Pop on Kawhi shoulder injury: "When he's back, he's back."

[spursistan]

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The new "sooner rather than later" :lmao..

This shit is getting comical..

[Robz4000]

He hasn't been able to wipe his ass since May...

[phxspurfan]

He will injured in shootaround :lol

so glad I returned his jersey and bought a Manu Argentina jersey instead.


Besides Duncan/Robinson/Bowen/P/G I'm really hesitant to buy a jersey. The rest don't seem to deserve it

[spursistan]

Ice009 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1302) mentioned it in the other thread, though using the S word; at this point, it can't be ruled out that Kawhi may be the one ruling himself out, tbh. His pain tolerance threshold could be way lower than we thought..

[TheGreatYacht]

Also said Lavar Ball "hadn't gotten over himself" pregame :lol

[daslicer]

In other words Kawhi will be back in April.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He seems as frustrated as anyone here.

[bic50]

Ice009 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1302) mentioned it in the other thread, though using the S word; at this point, it can't be ruled out that Kawhi may be the one ruling himself out, tbh. His pain tolerance threshold could be way lower than we thought..
Using the word "soft "now is stupid. Overreaction by people who want to see Kawhi play injured just for the hell of it.

[Slippy]

Ice009 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1302) mentioned it in the other thread, though using the S word; at this point, it can't be ruled out that Kawhi may be the one ruling himself out, tbh. His pain tolerance threshold could be way lower than we thought..

Its come up a couple of times during spurs braodcasts just cant remember when. They leave it upto Kawai to have final say on gametime decisions. "How hes feeling". My first thought was kawai must have a low pain threshold, second thought its gotta be pop.

[TE]

Get the fuck over yourself.

[coachmac87]

Spurs have about another month to do what they’re doing...

Shit gets real after ASB and after Rodeo..if we’re dtill dealing with these issues I’d be worried..

It’s funny how ST or fans have changed their tune. We woukd all agree in the past saying the RS didn’t matter and it’s all about being healthy and how it’s a marathon and not a sprint..but now all of a sudden we need justification before the All Star break if this team is worth a shit...

It’s crazy what an opposing team with 4 All-NBA players will do to the psyche of fans..

Like it wouldn’t even matter if Spurs had 2nd best record in the league cause ST would call it “Fools Gold”

[tholdren]

Spurs have about another month to do what they’re doing...

Shit gets real after ASB and after Rodeo..if we’re dtill dealing with these issues I’d be worried..

It’s funny how ST or fans have changed their tune. We woukd all agree in the past saying the RS didn’t matter and it’s all about being healthy and how it’s a marathon and not a sprint..but now all of a sudden we need justification before the All Star break if this team is worth a shit...

It’s crazy what an opposing team with 4 All-NBA players will do to the psyche of fans..

Like it wouldn’t even matter if Spurs had 2nd best record in the league cause ST would call it “Fools Gold”

Regular season doesnt matter wins losses, but sure does for chemistry.

[coachmac87]

Regular season doesnt matter wins losses, but sure does for chemistry.

It’s about peaking at the right time..

Yes if injuries are still an issue around ASB/Rodeo I said it’d be time to worry..

But what would you rather have going on? Injuries and losses?? Or being healthy and getting blown out by 30?

I’d rather be in Spurs shoes instead of Cleveland tbh.. yeah Cavs have better chance of making Finals but it’s irrelevant if the goal is beating GSW.

[Keepin' it real]

Using the word "soft "now is stupid. Overreaction by people who want to see Kawhi play injured just for the hell of it.

Yeah, it's not like anyone pays money for tickets or for NBA League Pass. It's not like paying customers want to get their money's worth or anything.

[UZER]

Pop only has himself to blame for creating this soft regular season mentality. It's only a matter of time before it's start seeping into your players heads.

[coachmac87]

Pop only has himself to blame for creating this soft regular season mentality. It's only a matter of time before it's start seeping into your players heads.

But does it matter? Not every coach has 4 All NBA players and cab rely on pure talent alone and sustain injuries..

[spurs1990]

Maybe Leonard can take a visit to Lebrun James pharmacist. James hardly ever misses time to injury and has played every game this season for Cleveland

[UZER]

But does it matter? Not every coach has 4 All NBA players and cab rely on pure talent alone and sustain injuries..

Grab your lunch pail and go to work. Stop babying players. I don't like the rest strategy, but I understand it is never going to go away as long as Pop is here. But stop over doing it and micro-managing every damn aspect. Give get the old old guys the occasional night off, that's it.

[bic50]

Yeah, it's not like anyone pays money for tickets or for NBA League Pass. It's not like paying customers want to get their money's worth or anything.
We already know pop doesn't care about any of that. He's already been criticized for resting players in some highly anticipated regular season games. I wouldn't be surprised if his mindset right now is that the team is still 3rd in the west mostly without him so no reason to play him injured. If they were .500 team right now then things might be different

[bic50]

Grab your lunch pail and go to work. Stop babying players. I don't like the rest strategy, but I understand it is never going to go away as long as Pop is here. But stop over doing it and micro-managing every damn aspect. Give get the old old guys the occasional night off, that's it.
Pop has already cemented his legacy as an all time great coach. I just don't think he has the fire anymore

[UZER]

Pop has already cemented his legacy as an all time great coach. I just don't think he has the fire anymore

The same thing I have said 100 times.

[UZER]

We already know pop doesn't care about any of that. He's already been criticized for resting players in some highly anticipated regular season games. I wouldn't be surprised if his mindset right now is that the team is still 3rd in the west mostly without him so no reason to play him injured. If they were .500 team right now then things might be different

The Spurs as a franchise can't afford for fans and local sponsors to lose interest all regular season just because Pop wants to be cute with resting year after year. It's going to catch up to them financially.

[SuperCam]

Pop only has himself to blame for creating this soft regular season mentality. It's only a matter of time before it's start seeping into your players heads.

this tbqh

Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes a game in one of his seasons and never complained. Poop is creating millenial pussies on this team

[tholdren]

It’s about peaking at the right time..

Yes if injuries are still an issue around ASB/Rodeo I said it’d be time to worry..

But what would you rather have going on? Injuries and losses?? Or being healthy and getting blown out by 30?

I’d rather be in Spurs shoes instead of Cleveland tbh.. yeah Cavs have better chance of making Finals but it’s irrelevant if the goal is beating GSW.

My point is, i dont want a totally new starting lineup in the playoffs

[Slippy]

The Spurs as a franchise can't afford for fans and local sponsors to lose interest all regular season just because Pop wants to be cute with resting year after year. It's going to catch up to them financially.
This is the crux of the mattetr. When the owner goes to the president we stil got a business to run. Fans are paying good money. Right now though, it seems ownership backs pop 100percent

[SpurPadre]

Mr. Glass, tbh. Motherfucker breaks an ankle just for snubbing someone's daughter, tbh.

[bic50]

Mr. Glass, tbh. Motherfucker breaks an ankle just for snubbing someone's daughter, tbh.
This beating from the lakers is bringing the worst outof some you people. :lol

[Atl Spur]

Relax...... Uzer....... calm down sir.

[Fireball]

Pop is getting annoyed by Kawhis injuries as well ...

[UZER]

Pop is getting annoyed by Kawhis injuries as well ...

Pop created the "babying players" system.

[SAGirl]

951643139277651968

The new "sooner rather than later" :lmao..

This shit is getting comical..
I told you. I was super upset they had really given no real timeline and told the press it was no big deal, he might play next game... he might play against Sacramento or the Lakers he’s traveling with the team Etc. Bullshit

[Arcadian]

:lol

[cd98]

Remember how Kobe won 5 titles while playing through every conceivable injury? Sure he broke down before he was 40, but would you rather have Kawhi with 5 titles or have him playing at 40 with one?

[NameLess Scrub]

Pop created the "babying players" system.

Do you honestly think Kawhi is injured just because of resting? It just doesn't seem to me that's the case. He's just injury prone at this point. This season, besides Manu, seems to be more about injuries than resting.

[tholdren]

Do you honestly think Kawhi is injured just because of resting? It just doesn't seem to me that's the case. He's just injury prone at this point. This season, besides Manu, seems to be more about injuries than resting.

Which is the irony. Pop is a known serial rester. Yet with all the dnp rests in current and previous years, the spurs have many odd injuries.

1. Terrible conditioning program.
2. Rest doesnt do anything

Carry on

[Dex]

He seems as frustrated as anyone here.

No, Pop is purposefully leaving Kawhi on the bench so that he can stroke his ego and prove his brilliance by playing glorified GLeaguers.

[Ice009]

The NBA season is a marathon, right? So why does Pop let his players run like 2km/s then rest them? How the fuck does he expect them to turn it on in the playoffs if they're not conditioned for it?

Someone needs to explain how conditioning works to him. Someone also needs to explain that in 2016 against OKC, you didn't need to limit Kawhi's minutes if you expected to win the series. A lot of their runs were when that idiot Pop was limiting minutes of key players in a darn playoff series. What the fuck did you rest them for in the regular season if they couldn't play bigger minutes in the playoffs.

[SpursforSix]

The NBA season is a marathon, right? So why does Pop let his players run like 2km/s then rest them? How the fuck does he expect them to turn it on in the playoffs if they're not conditioned for it?

Someone needs to explain how conditioning works to him. Someone also needs to explain that in 2016 against OKC, you didn't need to limit Kawhi's minutes if you expected to win the series. A lot of their runs were when that idiot Pop was limiting minutes of key players in a darn playoff series. What the fuck did you rest them for in the regular season if they couldn't play bigger minutes in the playoffs.

:pop: how many championship rings do you have?

[UZER]

Do you honestly think Kawhi is injured just because of resting? It just doesn't seem to me that's the case. He's just injury prone at this point. This season, besides Manu, seems to be more about injuries than resting.

I'm saying he babies his players therefore shouldn't be frustrated when some are slow to come back.

It's like having a parent who's frustrated with their spoiled ass kid. Is the frustration real, of course. But you're the parent. You raised them.

[BatManu20]

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[NameLess Scrub]

Which is the irony. Pop is a known serial rester. Yet with all the dnp rests in current and previous years, the spurs have many odd injuries.

1. Terrible conditioning program.
2. Rest doesnt do anything

Carry on

It's hard to me to agree that just because there are injuries, resting is this retarded, idiotic practice.

It might affect conditioning negatively, but it might as well be that resting is not a guarantee of health, it's just an attempt to help prevent injuries related to lack of resting (not all injuries), and prolong the careers of the players, specially old ones.

I agree conditioning is very important and they need to account for it when thinking about resting.
But for me Kawhi is injury prone, rest or not.

[NameLess Scrub]

I'm saying he babies his players therefore shouldn't be frustrated when some are slow to come back.

It's like having a parent who's frustrated with their spoiled ass kid. Is the frustration real, of course. But you're the parent. You raised them.

So basically, Kawhi is slow coming back because Pop rests him too much?

Is an interesting thought to explore. Also Kawhi being such a workhorse to improve his game, you'd think he would have the same drive to come back from injures, rest or not from Pop.

[TheGreatYacht]

No, Pop is purposefully leaving Kawhi on the bench so that he can stroke his ego and prove his brilliance by playing glorified GLeaguers.
Agreed. Fire that faggot

[UZER]

So basically, Kawhi is slow coming back because Pop rests him too much?

Is an interesting thought to explore. Also Kawhi being such a workhorse to improve his game, you'd think he would have the same drive to come back from injures, rest or not from Pop.

So what's the deal then? Pop is "frustrated". Kawhi says he's fine. Somethings not jivin'.

Not arguing, just conversation.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Pop needs to quit fvcking around and start the season already. Enough of this BS we're seeing on the floor every night.

I'm still waiting to see Kawhi, LMA, Green, Gay and Manu/Tony/Anyone out there busting teams up.

[NameLess Scrub]

So what's the deal then? Pop is "frustrated". Kawhi says he's fine. Somethings not jivin'.

Not arguing, just conversation.

Yeah I agree. We've been on this since the beginning of the season when they weren't giving much details on Kawhi's injury, that seemed out of nowhere.

I have no idea if Pop is frustrated. If he wasn't sarcastic and a smartass all the time, maybe his comments about Kawhi would be telling us something :lol

[UZER]

Yeah I agree. We've been on this since the beginning of the season when they weren't giving much details on Kawhi's injury, that seemed out of nowhere.

I have no idea if Pop is frustrated. If he wasn't sarcastic and a smartass all the time, maybe his comments about Kawhi would be telling us something :lol

I'm just frustrated with the whole rest thing already. Pop has taken it too far. I'm also frustrated with the whole, you're just coming back from injury so take every other game off. If your back, then your back. If you're not ready, don't play.

But no one gives a shit about my frustration. :lol

It's just getting old. Just play the damn game. Just my 2cents.

[NameLess Scrub]

I'm just frustrated with the whole rest thing already. Pop has taken it too far. I'm also frustrated with the whole, you're just coming back from injury so take every other game off. If your back, then your back. If you're not ready, don't play.

But no one gives a shit about my frustration. :lol

It's just getting old. Just play the damn game. Just my 2cents.


:lol:lol

[Ice009]

I'm just frustrated with the whole rest thing already. Pop has taken it too far. I'm also frustrated with the whole, you're just coming back from injury so take every other game off. If your back, then your back. If you're not ready, don't play.

But no one gives a shit about my frustration. :lol

It's just getting old. Just play the damn game. Just my 2cents.

That's how I've felt for years, actually, I've been a lot madder than you appear to be about it.

You've got posters here saying he hasn't done it as much this season compared to previous seasons. I disagree. I feel he's starting to go off the deep end with it.

[duncan2k5]

Remember how Kobe won 5 titles while playing through every conceivable injury? Sure he broke down before he was 40, but would you rather have Kawhi with 5 titles or have him playing at 40 with one?

nah bro...kobe exaggerated how injured he was just to create drama and mold a hero complex...when he was actually injured, he stayed out....

[duncan2k5]

im pretty sure if it were up to Kawhi, he would have been back since november playing normal rotation minutes...pop is babying him and kawhi is too nice to call him ut on it...but best believe the competitor in him has his bags packed

[BatManu20]

He's back.

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[Seventyniner]

The Spurs as a franchise can't afford for fans and local sponsors to lose interest all regular season just because Pop wants to be cute with resting year after year. It's going to catch up to them financially.

Pop has been doing this for years. If it was going to "catch up with them" it would have happened long ago.

[Stabula]

If you think that resting players in an inflated 82 game season is stopping professional athletes from being properly conditioned (doing their job) in the playoffs you're a fucking idiot. Absolute fucking idiot.

[ducks]

Jeff McDonald
Jeff McDonald
@JMcDonald_SAEN
Pop says Kawhi Leonard, Tony Parker and Danny Green are expected to play tonight against Denver, unless something goes awry with warm-ups.
4:49 PM · Jan 13, 2018

[SAGirl]

good news

[tholdren]

It's hard to me to agree that just because there are injuries, resting is this retarded, idiotic practice.

It might affect conditioning negatively, but it might as well be that resting is not a guarantee of health, it's just an attempt to help prevent injuries related to lack of resting (not all injuries), and prolong the careers of the players, specially old ones.

I agree conditioning is very important and they need to account for it when thinking about resting.
But for me Kawhi is injury prone, rest or not.

Rest is pop trying to limit the low odds of injury.

[bklynspursfan]

People worried about this for nothing, the initial diagnosis was a good one. This wasn't like his quad, a shoulder strain (especially a lower grade) is pretty common, and the recovery time is not very long for it. Pop said he didn't think he'd be out long and the team said it wasn't serious, that was all good news.

[tholdren]

If you think that resting players in an inflated 82 game season is stopping professional athletes from being properly conditioned (doing their job) in the playoffs you're a fucking idiot. Absolute fucking idiot.

No

[duncan2k5]

If you think that resting players in an inflated 82 game season is stopping professional athletes from being properly conditioned (doing their job) in the playoffs you're a fucking idiot. Absolute fucking idiot.

you clearly havent played sports...repetition is everything to athletes...why do you think the first week of NBA games teams look out of sorts? by your statement, you dont believe chemistry exists...question...if the warriors dont play the entire season and was just placed into the playoffs after never playing...and they play us, who have been playing all of our players for most of the season (in a world where we werent injured and pop wasnt babying players)...who do you think wins?

[Stabula]

No one who isn't injured is being rested to the point to where they're not able to build chemistry with the team. Saying that resting players isn't causing more injuries and not an issue is very different from saying chemistry doesn't exist. That's a large and inaccurate leap.

[Ice009]

If you think that resting players in an inflated 82 game season is stopping professional athletes from being properly conditioned (doing their job) in the playoffs you're a fucking idiot. Absolute fucking idiot.

So Michael Jordan's trainer is an idiot? Michael Jordan was one of the most well conditioned athletes of all time.

[bklynspursfan]

If you think that resting players in an inflated 82 game season is stopping professional athletes from being properly conditioned (doing their job) in the playoffs you're a fucking idiot. Absolute fucking idiot.

Word

[james evans]

playign 82 games back in the day was a regular occurrence. Nowadays it's rare to even see it. players would play 82 and 80 games for years and years. Westbrooke didn't miss a game until Patrick Beverley put him out. I was in the military. We had PT early in the morning 4 times a week. The only day we didn't have pt we had training. The only other time we didn't have it was if it was a day before a PT test. I wish we had 1sgs like Popovich giving us rest. Especially when the weather was 30 degrees and we'd still be out running miles.

[james evans]

this tbqh

Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes a game in one of his seasons and never complained. Poop is creating millenial pussies on this team
People don't realize that a 48 minute nba game isn't 48 straight minutes of playing. . You have timeouts for both teams(I'm glad the league cut those down), tv time outs, freethrows(which takes about a minute to a minute and a half per player in each set), injuries, and half time. So a 48 minute game lasts 2 and a half hours on average. I just never understood how players got tired especially when they aren't running an offense like the Nuggets in the early 2000s or LMU in the late 80s. Those are guys that needed rest. especially with the way they practiced.

[hater]

:lmao wilt would walk the length of the court tbqh

Todays game is fast paces thus players get tired

:lol at the couch potatoes here complaining about players getting tired

Fat slobs would barely make it past half a court :lol

[SuperCam]

:lmao wilt would walk the length of the court tbqh

Todays game is fast paces thus players get tired

:lol at the couch potatoes here complaining about players getting tired

Fat slobs would barely make it past half a court :lol

what? nba pace was much faster in wilt's day

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

Wilt would play the entire game, then have some menthols and cognac each night afterwards while fucking random white women. none of this 28 minute no back to back bullshit with faggy vegan diets like the millenial pussies today :lol

[BackHome]

Regular season doesnt matter wins losses, but sure does for chemistry.

AND DRAFT PICK - We ain’t wining shit this year so I am OK playing it safe and sit Kawhi and rest everyone else as much as possible

[BSfromTX]

Typical smart ass answer from Pop

[Ice009]

I'm pretty sure Wilt averaged just over 48 minutes per game one season. NBA teams also inquired about him playing in his mid and late 40s. He still could have played limited minutes if he wanted to come back.

[TheDoctor]

what? nba pace was much faster in wilt's day

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

Wilt would play the entire game, then have some menthols and cognac each night afterwards while fucking random white women. none of this 28 minute no back to back bullshit with faggy vegan diets like the millenial pussies today :lol
:lmao