Republicans lack votes to prevent a shutdown

[Pavlov]

No I wont. Trumps a tool but he didnt create this dysfunctional senate.Your excuse for dealmaster Trump is the dysfunctional senate.

[Pavlov]

Immigration is totally different from the budget. And you call that crap that was brought to Trump - a deal?Sure, would've kept the government operating instead of embarrassing himself and all you Trump supporters.

[CosmicCowboy]

We have the crazy cruz right and the far left crazies fucking everything up. You know it and I know it. Quit acting like boutons.

[Pavlov]

We have the crazy cruz right and the far left crazies fucking everything up. You know it and I know it. Quit acting like boutons.Defend Trump as much as you feel you have to.

[CosmicCowboy]

Fuck it. Keep talking to yourself, bouchump. im out.

[Pavlov]

Don't blame muh Trump!

[hitmanyr2k]

The funny thing is both Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham gave Schumer all the ammunition he needed this week with their comments on Trump's leadership being so wishy-washy and non-committal during these negotiations. If Republicans and the GOP Senate majority leader don't know where the President stands and he keeps flip flopping because his hardliners are running the show behind the scenes then how are they supposed to know how to negotiate or what he'll sign? McConnell and Graham basically under-scored Schumer's assessment of Trump changing his mind every hour. If I was in Schumer's shoes I would have had these quotes from McConnell and Graham on a video ad prepped and ready to go lol...

"I'm looking for something that President Trump supports, and he has not yet indicated what measure he is willing to sign. As soon as we figure out what he is for, then I would be convinced that we were not just spinning our wheels." - Mitch McConnell.

"It’s going to take you, Mr. President, working with Republicans and Democrats to get this done. It’s not going to be done on Twitter, by tweeting, it’s going to be done by talking and understanding." - Lindsey Graham

"So Tuesday, we had a president that I was proud to golf with, call my friend, who understood immigration had to be bipartisan, you had to have border security as essential, you have border security with a wall, but he also understood the idea that we had to do it with compassion. I don’t know where that guy went. I want him back." - Lindsey Graham

[Reck]

Lee and Paul - why don't you drop the philosophical world and join reality?

:lol

Such a trumpian response.

:lol Also any trumpie telling anyone to get back to reality. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol

Such a trumpian response.

:lol Also any trumpie telling anyone to get back to reality. :lol

Qualifications to be a trumptard.

-Must have difficulty spelling potato
-Must believe the CIA killed people in las vegas

[spurraider21]

Those were your words. You didn't read my post or that article.
i was responding to the first article you posted. it talked about having illegals working in registration drives. said nothing about them voting. your articles words (or lack of), not mine



Not sure what you are rambling about here. Are you saying there's no such thing as voter fraud?
i was responding to the second article you posted, which cited to a study. the study relied on statistics from a separate study. the authors of that separate study have said they distorted their figures. if you took the time to read, you would understand that instead of "not understanding what i was rambling about"

i never said voter fraud doesn't exist. im saying the amount of voter fraud that can be attributed to illegal immigrants voting is negligible


I'm betting you didn't read anything, just writing it off as a conspiracy - which is fine. That is your prerogative.
no. i read both articles and responded to their substance.

[Trainwreck2100]

Qualifications to be a trumptard.

-Must have difficulty spelling potato
-Must believe the CIA killed people in las vegas
Brah it was the NSA, everybody knows that

[baseline bum]

60 votes are needed in the senate to close debate and bring a measure to a vote. Someone has to be up there debating for that to be at issue. If a senator would get up to the podium and filibuster then a) we would have seen it, and b) he/she received all of the blame.

McConnell could have gotten the measure passed through reconciliation or through regular channels if he had gotten 51 votes. Flake, Graham, Lee, Paul, etc voted no.

Nevermind that the senate brought Trump a bill that he rejected at the beginning of the week starting this whole mess.

People need to use more critical thinking and less GOP talking points.

Didn't they already use their reconciliation bill for the fiscal year with the Trump tax cuts/hikes?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Didn't they already use their reconciliation bill for the fiscal year with the Trump tax cuts/hikes?

Reconciliation is "once per topic" and they have not used it on the debt ceiling AFAIK. Regardless, if no one is up debating a measure then there doesn't need to be a vote to close debate making the filibuster moot. There would be no better way to place blame squarely on oneself than to be up on the podium grandstanding a debate as the countdown winded to a finish.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No I wont. Trumps a tool but he didnt create this dysfunctional senate.

The senate presented him with a bill that he vetoed on Monday. His action directly led to the impasse and had he not dones so wee would not be here.

[spurraider21]

The senate presented him with a bill that he vetoed on Monday. His action directly led to the impasse and had he not dones so wee would not be here.
what bill was vetoed?

[Reck]

what bill was vetoed?

He's likely talking about the bipartisan Durbin/Graham bill they presented to Trump and he said no to in that shithole meeting.

Not really officially vetoed but close enough.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

hot take: they'll just raise the debt ceiling


which is why its not worth the hoopla


House approves stopgap spending bill to prevent shutdown

:lol fuzzy


inb4 :cry something something something, dim :cry


probably true. but op says "house republicans are short of the votes they need"


yeah, no. the article headline said they lacked the votes to avoid a shutdown. they just got the votes to avoid a shutdown. they'll continue kicking the can until republicans fall in line. but as of now, they got the votes needed to avoid a shutdown.

whether they have the votes to pass a full budget proposal is a different question that the article spent time talking about.


yeah there was a shutdown for a couple of weeks while i was in college. except in that case, they weren't able to kick the can even once, while the current congress has done so a few times already. that was also a republican house sending deals over to a democrat senate. its not the same situation, dim

Was Trump presented a bill from the senate earlier this week? He threatened to veto it so they withdrew it but it's there just the same.

Meanwhile, you should eat your shit sandwich instead of trying to score points on a point of fact like a douchebag, dim.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He's likely talking about the bipartisan Durbin/Graham bill they presented to Trump and he said no to in that shithole meeting.

Not really officially vetoed but close enough.

:tu

[ducks]

“Democrats stuck to demands that any short-term spending legislation must include protections for young undocumented immigrants known as "Dreamers." Republicans in turn said they would not negotiate on immigration until Democrats gave them the votes needed to reopen the government". Unquote. - Just remember, it was the Democrats / Liberals not the Republicans / Conservatives, who shut down the Government because they want Illegal Immigrant Hispanics and the DACA Dreamers to be granted U.S. Citizenship and for Democrat Voting numbers. So if you as an Government employee, a Retiree, an Elderly, Senior Citizen, are Disabled, or are Military, and you don’t get your next Government issued paycheck, then you know who, and which political party to blame for you not getting it, or not getting it on time.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

“Democrats stuck to demands that any short-term spending legislation must include protections for young undocumented immigrants known as "Dreamers." Republicans in turn said they would not negotiate on immigration until Democrats gave them the votes needed to reopen the government". Unquote. - Just remember, it was the Democrats / Liberals not the Republicans / Conservatives, who shut down the Government because they want Illegal Immigrant Hispanics and the DACA Dreamers to be granted U.S. Citizenship and for Democrat Voting numbers. So if you as an Government employee, a Retiree, an Elderly, Senior Citizen, are Disabled, or are Military, and you don’t get your next Government issued paycheck, then you know who, and which political party to blame for you not getting it, or not getting it on time.

Who has the majority in both chambers and the WH?

Who was presented a bipartisan bill earlier this week and rejected it because he wanted a wall to be funded?

[ducks]

Tim 54 min ago
So the Democrats are not paying our military and freezing funding to blackmail to keep illegals in America. I will never vote Democrat again!! And I have been a life long Democrat.

[rmt]

“Democrats stuck to demands that any short-term spending legislation must include protections for young undocumented immigrants known as "Dreamers." Republicans in turn said they would not negotiate on immigration until Democrats gave them the votes needed to reopen the government". Unquote. - Just remember, it was the Democrats / Liberals not the Republicans / Conservatives, who shut down the Government because they want Illegal Immigrant Hispanics and the DACA Dreamers to be granted U.S. Citizenship and for Democrat Voting numbers. So if you as an Government employee, a Retiree, an Elderly, Senior Citizen, are Disabled, or are Military, and you don’t get your next Government issued paycheck, then you know who, and which political party to blame for you not getting it, or not getting it on time.

Or work for a military contractor.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Many more Americans blame President Trump and the GOP than Democrats for the possible government shutdown looming Friday, according to a new poll from The Washington Post and ABC News.

The poll finds that 48 percent of respondents said that Trump and Republicans would be responsible for a shutdown, compared to 28 percent who said Democrats are to blame.

Eighteen percent of respondents said that the two parties share blame.

And 46 percent of independents said they blame Trump and Republicans, compared to 25 percent who blame Democrats.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/369748-poll-more-blame-trump-and-gop-for-possible-shutdown-than-dems

[ducks]

Who has the majority in both chambers and the WH?

Who was presented a bipartisan bill earlier this week and rejected it because he wanted a wall to be funded?

The majority in senate is one hardly 60 to get things passed
If chuck gave money to fund wall tell Mexico pays it back it would have been done

Trump said let’s fix the boarder problem with wall security with the DACA bill
He does not want the dreamers here but willing to do that to get wall

[ducks]

Many more Americans blame President Trump and the GOP than Democrats for the possible government shutdown looming Friday, according to a new poll from The Washington Post and ABC News.

The poll finds that 48 percent of respondents said that Trump and Republicans would be responsible for a shutdown, compared to 28 percent who said Democrats are to blame.

Eighteen percent of respondents said that the two parties share blame.

And 46 percent of independents said they blame Trump and Republicans, compared to 25 percent who blame Democrats.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/369748-poll-more-blame-trump-and-gop-for-possible-shutdown-than-dems

CNN poll said democrat fault

[Trainwreck2100]

Tim 54 min ago
So the Democrats are not paying our military and freezing funding to blackmail to keep illegals in America. I will never vote Democrat again!! And I have been a life long Democrat.

The dems tried to get the military paid mcconnel objected

[rmt]

The senate presented him with a bill that he vetoed on Monday. His action directly led to the impasse and had he not dones so wee would not be here.

How can Trump veto a bill that hasn't been through the House? One that hasn't even been voted on in the Senate.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The majority in senate is one hardly 60 to get things passed
If chuck gave money to fund wall tell Mexico pays it back it would have been done

Trump said let’s fix the boarder problem with wall security with the DACA bill
He does not want the dreamers here but willing to do that to get wall

60 is required to end a filibuster, dim. Nobody was debating on the floor.

:lol you think Mexico is going to pay for the wall.

[ducks]

Knowing Hill they poll 2 out of 3 democracts

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How can Trump veto a bill that hasn't been through the House? One that hasn't even been voted on in the Senate.

He said he would veto it which is ostensibly the same thing. This should not be a hard concept.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Knowing Hill they interview 2 out of 3 democracts

You think the Hill leans left? :lmao

[ducks]

He said he would veto it which is ostensibly the same thing. This should not be a hard concept.

Never even passed no one has the balls to make trump veto a bill?

[rmt]

He said he would veto it which is ostensibly the same thing. This should not be a hard concept.

I'll place money on that crock of a proposal not getting through the Senate - much less the House.

[ducks]

Rebuplicans passed things to make former president veto it

[ducks]

Donkeys are a lazy welfare people group
Spread the weath
Hate working

[FuzzyLumpkins]

CNN poll said democrat fault

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump-immigration-daca/index.html

The polls said that they 21% blamed Trump, 26% blamed Ryan and McConnell's boys, and and 31% democrats.

That would be 47% to 31% --a 16 point margin-- which is similar to this most recent poll. I get that you were misled by a right wing site who didn't add the Trump/ GOP figures together but its there just the same.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'll place money on that crock of a proposal not getting through the Senate - much less the House.

Who gives a shit. It was scuttled days ago but if you want to grandstand on unprovable nonsense then have at it.

[spurraider21]

Was Trump presented a bill from the senate earlier this week? He threatened to veto it so they withdrew it but it's there just the same.

Meanwhile, you should eat your shit sandwich instead of trying to score points on a point of fact like a douchebag, dim.
yeah i was wrong about a shutdown being avoided altogether, though i was not wrong about the house getting a bill put together

i was legitimately curious about your veto comment, but ok, keep trying to compete for internet points

[rmt]

Who gives a shit. It was scuttled days ago but if you want to grandstand on unprovable nonsense then have at it.


The senate presented him with a bill that he vetoed on Monday. His action directly led to the impasse and had he not dones so wee would not be here.

Well, pardon me - who's the one who brought up the subject using not correct terms?

[spurraider21]

CNN poll said democrat fault
CNN polls good now

[boutons_deux]

Clean DACA

Clean CHIP

Or nothing,

do the Dems have the spine?

[rmt]

Clean DACA

Clean CHIP

Or nothing,

do the Dems have the spine?

So, bou, when I go in to work on Monday and tell them that my dh gets paid through the end of the month (only because the contracted company got paid ahead of time) but that all the military (less those manning only one open security gate) and civilians at SouthCom (Southern Command) don't report to work, who do you think they are going to sympathize with? It's not so bad for us since I'm working now and we have reserves, but those living pay check to pay check (and there are many), how will they fare? All this - over illegal immigrants. Now I have to find out what happens to our health and dental insurance past the end of the month - do they continue if dh doesn't get a pay check (and so doesn't pay the dependent portion)?

[Pavlov]

So, bou, when I go in to work on Monday and tell them that my dh gets paid through the end of the month (only because the contracted company got paid ahead of time) but that all the military (less those manning only one open security gate) and civilians at SouthCom (Southern Command) don't report to work, who do you think they are going to sympathize with? It's not so bad for us since I'm working now and we have reserves, but those living pay check to pay check (and there are many), how will they fare? All this - over illegal immigrants. Now I have to find out what happens to our health and dental insurance past the end of the month - do they continue if dh doesn't get a pay check (and so doesn't pay the dependent portion)?Trump and the Republicans should never have put these people under that threat in the first place.

It's all on them.

[Chris]

The senate presented him with a bill that he vetoed on Monday. His action directly led to the impasse and had he not dones so wee would not be here.

Liar.

[rmt]

Trump and the Republicans should never have put these people under that threat in the first place.

It's all on them.

You may have your opinion. And I have mine.

[ducks]

230 democracts voted to shutdown the government

[Pavlov]

You may have your opinion. And I have mine.The threat of shutdown exists because Republicans want it to.

It's all on them.

[ducks]

https://youtu.be/U-nm0vQwO5c

[ducks]

The threat of shutdown exists because Republicans want it to.

It's all on them.

Not a threat it happened 230 democracts votes for shutdown

[Pavlov]

Not a threat it happened 230 democracts votes for shutdownIt's a threat because Republicans want it to be.

And they're rightfully getting the blame.

[ducks]

Government shutdown yesterday not a threat anymore
Things closed some today because of it but keep saying threat
It happened. Not threat reality

[Pavlov]

Government shutdown yesterday not a threat anymore
Things closed some today because of it but keep saying threat
It happened. Not threat realityIt's a threat in the first place because Republicans want to threaten with it.

It's all on them.

That's reality.

[ducks]

Democracts want something to slow trump winning
Market is 26,000
Jobs for woman and blacks Hispanics up
Confidence is high
Hell cnn poll says trump approver rating is going up

Democracts wanted the shutdown knowing media will try to blame Republicans
Media trying but people are not stupid
They elected trump over Clinton

[Pavlov]

Democracts want something to slow trump winning
Market is 26,000
Jobs for woman and blacks Hispanics up
Confidence is high
Hell cnn poll says trump approver rating is going up

Democracts wanted the shutdown knowing media will try to blame Republicans
Media trying but people are not stupid
They elected trump over ClintonWell, the electoral college did.

He was still behind by a couple million votes.

[Reck]

Tim 54 min ago
So the Democrats are not paying our military and freezing funding to blackmail to keep illegals in America. I will never vote Democrat again!! And I have been a life long Democrat.

ok

[Reck]

Knowing Hill they poll 2 out of 3 democracts

:lol CNN is the Hillary network but their poll is more favorable than the rest, so CNN good now. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Liar.

:lol like you have credibility, conspiratard.

[Reck]

954872169774841857

Trump walking into a buzz saw. :lol

:lol Getting rawdogged by someone who not only served in the military but was a lieutenant colonel. :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You can always tell when ducks is worried about something. he starts to spam.

[Th'Pusher]

So, bou, when I go in to work on Monday and tell them that my dh gets paid through the end of the month (only because the contracted company got paid ahead of time) but that all the military (less those manning only one open security gate) and civilians at SouthCom (Southern Command) don't report to work, who do you think they are going to sympathize with? It's not so bad for us since I'm working now and we have reserves, but those living pay check to pay check (and there are many), how will they fare? All this - over illegal immigrants. Now I have to find out what happens to our health and dental insurance past the end of the month - do they continue if dh doesn't get a pay check (and so doesn't pay the dependent portion)?

I do love the fact that both you and your husband suckle from the government teet.

[DMX7]

#TrumpShutDown

[rmt]

I do love the fact that both you and your husband suckle from the government teet.

My dh works for a private company (military contractor) - he does not get a pension or an absurd amount of vacation/sick days and works on most major (what people consider) holidays - meaning puts up with all the government rules/regulations (crap) but none of the perks. After a lifetime of working for small/micro companies, I convinced him to try somewhere large - maybe it's time to move on. And I'm glad that I'm providing such amusement for you instead of the normal I'm sure outrage.

[rmt]

And what an eye opener it has been - what incredible waste and after hearing about what is expected security wise - Hillary should definitely be behind bars.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And what an eye opener it has been - what incredible waste and after hearing about what is expected security wise - Hillary should definitely be behind bars.

*ding*

[pgardn]

My dh works for a private company (military contractor) - he does not get a pension or an absurd amount of vacation/sick days and works on most major (what people consider) holidays - meaning puts up with all the government rules/regulations (crap) but none of the perks. After a lifetime of working for small/micro companies, I convinced him to try somewhere large - maybe it's time to move on. And I'm glad that I'm providing such amusement for you instead of the normal I'm sure outrage.

You still are making money via government money. The military has a need, it contracts this out.

Damn big government spending too much on weapons and such. If we were more efficient and streamlined in the military we would not have this problem. Anyone who has been in the military, or has relatives in the military, has seen the waste. And it's inevitable with an organization of such size. When the government has programs that are so vast, there will be waste. So now the different parties pick and choose where the waste is ok... And you rationalize the waste just like any government bureaucrat would.

[pgardn]

Both parties think they can get the public to lay blame on the other.

CNN and FOX will be the entertainment for this little game.

Schumer has already brought Trump's incoherent message into play. Trump is like negotiating with Jello. McConell and Ryan know this well. And now we got the House and Senate saying they can't push each other. It's a maze of blame.

[boutons_deux]

McConnell Pushes Back On Trump Tweet Urging GOPers To Use ‘Nuclear Option’

pushed back on President Donald Trump’s suggestion that Senate Republicans should change the chamber’s rules to pass a long-term spending bill with 51 votes if negotiations remain fruitless.

“The Republican Conference opposes changing the rules on legislation,” a spokesperson for McConnell told TPM in an email.



Trump on Sunday urged (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-if-shutdown-stalemate-continues-senate-should-go-to-nuclear-option) Senate Republicans to “go to 51%” :lol incorrigibly stupid fucker

if negotiations regarding the ongoing government shutdown remain in a stalemate.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mcconnell-pushes-back-on-trump-nuclear-option-suggestion?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[Capt Bringdown]

The debt ceiling is an artificial constraint on government spending, as is deficit mania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=TDL4c8fMODk

[boutons_deux]

The debt ceiling is an artificial constraint on government spending, as is deficit mania.


It's a restraint when Dems are spending, it's not a restraint when Repugs are spending

[Capt Bringdown]

It's a restraint when Dems are spending, it's not a restraint when Repugs are spending

As usual, you miss the point entirely in an inane attempt to make this a D vs R issue. Both parties willfully misunderstand how modern money works.

[boutons_deux]

As usual, you miss the point entirely in an inane attempt to make this a D vs R issue. Both parties willfully misunderstand how modern money works.

fuck "understanding modern money". The only thing that counts is govt/Fed policy and laws by whichever party is spending.

[Trill Clinton]

Good afternoon
955069735619657728

[boutons_deux]

Trash family genetic stupidity

In A Colossal Blunder, Eric Trump Wrecks The GOP Cover Story Blaming Democrats For The Shutdown

Eric Trump said,

“My father has incredible momentum. :lol

He has gotten more done in one year than arguably any president in history. :lol

How do they divert from that message? How do they save their own party when they don’t have any leadership. :lol

They don’t have any good candidates out there. They don’t have a message of their own. How do they do that? They obstruct. They distract, and they try and place blame.

It’s the worst of government, and honestly, I think it’s a good thing for us.” :lol :lol :lol :lol

Trump’s son was echoing the thinking of the president, who

[Trash ] has expressed on numerous occasions his support for a government shutdown, and

how he believed he could benefit politically from damaging the lives of others.

http://www.politicususa.com/2018/01/21/colossal-blunder-eric-trump-wrecks-gop-cover-story-blaming-democrats-shutdown.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

Sad Trump spent day watching videos of himself attacking Obama for last shutdown

"The president's the leader and he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead," citizen Trump said.

a White House aide, said that President Donald Trump spent the day frustrated and angry (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/us/politics/trump-shutdown.html), watching videos of himself in 2013 attacking President Obama’s leadership during the shutdown that happened that year (https://thinkprogress.org/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-government-shutdown-82bee7ec00be/):

On Saturday, the president was left alternately defiant and angry, self-pitying and frustrated.

He argued to aides that he did not deserve the blame he was taking, :lol

but without a credible deal on the table, there was little for him to do.

Irritated to have missed his big event in Florida, :lol

Mr. Trump spent much of his day watching old TV clips of him berating President Barack Obama :lol

for a lack of leadership during the 2013 government shutdown, a White House aide said, seeming content to sit back and watch the show.


Trump told Fox and Friends (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/369756-trumps-comments-blaming-obama-for-2013-government-shutdown-resurface) the president has to lead and solve problems during a shutdown or deserves the blame:



Problems start from the top :lol

and have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader and he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead. :lol

And he doesn’t do that. In 25 years and 50 years and 100 years from now, when the government —

they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States. :lol

Who was the president at that time?

They’re not going to be talking who the head of the House was, the head of the Senate.


https://thinkprogress.org/trump-blames-shutdown-27ba14ba14ec/ (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-blames-shutdown-27ba14ba14ec/)

Echoes of another mentally deranged Repug Pres, St Ronnie the Diseased Bozo, passing his evenings in the WH watching, "working"?, decades-old Western B-movie garbage, lots of gun fights, Ms of dead Indians.

[Axl Rose]

Well, the electoral college did.

He was still behind by a couple million votes.muh popular vote

[Pavlov]

muh popular vote
954504252763680773

[boutons_deux]

"They reportedly scrapped a Democratic offer for $20 billion worth of border wall funding (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-support-legal-status-dreamers-exchange-border-wall/story?id=52501017) and are holding out for a conservative overhaul of the legal immigration system."

“Every time we have a proposal, it is yanked back by staff members,” Graham, one of the key Republicans in immigration talks, told reporters Sunday afternoon.

“As long as Steven Miller is in charge of negotiating immigration we are going nowhere. He’s been an outlier for years.”

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/21/16916344/john-kelly-trump-white-house-daca-senate-graham-durbin

So Trash, GREAT EXECUTIVE AND LEADER :lol, is being operated by a racist 30 year old punk, and vets-are-superior-citizens Kelly, plus the racist Freedom Kockus.

[boutons_deux]

Christian supremacist as DUMB as a bag of hammers, insulting the military's intelligence (maybe)

Pence accuses Congress of playing politics with military pay

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/01/21/pence-accuses-congress-of-playing-politics-with-military-pay/

[boutons_deux]

Trump Is So Toxic That A GOP Senator Tells Him To Stay Away From Shutdown Negotiations


http://www.politicususa.com/2018/01/21/republican-sen-susan-collins-tells-trump-stay-senate-shutdown-negotiations.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

Lindsey Graham wants anti-immigration nut Stephen Miller booted from negotiations: ‘We are going nowhere’


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/lindsey-graham-wants-anti-immigration-nut-stephen-miller-booted-from-negotiations-we-are-going-nowhere/

[boutons_deux]

NYT political analyst: ‘Diminished’ Trump is hiding from shutdown mess ‘holed up in the White House’

Peters said that the necessary parties are “not communicating” with each other and need to stop “shouting at each other from the Senate floor (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/lindsey-graham-wants-anti-immigration-nut-stephen-miller-booted-from-negotiations-we-are-going-nowhere/).”

“Oddly, the president seems somewhat diminished throughout this entire process,” said Peters.

“He’s somebody that holds himself up as a master negotiator,

but he’s been largely invisible.

He hasn’t made a statement,

he hasn’t appeared in public.”

“He’s been holed up in the White House as all of this unfolds on Capitol Hill,” Peters said.

The New York Times said Sunday (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/us/politics/trump-shutdown.html) that Trump spent most of Saturday ignoring the crisis and

watching old videos of himself trashing then-President Barack Obama during the 2013 shutdown.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/opinion/shutdown-broken-congress-budget.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&mtrref=undefined&assetType=opinion

:lol How's the Trash dick taste now, all y'all Trash fellators? :lol

[boutons_deux]

The Shutdown Shows the Twisted Rules of a Broken Congress

This week’s government shutdown is a bipartisan failure, with bad faith all around, and both parties trying to blame the other for the consequences, in hopes of winning one for the team.

But it is also a systemic failure, in which an outdated budget process — the complex set of procedures that keeps the government open — has become an empty ritual, twisted in the service of narrow partisan gain.

The source of today’s dysfunctions goes back more than 40 years, to the

Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974.

That law was passed as a result of a perception within Congress — which under the Constitution holds the power of the purse — that the White House had too much influence over the budget.

The law overhauled congressional budget development procedures in a manner intended to shift the balance of power in federal budgeting away from the executive and toward the legislature — and created the modern budget process.

That process is kick-started by the drafting of an annual budget resolution that was initially intended to serve as a check on the president’s proposal.

Congress hasn’t completed the entire budget process (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/unpacked/2017/11/03/whats-wrong-with-the-congressional-budget-process/), with all the spending bills, on time in more than 20 years.

Many years, it has not passed any budget resolution at all (https://www.brookings.edu/research/considering-the-budget-resolution-in-the-senate-challenges-and-consequences-of-reform/).

This is perhaps the most basic responsibility of the legislative branch, yet for decades, Congress has repeatedly come up short.

That Congress can fail to pass a budget with so little consequence —

if anything, it boosted Republicans, by giving them two opportunities to try major partisan legislation —

shows what a cynical charade the process has become.

The stalemates that have come to define the budget process have helped set the stage for repeated shutdown showdowns.

It is a broken process that has enabled and empowered partisan bad faith by setting up a situation in which everything is riding on a few enormous bills.

So lawmakers try to hook other priorities — immigration, say, or health care — to “must pass” legislation in hopes of using the leverage to push them through.

The first step toward fixing the system is for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to decide that their priority is

to fulfill essential governing responsibilities :lol NEVER from the Repugs :lol

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/opinion/shutdown-broken-congress-budget.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&mtrref=undefined&assetType=opinion

Repugs hate and want to destroy govt in order to to enable/empower/enrich the oligarchy.

"Government IS the problem", so non-governance and/or MISgovernance is Repug orthodoxy.

America is fucked and unfuckable. Oligarchies have never, will never yield power and wealth willingly, peacefully.

[koriwhat]

ugh it's like boutons only knows how to drudgereport it up in here daily... article after article after article... and then sprinkled at the bottom of each post is his crybaby antics about the oligarchy. you sure you're not an overweight bull dyke fem?

[koriwhat]

Repugs hate and want to destroy govt in order to to enable/empower/enrich the oligarchy.

DACA lmao! what other shit illegal programs are there created by the left? yall fucks project more than a movie theater.

[boutons_deux]

White House’s Mick Mulvaney: I think the government shutdown is ‘kind of cool’


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/TVEyes-Media-Monitoring-Suite-Main-Menu-35-800x430.jpg


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/white-houses-mick-mulvaney-i-think-the-government-shutdown-is-kind-of-cool/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Trump Budget Chief Can’t Explain Why Republicans Blocked Military Pay During Shutdown

Donald Trump’s budget chief Mick Mulvaney had no real answer when asked why the White House and Republican Party are blocking service members’ pay and benefits during the GOP-engineered shutdown of the federal government

“Claire McCaskill … brought up a vote to pay them while the shutdown was going on,” Dickerson said, adding

“That vote — Mitch McConnell didn’t bring that up for vote.”

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-budget-chief-republicans-blocked-military-pay-shutdown/ (http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-budget-chief-republicans-blocked-military-pay-shutdown/)

[Chris]

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[boutons_deux]

Leadership! :lol

Trump is ‘itching’ to jump into shutdown debate even as aides struggle to keep him quiet

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/trump-is-itching-to-jump-into-shutdown-debate-even-as-aides-struggle-to-keep-him-quiet-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Pavlov]

Damn Trump sucks at negotiating.

[Chris]

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https://media.giphy.com/media/VJ2B0I6t2HEUE/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

955148141136891904

https://media.giphy.com/media/VJ2B0I6t2HEUE/giphy.gif:lol Republicans don't even want to pay the troops but they'll scramble to let them see the evil NFL this weekend.

[Chris]

:lol Republicans don't even want to pay the troops but they'll scramble to let them see the evil NFL this weekend.

10%

[Pavlov]

10%They'd vote to pay the troops. They keep bringing it up in the Senate.

Republicans don't want to. They keep killing it.

[koriwhat]

They'd vote to pay the troops. They keep bringing it up in the Senate.

Republicans don't want to. They keep killing it.

republicans don't want to pay the troops? but the left wants to house all of the worlds rejects. we could pay the troops and then some if we weren't the world's melting pot that the left wants us to be.

[Chris]

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https://media0.giphy.com/media/1291LcvXfxYBR6/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

republicans don't want to pay the troops? but the left wants to house all of the worlds rejects.:lol "all"

You lie right after saying you don't want to lie like that.

[koriwhat]

:lol "all"

You lie right after saying you don't want to lie like that.

you see lies in truth that you'd rather dismiss. that's the truth!

[Pavlov]

you see lies in truth that you'd rather dismiss. that's the truth!No, you lied.

You're a lying hypocrite.

[djohn2oo8]

Koriliar.

[koriwhat]

No, you lied.

You're a lying hypocrite.

how am i lying when you fucks are advocating for foreigners illegally here to be amnestied while pissing on our own people who struggle day to day? As well, yall want more retards from the ME to come over too. fucking comical.

[Pavlov]

how am i lying when you fucks are advocating for foreigners illegally here to be amnestied while pissing on our own people who struggle day to day? As well, yall want more retards from the ME to come over too. fucking comical.You said "all."

You're a lying hypocrite.

Don't ever complain about anyone else lying again ever.

[Pavlov]

Hey, Chris let me know i posted this in the wrong thread, so I'm posting it in the right thread:

Look, the negotiating cap is a nice touch but have at least a couple sheets of paper on the desk to make it appear as if you are working for muh troops.954865841266446336

[koriwhat]

You said "all."

You're a lying hypocrite.

Don't ever complain about anyone else lying again ever.

refute it or stfu.

[Chris]

Hey, Chris let me know i posted this in the wrong thread, so I'm posting it in the right thread:

Look, the negotiating cap is a nice touch but have at least a couple sheets of paper on the desk to make it appear as if you are working for muh troops.954865841266446336

Trump works his ass off. Deserves to play golf whenever he likes. He sleeps 4-6 hours a day. Happy?

[djohn2oo8]

refute it or stfu.
Didn't you arrive here on a banana boat? Shame you now piss on your own people.

[koriwhat]

btw pav, if yall don't want all then i assume yall still want retards though from around the world? thanks for clarifying that we should bring only the dem'ist of the dem. ha

[djohn2oo8]

Trump works his ass off. Deserves to play golf whenever he likes. He sleeps 4-6 hours a day. Happy?

Yeah Trump works his ass off so much that he's still a fatass :lol

[koriwhat]

Didn't you arrive here on a banana boat? Shame you now piss on your own people.

nah i was born here like generations before me in my family. you know, real americans!

[Pavlov]

refute it or stfu.What's to refute? They clearly don't want "to house all of the worlds rejects" because there is no proposed law or platform that suggests they do.

Consider yourself refuted, you lying hypocrite.

[koriwhat]

Yeah Trump works his ass off so much that he's still a fatass :lol

physical attributes is all you have to attack? how about the stock market, jobs, border patrol, taxes, etc? nothing of substance, just physical attacks? loser!

[Pavlov]

Trump works his ass off. Deserves to play golf whenever he likes. He sleeps 4-6 hours a day. Happy?His ass is enormous and will never be worked off and lol your defending racist grandpa's golfing.

[djohn2oo8]

you know, real americans!

You wouldn't know what that means.

[Chris]

nah i was born here like generations before me in my family. you know, real americans!

https://media.giphy.com/media/pu6PQqp3OA1xu/giphy.gif

[djohn2oo8]

physical attributes is all you have to attack? how about the stock market, jobs, border patrol, taxes, etc? nothing of substance, just physical attacks? loser!

Pence is one double cheesburger away from being President.

[koriwhat]

What's to refute? They clearly don't want "to house all of the worlds rejects" because there is no proposed law or platform that suggests they do.

Consider yourself refuted, you lying hypocrite.

you're right, there is no proposed law for part of the rejects coming over... daca. as for the other proposed law to keep rejects out, well, it gets shut down left and right due to sjw judges.

[boutons_deux]

Schumer and Bitch McC dealing, Trash and Miller excluded

[Pavlov]

you're right, there is no proposed law for part of the rejects coming over... daca. as for the other proposed law to keep rejects out, well, it gets shut down left and right due to sjw judges.Dude, you're a proven lying hypocrite.

[koriwhat]

His ass is enormous and will never be worked off and lol your defending racist grandpa's golfing.

racist? yalls talking points are so fucking played out. yall have shown your cards over and over again all the while wearing blue blockers. wtf?!


You wouldn't know what that means.

don't lump me in with shitty people like you who had to flee their shithole countries to come find a better life all the while waiving their shithole country's flag instead of the red, white, and blue.

[djohn2oo8]

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True patriot.

[Chris]

Pence is one double cheesburger away from being President.

Hillary didn't have the stamina :lol

https://i.redd.it/zr3zm5ytaykx.gif

[koriwhat]

Dude, you're a proven lying hypocrite.

proven by a bunch of pansy sissy boys like you, faggylumps, and the rest of the sissy boy femnazi crew? lmao

[Pavlov]

racist? yalls talking points are so fucking played out. yall have shown your cards over and over again all the while wearing blue blockers. wtf?!Central Park Five. Housing discrimination settlement. It's all I need tbh.

[koriwhat]

955128677905453058
True patriot.

so he donates his salary that we pay anyhow but you dismiss djt for doing the same? what a stupid bunch yall are.

[Pavlov]

proven by a bunch of pansy sissy boys like you, faggylumps, and the rest of the sissy boy femnazi crew? lmaoNow I proved you meltdown as well.

[djohn2oo8]

Hillary didn't have the stamina :lol

https://i.redd.it/zr3zm5ytaykx.gif

What work does Trump do? If he did any the Govr wouldn't be shut down :lol

[djohn2oo8]

so he donates his salary that we pay anyhow but you dismiss djt for doing the same? what a stupid bunch yall are.

What is Trump donating?

[koriwhat]

Central Park Five. Housing discrimination settlement. It's all I need tbh.

you're white right? and in this world it makes you no better than trump. have you not got the memo yet? you're a racist too!

[koriwhat]

Now I proved you meltdown as well.

meltdown, triggered, etc... i don't give a fuck about your stupid faggy words yall hold so dear to your fickle hearts. bunch of sissys.

[Chris]

What is Trump donating?

He donates his salary to Veterans.

[koriwhat]

What is Trump donating?

so it's not good enough that he doesn't accept a presidential salary? anything and everything to point and put down djt. it's downright hilarious.

[Pavlov]

you're white right? and in this world it makes you no better than trump. have you not got the memo yet? you're a racist too!I never had to settle a federal housing discrimination suit and I don't want the Central Park Five to still be killed after they have been completely cleared.

That makes me better than Trump RE: racism.

Pretty simple stuff.

[koriwhat]

Hillary didn't have the stamina :lol

https://i.redd.it/zr3zm5ytaykx.gif

i can't wait til she slips 6ft under dirt. fuck that **** HRC and her rapist husband too!

[koriwhat]

I never had to settle a federal housing discrimination suit and I don't want the Central Park Five to still be killed after they have been completely cleared.

That makes me better than Trump RE: racism.

Pretty simple stuff.

you're no better than the man on death row. that's the delusion you're under.

[djohn2oo8]

He donates his salary to Veterans.

And tried cutting VA benefits. Lordy!

[Blake]

Hey, Chris let me know i posted this in the wrong thread, so I'm posting it in the right thread:

Look, the negotiating cap is a nice touch but have at least a couple sheets of paper on the desk to make it appear as if you are working for muh troops.954865841266446336

Lol

[Pavlov]

you're no better than the man on death row. that's the delusion you're under.I'm sorry nonwhites don't like you. Maybe you're an asshole.

[djohn2oo8]

i can't wait til she slips 6ft under dirt. fuck that **** HRC and her rapist husband too!
Poor calf tats. The more mad he gets the longer those tats stretch out.

[Blake]

Hillary didn't have the stamina :lol

https://i.redd.it/zr3zm5ytaykx.gif

See, that's a ding

[koriwhat]

I'm sorry nonwhites don't like you. Maybe you're an asshole.

i've only ever fucked non-white women so some like me... not at the moment. lol

[Blake]

Trump works his ass off. Deserves to play golf whenever he likes. He sleeps 4-6 hours a day. Happy?

Lol I like how you slid the 6 in there.

[djohn2oo8]

i've only ever fucked non-white women so some like me... not at the moment. lol

Christ what a loser. Admitting people don't like you.

[Pavlov]

i've only ever fucked non-white women so some like me... not at the moment. lolWell, I don't have to say "maybe" anymore.

[koriwhat]

Poor calf tats. The more mad he gets the longer those tats stretch out.

the longer you try your hand at comedy the further you fall just like those hacks schumer, mencia, cook, ansari, miller, etc... fucking hacks!

[djohn2oo8]

Well, I don't have to say "maybe" anymore.

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

the longer you try your hand at comedy the further you fall just like those hacks schumer, mencia, cook, ansari, miller, etc... fucking hacks!
Why don't you man up and cut that shit you call hair, Repunzel. Maybe women would like you then.

[koriwhat]

Well, I don't have to say "maybe" anymore.

btw, does it speak to my oh-so-racist attitude to have mainly mexicans as friends? i mean my brother(best friend) lives in brownsville of which i actually love that little town. oh, i forgot, i am just trying to keep up appearances. and not liking white women sexually must just be the same too.

[koriwhat]

Why don't you man up and cut that shit you call hair, Repunzel. Maybe women would like you then.

if i had to lay odds on it, i bet i've fucked some hot women you've only dreamed of before. i'm no playboy though.

[koriwhat]

don't be so mad djohn... you're little asian dick is a cute little clit to the women.

[djohn2oo8]

if i had to lay odds on it, i bet i've fucked some hot women you've only dreamed of before. i'm no playboy though.

Yeah I'll just bet that you are indeed no playboy.

[djohn2oo8]

don't be so mad djohn... you're little asian dick is a cute little clit to the women.

Guess your pickup lines start with "Wanna see my calf tats"

[Chris]

Women love long hair :lol djohn you a hater breh :lol

[Pavlov]

btw, does it speak to my oh-so-racist attitude to have mainly mexicans as friends? i mean my brother(best friend) lives in brownsville of which i actually love that little town. oh, i forgot, i am just trying to keep up appearances. and not liking white women sexually must just be the same too.No one ever said a racist must be racist against every other race.

But I wasn't even talking about you.

If you want to support racist grandpa, you do that.

[Pavlov]

if i had to lay odds on it, i bet i've fucked some hot women you've only dreamed of before. i'm no playboy though.POLITICS!

[djohn2oo8]

Women love long hair :lol djohn

Not when it's dirty.

[koriwhat]

Guess your pickup lines start with "Wanna see my calf tats"

never needed a pickup line tbh. you mad bro? triggered? melting down? fucking bitch.


POLITICS!

he brought it up, go bitch at him for doing so. i'm just the messenger.

[koriwhat]

Not when it's dirty.

far from dirty. you have no clue man. just like most dipshits here you just follow the herd. hivemind got you by the balls.

[Pavlov]

he brought it up, go bitch at him for doing so. i'm just the messenger.You brought up your sex life.

[Blake]

Women love long hair :lol djohn you a hater breh :lol

Lol shielding

[djohn2oo8]

never needed a pickup line tbh. you mad bro? triggered? melting down? fucking bitch.



he brought it up, go bitch at him for doing so. i'm just the messenger.

Yeah. I'm sure "Hi I'm Perry" sweeps them all off their feet.

[koriwhat]

You brought up your sex life.

i feel like i'm bombarded by a bunch of sissy's daily here on ST. the same little crew of sissy's over and over again. fucking hell.

[djohn2oo8]

i feel like i'm bombarded by a bunch of sissy's daily here on ST. the same little crew of sissy's over and over again. fucking hell.

You're no playboy.

[Pavlov]

i feel like i'm bombarded by a bunch of sissy's daily here on ST. the same little crew of sissy's over and over again. fucking hell.You brought up your sex life.

WTF was that about?

[koriwhat]

Yeah. I'm sure "Hi I'm Perry" sweeps them all off their feet.

you're never going to get your little shit shtick "perry" bs off the ground man. well, not outside a handful of other shitty posters as yourself. def not with faggylumps because he loves to state my name here acting as if he knows me by doing so. what a pathetic fuck that dude is and yourself.

[djohn2oo8]

you're never going to get your little shit shtick "perry" bs off the ground man. well, not outside a handful of other shitty posters as yourself. def not with faggylumps because he loves to state my name here acting as if he knows me by doing so. what a pathetic fuck that dude is and yourself.

Calm down perry. You're just no playboy.

[Blake]

i feel like i'm bombarded by a bunch of sissy's daily here on ST. the same little crew of sissy's over and over again. fucking hell.

Nobody is forcing you to reply to every single zing. You're doing it to yourself, simpleton.

[koriwhat]

Nobody is forcing you to reply to every single zing. You're doing it to yourself, simpleton.

i want to. every thought of that one? it's entertaining to me just like being a sissy is entertaining to you.

[Blake]

i want to. every thought of that one? it's entertaining to me just like being a sissy is entertaining to you.

Oh so you enjoy getting bombarded?

Lol no. You cry at every turn.

[koriwhat]

Oh so you enjoy getting bombarded?

Lol no. You cry at every turn.

i find it comical and a bit entertaining but it def gets old from time to time because i feel like i am just rereading the same shit over and over and the screennames change from time to time.

[Blake]

i find it comical and a bit entertaining but it def gets old from time to time because i feel like i am just rereading the same shit over and over and the screennames change from time to time.

Well if a large number of people are telling you you're being stupid, you might want to step back and assess.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well if a large number of people are telling you you're being stupid, you might want to step back and assess.

He knows that he is not too bright. He's like a vulgar WC in that way.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Polls specifically with independents are still holding the GOP to blame by ~10 points.

[Th'Pusher]

He knows that he is not too bright. He's like a vulgar WC in that way.

I don’t know. I think WC actually thinks he’s intelligent. This calf tat guy, not so much. He’s angry as fuck, but I don’t think he suffers the same delusions of grandeur as WC.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/26904685_10102893715373378_439956233485459794_n.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=ddae67d196a34bfef1a27ada52ff7460&oe=5ADFD969

[Reck]

This "democrats are to blame" narrative is not really taking hold.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUJdRD4U8AE0BbT.jpg

:lol ducks

[Trill Clinton]

A looooot of soldiers and military personnel at JBSA Ft Sam are disappointed and angry with their president this morning.

[djohn2oo8]

A looooot of soldiers and military personnel at JBSA Ft Sam are disappointed and angry with their president this morning.

955434880892096512

[boutons_deux]

The oligarchy doesn't GIVE A SHIT about anything or anybody but the $Ts they paid themselves, looting America, via their Repug whores.

[boutons_deux]

The #SchumerShutdown Hashtag Is Getting A Big Boost From Russian Bots

The GOP slogan is now the top trending hashtag being promoted by Russian influence operators on Twitter.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/government-shutdown-russia-twitter-trump_us_5a654795e4b0dc592a0a06c8?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__012218&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__012218+CID_7c2cf608 f0debf689b446ce85c40ecee&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__012218

The USA gets PUNKED yet again.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Blake]

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Yeah but the pictures of him with people and a hat on tho

[boutons_deux]

955451287520325632

Schumer and McConnell have shut Trash, and his Goebbels Miller, out of the negotiations.

Trash is being led around by his tiny dick by Miller and other WH sociopaths.

[boutons_deux]

Djealmaker not UnChained

Trump is ‘itching’ to jump into shutdown debate even as aides struggle to keep him quiet

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/trump-is-itching-to-jump-into-shutdown-debate-even-as-aides-struggle-to-keep-him-quiet-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

955458859195338752

[djohn2oo8]

955409852347699201
:lmao

[Reck]

955409852347699201
:lmao

When you elect a borderline retard as president. :lol

[boutons_deux]

955409852347699201
:lmao

Trash has been out of his depth (in the baby pool) since 20 Jan 17.

[boutons_deux]

“As long as Stephen Miller is in charge of negotiating immigration, we are going nowhere. He’s been an outlier for years,”

Graham told reporters at the Capitol.

“I’ve talked with the president; his heart is right on this issue. He’s got a good understanding of what will sell. And every time we have a proposal, it is only yanked back by staff members.”

The reality, though, is arguably more complicated.
Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, said

Trump has hawkish immigration views on a gut level but

doesn’t necessarily understand all of the policy details and implications. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stephen-miller-immigration-agitator-and-white-house-survivor/2018/01/21/7a1f7778-fcae-11e7-b832-8c26844b74fb_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.46624c702ac5&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

iow, Trash is truly cognitively impaired, cognitively limited, y'all elected a stupid, ignorant greasebag

As Julius Winfield would say "Check Out The Little Brain on Don"

[Brazil]

:lol 'Murica never cease to amaze me... how a shutdown is possible when a party has majority everywhere ? I need some cliff notes tbh

[djohn2oo8]

955484864677072896

[Reck]

955484864677072896

Schumer: We will vote to re-open the Government.

Republicans get bailed out again. :lol

[baseline bum]

Schumer: We will vote to re-open the Government.

Republicans get bailed out again. :lol

You're acting like the Democrats have much leverage. The GOP controls everything in Washington.

[djohn2oo8]

955492583224037376

[baseline bum]

955492583224037376

Oh yeah McConnell is going to be trustworthy on that :lmao

[boutons_deux]

"consideration of legislation dealing with DACA"

:lol

dickless, feckless, effete Dems FOLD AGAIN :lol

Bitch McConnell lied to Collins to get her vote for tax cut, and he's LYING to Schumer now.

"... consideration of legislation ..." ! :lol

[Reck]

You're acting like the Democrats have much leverage. The GOP controls everything in Washington.

So they would have blown up the filibuster again?

That's a double whammy for them. People are already pissed off at them.

[boutons_deux]

McConnell offers same deal he made—and broke—in December for Trump shutdown vote (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/22/1734926/-McConnell-offers-same-deal-he-made-and-broke-in-December-for-Trump-shutdown-vote)

a bipartisan group of 20 senators is in talks to end the shutdown by

letting Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell play them for fools—

for the second time on the same issue in at least one case.

The idea is that they would vote to fund the government through February 8 in exchange

for McConnell’s promise (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/370022-senate-group-signals-they-are-near-a-deal-on-shutdown) of a vote on immigration.

As a reminder, Flake voted for the Republican tax bill back in December based on this promise:


Bipartisan #DACA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DACA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) bill will be on the Senate floor in January.
— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) December 20, 2017 (https://twitter.com/JeffFlake/status/943364713899061250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

And McConnell publicly promised a vote in January (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/politics/flake-daca-senate-vote/index.html).

Now, the group of oh-so-savvy bipartisan senators—and the public—is

supposed to believe that it’ll happen in February.

Pinkie promise! Except, uh: (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/370022-senate-group-signals-they-are-near-a-deal-on-shutdown)


Sen. John Cornyn (http://thehill.com/people/john-cornyn) (R-Texas), the No. 2 Senate Republican, predicted (https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/955210643019268096) the government would still be closed on Monday and said

it would be "ridiculous" to agree to promise an immigration vote.

So Republicans bargained 800,000 Dreamers’ future for Jeff Flake’s tax vote.

And they got his tax vote, didn’t hold a vote on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, and

turned to setting health care for nine million children against Dreamers’ futures,

forcing a government shutdown.

But definitely Democrats and the couple bipartisan Republicans should trade their vote for a McConnell promise and the used toilet paper it’s presumably printed on.



https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1/22/1734926/-McConnell-offers-same-deal-he-made-and-broke-in-December-for-Trump-shutdown-vote?detail=emaildkre

[djohn2oo8]

6 Year CHIP extension in the bill.

[baseline bum]

6 Year CHIP extension in the bill.

Which is why I would have voted for it the first time.

[boutons_deux]

CHIP has always had bi-partisan, nearly unanimous support, until the Reign of Trash.

[Reck]

You're acting like the Democrats have much leverage. The GOP controls everything in Washington.

Also, all thsi did was kicked the can a few weeks. We will be back in the same situation when this extension expires, no?

[djohn2oo8]

Also, all thsi did was kicked the can a few weeks. We will be back in the same situation when this extension expires, no?

More pressure on Mcconnell.

[Blake]

:lol 'Murica never cease to amaze me... how a shutdown is possible when a party has majority everywhere ? I need some cliff notes tbh

Lol that's what Bernie zinged them on too

[baseline bum]

Also, all thsi did was kicked the can a few weeks. We will be back in the same situation when this extension expires, no?

Yeah it's going to shut down again but the Democrats will be in a better position to spin this as Trump and McConnell's fault.

[boutons_deux]

Pelosi is agitating the House Dems to vote against Schumer's dickless deal with chinless Bitch McC

[djohn2oo8]

Pelosi is agitating the House Dems to vote against Schumer's dickless deal with chinless Bitch McC

It actually puts more pressure on Mcconnell and Trump. Plus CHIP is no longer a bargaining chip.

[djohn2oo8]

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[CosmicCowboy]

Basically, the democrats accepted on Monday what they turned down Friday. Bottom line is if they want DACA they have to address other immigration reforms too or yeah, we will be right back here in three weeks.

[baseline bum]

Basically, the democrats accepted on Monday what they turned down Friday. Bottom line is if they want DACA they have to address other immigration reforms too or yeah, we will be right back here in three weeks.

I think it's going to end up DACA for the wall.

[spurraider21]

I think it's going to end up DACA for the wall.
it makes sense symbolically tbh... i agree with the principle that amnesty type stuff only makes sense if you can curtail future entries.

but...

a) i have doubts that a 20 billion dollar wall is going to fix the problem it intends to fix (also its quite funny to add a big spending project right after slashing your future tax revenue)
b) i have bigger doubts that democrats would vote for it because of muh racism. they will see a vote for the wall as validating trump's rapist comments

[spurraider21]

it will be interesting to see how the white house tries to spin the wall as being funded by mexico through "other means"

[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[SpursforSix]

it will be interesting to see how the white house tries to spin the wall as being funded by mexico through "other means"

I'm sure it'll get spun to something like..."oh I didn't say they'd directly pay for it".

Maybe they'll say that the wall means that Mexico will now have to bear the cost of whatever it takes to deal with the would-be refugees from all the Central and South American countries.
Or maybe Trump will impose some tariffs on Mexican shit.

[Chris]

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[Blake]

Or maybe Trump will impose some tariffs on Mexican shit.

To which they'll raise the prices of goods manufactured there to offset. ....which in turn we'll end up indirectly paying for the wall we directly paid for in the first place

[spurraider21]

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:lol "republicans caved on everything relevant"
:lol "i make the best deals"

[SpursforSix]

To which they'll raise the prices of goods manufactured there to offset. ....which in turn we'll end up indirectly paying for the wall we directly paid for in the first place

eh...it's not for me to figure it all out.

[DarrinS]

:lol 'Murica never cease to amaze me... how a shutdown is possible when a party has majority everywhere ? I need some cliff notes tbh

Because math

51 < 60

[baseline bum]

it makes sense symbolically tbh... i agree with the principle that amnesty type stuff only makes sense if you can curtail future entries.

but...

a) i have doubts that a 20 billion dollar wall is going to fix the problem it intends to fix (also its quite funny to add a big spending project right after slashing your future tax revenue)
b) i have bigger doubts that democrats would vote for it because of muh racism. they will see a vote for the wall as validating trump's rapist comments

Of course the wall isn't going to fix anything. Trump doesn't want the shit fixed, he wants something to parade out to the low information voters forming his base. Democrats will be forced to vote for it so they can claim victory on DACA.

[baseline bum]

Because math

51 < 60

They blew their budget reconciliation bill on the Trump tax cuts & hikes.

[Chris]

10%

[Chris]

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[Spurminator]

Of course the wall isn't going to fix anything. Trump doesn't want the shit fixed, he wants something to parade out to the low information voters forming his base. Democrats will be forced to vote for it so they can claim victory on DACA.

If the trade really is DACA for Wall, give him his stupid wall. It doesn't win him any votes, it won't product any results, and it's something cool for us to vandalize for a few years until we demolish it.

[baseline bum]

If the trade really is DACA for Wall, give him his stupid wall. It doesn't win him any votes, it won't product any results, and it's something cool for us to vandalize for a few years until we demolish it.

I agree. I hate the wall, but at least it's going to be a lot of Trump voters with their homes and property on the wrong side of that fucking thing. :lol

[koriwhat]

Well if a large number of people are telling you you're being stupid, you might want to step back and assess.

a large number? is this real life or just more fake news? lmao a large number! more like a few dipshits who think too highly of themselves.

[Chris]

I agree. I hate the wall, but at least it's going to be a lot of Trump voters with their homes and property on the wrong side of that fucking thing. :lol

You must hate your front door too. And locks. Locks are bad.

[spurraider21]

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Republicans caved on everything!

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Democrats caved!

[Spurminator]

Some Democrat President is going to have a great "Tear Down This Wall" moment thanks to Daffy Donald's retarded priorities.

[baseline bum]

You must hate your front door too. And locks. Locks are bad.

It's a waste of money. I'd be all for taking the cost of the wall and instead using it to prosecute those who hire illegals so we could attack illegal immigration not just at the border but in the nation as a whole, but Trump and the GOP don't want that since it would actually work.

[Spurminator]

You must hate your front door too. And locks. Locks are bad.

My door fills the entire frame and locks. If I didn't have a door, I certainly wouldn't spend $20 billion to stand a deck of cards in front of the open doorway.

[spurraider21]

i need professor Chris to explain to me how

a) republicans caved on everything relevant

AND

b) The Dems caved and lost the shutdown fight

[Blake]

i need professor Chris to explain to me how

a) republicans caved on everything relevant

AND

b) The Dems caved and lost the shutdown fight

Give him time to find another tweet to throw out

[boutons_deux]

Repug white supremacist Gestapo to start ETHNIC CLEANSING of browns on 5 March

White House says it might start deporting DREAMers on March 5https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-deport-dreamers-1c8609796913/

12K+ DACA people to lose DACA protection by then.

[Chris]

i need professor Chris to explain to me how

a) republicans caved on everything relevant

AND

b) The Dems caved and lost the shutdown fight

Not my fault you conflate everything and get it confused. This isn't quantum physics. Do you really need me to walk you through the timeline/chain of events, or can you not discern for yourself? If it's the former, I wouldn't hold your breath.

[Chris]

Jay Chay

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[CosmicCowboy]

Repug white supremacist Gestapo to start ETHNIC CLEANSING of browns on 5 March

White House says it might start deporting DREAMers on March 5https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-deport-dreamers-1c8609796913/

12K+ DACA people to lose DACA protection by then.




Thats a damn good reason for democrats to get serious about negotiating immigration reform coupled with DACA.

[spurraider21]

Not my fault you conflate everything and get it confused. This isn't quantum physics. Do you really need me to walk you through the timeline/chain of events, or can you not discern for yourself? If it's the former, I wouldn't hold your breath.
Yes. Explain to me how the republicans "caved on everything" and how the dems also "caved"

[Brazil]

Because math

51 < 60

probably more because of a broken process

:lol govt shutdown.. only in US

[boutons_deux]

This is what happens when you trust Mitch McConnell

McConnell says a lot of things. Then he does whatever he wants.

So the Senate Democrats agreed to vote for a continuing resolution on Monday to fund the government through February 8th, and possibly another continuing resolution on February 8, for the commitment to consider an unidentified immigration bill.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) has already cast doubt (https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-republican-shoots-down-tentative-shutdown-deal) on the idea of considering an immigration bill before February 8.

McConnell promised a vote on Collins-Nelson, a bill to lower Obamacare premiums, before the end of 2017

Later in December, Collins let McConnell slide on that promise (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/365822-collins-lets-mcconnell-slide-on-promise-to-shore-up-insurance-markets-in-2017), and she vowed to introduce legislation in 2018, with no specific promise from the majority leader to champion it.

McConnell promised a vote on Alexander-Murray, a bill to stabilize Obamacare markets, before the end of 2017

McConnell also failed to keep this promise (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/mcconnells-making-promises-that-he-needs-democrats-to-keep.html), as the legislation did not get added to the tax bill and was not passed separately in 2017.

McConnell promised to bring a DACA bill to the Senate floor in January

Yet McConnell did not promise to bring the bipartisan DACA bill to the Senate floor — he said it was his intention to begin consideration of a DACA bill long as the government does not shut down on February 8, the date that the new continuing resolution expires.

McConnell promised the Republican tax plan would not raise taxes on anyone in the middle class

“I misspoke on that,” :lol McConnell told the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/politics/senate-tax-bill.html?_r=0). “You can’t guarantee that absolutely no one sees a tax increase,

McConnell promised to honor Senate tradition on judicial nominees

When Barack Obama became president, McConnell sent a letter to him, which was shared (https://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/comment-of-senator-patrick-leahy-d-vt-on-senator-mcconnells-remarks-concerning-the-blue-slip-tradition) with Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), then chair of the Senate Judicary Committee. Leahy said the letter stated

“that the Republican Conference expected the blue slip policy to be observed, ‘even-handedly and regardless of party affiliation.'”

in 2017, the first year of President Trump’s first term, McConnell did away with the blue slip rule (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/11/mitch-mcconnell-judicial-battles-243669). He told (http://www.weeklystandard.com/mitch-mcconnell-goes-to-the-mattresses-for-trumps-judicial-nominees/article/2010022) the Weekly Standard that the GOP would now treat blue slips “as simply notification of how you’re going to vote, not as an opportunity to blackball.”

in 2017, the first year of President Trump’s first term, McConnell did away with the blue slip rule (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/11/mitch-mcconnell-judicial-battles-243669). He told (http://www.weeklystandard.com/mitch-mcconnell-goes-to-the-mattresses-for-trumps-judicial-nominees/article/2010022) the Weekly Standard that the GOP would now treat blue slips “as simply notification of how you’re going to vote, not as an opportunity to blackball.”

The White House cast doubt on the premise of McConnell’s promise. Even if the compromise legislation passed the Senate, and somehow also passed the House,

a White House spokesperson said Trump would not sign it.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) flatly dismissed (https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-must-decide-if-they-trust-mcconnell-before-ending-shutdown) the idea that McConnell can be trusted on issues like this.

https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-broken-pledges-095e632eeafe/

Trash, McConnell, ALL Repugs, are slimebags whose "words", "promises" are empty air.

Fuck typically-spineless Dem Schumer. McConnell, Trash, Ryan gonna fuck kill DACA.

The ethnic cleansing of browns is and will be UnPresidnted

[Reck]

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Boots rejoice.

[djohn2oo8]

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Boots rejoice.

lol Trump

[TSA]

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Boots rejoice.

http://www.p2016.org/photos16/womens/womens012117b295.jpg

cute earmuffs

[RandomGuy]

i need professor Chris to explain to me how

a) republicans caved on everything relevant

AND

b) The Dems caved and lost the shutdown fight

Democrats got what they wanted. CHIP re-authorized for 6 years, removing it as a hostage, and another crack at DACA.

GOP faces another vote on this in 3 weeks, with less bargaining power.

Be interesting to see what happens.

[rmt]

Democrats got what they wanted. CHIP re-authorized for 6 years, removing it as a hostage, and another crack at DACA.

GOP faces another vote on this in 3 weeks, with less bargaining power.

Be interesting to see what happens.

Please explain how the GOP has less bargaining power.

[RandomGuy]

Please explain how the GOP has less bargaining power.

They don't have re-funding CHIP to negotiate with. That is now off the table.

[koriwhat]

http://www.p2016.org/photos16/womens/womens012117b295.jpg

cute earmuffs

dudes like that are so fucking pathetic. what has this world come to? and those women are making a case to respect them anymore than they are now. stay classy you fucking loons.

[rmt]

They don't have re-funding CHIP to negotiate with. That is now off the table.

So what bargaining power do the Dems have? Will they shut the government down again? Be my guest.

[rmt]

They don't have re-funding CHIP to negotiate with. That is now off the table.

And what do you think the Dems would have done if CHIP was not in the last deal - continue with the shutdown?

[Reck]

dudes like that are so fucking pathetic. what has this world come to? and those women are making a case to respect them anymore than they are now. stay classy you fucking loons.

He's the type of dude that is fucking your wife while you work to buy her a purse.