But...But..."Mobile" quarterbacks are the future

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol 8 qbs left only one of them is mobile and he's not the "traditional" mobile

[Clipper Nation]

Pocket passers are and will always be better than gimmicks.

[Holden_Caulfield]

Blake Bulldozer had 88 yards on 10 carries, while being 12/23 for 87 yards in the air :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Blake Bulldozer had 88 yards on 10 carries, while being 12/23 for 87 yards in the air :lol

But who was taking the opposing snaps?

[Clipper Nation]

Blake Bulldozer had 88 yards on 10 carries, while being 12/23 for 87 yards in the air :lol
And only won because the other team had a gimmick QB who was even worse than he was.

[Avante]

The NFL leader in TD passes for 2017 Russell Wilson.

Sam Darnold a mobile QB, Mayfield is a mobile QB, Wentz is a mobile QB as is Prescott, Alex Smith, Mariota, Rodgers is a mobile QB.

If ya pay attention to the high school game, there it is right there. Those runner/passers will be t Texas, Alabama, USC, etc, then.....NFL.

Brady is old, Big Ben is old, Brees is getting there.

If not for injuries we could easily have seen Wentz, Rodgers, and Wilson in these playoffs.

[benefactor]

The NFL leader in TD passes for 2017 Russell Wilson.

What time is Seattle's playoff game? Asking for a friend.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

They told me Kaepernick was gonna be the greatest of all time

[Avante]

What time is Seattle's playoff game? Asking for a friend.

Tell him this....

The leagues most mobile QB is 5-1 when it comes to making the playoffs in his career in his first 6 seasons. Tell him because of that mobilty he was able to STILL pass for a league leading 34 TD, no pocket passer did better.

[spurraider21]

Bortles and Mariota both made huge plays running to win their respective games.

[Avante]

Watch Alabama tommorrow night, that is what the colleges want, which means what? The days of standing tall in the pocket are winding down.

Watch how many times the ability to run changes things. YES....an NFL QB has to be able to throw a football, but thinking we have more Tom Brady's Big Ben's, Drew Brees out there, ha!

Carson Wentz would still be playing, Aaron Rodgers would still be playing, and this is the first season in his career Russell Wilson isn't here.

[Clipper Nation]

The NFL leader in TD passes for 2017 Russell Wilson.
The reigning champion is a pocket passer. The reigning MVP is a pocket passer.

:cry "B-b-but muh regular season stats!!!" :cry

[Kyle Orton]

:lol citing Alabama

literally who is the last productive nfl qb from bama

[Avante]

The reigning champion is a pocket passer. The reigning MVP is a pocket passer.

:cry "B-b-but muh regular season stats!!!" :cry

We have seen Russell Wilson the champ, Cam Newton the MVP. Who won the Heisman, who will win the National Championship, and why act like Carson Wentz, Wilson and Rodgers wouldn't be in the mix if not for injuries?

[Avante]

:lol citing Alabama

literally who is the last productive nfl qb from bama

Hall of Famers

Bart Starr
Kenny Stabler
Joe Namath

Colleges want to put as much stress on a defense s possible, that isd done by having yiur QB a weapon himself. This is why we see all these mobile NCAA QB's. Why have a guy back there who has to just stand there, yep, makes no sense.

[Kyle Orton]

Wentz isn’t in the mix right now due to the jungle instincts that plague his young career

[Clipper Nation]

We have seen Russell Wilson the champ, Cam Newton the MVP. Who won the Heisman, who will win the National Championship, and why act like Carson Wentz, Wilson and Rodgers wouldn't be in the mix if not for injuries?
Funny how it's "Struggle Wilson the champ" even though he didn't do (or have to do) jack shit to win that game.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

First they told me the read option was gonna be the mainstay of the nfl and replace pocket passing offenses.
Now they're telling me you have to be able to run now to be a upper echelon QB

[Avante]

Wentz isn’t in the mix right now due to the jungle instincts that plague his young career

How did Wentz get to the NFL, well?

[Avante]

Funny how it's "Struggle Wilson the champ" even though he didn't do (or have to do) jack shit to win that game.

Dude, what did he do to get the Seahawks to that game, think just a little bit, ok?

[Trainwreck2100]

Bortles and Mariota both made huge plays running to win their respective games.

they're not the "traditional" mobile.

[pgardn]

:lol citing Alabama

literally who is the last productive nfl qb from bama




Bart Starr
Kenny Stabler
Joe Namath



Seems like it was only yesterday.
From my mother's womb...
Wait. I was not even conceived...

Yep, pocket passers.

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, what did he do to get the Seahawks to that game, think just a little bit, ok?

Get carried by Lynch and the defense.

[Avante]

Get carried by Lynch and the defense.

Do you ever take a few minutes and actually bone up on anything? Ever look at actual numbers, ya know stats?

Dummy, no Lynch, no LEGION OF BOOM, and what did we see....MVP talk, ANOTHER Pro bowl. more NFL records, NFL leading 34 TD's, most combined yards by a QB. I can see why ya thought Tom Savage was the best QB in Texas ya don't understand the game.

What really amazes me is this....

Don't you hear...his magical....only he could do that....Houdini....amazing.....when the Seahawks are playing? What, that isn't reality?

Dude, why do you think this guy nwho has seen then all since Johnny U is so high on the guy? Yep....a unique and rare talent and if you weren't an idiot you'd see this.

[Clipper Nation]

Dummy, no Lynch, no LEGION OF BOOM, and what did we see....

No playoffs.

[Avante]

No playoffs.

Yep, just MVP talk, another pro bowl, more NFL records. Let's see where the players rank hm this season, ok?

[Clipper Nation]

Yep, just MVP talk, another pro bowl, more NFL records.
And watching from home while the real franchise QBs are still playing.

[Avante]

And watching from home while the real franchise QBs are still playing.

Case Keenum? Foles? Mariota? Bortles?

Dude, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~


Are you really just a retard?

[Clipper Nation]

Case Keenum? Foles? Mariota?

Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees, Ryan.

[Avante]

Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees, Ryan.

Bummer that Wilson doesn't have GRONK/Belichick, Le'Veon Bell, Antonio Brown, the best set of RB's in the game and Julio Jones.

Dude, how as Wilson done vs those 4 ya don't even know do ya?

Now do this, take those 4 and Google their careers, ok? Now look at their first six seaons, ok? Then look at Wilson's first six seaons, ok? Tell me what ya see, ok? Wilson is only 29 years ok slugger, where were those at his age/experience.....well?

[Clipper Nation]

Bummer than Wilson doesn't have GRONK/Belichick, Le'Veon Bell, Antonio Brown, the best set of RB's in the game and Julio Jones.

Dude, how as Wilson done vs those 4 ya don't even know do ya?
Struggle has Jimmy Graham, Doug Baldwin and Paul Richardson. Still missed the playoffs. Fuck your excuses.

[Pelicans78]

Bummer that Wilson doesn't have GRONK/Belichick, Le'Veon Bell, Antonio Brown, the best set of RB's in the game and Julio Jones.

Dude, how as Wilson done vs those 4 ya don't even know do ya?

Jimmy Graham was a Pro Bowl TE until he went to Seattle. Career got ruined after the Saints traded him.

[Avante]

Struggle has Jimmy Graham, Doug Baldwin and Paul Richardson. Still missed the playoffs. Fuck your excuses.


Dude, Wilson is only 29 years old, ok? Now look at what Brees did with the same experience, ok? I'll even help ya...
http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/careerstats

He had inferior everything, as did Ryan, Big Ben and yes Tom Brady. I get you're too damn dumb to get this but to compare a guy with only six seasons vs how old are Brady, Brees and Big Ben is stupid. You look at ....SAME STAGE OF THE CAREER....ok stupid?

I know you're too lazy to Google Wilsons far superior stats. Hell, Brees sat on a bench as did Brady, Rodgers, while Wilson simply took over.

I challenge this board to find any QB who did it better with only six seasons of NFL experience and under 30. Let's see him.

By the time Wilson is 36 think of all the NFL records he will hold, wow!

[Clipper Nation]

Give Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, or Ryan those same receivers and they still make the playoffs. Seattle's O-line would look a lot better, too. Stop deflecting.

[Trainwreck2100]

Give Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, or Ryan those same receivers and they still make the playoffs. Seattle's O-line would look a lot better, too. Stop deflecting.
Give em prime beast mode and legion of boom see how many chips they win

[Avante]

Give Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, or Ryan those same receivers and they still make the playoffs. Seattle's O-line would look a lot better, too. Stop deflecting.

And put Wilson on the Steelers,Saints, Pats, Falcons and he's a legit SB contender.


And, if you really think those four could have survived with no running game, you're dumber than I thought. Give Wilson a Bell, Ingram/Kamura, Those Falcons RB's, Belichick.

[Clipper Nation]

And put Wilson on the Steelers,Saints, Pats, Falcons and he's a legit SB contender.

Put him on those teams and he drags them down to non-playoff status in a few years. You know, just like he did with the Seahawks once he signed that overpaid contract and his role increased.

[Trill Clinton]

bortles, mariotta, ryan, wentz(when healthy) and big ben are mobile qb's http://i67.tinypic.com/11aaa6u.jpg

[Avante]

Russell Wilson has.................SIX.............seasons of NFL football, ok? Where was Brees, Brady, Big Ben, Montana, Manning, Elway, hell....Otto, Johnny u, "Slingin' " Sammie, Bobby Layne, Sid Luckmam etc etc at at that stage of things?


Stop acting as if experience is a non factor, ok? Wilson is jut a kid compared to Brady, Big Ben and Brees. So put them where he's at to get a true read this really needs to be explained?

[Avante]

Put him on those teams and he drags them down to non-playoff status in a few years. You know, just like he did with the Seahawks once he signed that overpaid contract and his role increased.

Didn't we see what he could do with a RB and a defense? So that would change, why? Who is winning with your QB your leading rusher and half your D backfield injured, well?

Give Wilson Bell and Brown and just a good D....a dynasty

[Clipper Nation]

Didn't we see what he could do with a RB and a defense?

Yeah, we saw that he could just manage the game while said RB and defense carried him.

[Avante]

Yeah, we saw that he could just manage the game while said RB and defense carried him.

Rookie record for TD passes.

Only QB in history to post back to back 100 passer rating seasons to start a career?

How many pro bowls?

How many 4th quarter winning drives?

So all that....he's magical...Houdini....only Rusell Wilson can do that....the guy is amazing....you just ignore, why?


How many games have they won without Lynch, well?


I get this will confuse you but this is a game manager? Dude, find me anyone else that compares to that, come on guy.


http://www.nfl.com/player/russellwilson/2532975/careerstats

[Clipper Nation]

A franchise QB shouldn't be dependent on Marshawn Lynch to carry him to the playoffs. Teams around the league make the playoffs without Lynch every year.

[Avante]

A franchise QB shouldn't be dependent on Marshawn Lynch to carry him to the playoffs. Teams around the league make the playoffs without Lynch every year.

Will you please educate yourself, pretty please. Do you even know how to look at this....

http://www.nfl.com/player/russellwilson/2532975/careerstats


......you won't find anyone that impressive. Dude, you really are an idiot.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact the guy has only six seasons while Brady etc have TONS of experience AND weren't as impressive at the same stage of their career......well?


Wilson will once again be ranked in the top 20 players in the NFL, why do you think this is, well? The other NFLers are wrong?

[Trainwreck2100]

A franchise QB shouldn't be dependent on Marshawn Lynch to carry him to the playoffs. Teams around the league make the playoffs without Lynch every year.

I disagree, a franchise QB can be a game manager, they'd just have to accept the role.

[Avante]

Barring injuries we could have had....

Carson Wentz
Russell Wilson....best RB, and defense injuries.
Aaron Rodgers


to go with....Taylor, Mariota, Smith, in these playoffs.

[Clipper Nation]

I disagree, a franchise QB can be a game manager, they'd just have to accept the role.

Depends on your definition of a franchise QB. For me, it's a QB who makes everyone around them better and can will their team to victory more often than not even if the construction of the roster isn't ideal. They dominate games as opposed to just managing them. Struggle is so far from being that type of QB, it's not even funny.

[Avante]

Depends on your definition of a franchise QB. For me, it's a QB who makes everyone around them better and can will their team to victory more often than not even if the construction of the roster isn't ideal. They dominate games as opposed to just managing them. Struggle is so far from being that type of QB, it's not even funny.

Is there some reason you refuse to educate yourself on just how Wilson stacks up vs others at the same stage of the career? Why do you refuse to take a few minutes and actually see the facts. well? Dude, Wilson is only 29......do you simply not understand anything? Stop acting as if ya can't read.,.......WHERE WAS TOM BRADY ETC AT 29.....my God guy, don't you get anything?

I know you won;t get this, but.....Wilson left Wisconsin with the best QB rating in the history of NCAA football for one season, then walks right in to the NFL and win win win and win.

Dude, why does everyone see ..IT...but you don't?

Avante....Scooter has 3000 yards rushing.
You....oh yeah, well Thumper has 5000.
Avante...ah...Thumper has played 10 seasons, Scooter only 4.
You...so.

[Avante]

There was a birthday party going on here today as I tried to watch the Jags game and visit here. I sorta half assed watch it. Well I'm watching the NFL Network replay right now. I had no idea Bortles had that kind of speed, he's without question a mobile QB.

So.....

Chicago
Green Bay
Seattle
Carolina
Philly
Tampa Bay
Dallas
Houston
Jax
KC
Buffalo
Cleveland?
Tenn

All with mobile QB's.

[spurraider21]

There was a birthday party going on here today
so who turned 9 yesterday?

[sickdsm]

Keenum doing great in a big part because he's more mobile than Bradford was. Gotta be able to scramble and evade sacks to some extent.

[Bill_Brasky]

Lol so now when a mobile QB succeeds it's because "he's a different type of mobile". Give me a break.

[Avante]

so who turned 9 yesterday?

Kyann one of my granddaugters turned 14. She is an artist, plays guitar and loves Janis Joplin.....which is a bit ?

[Avante]

Key word....future.

Wentz, Prescott, Mariota, Wilson, Watson, Bortles are all young, and every season we lose one of the good old boys here comes a young mobile QB like a Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield.

Tonight well see the problems a running QB causes to a defense. Yes yes yes this kind of thing is not NFL football, BUT......the stress a QB with that ability to scoot 20 is a real problem for any D at any level. Now DB's can't just focus on a receiver, look what it does to your safties.

There stands Eli Manning, everyone knows he is no running threat, so that cornerback has no reason to peak in the backfield, and on and on.


Then there's that ability to extend a play, give receivers time to get open, this is a biggie.

Nobody is talking about the read option, that will not work in the NFL, what is talked about is a QB who can stress a D because he can run.

I was a cornerback (RB) it's a whole other deal knowing their QB has wheels. Totally different situation. First thing is you can't stay with any receivrer for very long, so as that cat runs around...............

And, here comes third and short, yep.......will he run or pass?

[Darth_Pelican]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/news/companies/hm-apologizes-monkey-hoodie/index.html



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS_RSm-WkAAcyAN.jpg

[Blake]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/news/companies/hm-apologizes-monkey-hoodie/index.html



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS_RSm-WkAAcyAN.jpg

Wtf lol

[Avante]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/news/companies/hm-apologizes-monkey-hoodie/index.html



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS_RSm-WkAAcyAN.jpg

Let's take the black athlete out of sports. Think about that.

The fastest white American....Oklahoma States John Teeters at 10.00 (HS record is 10.00 held by a black kid)

NFL All Time leading rusher....Big burly John Riggins***

Slow Steve Largent the greatest receiver.

And on and on, yep.......boring.

*** as a HS kd and lighter he was a Kansas State (9.8) 100 yards champ.

[SpursforSix]

Russell Wilson has.................SIX.............seasons of NFL football, ok? Where was Brees, Brady, Big Ben, Montana, Manning, Elway, hell....Otto, Johnny u, "Slingin' " Sammie, Bobby Layne, Sid Luckmam etc etc at at that stage of things?



Tom Brady had 3 Superbowls
Big Ben had 2 Superbowls.

[Avante]

Tom Brady had 3 Superbowls
Big Ben had 2 Superbowls.

Yes we know, now compare individual stats.

[SpursforSix]

Yes we know, now compare individual stats.

Only thing that matters is getting that ring.

[benefactor]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/news/companies/hm-apologizes-monkey-hoodie/index.html



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS_RSm-WkAAcyAN.jpg
:lol

[Avante]

Tonight another black/mobile QB will win the National Championship. His ability to make things happen with his legs the HUGE difference in the game. And, those huge black speedy/quick D linemen also big difference makers. Those speedy black RB's for Georgia won't be enought.

I've seen those all white Texas A&M, Texas, Alabama, SWC/SEC teams play, yep......slow.

What blacks have that is really unique (other than rhythm) is that size with speed combo. There are no big and fast white Usain Bolt (6-5) Bo Jackson, Marcus Dupree, Herschel Walker, Derrick Henry, Randy Moss, Leonard Fournette, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell,Eric Dickerson, etc etc etc. This is strickly black. Then we have that speed, quicks, agility combo, there are no white Devin Hester, Tyreek Hill, Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders, Dante Hall, Billy "White Shoes" Johnson, etc etc.

Asians and Mexicans, ha!

This is black only.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2-q0dJlYIc

[Clipper Nation]

Tonight another black/mobile QB will win the National Championship. His ability to make things happen with his legs the HUGE difference in the game.

:lol Wrong as usual. Bama only won because they benched Hurts for Tagovailoa, whose ability to pass the ball was the difference in the game. Well, that, and because Georgia kept feeding your boy Chubb instead of giving it to Michel.

Your takes continue to be atrocious.

[Raven]

:lol Wrong as usual. Bama only won because they benched Hurts for Tagovailoa, whose ability to pass the ball was the difference in the game. Well, that, and because Georgia kept feeding your boy Chubb instead of giving it to Michel.

Your takes continue to be atrocious.


yeah this backfired badly... It also proved once again, just how unskilled and replaceable are college qbs..

[Avante]

:lol Wrong as usual. Bama only won because they benched Hurts for Tagovailoa, whose ability to pass the ball was the difference in the game. Well, that, and because Georgia kept feeding your boy Chubb instead of giving it to Michel.

Your takes continue to be atrocious.

Wrong yet again, wow!

If not for that scramble and you know the one, game over. Alabama had legit runners playing QB, which does what? Yep, gives guys time to uncover.

Dude.....Alabama in an EASY win.....was your take, hahaha! I said.....it wouldn't shock me if Georgia won, but Bama should win.

Yep I nailed it again where there ya were 100% wrong as usual.

You saw Cowherd this morining didn't ya?

As ya know it was something like...."this kid is Russell Wilson, short, cool, intelligent, accurate passer, can run, a leader"..........what do you think when everyone around you sees you as an idiot?

Dude, tell us all again about Joe Flacco, how Alex Smith sucks, YIPPPPPEEEEE Derek Anderson, Tom Savage is the.....hahahahahaha!!!!

Moron

Avante...keep an eye on Derek Henry (Heisman)

Avante....checkout speedster Tyreek Hill (second pro bowl)

Avante....watch this Georgia frosh RB Nick Chubb (second leading SEC rusher ever)

Hahahaha!

[Avante]

So Alabama will have a mobile QB another 2-3 seasons. The next Russell Wilson according to Cowherd.

Anyone know just how great Wilson was at the NCAA level? Google his stats and be prepared to be amazed. Look at his senior seasons's QB rating, yep....the highest in NCAA history, yep...a record.

So he gets off te plane in Seattle walks right in beats out ...what was his name...ties the rookie TD record, then starts doing things never seen before. Amazing QB.

The guy has never sat on a bench, never missed a game. Has led the entire NFL with a 110.1 passer rating. Has led the NFL with 34 TD passes.

Who can list all his firsts and records?

[Blake]

Tonight another black/mobile QB will win the National Championship. His ability to make things happen with his legs the HUGE difference in the game. And, those huge black speedy/quick D linemen also big difference makers. Those speedy black RB's for Georgia won't be enought.

I've seen those all white Texas A&M, Texas, Alabama, SWC/SEC teams play, yep......slow.

What blacks have that is really unique (other than rhythm) is that size with speed combo. There are no big and fast white Usain Bolt (6-5) Bo Jackson, Marcus Dupree, Herschel Walker, Derrick Henry, Randy Moss, Leonard Fournette, Jim Brown, Earl Campbell,Eric Dickerson, etc etc etc. This is strickly black. Then we have that speed, quicks, agility combo, there are no white Devin Hester, Tyreek Hill, Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders, Dante Hall, Billy "White Shoes" Johnson, etc etc.

Asians and Mexicans, ha!

This is black only.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2-q0dJlYIc


:lol Wrong as usual. Bama only won because they benched Hurts for Tagovailoa, whose ability to pass the ball was the difference in the game. Well, that, and because Georgia kept feeding your boy Chubb instead of giving it to Michel.

Your takes continue to be atrocious.

:lol

[Blake]

Wrong yet again, wow!

If not for that scramble and you know the one, game over. Alabama had legit runners playing QB, which does what? Yep, gives guys time to uncover.

In OT the QB is back there running around, lost 16 yards.

The next play he doesn't mess around with the dancing, steps up and throws a strike.

You're so stupid.

[Avante]

Without a QB who can run you have one less weapon. The defense isn't thinking, will he run? will he pass?

I tmakes no sense of any kind to not have a guy who can evade a pass rush, scoot for 20 at anytime and plant the....run? pass?...seed.

There will come a time when all NFL QB's are mobile cats who can scoot.

Right now....

Houston
Tenn
Jax
Buffalo
Cleveland?
KC
Seattle
Arizona?
Green Bay
Chicago
Philly
Dallas
Carolina
Tampa Bay

....are set.

There stands Eli, he has to deal with a pass rush from both sides, and he doesn't tire the big guys out chasing him. A QB with some wheels can roll left or right, he has big 300 pounders burnt out from the chase. How could anyone not get how this works?

[Blake]

Right now....

Houston
Tenn
Jax
Buffalo
Cleveland?
KC
Seattle
Arizona?
Green Bay
Chicago
Philly
Dallas
Carolina
Tampa Bay

....are set.


Lol Cleveland being set

You're stupid

[Clipper Nation]

Cleveland, Buffalo, Jacksonville, KC, and Arizona are most definitely not "set." And Seattle, Dallas and Carolina are only "set" because they're still deluding themselves into thinking their mediocre-at-best quarterbacks are franchise guys.

[Avante]

Cleveland, Buffalo, Jacksonville, KC, and Arizona are most definitely not "set." And Seattle, Dallas and Carolina are only "set" because they're still deluding themselves into thinking their mediocre-at-best quarterbacks are franchise guys.

Cleveland might get Mayfield, yep, mobile. Buff, Jax, KC all have mobile QB's. See that ? by Arizona, what's that tell you?

Cam Newton is a former MVP, he is without question a franchise QB.

Prescott is doing great for a cat with only two seasons NFL experience.

Wilson in ANOTHER pro bowl. He holds how many NFL records? Dude, you really are retarded aren't ya? I;m predicting he will be ranked in the top 15 NFL players for 2017, trust me stupid, franchise QB.****

What we know for sure is this....Tom Savage sucks.

**** NFL leader with 34 TD's. most wins in history after six seasons, NFL records, once led the NFL with his 110.1 QB rating, did I mention how many NFL records? Stupid, yep, franchise QB.

So all those who rave on the guy know nothing, and a guy talking up Tom Savage .....hahahahahaha~~~~~~~

Dude, you're stupid, ok?