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Fabbs
01-11-2018, 03:31 PM
Cool it with the criticism of Jon Gruden for the Raiders.
The mans history and upkeep of modern strategy speaks for itself.

But Norvron Turner?

Oh hell yes bring on any and all complaints from any claiming white privilege / racial bias. Totally legit complaint.

Avante
01-11-2018, 03:46 PM
If I need some work done on one of my computers no way in hell Im taking it to "Juans". I don't want a Mexican working on anything. I want to see Asians doing the work.

Ever see a black man picking fruit? Yep, me either.

Why this stupidity of acting like we are all the same when it's so damn obvious we aren't boogles my mind.

I have a lot of black friends, the cats simply don't read. And are far more aggresive than my white friends. The least little thing and they wanna fight, yep, just like we see on a footballl field.

If an owner doesn't want a black coach, cool with me, I wouldn't want one either.

Blake
01-11-2018, 03:52 PM
Yeah you're a racist. Things everyone knows.

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 03:57 PM
If I need some work done on one of my computers no way in hell Im taking it to "Juans". I don't want a Mexican working on anything. I want to see Asians doing the work.

Ever see a black man picking fruit? Yep, me either.

Why this stupidity of acting like we are all the same when it's so damn obvious we aren't boogles my mind.

I have a lot of black friends, the cats simply don't read. And are far more aggresive than my white friends. The least little thing and they wanna fight, yep, just like we see on a footballl field.

If an owner doesn't want a black coach, cool with me, I wouldn't want one either.

I agree with you on this one.

Was flipping through the channels over the holidays and watched about 10 minutes of the big yearly dog show. No problem saying, this type of dog is smarter than that one. Or...this dog does this better than that one.

But start applying it to humans and all of a sudden you're a racist. BUT...it's OK to say blacks are faster than whites. You just can't say that Asians are smarter than blacks.

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 03:59 PM
Yeah you're a racist. Things everyone knows.

So you don't believe that there are any differences between different races? Physiological differences?

Avante
01-11-2018, 04:09 PM
I agree with you on this one.

Was flipping through the channels over the holidays and watched about 10 minutes of the big yearly dog show. No problem saying, this type of dog is smarter than that one. Or...this dog does this better than that one.

But start applying it to humans and all of a sudden you're a racist. BUT...it's OK to say blacks are faster than whites. You just can't say that Asians are smarter than blacks.

To me a racist is a person who thinks this......all blacks are dumb.....all blacks are fast. That simply isn't true. Christian McCaffrey is one of the fastest RB's in the NFL. At the Worlds Track Championships last year a white cat won the 200m. BUT.....we do have %. Few white guys are fast compared to blacks, few black men are well read.

Look at Japan and China compared to the mess that is Mexico.

Look at the violence in Nigeria, the Middle East. We are different, so playing pretend, why?

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 04:12 PM
To me a racist is a person who thinks this......all blacks are dumb.....all blacks are fast. That simply isn't true. Christian McCaffrey is one of the fastest RB's in the NFL. At the Worlds Track Championships last year a white cat won the 200m. BUT.....we do have %. Few white guys are fast compared to blacks, few black men are well read.

Look at Japan and China compared to the mess that is Mexico.

Look at the violence in Nigeria, the Middle East. We are different, so playing pretend, why?

Now you're mixing shit up. I figured this would be pointless.

Avante
01-11-2018, 04:18 PM
Now you're mixing shit up. I figured this would be pointless.

Not at all your comprehension skills have always sucked.

6-10 black guy is sitting across from you on a bus, you ask....basketball? That is a racist in my book. He smiles and says....high jump, hate basketball.

spurraider21
01-11-2018, 04:27 PM
So you don't believe that there are any differences between different races? Physiological differences?
this has nothing to do with physiology

If I need some work done on one of my computers no way in hell Im taking it to "Juans". I don't want a Mexican working on anything. I want to see Asians doing the work.

Ever see a black man picking fruit? Yep, me either.

Why this stupidity of acting like we are all the same when it's so damn obvious we aren't boogles my mind.

I have a lot of black friends, the cats simply don't read. And are far more aggresive than my white friends. The least little thing and they wanna fight, yep, just like we see on a footballl field.

If an owner doesn't want a black coach, cool with me, I wouldn't want one either.

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 04:27 PM
Not at all your comprehension skills have always sucked.

6-10 black guy is sitting across from you on a bus, you ask....basketball? That is a racist in my book. He smiles and says....high jump, hate basketball.

I don't think that's racist. If I see anyone that's 6'10", the first thing I wonder is if they played basketball.

spurraider21
01-11-2018, 04:28 PM
although im curious, how often does avante watch men pick fruit?

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 04:29 PM
this has nothing to do with physiology

well yeah...when you stack the posts like that...I can see your point.

spurraider21
01-11-2018, 04:41 PM
well yeah...when you stack the posts like that...I can see your point.
i quoted literally one post he made 53 minutes ago :lol

scroll up tbh

rjv
01-11-2018, 04:42 PM
although im curious, how often does avante watch men pick fruit? that's about as likely as the assertion that he has any friends, much less "a lot of black ones". it's really mind "boogling".

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 04:45 PM
i quoted literally one post he made 53 minutes ago :lol

scroll up tbh

Yeah...I was agreeing with you that my response really didn't have anything to do with his post after I read it again.

Avante
01-11-2018, 04:45 PM
I don't think that's racist. If I see anyone that's 6'10", the first thing I wonder is if they played basketball.

I worked with a white guy who was 6-11, it was real obvioius he was no basketball player.

SpursforSix
01-11-2018, 04:46 PM
I worked with a white guy who was 6-11, it was real obvioius he was no basketball player.

gotcha. because he was white.

Avante
01-11-2018, 04:47 PM
although im curious, how often does avante watch men pick fruit?

Dude, I live in...............CENTRAL CALI....now think just a little bit, ok?

Avante
01-11-2018, 04:49 PM
I have never been in the home of one of my black friends and noticed a shelf full of books. In my Navy days I never saw a black cat reading. I don't see this need to know with them.

I know all there is to know about them blues, football, track. I cant talk baseball, soccer, opera, auto mechanics at all. Am I smart then dumb ot just have interests and non interests? In my experiencecs blacks don't delve deeply into anything.

Blake
01-11-2018, 04:59 PM
I don't want a Mexican working on anything. I want to see Asians doing the work.



To me a racist is a person who thinks this......all blacks are dumb.....all blacks are fast. That simply isn't true.

Yeah you just described yourself almost right away.

Blake
01-11-2018, 05:00 PM
I have never been in the home of one of my black friends and noticed a shelf full of books. In my Navy days I never saw a black cat reading. I don't see this need to know with them.

Were they at the Olongapo bar with you?

rjv
01-11-2018, 05:03 PM
Were they at the Olongapo bar with you?

i think avante is confusing porn for literature.

Chucho
01-11-2018, 05:04 PM
Dude, I live in...............CENTRAL CALI....now think just a little bit, ok?

So because there is a volume of fruit pickers, that enables you?

Avante
01-11-2018, 05:18 PM
i think avante is confusing porn for literature.

That was stupid.

Avante
01-11-2018, 05:20 PM
So because there is a volume of fruit pickers, that enables you?

Dude, I;ve been driving by Mexican farm**** laborers in the fields here all my life (worked in them myself in HS) ...OK? This is central Cali the ag capital of the world, ok? I haver never seen a black working these fields, ok?

**** many times been stuck behind a train of Mexicans going to whatever field is being worked that day.

Avante
01-11-2018, 05:29 PM
Listen to John Lee Hooker, Bukka White, The Platters, The Drifters, The Coasters, Bessie Smith, The Olympics, The Five Satins, The Shirelles, The Chantels, white people can't do that, a Mexican.....ha!

An Asian hunched over an old beat up acoustic guitar moanin'...."I gots me a woman, mean as she can be, she's a big fat mama, 303" it just won't work.

Some Chinaman trying to....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FWyOor_oZQ

Chris
01-11-2018, 09:07 PM
Fabbs on to something.


NFL Investigates Oakland Raiders: May Have Hired White Head Coach Before Interviewing Black One

https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2018/01/john_gruden_gi.jpg?itok=Nn2Wlqin


Did the Oakland Raiders violate the NFL’s affirmative action policy when they hired longtime coach and commentator Jon Gruden last week?

That’s what the league "will look into," said NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy Thursday, as the league investigates whether Oakland violated what’s known as the "Rooney Rule," which requires teams to interview at least one "minority" coaching candidate before filling the position.

On Wednesday, the Fritz Pollard Alliance, a nonprofit that promotes "diversity and equality of job opportunity in the coaching, front office and scouting staffs" in the NFL, asked the league to look into the matter.

Counsel Cyrus Mehri and N. Jeremi Duru expressed concern that raiders owner Mark Davis reached an agreement with Gruden before interviewing a minority candidate.

The day prior, Davis said he and Gruden reached an agreement on Christmas Eve. One week later the owner fired head coach Jack Del Rio. The problem, as far as the Rooney Rule is concerned, is that Oakland may have come to an agreement with a white coach, Gruden, before interviewing any minority coaches in good faith.

General Manager Reggie McKenzie said that he interviewed two minority candidates before Gruden’s hiring was announced on Jan. 6 — Raiders tight ends coach Bobby Johnson and University of Southern California offensive coordinator Tee Martin.

But as Mehri told ESPN, "If in December, Gruden and Davis reach an agreement — not necessarily a written, contractual agreement, but a verbal agreement — that Gruden was going to coach for the Raiders, and then after that they do these interviews with minority coaches, that would be a violation of the Rooney Rule."

The NFL has punished teams for violating the Rooney Rule. In 2003, Detroit Lions then-general manager Matt Millen was fined $200,000 for hiring head coach Steve Mariucci before interviewing a black candidate.

The rule, named after former Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney, was created in reaction to the firings of two black coaches in 2002, Tony Dungy of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Dennis Green of the Minnesota Vikings.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/25763/nfl-investigates-oakland-raiders-may-have-hired-jared-sichel

Avante
01-11-2018, 09:13 PM
What a stupid rule.

If I owned a team......I wanted Gruden, so why waste somebody's time? I was only going to hire Gruden, yep, make him an offer he can't refuse. To bring in anyone else simply wouldn't be fair to them.

Funny old world isn't it?

The Cowboys aren't hiring a fat unattractive girl as a cheerleader.

How many white coachs at HBCU schools?

Perfectly fine to have EBONY magazine, how about IVORY? BET TV, how about WET? Miss Black America? How about Miss White America?

When do blacks figure out if they really need to be treated better then cool the shit music, cool the gangs, cool the drug bullshit, stop bailing on their kids.

Chris
01-11-2018, 09:31 PM
What a stupid rule.

If I owned a team......I wanted Gruden, so why waste somebody's time? I was only going to hire Gruden, yep, make him an offer he can't refuse. To bring in anyone else simply wouldn't be fair to them.

Funny old world isn't it?

The Cowboys aren't hiring a fat unattractive girl as a cheerleader.

How many white coachs at HBCU schools?

Perfectly fine to have EBONY magazine, how about IVORY? BET TV, how about WET? Miss Black America? How about Miss White America?

When do blacks figure out if they really need to be treated better then cool the shit music, cool the gangs, cool the drug bullshit, stop bailing on their kids.

Affirmative action is a Liberal thing. Don't try to make any sense of it.

pgardn
01-11-2018, 09:51 PM
I agree with you on this one.

Was flipping through the channels over the holidays and watched about 10 minutes of the big yearly dog show. No problem saying, this type of dog is smarter than that one. Or...this dog does this better than that one.

But start applying it to humans and all of a sudden you're a racist. BUT...it's OK to say blacks are faster than whites. You just can't say that Asians are smarter than blacks.

So you think Avante is "smart" because he can memorize a list? Because he reads books of lists?
He can't work out the most simple thought patterns that involve any sort of analysis. So I don't give a shit how much he reads, it's nothing beyond memorizing, no analysis, no critical thinking whatsoever. In my estimation he is stupid.

So what exactly is smart? Because a dog can be domesticated it's smart? It does what a human likes? Hogs are damn smart animals in the wild, after they get out from under the domestication. They learn patterns of behavior very quickly that avoid getting them killed. They have become an extremely "smart" pest in South Texas.

What is smart?

Avante
01-11-2018, 10:59 PM
So you think Avante is "smart" because he can memorize a list? Because he reads books of lists?
He can't work out the most simple thought patterns that involve any sort of analysis. So I don't give a shit how much he reads, it's nothing beyond memorizing, no analysis, no critical thinking whatsoever. In my estimation he is stupid.

So what exactly is smart? Because a dog can be domesticated it's smart? It does what a human likes? Hogs are damn smart animals in the wild, after they get out from under the domestication. They learn patterns of behavior very quickly that avoid getting them killed. They have become an extremely "smart" pest in South Texas.

What is smart?

Show me a book of lists, ya can't. What I have are life experiences, 68 years worth of them. I;ve learned a few things little guy, stuff like....

Never tell a woman her hair looks anything other than...WOW~~~~

Keep your mouth shut and do what you are told in the work place.

Never say anything but....yes sir....to a cop.

Never zero in on Miss Tonight until after the band breaks, you'll figure this out.

Ya want to sell something for 3 bucks, ya ask 5.

If ya plan on a good time with your woman Saturday night, ya bettrr start working on it Thursday.

Then there's all that ATS stragedy.

Dude, You and critical thinking, hahahaha~~~~~~~

I was blessed with a great memory, if the interest is there, it's locked away in the vaults forever. I nevrer forget anything, ever. Now add the fact I read books, big books and lots of them.

Dude, YOU and critical thinking, are you kidding me?

I see you as a total moron, ok?

Here I sit $$$$$$$$$$$ set for life and will never work another day. I have about 90% of everything I want. I can talk about things you have no clue at all about. Look at yourself asshole, what a mess.

Blake
01-11-2018, 11:38 PM
Show me a book of lists, ya can't.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1PoCf06o5L._AC_UL320_SR194,320_.jpg

5 second Google

pgardn
01-11-2018, 11:52 PM
Show me a book of lists, ya can't. What I have are life experiences, 68 years worth of them. I;ve learned a few things little guy, stuff like....

Never tell a woman her hair looks anything other than...WOW~~~~

Keep your mouth shut and do what you are told in the work place.

Never say anything but....yes sir....to a cop.

Never zero in on Miss Tonight until after the band breaks, you'll figure this out.

Ya want to sell something for 3 bucks, ya ask 5.

If ya plan on a good time with your woman Saturday night, ya bettrr start working on it Thursday.

Then there's all that ATS stragedy.

Dude, You and critical thinking, hahahaha~~~~~~~

I was blessed with a great memory, if the interest is there, it's locked away in the vaults forever. I nevrer forget anything, ever. Now add the fact I read books, big books and lots of them.

Dude, YOU and critical thinking, are you kidding me?

I see you as a total moron, ok?

Here I sit $$$$$$$$$$$ set for life and will never work another day. I have about 90% of everything I want. I can talk about things you have no clue at all about. Look at yourself asshole, what a mess.

You read big books.
So you are smart...

You are a liar and you are dumb.
Set for life at 67... Your life is over.
You should have already lived it.
You grew up stupid and you remain stupid.

Make an argument for why the moon should theoretically have fewer craters than the earth. You know so much and read big books. And after you attempt to google this, imgonna drag your stupid ass down a paved road butt-naked.

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:00 AM
You read big books.
So you are smart...

You are a liar and you are dumb.
Set for life at 67... Your life is over.
You should have already lived it.
You grew up stupid and you remain stupid.

Make an argument for why the moon should theoretically have fewer craters than the earth. You know so much and read big books. And after you attempt to google this, imgonna drag your stupid ass down a paved road butt-naked.

I read big books which means I know a lot about what interests me. Stuff like the history of boxing, music, track, Movies, bodybuilding, pro rasslin'. the sci fi novel, a lot of bios. Couldn't care less about craters on the moon ya dumbass, who gives a fuck about stupid shit like that, yep, a moron like you.

Talk to me about the first black sprinters in the SEC, ok? How about British authors in sci fi, the impact they made, ok? Who inspired Charley Patton, the King of The Delta Blues....well?

I see you as a sad glump of crap.

Dude, craters on the moon.......hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~ Boring mutherfucker ain't ya?

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:05 AM
I read big books which means I know a lot about what interests me. Stuff like the history of boxing, music, track, Movies, bodybuilding, pro rasslin'. the sci fi novel, a lot of bios. Couldn't care less about craters on the moon ya dumbass, who gives a fuck about stupid shit like that, yep, a moron like you.

Talk to me about the first black sprinters in the SEC, ok? How about British authors in sci fi, the impact they made, ok? Who inspired Charley Patton, the King of The Delta Blues....well?

I see you as a sad glump of crap.



Is a very basic question about big stuff, not little mundane crap.

Answer it.
You can't.

And if you do answer something that MS kids know by looking it up, I'll ask another extension and prove you are stupid. You don't know shit about things bigger than yourself.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:07 AM
Oh cool.

So I could know a bunch about roller derby, and nothing about the origin of language, and that would make me smart?
fckn dimwit...

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:11 AM
Is a very basic question about big stuff, not little mundane crap.

Answer it.
You can't.

And if you do answer something that MS kids know by looking it up, I'll ask another extension and prove you are stupid. You don't know shit about things bigger than yourself.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow down little man, ok? I need you to answer what I asked you, ya see it works like this stupid.....

I have my interests, when it comes to those interests I have it 100% covered, and I have a lot of interests. Trust me slugger craters on the moon ain't one of them, hahahaha~~~~~~ Fucking dummy.

Talk about things that are interesting, ya boring sack if shit. got it?

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:14 AM
Oh cool.

So I could know a bunch about roller derby, and nothing about the origin of language, and that would make me smart?
fckn dimwit...

Dummy, what do you know about the opera, the ballet, the origins of jazz, the origins of Alabama blues, the first black to own a sprint WR? Yep, ya don't know shit do ya? Why? Yep, ya don't care, right?

It's all about interests ya dumb fuck, ok?

Dummy, this is a football forum, ok, so tell me.....

First HBCU athlete to have a 1000 yard season, well?

First Olympic athlete to play in the NFL, well?

What WR was leglly blind in one eye, well?

Answer the questions, ya can't can ya dummy?

I have the ability to know all there is to know about anything, so now it's about what interests me, see how that works dummy? I know...0....about romance novels, auto mechanics, soap operas, soccer, craters on the moon, ok?

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:22 AM
"I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know
If you know what I mean"

This is YOUR song!
Who sang this?
And why does it fit your intellect so perfectly?

And I will ask the questions you nitwit. You claim you are smart, the lyrics above nail you.
Tell us why they fit exactly what you told the board?

Mr. Shallow Water... Live in a tiny world. Don't go to deep.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:24 AM
Dummy, what do you know about the opera, the ballet, the origins of jazz, the origins of Alabama blues, the first black to own a sprint WR? Yep, ya don't know shit do ya? Why? Yep, ya don't care, right?

It's all about interests ya dumb fuck, ok?

Dummy, this is a football forum, ok, so tell me.....

First HBCU athlete to have a 1000 yard season, well?

First Olympic athlete to play in the NFL, well?

What WR was leglly blind in one eye, well?

Answer the questions, ya can't can ya dummy?

I have the ability to know all there is to know about anything, so now it's about what interests me, see how that works dummy? I know...0....about romance novels, auto mechanics, soap operas, soccer, craters on the moon, ok?

you changed the discussion ya dumb ass, so here we go.

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:29 AM
"I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know
If you know what I mean"

This is YOUR song!
Who sang this?
And why does it fit your intellect so perfectly?

And I will ask the questions you nitwit. You claim you are smart, the lyrics above nail you.
Tell us why they fit exactly what you told the board?

Mr. Shallow Water...


Dude, you;re the one who can't answer anything I ask you. So ..."I;m not aware of too many things" ....is you not me.

Dude, talk to me about the origins of the Gothic novel, ok? How about Chicago Blues, well? Talk to me about the the old AFL, ok? What about the Jamaica athlete at USA schools? The Nigerian in boxing? Talk to me about the great Cuban bodybuilder Sergio Olvia, ok? What about Hollywod, can ya talk the silent movies, well?

Come on stupd, show me you know more than just a load of boring ass crap, ok?

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:30 AM
you changed the discussion ya dumb ass, so here we go.

Dude, this is all about you, not me, got it bitch?

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:35 AM
Dude, you;re the one who can't answer anything I ask you. So ..."I;m not aware of too many things" ....is you not me.

Dude, talk to me about the origins of the Gothic novel, ok? How about Chicago Blues, well? Talk to me about the the old AFL, ok? What about the Jamaica athlete at USA schools? The Nigerian in boxing? Talk to me about thegret Cuban bodybuilder Sergio Olvia, ok? What about Hollywod, can ya talk the silent movies, well?

Come on stupd, show me you know more than just a load of boring ass crap, ok?

Who sang the song and why does this song fit your intellect perfectly.
You like music, you think you know a lot. I put it together for you explain it.

Everything you asked me is reference material it takes no real thought. I can just look it up, no application, nothing substantial.

What part of the 200 meter dash uses the most energy? and why physically and biologically?
You know track, answer it.
I dare you, shallow water turtle brain.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:38 AM
Dude, this is all about you, not me, got it bitch?

See this is how you get exposed.

I have put music and track together in a more profound way and you are lost?
Gottcha calling me bitch because you know in your heart, you are stupid.
Answer the questions, they are your interests.

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:43 AM
Who sang the song and why does this song fit your intellect perfectly.
You like music, you think you know a lot. I put it together for you explain it.

Everything you asked me is reference material it takes no real thought. I can just look it up, no application, nothing substantial.

What part of the 200 meter dash uses the most energy? and why physically and biologically?
You know track, answer it.
I dare you, shallow water turtle brain.

So ya just ignore everything I asked you, with questions, ha~~~~ Dude, ya don't know shit ya just admitted by...I just look it up....I don't have to look it up, ya dumb fuck, ok? I already know it all, it's called knowledge.

So you've proven ya can't talk anything without looking it up, how sad is that stupid?

Dude, you're too lazy to look up anything this is why ya don't know anything.

Stupid, talk to me about ODD JOHN the Olaf Stapeldon novel, what's your take?

Avante
01-12-2018, 12:46 AM
See this is how you get exposed.

I have put music and track together in a more profound way and you are lost?
Gottcha calling me bitch because you know in your heart, you are stupid.
Answer the questions, they are your interests.

You have ignored everything I;ve asked you, the reason being you don't know anything. All you do is try to get off your stupidity.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:51 AM
Stephen J Gould

What are your thoughts about the pace of evolution. Do you see it as slow progression, or long periods with very little change interrupted by shorter periods of big changes?

Discuss.

You claimed you are smart and read a lot of big books.
Truth is your scope of knowledge and analysis is tiny.
And based on the fact I asked you TRACK QUESTION, your thinking is unbelievably shallow.

"Take me into shallow water
Before I get to deep"

Its Fckn you! She sang about people like you!
You are truly a dumb ass.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:52 AM
Answer the track question ya F'N retard.
I dare you.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 12:58 AM
You said you know all about track.
You know all about the 200 m dash.

Its YOUR subject, explain my question.
Im ready to run you ragged.

Avante
01-12-2018, 01:00 AM
Stephen J Gould

What are your thoughts about the pace of evolution. Do you see it as slow progression, or long periods with very little change interrupted by shorter periods of big changes?

Discuss.

You claimed you are smart and read a lot of big books.
Truth is your scope of knowledge and analysis is tiny.
And based on the fact I asked you TRACK QUESTION, your thinking is unbelievably shallow.

"Take me into shallow water
Before I get to deep"

Its Fckn you! She sang about people like you!
You are truly a dumb ass.

Dude, how many questioins have I asked you? You can't talk anything I've tried tot alk about, yep. ya can't, ya see ya don't know shit. So until you start answering what is being asked we are stuck, got it? Dude, you don't know shit and I;m proving that right now.

Watch how easy this is...

Hey stupid, talk to me about that plantation fighter who ended up over in Europe fighting for the world tiltle, ok?

Avante
01-12-2018, 01:01 AM
Answer the track question ya F'N retard.
I dare you.

Answer my questions dummy, yep,ya don't have a clue do ya?

pgardn
01-12-2018, 01:02 AM
I'm not even reading your questions.

Answer the track question. It's your forte. You know it all.

The 200 m dash.

Explain.

Avante
01-12-2018, 01:07 AM
I'm not even reading your questions.

Answer the track question. It's your forte. You know it all.

The 200 m dash.

Explain.

Let's work on showing all the stuff you knpw nothing about first, ok? So ya better try and nswer my questions, then once it's established that yes you're totally stupid then we;ll talk some track, got it? This is about showing how little ya know, got it?

I don't think ya know shit and asd we are seeing, ya don't know shit.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 01:11 AM
Good night Avante you sad old fake.

No wonder you never understood the 200 m dash you banter on about.
Seriously, think about how many times you claimed you understood it and you can't answer simple questions about it because it does not involve a name and a time. You poor old sap.
You can't even answer questions you claim to be an expert on?

All you do is regurgitate lists.
Read Death Of A Salesman.
That should hit home as well, or probably not.

Now continue on about how people can't answer your redundant reference material.
Next post please.
Thanks.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 01:12 AM
Please don't ever ask Avante a science question.
He will soil his Depends.

Avante
01-12-2018, 01:21 AM
Good night Avante you sad old fake.

No wonder you never understood the 200 m dash you banter on about.
Seriously, think about how many times you claimed you understood it and you can't answer simple questions about it because it does not involve a name and a time. You poor old sap.
You can't even answer questions you claim to be an expert on?

All you do is regurgitate lists.
Read Death Of A Salesman.
That should hit home as well, or probably not.

Now continue on about how people can't answer your redundant reference material.
Next post please.
Thanks.

It was proven yoiu can't talk about anything, we just saw that ya dumb fuck. I gave you how many chances to put me in my place and ya couldn't answer even one question. My God guy just how damn stupid are you?

And, it's fun showing you up, I just wish ya were more of a challenge ya dummy.

The 200m takes the speed of a 100m sprinter and the endurance of a 400m cat, the key is being able to maintain/sustain a high % of your max velocity. There are four stages, your start, acceleration to the curve, running the curve, then bringing it home. The best 200m cats usually had a 400 foundation, it is more about endurance than just speed since nobody is speeding up after around 70m. Usain Bolt was a teenage 45.3, Michael Johnson a 400 WR holder, they are the best 200m cats ever.

Avante
01-12-2018, 01:23 AM
Please don't ever ask Avante a science question.
He will soil his Depends.

Dude, that coming from a guy who couldn't answer how many questions he was asked?

This is funny....

You...how many craters on the moon?
Avante....how would I know, or care?
You...you're stupid.

HA~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Me...talk to me about Jamaican athletes at USA schools
You...stick to stuff I know, what you know doesn't count.

HA~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

pgardn
01-12-2018, 08:29 AM
You are changing the questions you are asked to hide from your own ignorance.
Can you cook food?

Im asking you questions here little fella.

SpursforSix
01-12-2018, 10:59 AM
So you think Avante is "smart" because he can memorize a list? Because he reads books of lists?
He can't work out the most simple thought patterns that involve any sort of analysis. So I don't give a shit how much he reads, it's nothing beyond memorizing, no analysis, no critical thinking whatsoever. In my estimation he is stupid.

So what exactly is smart? Because a dog can be domesticated it's smart? It does what a human likes? Hogs are damn smart animals in the wild, after they get out from under the domestication. They learn patterns of behavior very quickly that avoid getting them killed. They have become an extremely "smart" pest in South Texas.

What is smart?

Where did I ever imply that Avante is smart?

spurraider21
01-12-2018, 02:09 PM
To me a racist is a person who thinks this......all blacks are dumb.....all blacks are fast. That simply isn't true.
:lmao

I have a lot of black friends, the cats simply don't read. And are far more aggresive than my white friends. The least little thing and they wanna fight, yep, just like we see on a footballl field.

If an owner doesn't want a black coach, cool with me, I wouldn't want one either.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 02:27 PM
It was proven yoiu can't talk about anything, we just saw that ya dumb fuck. I gave you how many chances to put me in my place and ya couldn't answer even one question. My God guy just how damn stupid are you?

And, it's fun showing you up, I just wish ya were more of a challenge ya dummy.

The 200m takes the speed of a 100m sprinter and the endurance of a 400m cat, the key is being able to maintain/sustain a high % of your max velocity. There are four stages, your start, acceleration to the curve, running the curve, then bringing it home. The best 200m cats usually had a 400 foundation, it is more about endurance than just speed since nobody is speeding up after around 70m. Usain Bolt was a teenage 45.3, Michael Johnson a 400 WR holder, they are the best 200m cats ever.

Wrong.

The major problem in any sport is the acceleration required.
Where isthe longest sustained acceleration required in the 200.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 02:30 PM
Where did I ever imply that Avante is smart?

You did not.

This was to bait him in. I thought he would also have something to say about dogs as well.
He does not understand the 200 you ran, how could I run afoul of such a blantant omission.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 02:40 PM
Avante:

Science Friday is on NPR. Yeah you are on this I bet.

Have you heard we now have good evidence for gravitational waves because of 2 neutron stars colliding? also we are picking up very strong radio waves from way out in the universe. We have observed this before from a number of different sources but now, now my Renaissance man, we have detected multiple strong radio waves bent by a strong magnetic field COMING REPEATEDLY FROM THE SAME PLACE! Pretty weird. Please ponder this during your forays thru trash cans looking for cassette tapes. You can add this new information to your science fiction novel concerning Planet Zorbos... I sense a great twist in plot coming from your superior creativity.

Avante
01-12-2018, 03:54 PM
Wrong.

The major problem in any sport is the acceleration required.
Where isthe longest sustained acceleration required in the 200.

100% wrong.

Tons of great 60m cats suck at 200m, they lack speed endurance which is sprinting. World class sprinters are able to maintain their max velocity a larger % of a race, this is where you see Olympic caliber sprints.

Nobody is able to shift gears after around 70m in a 100m (at 200m guys aren't at 100% max prior to to curve), at this point now it's a long decelleration*** phase, the great ones decellerate at a slower pace, giving the illusion they are speeding up, nope, that isn't happening.

The great Tommie Smith who was world ranked in all three sprints and a 200/400 WR holder was the cat who was able to run longer before hiting his max, yep, a freak of nature. Usain Bolt also doesn't hit MV until later than everyone else, another freak.

*** the reason 100/200m cats run all those 300's, speed endurance is the most important factor in everythinhg other than an indoor 60.

Avante
01-12-2018, 03:58 PM
Avante:

Science Friday is on NPR. Yeah you are on this I bet.

Have you heard we now have good evidence for gravitational waves because of 2 neutron stars colliding? also we are picking up very strong radio waves from way out in the universe. We have observed this before from a number of different sources but now, now my Renaissance man, we have detected multiple strong radio waves bent by a strong magnetic field COMING REPEATEDLY FROM THE SAME PLACE! Pretty weird. Please ponder this during your forays thru trash cans looking for cassette tapes. You can add this new information to your science fiction novel concerning Planet Zorbos... I sense a great twist in plot coming from your superior creativity.

Thinking others need to share your interests is a sign of your stupidity. Bringing that here to a football forum another sign of...DUH~~~ Go to The Club and make a thead about that boring ass shit, watch how little play it will get, dude......nobody cares, ok?

I'm into the history of things that interest me, it's origins, who I need to know about, who/what was important. Trust me talking planets is moronic unless that is your line of work, it's not.

The first NFL season, the first blues on record, the great sprinters back on dirt tracks, football with a fullback, when the SWC/SEC started playing black players, the first Sci Fi novels, the origins of the Gothic novel, etc etc, couldn't care less about planets, ok?

I'll be starting a Robert E. Howard novel about a pirate, who did REH bring us (movies) and who is that pirate? Later today I'll be mixing some Louis Jordan, The Ink Spots. Wynonnie Harris, Leana Horne, give me three more that would fit, ok?

Try talking planets with anyone, watch how interested they aren't.

pgardn
01-12-2018, 08:50 PM
100% wrong.

Tons of great 60m cats suck at 200m, they lack speed endurance which is sprinting. World class sprinters are able to maintain their max velocity a larger % of a race, this is where you see Olympic caliber sprints.

Nobody is able to shift gears after around 70m in a 100m (at 200m guys aren't at 100% max prior to to curve), at this point now it's a long decelleration*** phase, the great ones decellerate at a slower pace, giving the illusion they are speeding up, nope, that isn't happening.

The great Tommie Smith who was world ranked in all three sprints and a 200/400 WR holder was the cat who was able to run longer before hiting his max, yep, a freak of nature. Usain Bolt also doesn't hit MV until later than everyone else, another freak.

*** the reason 100/200m cats run all those 300's, speed endurance is the most important factor in everythinhg other than an indoor 60.

You are assuming the greatest duration of acceleration occurs during the start.

And you are dead wrong because you know nothing about running or motion.
You have no Fckn idea what acceleration even means.

I will ask again.
During what part of a 200 m dash does the greatest duration of acceleration take place?

pgardn
01-12-2018, 08:52 PM
Thinking others need to share your interests is a sign of your stupidity. Bringing that here to a football forum another sign of...DUH~~~ Go to The Club and make a thead about that boring ass shit, watch how little play it will get, dude......nobody cares, ok?

I'm into the history of things that interest me, it's origins, who I need to know about, who/what was important. Trust me talking planets is moronic unless that is your line of work, it's not.

The first NFL season, the first blues on record, the great sprinters back on dirt tracks, football with a fullback, when the SWC/SEC started playing black players, the first Sci Fi novels, the origins of the Gothic novel, etc etc, couldn't care less about planets, ok?

I'll be starting a Robert E. Howard novel about a pirate, who did REH bring us (movies) and who is that pirate? Later today I'll be mixing some Louis Jordan, The Ink Spots. Wynonnie Harris, Leana Horne, give me three more that would fit, ok?

Try talking planets with anyone, watch how interested they aren't.

YOU turned football into track you frickn clown.
So back at you.
Answer the question above, you are still utterly wrong.

Avante
01-13-2018, 01:04 AM
You are assuming the greatest duration of acceleration occurs during the start.

And you are dead wrong because you know nothing about running or motion.
You have no Fckn idea what acceleration even means.

I will ask again.
During what part of a 200 m dash does the greatest duration of acceleration take place?

My God you're dumb, dude, the start is not peak acceleration ok stupid? Dummy, I was a sprinter, ok stupid? And there is no....one size fits all...ok stupid? Stubby (5-5) Mel Pender held world records at 50, 60 and 70m, he was not a 200m cat. The great Usain Bolt never runs the 60.

Pay attention moron.

We have long sprinters like Bolt, Tommie Smith, Herb McKenley, Henry Carr etc, and we have short sprinters like Lerone Clarke, Houston McTear, Herb Washington, some more 60-100 others more 200-400 with all of them at some level in a 100m.

Dude, nobody is at peak acceleration at the start, ok stupid?

Acceleration is so damn complex , hahahahahaha~~~~~~ Dude, you're retarded.

Dummy, talk planets ok retard, trust me you know nothing about sprinting, or football or music or.................................


Educate yourself moron, ok?
http://sportsscientists.com/2008/06/fastest-man-in-the-world/

Stupid, nobody has ever ran the first 100 of a 200 faster than the second, simply common sense ya fucking idiot.

Stupid, sprinters reach their max velocity somewhere around 60-70m in a 100m. then it's all spreed maintanence, speed endurance, ok dummy? Those who can hold on to a larger % of their max velocity are the ones who wins the races. Ya see stupid they are decellerating slower, I know......huh? Why do 100m sprinters run 300's in trining, yep, building that SE.

Stupid, sprint history is choked full of great 60 sprinters who had poor/weak speed endurance, so after 60m they quickly lost their MAX VELOCITY. They couldn't hold on, sustain, maintain, ok? Those who star at 200m are the ones who hit their MV later and have 400m type endurance, all the great 200m cats could run a stud 400m. The American record holder at 200m is also the American record holder at 400m, talking Michael Johnson. The world record 200m cat, Usain Bolt started out a 400m cat as a kid.

SPEED ENDURANCE....is the key that unlocks the door to sprinting, without it you run the 60.

Here ya go ya dumb fuck.

http://speedendurance.com/2009/08/21/usain-bolt-200-meter-splits-speed-reserve-and-speed-endurance/

pgardn
01-13-2018, 08:40 AM
My God you're dumb, dude, the start is not peak acceleration ok stupid? Dummy, I was a sprinter, ok stupid? And there is no....one size fits all...ok stupid? Stubby (5-5) Mel Pender held world records at 50, 60 and 70m, he was not a 200m cat. The great Usain Bolt never runs the 60.

Pay attention moron.

We have long sprinters like Bolt, Tommie Smith, Herb McKenley, Henry Carr etc, and we have short sprinters like Lerone Clarke, Houston McTear, Herb Washington, some more 60-100 others more 200-400 with all of them at some level in a 100m.

Dude, nobody is at peak acceleration at the start, ok stupid?

Acceleration is so damn complex , hahahahahaha~~~~~~ Dude, you're retarded.

Dummy, talk planets ok retard, trust me you know nothing about sprinting, or football or music or.................................


Educate yourself moron, ok?
http://sportsscientists.com/2008/06/fastest-man-in-the-world/

Stupid, nobody has ever ran the first 100 of a 200 faster than the second, simply common sense ya fucking idiot.

Stupid, sprinters reach their max velocity somewhere around 60-70m in a 100m. then it's all spreed maintanence, speed endurance, ok dummy? Those who can hold on to a larger % of their max velocity are the ones who wins the races. Ya see stupid they are decellerating slower, I know......huh? Why do 100m sprinters run 300's in trining, yep, building that SE.

Stupid, sprint history is choked full of great 60 sprinters who had poor/weak speed endurance, so after 60m they quickly lost their MAX VELOCITY. They couldn't hold on, sustain, maintain, ok? Those who star at 200m are the ones who hit their MV later and have 400m type endurance, all the great 200m cats could run a stud 400m. The American record holder at 200m is also the American record holder at 400m, talking Michael Johnson. The world record 200m cat, Usain Bolt started out a 400m cat as a kid.

SPEED ENDURANCE....is the key that unlocks the door to sprinting, without it you run the 60.

Here ya go ya dumb fuck.

http://speedendurance.com/2009/08/21/usain-bolt-200-meter-splits-speed-reserve-and-speed-endurance/


I am asking for SUSTAINED acceleration. You don't even know what acceleration means.

This requires the most force over a period of time for any runner putting in energy to run the 200 properly. You don't even know how to look something up because you have no Fckn clue about motion on a track. You say you read big books? Well you are reading the wrong big books. Mainly because you are a stupid memorizer who regurgitates facts. You can't think for yourself beyond a list. And I don't need your internet sites, this is basic motion. Very Basic physics. Uh oh.... shudder, shudder, no list...

And I never said people run the first part of a 200 faster than the 2nd half you twisted lying fool. You make things up to argue a point I never presented. But since YOU brought it up, explain it. You said it's common sense? Then explain it with your own words.

Then, Answer the original question: What part of the 200 m requires the longest sustained acceleration?

You turn so many threads into track trivia... and now you have it thrown back in your face on a deeper level and can't handle it. Explain without a list... This is so over.

pgardn
01-13-2018, 08:46 AM
Next we will entertain your other area of expertise.
Music.
Tell me when you want to tag out of the ring.
You have been in a headlock for quite a while and you are about to experience a track pile driver.

pgardn
01-13-2018, 09:39 AM
Big hint for Avante the expert. He likes lists, so tables should suit him fine. The question asked is a purely physical phenomenon. Getting the best view of competition, psychology of having to chase a runner down etc... does not matter IN MY QUESTION. Real track people could get this very quickly, but Avante got thrown off the only board he could have found the answer because in his own words basically "he knows too much"

http://i63.tinypic.com/nxf2g.jpg

Huge hint. But you need to have some basic knowledge of motion and running as well. They all run 200 m, but in very different ways. Same for the 400.

Avante
01-15-2018, 02:59 AM
Look at this idiot totally ignoring everything I just schooled the dummy with, wow~~~~

Obviously this clown knows..0...about sprinting.

pgardn
01-15-2018, 12:16 PM
Look at this idiot totally ignoring everything I just schooled the dummy with, wow~~~~

Obviously this clown knows..0...about sprinting.

You don't know.
Let me help.

The 400m dash would make for difficult viewing, so it's run around a track. There maybe some straight line courses, like there is for the mile. But for viewing, it's tracks.
The track has two large semicircles.


What necessarily happens on the semicircle(s) to ANY runner?

And you are very good at pointing out what you just pulled. Bravo!

Avante
01-15-2018, 01:20 PM
You don't know.
Let me help.

The 400m dash would make for difficult viewing, so it's run around a track. There maybe some straight line courses, like there is for the mile. But for viewing, it's tracks.
The track has two large semicircles.


What necessarily happens on the semicircle(s) to ANY runner?

And you are very good at pointing out what you just pulled. Bravo!


Craters, semicircles, motion....hahahahaha~~~~ Dude, are ya simply retarded?

I don't have a clue how a CD is actually made, ok.....IT'S ABOUT THE MUSIC.

Get with what is actually...interesting...ok ya boring fuck?

Take all this stupid shit to The Club, ok?

pgardn
01-15-2018, 01:34 PM
Craters, semicircles, motion....hahahahaha~~~~ Dude, are ya simply retarded?

I don't have a clue how a CD is actually made, ok.....IT'S ABOUT THE MUSIC.

Get with what is actually...interesting...ok ya boring fuck?

Take all this stupid shit to The Club, ok?

"When I want to know something about a particular topic I read EVERYTHING about it"
Bull fn Shit.

And he reads semicircle and panics...

Again, you said you know track yet you no nothing about running turns.
You are a total and utter FAKE.

All you can do is look up lists and times... 3... 2... 1
fetal position and listing...

Same question. What requires the most sustained acceleration and why does this have to be so?

You brought it up in the FB forum, now you get drug on the pavement of ignorance.

Avante
01-15-2018, 01:55 PM
"When I want to know something about a particular topic I read EVERYTHING about it"
Bull fn Shit.

And he reads semicircle and panics...

Again, you said you know track yet you no nothing about running turns.
You are a total and utter FAKE.

All you can do is look up lists and times... 3... 2... 1
fetal position and listing...

Same question. What requires the most sustained acceleration and why does this have to be so?

You brought it up in the FB forum, now you get drug on the pavement of ignorance.

You really are retarded aren't ya? Dude, I have no clue how to build a guitar, harnonica, piano...ok? Yet know all about the great guitarists, harmonica cats, piano players, ok stupid?

I know about every sprinter who was notable, everything that happens in the sport. Why they run in circles, how is a relay baton is made...???? Stupid, get with what is important and not stupid BS, ok?

I;ve already schooled ya on sprinting, key words.....SPEED ENDURANCE...ok? Only a 60 is about SE.

Stupid, talk about things that are interesting, stop with all this boring ass shit , ok?

you...so ya know about football?
Dude...yep.
you..ok, so how is a football made?
Dude....what? You're serious huh?
you...yep.

pgardn
01-15-2018, 09:51 PM
You really are retarded aren't ya? Dude, I have no clue how to build a guitar, harnonica, piano...ok? Yet know all about the great guitarists, harmonica cats, piano players, ok stupid?

I know about every sprinter who was notable, everything that happens in the sport. Why they run in circles, how is a relay baton is made...???? Stupid, get with what is important and not stupid BS, ok?

I;ve already schooled ya on sprinting, key words.....SPEED ENDURANCE...ok? Only a 60 is about SE.

Stupid, talk about things that are interesting, stop with all this boring ass shit , ok?

you...so ya know about football?
Dude...yep.
you..ok, so how is a football made?
Dude....what? You're serious huh?
you...yep.

They don't run in circles you dumb fuck. They run around an oval that has half circles and straight courses. And I did not ask you to build a track dumbass, I am getting the feeling you never even ran on one. Yet you were quite good at it? Then you tell me you don't know how to build musical instruments to weasel your way out. Ain't gonna happen.

Just answer the question. You still don't have a Fckn clue and keep going on about Speed endurance and 60 m dashes without any real understanding. We are talking about the 200 m which you are an expert on.

When you want to learn about something you want to know EVERYTHING about it.
You said, it not me. So be prepared to get squashed.
We come to find out you don't even know the very basics of something that interests you so much... track?

Do you want me to teach YOU about running around a turn? I thought you were well acquainted with it. Just say no, because you don't want to be embarrassed. It's ok. But know this, you are not only a liar, you are also a fake.

Avante
01-15-2018, 10:43 PM
They don't run in circles you dumb fuck. They run around an oval that has half circles and straight courses. And I did not ask you to build a track dumbass, I am getting the feeling you never even ran on one. Yet you were quite good at it? Then you tell me you don't know how to build musical instruments to weasel your way out. Ain't gonna happen.

Just answer the question. You still don't have a Fckn clue and keep going on about Speed endurance and 60 m dashes without any real understanding. We are talking about the 200 m which you are an expert on.

When you want to learn about something you want to know EVERYTHING about it.
You said, it not me. So be prepared to get squashed.
We come to find out you don't even know the very basics of something that interests you so much... track?

Do you want me to teach YOU about running around a turn? I thought you were well acquainted with it. Just say no, because you don't want to be embarrassed. It's ok. But know this, you are not only a liar, you are also a fake.

Trust me little man there is nothing you can teach me about anything. I assumed you were smart enought to get...running in circles...is like a QB throwing a bomb, he has a glass jaw, kicks like a mule, but you 're too damn dumb to get any of that.

I was a white cat with speed, started running track in meets in 6th grade. Ran in Jr High and four years of HS. I was a running back who kept gaining muscular weight, so there went any sprinter hopes, not too many 225 pound sprinters who are white. But that never dulled my love for speed, sprinting. I am an historian, yep, know it all when it comes to the who, what, where and when (just like football/music). You can't find anyone who knows more.

As far as actual sprinting goes, unless you have that ability to maintain a high % of your max velocity nothing else will really matter once you go beyond ndoor 60's. We run tons of over distance stuff like 300's, 400's, we do all we can to build endurance, all sprinters have speed, those with the superior SE are the ones who rule. Accelleration means nothing if once you hit your topend you can't sustain that MV. So you keep yakyakykak about the wrong things, yep...rookie. Dude, you don't understand any of this do ya, you're just some idiot with mental problems.

I can talk sprinters on a whole other level than anyone else, call it a hobby. Stupid, who follows this stuff to that degree and not get how it works, are ya really this damn stupid?

Pay attention moron.

The short cat is Mel Pender, he was a 50, 60, 70 indoor world record holder, as you will see he had a fantastic start and accelleration, notice he's in the lead early on. Then what happens, yep, he has inferior SE while all those around him are able to.......................decellerate at a slower pace. No no no, they aren't speeding up as it appears, that is an illusion, they are just able to bring more of their MV into the latter stages............longer.

You don't get any of this do ya slugger?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HgYxUDk1SU

pgardn
01-16-2018, 10:15 AM
Okay, I'll dumb it down more for you. I don't need a list or a video. I need an answer from a dumbass who claims to know EVERYTHING about track because he reads big books. The 200 m dash involves running. You know nothing about running. And if you ever get the following question correct, I will ask another on the same subject. This board, if it even cares, will continue to see what a pitiful fraud you are. You will continue to turtle up and go fetal position on the subject in your panic to avoid a very simple question.

In the 200 m and 400 m dash, when on the turns, what must all runners necessarily be able to do concerning acceleration?

Avante
01-16-2018, 09:18 PM
Okay, I'll dumb it down more for you. I don't need a list or a video. I need an answer from a dumbass who claims to know EVERYTHING about track because he reads big books. The 200 m dash involves running. You know nothing about running. And if you ever get the following question correct, I will ask another on the same subject. This board, if it even cares, will continue to see what a pitiful fraud you are. You will continue to turtle up and go fetal position on the subject in your panic to avoid a very simple question.

In the 200 m and 400 m dash, when on the turns, what must all runners necessarily be able to do concerning acceleration?

This....I;m just going to ignore everything ya ask.....ain't going to work, got it?

Pay attention

Mel Pender the short cat in that video was a fantastic indoor sprinter, a WR holder at 50/60/70. So tell me what are we looking at there at 100m? You don't have a clue do ya stupid?

Dude, you're boring as fuck, but ya know this, right?

Dude, until ya start answering what I'm asking your questions will be ignored, got it? Now tell me stupid what are we looking at in that video

And....talking accelleration in the 400m, hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~:rolleyes

Clipper Nation
01-16-2018, 10:40 PM
Holy shit, Avante's getting humiliated even more than usual in this thread. The so-called "track expert" can't answer basic questions about running :lol

Avante
01-16-2018, 10:49 PM
Holy shit, Avante's getting humiliated even more than usual in this thread. The so-called "track expert" can't answer basic questions about running :lol

Wrong as usual, do you ever get anything right? If ya understood sprinting (ya don't) you'd see me taking this clown to school. Dude....accelleration at 400m...hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Slow down stupid and actually pay attention to what is really going on here, ok? You make a habit of 'trying" to talk about things you know nothing about like QB's, now sprinting.

Dude, you're the one taking the Saints, bragging on Tom Savage, Joe Flacco, Derek Anderson not me. And over reacting to everything.

Avante
01-16-2018, 11:50 PM
Sprinting 101.

Starts and acceleration are like a Sumo wrestler being big. Without a burst and quick accelleration you are not a sprinter.

What matters in sprinting in conditioning, just speed alone will only take you about/maybe 70ish meters, now you will enter into a decelleration phase. How much of your max velocity (MV) can you sustain, maintain, this is the key to all sprinting (other than indoor 60's). SPEED ENDURANCE....is the key that unlocks the door. All the great 100m cats were also great at 200m, they had ....SPEED ENDURANCE.

The great Usain Bolt holds both world records at 19.19/9.58, yep....two times 9.58 equal...19.16, see how it works?

The 400m takes good 200m speed, a cat who can cook 20 low, the WR holder Wayde Van Neikerk runs a 19.84 200m. The American record holder Michael Johnson holds both the 200/400 records. Here we have the perfect speed and endurance combo.

Back before 1900 there was a cat named Lon Myers, he held the American record at....50, 100, 200, 400, 800 and the mile. Yep.....a freak of nature.

Cats who run the 100/200, train with 300's, everything is done to build that SE.




https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrSw7yL315akEYAUJo0nIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByZW c0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=tommie+smith+olympic+200m+youtube&vid=7eedcf8c3 8d11b57e03cdb3fc1f925ae&turl=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm .bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.TTjno57rjKJrurOrLhh5KAEs DP%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D207%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3 D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv % 3DCVFWEhqUAPw&tit=200m+men+final+1968+Smith+Tommie &c=0&h=207&w=300&l=36&sigr=11b8270tj&sigt=110i9 0hc 9&sigi=12rlenn11&age=1176054839&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3A v& fr=yhs-avg-fh_lsonsw&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw&hspart=avg&tt=b

Here we have the total package, the great Tommie Smith, he was world ranked in the 100m, the 200m and the 400m. He held the 200/400 WR's. His...speed endurance.....on a whole other level than anyone before him and only Bolt/MJhis equal afterwards. But....he did his thing in the late 60's. Look at that stride, look at his ability to maintain a huge % of MV.

In 1968 he ran anchor on a 4x1 vs our USA team, Jimmy Hines the Olympic 100m gold medalist to be on anchor. At the final exchange Hines had a solid two m on Smith, yep, ya guessed it........Smith ran him down, yep, superior....SPEED ENDURANCE.

Clipper Nation
01-17-2018, 12:26 AM
You make a habit of 'trying" to talk about things you know nothing about

Irony.

Avante
01-17-2018, 12:37 AM
Irony.

Give us an example of that, yep, ya can't. So why the bullshit?

Stick to, "HAHAHHA...he muffed the punt"......that says it all about your dumbass.

Funny

Avante...check out Scooter Jones, cat has some quicks.

(Scooter fumbles and ends up on the bench)

Clipper Nation....hahahahahahaha, oh hell yes, wrong again,

The very next week, Scooter rushes for 156 yards and scores three TD's, one on a dazzling 34 yard run.

No sign of Clipper Nation.

Dude, when will you ever learn how things work in sports? Stop acting like some retarded monkey over a game, a season, ok stupid, give things some fucking time,ok?

Bortles or somebody will do something stupid in the games this weekend, ya don't......HE SUCKS....over a play, but you will freak out like ya always do. Then later when Bortles or somebody....WOW~~~....now ya look stupid....ah...stupid-er.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 07:42 PM
During which part of the 200 m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place?

I basically gave you the answer 5 different times.
YOU claimed to know EVERYTHING about the things YOU love.
You said you knew all about sprinting, answer the question.
Its very basic for any type of running on a track, barring the 100 m dash. ( Another huge hint)

pgardn
01-17-2018, 08:01 PM
Facts: You can list names, times, use terms you think you understand.
But you don't understand some of the very basics of sprinting and running.
Answer the question above, it applies to anyone trying to sprint, from the best in the world, to a wannabe like you.

And you have illustrated you are scared to death to answer this because, you are a liar and a fraud. Which is why you got thrown off the track forum. They figured you out and banned your ass. This place, where they don't allow you to start posts, is your refuge.

Avante
01-17-2018, 08:02 PM
During which part of the 200 m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place?

I basically gave you the answer 5 different times.
YOU claimed to know EVERYTHING about the things YOU love.
You said you knew all about sprinting, answer the question.
Its very basic for any type of running on a track, barring the 100 m dash. ( Another huge hint)

What you can't seem to figure out is this is going to be you and me, not just me. I've asked you how many questions and you haven't even tried to answer any of them. So until you become a particpant, there will be nothing from me but a wait for you to start getting involved, got it?

I showed you a video of a GREAT sprinter who was limited, so talk to me about why the cat was not a multi talented sprinter, well?

I see a guy who knows...0....about sprinting, so ya keep it simple.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 08:08 PM
What you can't seem to figure out is this is going to be you and me, not just me. I've asked you how many questions and you haven't even tried to answer any of them. So until you become a particpant, there will be nothing from me but a wait for you to start getting involved, got it?

I showed you a video of a GREAT sprinter who was limited, so talk to me about why the cat was not a multi talented sprinter, well?

I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting. YOU claimed that once you got interested in something you read and learned everything about it. I, never made such a claim.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.

Give your answer.

Avante
01-17-2018, 08:22 PM
I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting. YOU claimed that once you got interested in something you read and learned everything about it. I, never made such a claim.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.

Give your answer.

Talked to me about the video, this..."I;m not going to do anything"...will not work, ok? Why is it a WR 50/60/70 sprinter was so beatable at 100m, well?

We aren't going to play .....I won't answer anything....bullshit, got it? What happened in that race, well?

Dude, you really can't tell I know sprinting/sprinters? Dude, I was a sprinter, ran everything from the 50 to the 4x4.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 09:28 PM
YOU claimed you knew everything about track. I'm asking YOU a SIMPLE question concerning track. I have claimed nothing except you are a liar and a fraud. Therefore I will attempt to show the board you are a charlatan. Because you know you are, you will not answer. So again:


I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.

Give your answer.

Avante
01-17-2018, 09:49 PM
YOU claimed you knew everything about track. I'm asking YOU a SIMPLE question concerning track. I have claimed nothing except you are a liar and a fraud. Therefore I will attempt to show the board you are a charlatan. Because you know you are, you will not answer. So again:


I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.

Give your answer.

Dude, you will not just ask questions, got it? You will get involved, ok? You ever think...how does he know about Mel Pender at all? How does he know every sprinter ever on an NFL team? How does he do that?

You will watch the video and answer my question, what are we seeing there, well?

And you are asking a stupid question for 200m and don't even know it.:rolleyes

pgardn
01-17-2018, 10:00 PM
YOU claimed you knew everything about track. I'm asking YOU a SIMPLE question concerning track. I have claimed nothing except you are a liar and a fraud. Therefore I will attempt to show the board you are a charlatan. Because you know you are, you will not answer. So again:


I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.

Give your answer.

I will ask the question, and as you keep avoiding the board will fully understand you are a fake.

YOU made the claim, you prove it to the board.

Avante
01-17-2018, 10:11 PM
YOU claimed you knew everything about track. I'm asking YOU a SIMPLE question concerning track. I have claimed nothing except you are a liar and a fraud. Therefore I will attempt to show the board you are a charlatan. Because you know you are, you will not answer. So again:


I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.

Give your answer.

I will ask the question, and as you keep avoiding the board will fully understand you are a fake. BUT....to talk accelleration at 200m is stupid.

YOU made the claim, you prove it to the board.

Whoa whoa whoa, didn't you say you were going to school me on sprinting? Now you won't answer anything, huh????

Dude, stop ignoring what your being asked, now tell me what do we see in that video. This...I just ask questions....will not work, got it?


Dude, EVERYBODY knows what acceleration is, so to say stupid shit like ya do, yep, won't work.

Stupid, when Michael Johnson won the 96 Olympics 200m with his outerwordly 19.32, he was leadng two sub 9.90 cats*** (MJ had a 10.09PR) coming off the curve, how and why did this happen?

Frankie Fredericks the Oly 100m silver, Ato Boldon the bronze ,both far "faster" than MJ.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 10:23 PM
YOU claimed you knew everything about track. I'm asking YOU a SIMPLE question concerning track. I have claimed nothing except you are a liar and a fraud. Therefore I will attempt to show the board you are a charlatan. Because you know you are, you will not answer. So again:


I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.



I will ask the question, and as you keep avoiding the board will fully understand you are a fake.

YOU made the claim, you prove it to the board.

And yes I will teach you about the 200 m and the 400 m, I will teach you things don't have a clue about. But I gotta start simple.

In order to learn you must admit what you don't know. Then I will prove what I claimed. And I will continue to prove this with questions and answers as I find out just what you don't know.

Answer the question.

Clipper Nation
01-17-2018, 10:25 PM
:lol Fake "track expert" can't answer simple track questions.

Avante
01-17-2018, 10:29 PM
YOU claimed you knew everything about track. I'm asking YOU a SIMPLE question concerning track. I have claimed nothing except you are a liar and a fraud. Therefore I will attempt to show the board you are a charlatan. Because you know you are, you will not answer. So again:


I am asking you a fundamental question about sprinting.

So now you have been put to a very simple test.

In what part of the 200m dash does the longest sustained acceleration take place. It must take place during one specific part of the race. Some 100 m guys don't do this well so they can't be good in the 200. But it can be learned and trained for.



I will ask the question, and as you keep avoiding the board will fully understand you are a fake.

YOU made the claim, you prove it to the board.

And yes I will teach you about the 200 m and the 400 m, I will teach you things don't have a clue about. But I gotta start simple.

In order to learn you must admit what you don't know. Then I will prove what I claimed. And I will continue to prove this with questions and answers as I find out just what you don't know.

Answer the question.

It works like this little guy.

WE..WE...can talk sprinting, ok? What WE aren't going to do is you do nothing. That will not work, we are not playing that, got it? I ask questions and you answer them if you plan on talking WITH me.....got it?

Watch the video (if ya don't we are done, this is your last chance) and talk to me about what we saw there? What happened?

Dude, there is nothing about sprinting I don't know, got that? I'm a huge fan of Bud Winter, Clyde Hart, Leo Davis, Payton Jordan, I know....who? All over that Baylor 400m situation,, remember UCLA and their 400m prowess? Talk to me about TCU and their sprint prowess.

Dude, talking acceleration in a 200m.....why?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 10:34 PM
We are discussing sprinting the 200 m.
You said you know everything about track.

During the 200 m dash there is a certain part of the race in which the longest continuous acceleration takes place.

Tell me where on the track this occurs?
I have already given you huge hints.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 10:37 PM
Posters that come and watch you struggle on this thread are enjoying it.

So keep avoiding the question.
I actually hope you get it correct because then more questions will follow.

Avante
01-17-2018, 10:39 PM
We are discussing sprinting the 200 m.
You said you know everything about track.

During the 200 m dash there is a certain part of the race in which the longest continuous acceleration takes place.

Tell me where on the track this occurs?
I have already given you huge hints.

Right there is the problem. You totally ignore what I;m saying, THAT...isn't going to be how we do this, got it? Now you either answer what I;m talking about or it's.....see ya?

I showed you a video of a great indoor sprinter in a 100m. What happened at around that 60ish m mark? I need an answer to prove you actually know this stuff, so far you've done nothing. Watch the video and answer my question, if ya don't......adios~~~

Avante
01-17-2018, 10:40 PM
Posters that come and watch you struggle on this thread are enjoying it.

So keep avoiding the question.
I actually hope you get it correct because then more questions will follow.

Actually posters coming here watching me talk sprinters, coachs, races while you do....0....can see who hasn't a clue.

I get the feeling you know nothing about sprinting at all. Do something to prove ya do, ok?

Dude, asking about acceleration is all ya got?

Been a subscriber to Track & Field News mag since 1966, now add this....

http://trackfield.brinkster.net/Main.asp?P=F

Stupid, who was the first sprinter to break 21.0 for 200m, yep, ya have no clue. It's right up there.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 10:51 PM
My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

so...

Answer the question.
Take the time as you said to bone up.
Because once you get it wrong you can learn something new about track in which NOBODY comes close to you.
You don't know certain things about track and acceleration it's very obvious. So follow your own credo above.

Or continue to be a lying sack of shit...

Avante
01-17-2018, 10:52 PM
Imagine a guy so damn dumb he really thinks a 5-5 sprinter who is far better at 60/100 than he is at 200m does anything like a 6-3 sprinter who runs a 43.76 4x4 split and more 100/200, hahaha~~~~

pgardn
01-17-2018, 10:55 PM
Nobody on this board even entertained what you just wrote.

Answer the question, you won't, because you don't even understand acceleration.

and remember Avante...

"My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do."

Clipper Nation
01-17-2018, 10:55 PM
Actually posters coming here watching me talk sprinters, coachs, races while you do....0....can see who hasn't a clue.

I get the feeling you know nothing about sprinting at all. Do something to prove ya do, ok?

Dude, asking about acceleration is all ya got?

Been a subscriber to Track & Field News mag since 1966, now add this....

http://trackfield.brinkster.net/Main.asp?P=F

Stupid, who was the first sprinter to break 21.0 for 200m, yep, ya have no clue. It's right up there.

Why can't you answer pgardn's question? Is Google not finding the answer for you?

Avante
01-17-2018, 10:56 PM
so...

Answer the question.
Take the time as you said to bone up.
Because once you get it wrong you can learn something new about track in which NOBODY comes close to you.
You don't know certain things about track, it's very obvious. So follow your own credo above.

Or continue to be a lying sack of shit...

Dude, I can ask you 20 questioins and you won't be able to answer any of them. Nobody here has a clue, I actually stump cats on track boards.

Wanna give it a shot?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:01 PM
My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

What part of the 200 m dash must necessarily require the longest continuous acceleration?

I can ask it a bunch of different ways. Would you like to see the chart again that could help you. You like lists. I got a few columns of numbers for you.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:01 PM
Why can't you answer pgardn's question? Is Google not finding the answer for you?

Do you really think I Google....

USC All time 100m

lane

1.Olympic 100m champ
2.Olympic 200m champ
3.Once ranked number one in the world
4.School 100m record holder
5.First WR 9.3
6.First WR 9.4
7.NCAA/USA champ in te same season
8.Second Trojan sub10.00

Now put a name by that.

Dude, I can do a 4x1 relay for all NFL tems, Google that...???

I want to talk sprinting with the guy, not be talked at. He hasn't shown me he can talk sprinting and until he does......................

Clipper Nation
01-17-2018, 11:02 PM
Do you really think I Google....

Yes, I do, since you can't seem to answer pgardn's basic questions.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:03 PM
Dude, I can ask you 20 questioins and you won't be able to answer any of them. Nobody here has a clue, I actually stump cats on track boards.

Wanna give it a shot?

And I can ask you 30 track questions you can't answer based on the fact you have no clue what acceleration even means.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:03 PM
What part of the 200 m dash must necessarily require the longest continuous acceleration?

I can ask it a bunch of different ways. Would you like to see the chart again that could help you. You like lists. I got a few columns of numbers for you.

I'd like for younto stop ignoring my questions. Show me something, anything thst proves you actually understand this stuff, so far...0.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:05 PM
My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

The above is yours not mine.

Answer the track question.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:05 PM
And I can ask you 30 track questions you can't answer based on the fact you have no clue what acceleration even means.

Dude, I was a RB, ok stupid? How many times does your dumbass think my coach...now accelerate thru the hole? Stupid.....I WAS A SPRINTER...OK? Dude, what is a football 40 all about......ACCELERATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Is this midget for real?

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:06 PM
The above is yours not mine.

Answer the track question.

Have you watched the video?

Clipper Nation
01-17-2018, 11:07 PM
Dude, I was a RB, ok stupid? How many times does your dumbass think my coach...now accelerate thru the hole? Stupid.....I WAS A SPRINTER...OK?

Liar.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:12 PM
Big hint for Avante the expert. He likes lists, so tables should suit him fine. The question asked is a purely physical phenomenon. Getting the best view of competition, psychology of having to chase a runner down etc... does not matter IN MY QUESTION. Real track people could get this very quickly, but Avante got thrown off the only board he could have found the answer because in his own words basically "he knows too much"

http://i63.tinypic.com/nxf2g.jpg

Huge hint. But you need to have some basic knowledge of motion and running as well. They all run 200 m, but in very different ways. Same for the 400.

Here ya go, again.


You see this Avante?

I will help you. A 10 second 100m is a world class time. It works out to a silly average of 10m/s. To make things easier for you, we will use this averarege. What is the acceleration given this average for each lane during the part of the race that requires the most continuous acceleration?

I can feel you sweat. I'll do it for you if you can't.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:13 PM
Liar.

Played from 6th grade (school teams) to my senior year, ran track a little earlier. I was a RB/cornerback, kick and punt returner, had great quicks for a white cat.

I started to grow in junior year which helped with my power but did nothing forv my straight line speed. Still had those quicks however.

I was 225 my senior season, started running over people, started looking for contact.

Played in three HS alumni games and 15 years City flag football.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:15 PM
Here ya go, again.


You see this Avante?

I will help you. A 10 second 100m is a world class time. It works out to a silly average of 10m/s. To make things easier for you, we will use this averarege. What is the acceleration given this average for each lane during the part of the race that requires the most continuous acceleration?

I can feel you sweat. I'll do it for you if you can't.

So you are trying to sell stride length and a sprinters SE as non factors in a 200?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:15 PM
Dude, I was a RB, ok stupid? How many times does your dumbass think my coach...now accelerate thru the hole? Stupid.....I WAS A SPRINTER...OK? Dude, what is a football 40 all about......ACCELERATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Is this midget for real?

Oh your coach told you what acceleration means.
Somwhat does it mean?

Clipper Nation
01-17-2018, 11:15 PM
Played from 6th grade (school teams) to my senior year, ran track a little earlier. I was a RB/cornerback, kick and punt returner, had great quicks for a white at.

I started to grow in junior year which helped with my power but did nothing forv my straight line speed. Still had those quicks however.

I was 225 my senior season, started running over people, started looking for contact.

Played in three HS alumnin games and 15 years City flag football.
More lies from the fatass who can't even answer a simple track question.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:18 PM
So you are trying to sell stride length and a sprinters SE as non factors in a 200?

You have no idea what you are talking about.
You don't need to know anything about stride length or turnover rate.

This is a simple question.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:20 PM
Oh your coach told you what acceleration means.
Somwhat does it mean?

Dude, I was giving you an example of how the word is used. When did..accelerate...become a mystery word, who doesn't get what that is?

You really think anyone doesn't get the word, really?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:21 PM
Dude, I was giving you an example of how the word is used. When did..accelerate...become a mystery word, who doesn't get what that is?

You really think anyone doesn't get the word, really?

I know you don't get the word.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:22 PM
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You don't need to know anything about stride length or turnover rate.

This is a simple question.

Dude, stride means everything at 200m as does turnover ratio, with speed endurance being the most important factor. All the accelration in the world doesn't matter (at 200m) without talking everything else into account. Dude, you really don't know this?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:25 PM
Dude, stride means everything at 200m as does turnover ratio, with speed endurance being the most important factor. All the accelration in the world doesn't matter (at 200m) without talking everything else into account. Dude, you really don't know this?

If you did not accelerate during the 200m during a certain part of the race I have mentioned (that you cannot answer apparently)?you would be DQed or never finish.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:26 PM
I know you don't get the word.

This is why everyone here sees you as a retard.

Stupid....start...accelerate...maintain max velocity....decelleration phase.

I know....huh?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:28 PM
. My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

You said this.

Im asking a very simple question.
Do you need the table again to give you a hint?

Then we can get down to the really interesting stuff.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:30 PM
If you did not accelerate during the 200m during a certain part of the race I have mentioned (that you cannot answer apparently)?you would be DQed or never finish.

Dude, there is no fear of any kind of anyone accelerating a high % of that distance so why say stupid shi tlike....or never finish?

Ypu must have missed.....sprinters reach their max velocity at around 65/70ish meters of a 100m sprint, then it's all about speed maintenance. Who can sustain that MV longer as they decellerate.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:32 PM
You said this.

Im asking a very simple question.
Do you need the table again to give you a hint?

Then we can get down to the really interesting stuff.

Do you need stride length and turnover ratio and Speed endurance explained to you again? Dude, there is no....one size fits all.....you can't be this stupid.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:33 PM
This is why everyone here sees you as a retard.

Stupid....start...accelerate...maintain max velocity....decelleration phase.

I know....huh?

When you maintain maximum velocity you are NOT accelerating you dumb shit.

When you start yes.
When you lose speed yes again, but you referred to in as decelerate, fine. You also used the word velocity so I'm proud of you.

Now back to the original question.

During what phase of the race is constant acceleration required over the longest period of time or distance in the 200 m?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:34 PM
Do you need stride length and turnover ratio and Speed endurance explained to you again? Dude, there is no....one size fits all.....you can't be this stupid.

No you don't for MY question you dumb fck, it is simpler than that, it's very basic.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:37 PM
Dude, there is no fear of any kind of anyone accelerating a high % of that distance so why say stupid shi tlike....or never finish?

Ypu must have missed.....sprinters reach their max velocity at around 65/70ish meters of a 100m sprint, then it's all about speed maintenance. Who can sustain that MV longer as they decellerate.

Yes there is dumb fck.
And its because you don't understand acceleration. You would be DQ AND never finish as I said. What phase of the race?

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:39 PM
When you maintain maximum velocity you are NOT accelerating you dumb shit.

When you start yes.
When you lose speed yes again, but you referred to in as decelerate, fine. You also used the word velocity so I'm proud of you.

Now back to the original question.

During what phase of the race is constant acceleration required over the longest period of time or distance in the 200 m?

Dude, well no shit. Stupid you actually thought I thought....ha~~~~ Dummy, there will come a time in every race where a sprinter has hit his....TOPEND...speed, yep........MAX VELOCITY...ok dummy? Now what? Now is where............SPEED ENDURANCE.....takes over, right there in that decelleration phase. The guys who can................maintain a larger % of that MAX VELOCITY are the ones who win the rsce ..IF...at the same level.

Yes, some HSer running a 10.78 vs a 9.87 World classer none of that matters, he's simply on a lesser level.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:41 PM
Yes there is dumb fck.
And its because you don't understand acceleration. You would be DQ AND never finish as I said. What phase of the race?

100% totally and completely as wrong as wrong can get. Dude, do you just not get acceleration in a 200m at all?

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:46 PM
Dude, well no shit. Stupid you actually thought I thought....ha~~~~ Dummy, there will come a time in every race where a sprinter has hit his....TOPEND...speed, yep........MAX VELOCITY...ok dummy? Now what? Now is where............SPEED ENDURANCE.....takes over, right there in that decelleration phase. The guys who can................maintain a larger % of that MAX VELOCITY are the ones who win the rsce ..IF...at the same level.

Yes, some HSer running a 10.78 vs a 9.87 WR none of that matters, he's simply on a lesser level.

You said maintain a % of maximum velocity? Maximum means Maximum you pile of vegetation! When you MAINTAIN velocity, you DO NOT ACCELERATE.

Back to the question.

And remember:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

You said this...

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:48 PM
100% totally and completely as wrong as wrong can get. Dude, do you just not get acceleration in a 200m at all?

No you don't you fool.

Look at the damn table, there is no number necessary now, we will get to that later.
THE TABLE IS A HUGE HINT TO THE ANSWER.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:50 PM
Stupid, pay attention.

Why do footballers run a 40, yep.....can they ACCELERATE ya dumb fuck. Who cares if the cat can run a 100m in 10.06, if it takes him forever to get up to max velocity. Which would be Carl Lewis. Footballers need quick acceleration, ok stupid?

Dummy, ya talk acceleration for a football 40, an indoor 60,the 100m, it's not too important at 200 or 400, ok dummy? Here it's more about speed with endurance, and that can come later in a race, so a zoooooooom accelertion phase, not a real important factor, I know ya don't get it.

Avante
01-17-2018, 11:53 PM
No you don't you fool.

Look at the damn table, there is no number necessary now, we will get to that later.
THE TABLE IS A HUGE HINT TO THE ANSWER.

Dude, according to the weight tables 6-2 275 pounds is fat, I'm anything but fat. Mr Olympia Franco Columbo was short and around 200 pounds of granite but according to the tables.....

Dude, do you get sprinting at all? Stupid, why do 400m cats with some 100m ability make the best 200m sprinters, well?

Anyone thinking a 5-6 sprinter with no 400m experience is the same as a 6-3 cat who runs a 45.7 400m in a 200m is one dumb mofo.

pgardn
01-17-2018, 11:58 PM
Stupid, pay attention.

Why do footballers run a 40, yep.....can they ACCELERATE ya dumb fuck. Who cares if the cat can run a 100m in 10.06, if it takes him forever to get up to max velocity. Which would be Carl Lewis. Footballers need quick acceleration, ok stupid?

Dummy, ya talk acceleration for a football 40, an indoor 60,the 100m, it's not too important at 200 or 400, ok dummy? Here it's more about speed with endurance, and that can come later in a race, so a zoooooooom accelertion phase, not a real important factor, I know ya don't get it.

You stupid fool.

If you did not accelerate in the 200 or 400 during very specific parts of the race that everyone is keenly aware of, you would be DQed and not finish the race.

And now another huge hint AGAIN.. add to the above even though you might actually run 200 or 400 meters.
Look at the table again! What is the table really about. Look at it for chrissakes!

And remember, you said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:06 AM
Dude, according to the weight tables 6-2 275 pounds is fat, I'm anything but fat. Mr Olympia Franco Columbo was short and around 200 pounds of granite but according to the tables.....

Dude, do you get sprinting at all? Stupid, why do 400m cats with some 100m ability make the best 200m sprinters, well?

Anyone thinking a 5-6 sprinter with no 400m experience is the same as a 6-3 cat who runs a 45.7 400m in a 200m is one dumb mofo.

WTF are you babbling about?

My question to you involves nothing above. I never mentioned or even stated any of the things you imply above. You are now in the mumbling humbled stage. Do you want me to show you the TRACK table again?

And you said this: Practice what you preach

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Avante
01-18-2018, 12:07 AM
You stupid fool.

If you did not accelerate in the 200 or 400 during very specific parts of the race that everyone is keenly aware of, you would be DQed and not finish the race.

And now another huge hint AGAIN.. add to the above even though you might actually run 200 or 400 meters.
Look at the table again! What is the table really about. Look at it for chrissakes!

And remember, you said:

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Dude, you told me this....I don't even look at your questions....right? Well that works both ways dummy. I told you we could talk sprinting but this wasn;t going to be you just asking questions. Now when you start answering my questions we'll share some sprint talk, see how that works?

Watch my video and tell me what you saw, until you do that fuck your chart I have yet to look at.

Dude, all sprinters are unique, ok stupid? Some are short and have that blitz start, some are tall and it takes awhile to switch gears, you do understand this, right?

Houston McTear oncr broke or tied seven indor WR's in seven meets, he had a zooooooooooooommmmm start and his acceleration was on a whole other level. BUT....he wasn't nearly as dominate at 100m ad never ever ran a 200m, so in your words what do we have here, well?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:11 AM
Dude, you told me this....I don't even look at your questions....right? Well that works both ways dummy. I told you we could talk sprinting but this wasn;t going to be you just asking questions. Now when you start answering my questions we'll share some sprint talk, see how that works?

Watch my video and tell me what you saw, until you do that fuck your chart I have yet to look at.

Dude, all sprinters are unique, ok stupid? Some are short and have that blitz start, some are tall and it takes awhile to switch gears, you do understand this, right?

All sprinters must accelerate during this phase of the 200 and 400

This has nothing to do with height, weight, rassln... ALL must accelerate during this phase, what is it?

And you said:

Do you want YOUR quote on track questions again liar?

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:12 AM
WTF are you babbling about?

My question to you involves nothing above. I never mentioned or even stated any of the things you imply above. You are now in the mumbling humbled stage. Do you want me to show you the TRACK table again?

And you said this: Practice what you preach

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Why are you doing everything but talking sprinting like I am? Do you simply not know anything?

Dude, show us something, everyone watching you is starting to think.....it's all Avante actually giving examples talking spinting, pgardn stuck on a table.

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:16 AM
All sprinters must accelerate during this phase of the 200 and 400

This has nothing to do with height, weight, rassln... ALL must accelerate during this phase, what is it?

And you said:

Do you want YOUR quote on track questions again liar?

Dude, are you really this damn stupid? Hell yes every track cat accelerates in every fucking race, ya reckon? I'm talking about..........IMPORTANCE.....ok stupid. Dude, how much of a 400m is about acceleration, well? Tell me stupid what really matters there? Dummy at 200m what is the most imnpetant aspect of that race do you have a clue?

Dude, are you really this dan dumb?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:16 AM
Why are you doing everything but talking sprinting like I am? Do you simply not know anything?

Dude, show us something, everyone watching you is starting to think.....it's all Avante actually giving examples talkimng spinting, pgardn stuck on a table.

During what part of the 200m race does the most extended period of acceleration occur?

So the above is not a track question because it's not a list?

Avante said:

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pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:19 AM
It's a very easy question if one knows what acceleration means.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:20 AM
When you maintain maximum velocity you are NOT accelerating you dumb shit.

When you start yes.
When you lose speed yes again, but you referred to in as decelerate, fine. You also used the word velocity so I'm proud of you.

Now back to the original question.

During what phase of the race is constant acceleration required over the longest period of time or distance in the 200 m?

Back to here for you.
Back to elementary school.
I gotta get you back to your own words:

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Avante
01-18-2018, 12:22 AM
During what part of the 200m race does the most extended period of acceleration occur?

So the above is not a track question because it's not a list?

Avante said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Dude, I have talked about all the important aspects of sprinting, you can't read? We have the start, then the acceleration phase then when a sprinter reaches his topend his max velocity now its speed endurabce as he starts to decellerate. What list?

Stupid, the reason Usain Bolt is the greatest sprinter ever is the foundation he laid as a kid. He started out a 400m cat, then he ran the 200m for years before ever coming to the 100m, yep, years of over distance training. So whrn he showed up in a 100m he possessed a whole other level of..............SPEED ENDURANCE.....his level totaly unique to 100m sprinting, then ya add his 6-5 stride.

List?

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:24 AM
It's a very easy question if one knows what acceleration means.

Coach.....good now accelerate thru the hole.
Avante (stopping to look at the coach)....accelerate?

Stupid...so a cat get out of the blocks....now what? Could it be.....he accelerates to a transition phase before reaching his top end/max velocity, ya reckon?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:30 AM
Dude, I have talked about all the important aspects of sprinting, you can't read? We have the start, then the acceleration phase then when a sprinter reaches his topend his max velocity now its speed endurabce as he starts to decellerate. What list?

Stupid, the reason Usain Bolt is the greatest sprinter ever is the foundation he laid as a kid. He started out a 400m cat, then he ran the 200m for years before ever coming to the 100m, yep, years of over distance training. So whrn he showed up in a 100m he possessed a whole other level of..............SPEED ENDURANCE.....his level totaly unique to 100m sprinting, then ya add his 6-5 stride.

List?

No you have not. In the 200 and the 400 you have missed the longest phases of acceleration. The places where runners must apply a constant overall force so they can accelerate. Because you don't know what acceleration means, you cannot answer the question. That's all I can conclude from your nonsense doing everything you can to get away from the question. And after you said the following, you have no shame; you are totally unreliable:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Yes lists.
Your go to when you go fetal.

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:32 AM
No you have not. In the 200 and the 400 you have missed the longest phases of acceleration. The places where runners must apply a constant overall force so they can accelerate. Because you don't know what acceleration means, you cannot answer the question. That's all I can conclude from your nonsense doing everything you can to get away from the question. And after you said the following, you have no shame; you are totally unreliable:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Yes lists.
Your go to when you go fetal.

100% WRONG~~~~~~~~~~~

Dude, are you really trying to tell me ALL sprinters run the 200/400 exactly the same, are you really this damn stupid?

Stupid, Kanas sprinter Cliff Wiley was tiny, 5-6ish around 135 pounds he ran a 44.7. Do you really think he ran the same race as the 6-6 Jason Rouser out of Oklahoma? Dude, are you realy this dumb?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:34 AM
Coach.....good now accelerate thru the hole.
Avante (stopping to look at the coach)....accelerate?

Stupid...so a cat get out of the blocks....now what? Could it be.....he accelerates to a transition phase before reaching his top end/max velocity, ya reckon?

Probably why you went Navy.
Did you listen to anyone else use the word and know they understood it?
or just coach because you had not reached this phase and still have not: this is yours buddy, you own it...

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:39 AM
Probably why you went Navy.
Did you listen to anyone else use the word and know they understood it?
or just coach because you had not reached this phase and still have not: this is yours buddy, you own it...

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Notice how this idiot never talks about actual sprinters? And he really thinks a track freak like me doesn't get acceleration, hahahahaha~~~~~~ Yep, a fucking retard.

Stupid, you cannot run any sprint race without an acceleration phase, ok stupid?

Stupid, can you talk the sport at all? Ya know Jesse Owens, Carl Lewis, Noah Lyles, Andre DeGrasse. Ya don'thave a clue do ya?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:39 AM
100% WRONG~~~~~~~~~~~

Dude, are you really trying to tell me ALL sprinters run the 200/400 exactly the same, are you really this damn stupid?

I am am telling you all sprinters must accelerate during this phase of the race. Yes ALL.
And you don't know what it is and are exasperated because you don't know what acceleration means.
You have used the words TIME and you used the word VELOCITY, so I assumed you understood acceleration. But you don't.

And you have the gall to say you try to,learn everything and can answer track question. No I don't know if you really understand running involves motion, I really don't. I have never seen anything like this. And yet you claim:

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Avante
01-18-2018, 12:45 AM
I am am telling you all sprinters must accelerate during this phase of the race. Yes ALL.
And you don't know what it is and are exasperated because you don't know what acceleration means.
You have used the words TIME and you used the word VELOCITY, so I assumed you understood acceleration. But you don't.

And you have the gall to say you try to,learn everything and can answer track question. No I don't know if you really understand running involves motion, I really don't. I have never seen anything like this. And yet you claim:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

So the 40 isn't about acceleration? Running backs don't accelerate thru the hole? Really?

Dude, I don't think you have a clue what acceleration means in sprinting. Sprinting involves motion.....hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And, hell no not all sprinters do anything exactly the same, ok stupid?

Did you really say....sprinting involves motion......hahahahaha~~~~~~ WELL NO SHIT.

I know gang, yep, we have a retard here

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:51 AM
So the 40 isn't about acceleration? Running backs don't accelerate thru the hole? Really?

Dude, I don't think you have a clue what acceleration means in sprinting.

And, hell no not all sprinters do anything exactly the same, ok stupid?

I never said anything about the 40, you did.

Yes, all sprinters must accelerate during this part or phase of the race, and it's an extended period and distance.
I asked you about the 200 m dash and the most obvious place in the race where acceleration must take place for the longest time and distance. The answer is one word, one F'N word, and you can't get it because you don't know what acceleration means.

And yep, below is you:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:52 AM
Ever notice the guy never talks sprinters. He knows nothing about the athlets which is the sport. Yep, he's boring as fuck.

Avante
01-18-2018, 12:54 AM
I never said anything about the 40, you did.

Yes, all sprinters must accelerate during this part or phase of the race, and it's an extended period and distance.
I asked you about the 200 m dash and the most obvious place in the race where acceleration must take place for the longest time and distance. The answer is one word, one F'N word, and you can't get it because you don't know what acceleration means.

And yep, below is you:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Stupid, answer a fucking question just once, ok? IS A 40 ABOUT ACCELERATION......answer the fucking question.

Why do coachs care about a 40? Yep, can the guy..................ACCELERATE.

Stupid, there are no 300 pound sprinters ok stupid? So why do the big guys even run a 40, yep........CAN HE ACCELERATE.

Dude, bi polar?

Stupid, without acceleration we don't have a sprint race, ok stupid?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 12:59 AM
Ever notice the guy never admits he does not know something about a subject he says the following about. And this concerns a very straightforward fundamental question I have given him pages of hints (psstttt; this is me mimicking how Avante addresses the board)

Do you feel good about saying this? Is this what produced a super salesman? Lying and deceit.

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:02 AM
Stupid, answer a fucking question just once, ok? IS A 40 ABOUT ACCELERATION......answer the fucking question.

Why do coachs care about a 40? Yep, can the guy..................ACCELERATE.

Stupid, there are no 300 pound sprinters ok stupid? So why do the big guys even run a 40, yep........CAN HE ACCELERATE.

Dude, bi polar?

Stupid, without acceleration we don't have a sprint race, ok stupid?

Sure.
Thats fine.

But you still don't get acceleration in the 200 or 400 because you don't know what acceleration means. And again, if we don't have acceleration in this phase of the race 200 or 400 by all the runners, they all DQ.
And you dare say this:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:05 AM
Ever notice the guy never admits he does not know something about a subject he says the following about. And this concerns a very straightforward fundamental question I have given him pages of hints (psstttt; this is me mimicking how Avante addresses the board)

Do you feel good about saying this? Is this what produced a super salesman? Lying and deceit.

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.




I have ran at least a 100 200m in my track days, (training and racing) there is nothing about that distance I don't know because I experienced it. I got faster once I started running more 400's in practice, as my endurance got better my times got faster.

Stupid, the least impotant phase of a 200m is the accelerstion phase., and if ya ever sprinted you know this, this is not the 100m.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:08 AM
Sure.
Thats fine.

But you still don't get acceleration in the 200 or 400 because you don't know what acceleration means. And again, if we don't have acceleration in this phase of the race 200 or 400 by all the runners, they all DQ.
And you dare say this:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Dude, are you really trying to sell acceleration is different in a 200m? And why even talk acceleration at 400m, it makes no sense.

Dude, your trolling aren;t you? Talking DQ's, not finishing races over acceleration.......hahahaha~~~~

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:10 AM
I have ran at least a 100 200m in my track days, (training and racing) there is nothing abouy thst distance I don't know because I experienced it. I got faster once I started running more 400's in practice, as my endurance got betere my times got faster.

Stupid, the least impotant phase of a 200m is the accelerstion phase., and if ya ever sprinted you know this, this is not the 100m.

Sorry.

If you did not accelerate during this phase of the 200 m race then you DQd. The reason you don't understand acceleration, even though you say time, velocity, and have been given hints all over is beyond stupid. You are frustrated and tired. And yet you had the lying conscience to say:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:13 AM
Dude, are you really trying to sell acceleration is different in a 200m? And why even talk acceleration at 400m, it makes no sense.

Dude, your trolling aren;t you? Talking DQ's, not finishing races over acceleration.......hahahaha~~~~

Of course it makes no sense to you.
You don't know what acceleration means.
That IS the problem here.

Through I don't know how many pages of hints and you still can't get it.

Andbyou said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:14 AM
Sorry.

If you did not accelerate during this phase of the 200 m race then you DQd. The reason you don't understand acceleration, even though you say time, velocity, and have been given hints all over is beyond stupid. You are frustrated and tired. And yet you had the lying conscience to say:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Dude, stomping around on a dumb fuck like you is anything but tiring and frustrating? I love showing off and showing everyone just how damn dumb you really are.

Do you know anything at all about sprinting, so far you haven't shown us shit.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:16 AM
I know enough about sprinting and motion to know you don know wtf acceleration means.

Even though you said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:18 AM
Of course it makes no sense to you.
You don't know what acceleration means.
That IS the problem here.

Through I don't know how many pages of hints and you still can't get it.

Andbyou said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Do you have a clue what acceleration means is the question here? I get the feeling you have't a clue.

Dude, Le'Veon Bell dances around behind the line, then when he finds a hole he.....accelerates thru it. You do get this, right?

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:19 AM
I know enough about sprinting and motion to know you don know wtf acceleration means.

Even though you said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

I don't think ya have a clue what acceleration means in sprinting, not a clue.

Stupid, who in the fuck talks about motion in sprinting, how damn dumb are you? What sport doesn't have motion?

Stupid, are you retarded?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:20 AM
Sure.

Actually you just gave a hint you might understand it.
Dances... What does that mean? Huge hint again. Huge.

AndAvante states

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:22 AM
I don't think ya have a clue what acceleration means in sprinting, not a clue.

Stupid, who in the fuck talks about motion in sprinting, howe damn dumb are you? What sport doesn't have motion?

Yeah good.
Fine.

Now if you really understood acceleration.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:25 AM
Sure.

Actually you just gave a hint you might understand it.
Dances... What does that mean? Huge hint again. Huge.

AndAvante states

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.
You talking about understanding it.....hahahaha~~~~ I get the feel you haven't a clue what acceleration means in sprinting.

Stupid, just how many kinds of acceleration are there, hahahaha~~~~~~~~

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:26 AM
Yeah good.
Fine.

Now if you really understood acceleration.

I get the feeling your idea is acceleration is not mine.

But...far FAR more to the sport of track than just acceleration.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:29 AM
Dude, bored with your stupidity now, ok?

Being this is a football forum talk to me about the fastest RB's ever, ok?

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:30 AM
You talking about understanding it.....hahahaha~~~~ I get the feel you haven't a clue what acceleration means in sprinting.

Stupid, just how many kinds of acceleration are there, hahahaha~~~~~~~~

Avante are you being STRAIGHT with me?

Man the hints I have given... I have never in my life met someone so intent on showing his stupidity. When you finally get the answer and I go back through and quote all the hints... Christ..
You said:


My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

I wish you a good sleep Avante. Poor bastard..

pgardn
01-18-2018, 01:34 AM
Dude, bored with your stupidity now, ok?

Being this is a football forum talk to me about the fastest RB's ever, ok?

You started the foolishness and basically asked to be stomped on. I've just strung it out. I was sure you would get it.
Cant wait to show you the next question after you figure out the longest duration and distance phase all 200 m MUST experience and apply force in a very differen manner than the 40, 60, or 100. More huge hints...

And goodnight. Maybe read some stuff because you said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:36 AM
Avante are you being STRAIGHT with me?

Man the hints I have given... I have never in my life met someone so intent on showing his stupidity. When you finally get the answer and I go back through and quote all the hints... Christ..
You said:


My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

I wish you a good sleep Avante. Poor bastard..

Just as I suspected this guy hasn't a clue what acceleration meads in sprinting. I was trying to get this idiot to talk some real sprinting it took awhile to figure out he knows nothing about it.

Yep, a fucking retard.

Clipper Nation
01-18-2018, 01:37 AM
Ever notice the guy never talks sprinters. He knows nothing about the athlets which is the sport. Yep, he's boring as fuck.

:cry "I can't answer his simple questions so.... um... uh... h-he's boring! Yeah, that'll convince everyone I'm not losing!" :cry

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:41 AM
You started the foolishness and basically asked to be stomped on. I've just strung it out. I was sure you would get it.
Cant wait to show you the next question after you figure out the longest duration and distance phase all 200 m MUST experience and apply force in a very differen manner than the 40, 60, or 100. More huge hints...

And goodnight. Maybe read some stuff because you said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Dude, asking a stupid question that ya don't even understand is stomping, hahahaha~~~~

Dude, did you just say....the longest duration and distance phase all 200m MUST experience? Dummy this is a 200m race, now think ya dumb fuck, yes it's not the 40, 60 or a 100. Yep, this cat is retarded. Will a longer race be different, well no shit stupid.

Avante
01-18-2018, 01:44 AM
:cry "I can't answer his simple questions so.... um... uh... h-he's boring! Yeah, that'll convince everyone I'm not losing!" :cry

Dude, do you who knows nothing about sprinting understand the word.....acceleration? Of course ya do we all do. Who would tell anyone...you don't know what aceleration means? What does that tell us about this freak, well?

The guy knows nothing about sprinting.

Dude, you are always....you Googled that....right? Do you think if I didn't know something I'd not find it? Hell, I could just ask one of the posters on the sprint boards I hang at, tons of coachs there.

Hell....

https://kilbarchanaac.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/acceleration_and_blocks_mechanics.pdf


The guy is asking stupid questions, he's trolling, ok?

Dude....

Acceleration is the rate at which the speed of an object is changing. Acceleration takes place the first 0-30 meters or to about 3-4 seconds from the start of a sprint. After approximately 30 meters acceleration turns into maximum velocity and top speed is hit.




Isn't that what I've been saying? In a 200m ya have "reserved speed" which means ya spread it out more, ya don't want to shoot your wad too soon in a 200m. What the idiot is talking about is stupid.

In a world class 200m we'll have some 100/200 cats in there with 200/400 guys, anyone thinking things aren't different for the two groups is a dummy. When MJ ran his amazing 19.32 in 96 he knew he could blast the curve, why didn't Boldon/Fredericks go with him they had more sprint speed? MJ was the Oly 400m chap, he knew his speed with endurance would be way too much for any 100/200 cat. See how it works? MJ just a 10.09 100m cat, Boldon and Fredericks at 9.86.

I get the feeling the idiot was talking about the start, I did assume he wasn't this damn dumb to think that had to be explained to anyone.

This is what happens when the greatest 400m sprinter in history meets up with a couple Olympic medalists in a 100m at 200m.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEh7hDpGp0


He smashed his own WR of 19.66, totally destroyed it. That was some 20ish years ago, no American has ever broke 19.57 much less 19.40 but MJ. Yep, a freak.

All-time men's best 200m



1 19.19 -0.3 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Berlin 20.08.2009
2 19.26 +0.7 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1 Bruxelles 16.09.2011
3 19.30 -0.9 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Beijing 20.08.2008
4 19.32 +0.4 Michael Johnson USA 13.09.67 1 Atlanta 01.08.1996
4 19.32 +0.4 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 London 09.08.2012
6 19.40 +0.8 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Daegu 03.09.2011
7 19.44 +0.4 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 2 London 09.08.2012
8 19.53 +0.7 Walter Dix USA 31.01.86 2 Bruxelles 16.09.2011
9 19.54 ±0.0 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1 Bruxelles 07.09.2012
10 19.55 -0.1 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Beijing 27.08.2015
11 19.56 -0.8 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Kingston 01.05.2010
12 19.57 ±0.0 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Bruxelles 04.09.2009
12 19.57 +0.4 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1 Eugene 28.06.2015

Avante
01-18-2018, 03:04 AM
I do have my fun with all this, it's funny watching how people act when around someone who knows all this stuff, yep, comical.

Been into track since the late 50's, can talk about sprinters nobody on track boards have ever heard of. I do get a kick out of..."I'll show him"...but thery never do.

I can still hear...he is the fastest player in the AFL....when taking about Blufton's Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion a Buffalo Bill receiver.

Elbert Dubenion
http://buffalosportshallfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/elbertdubenion1.jpg (http://buffalosportshallfame.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/elbertdubenion.jpg)
Buffalo Bills Wide Receiver
In 1960, a free agent from little Blufton College joined the Buffalo Bills to try and make the team as a flanker back, today’s equivalent of a wideout or wide receiver. His name was Elbert Dubenion. At 5-11 and 187 pounds, he possessed tremendous speed, great hands and excellent skills as a runner. It did not take long for Dubenion to become a crowd favorite. An exciting receiver, especially after making the catch, he was fun to watch. Before long, the fans were fondly calling him “Duby” or “Golden Wheels” in tribute to his sensational speed.
As a rookie, Dubenion quickly proved his worth. He scored seven touchdowns and racked up 752 receiving yards on 42 catches, a 17.9 yards per catch average. In addition he ran the ball 16 times for 94 yards and one touchdown, a 5.6 yards per carry average. The following season defensive backs paid him much greater respect. So, facing tighter and deeper coverages, he upped his production as a runner, rushing for 173 yards and one touchdown on just 17 carries, a 10.3 per carry average. In addition, he had 31 catches for 461 yards and six touchdowns.
In 1964, Duby enjoyed one of the most sensational seasons of any receiver in pro football history, 10 touchdowns and 27.1 yards per catch on 42 receptions for a total of 1,139 yards, all in a 14 game season. In nine seasons, he racked up 296 receptions for 5,424 yards and 36 touchdowns for a career average of 18.3 yards per catch. He also rushed for 360 yards and three touchdowns on just 48 carries, a career average of seven yards per carry. By the time he retired in 1968, Duby had set virtually every receiving record in the early “glory years” when the Bills reigned as one of the premier teams in the American Football League. A man of great humor, he also retired as one of the team’s most popular players.
Golden Wheels’ importance to the Bills cannot be measured in purely statistical terms. He joined the team when the AFL was a shaky league struggling through it’s infancy. Dubenion was the first great star in the franchises’ formative years, the first player the fans could hang their hat on. His exciting play helped the Bills and the AFL become viable. And, through it all, he maintained his humility and his great sense of humor. He was not only a great player, but one of the true gentlemen of the game.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 07:50 AM
Dude, asking a stupid question that ya don't even understand is stomping, hahahaha~~~~

Dude, did you just say....the longest duration and distance phase all 200m MUST experience? Dummy this is a 200m race, now think ya dumb fuck, yes it's not the 40, 60 or a 100. Yep, this cat is retarded. Will a longer race be different, well no shit stupid.

Yep.

And part of the reason it's so different is we know exactly where and for what distance the athlete MUST accelerate you dumb shit. There is a reason I used the 40, 60, and the 100 as a comparison, and no it's not distance for this question. Again another huge hint.

Where during the 200m sprint must all runners accelerate for a sustained period of time for a known distance? It's a one word answer. Answer this question instead of trying to hide your shame with more lists and videos.

And you said:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

And then follow it with:

I do have my fun with all this, it's funny watching how people act when around someone who knows all this stuff, yep, comical.


You are going to face humiliation. The board will see it in these pages. I will use it when you claim the above.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 08:17 AM
A thought question for Avante in addition to what he has failed to answer.

Could you run the 200 m at a constant speed? It's not a race, you can jog if you want. You could already be moving when hitting the starting line. I could run a 200 at a fairly constant speed, could you? Another hint.

Trying to find a way around his knowledge impass...

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 05:03 PM
A thought question for Avante in addition to what he has failed to answer.

Could you run the 200 m at a constant speed? It's not a race, you can jog if you want. You could already be moving when hitting the starting line. I could run a 200 at a fairly constant speed, could you? Another hint.

Trying to find a way around his knowledge impass...
hints to avante: you could run the 200 at a constant speed (assuming you were already moving when hitting the starting line). but you physically could not run the 200 at a constant velocity. acceleration deals with velocity.

Blake
01-18-2018, 05:08 PM
Give us an example of that, yep, ya can't. So why the bullshit?


Gambling.

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 05:25 PM
Gambling.
Blues

pgardn
01-18-2018, 07:48 PM
hints to avante: you could run the 200 at a constant speed (assuming you were already moving when hitting the starting line). but you physically could not run the 200 at a constant velocity. acceleration deals with velocity.

Bingo!
And he used the word velocity and speed separately so I thought he would understand. I dug in and tried, pages and pages of trying. Not giving the answer just lots of hints.

So maybe you can help me help him..

Or maybe you already understand the futility.

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 07:50 PM
Bingo!
And he used the word velocity and speed separately so I thought he would understand.

So maybe you can help me help him..

Or maybe you already understand the futility.
no it's fun watching him squirm instead of just saying "i dont know"... which would be completely understandable as he hasn't been near a physics textbook since he was younger than his olongapo partners

Clipper Nation
01-18-2018, 07:57 PM
It's also understandable because he's not really a track expert.

pgardn
01-18-2018, 07:59 PM
Big hint for Avante the expert. He likes lists, so tables should suit him fine. The question asked is a purely physical phenomenon. Getting the best view of competition, psychology of having to chase a runner down etc... does not matter IN MY QUESTION. Real track people could get this very quickly, but Avante got thrown off the only board he could have found the answer because in his own words basically "he knows too much"

http://i63.tinypic.com/nxf2g.jpg

Huge hint. But you need to have some basic knowledge of motion and running as well. They all run 200 m, but in very different ways. Same for the 400.

I gave him this. I went even further and have a simple little spread sheet to illustrate an interesting conundrum concerning lane choice. (Not posted yet) We were eventually going there to discuss what he thinks, but could not get past acceleration.
And he said why the hell was I talking about semicircles? Like wtf? It's right in his face...

But I will remain diligent and positive in my attitude. :)

Avante
01-18-2018, 10:02 PM
It's also understandable because he's not really a track expert.

Well when you can talk 100% of all of the sprinters of note....ever.....yep, expert. When you can talk 100% of every football/sprinter...ever...yep, expert.

As far as actual sprinting goes it's not complex, it's actually very simple.

Reaction to the gun which is the start....acceleration...transition to topend/max velocity....maintain that MV as long as ya can (speed endurance) then the decelleration phase. World class sprinters reach their MV around 65-70m, then it's all about delleration as slowly as possible (speed endurance).

All that silly shit our resident idiot is talking about means...0. And it's boring as fuck.

The key is building your speed endurance, if a sprinter isn't capable of sustaining his MV he will be a loser. The great Usain Bolt doesn't reach his MV until 70ish and he loses a very small % of that topend, he has superior SE.

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 10:13 PM
we all know you can recite lists dude. but do you know where the longest sustained acceleration is required in the running of the 200?

Avante
01-18-2018, 10:28 PM
we all know you can recite lists dude. but do you know where the longest sustained acceleration is required in the running of the 200?

It goes ike this....

Acceleration phase 0 – 50m, maximum speed/max velocity/topend phase 50 – 150m and a decceleration phase 150 – 200m. Obviously it varies a little for the individuals involved.

In a 200m we have "speed reserve" something we don't see at 100m. See that 50-150, that is way too long at MV, but, it's not actually MV, sprinters are holding back a little bit because they need something to bring home.

Obviously acceleration is the key in a 40/60, while less important at 200/400.

The 100m the race where all aspects of sprinting are equally important.

Stride lenght, a major factor in a 200/400, not so much in a 100m and it's better to be short at 60m.

When Wilt Chamberlain was in a Philly HS he high jumped and ran the 400m, what a sight that must have been.

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 10:49 PM
If you think the longest sustained acceleration is the beginning portion you are dead wrong

Avante
01-18-2018, 11:02 PM
If you think the longest sustained acceleration is the beginning portion you are dead wrong

Do you not understand just how long we have acceleration before entering the transition phase to the max velocity phase? Well?

Sprinters begin to accelerate right out of the blocks, do you really think they re-accelerate?

NOBODY....is accelerationg for very long before entering the transition phase, you do get this, right?

Start, accelerate, transition phase, max velocity, decelleration. Trust me you do not revisit a phase, ok?

Chucho
01-18-2018, 11:15 PM
I'm going to pgardn and spurraider21 for my track insight from now on. They just showed the most keen knowledge I've ever seen demonstrated on this board. And they are both aware and knowledgeable on Barbados Slim.

Clipper Nation
01-18-2018, 11:24 PM
Well when you can talk 100% of all of the sprinters of note....ever.....yep, expert. When you can talk 100% of every football/sprinter...ever...yep, expert.

No, it just means you can use Google. An expert would have been able to correctly answer pgardn's question right away.

Avante
01-18-2018, 11:27 PM
I'm going to pgardn and spurraider21 for my track insight from now on. They just showed the most keen knowledge I've ever seen demonstrated on this board. And they are both aware and knowledgeable on Barbados Slim.

Dude, now think, ok? Just how long does any sprinter accelerate before reaching their max velocity? AND....it's not accelerate...WHAM...max velocity. there is a ...transition....phase, ok?

Dude, if you wannsa talk what really matters in the sport which is the athletes, you will get....huh???....from both pgardn and Spurraider, they haven't a clue.

Avante
01-18-2018, 11:30 PM
No, it just means you can use Google. An expert would have been able to correctly answer pgardn's question right away.

What, and miss my fun?

Dude, I saw my first Olympics in 1960***, started subscribing to Track & Field News mag in 1966, there is nothing Google can help me with ok?

When the great Jimmy Hines (first sub 10.00 sprinter, Oly champ) he ran on a stud 4x1 team at Texas Southern, so who was on that team? Here's what is goiing to happen, some silly bullshit s ya fail to answer the question. Why not Google it, yep....like everybody, too damn lazy.

*** Christian McCaffrey's grandpa Dave Sime the top American sprinter, he won the silver in the 100m and is still considerred one of the two/three fastest white Americans ever.

Chucho
01-18-2018, 11:46 PM
Dude, now think, ok? Just how long does any sprinter accelerate before reaching their max velocity? AND....it's not accelerate...WHAM...max velocity. there is a ...transition....phase, ok?

Dude, if you wannsa talk what really matters in the sport which is the athletes, you will get....huh???....from both pgardn and Spurraider, they haven't a clue.

Look, man, I go to where the info is proper and correct. That's P n 21. But I still think you could whoop Fabbs in a fist fight, so you have my support there.

Avante
01-18-2018, 11:51 PM
Look, man, I go to where the info is proper and correct. That's P n 21. But I still think you could whoop Fabbs in a fist fight, so you have my support there.

You will NEVER EVER think/talk...acceleration at 200m.....ya see, nobody cares. It's simply one aspect of sprinting. Yep...boring as fuck.

Now when ya wanna know about the athletes who make the sport exciting, try asking those two anything, yep, clueless.

And, I could whip anyone who posts here, trust me.

And, see nobody will ever take the time to Google anything.

Dude, when Hines was on that stud Texas Southern 4x1 team, So U their main rival who ran who on their stud 4x1 team?

See ya won't Google shit.

How do I know this stuff, yep, the pages of Track & Field News. No Google, just mags, books, experience.

Avante
01-18-2018, 11:58 PM
this thread got real boring real fast

I totally agree, only some boring fuck is talking ....acceleration....hahahaha. Yep...sprinters do accelerate, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Your Oilers had some stud sprinters....

Charles Frazier and Ken Burrough out of Texas Southern

Herkie Walls and Tony Jones out of Texas.

Chucho
01-19-2018, 12:02 AM
You will NEVER EVER think/talk...acceleration at 200m.....ya see, nobody cares. It's simply one aspect of sprinting. Yep...boring as fuck.

Now when ya wanna know about the athletes who make the sport exciting, try asking those two anything, yep, clueless.

And, I could whip anyone who posts here, trust me.

And, see nobody will ever take the time to Google anything.

Dude, when Hines was on that stud Texas Southern 4x1 team, So U their main rival who ran who on their stud 4x1 team?

See ya won't Google shit.

How do I know this stuff, yep, the pages of Track & Field News. No Google, just mags, books, experience.

If you ask me to find something, I already told you who I'll ask.

spurraider21
01-19-2018, 12:15 AM
Do you not understand just how long we have acceleration before entering the transition phase to the max velocity phase? Well?

Sprinters begin to accelerate right out of the blocks, do you really think they re-accelerate?

NOBODY....is accelerationg for very long before entering the transition phase, you do get this, right?

Start, accelerate, transition phase, max velocity, decelleration. Trust me you do not revisit a phase, ok?
i'll spill the beans. the longest sustained acceleration is done during the curve

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:17 AM
If you ask me to find something, I already told you who I'll ask.

See, nobody ever actually Googles anything. I simply have over 55 yers of experience.

Dude, ask them anything about the athletes involved and see what happens, yep....nothing.

And, if you think anyone is actually accelerating a large % of a 200m, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:18 AM
You still can't get it and it's staring you right in the face!

I gave you huge clues. But this stuff, you gotta know. And you don't.

And you had the absolute lying nerve to state:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.


Eventually I will have to explain it to you. And then when I ask the next question, you will actually be given the opportunity to express creativity, if you have it, to really think about track and especially the 200 and 400.
You tread in really shallow water. You can be pulled in deeper. Think on it. Have a good evening. Then you might actually get closer to what you claim. More likely your stubbornness and ignorance will not let you. The board will see for itself.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:19 AM
i'll spill the beans. the longest sustained acceleration is done during the curve

Did you not see...0-50? Dude, how many meters do these cats run before the curve, now think? And, ya do know we have the 200m straight, right?

spurraider21
01-19-2018, 12:21 AM
Did you not see...0-50? Dude, how many meters do these cats run before the curve, now think? And, ya do know we have the 200m straight, right?
in a 200m straight, you'd be correct.

but it isn't run straight in the olympics anymore. on a regular track, the longest sustained acceleration is during the curve

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:21 AM
You still can't get it and it's staring you right in the face!

I gave you huge clues. But this stuff, you gotta know. And you don't.

And you had the absolute lying nerve to state:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.


Eventually I will have to explain it to you. And then when I ask the next question, you will actually be given the opportunity to express creativity, if you have it, to really think about track and especially the 200 and 400.
You tread in really shallow water. You can be pulled in deeper. Think on it. Have a good evening. Then you might actually get closer to what you claim. More likely your stubbornness and ignorance will not let you. The board will see for itself.

Dude, 0-50 is acceleration in a 200m, if you don't get this it wouldn't surprise me. The 400m is a wholeother beast.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:22 AM
See, nobody ever actually Googles anything. I simply have over 55 yers of experience.

Dude, ask them anything about the athletes involved and see what happens, yep....nothing.

And, if you think anyone is actually accelerating a large % of a 200m, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~

When I get through with you, you will see exactly what % a runner MUST accelerate.
If you choose to.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:23 AM
in a 200m straight, you'd be correct.

but it isn't run straight in the olympics anymore. on a regular track, the longest sustained acceleration is during the curve

Dude, how many meters do spinters run before the curve? See my 0-50?

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:23 AM
Dude, 0-50 is acceleration in a 200m, if you don't get this it wouldn't surprise me. The 400m is a wholeother beast.

Wrong.
Just dead wrong.

You our still don't know what acceleration means.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:24 AM
When I get through with you, you will see exactly what % a runner MUST accelerate.
If you choose to.

That simply doesn't exist. No two sprinters are the same, you do understand this, right?

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:24 AM
Dude, how many meters do spinters run before the curve? See my 0-50?

You are right on it but you don't see it because you don't know what acceleration means.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:26 AM
Wrong.
Just dead wrong.

You our still don't know what acceleration means.

Nope, totally 100% nailed it. You are confusing the transition phase with acceleration and it's totally obvious.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:27 AM
That simply doesn't exist. No two sprinters are the same, you do understand this, right?

Again.

ALL SPRINTERS must accelerate in the 200m as it is run on a track. Even if they hit the starting line moving at a constant speed. This is a FACT.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:28 AM
You are right on it but you don't see it because you don't know what acceleration means.

An increase or degrease in velocity is acceleration, who doesn't know that?

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:29 AM
Nope, totally 100% nailed it. You are confusing the transition phase with acceleration and it's totally obvious.

No.

Dead wrong.
You don't know what acceleration means.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:29 AM
Again.

ALL SPRINTERS must accelerate in the 200m as it is run on a track. Even if they hit the starting line moving at a constant speed. This is a FACT.

Dude, ALL SPRINTERS must start, accelerate, transition, hit topend , decellerate. This is sprinting.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:30 AM
No.

Dead wrong.
You don't know what acceleration means.

Do you?

Chucho
01-19-2018, 12:30 AM
You still can't get it and it's staring you right in the face!

I gave you huge clues. But this stuff, you gotta know. And you don't.

And you had the absolute lying nerve to state:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.


Eventually I will have to explain it to you. And then when I ask the next question, you will actually be given the opportunity to express creativity, if you have it, to really think about track and especially the 200 and 400.
You tread in really shallow water. You can be pulled in deeper. Think on it. Have a good evening. Then you might actually get closer to what you claim. More likely your stubbornness and ignorance will not let you. The board will see for itself.

THIS is why he is a certifiable expert.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:31 AM
An increase or degrease in velocity is acceleration, who doesn't know that?

Excellent.

Thats correct. But that is only PART of how one can accelerate.
What does velocity mean?

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:33 AM
THIS is why he is a certifiable expert.

Ask him something about sprinters then, watch what ya don't get.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:36 AM
Do you?

Yes.

If I did not I would just simply state "I don't Know"
But you can't do this. You won't see me pretending to know all the shit they talk about in the Tech section and gaming systems because I don't know that stuff. It's very simple not to lie. But when you do lie, because people know more than you, and they KNOW you don't know... You weave your own web that tangles you and catches you.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:39 AM
Excellent.

Thats correct. But that is only PART of how one can accelerate.
What does velocity mean?


Dude, I assumed that was simply understood. Why you'd even ask a stupid question like that had me...???? I was looking for some trick.

Ok, I answered that dumb question now it's your turn to answer a question, yep, this is how grown ups converse.

The fundamentals of sprinting are about as interesting as talking guitars insted of Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, SRV...ok?

So when the SEC started bringing in black sprinters who were the first to make Olympic teams and break WR's. I find this aspect of track far more entertaining that....acceleration, max velocity, deceleration, speed endurance, etc.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:40 AM
Ask him something about sprinters then, watch what ya don't get.

I just told you about what all sprinters must do in the 200 and the 400.

If you wanna go into the best sprinter ever in the 200 out of Comfort,Texas, I'm gonna have to look that up. I'm have been, in this entire mess you have created for yourself, always stuck to talking about running and motion. Nothing more.
What have you claimed:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

So back it the fck up.
Or shut up.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:41 AM
Yes.

If I did not I would just simply state "I don't Know"
But you can't do this. You won't see me pretending to know all the shit they talk about in the Tech section and gaming systems because I don't know that stuff. It's very simple not to lie. But when you do lie, because people know more than you, and they KNOW you don't know... You weave your own web that tangles you and catches you.

What? We all know what accelration is, so what are you talking about? My problem was trying to figure out why anyone would ask such a stupid question.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:43 AM
Dude, I assumed that was simply understood. Why you'd even ask a stupid question like that had me...???? I was looking for some trick.

Ok, I answered that dumb question now it's your turn to answer a question, yep, this is how grown ups converse.

The fundamentals of sprinting are about as interesting as talking guitars insted of Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, SRV...ok?

So when the SEC started bringing in black sprinters who were the first to make Olympic teams and break WR's. I find this aspect of track far more entertaining that....acceleration, max velocity, deceleration, speed endurance, etc.

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.




There is no trick if you know what acceleration and velocity means.
Spurraider entered on his own an immediately nailed it. He's a frkn law grad. He did not claim the above and neither did I.

You did.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:45 AM
I just told you about what all sprinters must do in the 200 and the 400.

If you wanna go into the best sprinter ever in the 200 out of Comfort,Texas, I'm gonna have to look that up. I'm have been, in this entire mess you have created for yourself, always stuck to talking about running and motion. Nothing more.
What have you claimed:

My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

So back it the fck up.
Or shut up.

Dude, what mess? I broke it all down for yoiu, you can't read?

Now you are getting weak and loking more and more ridiculous.

Tell me who the greatest HS 200m sprinter was in the state of Texas, well?

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:46 AM
My knowledge comes from my interest in the things I talk about. Who doesn;'t bone up on what they care about? still subscribe to Track & Field News (since 66). I can answer questions NOBODY...comes remotely close to answering them. First off nobody will ever take the time needed, second off I'd ask in a way that you'd just have to know like I do.

Dude, are you telling me sprinters don't accelerate that first 50?




There is no trick if you know what acceleration and velocity means.
Spurraider entered on his own an immediately nailed it. He's a frkn law grad. He did not claim the above and neither did I.

You did.

Dude, are you telling me sprinters don't accelerate that first 50?

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:47 AM
What? We all know what accelration is, so what are you talking about? My problem was trying to figure out why anyone would ask such a stupid question.

Its not stupid.
Its actually damn interesting if you really understand what acceleration means and the force in running that must exist to cause it. But you don't.

You still have yet, after God knows how many pages, failed to show you know fully what acceleration is. And after I have given a hint in almost every other post.

spurraider21
01-19-2018, 12:49 AM
Dude, are you telling me sprinters don't accelerate that first 50?
no, he's not telling you that. he's telling you that the runners must sustain acceleration for a longer period during the curve than during the first 50

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:51 AM
Its not stupid.
Its actually damn interesting if you really understand what acceleration means and the force in running that must exist to cause it. But you don't.

You still have yet, after God knows how many pages, failed to show you know fully what acceleration is. And after I have given a hint in almost every other post.

Who needs hints as to what acceleration is, are you really this damn stupid? I get the feeling you have confused some things here. You do understand what acceleration is in sprinting, it sure doesn't look like it.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:53 AM
I'm going to go further.

if you can't get it after this, it will have to wait. I basically already tried this:

If you started off running before the starting line in the 200 m dash, and you tried your best to maintain a constant speed throughout and actually did maintain a constant speed because you take it easy.... And now here it comes.... YOU MUST STILL ACCELERATE.

Explain please.

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:54 AM
Who needs hints as to what acceleration is, are you really this damn stupid? I get the feeling you have confused some things here. You do understand what acceleration is in sprinting, it sure doesn't look like it.

Uhhh..

YOU need hints.
Because you still don't get it.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:54 AM
no, he's not telling you that. he's telling you that the runners must sustain acceleration for a longer period during the curve than during the first 50

Dude, just how long do sprinters stay in the acceleration phase of any sprint? What both of you are doing is ignoring the transition phase. Find me anything where sprinters are acelerating that far down a track.

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:55 AM
Uhhh..

YOU need hints.
Because you still don't get it.

Dude, just how far can a sprinter accelerate, well?

spurraider21
01-19-2018, 12:56 AM
Dude, just how long do sprinters stay in the acceleration phase of any sprint? What both of you are doing is ignoring the transition phase. Find me anything where sprinters are acelerating that far down a track.
its pretty clear that they're accelerating during the curve, throughout the whole curve. that is longer than the 0-50. it's equally clear you dont really know what acceleration/velocity mean

Avante
01-19-2018, 12:57 AM
I'm going to go further.

if you can't get it after this, it will have to wait. I basically already tried this:

If you started off running before the starting line in the 200 m dash, and you tried your best to maintain a constant speed throughout and actually did maintain a constant speed because you take it easy.... And now here it comes.... YOU MUST STILL ACCELERATE.

Explain please.

Going from jogging to sprinting has to be explained, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~

pgardn
01-19-2018, 12:58 AM
Dude, just how far can a sprinter accelerate, well?

For the 200?

Look at the table and you can figure it out on your own. That's why I gave it to you dumbshit.

Avante
01-19-2018, 01:00 AM
its pretty clear that they're accelerating during the curve, throughout the whole curve. that is longer than the 0-50. it's equally clear you dont really know what acceleration/velocity mean

So you really think sprinters can accelerate from a start to the head of a 200m curve, right?

pgardn
01-19-2018, 01:01 AM
Going from jogging to sprinting has to be explained, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~

Substitute "try to and accomplish maintaining the same speed" dumbass, if you must to understand it.

Either you are trying to avoid being embarrassed, really stupid, or both.

Avante
01-19-2018, 01:01 AM
For the 200?

Look at the table and you can figure it out on your own. That's why I gave it to you dumbshit.

Dude, you don't watch my videros I don't look at yoiur charts, ok?

Dude, at what point do sprinters hit that max veloicity in a 200m, well?

pgardn
01-19-2018, 01:04 AM
And I'm out for tonight.
If will revisit this stubborn stupidity tomorrow.

Maybe by that time you will have it and we can go further into the more interesting part the table shows.

Avante
01-19-2018, 01:04 AM
Substitute "try to and accomplish maintaining the same speed" dumbass, if you must to understand it.

Either you are trying to avoid being embarrassed, really stupid, or both.

Smacking a dumbass like you around is enbarrashing, hahaha~~~~ Dude, do you know anything at all about actual sprinting? You look like some retard.

Avante
01-19-2018, 01:05 AM
And I'm out for tonight.
If will revisit this stubborn stupidity tomorrow.

Maybe by that time you will have it and we can go further into the more interesting part the table shows.

I talk actual sprinting stupid, ok? Tables hahahaha~~~~~~~~~

Avante
01-19-2018, 01:07 AM
Anyone thinking any sprinter is accelerating coming off a 200m curve is a moron.

Pay attention rookies.

World class sprinters can only run all out about 70m, ok? Now in that first 70 we have reaction to the gun/start, ok? Now here comes....acceleration.....ya with me? That only lasts 50ish meters, then a few meters of transiting into...max velocity, topend....OK? That lasts 20ish meters give or take, ok? The last stage of a 100 is.....decelleration, OK? Other than "speed reserve" it's pretty much the same st 200m, obviously at that distance the start/acceleration not as important.

NOBODY...NOBODY....is accelerating coming off a 200m curve, and if ya know sprinting ya know this.

Never seen so many rookies in one place before, sheesh~~~~~~~~

Those who really know sprinting talk about this....

The purpose of speed endurance is to prolong the amount of time where a near maximal speed can be maintained.


That is sprinting, that ability to sustain/maintain maximal velocity. All great sprinters are loaded down with speed endurance.

Sprinting
Acceleration Phase

Once the sprinter takes off from the blocks, they begin to accelerate by increasing stride length and stride frequency. The length of this phase can be anywhere from 30 to 50 meters among top sprinters during a 100-meter race. During acceleration, the time in which the foot is in contact with the ground is relatively long in order to generate high levels of force, but decreases as the sprinter achieves maximum running speed.
Constant Speed Phase

The constant speed phase can be submaximal, maximal or supramaximal and is characterized by both the stride length and stride frequency remaining the same over a period of time. This phase is generally achieved between the 60 to 80 meter mark in men and 50 to 70 meter mark in women. In principle, the top sprinters can sustain this phase over a distance of 10 to 20 meters. The difference between elite and sub-elite sprinters is the frequency of stride, demonstrating that it is more important than the length of the stride.
Deceleration Phase

The last phase is categorized by a decrease in sprinting speed, usually occurring between the 80 and 100-meter mark in top sprinters. Velocity begins to decrease on a scale of .5 to 1.5 meters per second and is caused by central and peripheral fatigue. The decrease in speed is mainly caused by a decrease in stride frequency, as stride length and ground contact time is increased when compared to the third sprinting phase

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nobody is still accelerating coming off a 200m curve, ok rookies?

spurraider21
01-19-2018, 01:48 AM
here's the kicker, avante

if you are walking in a circular path at a constant speed, you are accelerating the entire time

Avante
01-19-2018, 01:53 AM
here's the kicker, avante

if you are walking in a circular path at a constant speed, you are accelerating the entire time

So there is no difference in sprinting?

How far can a human sprint at max velocity?

spurraider21
01-19-2018, 01:57 AM
So there is no difference in sprinting?
you could be accelerating at a faster rate... but even if you are walking at a constant speed of 1 mile per hour in a circular path, you are accelerating

this is because velocity refers to how fast you are moving in a given direction

so if you are changing direction, you are changing velocity. this is why when running on a semi-circle (like they do in the 200m), they are accelerating around the entire curve. if you are curving towards your left, you must put a lot more force/weight on your outside (right) foot

Avante
01-19-2018, 02:10 AM
you could be accelerating at a faster rate... but even if you are walking at a constant speed of 1 mile per hour in a circular path, you are accelerating

this is because velocity refers to how fast you are moving in a given direction

so if you are changing direction, you are changing velocity. this is why when running on a semi-circle (like they do in the 200m), they are accelerating around the entire curve. if you are curving towards your left, you must put a lot more force/weight on your outside (right) foot

In sprinting that word....accelerate....means a sprinter is gaining speed up and into his max speed, his topend speed, that max velocity. Everyone in sprinting knows you can only accelerate so long before that transitiion to MV. Trying to sell....accelerating to the top of a 200m curve will not work no many how ya try to explain it, it simply does not happen, IF.....we use... acceleration.... like we all do in sprinting.

Nobody into sprinting is going to buy sprinters are accelerating around a 200m curve, trust me, they know better.

What about this don't you understand?

Acceleration Phase

Once the sprinter takes off from the blocks, they begin to accelerate by increasing stride length and stride frequency. The length of this phase can be anywhere from********* 30 to 50 meters********** among top sprinters during a 100-meter race. During acceleration, the time in which the foot is in contact with the ground is relatively long in order to generate high levels of force, but decreases as the sprinter achieves maximum running speed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Do you really think sprinters are capable of accelerating further than 50ish meters? You are confusing the final stages of that acceleration phase into the transition phase into the topend stage. Dude, if sprinters were still accelerating coming off the curve you are saying they don't reach max velocity unil around.....hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

Pay attention

The key to sprint speed is the horizontal force the sprinter can generate. When that force is equal to drag on the runner, the runner cannot achieve a faster time. The force out of the blocks is often larger, as pushing against the blocks is more efficient than pushing against a flat surface. As a result, a sprinter can rapidly approach their top speed very shortly after a good start. The UNAM group has extracted some of these factors for Usain Bolt's 2009 IAAF record-setting run, based on times and locations every tenth of a second (supplied by the IAAF.)


First, Bolt comes out of the blocks with an acceleration of nearly one g. This is driven by a force of 817 N (184 lb). This isn't terribly surprising, as the legs are used to operating under a load of one g – it is simply a matter of training the muscles to work fully for horizontal propulsion. What is more surprising is that the UNAM analysis shows that Bolt is able to maintain that level of force for horizontal motion for the entire 100-meter event.



Maintaining a constant force implies that Bolt, at some point, will slowly approach a maximum speed.**** His acceleration falls essentially to zero between four and five seconds from the start of the race, and he maintains a speed of some 12.2 m/s (27.3 mph) throughout the remainder of the race.*************

Dude, sprinters don't accelerate no 10 seconds ok, get off that stupid shit, ok? This is sprinting dude, in sprinting the word ...accelerate....isn't about walking in fucking circles, ok?