Joffrey Lauvergne block watch

[objective]

24 games, 263 minutes, still not a single block for Joffrey.

Sure, blocks aren't everything. But for blocks, among players who logged at least 200 minutes in a season with the Spurs, he might be the worst big man of the Robinson+ era, almost 30 years. It feels like everytime I see him in the area when there's a drive to the rim I see him planted and out of the way.

Even Matt Bonner in his final washed up season blocked 1 shot in 206 minutes. Steve Novak blocked 5 shots in a Spurs uniform in fewer minutes.

Matt Costello has 11 minutes in one game but still chased down 2 blocks. Tony Parker already has 1 block this year. One might expect Joffrey to have lucked into one by now.

Curiously, after being traded to the Bulls last season, he also had 0 blocks in 241 minutes.

And Joffrey has a player option for next season ...

[Arcadian]

:lol

[objective]

68 players so far this season have played at least 1 game and not recorded a block.

Only 6 have played at least 200 minutes.

6-0 point guard Isaiah Canaan (236m)
6-0 point guard DJ Augustin (675m)
6-3 point guard Jose Calderon (523m)
6-4 point guard Matthew Dellavedova (439m)
6-6 shooting guard Malachi Richardson (265m)

and

6-11 center Joffrey Lauvergne (263m)

[Spurtacular]

68 players so far this season have played at least 1 game and not recorded a block.

Only 6 have played at least 200 minutes.

6-0 point guard Isaiah Canaan (236m)
6-0 point guard DJ Augustin (675m)
6-3 point guard Jose Calderon (523m)
6-4 point guard Matthew Dellavedova (439m)
6-6 shooting guard Malachi Richardson (265m)

and

6-11 center Joffrey Lauvergne (263m)

:lol Curry Stopper.

[MaNu4Tres]

Spurs should try to sign Bolomboy on a cheap 2+1 deal and eat Lauvernes' salary.

[UZER]

This is Yinka Dare bad.

[LittleCriminal]

He only played 5 min tonight lol

[Spurtacular]

How hard is it for a big to get a block on a put-back by the rim in traffic?

[phxspurfan]

Spurs should try to sign Bolomboy on a cheap 2+1 deal and eat Lauvernes' salary.

That dude is worse than G league bad. We could get somebody similar to JaMychal Green (no talent energy big with size) easily from the G league. But Spurs FO likes character guys

[r0drig0lac]

24 games, 263 minutes, still not a single block for Joffrey.

Sure, blocks aren't everything. But for blocks, among players who logged at least 200 minutes in a season with the Spurs, he might be the worst big man of the Robinson+ era, almost 30 years. It feels like everytime I see him in the area when there's a drive to the rim I see him planted and out of the way.

Even Matt Bonner in his final washed up season blocked 1 shot in 206 minutes. Steve Novak blocked 5 shots in a Spurs uniform in fewer minutes.

Matt Costello has 11 minutes in one game but still chased down 2 blocks. Tony Parker already has 1 block this year. One might expect Joffrey to have lucked into one by now.

Curiously, after being traded to the Bulls last season, he also had 0 blocks in 241 minutes.

And Joffrey has a player option for next season ...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smidepressed.gif

[Spurtacular]

And Joffrey has a player option for next season ...

Was PATFO under the impression that this guy is in high demand? Joff's agent earned every penny.

[duncan2150]

Spurs should try to sign Bolomboy on a cheap 2+1 deal and eat Lauvernes' salary.

We need a défensive big, who can protect the rim, that’s not bolomboy profile. I prefer a bogut over him by far.

[BillMc]

I miss David Lee.

[objective]

28 games, 289 minutes

ZERO BLOCKS

j∅ffrey

Prime j∅ff example against the Raptors

He just backs himself all the way to the rim, squats down to get smaller, doesn't jump, and meekly raises his arms.

I swear Matt Costello is a better NBA player.

[Spurtacular]

Little Lowry took the ball up on Joff like he was the one eight inches taller, tbh. Very sad.

[objective]

68 players so far this season have played at least 1 game and not recorded a block.

Only 6 have played at least 200 minutes.

6-0 point guard Isaiah Canaan (236m)
6-0 point guard DJ Augustin (675m)
6-3 point guard Jose Calderon (523m)
6-4 point guard Matthew Dellavedova (439m)
6-6 shooting guard Malachi Richardson (265m)

and

6-11 center Joffrey Lauvergne (263m)

Since I posted these numbers, both Canaan and Dellavedova have recorded a block.

[Spurtacular]

Since I posted these numbers, both Canaan and Dellavedova have recorded a block.

What kills me is Pop giving this guy all kinds of rotation minutes and often in the mid to late third quarter to let teams jump out to big leads.

[cd98]

Thx Parker for recommending the Spurs sign this scrub.

[YGWHI]

I miss David Lee.
Me, too. And Dedmon.

They said he didn't fit offensively...Well, Spurs offense is even uglier this season.

It's weird. Pop's the best but he's willing to sacrifice team's success when he dislikes a player's personality...Spurs frontcourt were a lot better last season

[objective]

Here's a FUN STAT for all you stat nerds.

Joffrey is listed at 6-11. If his season ended today, having played 289 minutes ...

http://bkref.com/tiny/lB0w9

He would be THE ONLY PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY at 6-11 or taller to play at least 200 minutes and not record a block in a single season

NBA HISTORY

[DJR210]

Dude is worthless IMO.. clumsy goofball who tries way too much offensively and rarely finishes. This no block stat you guys are pointing out just put him an additional 2 feet into his already 6 foot grave for me :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Me, too. And Dedmon.

They said he didn't fit offensively...Well, Spurs offense is even uglier this season.

It's weird. Pop's the best but he's willing to sacrifice team's success when he dislikes a player's personality...Spurs frontcourt were a lot better last season

Dedmon also spent the off-season adding a jump shot..he's now much more playable offensively, as reflected in all his on/off offensive metrics compared to last season..

[cjw]

Team is 97.9 / 107.3 when he’s on the court (-9.4) and 109.0 / 103.5 (+5.5) with him off the court. Yes, he’s more likely to be paired with bench players but he’s also more likely to be going up against bench players. Even if Kawhi gets healthy, this team is a Gasol or Aldridge injury away from him having to play 12-20 minutes a game. Ugh.

By far the weakest link on the team.

[Spurtacular]

Dedmon also spent the off-season adding a jump shot..he's now much more playable offensively, as reflected in all his on/off offensive metrics compared to last season..

Getting rid of Dedmon / Simmons was horrendous in light of who they kept/added.

[cd98]

Is this a thread about blocking Lauvergne from getting on the court?

[Phenomanul]

Against the Raptors last night he had the advantage, position wise, on two separate occasions to swat the ball away. Instead he just back-pedaled (giving away an advantageous position) and didn't even legitimately challenge the shots...

SMDH.

[Spurtacular]

Against the Raptors last night he had the advantage, position wise, on two separate occasions to swat the ball away. Instead he just back-pedaled (giving away an advantageous position) and didn't even legitimately challenge the shots...

SMDH.

He didn't even literally challenge the shot on Lowry.

[Darius Bieber]

Would rather have DeJuan or Ayres back at this point. Fuck it, even Mengke Bateer.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Against the Raptors last night he had the advantage, position wise, on two separate occasions to swat the ball away. Instead he just back-pedaled (giving away an advantageous position) and didn't even legitimately challenge the shots...

SMDH.

I bet he was never posterized. See how many times scrubs like Olajuwon, Robinson, or Ewing were dunked on. That's something he can boast to his kids when his playing days are over.

[objective]

More fun with Joffrey and stats

Among all active 6-11 or taller players who have played at least 500 career minutes (Joffrey is now at 2579, so I'm giving him a big cushion) ...

Joffrey has the lowest career block percentage of 81 players

RC and Tony really outdid themselves and outsmarted the whole league

[objective]

And among 6-11 or taller players who have at least 2500 career minutes since 1978, the last 40 years ...

The only players who totaled 31 or fewer career blocks like Joffrey's 31 blocks in the last 40 years are:

Joffrey

[SAGirl]

:wow

[Russ]

Look at the bright side -- the Spurs finally found a backup center they can keep (forever).

[Spurtacular]

And among 6-11 or taller players who have at least 2500 career minutes since 1978, the last 40 years ...

The only players who totaled 31 or fewer career blocks like Joffrey's 31 blocks in the last 40 years are:

Joffrey

I'm honestly shocked that he has 31 blocks, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Don’t say DPG didn’t warn you about him. I remember people were legit excited about this guy :lol

[superbigtime]

Dude's clumsy as hell. Heck, bring back Splitter.

[Darius Bieber]

The Bulls and Thunder didn't want his trash ass, makes you wonder why the Spurs did.

[DAF86]

Don’t say DPG didn’t warn you about him. I remember people were legit excited about this guy :lol

Tony found another way to hinder the team. Relentless, tbh.

[objective]

No Pau against the Cavs on Tuesday.

Might be a lot of minutes for old Joff.

Will this be game he puts up his hands in front of the shooter's motion, or even jumps in the air on defense?

Will he rotate over in time or just manage to be out of the way like usual?

[ElNono]

No Pau against the Cavs on Tuesday.

Might be a lot of minutes for old Joff.

Will this be game he puts up his hands in front of the shooter's motion, or even jumps in the air on defense?

Will he rotate over in time or just manage to be out of the way like usual?

Wait for the Parker, Mills and Joffrey second unit... worst defensive lineup ever? :lol

[objective]

Wait for the Parker, Mills and Joffrey second unit... worst defensive lineup ever? :lol

That's not fair.

It's there Parker-Mills-Forbes-Joffrey second unit!

[r0drig0lac]

And among 6-11 or taller players who have at least 2500 career minutes since 1978, the last 40 years ...

The only players who totaled 31 or fewer career blocks like Joffrey's 31 blocks in the last 40 years are:

Joffrey

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Robz4000]

:lmao his first block came against Lebron

[jermaine]

Got 1 on labrick

[NASpurs]

Back to zero guys :lol

[phxspurfan]

They should've stopped play to honor him like they did for LeBron's 30k :downspin:

[Robz4000]

Back to zero guys :lol


They should've stopped play to honor him like they did for LeBron's 30k :downspin:

The Spurs' statisticians hate him more than us, they took a clear block and changed it to a Lebron turnover.

[NASpurs]

The Spurs' statisticians hate him more than us, they took a clear block and changed it to a Lebron turnover.

I just don't see how that's possible. There's a consensus hate for this guy here that unites us. That's saying something for this board.

[Robz4000]

I just don't see how that's possible. There's a consensus hate for this guy here that unites us. That's saying something for this board.

There's a couple GNSF apologists for him tbh.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao his first block came against Lebron

:lmao Damn. I'm gonna have to rewatch the game just to see that.

[ElNono]

I thought we hit rock bottom with Ayres/Pendegraff, tbh....

DEAD WRONG

[Robz4000]

I thought we hit rock bottom with Ayres/Pendegraff, tbh....

DEAD WRONG

I pray this is rock bottom. I can't imagine anyone worse than Lauvergne but I never thought it could get worse than Errors.

You know it's bad when no one bothers to come up with a nickname for such a shitty player even to mock them.

[Spurtacular]

I pray this is rock bottom. I can't imagine anyone worse than Lauvergne but I never thought it could get worse than Errors.

You know it's bad when no one bothers to come up with a nickname for such a shitty player even to mock them.

Maybe cos his name is already pretty goofy, tbh.

[TimDunkem]

Jofful Lolvergne.

[BatManu20]

Need a game of one-on-one between Ayers and Joffrey to settle this once and for all tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Is Ginger a better shot blocker than Lannister?

[TimDunkem]

Is Ginger a better shot blocker than Lannister?

Ginger T-Rex had 50 by his second year in the league while Jofful has 31 in 4 years with zero so far this season.

So, yeah, Ginger was actually the much better shot blocker. :lmao

[Robz4000]

Is Ginger a better shot blocker than Lannister?

I'm a better shot blocker tbh.

[SpurPadre]

I'm a better shot blocker tbh.

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Ginger T-Rex had 50 by his second year in the league while Jofful has 31 in 4 years with zero so far this season.

So, yeah, Ginger was actually the much better shot blocker. :lmao

lol...WOW.

[SAGirl]

:lmao his first block came against Lebron
not credited on espn stats..
watch for that -15 in a game the team won.
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge)PF
41
12-18
0-1
6-7
3
5
8
3
2
1
2
0
+23
30


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans)SF
30
4-9
2-7
3-3
0
5
5
3
1
0
0
2
+5
13


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson)SF
34
5-10
0-0
0-0
3
9
12
5
1
1
0
3
+13
10


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
30
8-15
0-0
3-4
4
6
10
3
7
0
4
4
+3
19


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green)SG
30
3-11
1-7
0-0
1
4
5
2
0
2
1
3
+14
7


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


J. Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne)C
12
2-3
0-0
0-2
2
1
3
0
0
0
1
1
-15
4


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
20
3-7
3-5
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
2
-5
9


T. Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker)PG
18
7-12
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
6
0
0
1
1
+9
14


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
23
3-8
2-6
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
2
+17
8


B. Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2488911/brandon-paul)SG
3
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
-4
0


D. Hilliard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2578259/darrun-hilliard)SG
1
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
+0
0


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol)C
DNP-RIGHT WRIST INJURY


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili)SG
DNP-RIGHT THIGH CONTUSION


TEAM

47-94
8-28
12-16
13
32
45
23
11
4
9
19

114




50.0%
28.6%
75.0%

[Robz4000]

not credited on espn stats..
watch for that -15 in a game the team won.
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100Spurs




STARTERS
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge)PF
41
12-18
0-1
6-7
3
5
8
3
2
1
2
0
+23
30


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426/davis-bertans)SF
30
4-9
2-7
3-3
0
5
5
3
1
0
0
2
+5
13


K. Anderson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson)SF
34
5-10
0-0
0-0
3
9
12
5
1
1
0
3
+13
10


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
30
8-15
0-0
3-4
4
6
10
3
7
0
4
4
+3
19


D. Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green)SG
30
3-11
1-7
0-0
1
4
5
2
0
2
1
3
+14
7


BENCH
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


J. Lauvergne (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2959753/joffrey-lauvergne)C
12
2-3
0-0
0-2
2
1
3
0
0
0
1
1
-15
4


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
20
3-7
3-5
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
2
-5
9


T. Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker)PG
18
7-12
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
6
0
0
1
1
+9
14


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526/bryn-forbes)SG
23
3-8
2-6
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
2
+17
8


B. Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2488911/brandon-paul)SG
3
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
-4
0


D. Hilliard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2578259/darrun-hilliard)SG
1
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
+0
0


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol)C
DNP-RIGHT WRIST INJURY


M. Ginobili (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/272/manu-ginobili)SG
DNP-RIGHT THIGH CONTUSION


TEAM

47-94
8-28
12-16
13
32
45
23
11
4
9
19

114




50.0%
28.6%
75.0%




They called it a turnover on Lebron. Not that I blame them.

[Phenomanul]

It was clearly a TO the ball simply landed in his hands...

[r0drig0lac]

The Spurs' statisticians hate him more than us, they took a clear block and changed it to a Lebron turnover.

nah..

[Seventyniner]

Wait for the Parker, Mills and Joffrey second unit... worst defensive lineup ever? :lol

Parker/Mills/Forbes/Bertans/Joff. Parker is actually the strong point of that lineup defensively.

[venitian navigator]

time to trade for a more decent big than jolo

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker/Mills/Forbes/Bertans/Joff. Parker is actually the strong point of that lineup defensively.
Replace Forbes with Manure and you have a point. Forbes is better defensively than he gets credit for..

[Phenomanul]

Replace Forbes with Manure and you have a point. Forbes is better defensively than he gets credit for..

All of your takes are bad. geesh.

Forbes has been under my critical review for months. In other words, I focus on every single detail of every play that he is involved in. Because his decision-making drives me up a wall. I can't help it.

When it comes to Bryn's defense, HIS DEFENSE IS ATROCIOUS. It's not for lack of effort either - he has plenty of that.

He cannot, and I say this for the umpteenth time, control his momentum. He overcommits his momentum 80% of the time which is why people use it against him.

When he closes out on 3 point shooters, he cannot contain himself and ends up under them. He's been called for fouling 3 point shooters on 9 occasions this season - that might not seem like much but the team as a whole has only done so 17 times. It's frustrating to watch - last night he closed out on Crowder and on Isaiah Thomas, and was lucky not to be called for it.

The technical foul for checking into the game before Danny Green could check out, highlights his focus issues.

Can he shoot? Yes. The other aspects of his game (playmaking, etc...) are still too raw and in full development. But his defense? Ugggh.

[objective]

Who wants more fun with Lolffrey stats?

According to NBA.com advanced stats through the defensive dashboard:

Among all players 6-10 and over, with at least 20 games played, Opponents are shooting 72.4% on him under 6 feet from the rim.

2nd worst in the league, behind the smaller, former small forward broken down Chandler Parsons. Parsons at least has 9 blocks in double the minutes.

Blocking shots isn't everything, but affecting shots is. And Joffrey is affecting them right into the rim.

[objective]

More fun:

Sure, blocks aren't everything. And yeah, maybe his defensive fg% within 6 feet is worst in the league among players his size ...

But there's more to defense, right?

After all, there's a little thing called HUSTLE

Oberto wasn't a big time shot blocker. He was smaller than Joffrey, but like him, he wasn't some great leaper. He did have 24 blocks in 1365 minutes that 06/07 title year, which isn't great (though infinity times better than Joffrey's 17/18 totals).

But Oberto made his defense work through hustle and guile.

Drawing Charges.

You might all remember a big time charge drawn in the final minutes of game 4 against Cleveland to seal the title, at least that's coming to mind. I could be wrong.

Oberto that regular season drew 31 charges (http://www.82games.com/charges0607.htm), good for 30th in the league, and if factored per 36, would have placed higher.

So good defense isn't just blocks, it can be charges drawn.

How many charges has Joffrey drawn?

According to sites like NBA.com and nbaMiner this year:

0.0

[spurraider21]

at least he stands for the anthem

[Chinook]

Who wants more fun with Lolffrey stats?

According to NBA.com advanced stats through the defensive dashboard:

Among all players 6-10 and over, with at least 20 games played, Opponents are shooting 72.4% on him under 6 feet from the rim.

2nd worst in the league, behind the smaller, former small forward broken down Chandler Parsons. Parsons at least has 9 blocks in double the minutes.

Blocking shots isn't everything, but affecting shots is. And Joffrey is affecting them right into the rim.

Have you seen this: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1664084

If you aren't that OP, it's kind of fucked up.

[Chinook]

at least he stands for the anthem

Hopefully because he doesn't leave his seat during the games.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Fatty Meals has more blocks than JoLOL??

[objective]

Have you seen this: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1664084

If you aren't that OP, it's kind of fucked up.

I don't post on realgm. It's not the first time people take material or at least cues from this board and pass it off as their own.

It is what it is.

Or maybe just great minds think alike.

[spurraider21]

he did it!

[Phenomanul]

All of your takes are bad. geesh.

Forbes has been under my critical review for months. In other words, I focus on every single detail of every play that he is involved in. Because his decision-making drives me up a wall. I can't help it.

When it comes to Bryn's defense, HIS DEFENSE IS ATROCIOUS. It's not for lack of effort either - he has plenty of that.

He cannot, and I say this for the umpteenth time, control his momentum. He overcommits his momentum 80% of the time which is why people use it against him.

When he closes out on 3 point shooters, he cannot contain himself and ends up under them. He's been called for fouling 3 point shooters on 9 occasions this season - that might not seem like much but the team as a whole has only done so 17 times. It's frustrating to watch - last night he closed out on Crowder and on Isaiah Thomas, and was lucky not to be called for it.

The technical foul for checking into the game before Danny Green could check out, highlights his focus issues.

Can he shoot? Yes. The other aspects of his game (playmaking, etc...) are still too raw and in full development. But his defense? Ugggh.

Forbes fouled another 3pt shooter tonight :rolleyes. Good thing his shot was falling.

[TheGreatYacht]

Forbes fouled another 3pt shooter tonight :rolleyes. Good thing his shot was falling.
Who gives a shit. Manu fouls players on fast breaks all the time when they're on the bonus. Fouls happen.

[Phenomanul]

Who gives a shit. Manu fouls players on fast breaks all the time when they're on the bonus. Fouls happen.

His defense is horrible. Manu's is not.

[objective]

Good for Joffrey to finally get a single block. Can he get a second? The watch continues.

[Ice009]

Anyone see the play at around 9:50 of the second quarter where Joffery is going for an offensive rebound and he's standing there after getting the ball stripped with his arms up in the air yelling for a call. I thought it was pretty funny and sad at the same time. I really feel bad for him. He's just not very good.

[jyra]

I wonder if TP actually watched Lauvergne play at the Eurobasket tournament before recommending him to the front office. He was a big reason for France's defense being much worse. Missing the length of Gobert, Batum, Gelabale and Pietrus obviously played a big part too but Lauvergne being terrible defensively was very evident even at that level of play.

Edit: Looks like I completey forgot when Lauvergne was signed. :lol