round instead while selecting a better player alongside him

it would be really stupid to pay $100 for a single lottery ticket. but it might turn out to be a winner....

If your picks don't better the team like you expected them to do it is a bad draft. And, we won't know that for some time...usually. That really is all that actually matters.

[Holden_Caulfield]

We need a #1 WR

[HarlemHeat37]

Raiders should draft a QB, tbh..

[spurraider21]

Raiders should draft a QB, tbh..
:lmao paxton lynch

i would say broncos should take a QB but elway's evaluations have been awful at that position (except for the obvious choice of bringing in one of the GOATS as a free agent), so they should wait until elway is inevitably fired before wasting a first round pick on one

[Avante]

Baker Mayfield can thank Drew Brees and Russell Wilson.

[spurraider21]

We need a #1 WR
welcome to the thread man

[Trill Clinton]

vita vea is my pick at 19 right now

P2MBuoepc1I

[spurraider21]

Vea looks really good, i doubt he falls to 19 tbh

[Pelicans78]

Saints need a WR, edge rusher, DT, LB, TE, CB, OL depth, and future QB. Not in any particular order. Hopefully Jeff Ireland can repeat his magic.

[spurraider21]

the raiders have a very top-heavy roster and need a lot of help tbh... last season was the result of us winning every single close game with game winning drives :lol. with carr having a down year our flaws were exposed

we need help at DT, ILB, OLB, CB, WR (crabtree expected to be let go), RB (lynch probably not coming back, unfortunately), and a LT for the future

Roquan Smith still looks like the best expected pick (unless somehow minkah fitzpatrick falls). tremaine edmunds is getting a shitload of hype lately but i haven't looked at him much

[DeadlyDynasty]

Vita Vea will be the Bills 22nd pick, sorry guys

[Trill Clinton]

Vita Vea will be the Bills 22nd pick, sorry guys

fucc that lol

[Trill Clinton]

so who is going to reach and draft josh allen? he is this years "he looks the part" qb.

[DeadlyDynasty]

so who is going to reach and draft josh allen? he is this years "he looks the part" qb.
Even after a year of hearing about him and the upcoming QB class, I can honestly say I know nothing about him. Every other QB I have an opinion on, but I just draw a blank with this cat. Don't think I've ever seen him play, tbh. Are they projecting him as first rd?

[Pelicans78]

I think Josh Allen lands in Cleveland with the 4th pick.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bills Center Eric Wood retired...he was one of my favorite Bills, but was declining due to injuries in recent years. Glad he made the playoffs before dipping out. OT but I played craps with him in Niagara Casino several years ago and he got to 5 on his fire bet. Good dude, now we need to draft a replacement

[spurraider21]

i dont like how the giants have bee talking up Eli Manning... i want them to take a QB at #2 to let the other guys fall. more QB's taken in the top 10, the better

[leemajors]

DeadlyDynasty

https://deadspin.com/bills-center-eric-wood-diagnosed-with-career-ending-nec-1822454428

[spurraider21]

Combine begins February 27

[Avante]

Never seen anything as stupid as the combine. Way too much is put into this silliness.

Does a guy love the game? How wil he deal with injury? Coachable? Intense about winning? Will sudden $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ change him?

Those are the things that really matter. We know these guys can play football.

[spurraider21]

the combine is useful. but some people put way too much stock into the numbers

[Avante]

the combine is useful. but some people put way too much stock into the numbers

Guy can run a 4.4 40, can jump a mile, can knock out some weights, ok.........what does that have to do with can he play football?

You ask any RB about what he was thinking on that run, he will tell you.....I just react, no time to think, just instincts. Way too much is put into a planned situation at the combine, that isn't football.

[spurraider21]

Guy can run a 4.4 40, can jump a mile, can knock out some weights, ok.........what does that have to do with can he play football?

You ask any RB about what he was thinking on that run, he will tell you.....I just react, no time to think, just instincts. Way too much is put into a planned situation at the combine, that isn't football.
ok

the combine is useful. but there are people who put way too much stock into the numbers

[Avante]

ok

the combine is useful. but there are people who put way too much stock into the numbers

Dude, why this overwelming need to be a jerk?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

i dont like how the giants have bee talking up Eli Manning... i want them to take a QB at #2 to let the other guys fall. more QB's taken in the top 10, the better
agree, don't want the patsies to get a good one, now they're not going to draft Lamar Jackson of course but if a decent white one falls...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Never seen anything as stupid as the combine. Way too much is put into this silliness.

Does a guy love the game? How wil he deal with injury? Coachable? Intense about winning? Will sudden $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ change him?

Those are the things that really matter. We know these guys can play football.
that's why the 2011 lockout needed to happen, paying rookies who haven't proven a damn thing exorbitant amounts (more than regular veterans) was stupid stupid stupid.

[spurraider21]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-browns-pull-off-andrew-luck-trade-colts-own-three-top-five-picks/

:lol wild article, speculates the possibility of andrew luck being traded to cleveland, giving the colts 3 picks in the top 5

its not a rumor at all, just a fun hypothetical

[spurraider21]

barkley is the best RB prospect since at least Reggie Bush, maybe Ricky Williams

[Avante]

Size with speed, totally a black thang.

230 pounders running 4.4 40's, wow~~~

Marcus Dupree, Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, could all run the 100yards in 9.5, all around 230. This Barkley kid another big fast RB.

The fastest RB to ever have a 1000 yard NFL season was Texas A&M/Colts Curtis Dickey, he was running the 100m in 10.10 back in the 80's, and was world ranked***. He was a 220 pounder, with massive thighs.

A good 40 for a RB is anything sub 4.60.

*** only NFL RB to be who was world ranked at 100m in history. Olympic 400m bronze medalist Ollie Matson was World ranked in the esrly 50's.

[Raven]

Size with speed, totally a black thang.

230 pounders running 4.4 40's, wow~~~

Marcus Dupree, Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, could all run the 100yards in 9.5, all around 230. This Barkley kid another big fast RB.

The fastest RB to ever have a 1000 yard NFL season was Texas A&M/Colts Curtis Dickey, he was running the 100m in 10.10 back in the 80's, and was world ranked***. He was a 220 pounder, with massive thighs.

A good 40 for a RB is anything sub 4.60.

*** only NFL RB to be who was world ranked at 100m in history. Olympic 400m bronze medalist Ollie Matson was World ranked in the esrly 50's.

i can't even...

[Avante]

i can't even...

Why not just pick up on a few things? Why this....oh no no don't tell me things I didn't know........?

When somebody widdens my horizons in anything it's......thank you.

[sickdsm]

Never seen anything as stupid as the combine. Way too much is put into this silliness.

Does a guy love the game? How wil he deal with injury? Coachable? Intense about winning? Will sudden $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ change him?

Those are the things that really matter. We know these guys can play football.


Guy can run a 4.4 40, can jump a mile, can knock out some weights, ok.........what does that have to do with can he play football?

You ask any RB about what he was thinking on that run, he will tell you.....I just react, no time to think, just instincts. Way too much is put into a planned situation at the combine, that isn't football.


Size with speed, totally a black thang.

230 pounders running 4.4 40's, wow~~~

Marcus Dupree, Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, could all run the 100yards in 9.5, all around 230. This Barkley kid another big fast RB.

The fastest RB to ever have a 1000 yard NFL season was Texas A&M/Colts Curtis Dickey, he was running the 100m in 10.10 back in the 80's, and was world ranked***. He was a 220 pounder, with massive thighs.

A good 40 for a RB is anything sub 4.60.

*** only NFL RB to be who was world ranked at 100m in history. Olympic 400m bronze medalist Ollie Matson was World ranked in the esrly 50's.

Avante:. Combine is stupid. Who cares about their time in the 40?

Also Avante:. This cat can run a 4.4 and the number one really needs to look at is a 4.6 for a RB.

[Avante]

Avante:. Combine is stupid. Who cares about their time in the 40?

Also Avante:. This cat can run a 4.4 and the number one really needs to look at is a 4.6 for a RB.

I totally agree, why they even bother with it....???

But.....since we do have it if a team is debating a couple players, with one running a 4.43 and the other a 4.63, chances are.,.......................

Actually a 40 is too long, we should time the 20.

[spurraider21]

raiders lost the flip, so SF will be picking #9, and Oakland will be picking #10

its looking like a real possibility that 4 qb's will be taken in the top 10 (darnold, rosen, allen, mayfield). would be great if that's the case, leaving more talented position players to fall to #10.

its basically a given that barkley, chubb, fitzpatrick, and nelson will be top 10 picks. if the raiders land Roquan Smith they should be pleased... with fallback options like Vea, Edmunds, or Ward

[sickdsm]

I totally agree, why they even bother with it....???

But.....since we do have it if a team is debating a couple players, with one running a 4.43 and the other a 4.63, chances are.,.......................

Actually a 40 is too long, we should time the 20.

We should time how long it takes for idiotic shit to come out of mouth.

[Avante]

We should time how long it takes for idiotic shit to come out of mouth.

If I'm in charge of who becomes a Niner.

I want to know if the guy loves football, can he actually talk the sport? If I say,....what about Jerry Rice, adf he tells me....."the very best, and he ran a slower 40 than I did, a small school guy"....cool~~~ That love for the game VERY important.

Is the guy a cool dude, or some street thug? I will find that out. I want to know his history. I also want guys who came from a stable home. yep, a mom and dad.

Getting back to the 40. Guys will never be faster than they are their rookie season, then every season a little slower. So if a cat starts out at 4.40. he's going to be a 4.60 in 4/5 season, if the cat is already at 4.60............hmmm?

I put a lot into overall team speed.

[Darth_Pelican]

McShay has the Saints taking Lamar Jackson in his latest mock draft. Vomit. He’s no Deshaun Watson.

[spurraider21]

McShay has the Saints taking Lamar Jackson in his latest mock draft. Vomit. He’s no Deshaun Watson.
lol he has rosen falling to 15.

Roquan Smith to Oakland is becoming something of a consensus, which I'm down for.

[spurraider21]

about a month away. now that free agency has largely died down... this is the only thing to look forward to. here's my thoughts on the top 10

1- cleveland should take darnold. he's easily the most well rounded prospect of this draft. basically above average in everything... arm strength, accuracy, athleticism, toughness. had turnover issues in college. i'm more worried about how easily he fumbles than the interceptions.

2 - giants should be taking a qb, but every indication says they are looking in another direction, which makes no freakiin sense. if thats the case, they should trade back with arizona or buffalo. makes no sense to stay at #2 and pick Chubb right after trading JPP . rosen should be the 2nd qb off the board. he's basically a bigger goff/ryan with a better arm. kind of a worse carson palmer. but he's the best passer

3 - jets are taking a qb, and its between baker mayfield and josh allen. allen's stock predictably has gone through the roof during the scouting period because he's athletically very impressive. you also like a big, strong-armed qb in a bad weather situation. they probably go josh allen here. allen probably needs time to develop, and the jets have mccown/bridgewater who can hold the fort for some time. mccown played decent last year. good veteran to learn from.

4 - cleveland happily takes saquon barkley here. take the pressure off darnold, and add a huge running threat to a team with corey coleman, josh gordon, and jarvis landry. invest in your young qb. darnold is going to have to start right away, regardless of hue jackson's supposed confidence in tyrod

5 - broncos need a qb... keenum is not a long term answer. they really wanted allen (elway sees himself in josh allen, same reason he liked osweiler and paxton lynch). they reluctantly take mayfield.

6 - colts take quenton nelson. they could have really used barkley, but trading back 3 spots for all those picks made too much sense. the colts haven't had a good run game in a while, and luck has never had pass protection, and coming off an injury

7 - tampa would have taken Chubb here, but just traded for JPP. their front 7 is actually pretty talented right now, but their secondary needs help. they take minkah fitzpatrick

8 - bears needed to get trubisky help this offseason, and they landed allen robinson so be his #1 and taylor gabriel as a complementary piece. also signed trey burton who looks like a legit starting TE. so while many had them taking calvin ridley, they no longer have to reach for a WR. they play a 3-4 defense, which doesn't really have a natural spot for bradley chubb, who is the best player on the board here. denzel ward would have made sense, but they brought back amukamara to start and paid a lot of money to keep kyle fuller. so they go linebacker. while i think roquan smith is the best linebacker in the draft, tremaine edmunds has been getting the hype since he's got a ton of physical upside. the bears liken him to urlacher, a hulking linebacker with speed to cover

9 - niners at nine, and they have bradley chubb fall into their laps. they were 26th in sacks last year. BPA matches a need.

10 - raiders have a tough choice between roquan smith and denzel ward. both players fit pressing needs. raiders linebacker core is thin as it is, and we still don't know if bowman is going to come back and hold the fort in the middle for another year. even if he does he's not a long term answer, and smith can play outside for now and shift to middle when bowman leaves. at the same time, the raiders secondary is coming off another dreadful year, AND they have lost their top 3 corners (sean smith - prison, david amerson - cut, tj carrie - signed with cleveland). while i personally LOVE roquan smith, and am well aware we just spent a first round pick at corner last year in gareon conley, i think their hand is forced and they take denzel ward.


notably missing from the picks here is derwin james, who is projected by most to go in the top 10... i just couldn't find a spot for him.

[RGMCSE]

Here's the Mock from Jaguars.com

1.Cleveland | Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California
2.NY Giants | Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
3.NY Jets | Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4.Cleveland | Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
5.Denver | Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
6.Indianapolis | Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
7.Tampa Bay | Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
8.Chicago | Tremaine Edmunds, ILB, Virginia Tech
9.San Francisco | Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
10.Oakland | Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
11.Miami | Derwin James, SS, Florida State
12.Buffalo | Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
13.Washington | Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14.Green Bay | Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
15.Arizona | Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
16.Baltimore | Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
17.LA Chargers | Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
18.Seattle | Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida
19.Dallas | D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland
20.Detroit | Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
21.Cincinatti | Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
22.Buffalo | Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
23.LA Rams | Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
24.Carolina | Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
25.Tennessee | Arden Key, DE, Louisiana State
26.Atlanta | Isaiah Wynn, OT, Georgia
27.New Orleans | Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
28.Pittsburgh | Derrius Guice, RB, Louisiana State
29.Jacksonville | Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso
30.Minnesota | Connor Williams, OT, Texas
31.New England | Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College
32.Philadelphia | Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado

[DeadlyDynasty]

If Trubisky can make strides like Goff did the Bears should have a bright future

[Trill Clinton]

my top qbs

1.baker mayfield
2.sam darnold
3.josh rosen
4.lamar jackson


not impressed with the other qb's and think all 4 should be taken in the 1st round. josh allen has bust written all over him. i hope the giants take him.

[Clipper Nation]

Josh Allen is literally JaMarcus 2.0. Same people letting shit slide because of his measurables.

[Avante]

I don't like any of the QB's coming out.

Darnold...ah shucks
Rosen....going to be hurt and too whiney.
Mayfield....is going to fuck up, wait and see. A problem without $$$$$$$$, now with $$$$$$$$$$....ouch~~~
Jackson....I think he's too dumb.
Allen....he did what at Wyoming, not much. Less than a 60% comp %, not good.

Nobody there in my opinion.

Love Barkley, perfect blend of size, speed, quicks. Penn State has had a gang of succcessful NFL RBs.

[spurraider21]

Jackson....I think he's too dumb. Trill Clinton

thoughts?

[Avante]

Trill Clinton (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20413)

thoughts?

You know my stance on the black athlete. If I were in charge that's all I'd have on my team. Talk about team speed.

Only a fool would think my Jackson comment had anything to do with race, trust me, it didn't. I'd take Warren Moon over 90% of all QB's who ever played the game.

I've seen Jackson talk, this is no leader of grown men.

[Trill Clinton]

Trill Clinton

thoughts?

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If you notice no one ever has anything if substance to say when critiquing Lamar.

[Avante]

I keep waiting for one of these kids to......

I want this team to succeed so pay me what ya think is right for my first contract, we'll talk serious $$$$$ if I deserve that talk.

I bet it doesn't happen.

This is always funny.....some vet talking about...I need to provide for my family.....while already making more $$$$$ than his entire family tree combined ever made. How do ya make ends meet making just a mill a year?

[spurraider21]

a little over 3 weeks away

[Avante]

What I hate to see is these draft ratings right after the draft. How they can do that before we see how those guys pan out...???

And another thing I hate is...he went to a small school. The HOF is full of small school players. How about Jerry Rice, Walter Peyton?

[spurraider21]

Draft next Thursday...

who do you want your team to draft?

I want the Raiders to go DB or LB... Minkah Fitzpatrick, Roquan Smith, Denzel Ward, Tremaine Edmunds would probably be my big board. CB is arguably a more pressing need than LB, which could prompt them to take Ward, but I think Roquan is more of a sure thing to be a stud. I do have Minkah above him, because he's a pretty rare talent. He can play just about anywhere, and played most of last season as a Nickel CB/LB hybrid. You just plug him in somewhere and he'll make plays.

I also really like Maurice Hurst... we haven't really had a 3-tech since Tommy Kelly or Richard Seymour. If we trade back out of 10, or trade up from our 2nd round pick, he'd be a nice target.

[Raven]

i hope we draft a tackle and 3 LB/DEs . No receivers or qbs please.

[spurraider21]

i hope we draft a tackle and 3 LB/DEs . No receivers or qbs please.
i cant imagine the patriots not taking a qb tbh

[benefactor]

Best TE available pls

[Raven]

i cant imagine the patriots not taking a qb tbh

seems like a big waste to me.. we should be in win now mode.

[Holden_Caulfield]

please no qbs in the first 4 rounds. we have usc legend cody kessler already

[Avante]

delete

[UNT Eagles 2016]

seems like a big waste to me.. we should be in win now mode.
but you don't want to be bad for 10 years after brady retires (soon)... need to trade big time draft capital and get Allen, Rosen or Darnold. Which the Pats very well can. Rudolph is just another Hoyer

[monosylab1k]

Julio Jones just unfollowed everyone related to the Falcons on his social media. Probably means he’s going drama queen for a new contract, but maybe a pre-draft trade is coming?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Julio Jones just unfollowed everyone related to the Falcons on his social media. Probably means he’s going drama queen for a new contract, but maybe a pre-draft trade is coming?

Patriots would be VERY smart to go all in to trade draft capital to get Allen or Darnold.

[Silver&Black]

Hoping the Bucs go Defense with the 7th pick. Derwin James from FSU or Minkah Fitzpatrick from Alabama. Leaning more toward Fitzpatrick, tbh.Or drafting a kicker again :pctoss

[spurraider21]

Hoping the Bucs go Defense with the 7th pick. Derwin James from FSU or Minkah Fitzpatrick from Alabama. Leaning more toward Fitzpatrick, tbh.Or drafting a kicker again :pctoss
i hope they take derwin. i want minkah to fall to oakland.

james is purely a safety, which the raiders dont really need. minkah has played all over... and spent most of last year playing a LB/Slot corner hybrid. the raiders can find a place for him, but not so much for james. if minkah is gone they'll just go with roquan smith or denzel ward imho

[UNT Eagles 2016]

i hope they take derwin. i want minkah to fall to oakland.

james is purely a safety, which the raiders dont really need. minkah has played all over... and spent most of last year playing a LB/Slot corner hybrid. the raiders can find a place for him, but not so much for james. if minkah is gone they'll just go with roquan smith or denzel ward imho
Hoping D.James falls to the Cowboys at 19

[spurraider21]

that's not happening :lol

[spurraider21]

it does sound like maurice hurst is going to fall to day 2. he's gonna be a STEAL

[Avante]

If the Browns screw this up they deserve to go 0-16.

Darnold and Chubb (pass rusher), is what a smart team would do.

Lamar Jackson cannot go in the first two rounds, but he will.

Baker Mayfield with $$$$$$$$$$$, I see trouble.

Only way Barkley goes high is if that team is set everywhere else. But that won't be the case.

[Bill_Brasky]

The God, Baker Football, will go #1. The Browns will finally get it right.

[Trill Clinton]

my top qbs

1.baker mayfield
2.sam darnold
3.josh rosen
4.lamar jackson


not impressed with the other qb's and think all 4 should be taken in the 1st round. josh allen has bust written all over him. i hope the giants take him.

Mayfield going number 1 is picking up steam and rightfully so.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

The biggest day of the NFL season is here.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Mayfield going number 1 is picking up steam and rightfully so.

5'11" mobile white quarterback, with off the field party issues and affluenza... going early to the Browns to be their franchise savior..... hmmmmmmmmmm, when have we seen this before?

[Robz4000]

:lmao the Browns never learn

[benefactor]

:lmao the Browns never learn
:lol going from Manziel to a rich man's Manziel

[Trill Clinton]

Comparing Mayfield to manziel is so lazy smh. I forgot ST is terrible when it comes to evaluating QBs. Remember I said Watson was special when y'all were laughing at him too:wakeup

His NFL comparison is Russell Wilson imo

[spurraider21]

i dont really buy the manziel/mayfied comparisons at this point...

on the field, their comparisons really end at white and short. mayfield has a stronger arm, is significantly more accurate, and his game isn't reliant on improvisation and launching jump balls to mike evans.

off the field, mayfied does have some concerns regarding to repsecting authority, but he isn't a party animal like manziel was. manziel's downfall ended up being not prioritizing football and chronic substance abuse. those aren't concerns with baker.

my main issue with mayfield is that we've been conditioned to be weary of big 12 quarterbacks who have basically all been bad in recent years, save sam bradford, who is fine, yet always injured.

[spurraider21]

on the field... he looks similar to wilson, in that he's short but stocky/thick. but he's not nearly the scrambler wilson is. i think comparison wise he's closer to a small tony romo... or a smaller and much less refined andrew luck.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol going from Manziel to a rich man's Manziel
:lol Leaf 3.0

[Clipper Nation]

Comparing Mayfield to manziel is so lazy smh. I forgot ST is terrible when it comes to evaluating QBs. Remember I said Watson was special when y'all were laughing at him too:wakeup

His NFL comparison is Russell Wilson imo
So he's a game manager who's not going to have the stacked team that Struggle has always had to carry him? Yikes.

[spurraider21]

josh allen is the guy i'd be most afraid of taking, despite having the greatest upside in a qb in a long time. i'd go Darnold - Mayfield - Rosen - Allen among the top 4

[Bill_Brasky]

Comparing Mayfield to manziel is so lazy smh. I forgot ST is terrible when it comes to evaluating QBs. Remember I said Watson was special when y'all were laughing at him too:wakeup

His NFL comparison is Russell Wilson imo

I have no idea how Watson wasn't #1. It felt good to be exonerated on det one with Watson just completely being a stud.

I'm high on Mayfield too. Something about the guy is just different.

[Holden_Caulfield]

it feels fucking nice to be drafting at the end of the 1st.

[Darth_Pelican]

Josh Allen is a racist.

[spurraider21]

Josh Allen is a racist.
he said dumb shit on the internet while in high school

people digging shit up the day before the draft just like the laremy tunsil video a couple years ago.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Please god give us Darnold or Rosen

[spurraider21]

Please god give us Darnold or Rosen
all the rumors are indicating rosen is going to be the last of the 4 to be taken... comes down to who's going to trade up. Arizona or Buffalo? Or nobody moves and he falls to Buffalo at 12

[DeadlyDynasty]

all the rumors are indicating rosen is going to be the last of the 4 to be taken... comes down to who's going to trade up. Arizona or Buffalo? Or nobody moves and he falls to Buffalo at 12

If he falls to 12 (like Kiper predicts), we'll get our franchise QB w/o giving up our smorgasbord of early picks...we'd likely have one down year (2018) then be set for a decade

[spurraider21]

If he falls to 12 (like Kiper predicts), we'll get our franchise QB w/o giving up our smorgasbord of early picks...we'd likely have one down year (2018) then be set for a decade
same thing played out when we just sat and waited and took derek carr in the 2nd round

[spurraider21]

talk that the raiders could trade up to take Chubb... i mean i like Chubb a lot, but I worry how steep the cost would be.

and at #10 they're talking about McGlinchey. i wouldn't take him unless both Minkah and Roquan are off the board.

[Trill Clinton]

Josh Allen is a racist.

Yup. It's going to be interesting to see how his teammates accept him in the locker room.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Denver will draft him if he falls to 5 tbh...I'd bet my life on it...as long as they don't take Rosen I'm happy

[spurraider21]

Denver will draft him if he falls to 5 tbh...I'd bet my life on it...as long as they don't take Rosen I'm happy
yeah... elways has been looking for the tall, athletic qb that he can see himself in. it's why he took brock and why he took lynch. josh allen fits the same bill

[spurraider21]

Vic Tafur is one of the more plugged in raiders insiders... he's basically been saying the raiders 1st round pick has boiled down to 3 scenarios

1) If Bradley Chubb falls to 6, they will try to trade up for him. They aren't going to try to jump farther than that.

2) If that doesn't happen and they stay at #10, they will take Roquan Smith if availalbe.

3) If Roquan is not available at 10, they will take Matt McGlinchey.

if thats the case, i'm really hoping chubb gets taken top 4 and roquan is available at 10. bothers me that they're not considering fitzpatrick, but i'd love roquan.

[phxspurfan]

Yup. It's going to be interesting to see how his teammates accept him in the locker room.

http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8nmjxbfEy1qzf9tbo1_250.gif

[Holden_Caulfield]

please denver make that trade for the lolz

[spurraider21]

i think they should take darnold... hype train has been on baker leading up to this

[phxspurfan]

lol browns

[Robz4000]

:lmao they actually did it

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao BROWNS :lmao

[phxspurfan]

they should have taken barkley then allen

[spurraider21]

lets see if the giants trade back or if gettleman is actually a retard

[Darth_Pelican]

:lmao Browns doing Browns things

[phxspurfan]

good pick, barkley

[Holden_Caulfield]

:lmao the fuck browns

[phxspurfan]

lololol browns wtf

[Robz4000]

Did the Browns really find a way to shit away not one, but two top five picks? In the same draft?!

[spurraider21]

wtf?

i like denzel ward, but wtf cleveland? passed up Chubb for him :lmao

[spurraider21]

damn... Von Miller and Chubb. thanks a lot cleveland.

while i'm glad the raiders didnt end up trading up for Chubb, i was hoping more QB's would be off the board by now. i want roquan to make it down to #10

[phxspurfan]

never gonna shit on a OL drafted in the 1st round. He's probably awesome

[spurraider21]

still shocked there have been no trades to this point... looks like DD will get his wish and land a QB without having to move up

[spurraider21]

aaand on queue, the bills are trading up :lol

sorry deadly

[spurraider21]

:wow they didnt have to give up an additional first. that's a big win

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[Robz4000]

Good shit Bills. Allen has the most potential of all the QBs in this draft.

[Clipper Nation]

And then they fuck it up by drafting Josh Allen. Yikes.

[spurraider21]

And then they fuck it up by drafting Josh Allen. Yikes.
well he has a racist past, so DD gets what he wants in that way

[spurraider21]

strongest arm i've ever seen, tho. right there with jamarcus. the problem is, so his accuracy is right there with russell too. he's a much better athlete to be fair

[Robz4000]

And then they fuck it up by drafting Josh Allen. Yikes.

Allen's gonna be good. Rosen is better now, but Allen will be better in three years.

[Clipper Nation]

strongest arm i've ever seen, tho.

Too bad he can't use it to complete passes at a higher percentage than Avante's betting record.

[Trill Clinton]

damn, bills took the most inaccurate qb in the draft and a potential lockerroom cancer. should have taken rose.

[spurraider21]

while my favorite player on the board is Minkah... everything i've read says the raiders will take Roquan if he's there, and will take McGlinchey otherwise. roquan pls

[Robz4000]

:lol sorry spurraider21

[spurraider21]

fuck

[spurraider21]

well... McGlinchey will probably start at RT this year and slide over to LT when Penn washes up in a year or two.

maybe they'll surprise me and take Minkah, or trade back. Edmunds would be a fit but there's been zero chatter about the raiders taking him

[Robz4000]

Edmund or trade down please.

[Robz4000]

well... McGlinchey will probably start at RT this year and slide over to LT when Penn washes up in a year or two.

maybe they'll surprise me and take Minkah, or trade back. Edmunds would be a fit but there's been zero chatter about the raiders taking him

:lmao

[Hoops Czar]

Allen's gonna be good. Rosen is better now, but Allen will be better in three years.

And he would have been available at 12. Give up three draft picks to get a 2nd or 3rd round QB with zero track record and an underwhelming college career. SMMFH!

[spurraider21]

:lmao
:lmao i give up tbh

[Robz4000]

Pick makes sense, but I wanted the Niners to draft defense to be ready for Foster's inevitable dismissal.

[Robz4000]

In b4 Lamar Jackson

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao i give up tbh

:lol Did you outsource your draft takes to hater and LkrFan this year?

[Holden_Caulfield]

a 3rd a 5th lol thats it? fucking raiders

[spurraider21]

:lol Did you outsource your draft takes to hater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) and LkrFan (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18824) this year?
Avante tbh

[spurraider21]

a 3rd a 5th lol thats it? fucking raiders
Yeah... buffalo gave up two 2nds to go from 12 to 7 and we get a 3rd and 5th to go from 10-15

thats crap

[spurraider21]

Rosen and Minkah going 10-11... that’s great value

[spurraider21]

a lot of mocks had Tampa taking Derwyn James at #7... they can get him here at 12

[spurraider21]

i'll get one right eventually

[Robz4000]

The Flyin' Hawaiian !!!!!

[AlexJones]

I still can't believe there are teams that think RB's are valuable in today's NFL. Only tight ends are less valuable

[Robz4000]

i'll get one right eventually

-Avante

[Clipper Nation]

I still can't believe there are teams that think RB's are valuable in today's NFL. Only tight ends are less valuable

RB, WR, TE = wasted first-round pick unless your team is already stacked everywhere else.

[spurraider21]

damn. redskins wanted vea for sure but tampa sniped him. i like payne... but people are reading a lot into the national championship game where he was showing up as a pass rusher all game. that's not somethin he did consistently in college, but a lot of people cite his pass rush potential. it could be fools gold. still, he's a strong run plugger. just not vea.

[spurraider21]

RB, WR, TE = wasted first-round pick unless your team is already stacked everywhere else.
adrian peterson turned the vikings around... zeke turned the cowboys into contenders with a rookie qb who you call a gimmick. it can happen, just has to be the right guy

[spurraider21]

if the raiders take fucking Kolton Miller at 15 ima barf

[Robz4000]

:wow Davenport to the Saints

[spurraider21]

Edmunds is the value pick here

Miller is the barf pick here

[spurraider21]

Derwyn james is freaking great but we already have safeties

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[Robz4000]

if the raiders take fucking Kolton Miller at 15 ima barf

Rough night for you, eh?

[spurraider21]

Crofl. Time to get drunk

[spurraider21]

disgusting... they woulda taken Miller at 10? :rollin

989682729837985793

[Clipper Nation]

disgusting... they woulda taken Miller at 10? :rollin

989682729837985793

Just a reminder that Gruden is basically unfireable with that $100 million contract. :downspin:

[Silver&Black]

I'm so fucking mad I can't see straight.

[spurraider21]

Just a reminder that Gruden is basically unfireable with that $100 million contract. :downspin:
literally the only silver lining here is that breno giacomini wont be starting :lol

[Bill_Brasky]

Holy shit Browns took GOATker Godfield

[Clipper Nation]

Damn, I feel bad for Derwin James, stuck playing in front of the other team's fans at a soccer stadium. Deano will probably try to nickel-and-dime him on his contract, too.

[Darth_Pelican]

Marcus Davenport beast

[Clipper Nation]

Cowboys just got a beast... how much help does Dak need? :wow

[Darth_Pelican]

Cowboys just got a beast... how much help does Dak need? :wow

:lol They got a white LB who was a walk-on at Boise St. Let’s not annoint him just yet.

[sickdsm]

:lol They got a white LB who was a walk-on at Boise St. Let’s not annoint him just yet.
Lol

[chunticakes]

That Cowboys win against Philly is the difference in trading down and getting an extra first round pick or getting Derwin over LVE.

Hope everyone enjoyed that 6-0 win.

I'm sure our players are better now for that win and the franchise is better off. :lol

[Blake]

i think they should take darnold... hype train has been on baker leading up to this


lol browns


:lmao they actually did it


:lmao BROWNS :lmao


:lmao Browns doing Browns things


:lmao the fuck browns


lololol browns wtf


Did the Browns really find a way to shit away not one, but two top five picks? In the same draft?!

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

I see the Seahawks drafted an RB. Guess they've finally realized Struggle isn't a franchise QB and are going to return to an RB-centric offense.

[chunticakes]

I see the Seahawks drafted an RB. Guess they've finally realized Struggle isn't a franchise QB and are going to return to an RB-centric offense.

Smart move on their behalf, tbh..

[Bill_Brasky]

Lamar Jackson last pick of the first round. Good for that kid, he was looking anxious at that table.

[Clipper Nation]

Lamar Jackson last pick of the first round. Good for that kid, he was looking anxious at that table.

At least he'll get to learn from Joe Bags.

[Darth_Pelican]

:lmao Ravens

[sickdsm]

Good for him. I like him. Last thing the Vikings needed but was wishing somehow they would get him. Like this kid.

[chunticakes]

He'll be a good receiver for Flacco.

[Blake]

strongest arm i've ever seen, tho. right there with jamarcus. the problem is, so his accuracy is right there with russell too. he's a much better athlete to be fair

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You'll be seeing him twice a year

[Avante]

How old is Joe Flacco? Can he really keep a better athlete on the bench? And they traded up to get him.

Mayfield needs to send Drew Brees and Russell Wilson something, their success as short QB's is why he's where he is today. Now can the guy sit on a bench for awhile, hmmmm?

Chubb and Von Miller, damn~~~

Why talk about the kickoff return abilities of Rashad Penny, he won't be returning kicks at Seattle.

I don't get as excited over the draft as some do, it really is a...??? How will a young cat act now that he has $$$$$$$$?

There will be somebody undrafted who will get...."how did they miss this guy?".

Well, we will have some firsts in this draft.

Brothers taken in the first round.

A one handed player drafted. And this guy is amazing.

Have we ever seen two Heisman winning QB's the first player drafted and the last player drafted in the first round?

Ok, Josh Allen. Being he ran his mouth at 15/16 means nothing. Should have been totally ignored, what can't be ignored is the guys lack of accuracy. The excuse is he threw down field more than the others. I saw him play a couple times, he was all over the place. I really don't see it as far as a first round pick goes. This....strong arm can deal with that Buffalo weather, that's lame.

Barkley will have to go some to be the best Penn State NFL RB, that would be Franco Harris. Won't take too much to be the best Giants RB....Tiki Barber.

[DeadlyDynasty]

aaand on queue, the bills are trading up :lol

sorry deadly

Fuck

[Chris]

Love the pick tbh

I agree with most people's sentiments: Sean Lee is 34 and perfect to mentor him. It's a safe pick, and Rod Marinelli really wanted him apparently. EDP really wanted him too :lmao

[Raven]

I surely missed a lot, but from what I have seen of them, Mayfield and Lamar Jackson are sure fire busts. I loled at Seahawks drafting yet another running back while I liked both out picks. I would have preferred to use the second pick on a defender, but it seemed to me the guy was too good to pass up. Also LT was the big need, so I'm happy they got a safe pick there. I hope they spend the rest of the picks on the defensive side now.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I can't believe the Raiders passed on Edmunds tbh...I'm so excited about this pick. Allen scares the hell outta me but atleast he'll sit for a year. This regime has made great moves so far so i will give them the benefit of the doubt, but damn i wanted Rosen

[DeadlyDynasty]

Vander Esch could be the next Kuechly

[DeadlyDynasty]

How old is Joe Flacco? Can he really keep a better athlete on the bench? And they traded up to get him.

Mayfield needs to send Drew Brees and Russell Wilson something, their success as short QB's is why he's where he is today. Now can the guy sit on a bench for awhile, hmmmm?

Chubb and Von Miller, damn~~~

Why talk about the kickoff return abilities of Rashad Penny, he won't be returning kicks at Seattle.

I don't get as excited over the draft as some do, it really is a...??? How will a young cat act now that he has $$$$$$$$?

There will be somebody undrafted who will get...."how did they miss this guy?".

Well, we will have some firsts in this draft.

Brothers taken in the first round.

A one handed player drafted. And this guy is amazing.

Have we ever seen two Heisman winning QB's the first player drafted and the last player drafted in the first round?

Ok, Josh Allen. Being he ran his mouth at 15/16 means nothing. Should have been totally ignored, what can't be ignored is the guys lack of accuracy. The excuse is he threw down field more than the others. I saw him play a couple times, he was all over the place. I really don't see it as far as a first round pick goes. This....strong arm can deal with that Buffalo weather, that's lame.

Barkley will have to go some to be the best Penn State NFL RB, that would be Franco Harris. Won't take too much to be the best Giants RB....Tiki Barber.

I'm surprised you put Barber over Gifford

[Darth_Pelican]

Witten retires.

[spurraider21]

still upset about taking Kolton Miller... but we did trade back before getting him and used one of those picks to get Martavis Bryant

i get that we needed OT help... we haven't had a legit RT for a few years now, and Donald Penn is getting old, but Kolton Miller is a reach in what is a weak OT class. GM's always talking about letting the board do the talking, but you can't justify Miller over a guy like Tremaine Edmunds as being anything than reaching for a need. And it's not like we can't use a linebacker, either.

[Monostradamus]

Rough night for you, eh?
What's your opinion on the Trent Brown trade? Everyone in Boston is acting like Bill just got swindled for a second time by John Lynch.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

What's your opinion on the Trent Brown trade? Everyone in Boston is acting like Bill just got swindled for a second time by John Lynch.
He's an okay replacement for Fleming, I guess. He's a big fatty who is very inconsistent, looks dominant half the time and just whiffs on blocks the other half.

Loses just about every time against the speed rush, but he's impossible to bull rush.

[monosylab1k]

He's an okay replacement for Fleming, I guess. He's a big fatty who is very inconsistent, looks dominant half the time and just whiffs on blocks the other half.

Loses just about every time against the speed rush, but he's impossible to bull rush.
Nobody asked you, faggot

[Robz4000]

What's your opinion on the Trent Brown trade? Everyone in Boston is acting like Bill just got swindled for a second time by John Lynch.

Just didn't work out here. He had his moments where his potential showed but just never put in the work. Could see him working out for Belichick since he'll put him in a situation to succeed even if he stays lazy (think he'll shape up since if he can't make it in NE he's fucked).

Fwiw he looked better with Jimmy G than he had anyone else.

[spurraider21]

round 2 underway

im hoping for one of Maurice Hurst or Josh Jackson

[spurraider21]

4 of the first 7 picks of the 2nd round have been interior linemen. and there were a bunch taken in the 20's last round too. weird run

[Silver&Black]

We needed a RB. I'm good with the USC kid.

Really wanted Nick Chubb though. Damn Browns got him 3 picks earlier than us. I think he'll do fine in the NFL (after he leaves the Browns in 3 years).

[BatManu20]

Love the pick tbh

I agree with most people's sentiments: Sean Lee is 34 and perfect to mentor him. It's a safe pick, and Rod Marinelli really wanted him apparently. EDP really wanted him too :lmao


Sean Lee is 31, not 34.

[spurraider21]

wow, we traded down all the way from 9 to 25 this round... wonder what the comp is

[Chris]

Vander Esch could be the next Kuechly

http://christianfunnypictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/little-2Bboy-2Band-2BPraying-2BDog.jpg

[Chris]

Sean Lee is 31, not 34.

Nice catch :tu

I'm happy to be wrong on that.

[SpursforSix]

No more Witten. Wonder if they try to replace this round.

[BatManu20]

Anthony Miller has to be the Cowboys pick if he’s still available.

[BatManu20]

Never mind. Connor Williams is the pick and he was a steal. Great value at pick 50.

[spurraider21]

the raiders have 4 sixths, 3 fifths, and 2 third. they need to start trading up. there's no way that many sixth round picks are making the roster :lol

[spurraider21]

damn, Mo Hurst's heart condition has scared everybody off. he was a top 15 talent tbh...

[SpursforSix]

Wonder if Witten didn't sort of fuck the Cowboys today.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Just didn't work out here. He had his moments where his potential showed but just never put in the work. Could see him working out for Belichick since he'll put him in a situation to succeed even if he stays lazy (think he'll shape up since if he can't make it in NE he's fucked).

Fwiw he looked better with Jimmy G than he had anyone else.

and then he got injured because he was too fat and missed the rest of the season

360+ pound offensive linemen are practically unheard-of, the few guys that play at that weight are nose tackles, but guys that huge don't last in the NFL very long

[spurraider21]

arden key is an interesting flier... but we literally just parted ways with aldon smith

so in the first 3 rounds we've taken 2 OT's, 1 DT, 1 Edge, and martavis bryant.

[leemajors]

Wonder if Witten didn't sort of fuck the Cowboys today.

seems like there will be no dead money or salary cap if it happens now.

[Raven]

and then he got injured because he was too fat and missed the rest of the season

360+ pound offensive linemen are practically unheard-of, the few guys that play at that weight are nose tackles, but guys that huge don't last in the NFL very long

if they are unheard of, how do you know that they don't last long? Anyway, I'm happy with the trade, and he's hard to compare to anyone, because he's so tall. We didn't pay much for him, so worthy flier.

[SpursforSix]

seems like there will be no dead money or salary cap if it happens now.

How so? I'm not up on how that works.

[benefactor]

Houston signs a safety and drafts another one with a high pick.

Eat shit Rick Smith.

[benefactor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr-tYOftnps

:lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

Browns should draft another qb like rg3 cousins

[Holden_Caulfield]

Oh shit they took Callaway to team up with Gordon :lol that will workout well

[benefactor]

Coutee to Houston. Welker gets his understudy.

[benefactor]

Surprised no one has snatched up Dickson yet. Dude is a legit weapon.

[Bill_Brasky]

David Akers can suck a cock

[Bill_Brasky]

Akers wiki

https://imgur.com/a/Doh92ee

Damn we gettin clowned, is there no justice in this universe?!?

[spurraider21]

round 2 underway

im hoping for one of Maurice Hurst or Josh Jackson
:wow got hurst in the 5th :wow

[Robz4000]

:wow got hurst in the 5th :wow

How the fuck did he fall that far?

[leemajors]

How the fuck did he fall that far?

people must have been scared of the heart condition

[spurraider21]

:wow got hurst in the 5th :wow


How the fuck did he fall that far?


people must have been scared of the heart condition
Yep. We’ll see how it plays out, but he’s a first round talent. PFF has him as their #1 overall prospect. I don’t think he’s quite that level but he’s an easy candidate for potential steal of the draft

[Robz4000]

people must have been scared of the heart condition

Heart condition or no, he's good enough to be a first round pick. Figured he'd fall to the second round but definitely no further than the third, much less fifth round. Raiders just made up for most of the shittiness that was this draft for them.

[leemajors]

boys trade a 6th for Tavon Austin, who will play as a gadget back.

[spurraider21]

Heart condition or no, he's good enough to be a first round pick. Figured he'd fall to the second round but definitely no further than the third, much less fifth round. Raiders just made up for most of the shittiness that was this draft for them.
We needed help at tackle but wildly reached for kolton Miller when there were really good players available. I like taking pj Hall in the second, but then we took another “upside” tackle in the third. What worries me is that we’re taking raw guys and banking on Tom cable to turn them into good players. He doesn’t really have the track record to convince me he can do it.

If arden key (character) and mo hurst (heart) stay on the field this draft will turn out to be great

[leemajors]

Ryan Switzer, the Cowboys’ fourth-round selection last year, is being traded to the Oakland Raiders, per a report from Ian Rapoport and Jane Slater. The Mothership’s Nick Eatman is reporting that the Cowboys will be receiving 2017 second-round selection Jihad Ward in the deal:

[SpursforSix]

boys trade a 6th for Tavon Austin, who will play as a gadget back.

I think I like this

[spurraider21]

Ward is ass. How’s switzer

[SpursforSix]

Ward is ass. How’s switzer

It's a fair trade

[leemajors]

Ward is ass. How’s switzer

He’s a pretty decent punt returner except for that fumble vs rams. Small, quick, started to come on a bit late in the year. I guess they’re more confident in Austin returning.

[SpursforSix]

a

[Avante]

How long before my Niners are back in the SB mix? Love what they are doing.

[chunticakes]

I think I like this

Are you gonna draft him next time in our fantasy league Mr. Commish?

[SpursforSix]

Are you gonna draft him next time in our fantasy league Mr. Commish?

He'll be my pick between Deadtooth and Liverfish.
so...I'm really supposed to do this thing?

[spurraider21]

- Taking 2 tackles in the top 3 rounds tells me they’re not only preparing for Donald Penn’s decline, but also recognize giacomini is not a good solution at RT. Have no clue if they want Kolton Miller or Brandon Parker shift to the right. Miller, as the higher pick, makes sense to be groomed for the more premier position, but he has played RT quite a bit whereas i don’t think Parker ever has.

- Outside of Ellis as a run plugger we’ve hit the restart button on our interior DL. Banking on 2 rookies and a second year player coming off an acl to hold it down.

- They’re still confident enough in Gareon Conley to be the #1 cb

[Chinook]

I am quite pleased with the draft for Baltimore.

Hurst wasn't my favorite guy at 22. I would have taken Moore there. Even accounting for that second trade-down, I would have gone with Ridley. However, getting an already-developed TE is great for Baltimore no matter who takes snaps. A reliable pass-catcher over the middle is a QB's best friend, and getting one with break-away speed and legit size is all the better.

Jackson at 32 was pretty perfect. If he busts, he didn't cost much, but if he succeeds, they get a franchise QB for relative pennies for four years. Once Joe's contract comes off the books, they'll have the cap space to add vets around Jackson. He's at one of the best places in the league to succeed.

Like Jackson, Orlando Brown Jr is probably at the best place he could be. Dude has a ton of potential but seems to lack motivation. Playing for his childhood team and having to live up to his father's (overrated) legacy should keep him on track.

The rest of the draft seemed to be focused on getting tall "hands" receivers for the QBs and guys who can play in the third safety/dime LB role on D. They also picked up two more OL to develop and a DE who looks like an absolute monster in the seventh. Ozzie has a knack for finding rotation-caliber DL in late rounds or UDFA, so I believe that guy may end up making something of himself. The team actually had 12 picks, and I only went into talking about three of them. This would have been too long otherwise. I'm very excited for preseason, though, especially on offense. Good year to have five PS games.

[chunticakes]

He'll be my pick between Deadtooth and Liverfish.
so...I'm really supposed to do this thing?

Absolutely yes. The Sabine Pubnuggets are taking it this year.

[Avante]

You'd think the Browns with their history (recent) would want to play it safe and go with Darnold. Why gamble with a short cat*** who has had problems with the law, done some stupid shit? If he fails it will look really bad because they did roll the dice, if Darnold failed, oh well they did what everyone else would have done.

I have this gut feeling eventually (maybe not at first) with some $$$$$$$/fame Mayfield blows it. We saw what the dude really is about, with no $$$$$$.

*** Brees/Wilson exceptions and rare.

Hate to see young guys like RGIII, Odell, doing commercials and hawking everything. Seems to be a curse.

[Blake]

You'd think the Browns with their history (recent) would want to play it safe and go with Darnold. Why gamble with a short cat*** who has had problems with the law, done some stupid shit? If he fails it will look really bad because they did roll the dice, if Darnold failed, oh well they did what everyone else would have done.

I have this gut feeling eventually (maybe not at first) with some $$$$$$$/fame Mayfield blows it. We saw what the dude really is about, with no $$$$$$.

*** Brees/Wilson exceptions and rare.

Hate to see young guys like RGIII, Odell, doing commercials and hawking everything. Seems to be a curse.

And then the Browns took Nick Chubb in the 2nd round. :lol

Another horrible draft for Cleveland

[spurraider21]

Chubb is a good fit for cleveland since they have Duke Johnson handling passing game work.

Makes the Carlos Hyde signing look dumb, though.

[spurraider21]

also, :lol donald penn getting caught up as a suspect in a domestic abuse incident right after the raiders draft 2 tackles in the first 3 rounds

[Blake]

Chubb is a good fit for cleveland since they have Duke Johnson handling passing game work.

Makes the Carlos Hyde signing look dumb, though.

Yeah, you got Hyde, why even draft a RB in the 2nd round. They need a line.

Just stupid.

[spurraider21]

Yeah, you got Hyde, why even draft a RB in the 2nd round. They need a line.

Just stupid.
They picked an o-lineman literally 2 spots before Chubb.

They can cut hyde after year one and eat 2.3 mil in dead money. Or trade him after a year. I don’t see an issue with having a known commodity for a year on an offense with that much turnover. New qb, rookie qb... probably want some veterans around

[Blake]

Chubb was an injury prone reach that took a 4 year beating in the sec.

Bad pick to take an RB here. Worse idea to take chubb.

[spurraider21]

Chubb was an injury prone reach that took a 4 year beating in the sec.

Bad pick to take an RB here. Worse idea to take chubb.
if they valued him that high, i'm not going to slam them for taking him. not gonna pretend to have studied chubb enough to know if his value was/wasn't quite that high.

but schematically it makes sense, and hyde isn't some otherworldly talent that would preclude you from seeking an upgrade

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Chubb was an injury prone reach that took a 4 year beating in the sec.

Bad pick to take an RB here. Worse idea to take chubb.

Hyde is the same sort of tweener back as the departed Ike Crowell. I don't see how he gets many touches here. Duke Johnson is a Sproles and Chubb is a short but NFL sized bell cow.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

if they are unheard of, how do you know that they don't last long? Anyway, I'm happy with the trade, and he's hard to compare to anyone, because he's so tall. We didn't pay much for him, so worthy flier.

there have been other names in the past 10 years or so, can't put my finger on them right now but, do recall them going down with some leg or foot injury pretty quickly and never having been heard from again.

[Darth_Pelican]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-reportedly-made-earl-thomas-draft-day-trade-offer-to-seahawks-still-interested/?linkId=51122578

[Trill Clinton]

my top qbs

1.baker mayfield
2.sam darnold
3.josh rosen
4.lamar jackson


not impressed with the other qb's and think all 4 should be taken in the 1st round. josh allen has bust written all over him. i hope the giants take him.

Seems accurate at this juncture.