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AaronY
01-18-2018, 08:39 PM
Nearly nine in 10 Americans favor allowing young immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally as children to remain in the U.S. – a policy known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. This is a view that spans partisan lines.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-support-daca-but-oppose-border-wall-cbs-news-poll/

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 08:42 PM
i dont hate the wall. i just think its really stupid. i dont think it will "fix" illegal immigration, i just think its going to be a big ugly symbol for an ugly ideology.

also lol mexico will pay for it "in some way" :lmao

if republicans really want to dump 15 billion dollars into a fucking wall (plus maintenance) , they'll have to live that down

Reck
01-18-2018, 08:43 PM
The case against them is hard to keep up.

While you and me could chill and not give a fuck about having to work or in many cases not even have a high school diploma, these DACA people have to meet crazy criterias to stay. Work, have at least a high school diploma and having to report to a government official like some kind of criminal who's out on parole.

koriwhat
01-18-2018, 08:45 PM
yeah so fucking popular. lmao you utopian buttfucks.

Reck
01-18-2018, 08:49 PM
yeah so fucking popular. lmao you utopian buttfucks.

Still not melting down.

koriwhat
01-18-2018, 08:52 PM
Still not melting down.

how am i "melting down"? because i think you're a loser with a losers mentality? let the flood gates open and fuck our own people, right? stupid fucks like you are why this country is starting to be an unlawful country. you're not going to be pleased with your little utopia if it ever becomes reality. it's fine to day dream reck but you're just delusional.

hater
01-18-2018, 08:58 PM
:lol koriwat is a welcome and refreshing addition to our political forum

boutons_deux
01-18-2018, 08:59 PM
I bet Senate Dems cave once again and abandon DACA people

dabom
01-18-2018, 08:59 PM
I bet Senate Dems cave once again and abandon DACA people

Can't blame Dems though. That hurts the Dems. Blame the Repugs for making this shithole.

hater
01-18-2018, 09:02 PM
I doubt DACA is abandoned. Even Trump cant make that happen tbh :lol

But the wall will happen :lmao

Hope they make it big as shit so at least we can go take selfies and shit :lol

boutons_deux
01-18-2018, 09:04 PM
Can't blame Dems though. That hurts the Dems. Blame the Repugs for making this shithole.

If shumer had balls ,he'd shut it down to force DACA solution

Reck
01-18-2018, 09:06 PM
Can't blame Dems though. That hurts the Dems. Blame the Repugs for making this shithole.

This is the only time dems are in play. They won't cave.

If they just take the hit it will hurt them in the midterm and will exposed them as do nothing pussies.

If the Govt shuts down surely both parties will be blamed but the republicans, holding the presidency, the senate and house will bare the brunt of it.

It makes no sense for democrats to give in when they actually have some cards to play. DACA is very popular to begin with.

Reck
01-18-2018, 09:10 PM
I doubt DACA is abandoned. Even Trump cant make that happen tbh :lol

But the wall will happen :lmao

Hope they make it big as shit so at least we can go take selfies and shit :lol

https://i.imgur.com/wMj0Ssj.jpg

This looks retarded. :lol

hater
01-18-2018, 09:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wMj0Ssj.jpg

This looks retarded. :lol

Omg that looks horrid

Fucking american designers jesus

Get a french guy to design it imo.

spurraider21
01-18-2018, 09:24 PM
Omg that looks horrid

Fucking american designers jesus

Get a french guy to design it imo.
same thing with some white flags on top?

Chucho
01-18-2018, 09:30 PM
same thing with some white flags on top?

:lol

"Cheese-eating surrender monkeys"

hater
01-18-2018, 09:32 PM
same thing with some white flags on top?

A wall of baguettes would look better than that american designed shit tbh

pgardn
01-18-2018, 09:33 PM
Omg that looks horrid

Fucking american designers jesus

Get a french guy to design it imo.

its a Fkn wall...
Its it supposed to be inviting?
You want that wall, you got that wall...

koriwhat
01-18-2018, 09:52 PM
Can't blame Dems though. That hurts the Dems. Blame the Repugs for making this shithole.

DACA is the shithole and that shithole was created by you "liberals". why do our own citizen's dreams come last in line to illegals? yalls utopia fucking sucks.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2018, 09:58 PM
how am i "melting down"? because i think you're a loser with a losers mentality? let the flood gates open and fuck our own people, right? stupid fucks like you are why this country is starting to be an unlawful country. you're not going to be pleased with your little utopia if it ever becomes reality. it's fine to day dream reck but you're just delusional.

:lol meltdown.

And how? It's called profanity ridden, run on, ranting paragraphs like this one.

koriwhat
01-18-2018, 10:02 PM
oh god mr. knowitall faggylumpkins to the rescue. is there anyone else here who is so pompous and does nothing but suck their own dick like faggylumpkins does? fuck this queer!

btw faggylumpkins, who cares that i cuss, use run-on sentences, and rant? oh no... you're such a sissy.

Blake
01-18-2018, 10:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wMj0Ssj.jpg

This looks retarded. :lol

Yeah again, how many feet underground does it go

koriwhat
01-18-2018, 10:04 PM
Yeah again, how many feet underground does it go

hopefully far enough to stop obamas gun running stooges.

DMC
01-19-2018, 01:38 AM
The case against them is hard to keep up.

While you and me could chill and not give a fuck about having to work or in many cases not even have a high school diploma, these DACA people have to meet crazy criterias to stay. Work, have at least a high school diploma and having to report to a government official like some kind of criminal who's out on parole.
Walk over into their country with a sob story. see how long that lasts.

DMC
01-19-2018, 01:40 AM
same thing with some white flags on top?

And a garage door opener that works from both sides.

DMC
01-19-2018, 01:41 AM
Yeah again, how many feet underground does it go

How many feet underground does your front door go? Do you close it?

FuzzyLumpkins
01-19-2018, 06:02 AM
oh god mr. knowitall faggylumpkins to the rescue. is there anyone else here who is so pompous and does nothing but suck their own dick like faggylumpkins does? fuck this queer!

btw faggylumpkins, who cares that i cuss, use run-on sentences, and rant? oh no... you're such a sissy.

:lol more meltdown

baseline bum
01-19-2018, 08:01 AM
I don't think it's worth a government shutdown, but with polls like that how could the Democrats not try to force the GOP's hand on DACA?

Blake
01-19-2018, 08:02 AM
How many feet underground does your front door go? Do you close it?

Wut

RandomGuy
01-19-2018, 10:46 AM
DACA is the shithole and that shithole was created by you "liberals". why do our own citizen's dreams come last in line to illegals? yalls utopia fucking sucks.

Helping people here, and allowing others into the country are not mutually exclusive. It isn't either/or. Your calf tats are a good example. You can have tats on both calves, not just one. :D Too good an analogy to pass up.

Blake
01-19-2018, 11:49 AM
DACA is the shithole and that shithole was created by you "liberals". why do our own citizen's dreams come last in line to illegals? yalls utopia fucking sucks.

You "staunch conservatives" are such elitists

Mark Celibate
01-19-2018, 12:25 PM
90% of Americans want amnesty by the same people who brought you the “Hillary 51 trump 38” polls. CACA is extremely unpopular no matter what they try to shill. USA Today ran an article yesterday saying the real number of dreamers is 3.6 million. That’s not including the children of those 3.6 million who are legal citizens. Illegal immigration has brought in millions and millions of people and upset our demographics. And every time the numbers get bigger, more people come, nothing is done and then we need a bigger amnesty before you know it. Might as well just have an unlimited immigration policy, as long as you’ve never killed anyone or belong to a terrorist organization just come on in. We could be the most populated country on earth bigger than China. Either declare us not a country but rather a giant Walmart where people come to work and spend or enforce the law. Wasting money on a freak show fake enforcement is stupid.

DMC
01-19-2018, 01:02 PM
Wut

Your narrative is that illegals will simply tunnel. Ok, but they won't walk freely across and tunnels can be controlled more easily than thousands of miles of open range. Criminals can simply break your window but you still lock your door because a barrier is better than no barrier.

I don't think the wall will produce the intended outcome. If anything it will create a worse situation along the border where class dichotomy is falsely sustained by a divider. The people coming across, by and large, aren't bad people but there needs to be a legit way to document these folks. If I was born in Mexico I'd be walking to the US as well, so I don't blame them. The Mexican government is shitty, only US criminals sneak over to Mexico but legit people in desperation sneak into to the US. We just need to create a system where we can work with Mexico so they don't need to come here. I don't see that happening. Maybe we should conquer Mexico and call it Amazonia, let Jeff Bezos preside.

The wall just needs to have wind turbines all down it. That would mean it eventually pays for itself, creates jobs and makes a hell of a noise.

RandomGuy
01-19-2018, 01:22 PM
Your narrative is that illegals will simply tunnel. Ok, but they won't walk freely across and tunnels can be controlled more easily than thousands of miles of open range. Criminals can simply break your window but you still lock your door because a barrier is better than no barrier.

I don't think the wall will produce the intended outcome. If anything it will create a worse situation along the border where class dichotomy is falsely sustained by a divider. The people coming across, by and large, aren't bad people but there needs to be a legit way to document these folks. If I was born in Mexico I'd be walking to the US as well, so I don't blame them. The Mexican government is shitty, only US criminals sneak over to Mexico but legit people in desperation sneak into to the US. We just need to create a system where we can work with Mexico so they don't need to come here. I don't see that happening. Maybe we should conquer Mexico and call it Amazonia, let Jeff Bezos preside.

The wall just needs to have wind turbines all down it. That would mean it eventually pays for itself, creates jobs and makes a hell of a noise.

Why run the risk. Easier and safer to simply overstay a visa. Many, if not most undocumented immigrants go this route. Walls won't stop that, nor will a line of border agents.

http://www.trutv.com/shows/adam-ruins-everything/videos/why-a-wall-wont-stop-immigration.html

boutons_deux
01-19-2018, 01:26 PM
The White House Is Ludicrously Blaming Obama For Trump’s Government Shutdown

OMB Director Mick Mulvaney claimed that Obama weaponized government shutdowns, which was an indirect way of blaming Obama for Trump’s refusal to cut a deal on DACA, which will shut down down the government.

Mulvaney said,

“We want to make folks understand that it will look very different than it did under the previous administration.

One thing I’ve learned since I’ve been in this office is that there is no other way to describe it, but

the Obama administration weaponized the shutdown in 2013. :lol

What they didn’t tell you was that they did not encourage agencies to use carry forward funds, carry forward funds, funds they were sitting on, nor did they encourage agencies to use transfer authority, that they could have made the shutdown in 2013 much less impactful, but

they chose to make it worse, the only conclusion I can draw is they did for political purposes.”

The last government shutdown wasn’t caused by Obama.

That government shutdown was caused by Republicans in the House and Senate refusing to fund the government unless Obamacare was repealed.

http://www.politicususa.com/2018/01/19/white-house-ludicrously-blaming-obama-trumps-government-shutdown.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

btw, Mulvaney has taken $600K from payday loan sharks, now ...

Mulvaney requests zero funding for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cfpb-mulvaney-funding-20180118-story.html

Blake
01-19-2018, 01:28 PM
Your narrative is that illegals will simply tunnel. Ok, but they won't walk freely across and tunnels can be controlled more easily than thousands of miles of open range. Criminals can simply break your window but you still lock your door because a barrier is better than no barrier.

It doesn't cost billions to lock my door.

I'm not an engineer but I can't see it taking an extensive tunneling effort to get under 6 feet deep of wall

RandomGuy
01-19-2018, 03:05 PM
90% of Americans want amnesty by the same people who brought you the “Hillary 51 trump 38” polls.

"polls were wrong once, so they are wrong now, because I don't like what the polls show".

:rolleyes

Immigration is pretty much always good for the receiving country in the long run. People are assets, albeit mobile ones.

SpursforSix
01-19-2018, 03:23 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wMj0Ssj.jpg



Holy fuck. That's not going to work. Do they know how long the border is???

koriwhat
01-19-2018, 04:56 PM
:lol more meltdown

i think i averaged 5-6 sentences, run on and all... i thought your meltdownmeter was set at 11-12 sentences? fake news?



Helping people here, and allowing others into the country are not mutually exclusive. It isn't either/or.

helping people... lmao! let their country help them. we have plenty here who need help and aren't illegal.


You "staunch conservatives" are such elitists

you far lefty's are so delusional and fucked in the head. it truly is a mental disease.

Mark Celibate
01-19-2018, 05:21 PM
"polls were wrong once, so they are wrong now, because I don't like what the polls show".

:rolleyes

Immigration is pretty much always good for the receiving country in the long run. People are assets, albeit mobile ones.

well that’s one persons dumb opinion. Shocking to see that a far leftist is pro immigration.

Chris
01-19-2018, 05:30 PM
Wut

You're so dense :lol

koriwhat
01-19-2018, 05:30 PM
well that’s one persons dumb opinion. Shocking to see that a far leftist is pro immigration.

can't argue with "people are assets". i mean, isn't that the left's claim to fame when it comes to the voting polls?

koriwhat
01-19-2018, 05:31 PM
You're so dense :lol

his couch used to be too until he wore those cushions out.

Chris
01-19-2018, 05:31 PM
Holy fuck. That's not going to work. Do they know how long the border is???

Built with American steel paid for by Mexicans. :tu

Blake
01-19-2018, 05:38 PM
Built with American steel paid for by Mexicans. :tu

You're so dense :lol :lol

rmt
01-19-2018, 05:49 PM
"polls were wrong once, so they are wrong now, because I don't like what the polls show".

:rolleyes

Immigration is pretty much always good for the receiving country in the long run. People are assets, albeit mobile ones.

Nope, many are DRAINS.

Figure 1. Immigrant-headed households had substantially higher welfare use rates than native households for most types of programs in 2012.

Any Welfare: Native 30% Immigrants 51%
Medicaid: Native 23% Immigrants 42%
Food: Native 22% Immigrants 40%
Cash Welfare: Native 10% Immigrants 12%
Housing: Native 6% Immigrants 6%

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

DMC
01-19-2018, 05:51 PM
Why run the risk. Easier and safer to simply overstay a visa. Many, if not most undocumented immigrants go this route. Walls won't stop that, nor will a line of border agents.

http://www.trutv.com/shows/adam-ruins-everything/videos/why-a-wall-wont-stop-immigration.html

There's documentation that visas exist. We just have to track that down. You cannot track down documentation on people who snuck in.

Chris
01-19-2018, 06:10 PM
"polls were wrong once, so they are wrong now, because I don't like what the polls show".

:rolleyes

Immigration is pretty much always good for the receiving country in the long run. People are assets, albeit mobile ones.


Nope, many are DRAINS.

Figure 1. Immigrant-headed households had substantially higher welfare use rates than native households for most types of programs in 2012.

Any Welfare: Native 30% Immigrants 51%
Medicaid: Native 23% Immigrants 42%
Food: Native 22% Immigrants 40%
Cash Welfare: Native 10% Immigrants 12%
Housing: Native 6% Immigrants 6%

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

Concerning illegal immigrants it's "always good" for the business owner who can pay them under the table. Truly an "asset." Then you have the argument that no one else wants to do those jobs. I don't trust the numbers behind polls, but the stats behind immigrants being a net drain on the economy as a whole is not really up for debate imo.

Mark Celibate
01-19-2018, 06:54 PM
Nope, many are DRAINS.

Figure 1. Immigrant-headed households had substantially higher welfare use rates than native households for most types of programs in 2012.

Any Welfare: Native 30% Immigrants 51%
Medicaid: Native 23% Immigrants 42%
Food: Native 22% Immigrants 40%
Cash Welfare: Native 10% Immigrants 12%
Housing: Native 6% Immigrants 6%

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

im sure he will come back with some leftist linked study that shows the opposite but yeah you’re right. How any immigrant is illegible for any form of welfare at all is baffling to me. If you’re going to let people in, common sense would dictate that they should be able to immediately contribute without any assistance.

rmt
01-19-2018, 07:26 PM
im sure he will come back with some leftist linked study that shows the opposite but yeah you’re right. How any immigrant is illegible for any form of welfare at all is baffling to me. If you’re going to let people in, common sense would dictate that they should be able to immediately contribute without any assistance.

He's welcome to post any study he can find that shows that immigrants use welfare at a lower rate than natives - not that they should be using ANY welfare at all - they should be CONTRIBUTING - not being a DRAIN. So far, nothing - but he's keeps posting that they are "assets" and "always good for the receiving country."

Figure 6. Welfare use is high both for new arrivals and well-established immigrants

Any Welfare

Native 30%

Immigrants
< 5 years in the US - about 50%
5 to 10 years - about 51%
11 to 15 years - about 54%
16 to 21 years - about 56%
> 21 years - about 47%

Sorry, it's a bar chart so I'm estimating.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

Spurtacular
01-19-2018, 11:00 PM
:lmao "insanely popular"

AaronY
01-20-2018, 12:48 AM
polls are left wing. FAKE NEWS. Didn't read your while post but probably something about Jews too etc.


Fox News Poll: 83 percent support pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/28/fox-news-poll-83-percent-support-pathway-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants.html?

Yes, Fox News joining in left wing conspiracies now.

"Large majorities of voters favor granting work permits or citizenship to illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, according to the latest Fox News poll."

Wild Cobra
01-20-2018, 02:29 AM
Fox News Poll: 83 percent support pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/28/fox-news-poll-83-percent-support-pathway-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants.html?

Yes, Fox News joining in left wing conspiracies now.

"Large majorities of voters favor granting work permits or citizenship to illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, according to the latest Fox News poll."

It's the whole of what the DACA stands for that is dangerous to the US. Besides, any form of amnesty should never be talked about when illegal immigration isn't under control.

If it was announced that in five years, we would grant amnesty to all who were here, just how much of a sudden influx of illegal immigrants do you think there would be to get in before the deadline?

Spurtacular
01-20-2018, 03:49 PM
:lol at this fake-poll-based thread, tool.

Chris
01-20-2018, 03:51 PM
https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26991604_1445762215550604_5186151467844041316_n.jp g?oh=0f8f882b87ba3102f557d38942fcb4ec&oe=5AE314B9

Axl Rose
01-20-2018, 07:43 PM
Fox News Poll: 83 percent support pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/28/fox-news-poll-83-percent-support-pathway-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants.html?

Yes, Fox News joining in left wing conspiracies now.

"Large majorities of voters favor granting work permits or citizenship to illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, according to the latest Fox News poll."

Its funny that to you people Fox News is far right. To me it’s center left.

spurraider21
01-20-2018, 08:49 PM
Its funny that to you people Fox News is far right. To me it’s center left.
that's because you're stupid

Axl Rose
01-21-2018, 12:22 AM
that's because you're stupid
No it’s because you live in your little insulated bubble and anyone not completely bending over taking it up the butt is far right in your view. Go ahead and explain how fox is far right on anything other than tax rates. They are pushing pro caca bs and completely cuck on every issue.

spurraider21
01-21-2018, 01:00 AM
No it’s because you live in your little insulated bubble and anyone not completely bending over taking it up the butt is far right in your view. Go ahead and explain how fox is far right on anything other than tax rates. They are pushing pro caca bs and completely cuck on every issue.
nah you just have a warped view of the spectrum tbh

FuzzyLumpkins
01-21-2018, 04:27 AM
i think i averaged 5-6 sentences, run on and all... i thought your meltdownmeter was set at 11-12 sentences? fake news?

You should stop trying to think for me. It was more about the density of profanity, flailing insults, and homoerotic imagery.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-21-2018, 04:29 AM
"polls were wrong once, so they are wrong now, because I don't like what the polls show".

:rolleyes

Immigration is pretty much always good for the receiving country in the long run. People are assets, albeit mobile ones.

The polls in November had Hillary up by 3 points. He is quoting polls from the Summer and if the election had been held in July things would have been quite different.

As it was Hillary won the popular vote by 2 points. That is excellent accuracy.

You should never trust that Nazi's assertions or claims.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-21-2018, 04:32 AM
Its funny that to you people Fox News is far right. To me it’s center left.

Way to demonstrate your egomaniacal viewpoint. Fox News was founded by the RNC's director of media in the 90s. You should be able to grasp that you are the outlier in terms of political viewpoint and understand where you fit relative to everyone else. Instead you parse reality as if you are the norm.

That may not be stupid but it does speak to different mental challenges.

AaronY
01-21-2018, 06:35 AM
Its funny that to you people Fox News is far right. To me it’s center left.
Jesus, if Fox News is center left lmao

SpursforSix
01-21-2018, 12:28 PM
Built with American steel paid for by Mexicans. :tu

They're getting off cheap. I'm guessing that's maybe $100 of materials .

koriwhat
01-21-2018, 04:15 PM
You should stop trying to think for me. It was more about the density of profanity, flailing insults, and homoerotic imagery.

i don't give a fuck that i cuss. then again mommy and daddy sheltered you and are still doing so to this day with their blood money. fuck you and your dead parents.

Blake
01-21-2018, 04:27 PM
fuck you and your dead parents.

:cry "but i don't melt down"

koriwhat
01-21-2018, 04:27 PM
:cry "but i don't melt down"

not a meltdown at all whatever the fuck that stupid shit might be. but yeah fuck fagglumps and his dead dipshit ass parents.

Blake
01-21-2018, 04:28 PM
not a meltdown at all

:lol

koriwhat
01-21-2018, 04:29 PM
:lol

and fuck you too faggot

boutons_deux
01-21-2018, 04:37 PM
How Immigrants Positively Affect the Business Community and the U.S. Economy

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2016/06/22/140124/how-immigrants-positively-affect-the-business-community-and-the-u-s-economy/ (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2016/06/22/140124/how-immigrants-positively-affect-the-business-community-and-the-u-s-economy/)


Immigrants' impact on the U.S. economy in 7 charts

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigrants-impact-on-the-u-s-economy-in-7-charts/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigrants-impact-on-the-u-s-economy-in-7-charts/)




THE EFFECTS OF IMMIGRATION ON THE UNITED STATES’ ECONOMY


http://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy (http://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy)


3 Reasons Why Immigrants Are Key To Economic Growth

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2016/10/02/3-reasons-why-immigrants-key-to-economic-growth/#74c5f6a77dab (https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2016/10/02/3-reasons-why-immigrants-key-to-economic-growth/#74c5f6a77dab)

The Great Boutons bitch slapping racist rightwingnuts in a barrel

Chris
01-21-2018, 05:16 PM
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AaronY
01-21-2018, 05:23 PM
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Trump does all kinds of executive orders dodo

Trainwreck2100
01-21-2018, 05:25 PM
didn't the dems and repubs come to trump with with a bipartisan plan that included DACA stuff?

Chris
01-21-2018, 05:28 PM
Trump does all kinds of executive orders dodo

Classic whataboutism.

koriwhat
01-21-2018, 05:31 PM
fuck daca and all the mindless hacks of this nation that think the illegal program of daca is so popular.

boutons_deux
01-21-2018, 05:47 PM
didn't the dems and repubs come to trump with with a bipartisan plan that included DACA stuff?

Schumer offered $20B for the wall and DACA to be fixed.

Trash said ok, talks to Miller, then says no.

Miller and other racists, nativists want LEGAL immigration severely restricted, too

Repugs have said NO, 16 times

koriwhat
01-21-2018, 06:25 PM
Schumer offered $20B for the wall and DACA to be fixed.

Trash said ok, talks to Miller, then says no.

Miller and other racists, nativists want LEGAL immigration severely restricted, too

Repugs have said NO, 16 times

how about build that damn wall already and throw those fucking illegals over the top of it. fuck daca and its advocates! bring law and order back to this damn nation already. all you utopia fucks can follow them illegals back to their shitholes from where they came.

Chris
01-21-2018, 06:34 PM
how about build that damn wall already and throw those fucking illegals over the top of it. fuck daca and its advocates! bring law and order back to this damn nation already. all you utopia fucks can follow them illegals back to their shitholes from where they came.

They made it clear they were moving to Canada if Trump won. Guess how many reneged on that? :lol A chance to post one of my favorite youtubes :lol

zIH-J3uLN3E

koriwhat
01-21-2018, 06:37 PM
They made it clear they were moving to Canada if Trump won. Guess how many reneged on that? :lol A chance to post one of my favorite youtubes :lol

zIH-J3uLN3E

all of them backed away from that claim... too bad fake plastic fuck cher and the rest of the circus didn't exodus north to the great unknown. what a bunch of hosers!

Axl Rose
01-21-2018, 06:53 PM
Way to demonstrate your egomaniacal viewpoint. Fox News was founded by the RNC's director of media in the 90s. You should be able to grasp that you are the outlier in terms of political viewpoint and understand where you fit relative to everyone else. Instead you parse reality as if you are the norm.

That may not be stupid but it does speak to different mental challenges.
The RNC isn’t far right either dumbass, they are also center left. Republicans have always cucked on the issues and that’s why we are approaching the point of them being relegated to just a regional party that can’t compete nationally. Trump barelyyy won and he ran on a completely different platform than your average republican and McCain before him got beat like a dog.

Chris
01-21-2018, 07:52 PM
955115906774065159

Blake
01-21-2018, 07:54 PM
955115906774065159

Rofl "Girl Bot"

Pavlov
01-21-2018, 08:04 PM
955115906774065159I like that "bot" is included in the twitter handle so you won't get confused.

dabom
01-21-2018, 08:07 PM
Rofl "Girl Bot"


I like that "bot" is included in the twitter handle so you won't get confused.

:lmao

FuzzyLumpkins
01-21-2018, 09:55 PM
The RNC isn’t far right either dumbass, they are also center left. Republicans have always cucked on the issues and that’s why we are approaching the point of them being relegated to just a regional party that can’t compete nationally. Trump barelyyy won and he ran on a completely different platform than your average republican and McCain before him got beat like a dog.

:lol so you double down on the egocentric viewpoint.

You simply cannot tell the difference. I suggest going to see a shrink.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-21-2018, 09:57 PM
didn't the dems and repubs come to trump with with a bipartisan plan that included DACA stuff?

Graham and Durdin produced a bipartisan bill and Trump rejected it.

Chris
01-22-2018, 04:07 PM
955527681864622080

Blake
01-22-2018, 04:32 PM
955527681864622080

Chris is better than other humans because he was born on this side of the border and wants to keep it that way.

Because that's what jesus commands.

koriwhat
01-22-2018, 05:36 PM
Chris is better than other humans because he was born on this side of the border and wants to keep it that way.

Because that's what jesus commands.

oh shut the fuck up sissy

Blake
01-22-2018, 05:55 PM
oh shut the fuck up sissy

So angry all the time

koriwhat
01-22-2018, 06:01 PM
So angry all the time

not angry at all... just smh at your poor attempt to guilt chris into buying in to your bs utopia.

dabom
01-22-2018, 06:06 PM
Chris regularly posts bible quotes. :lmao

Blake
01-22-2018, 06:06 PM
not angry at all... just smh at your poor attempt to guilt chris into buying in to your bs utopia.

Lol your always angry.

Chris is the one selling. I'm making fun of his sorry attempts.

dabom
01-22-2018, 06:06 PM
Hasn't everyone been an immigrant at one point? :lol

Bible wise.

Blake
01-22-2018, 06:07 PM
The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. –*Leviticus 19:34

dabom
01-22-2018, 06:09 PM
The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. –*Leviticus 19:34

God has a very special place in Hell for chris.

RandomGuy
01-22-2018, 06:11 PM
955115906774065159

um, you know that is satire, right?

:lmao can't tell the difference

dabom
01-22-2018, 06:12 PM
Girlbot. :lmao

dabom
01-22-2018, 06:14 PM
"@notabot" on her bio. :lmao

Blake
01-22-2018, 06:16 PM
um, you know that is satire, right?

:lmao can't tell the difference

Not the first time he's whiffed. Most likely won't be the last

boutons_deux
01-22-2018, 06:45 PM
Ethnic cleansing of DACA browns in a few weeks

White House says it might start deporting DREAMers on March 5

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-deport-dreamers-1c8609796913/

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:03 PM
Ethnic cleansing of DACA browns in a few weeks

White House says it might start deporting DREAMers on March 5

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-deport-dreamers-1c8609796913/

Boukaki, as usual your "headline" is not what the article says.

It does rightfully point out, however, that Democrats are going to have to compromise on immigration reform if they want DACA written permanently into law.

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:08 PM
Chain migration needs to end. Just because one makes it over it shouldn't mean they can bring their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters who can bring their spouses who can then bring their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, whose spouses can then bring their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters on infinitely with zero regard for whether they can make a positive impact on society. Its an uncontrolled immigration geometric progression which makes absolutely no sense.

koriwhat
01-22-2018, 07:13 PM
Lol your always angry.

Chris is the one selling. I'm making fun of his sorry attempts.

you got me... perpetually pissed off! lol

pgardn
01-22-2018, 07:13 PM
I would like to trade Boots, Hater and Chris for any 3 Mexicans.

Chris
01-22-2018, 07:14 PM
um, you know that is satire, right?

:lmao can't tell the difference

You're a liar and a fool. Now go get your f'n shinebox, and take your cheerleaders with you Pleb.

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:15 PM
I would happily trade limiting chain migration to parents and siblings only for a path to citizenship for DACA kids and a law that requires ALL employers to use e-verify.

Chris
01-22-2018, 07:18 PM
Dems are so desperate for that minority vote that they will do ANYTHING. This is nothing new.

koriwhat
01-22-2018, 07:22 PM
Dems are so desperate for that minority vote that they will do ANYTHING. This is nothing new.

indeed. they're a very desperate bunch of losers.

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:23 PM
As much as you guys hate Trump, its hilarious that he will get the credit for finally making congress get serious about dealing with these kids with actual legislation.

baseline bum
01-22-2018, 07:23 PM
I would happily trade limiting chain migration to parents and siblings only for a path to citizenship for DACA kids and a law that requires ALL employers to use e-verify.

I agree though I would make employers face criminal charges for hiring illegals, and I would zero out the funding for the wall and instead allocate it for raids and for prosecuting people who make illegal hirings. I'd also get rid of the green card lottery, that shit is stupid, and make speaking English a requirement since we want immigrants to assimilate. The only exception I'd make on language is citizens who want to bring their parents over to take care of them. It might be unreasonable to expect a sixty year old to be able to learn a new language.

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:26 PM
I agree though I would make employers face criminal charges for hiring illegals, and I would zero out the funding for the wall and instead allocate it for raids and for prosecuting people who make illegal hirings. I'd also get rid of the green card lottery, that shit is stupid, and make speaking English a requirement since we want immigrants to assimilate. The only exception I'd make on language is citizens who want to bring their parents over to take care of them. It might be unreasonable to expect a sixty year old to be able to learn a new language.

Agree on all points.

rmt
01-22-2018, 07:27 PM
Hopefully, the Dems have NOT learned their lesson and try another shutdown. Even the hardcore libs at work don't want to hear about government shutdown and were complaining about illegal immigrants. My wish list (in order):

1. End to chain migration (which includes no parents of CURRENT daca recipients [only those signed up] who caused the problem)
2. End to diversity lottery - use merit-based criteria on each individual.
3. E-verify - heavy fines for employers who violate
4. System to track/follow up visa overstays
5. Border security - not necessarily a wall but stop them from coming in.

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:28 PM
You can be sure that the price of protein will skyrocket if they did that. The giant food corps are huge employers of illegals.

rmt
01-22-2018, 07:33 PM
You can be sure that the price of protein will skyrocket if they did that. The giant food corps are huge employers of illegals.

It's a WISH list, CC - ain't gonna happen. I'd settle for what you stated above but no parents or siblings - spouse and minor/dependent children.

baseline bum
01-22-2018, 07:34 PM
You can be sure that the price of protein will skyrocket if they did that. The giant food corps are huge employers of illegals.

Then you allow those workers to come over here legally during growing seasons and pay payroll taxes, then they go back home. Same way we do with temporary workers for vacation season in the national parks, in hotels, and in restaurants in tourist areas. Our economy would definitely collapse without being able to import workers for these kind of jobs that are temporary, pay lousy money, and require relocation.

hater
01-22-2018, 07:34 PM
Lmao demoshits are actually blaming Russians for their latst fuckup :lmao

Holeee sheeet

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:37 PM
Then you allow those workers to come over here legally during growing seasons and pay payroll taxes, then they go back home. Same way we do with temporary workers for vacation season in the national parks, in hotels, and in restaurants in tourist areas. Our economy would definitely collapse without being able to import workers for these kind of jobs that are temporary, pay lousy money, and require relocation.

Poultry, pork and beef production and slaughter are year round and huge employers of illegals through subcontractors.

koriwhat
01-22-2018, 07:38 PM
Lmao demoshits are actually blaming Russians for their latst fuckup :lmao

Holeee sheeet

what's new?

spurraider21
01-22-2018, 07:44 PM
I don't have a problem with chain migration, and I'm also not against having an English language requirement as part of permanent residence (with an age exception like bb mentioned). it's kinda silly that the US hasn't officially adopted english as an official language (though 32 states have)

baseline bum
01-22-2018, 07:44 PM
Poultry, pork and beef production and slaughter are year round and huge employers of illegals through subcontractors.

Crap, I read that wrong. That work needs to be done by Americans and in the open so it can be properly regulated. That way there can be decent enough working conditions that shit isn't constantly ending up in our meat the way it is now.

CosmicCowboy
01-22-2018, 07:47 PM
Funny story. About 20 years ago I had reason to be at Tyson in Seguin and had the opportunity to watch chicke s by the thousands being unloaded. They would arrive on 18 wheelers in these 4' x 4' x 1' wooden crates and go on a conveyor into this big box. The empty crates would come out of a conveyor on tbe side and tbe chickens would come out hanging by one foot on a conveyor that took them by a spinning wire that cut their throat and started the process to tbe grocery store. I puzzled and puzzled over how that damn machine hung those chickens up like that. Curiosity finally got the better of me and I walked over there. The box had a door and I opened it...and found about 20 mexican women chasing chickens around the room cussing them in spanish.

baseline bum
01-22-2018, 07:57 PM
^ :lmao

AaronY
01-22-2018, 10:08 PM
Hopefully, the Dems have NOT learned their lesson and try another shutdown. Even the hardcore libs at work don't want to hear about government shutdown and were complaining about illegal immigrants. My wish list (in order):

1. End to chain migration (which includes no parents of CURRENT daca recipients [only those signed up] who caused the problem)
2. End to diversity lottery - use merit-based criteria on each individual.
3. E-verify - heavy fines for employers who violate
4. System to track/follow up visa overstays
5. Border security - not necessarily a wall but stop them from coming in.
What a thoroughly pathetic inability to understand the American dream

CosmicCowboy
01-23-2018, 07:58 AM
What a pathetic misrepresentation of the American dream. That is for legal immigrants that assimilate and become productive members of society.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-23-2018, 08:05 AM
:lol like that arch conservative hack is really a jamaican housewife in FL.

CosmicCowboy
01-23-2018, 08:38 AM
Funny trivia I just read. Mexicans may really pay for the wall. In the past, illegal immigrants could use their ITIN to claim the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. The child credit especially was massively abused as they could work in the US and claim 30 kids in mexico if they wanted. This cost 24 billion over 10 years. The new tax law only allows these credits to people actually holding valid social security numbers. That savings is more than the wall will allegedly cost lol.

pgardn
01-23-2018, 08:47 AM
Rich Mexicans have already paid for it in Texas State taxes on holidays.

Mexico... Nah...

Most Mexicans take our dollar whilst we watch them trim our trees from the couch.

Blake
01-23-2018, 08:55 AM
Funny trivia I just read. Mexicans may really pay for the wall. In the past, illegal immigrants could use their ITIN to claim the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. The child credit especially was massively abused as they could work in the US and claim 30 kids in mexico if they wanted. This cost 24 billion over 10 years. The new tax law only allows these credits to people actually holding valid social security numbers. That savings is more than the wall will allegedly cost lol.

Oh you mean that funny trivia from Jeff Sessions.

You're stupid.

CosmicCowboy
01-23-2018, 08:58 AM
Blake, how did it feel walking in on your wife with her heels behind her ears as she screamed "oh god!!! You are so much bigger than my husband!"

Axl Rose
01-23-2018, 09:50 AM
Blake, how did it feel walking in on your wife with her heels behind her ears as she screamed "oh god!!! You are so much bigger than my husband!"
:lmao thats the way to deal with someone who practices liberal taqqiya, don’t even respond seriously just spam ad hom. He might be able to lie but he ain’t smart enough to outwit you this way. He will just grumble and take it like he did that fateful day!!

Blake
01-23-2018, 10:54 AM
Lol

Axl Rose
01-23-2018, 11:06 AM
This isn’t 1998 we don’t lol anymore we lel.

Pavlov
01-23-2018, 11:11 AM
You can be sure that the price of protein will skyrocket if they did that. The giant food corps are huge employers of illegals.
How much would it go up?

hater
01-23-2018, 11:15 AM
Lol the dms qre so incomptent they might offer the daca kids as slqves to huild trump wall

What a bunch on incompetnt buffoons :lol

Trump is running circles around these idiots

Blake
01-23-2018, 12:21 PM
This isn’t 1998 we don’t lol anymore we lel.


lol you really are clueless.

Lel

Axl Rose
01-23-2018, 01:36 PM
You’re still doing it wrong, it was a boomer-esque insult so lol is still proper. For anything else lel should be used. But your wife was lem (loving every minute)

Blake
01-23-2018, 02:05 PM
You’re still doing it wrong, it was a boomer-esque insult so lol is still proper. For anything else lel should be used. But your wife was lem (loving every minute)

Hand puppet laying rules.

Lel.

Axl Rose
01-23-2018, 02:49 PM
Just making you feel at home, laying rules just like your bull does.

Have you ever thought about just getting a new handle? Just start over, that thread ruined you lel.

Blake
01-23-2018, 03:14 PM
Just making you feel at home, laying rules just like your bull does.

Have you ever thought about just getting a new handle? Just start over, that thread ruined you lel.

It doesn't bother me and i like seeing who goes this route after being shown up as stupid.

Why are you hiding behind this handle, dmc?

Axl Rose
01-23-2018, 03:19 PM
Lel shown up as stupid

Blake
01-23-2018, 03:39 PM
Lel shown up as stupid

Lel yeah. It's funny.

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 04:19 PM
Rich Mexicans have already paid for it in Texas State taxes on holidays.

Mexico... Nah...

Most Mexicans take our dollar whilst we watch them trim our trees from the couch.

you obviously know nothing... rich mexicans, not citizens, use tax free cards when buying out here. i've seen it plenty.

AaronY
01-23-2018, 04:32 PM
What a pathetic misrepresentation of the American dream. That is for legal immigrants that assimilate and become productive members of society.
Mainly I was referring to the not bringing families over and the merit based stuff which has never been how immigration is done in American history. Pretty much every person here comes from a single diet poor immigrant who came to America in search of a better life

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 04:46 PM
Mainly I was referring to the not bringing families over and the merit based stuff which has never been how immigration is done in American history. Pretty much every person here comes from a single diet poor immigrant who came to America in search of a better life

this isn't the 1400's anymore homie nor the 1700's, this is 2018. let these dreamers dream about making their own damn country great again and finally allow our citizens dreams to come to fruition instead.

Blake
01-23-2018, 05:08 PM
this isn't the 1400's anymore homie nor the 1700's, this is 2018. let these dreamers dream about making their own damn country great again and finally allow our citizens dreams to come to fruition instead.

Poor KW unable to make his dreams come true. Had to settle for inking people.

rmt
01-23-2018, 05:24 PM
Those pesky welfare programs that OUR taxpayer dollars support didn't exist for the majority of our history - when the American dream was alive and well. When stats show that immigrants are coming in and ending up on welfare at very high rates - that's when things need to change. Don't come if you intend to be a burden to American taxpayers. I don't see any of you liberals commenting on those immigrant/welfare stats. Do you really want to be paying for that?

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 05:28 PM
Poor KW unable to make his dreams come true. Had to settle for inking people.

my dream is to leave this rock behind and you fuckers in the dirt. in the mean time, i'll just keep on keeping on.

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 05:30 PM
Those pesky welfare programs that OUR taxpayer dollars support didn't exist for the majority of our history - when the American dream was alive and well. When stats show that immigrants are coming in and ending up on welfare at very high rates - that's when things need to change. Don't come if you intend to be a burden to American taxpayers. I don't see any of you liberals commenting on those immigrant/welfare stats. Do you really want to be paying for that?

:tu

it's because they're dreamers themselves and live in a cesspool of white guilt. you notice the ones who scream and cry the most are pathetic whites? their dreams are different though; a utopia that'll never exist. bunch of fucking losers the lot of them.

AaronY
01-23-2018, 05:37 PM
Those pesky welfare programs that OUR taxpayer dollars support didn't exist for the majority of our history - when the American dream was alive and well. When stats show that immigrants are coming in and ending up on welfare at very high rates - that's when things need to change. Don't come if you intend to be a burden to American taxpayers. I don't see any of you liberals commenting on those immigrant/welfare stats. Do you really want to be paying for that?
You cherry pick stats to ignore all the positive economic contributions of immigrants and then wonder why anyone likes them. Its embarrassing especially who supposedly is an immigrant

Blake
01-23-2018, 05:37 PM
Those pesky welfare programs that OUR taxpayer dollars support didn't exist for the majority of our history - when the American dream was alive and well. When stats show that immigrants are coming in and ending up on welfare at very high rates - that's when things need to change. Don't come if you intend to be a burden to American taxpayers. I don't see any of you liberals commenting on those immigrant/welfare stats. Do you really want to be paying for that?

When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:33-34).


Can I get an amen

Blake
01-23-2018, 05:38 PM
my dream is to leave this rock behind and you fuckers in the dirt. in the mean time, i'll just keep on keeping on.

What rock? You mean like you want to be an astronaut?

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 05:39 PM
When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:33-34).


Can I get an amen

don't worry blake we'll just start quoting your holy quran.

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 05:39 PM
When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:33-34).


Can I get an amen

don't worry blake we'll just start quoting your holy quran.

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 05:41 PM
What rock? You mean like you want to be an astronaut?

sure, who doesn't want to explore space though i already have on lsd and the like. i'm trying to get beyond the void homie.

Blake
01-23-2018, 06:01 PM
sure, who doesn't want to explore space though i already have on lsd and the like. i'm trying to get beyond the void homie.

That explains much

rmt
01-23-2018, 06:17 PM
You cherry pick stats to ignore all the positive economic contributions of immigrants and then wonder why anyone likes them. Its embarrassing especially who supposedly is an immigrant

Figure 6. Welfare use is high both for new arrivals and well-established immigrants

Any Welfare

Native 30%

Immigrants
< 5 years in the US - about 50%
5 to 10 years - about 51%
11 to 15 years - about 54%
16 to 21 years - about 56%
> 21 years - about 47%


https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

So after > 21 years, 47% of them are on welfare. Welfare should be for a pick me up if you fall on bad luck - not a LIFESTYLE.

I am not embarrassed at all. I got in line, came here legally, lived the American Dream and want my children to live that American Dream and that doesn't look like that's gonna happen. What do you think is going to eventually happen to the country with open borders and immigrants coming in and half of them STILL on welfare AFTER > 21 YEARS?

koriwhat
01-23-2018, 06:41 PM
That explains much

it does. psychedelics explain a whole hell of a lot.

AaronY
01-23-2018, 07:48 PM
Figure 6. Welfare use is high both for new arrivals and well-established immigrants

Any Welfare

Native 30%

Immigrants
< 5 years in the US - about 50%
5 to 10 years - about 51%
11 to 15 years - about 54%
16 to 21 years - about 56%
> 21 years - about 47%


https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

So after > 21 years, 47% of them are on welfare. Welfare should be for a pick me up if you fall on bad luck - not a LIFESTYLE.

I am not embarrassed at all. I got in line, came here legally, lived the American Dream and want my children to live that American Dream and that doesn't look like that's gonna happen. What do you think is going to eventually happen to the country with open borders and immigrants coming in and half of them STILL on welfare AFTER > 21 YEARS?
How about stats related to immigrants effects on economic growth?

spurraider21
01-23-2018, 07:49 PM
What a thoroughly pathetic inability to understand the American dream
what do you mean? isn't the american dream where a rich person from one country comes to america to be rich here?

rmt
01-23-2018, 08:29 PM
How about stats related to immigrants effects on economic growth?

Who is the one who brought up the "positive economic contributions of immigrants"? Who should be the one to provide stats to back up that statement?

Common sense says that if that high a percentage of immigrants are on welfare for > 21 years, that the rest of them don't balance them out. There should be a sizable number who are struggling (just like the average American) but not on welfare and some (but probably a small percentage) are doing well.

rmt
01-23-2018, 08:34 PM
what do you mean? isn't the american dream where a rich person from one country comes to america to be rich here?

Nobody said that they had to be rich but they should have some skill, education, language that indicates that they will be a positive to America and not a drain (as in not being among the 47% on welfare after > 21 years)?

Chris
01-23-2018, 08:48 PM
AaronY with usual bads :lol I usually just scroll past when I see the creepy jailbait sig. Doubt you'll get an answer rmt.

Blake
01-23-2018, 08:59 PM
Doubt you'll get an answer rmt.

That's rich

rmt
01-23-2018, 09:06 PM
That's rich

Are you referring to my not answering your quote from the Bible? IMO, it's pretty weak if you won't debate the topic on its merits and resort to quoting bible verses when I've already said I'm not going to discuss religion on this board. Look where my last attempt to answer a biblical question ended.

Chris
01-23-2018, 09:24 PM
Report: 94 Percent of Confirmed Non-Citizens in Federal Custody Unlawfully Present

Survey of federal prison population finds almost 60,000 known or suspected aliens


More than 35,000 individuals held in federal custody are unlawfully present in the United States, according to new data released Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security.

DHS counted some 58,766 known or suspected aliens in federal custody for the end of fiscal year 2017. Sixty-four percent of those individuals have been confirmed by Immigration and Customs Enforcement to be illegal aliens, while the remainder are still under investigation by ICE to determine their immigration status.

The total is divided among 39,455 people held in facilities administered by the federal Bureau of Prisons, as well as 19,311 people held in pretrial detention by the U.S. Marshals Service.

Among those whose status had been confirmed, 94 percent were determined to be unlawfully present. That includes a 92 percent unlawful rate among those in BOP custody, and a 97 percent rate among those in USMS custody.

This report, the third released this year, was released pursuant to an executive order issued by President Donald Trump in January. That order instructed DHS and the Department of Justice to collaborate in collecting information about incarcerated immigrants, towards the end of enacting the president’s aggressive immigration reform agenda.

Immigrants make up 22 percent of the federal prison population, as compared against 13.5 percent of the overall population. However, much of this disparity may be attributable to the federal government's responsibility for policing immigration offenses specifically—as of 2016, 62.8 percent of non-citizens incarcerated at the federal level faced charges of illegal reentry, an immigration offense.

The new report does not provide information about the distribution of offenses among the confirmed or suspected illegal alien offender population. Senior administration officials indicated that that information would be available in future reports, and referred reporters to information from the United States Sentencing Commission, which they said suggested that non-citizens were more likely to be convicted of immigration, money laundering, and drug offenses, especially along the southern border.

In general, non-citizen immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than U.S. citizens, and are less likely to be incarcerated than citizens. It is unclear as to what explains this disparity, though explanations include the threat of deportation that immigrants may face if caught committing a crime, thus adding to their overall possible punishment as compared against citizens.

Even one crime committed by an unlawfully present individual is too many in Attorney General Jeff Sessions's opinion.

"The simple fact is that any offense committed by a criminal alien is ultimately preventable. One victim is too many," Sessions said. "It's time for Congress to enact the President's immigration reform agenda so that we start welcoming the best and brightest while turning away drug dealers, gang members, and other criminals."

Also absent from the report is any information about incarceration of known or suspected aliens in state or local custody. These jails and prisons account for more than 90 percent of America's overall incarceration, meaning that the lack of state-level data leaves a conspicuous hole in the overall information in the report.

"DHS and DOJ are working to develop a reliable methodology for estimating the status of state and local incarcerated populations in future reports," the report noted.

Recently appointed Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen nonetheless saw the report as evidence of the need for more work by her department.

"While the administration is working diligently to remove dangerous criminal aliens from our streets, this report highlights the fact that more must be done," Nielsen said. "We will continue to pursue President Trump's immigration priorities, including securing the border, enhancing interior enforcement, and pursuing a merit-based immigration system, but Congress must act immediately to adopt obvious solutions to strengthen DHS and DOJ efforts to confront dangerous criminal aliens."

Such policy solutions include an end to chain migration and the implementation of a merit-based system like the one proposed by Sens. Tom Cotton (R., Ark.) and David Perdue (R., Ga.) in the RAISE Act, a bill the Trump administration backs.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/report-94-percent-confirmed-non-citizens-federal-custody-unlawfully-present/

AaronY
01-23-2018, 09:49 PM
Who is the one who brought up the "positive economic contributions of immigrants"? Who should be the one to provide stats to back up that statement?

Common sense says that if that high a percentage of immigrants are on welfare for > 21 years, that the rest of them don't balance them out. There should be a sizable number who are struggling (just like the average American) but not on welfare and some (but probably a small percentage) are doing well.
WHy should I post anything? You won't believe it anyway.


then you'll get back to your main agenda when it comes to immigrant facts:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201412/r1367464_19263895.jpg

AaronY
01-23-2018, 10:04 PM
No one believed the 90% poll from CBS I posted or the 83% from Fox News which is a liberal propaganda machine apparently and he wants to post more facts so he can say theyre made up too lol

Blake
01-23-2018, 10:24 PM
Are you referring to my not answering your quote from the Bible? IMO, it's pretty weak if you won't debate the topic on its merits and resort to quoting bible verses when I've already said I'm not going to discuss religion on this board. Look where my last attempt to answer a biblical question ended.

I didn't ask you a question. I do think evangelical Christians that are against daca are ridiculously huge hypocrites.

No, it was for Chris. He hates answering questions about the things he posts.

Chris
01-23-2018, 11:18 PM
POLL: Majority Of Americans Agree With Trump On DACA, Immigration


Voters across both party lines appear to be in agreement with President Donald Trump’s immigration priorities, a new Harvard-Harris Poll finds.

The poll, weighted to be broadly representative of the U.S. population, found that 65% of voters overall agreed with Trump’s position that any bill codifying Obama-era protections for illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children should be accompanied by funding for a wall, ending chain migration, and ending the diversity visa lottery program.

The individual elements of each of Trump’s demands remain broadly popular as well. On the most controversial subject of the border wall, 53 percent of respondents said they supported “building a combination of physical and electronic barriers across the US-Mexico border,” and 61 percent said current security along the US-Mexico border is inadequate.

79 percent of respondents said they believed “immigration priority for those coming to the U.S. should be based on a person’s ability to contribute to America as measured by their education and skills or based on a person having relatives in the US.” The statement is broadly representative of Trump’s bid to end chain migration via family ties and prioritize immigration policy that favors high skilled individuals.

The diversity visa lottery program saw a similar 68 percent disapproval by voters.

Negotiations between the White House and Capitol Hill are likely to escalate further as a new February 9 deadline approaches. Senate Democrats ended a three day government shutdown Monday largely fueled by a current impasse over DACA and funding for a border wall, which Democratic lawmakers have insisted is a waste of money.

Trump however has made clear funding for the wall is an absolute must in any deal along with his two other immigration priorities.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/22/poll-majority-of-americans-agree-with-trump-on-daca-immigration/

Trill Clinton
01-23-2018, 11:28 PM
damn even the polish are catching L's from cadet bone spurs

955860135217426438

Trill Clinton
01-23-2018, 11:32 PM
955248904659980288

a tax paying, productive father and husband on the verge of being sent back to a country he's never stepped foot inhttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

and taxpayers have to pay to keep his ass in jail for no reasonhttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

dabom
01-23-2018, 11:57 PM
:lol

Chris
01-24-2018, 12:11 AM
tee hee

956015565776277510

spurraider21
01-24-2018, 12:38 AM
POLL: Majority Of Americans Agree With Trump On DACA, Immigration
same polls that said hillary was going to win tbh... fake news

boutons_deux
01-24-2018, 08:25 AM
I bet DACA loses, esp in the Repug House, esp with Freedom Kockus which controls the entire Repug memnership

DHS/ICE goons are moath-foaming in anticipation of brutalizing DACA people

Blake
01-24-2018, 09:13 AM
955248904659980288

a tax paying, productive father and husband on the verge of being sent back to a country he's never stepped foot inhttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

and taxpayers have to pay to keep his ass in jail for no reasonhttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

:cry illegal is illegal :cry

boutons_deux
01-24-2018, 09:42 AM
:cry illegal is illegal :cry

Read up more than this tweet. He has record of transgressions that most people never commit.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1734965

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 10:44 AM
When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:33-34).


Can I get an amen

This isnt christian sharia, bitch.

Blake
01-24-2018, 10:55 AM
This isnt christian sharia, bitch.

Lol so angry

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 10:59 AM
Lol so angry
Not angry, but its just ignorant of you to quote bible verses as justification for open borders. We are a country of laws, not jesus quotes.

hater
01-24-2018, 11:06 AM
:lmao “we are a country of laws” while illegally occupying Syria and fomenting terrorism, Sponsoring death squads in South america and spying on their own citizens

RandomGuy
01-24-2018, 11:07 AM
Not angry, but its just ignorant of you to quote bible verses as justification for open borders. We are a country of laws, not jesus quotes.

We are.

If we make the laws difficult to comply with, doesn't that imply that the law should probably be changed?

RandomGuy
01-24-2018, 11:08 AM
Not angry, but its just ignorant of you to quote bible verses as justification for open borders.

FWIW: I do agree with you that the bible is a stupid thing to base laws on.

Blake
01-24-2018, 11:32 AM
Not angry, but its just ignorant of you to quote bible verses as justification for open borders. We are a country of laws, not jesus quotes.

You're ignorant as to why I posted the verse, bitch.

Lol and yeah, you're still butthurt. You will be for a long time apparently.

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 11:43 AM
You're ignorant as to why I posted the verse, bitch.

Lol and yeah, you're still butthurt. You will be for a long time apparently.

Its pretty funny that the biggest cucked pissant loser in the forum thinks he can make anyone butthurt. Your self delusion is hilarious.

Blake
01-24-2018, 11:45 AM
Its pretty funny that the biggest cucked pissant loser in the forum thinks he can make anyone butthurt. Your self delusion is hilarious.

Your butthurt is funnier

Axl Rose
01-24-2018, 11:47 AM
You're ignorant as to why I posted the verse, bitch.

Lol and yeah, you're still butthurt. You will be for a long time apparently.

B-b-b-bitch. B-b-b-butthurt :cry

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 02:12 PM
He probably fantasizes he is hotter than Sancho too.

Blake
01-24-2018, 03:47 PM
He probably fantasizes he is hotter than Sancho too.

You're fantasizing that I'm ugly.

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 04:08 PM
So did you wife, obviously.

Blake
01-24-2018, 04:19 PM
That doesn't make sense.

Keep trying, tho. I'm enjoying the free rent.

Chris
01-24-2018, 04:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUUaOa-VAAAwWXE.jpg:large

Chris
01-24-2018, 04:43 PM
Bill getting blasted :lol

956234817514999808

Blake
01-24-2018, 04:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUUaOa-VAAAwWXE.jpg:large

Leviticus 19:33-34 and 24:22*– When the alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien.* The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt:* I am the Lord your God.”

spurraider21
01-24-2018, 04:50 PM
if chris likes mexico's immigration laws so much maybe he should move there

Chris
01-24-2018, 05:00 PM
DOJ is clamping down on sanctuary cities. Mayors are making threats. Dilly f'n dilly

koriwhat
01-24-2018, 05:00 PM
if chris likes mexico's immigration laws so much maybe he should move there

or maybe we should adopt those laws too?

Blake
01-24-2018, 05:03 PM
DOJ is clamping down on sanctuary cities. Mayors are making threats. Dilly f'n dilly

Leviticus 19:33-34 and 24:22*– When the alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien.* The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt:* I am the Lord your God.”

boutons_deux
01-24-2018, 05:03 PM
Mayors group calls off Trump meeting after Justice Department threatens sanctuary cities

... after the administration again threatened to withhold funding from nearly two dozen local governments they claimed aren’t following immigration laws (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/department-justice-demands-documents-over-sanctuary-cities-n840691).

the group’s leader canceled the session, citing the White House’s "decision to threaten mayors and demonize immigrants yet again."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/mayors-call-trump-meeting-after-justice-department-threatens-sanctuary-cities-n840721?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

monosylab1k
01-24-2018, 05:06 PM
or maybe we should adopt those laws too?

Mexico good now

koriwhat
01-24-2018, 05:24 PM
Mexico good now

i never said mexico was bad. i love mexico but sadly won't visit anymore. used to drive deep into mexico quite a bit. best experience was the 23 hr drive to acapulco when i was 25.

Chris
01-24-2018, 05:48 PM
i never said mexico was bad. i love mexico but sadly won't visit anymore. used to drive deep into mexico quite a bit. best experience was the 23 hr drive to acapulco when i was 25.

Come to Mexico, and get pulled over by a fake police office who is really cartel and get ready to fork over some serious money or your life. Sounds like fun!

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 05:51 PM
Come to Mexico, and get pulled over by a fake police office who is really cartel and get ready to fork over some serious money or your life. Sounds like fun!

They dont even have to be fake cartel. The real cops are corrupt as hell.

koriwhat
01-24-2018, 05:51 PM
Come to Mexico, and get pulled over by a fake police office who is really cartel and get ready to fork over some serious money or your life. Sounds like fun!

oh we got stopped not far into mexico, near monterrey, and the "cops" said we were speeding and threatened to take our license plates and jail us if we didn't pay $800. we paid $20 and went on our way. lol thank god my buddy who was with me was puro mexicano and talked our way out of that bs. the dude in front of us who got pulled over too didn't have luck like us and they already had his plates(texas too) off his car.

Chris
01-24-2018, 06:20 PM
They dont even have to be fake cartel. The real cops are corrupt as hell.

You're right. My high school buddies had to bribe every cop in town after they caught them with a joint and MIPs/public intoxication. :lol

Chris
01-24-2018, 06:23 PM
oh we got stopped not far into mexico, near monterrey, and the "cops" said we were speeding and threatened to take our license plates and jail us if we didn't pay $800. we paid $20 and went on our way. lol thank god my buddy who was with me was puro mexicano and talked our way out of that bs. the dude in front of us who got pulled over too didn't have luck like us and they already had his plates(texas too) off his car.

I know a guy who lives there for the majority of the year puro Mexicano. He comes to Texas for music festivals and things like that. He told me never to come there unless I was with him for the same things you are talking about. They take advantage of tourists just like in Jamaica.

CosmicCowboy
01-24-2018, 06:31 PM
Back before Nafta a frien of mine was a smuggler that smuggled high end electronics into mexico. Had a fleet of DC 3's. There was a big dog that controlled the Brownsville sector of the border. The anti-smuggler mexican aero-cops bought their jobs from him and then got to keep what they caught. The rule though was they had to patrol every night only where he told them to. My buddy paid this guy a bunch (probably 50k in todays dollars in cash every month) to call him every day and tell him where the "holes" were. It was a great gig for that guy. The mexican aerocops paid him a lot of money to work their asses off trying to catch the gringos that didnt pay him for safe passage.

koriwhat
01-24-2018, 07:13 PM
I know a guy who lives there for the majority of the year puro Mexicano. He comes to Texas for music festivals and things like that. He told me never to come there unless I was with him for the same things you are talking about. They take advantage of tourists just like in Jamaica.

my buddies in acapulco describe it as not safe these days... they said the cartels have infiltrated that city last i talked to them. i was going to fly into acapulco a couple yrs ago and they flat out said it wasn't safe for me to do so. that was the end of me contemplating visiting mexico ever again. such a beautiful country with great people but their govt is in bed with the cartels and both seek to keep that country poor and unsafe.

rmt
01-25-2018, 08:34 PM
I didn't ask you a question. I do think evangelical Christians that are against daca are ridiculously huge hypocrites.

No, it was for Chris. He hates answering questions about the things he posts.

My apologies.

Blake
01-25-2018, 09:26 PM
My apologies.

No sweat

monosylab1k
01-25-2018, 09:31 PM
oh we got stopped not far into mexico, near monterrey, and the "cops" said we were speeding and threatened to take our license plates and jail us if we didn't pay $800. we paid $20 and went on our way. lol thank god my buddy who was with me was puro mexicano and talked our way out of that bs. the dude in front of us who got pulled over too didn't have luck like us and they already had his plates(texas too) off his car.

Mexico bad now.

InRareForm
01-25-2018, 10:18 PM
my buddies in acapulco describe it as not safe these days... they said the cartels have infiltrated that city last i talked to them. i was going to fly into acapulco a couple yrs ago and they flat out said it wasn't safe for me to do so. that was the end of me contemplating visiting mexico ever again. such a beautiful country with great people but their govt is in bed with the cartels and both seek to keep that country poor and unsafe.

South America is better to visit imo

InRareForm
01-25-2018, 10:19 PM
oh we got stopped not far into mexico, near monterrey, and the "cops" said we were speeding and threatened to take our license plates and jail us if we didn't pay $800. we paid $20 and went on our way. lol thank god my buddy who was with me was puro mexicano and talked our way out of that bs. the dude in front of us who got pulled over too didn't have luck like us and they already had his plates(texas too) off his car.
800 to 20 is a big drop off... how did u guys get to 20

koriwhat
01-26-2018, 04:29 PM
Mexico bad now.

not sure exactly how bad. however, i do miss mexico plenty. love that country and its people. mole for days!


South America is better to visit imo

never been. always wanted to travel further and further and i was doing that yearly until mexico got dangerous.


800 to 20 is a big drop off... how did u guys get to 20

you'd have to ask my friend. i am no way fluent in spanish and he talked us out of a huge amount of $. he was born in small town about 7-9 hrs into mexico. i guess being puro mexicano has its advantages. the other dude wasn't as lucky as us though. that shit was crazy watching those cops pull those plates off that other dude's car as he pleaded and pleaded with them.

boutons_deux
01-26-2018, 10:55 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/499902/story_image/01-25-2018-mcfadden915px.png?1516841097

Blake
01-26-2018, 11:06 PM
The funniest thing on there is the milk carton

Spurtacular
01-27-2018, 01:22 AM
The funniest thing on there is the milk carton

The funniest thing is that you think this narrative is real.

dabom
01-27-2018, 02:39 AM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/499902/story_image/01-25-2018-mcfadden915px.png?1516841097
Needs a bigger forehead.

dabom
01-27-2018, 02:40 AM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--zdj9RvEy--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/bhxvsugtgjgmsba9c7l2.jpg

Isitjustme?
01-27-2018, 12:59 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/499902/story_image/01-25-2018-mcfadden915px.png?1516841097

Finally found someone to compete with Chris cartoons

Isitjustme?
01-27-2018, 12:59 PM
https://images.dailykos.com/images/499902/story_image/01-25-2018-mcfadden915px.png?1516841097

What's the cartoonist name?

rmt
01-27-2018, 02:27 PM
No one believed the 90% poll from CBS I posted or the 83% from Fox News which is a liberal propaganda machine apparently and he wants to post more facts so he can say theyre made up too lol

Aaron, keep posting to back up what you believe - don't let what others think stop you. Of course, polls are more unreliable than data/studies depending on who was polled. But even charts/studies should be viewed skeptically - eg. one posted on this board that included health benefits, medicare benefits, etc as INCOME. Try to verify - so often we have heard something repeated so many times that we believe it's true. I didn't know about this diversity lottery or chain migration before this whole topic came up. We are all better educated on the subject - that's a good thing.

koriwhat
01-27-2018, 03:26 PM
The funniest thing on there is the milk carton

funniest thing of all is the fact that he's jewish and depicted to be some sort of kkk clansman. fucking retarded.

spurraider21
01-27-2018, 05:53 PM
funniest thing of all is the fact that he's jewish and depicted to be some sort of kkk clansman. fucking retarded.
:lmao says the guy who calls soros a jewish nazi

koriwhat
01-27-2018, 08:33 PM
:lmao says the guy who calls soros a jewish nazi

i don't remember hearing miller, out of his own mouth, claim to have gone confiscating property from soon to be death camp goers but that's none of my business anyhow...

koriwhat
01-27-2018, 08:35 PM
btw SR, why so hard up to suck the dick of the devil? those that think it's ok for that evil sob to breathe another breath are just as fucked up as he is.

spurraider21
01-27-2018, 08:41 PM
jewish KKK? IMPOSSIBLE

jewish Nazi? STOP DEFENDING HIM

:lmao

koriwhat
01-27-2018, 09:08 PM
jewish KKK? IMPOSSIBLE

jewish Nazi? STOP DEFENDING HIM

:lmao

answer me this, if soros can't be a "nazi" per se, then how is it all these white men in the USA are nazis? i mean, none of these white men walked side by side with nazi's like soros did, none of them confiscated property like soros helped with, none of them were even around back in the 40's and yet soros was. oh yeah, i forgot soros was just trying to "survive". is he trying to "survive" now by orchestrating regime change worldwide, lobbying to open borders, dumping huge sums of $ into "protests" that turn into riots, etc???? fuck that dude and anyone who wants to turn a blind eye to him like yourself. yall are both scum.

spurraider21
01-27-2018, 09:14 PM
answer me this, if soros can't be a "nazi" per se, then how is it all these white men in the USA are nazis? i mean, none of these white men walked side by side with nazi's like soros did, none of them confiscated property like soros helped with, none of them were even around back in the 40's and yet soros was.
lol. asked and answered in that other thread when this whole conspiracy was dealt with

oh yeah, i forgot soros was just trying to "survive". is he trying to "survive" now by orchestrating regime change worldwide, lobbying to open borders, dumping huge sums of $ into "protests" that turn into riots, etc???? fuck that dude and anyone who wants to turn a blind eye to him like yourself. yall are both scum.
yeah nothing says nazi like opening borders

koriwhat
01-27-2018, 09:15 PM
lol. asked and answered in that other thread when this whole conspiracy was dealt with

yeah nothing says nazi like opening borders

nah and nah...

open borders isn't just some utopia bs he has in mind. don't act stupid about this even though that's what you're doing.

spurraider21
02-01-2018, 06:48 PM
959031505145212928

he's right, tbh.

democrats have to realize that they dont control shit right now... they have to bargain and not just hold out for a perfect deal. they're not in that position

koriwhat
02-01-2018, 06:54 PM
959031505145212928

he's right, tbh.

democrats have to realize that they dont control shit right now... they have to bargain and not just hold out for a perfect deal. they're not in that position

hopefully they do hold out and that deal comes off the table. fuck that bs illegal program!

CosmicCowboy
02-01-2018, 07:04 PM
hopefully they do hold out and that deal comes off the table. fuck that bs illegal program!
Uhhh...its only illegal if the president does it by executive order. Its perfectly legal if congress passes it. Thats why Trump was correct to end Obamas executive order and,send it back to congress where it belongs.

Chris
02-01-2018, 07:05 PM
hopefully they do hold out and that deal comes off the table. fuck that bs illegal program!

It really is sad, because I think a lot of people are sold on the 12 year plan for over 2 million 'dreamers.' Dems taking their ball and going home does absolutely nothing.
.'.

boutons_deux
02-01-2018, 07:07 PM
959031505145212928

he's right, tbh.

democrats have to realize that they dont control shit right now... they have to bargain and not just hold out for a perfect deal. they're not in that position

With 80% of Americans pro-DACA, Dems demand clean DACA, no fucking wall, or shut down govt

koriwhat
02-01-2018, 07:10 PM
It really is sad, because I think a lot of people are sold on the 12 year plan for over 2 million 'dreamers.' Dems taking their ball and going home does absolutely nothing.
.'.

it's all smoke and mirrors. the dems don't give a fuck about them "dreamers" just like they don't give a fuck about Americans. they create smoke by blowing issues like this out of proportion and placing blame on the other side while disregarding the law altogether to further the narrative that DJT is racist, etc... then when there's a deal for 3+ times the amount asked for they still balk at it as if they're getting the shit end of the deal. the mirror aspect of this all is their projection of their hatred.

koriwhat
02-01-2018, 07:11 PM
With 80% of Americans pro-DACA, Dems demand clean DACA, no fucking wall, or shut down govt

80% lmao whatever... let's see this poll of all citizens!

spurraider21
02-01-2018, 07:34 PM
80% lmao whatever... let's see this poll of all citizens!
i dont think you know how polls work

koriwhat
02-01-2018, 07:48 PM
i dont think you know how polls work

i don't think you know what real polls are. they aren't 300+ million people at 80% acceptance. more like, we polled our 5 interns and all of those 20 yr olds love the idea of opening the flood gates.

spurraider21
02-01-2018, 08:47 PM
i don't think you know what real polls are. they aren't 300+ million people at 80% acceptance. more like, we polled our 5 interns and all of those 20 yr olds love the idea of opening the flood gates.
thank you for confirming that you don't know how polls work

koriwhat
02-01-2018, 08:58 PM
thank you for confirming that you don't know how polls work

i know most of them are utter bullshit.

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/57c83dbab996eb580f8b5980-835/screen%20shot%202016-09-01%20at%2010.37.56%20am.png

rmt
02-01-2018, 08:59 PM
The Dems not jumping at this deal only proves that they prefer the chain migration/diversity lottery over the DACA-eligible people. The former will let in a lot more eventual Democrat voters than this 1+ million.

koriwhat
02-01-2018, 09:00 PM
The Dems not jumping at this deal only proves that they prefer the chain migration/diversity lottery over the DACA-eligible people. The former will let in a lot more eventual Democrat voters than this 1+ million.

:tu

they don't actually care at all about the people nor us legal citizens.

rmt
02-01-2018, 09:05 PM
:tu

they don't actually care at all about the people nor us legal citizens.

True - only getting/staying in power

AaronY
02-01-2018, 10:55 PM
i know most of them are utter bullshit.

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/57c83dbab996eb580f8b5980-835/screen%20shot%202016-09-01%20at%2010.37.56%20am.png
You act like 30% chance is .03% chance. Should have posted the HuffPo and Princeton ones that gave him like 1% chance

AaronY
02-01-2018, 10:56 PM
Also those are all predictive models that took the polls and used them to predict the future not the polls themselves

koriwhat
02-02-2018, 04:42 PM
You act like 30% chance is .03% chance. Should have posted the HuffPo and Princeton ones that gave him like 1% chance

no actually i pulled the 1st google image i found. i don't have to research to know how pathetic polling was for the 2016 presidential race. everyone is still sucking HRC's wrinkly old cock.

Pavlov
02-02-2018, 04:55 PM
i don't remember hearing miller, out of his own mouth, claim to have gone confiscating property from soon to be death camp goers but that's none of my business anyhow...Yeah, Soros didn't say that either.

Why do you lie?

koriwhat
02-02-2018, 04:57 PM
Yeah, Soros didn't say that either.

Why do you lie?

why are you so hard up to support a nazi? nazi sympathizer!