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Isitjustme?
01-15-2018, 01:15 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/11/05/trump-who-urged-people-to-hire-american-secures-70-foreign-workers-for-mar-a-lago/?utm_term=.1978a3a50d22

spurraider21
01-15-2018, 01:16 PM
:lol

Isitjustme?
01-15-2018, 03:38 PM
Crickets up in this bitch

Pavlov
01-15-2018, 03:48 PM
Shitholago

Isitjustme?
01-15-2018, 05:31 PM
Chances ducks posts itt?

I say less than or equal to negative zero percent

boutons_deux
01-15-2018, 05:40 PM
Trash LIES, no accountability

Repug care about nothing but zygotes, hating LGBT, non-whites, Muslims, lovin guns

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 12:46 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/11/05/trump-who-urged-people-to-hire-american-secures-70-foreign-workers-for-mar-a-lago/?utm_term=.1978a3a50d22

Supply and demand.

Legal immigrants.

Only a partisan sack of shit sees a problem here.

Isitjustme?
01-16-2018, 02:48 AM
Supply and demand.

Legal immigrants.

Only a partisan sack of shit sees a problem here.

Lol triggered

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 04:05 AM
Supply and demand.

Legal immigrants.

Only a partisan sack of shit sees a problem here.There are plenty of Americans who would work there if Trump paid them enough.

boutons_deux
01-16-2018, 06:20 AM
There are plenty of Americans who would work there if Trump paid them enough.

Hell yes! would like great on the resume, a huge career builder.

johnsmith
01-16-2018, 07:47 AM
Trash LIES, no accountability

Repug care about nothing but zygotes, hating LGBT, non-whites, Muslims, lovin guns

Good to see you’re still adding nothing to the conversation. Just to put boutons InTo context....he’s now been repeatedly posting in this forum all day, every day, for twelve fucking years....might be time to walk outside and get some air eh chubby?

Chucho
01-16-2018, 02:00 PM
Good to see you’re still adding nothing to the conversation. Just to put boutons InTo context....he’s now been repeatedly posting in this forum all day, every day, for twelve fucking years....might be time to walk outside and get some air eh chubby?

:lmao

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 03:18 PM
You guys don't get it. This is seasonal work, and the supply of temporary workers are not enough in the area.

I most certainly like to see US workers get the jobs instead, but would they temporarily relocate for it?

dabom
01-16-2018, 03:24 PM
You guys don't get it. This is seasonal work, and the supply of temporary workers are not enough in the area.

I most certainly like to see US workers get the jobs instead, but would they temporarily relocate for it?

Why not pay more?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 05:15 PM
Why not pay more?

These are legal aliens working jobs legally. What exactly is the problem?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 05:19 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 05:26 PM
You guys don't get it. This is seasonal work, and the supply of temporary workers are not enough in the area.

I most certainly like to see US workers get the jobs instead, but would they temporarily relocate for it?If you paid them enough they would.

Chris
01-16-2018, 05:27 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.

They are desperate for anything since the Russia thing has backfired, and the 25th ammendment thingy fell through. They were trying to get MLK's nephew to say Trump is a racist, and Don Lemon blew another gasket.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 05:27 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.He and them have never really been "America First" either.

apalisoc_9
01-16-2018, 05:27 PM
Trump treating his supporters like Crackhead WWE fans. :lol

AaronY
01-16-2018, 05:28 PM
These are legal aliens working jobs legally. What exactly is the problem?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/politics/trump-immigration.html

dabom
01-16-2018, 05:47 PM
These are legal aliens working jobs legally. What exactly is the problem?


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/politics/trump-immigration.html

Maybe it's that people want those numbers to go up, but Repug rhetoric doesn't allow it to happen.

I bet peepee would cry like a little bitch if he didn't get his share of "legal immigrants". :lol

hater
01-16-2018, 06:29 PM
:lol epic troll job

AaronY
01-16-2018, 06:32 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.
meant to quote this post earlier imo

Blake
01-16-2018, 06:43 PM
These are legal aliens working jobs legally. What exactly is the problem?

It's Trump being a hypocrite for crying about companies hiring foreign workers.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 06:44 PM
"apply by fax"

"fax number not listed"

:lol

hater
01-16-2018, 06:45 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.

:lmao bullshit

Trump and his people have been speaking and working on getting rid of family immigration, getting rid of visa lottery and even H1b visas

Wake up

Blake
01-16-2018, 06:46 PM
"This summer, in an official proclamation, the president dubbed July 17, 2017 “Made in America Day,” a time to “recognize the vital contributions of American workers and job creators to our Nation’s prosperity and strength.”

That same week, Mar-a-Lago was applying for H-2B visas to hire non-American workers......"


:lol

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 06:55 PM
:lmao bullshit

Trump and his people have been speaking and working on getting rid of family immigration, getting rid of visa lottery and even H1b visas

Wake up
So?
I prefer the Canadian system where they actually screen immigrants that can assimilate and bring value.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 06:57 PM
So?
I prefer the Canadian system where they actually screen immigrants that can assimilate and bring value."able to have labor exploited by billionaire" is value.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 07:01 PM
"able to have labor exploited by billionaire" is value.

Do you feel exploited?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 07:10 PM
Do you feel exploited?My pay rates are pretty ridiculous tbh. I'm not an immigrant who is recruited to work in America for less than Americans.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 07:33 PM
My pay rates are pretty ridiculous tbh. I'm not an immigrant who is recruited to work in America for less than Americans.

Yeah, richie rich you have it made. Do you think they would have taken that job if they could get anything better?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 07:35 PM
Yeah, richie rich you have it made.I never said that. Jeez, you get so sensitive when talking about money.
Do you think they would have taken that job if they could get anything better?Who? The immigrants or the Americans?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 07:35 PM
So Ritchie Ritch is anti immigrant?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 07:36 PM
So Ritchie Ritch is anti immigrant?Look at you with your little nickname. You're adorable.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 07:39 PM
Look at you with your little nickname. You're adorable.

*ding*

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 07:39 PM
*ding*That's not how it's used. I asked you to clarify yourself above.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 07:42 PM
That's not how it's used. I asked you to clarify yourself above.

So Ritchie...are you anti immigrant?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 07:44 PM
Are you really against those legal immigrants taking jobs at Mar a Lago?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 07:48 PM
So Ritchie...are you anti immigrant?


Are you really against those legal immigrants taking jobs at Mar a Lago?You didn't clarify yourself. Maybe you're a little preoccupied with the nickname since it's a classic projection and all.

Please clarify and I will answer your original question.

Thanks in advance.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:25 PM
You didn't clarify yourself. Maybe you're a little preoccupied with the nickname since it's a classic projection and all.

Please clarify and I will answer your original question.

Thanks in advance.

No, Ritchie...its your turn to clarify. Do legal immigrants not deserve jobs in America?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:30 PM
No, Ritchie...its your turn to clarify. Do legal immigrants not deserve jobs in America?For the express purpose of paying them less than an employer would pay an American to to the same job?

No, insecure old white bigot, no I don't think they should get jobs for that reason.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:33 PM
For the express purpose of paying them less than an employer would pay an American to to the same job?

No, insecure old white bigot, no I don't think they should get jobs for that reason.

Are legal immigrants less human than American born natives?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:35 PM
Are legal immigrants less human than American born natives?When they are imported for the express purpose of paying them less than an employer would pay an American to to the same job, that sure looks like they are considered less human by those doing it, insecure old white bigot.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:40 PM
When they are imported for the express purpose of paying them less than an employer would pay an American to to the same job, that sure looks like they are considered less human by those doing it, insecure old white bigot.
Did they not want the job and agree to the terms of their work agreement? Are legal immigrants not allowed to do that? How does Ritchie Rich say they don't deserve the jobs they wanted?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:42 PM
Did they not want the job and agree to the terms of their work agreement? Are legal immigrants not allowed to do that? How does Ritchie Rich say they don't deserve the jobs they wanted?:lol look at insecure old white bigot, makin' dem straw men and pretending he's on the side of the immigrants.

hater
01-16-2018, 08:44 PM
So?
I prefer the Canadian system where they actually screen immigrants that can assimilate and bring value.

So? :lol

You basically backtracked from your point Trump was never against legal migration :lol

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:45 PM
Does the legal immigrant from somalia not deserve to take the overnight shift at 7-11 because no "native" american wants it?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:46 PM
So? :lol

You basically backtracked from your point Trump was never against legal migration :lolHis dander is up. I mentioned money without acknowledging his big time status. He naturally had to make it personal.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:47 PM
So? :lol

You basically backtracked from your point Trump was never against legal migration :lol

Thats just stupid. Canadians have legal immigration, just different qualifications.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:48 PM
Does the legal immigrant from somalia not deserve to take the overnight shift at 7-11 because no "native" american wants it?Why do the citizens not want it?

hater
01-16-2018, 08:48 PM
Thats just stupid. Canadians have legal immigration, just different qualifications.

Are current h1b, family and lottery not current forms of legal migration??

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:48 PM
His dander is up. I mentioned money without acknowledging his big time status. He naturally had to make it personal.

LOL.

Suck it Ritchie Ritch, anti- immigration bitch.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:49 PM
LOL.

Suck it Ritchie Ritch, anti- immigration bitch.See what I mean?

Dude lost it for no reason.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:49 PM
Why do the citizens not want it?

Why does Ritchie Ritch not want it?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:51 PM
Why does Ritchie Ritch not want it?:lol can't even spell it right. Angry.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:53 PM
Seriously, do you try to impress people with how "ritch" you are?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:53 PM
:lol can't even spell it right. Angry.

On the phone. Can't just answer a simple question, can you Ritchie?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:54 PM
On the phone. Can't just answer a simple question, can you Ritchie?I called your straw men out for what they are. You blew a gasket.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:54 PM
Why are you against immigrants?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:55 PM
Why are you against immigrants?Straw man.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:56 PM
Still ducking and dodging Richie.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 08:57 PM
Still ducking and dodging Richie.You're still making those straw men, insecure old white bigot.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:58 PM
You're still making those straw men, insecure old white bigot.

Oh, name calling Richie? You mad?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 08:59 PM
Why do you hate immigrants?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:00 PM
Oh, name calling Richie? You mad?:lol you started calling me names and making it personal and now you want to cry foul when it's turned on you.

Tough shit.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:01 PM
Why do you hate immigrants?Why do you make straw men?

Do you know what a straw man is?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:04 PM
:lol you started calling me names and making it personal and now you want to cry foul when it's turned on you.

Tough shit.

Read that back to yourself.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-16-2018, 09:05 PM
These are legal aliens working jobs legally. What exactly is the problem?

It's called symbolism, dim. This should not be hard to fathom given the whole MAGA, bringing back jobs to the US, and all the other promises he has made over the last 18 months. Throw in those companies who claimed to be creating jobs following he inauguration actually laying people off in the status quo and it's is really bad optics.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:05 PM
You are pitiful Ritchie.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:06 PM
It's called symbolism, dim. This should not be hard to fathom given the whole MAGA, bringing back jobs to the US, and all the other promises he has made over the last 18 months. Throw in those companies who claimed to be creating jobs following he inauguration actually laying people off in the status quo and it's is really bad optics.

You like Trump?

FuzzyLumpkins
01-16-2018, 09:06 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.

If they are housekeepers from central american "shitholes" then you are wrong. I'm betting they aren't from Scandinavia.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:06 PM
Read that back to yourself.Is it less of a struggle for you if I just say you did it first?

FuzzyLumpkins
01-16-2018, 09:07 PM
You like Trump?

Try and approach the issue in a manner that does not make it about me, dim. Can you do it?

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:07 PM
You are pitiful Ritchie.Do you know what a straw man is?

:lol still spelling it wrong.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:08 PM
Try and approach the issue in a manner that does not make it about me, dim. Can you do it?He instantly proved he cannot. Now he's in "nothing but personal attack" mode.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:11 PM
Try and approach the issue in a manner that does not make it about me, dim. Can you do it?

Ok, lets make it simple for you dim. There is room to reform immigration without being anti immigration like Richie.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:12 PM
Ok, lets make it simple for you dim. There is room to reform immigration without being anti immigration like Richie.Is there room for it without straw men or insecure old white bigots making it personal?

Props for finally spelling it right tho.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-16-2018, 09:18 PM
Ok, lets make it simple for you dim. There is room to reform immigration without being anti immigration like Richie.

I'm not Chump and putting his argument onto me is actually a strawman. What you think of him doing this is immaterial and your fixating on it just speaks to a severely overinflated sense of importance in you. You should be able to see how him doing this might look bad to others like independent voters given what I mentioned earlier. That is my point.

I am not going to engage in your attempts to make this about us as we don't matter when it comes to national issues. Get over yourself and try thinking outside of your ego.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:20 PM
Lol...admit you hate immigrants Richie. Is it something about...excuse my memory with acronyms...5-1-B?...are they working for less than Richie?

Blake
01-16-2018, 09:27 PM
Ritchie Ritch

That's rich

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:27 PM
Lol...admit you hate immigrants Richie. Is it something about...excuse my memory with acronyms...5-1-B?...are they working for less than Richie?:lol repeat straw man then either pretend to be stupid or really be stupid.

Quite a routine you got going there.

Have a drink and calm yourself down or something.

spurraider21
01-16-2018, 09:29 PM
:lol repeat straw man then either pretend to be stupid or really be stupid.

Quite a routine you got going there.

Have a drink and calm yourself down or something.
a very expensive drink tbh

probably not even sold in the US

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:31 PM
a very expensive drink tbh

probably not even sold in the USWHY DO YOU HATE IMMIGRANT LIQUORS RITCHIE?

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:31 PM
Funny that Fuzzy jumps in to rescue Pavlov aka chumpdumper aka fuzzylumpkins.

I would like to give you credit for Blake but he is just too fucking stupid to be your aka.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:33 PM
Funny that Fuzzy jumps in to rescue Pavlov aka chumpdumper aka fuzzylumpkins.

I would like to give you credit for Blake but he is just too fucking stupid to be your aka.Actually immigrants do the actual posting for all those screen names now.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-16-2018, 09:34 PM
Funny that Fuzzy jumps in to rescue Pavlov aka chumpdumper aka fuzzylumpkins.

I would like to give you credit for Blake but he is just too fucking stupid to be your aka.

And now we are going with the paranoid delusion version of making it about us.

Intellectual cowardice at its finest.

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 09:35 PM
These are legal aliens working jobs legally. What exactly is the problem?
Funny how the left gets all tight when we want to stop illegal immigration, then also get upright when we support legal immigration.

They must have something shoved in their butt so for it's in the head, between their eyes.

Do they not see the difference?

FuzzyLumpkins
01-16-2018, 09:37 PM
It's called symbolism, dim. This should not be hard to fathom given the whole MAGA, bringing back jobs to the US, and all the other promises he has made over the last 18 months. Throw in those companies who claimed to be creating jobs following he inauguration actually laying people off in the status quo and it's is really bad optics.

Again.

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 09:38 PM
If you paid them enough they would.

Supply and demand. No need to when you can legally get the labor.

You need to tell that to your friends that support illegal workers. Not complain about it for hiring legal workers.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:40 PM
Supply and demand. No need to when you can legally get the labor.Exaclty. Why pay Americans more when you can just exploit immigrants and distort the market?

Fuck Americans and immigrants at the same time!

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 09:40 PM
It's Trump being a hypocrite for crying about companies hiring foreign workers.

Bullshit.

The difference is legal immigrant workers vs. illegal immigrant workers.

Are you guys too fucking stupid to understand such simple concepts?

boutons_deux
01-16-2018, 09:42 PM
Trash ran on "Hire American. Buy American", so he LIED and hires, even imports NON-Americans.

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 09:42 PM
Exaclty. Why pay Americans more when you can just exploit immigrants and distort the market?

You do understand, that unemployment drops t 3.6% during this season in that area, right? Just how many of that 3.6% would take such a job?

Wild Cobra
01-16-2018, 09:43 PM
Trash ran on "Hire American. Buy American", so he LIED and hires, even imports NON-Americans.

Idiot.

That's for contracts with the government which go on longer than a short season.

CosmicCowboy
01-16-2018, 09:44 PM
Again.
You really are stupid.

Blowing up your stupid liberal dogma doesn't mean we are all Trump.

Pavlov
01-16-2018, 09:46 PM
You do understand, that unemployment drops t 3.6% during this season in that area, right? Just how many of that 3.6% would take such a job?The article found two without really trying. Imagine who Trump could find if he did more than take out a single print ad asking for application by fax.

AaronY
01-16-2018, 10:01 PM
You do understand, that unemployment drops t 3.6% during this season in that area, right? Just how many of that 3.6% would take such a job?
If you raised wages more honkies would be willing to do these jobs. Isn't that the whole premise behind restricting immigration

ElNono
01-16-2018, 10:04 PM
Trump and/or Republicans have never been against legal immigration and claiming otherwise is just ignorant.

What do you think the lottery is? So they're not against legal immigration, but legal immigration from certain countries only?

Why would a Norwegian come to the US to work menial jobs at Mar A Lago?

(they're rhetorical questions, BTW)

ElNono
01-16-2018, 10:06 PM
Just saw hater beat me to it :lol

Chris
01-16-2018, 10:38 PM
So?
I prefer the Canadian system where they actually screen immigrants that can assimilate and bring value.

AG Sessions agrees with you.

953441805873369089

Blake
01-17-2018, 12:33 AM
AG Sessions agrees with you.

953441805873369089

Does Jesus Christ?

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 12:44 AM
The article found two without really trying. Imagine who Trump could find if he did more than take out a single print ad asking for application by fax.

Yes, unemployed people will lie and say they will work, else lose their unemployment benefits if speaking with the wrong person. I'm sure if they looked, that there were job postings. He did hire locals too.

Pavlov
01-17-2018, 12:46 AM
Yes, unemployed people will lie and say they will work, else lose their unemployment benefits if speaking with the wrong person. I'm sure if they looked, that there were job postings. He did hire locals too."I'm sure"

:lol

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 12:46 AM
If you raised wages more honkies would be willing to do these jobs. Isn't that the whole premise behind restricting immigration

You're putting the cart before the horse, and not understanding that limited legal immigration is good. It's the illegal immigration that is hurting us.

Do yo want to restrict legal immigration more, because of the illegal immigration?

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 12:53 AM
Why would a Norwegian come to the US to work menial jobs at Mar A Lago?


It would be a perfect job for a kid that graduated HS and wanted to see another part of the world.

ElNono
01-17-2018, 01:32 AM
It would be a perfect job for a kid that graduated HS and wanted to see another part of the world.

That wouldn't be an immigrant...

ElNono
01-17-2018, 01:33 AM
I guess some people still don't understand what's an immigrant... it's somebody that moves to live permanently in another country.

They're not 'temporary workers', that's a completely different classification.

boutons_deux
01-17-2018, 01:42 AM
Idiot.

That's for contracts with the government which go on longer than a short season.

Where did Trash say his dictum applied only to govt business? :lol

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 02:51 AM
That wouldn't be an immigrant...

I meant a kid from another country that wanted to see the USA, but needed a job too.

is that so hard to imagine? I know there are people out there. Even the USA. I have a daughter that would jump on the chance to go to Japan if she could work there.

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 02:52 AM
I guess some people still don't understand what's an immigrant... it's somebody that moves to live permanently in another country.

They're not 'temporary workers', that's a completely different classification.

OK, you are correct on the word usage. Thanx for the correction. These visa's are temporary, why the big heartache over them?

You are an immigrant. Do you understand the appeal?

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 02:54 AM
Where did Trash say his dictum applied only to govt business? :lol

What compels you to think otherwise?

ElNono
01-17-2018, 03:22 AM
I meant a kid from another country that wanted to see the USA, but needed a job too.

is that so hard to imagine? I know there are people out there. Even the USA. I have a daughter that would jump on the chance to go to Japan if she could work there.

Yes it is. Tourist visas do not allow you to work. Temporary work visas of the kind that don't require a specialty job or are specifically agricultural have different requirements.

The current (legal) immigration system is pretty strict, and even more strict with temporary visas.



OK, you are correct on the word usage. Thanx for the correction. These visa's are temporary, why the big heartache over them?

You are an immigrant. Do you understand the appeal?

The only visa I can remotely think you're mentioning is a H2B. These are the requirements:
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/h-2b-work-visa-requirements-fees-application-process.html

Notice they can bring family with them and you can only qualify if your employer already exhausted the search for employees in the US (which they have to document). Furthermore, there's a 33000 limit per semester.

As an immigrant I understand the system. This is the kind of gamesmanship of the system to hire people for less money. It's what's wrong with the system.

I understand he's a businessman trying to save a buck and a completely fake person, so I'm not really surprised, tbh...

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 04:00 AM
As an immigrant I understand the system. This is the kind of gamesmanship of the system to hire people for less money. It's what's wrong with the system.

Depending on the cost difference, I may or may not agree with you.



I understand he's a businessman trying to save a buck and a completely fake person, so I'm not really surprised, tbh...
So what are the rules about who pays for the travel expenses? Who do these apply to?

Now I think you understand from my past posts, I am all for raising wages to a suitable point to attract workers. But I read there is only a 3.6% employment rate during this tourist season. I'm pretty sure all who have sought work in the tourist industry have it, unless they have burned bridges by being a bad worker. Now I imagine advertising could bring workers in from elsewhere. Now, who pays the room and board for relocated employee, of either USA, or foreign country?

Now I also read, I think when this came up last year, that part of the allure at his place is having foreign hostesses. It sure would be appreciated by me! I would surly be more likely to go there each year than somewhere else... You see, this might not be about saving employee costs, it might be about the character he wants his location to have. We simply don't know for fact. I don't particularly like hateful gossip as if it's fact. I don't like any gossip for that matter, and I absolutely despise people who claim facts from rumor, when there are no facts. I just see this as another hate-mongering thread.

On the flip side, if I recall, these foreign, mostly women, are coming from eastern former Soviet sates. Like I said before, I love the accent of these women. I can understand this if what he is doing, and would be an appreciative costumer if I had that type on money to spend.

--- I sidetracked myself...

I was going to say, he probably does have business connections in Russia. I would be surprised if he didn't. He might have connections to bring in specific girls, who want to meet up with Americans, get married, and stay here. Who knows. Maybe the hooker allegation are true. I don't believe they are, but what if? Maybe he's bringing in foreign whores for his rich friends?

Lots of possibility's, but we really don't know. To immediately play it of as flip-flopping isn't necessarily true, and bad form. He targeted specific groups of people on his immigration views.

Spurtacular
01-17-2018, 04:01 AM
Yes it is. Tourist visas do not allow you to work. Temporary work visas of the kind that don't require a specialty job or are specifically agricultural have different requirements.

The current (legal) immigration system is pretty strict, and even more strict with temporary visas.




The only visa I can remotely think you're mentioning is a H2B. These are the requirements:
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/h-2b-work-visa-requirements-fees-application-process.html

Notice they can bring family with them and you can only qualify if your employer already exhausted the search for employees in the US (which they have to document). Furthermore, there's a 33000 limit per semester.

As an immigrant I understand the system. This is the kind of gamesmanship of the system to hire people for less money. It's what's wrong with the system.

I understand he's a businessman trying to save a buck and a completely fake person, so I'm not really surprised, tbh...

Liberals should be celebrating. Helping the people out of their shitholes n' all and "doing the jobs everyday Americans won't do."

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 04:05 AM
Liberals should be celebrating. Helping the people out of their shitholes n' all and "doing the jobs everyday Americans won't do."

Those aren't the people he's hiring.

ElNono
01-17-2018, 04:48 AM
Liberals should be celebrating. Helping the people out of their shitholes n' all and "doing the jobs everyday Americans won't do."

I won't disagree with that, but then let's call a spade a spade. There's no point in semen shielding this stuff, tbh, it happens every year and a lot of companies benefit from it. The obvious answer is offer more money and Americans will do it, but then the price of the goods will shoot up.

This is why any kind of talk about reforming the immigration system has to go beyond soundbites, tbh... it will also help if people in the conversation actually know how the current system even works.

The legal immigration system in the US is pretty tough and expensive. The weak areas are the ones we know: anchor babies, fake marriages, etc. Don't know the solutions to those weak spots, but I also don't see any chatter about that past the campaign trail.

ElNono
01-17-2018, 04:50 AM
Those aren't the people he's hiring.

you don't know who he hired...

FuzzyLumpkins
01-17-2018, 05:58 AM
You really are stupid.

Blowing up your stupid liberal dogma doesn't mean we are all Trump.

That is an amusing accusation given that nothing in that post claimed that, speaking to your reading comprehension. You should be able to understand how this action of his would look bad to independent voters.

spurraider21
01-17-2018, 01:00 PM
I won't disagree with that, but then let's call a spade a spade. There's no point in semen shielding this stuff, tbh, it happens every year and a lot of companies benefit from it. The obvious answer is offer more money and Americans will do it, but then the price of the goods will shoot up.

This is why any kind of talk about reforming the immigration system has to go beyond soundbites, tbh... it will also help if people in the conversation actually know how the current system even works.

The legal immigration system in the US is pretty tough and expensive. The weak areas are the ones we know: anchor babies, fake marriages, etc. Don't know the solutions to those weak spots, but I also don't see any chatter about that past the campaign trail.
:lol i've gotten that joke more than once from my friends since my wife is an immigrant. havent had our interview yet, tho hoping to get everything cleared up by june/july so she can apply to schools...

Wild Cobra
01-17-2018, 01:07 PM
you don't know who he hired...

This time around, you are correct. But he does this every year and has hired eastern Europeans in the past. Not the cheap border labor.