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Chris
01-16-2018, 07:06 PM
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence, founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what they hope will eventually lead to statehood.
To be clear, they don’t want to leave the United States, just California.
“Well, it’s been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, education, you name it, and we’re rated around 48th or 50th from a business climate and standpoint in California,” said founder Robert Paul Preston.
The state of New California would incorporate most of the state’s rural counties, leaving the urban coastal counties to the current state of California.
“There’s something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed,” Preston said.
But unlike other separation movements in the past the state of New California wants to do things by the book, citing Article 4, Section 3 of the US Constitution and working with the state legislature to get it done, similar to the way West Virginia was formed.
“Yes. We have to demonstrate that we can govern ourselves before we are allowed to govern,” said founder Tom Reed.
And despite obstacles, doubters, and obvious long odds the group stands united in their statehood dream.
The group is organized with committees and a council of county representatives, but say it will take 10 to 18 months before they are ready to fully engage with the state legislature.
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/01/15/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/
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Monostradamus
01-16-2018, 07:20 PM
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What? Google's new expansion in San Jose is not in New California? For shame.
AaronY
01-16-2018, 07:25 PM
Meanwhile Kansas seeded with Republican style tax cuts continues to grow
Chris
01-16-2018, 07:41 PM
What? Google's new expansion in San Jose is not in New California? For shame.
Off topic, I have moved to duckduckgo a much more reliable search engine that doesn't filter or censor anything.
spurraider21
01-16-2018, 07:44 PM
Off topic, I have moved to duckduckgo a much more reliable search engine that doesn't filter or censor anything.
:lol boycott google
you'd probably have to use google to find your new search engine tho
Chris
01-16-2018, 07:47 PM
:lol boycott google
you'd probably have to use google to find your new search engine tho
Scary how it automatically redirects to google search engine on this browser (Opera) but the built in VPN and spam blocker are worth it.
Off topic, I have moved to duckduckgo a much more reliable search engine that doesn't filter or censor anything.
ducks would like that :-)
Spurtacular
01-16-2018, 07:50 PM
Adam and his guest droppin' truth bombs, tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZgrdjQoiQU
Th'Pusher
01-16-2018, 08:22 PM
Scary how it automatically redirects to google search engine on this browser (Opera) but the built in VPN and spam blocker are worth it.
Wtf? Who uses Opera in the US?
pgardn
01-16-2018, 08:23 PM
This is serious stuff.
What happens when Austin declares independence from Texas?
spurraider21
01-16-2018, 08:37 PM
fine. take all the people who voted for the Governator and go create your own shithole state
fine. take all the people who voted for the Governator and go create your own shithole state
You don't like Brown?
spurraider21
01-16-2018, 08:55 PM
You don't like Brown?
governator = schwarzenneger
and im not a huge fan of brown. he's done some good. most notably getting the budget deficit under control
http://www.trbimg.com/img-58755359/turbine/la-me-g-state-budget-20170110/750/750x422
but i also think he's an asshole. my brother in law calls him pragmatic, i just think he's dishonest. for me prop 30 from 2012 still leaves a pretty bitter taste in my mouth. he basically said "if you dont agree to raise taxes (sales tax + income tax on high income earners ), then i'm going to have to cut the UC budget." it was a really shitty sales pitch where he held our university system hostage. this was also supposed to promise students that they wouldnt see tuition hikes. it was also sold as a temporary measure. it was even called "temporary taxes to fund education." of course then 4 years later they then revealed prop 55 four years later to make those tax hikes permanent. oh yeah and tuitions went up anyway. whoopsie
its the principle of how he got it across that always rubbed me the wrong way. held schools hostage, assured they would be temporary, etc.
ducks
01-16-2018, 09:15 PM
ducks would like that :-)
Thumbs up
governator = schwarzenneger
and im not a huge fan of brown. he's done some good. most notably getting the budget deficit under control
http://www.trbimg.com/img-58755359/turbine/la-me-g-state-budget-20170110/750/750x422
but i also think he's an asshole. my brother in law calls him pragmatic, i just think he's dishonest. for me prop 30 from 2012 still leaves a pretty bitter taste in my mouth. he basically said "if you dont agree to raise taxes (sales tax + income tax on high income earners ), then i'm going to have to cut the UC budget." it was a really shitty sales pitch where he held our university system hostage. this was also supposed to promise students that they wouldnt see tuition hikes. it was also sold as a temporary measure. it was even called "temporary taxes to fund education." of course then 4 years later they then revealed prop 55 four years later to make those tax hikes permanent. oh yeah and tuitions went up anyway. whoopsie
its the principle of how he got it across that always rubbed me the wrong way. held schools hostage, assured they would be temporary, etc.
Taxes are never temporary. It's like Miami-Dade's 1/2 penny tax for transportation and Metro-Rail that didn't go anywhere. They just use it for general maintenance and would never roll it back.
spurraider21
01-16-2018, 09:28 PM
Taxes are never temporary. It's like Miami-Dade's 1/2 penny tax for transportation and Metro-Rail that didn't go anywhere. They just use it for general maintenance and would never roll it back.
its not even that i'm fundamentally opposed to the taxes. its the way brown went about selling it
boutons_deux
01-16-2018, 09:28 PM
I can imagine the governmental/managerial talent among the yahoos dreaming of New California.
Chucho
01-16-2018, 10:04 PM
its not even that i'm fundamentally opposed to the taxes. its the way brown went about selling it
...and how he's been doing it since- without any care for feedback from the people.
Chucho
01-16-2018, 10:08 PM
"Wait...It'd be fiscally responsible if I and other state legislators cut our pay? Nope...we're gonna raise that shit nearly 20% in 5 years." -Jerry Brown
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