Game Thread: Spurs @ Raptors -- Fri. 1/19/18 - 6:00PM CT (2am Riga Time)

[sasaint]

A jumpshooting big is good enough for the 4th seed, but I'm convinced that this version of LMA is what we're going ti get when it counts.

LMA gets physical about one game in 20.

[bklynspursfan]

Lamarcus shooting very badly is actually the reason they weren't able to pull away when they got to within one point.... we all know he isn't passing either.

He was a big reason for the comeback but mostly put backs. Shot is just off tonight smh

[cd98]

Good return on our $50 mil investment.

[SAGirl]

ok this is raptor ref...

btw Kyle would have been better off puttin up one of his jump hooks than giving Patty 2 wide open 3s

[davi78239]

Patty eaten too many Patty melts or some shit like that

[Rito3d30]

Did Mills changes his shooting form?
Seems different, not helping though

[TimDunkem]

Typical Fatty. Hits meaningless threes, then goes cold when it's time to get clutch.

[Spurtacular]

Mills doesn't know how to not step on a line (or make a three).

[bklynspursfan]

Aldridge shouldn't be taking anything above the FT line . He gets such good position when he uses his size.

[Robz4000]

This one's done. Fatty missing two wide open threes on the same possession is unforgiveable.

[cd98]

Patty flop

[Bill_Brasky]

Well i guess this is what you'd expect in crunch time with no Kawhi/Tony/Ginobili.

Wish LMA coulda bailed us out but you can only go to that well so many times.

[TheGreatYacht]

Wtf, some bald headed assistant called a timeout for Dwayne Casey and started clapping for their players :lmao I've never seen that

[sasaint]

ok this is raptor ref...

btw Kyle would have been better off puttin up one of his jump hooks than giving Patty 2 wide open 3s

Disagree. 50Mills was WIDE open.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs first half schedule was dragging them to 50 wins. Now the games are aboutto begin.

Those games didn't win themselves.

[Spurtacular]

Raptor-ref not calling the push-off on that offensive rebound after the missed charge call.

[TheGreatYacht]

Wwwwaaaannnaaaa beeee yooouuurrrr heeeerrrooooo baaaabbbbyyyy

[cd98]

Get the ball to Patty!!!!

[bklynspursfan]

3rd quarter they went a really quick run. Doubt they have that magic left but we'll see. Missed FTs don't help :bang

[Mikeanaro]

Gasong is so damn passive, you cant expect nothing from him.

[$pursDynasty]

Man ST would roast MVParker if he went all Hero like Peppermint has tonight

[Spurtacular]

Patty pushing up threes like a 4th grader.

[Splits]

Microwave single handedly losing this game.

Where is HOTS, Pop?

[Chris]

Raptor-ref not calling the push-off on that offensive rebound after the missed charge call.

#41 looks like a hold-over from the Stern era. Drain the swamp! :lol

[TimDunkem]

LMA wishes he had the kind of touch Valanciunas has around the basket.

[cd98]

Pop put Murray in so we’d hope Patty is the shooter.

[Hoops Czar]

Keep shooting KobeMA

[TimDunkem]

Man ST would roast MVParker if he went all Hero like Peppermint has tonight

He already tried. That's why Pop surprisingly glued his ass to the bench this half. :lol

[bklynspursfan]

Pau had a 3 didn't take it, then they missed a foul on that 3 for Patty. Looked like there was definitely contact

[TheGreatYacht]

4th quarter Fatty Mills compilation please, anybody :lmao

[SAGirl]

Pop needed to get thrown out...

[Bill_Brasky]

Mills is such trash tonight.........

[davi78239]

We suck

[cd98]

Can’t believe Patty missed a fade away 3 with hand in face.

[SAGirl]

Pau had a 3 didn't take it, then they missed a foul on that 3 for Patty. Looked like there was definitely contact
they affected his follow through for sure... they haven't gotten the benefit of any calls in a close game... Pop needed to throw a tantrum.

[Chris]

Fathead with the ole' defense gg

[phxspurfan]

Raps cover the spread!

[TheGreatYacht]

"No pressure to perform."

[Darius Bieber]

god this team is trash

[Bill_Brasky]

Pau had a 3 didn't take it, then they missed a foul on that 3 for Patty. Looked like there was definitely contact

True.

[sasaint]

Patty pushing up threes like a 4th grader.

Bryn has been glued to the bench since he hit the corner 3 in deference to 50Mills.

[phxspurfan]

Our offense: throw the ball to LaMarcus and stand around

[Spurtacular]

This one's done. Fatty missing two wide open threes on the same possession is unforgiveable.

Lowry can make javelin runners from 17, but Patty just fucking throwing up garbage.

[bbarry]

god this team is trash

on the road.

[$pursDynasty]

Mills is such trash tonight.........
But thinks he is on fire

[AFMadison]

People wanna blame players but don’t understand it’s the shitty offense.

[Mal]

My god, Mills is so bad

[AFMadison]

Our offense: throw the ball to LaMarcus and stand around
This man is woke

[TimDunkem]

Lowry can make javelin runners from 17, but Patty just fucking throwing up garbage.

Well, Lowry has skill. Mills is a just a glorified chucker.

[sasaint]

Pop needed to get thrown out...

Yep. Good take!

[cd98]

Sean doing his best to spin this loss.

[SAGirl]

Fathead with the ole' defense gg
He can defend for sure... he's not going to be scoring much but is valuable in the right setting.

A team that cannot score and is asking him to post SErge ... well that is going to be tough.. but he competed. At least did what he could.

team needs a trade for a guard that can score... as erratic as Murray is they were better with him than Tony bc Murray at least defends too and plays with energy... If they had Kemba they win this game.

[Robz4000]

People wanna blame players but don’t understand it’s the shitty offense.

Pop deserves a lot of the blame too. This offensive system is an abortion on top of the terrible personnel.

[sasaint]

Pau had a 3 didn't take it, then they missed a foul on that 3 for Patty. Looked like there was definitely contact

Never showed a replay of the no-call on Patty's 3. I thought he was legit fouled.

[Chris]

He can defend for sure... he's not going to be scoring much but is valuable in the right setting.

A team that cannot score and is asking him to post SErge ... well that is going to be tough.. but he competed. At least did what he could.

team needs a trade for a guard that can score... as erratic as Murray is they were better with him than Tony bc Murray at least defends too and plays with energy... If they had Kemba they win this game.

He's looked gassed the entire second half. He passed up a few wide open layups, but not terrible tonight imo.

[TimDunkem]

People wanna blame players but don’t understand it’s the shitty offense.

:lol Antiquated post-up offense

:lol Isn't as effective as a real low-post game because our post player is shooting turnaround fadeaway jumpers

[bklynspursfan]

Why the heck is Pau hesitating on those man. He's had 2 open looks

[TheGreatYacht]

You need a 3 and you have Fathead, Mills, and Murray out there :lmao

[Chris]

Pau passes up wide open 3's in 2k as well.

[Hoops Czar]

Pau had a 3 didn't take it, then they missed a foul on that 3 for Patty. Looked like there was definitely contact

http://gph.is/2mRYfGI

[davi78239]

Is it time for Pop to go?

[Spurtacular]

Cover the +5.5.

[Silver&Black]

4th quarter Fatty Mills compilation please, anybody :lmao

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[AFMadison]

:lol Antiquated post-up offense

:lol Isn't as effective as a real low-post game because our post player is shooting turnaround fadeaway jumpers
Literally a soft post up team.

[Bill_Brasky]

People wanna blame players but don’t understand it’s the shitty offense.

Are you fucking kidding me? Missing Kawhi, Parker, Gino, Gay.......4 huge pieces. STFU.

[phxspurfan]

Raps lose by 30 in Minny. They treated this like game 7 of the finals

[AFMadison]

Pop deserves a lot of the blame too. This offensive system is an abortion on top of the terrible personnel.
That’s what I’m talking about.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://media.giphy.com/media/8AsDKgzfouxJC/giphy.gif
:lmao

[sasaint]

You need a 3 and you have Fathead, Mills, and Murray out there :lmao

No Danny or Bryn to close. Pop had money on the Raps.

[phxspurfan]

Lol Scola still in the NBA

[Hoops Czar]

Are you fucking kidding me? Missing Kawhi, Parker, Gino, Gay.......4 huge pieces. STFU.
Parker played

[Mikeanaro]

SA plays are so predictable, nobody wants to risk anything and those excessive passes leads them to infinite turnovers.
Change the fucking offensive to fit the tools you already have, its embarrassing.

[Robz4000]

Spurs are gonna get raped their next three games. They beat the Kings but other than that they look poised to lose 7 of their next 8.

[Bill_Brasky]

Parker played

Not in the 4th quarter.

[cd98]

Hmmm

[Spurtacular]

Bert needs a 3 here.

[TheGreatYacht]

For the millionth time......

Whatever Fatty Mills does, Forbes does it better

[phxspurfan]

Raps don't cover.

[bklynspursfan]

Dam.. can't believe he missed both

[Chris]

well that was anti-climactic :lol

[bklynspursfan]

http://gph.is/2mRYfGI

Yea , that's why it's called a gamble lol. I've won much more than I've lost.

[TimDunkem]

Are you fucking kidding me? Missing Kawhi, Parker, Gino, Gay.......4 huge pieces. STFU.

A healthy team is still a paper tiger. This inefficient offense will not win a title unless the GSW plane crashes.

[Spurtacular]

Happy I won my bet; but f*ck get a good final shot off.

[phxspurfan]

Not bad for Los Spurs TBH. Depleted squad on the last game of a roadie with LMA and all role players staying with the 2nd best team in the East. I'd say they would have beat the LeBron's but not the Celtics tonite with the same effort.

[phxspurfan]

Happy I won my bet; but f*ck get a good final shot off.

He's basically still a rookie. Maybe with more PT he will learn to split that double team and find a guy

[Hoops Czar]

A healthy team is still a paper tiger. This inefficient offense will not win a title unless the GSW plane crashes.
They'd need 5-6 different planes to crash.

[ElNono]

get well soon, Manu

[TheGreatYacht]

get well soon, Manu
Yup.... mophead is out here chucking up 14 times without him

[SAGirl]

Bryn has been glued to the bench since he hit the corner 3 in deference to 50Mills.
absolutely ... I thought Brynsanity was playing scared though... passing the ball around too much with nothing to show for himself or others.. however 50Mills stunk it...

[TheGreatYacht]

Forbes with 10 points on 3 shots, +6

Fatty House with 13 points on 14 shots, -5

[SAGirl]

get well soon, Manu
no.. Manu needs to rest more.. get himself well. stay with Marianela at home, take the kids to school, expose Patty for what he is without Manu around. If they are going to make a trade they need to see what they really have... If Manu is retiring next summer, I want Pop to have sufficient video of Patty without Manu.

[sasaint]

absolutely ... I thought Brynsanity was playing scared though... passing the ball around too much with nothing to show for himself or others.. however 50Mills stunk it...

I saw your original comment about Bryn's being timid. Almost simultaneously it seemed Bryn came to life. After your comment he definitely played better. Then he got in for the final minute...

We desperately need to dump 50Mills.

[SAGirl]

Never showed a replay of the no-call on Patty's 3. I thought he was legit fouled.
me too.. on the other end Raptors were getting touch fouls...

[SAGirl]

Pop deserves a lot of the blame too. This offensive system is an abortion on top of the terrible personnel.
I thought he should have run some different plays to spring Davis and Bryn open...
I don't know if they simply don't execute well. Davis wasn't exactly on, but they needed some help other than LMA who looked exhausted and whose shot wasn't falling.

[Snaq O'Meal]

no.. Manu needs to rest more.. get himself well. stay with Marianela at home, take the kids to school, expose Patty for what he is without Manu around. If they are going to make a trade they need to see what they really have... If Manu is retiring next summer, I want Pop to have sufficient video of Patty without Manu.

That’ll make Fatty Meals even more untradeable. GMs around the league are still LOLing their asses off at that 12:01 50Mills deal.

[bklynspursfan]

Silver lining, our defense was pretty darn good tonight. We had 2 (3 if you count Joff 1/1) guys shoot 50% or better from the field (Pau 6/11 and Forbes 3/3)

5/20 from 3 as a team , and 34% shooting overall and lost by 3.

[$pursDynasty]

https://media.giphy.com/media/8AsDKgzfouxJC/giphy.gif
Lol Mr Mill's

[SAGirl]

No Danny or Bryn to close. Pop had money on the Raps.
wow I only just looked at the boxscore. Bryn was perfect shooting tonight...definitely should have played more at the end.

[Spurtacular]

No NBA games thread; so, I'll just say Miami not closing out Nets f*cks me. That was my largest bet and would've put me at close to even with the Knicks and tomorrow's football still left to go.

[BatManu20]

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[sasaint]

wow I only just looked at the boxscore. Bryn was perfect shooting tonight...definitely should have played more at the end.

Danny needed to be in, too. He played well; just got screwed on 3 of his shots.

[SAGirl]

954080417585352704
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old news?

[SAGirl]

Danny needed to be in, too. He played well; just got screwed on 3 of his shots.
Are you thinking Pop in reactionary mode?
I am not sure what's going on.

[BatManu20]

?
old news?

Too quick. Fixed it immediately.

[NASpurs]

954544376868474880

And getting a lottery pick as a consolation prize while the Spurs are getting bounced in the first round with a shitty late first rounder.

[BatManu20]

Spurs haven't won 2 games in a row in over 3 weeks... Woof.

[sasaint]

Are you thinking Pop in reactionary mode?
I am not sure what's going on.

No idea. With some other team I might think the coach was giving guys an opportunity/look to evaluate them for a deadline deal. But I will be surprised if the Spurs make any moves. I just think we are at the threshold of an era of mediocrity/irrelevance until PATFO and Patty are gone.

[sasaint]

And getting a lottery pick as a consolation prize while the Spurs are getting bounced in the first round with a shitty late first rounder.

Yep.

[SAGirl]

No idea. With some other team I might think the coach was giving guys an opportunity/look to evaluate them for a deadline deal. But I will be surprised if the Spurs make any moves. I just think we are at the threshold of an era of mediocrity/irrelevance until PATFO and Patty are gone.

That is sad, but it seems Patty has taken what used to be Tony's role as the beloved.

Tony getting benched in this game cannot be ignored. It means something in terms of Tony's standing. He is very close to losing his starting spot if only Dejounte was just a little bit better, unfortunately he's still so undeveloped. However, the faith in Patty is still 100%.

[BatManu20]

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[bklynspursfan]

That is sad, but it seems Patty has taken what used to be Tony's role as the beloved.

Tony getting benched in this game cannot be ignored. It means something in terms of Tony's standing. He is very close to losing his starting spot if only Dejounte was just a little bit better, unfortunately he's still so undeveloped. However, the faith in Patty is still 100%.

Tony hasn't closed a lot of games this season thus far. Doubt he's close to losing his starting spot tho, more likely if he's struggling, he just won't finish close games. He still makes the most sense for our starters at this point

[LakerHater]

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[SAGirl]

Tony hasn't closed a lot of games this season thus far. Doubt he's close to losing his starting spot tho, more likely if he's struggling, he just won't finish close games. He still makes the most sense for our starters at this point
I definitely think if Dejounte was a little bit better, steadier he would and should be starting. As it is, no... but neither is good enough.

[BatManu20]

Spurs next 10 games...


Pacers
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@ Phoenix
@ Golden State



PHX is the first game of the RRT.

[SAGirl]

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It's too bad they lost that game... I am still upset about it bc they were terrific defensively tonight. Kyle has grown as a player defensively. Team's scoring was terrible though. If Tony or Patty shot better they could have won this. /sigh

[LakerHater]

Spurs next 10 games...


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Sixers
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PHX is the first game of the RRT.
3-7

[YGWHI]

He had a nice run in the 3rd quarter...But if only the guy who took 25 shots would have made more than 6...

[bklynspursfan]

I definitely think if Dejounte was a little bit better, steadier he would and should be starting. As it is, no... but neither is good enough.

Yea I think Murray had a shot to take it, but he hasn't capitalized. As it stands, they all do different things well.

I just want our guys healthy. It's been such a crappy season in that respect

[bklynspursfan]

Spurs next 10 games...


Pacers
Cavs
@ Memphis
Sixers
Kings
Nuggets
Rockets
Utah
@ Phoenix
@ Golden State



PHX is the first game of the RRT.

7-3

[SAGirl]

He had a nice run in the 3rd quarter...But if only the guy who took 25 shots would have made more than 6...
+1

To be fair to him, I thought he was tired, they played him very physical and there were times no one else had it going... to go against that though... he could always make life easier for his teammates if he passes the ball. He was kind of a black hole tonight... hate to criticize him bc he has carried this team so far... and has a real tough job being a leader without that much support since Tony and Patty shot terrible and there were many youngins with him there... He could always get teammates involved better, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

+1

To be fair to him, I thought he was tired, they played him very physical and there were times no one else had it going... to go against that though... he could always make life easier for his teammates if he passes the ball. He was kind of a black hole tonight... hate to criticize him bc he has carried this team so far... and has a real tough job being a leader without that much support since Tony and Patty shot terrible and there were many youngins with him there... He could always get teammates involved better, tbh.

Everyone shot poorly. Only Pau and Bertans shot over 50%. Joff was 1/1 but that don't count. Green, Murray , etc... It was everyone collectively who couldn't hit squat. And they had some that were in and out, Patty and Danny.

[SAGirl]

Everyone shot poorly. Only Pau and Bertans shot over 50%. Joff was 1/1 but that don't count. Green, Murray , etc... It was everyone collectively who couldn't hit squat. And they had some that were in and out, Patty and Danny.
There were very few really easy shots. Lamarcus didn't pass when he drew doubles or triple teams. Some of Murray's baskets were really easy... one was a cut from a Pau pass. Lamarcus needs to create for his teammates... use his gravity. Davis and Bryn didn't get enough shots.

[SAGirl]

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[DAF86]

Our point guard play is fucking pathetic.

[SAGirl]

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[QUOTE=BatManu20;9256384]Spurs next 10 games...


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Sixers
Kings
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Rockets
Utah
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@ Golden State

I am going with 2 - 8

[BillMc]

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PHX is the first game of the RRT.
6-4

[DenialTwist]

Backcourt scoring and defense is bad. Pop loves the Parker/Mills/Forbes lineup and it's just not working. Can't defend, streaky scoring. Only 2 of the 3 should be on the court at the same time. Bertans should have come in earlier but instead Pop put him in for Pau when there was 9 seconds left. Makes no sense at all. At this point for formality's sake Parker is just a figurehead starter. Let DJM be the full fledged starter! TP looks like he is 60 y.o on the court. Aldridge just had a bad shooting night, what can you do?

[Fireball]

agree with pop as I am proud too after this game ... LMA continues to work hard, but last night he was not rewarded the rim ... losing so many games sucks

[tenbeersbold]

Starters shot what 28% ish...not gonna win many games,hell I'm amazed it was close given the Spurs threw up a clunkfest

[tbdog]

To be fair, many just wouldn't go down.

[daledondale]

Spurs next 10 games...


Pacers
Cavs
@ Memphis
Sixers
Kings
Nuggets
Rockets
Utah
@ Phoenix
@ Golden State



PHX is the first game of the RRT.

3-7

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[boutons_deux]

Just another game of many where the Spurs can't score, shooting under 40% for most or all of the game. At one point, 28%.

[tenbeersbold]

Well the lack of super 3 pt shooting(36% or higher) will doom the Spurs against the only teams that matter.
Sorry but to beat GS and HOU yer gonna need 2 guys that can hit the 3 ptr at around 40% to keep up on most nights

[boutons_deux]

Well the lack of super 3 pt shooting(36% or higher) will doom the Spurs against the only teams that matter.
Sorry but to beat GS and HOU yer gonna need 2 guys that can hit the 3 ptr at around 40% to keep up on most nights

Spurs don't have 2 pt shooters. And how many shots under 3 feet do LMA and Pau miss, EVERY GAME?

[Dex]

To be fair, many just wouldn't go down.

Yeah, I can't remember the last time I saw so many shots bounce around the rim or swirl out. Just couldn't take the lid off.

I liked the teams effort. If they play that way against teams under .500, we will start winning a lot more of those games.

[HarlemHeat37]

Well the lack of super 3 pt shooting(36% or higher) will doom the Spurs against the only teams that matter.
Sorry but to beat GS and HOU yer gonna need 2 guys that can hit the 3 ptr at around 40% to keep up on most nights

Spurs have 3 guys shooting near 40% or higher from 3(Green, Bertans and Forbes) at high volume(so, excluding Pau) and Mills isn't that far off IIRC..the problem isn't the number of players, it's the type of player(Bertans and Forbes are situational pieces) and the volume at the top of the food chain IMO..

Ultimately, it's an issue that the highest volume players for the Spurs(outside of Kawhi) take naturally inefficient shots(Aldridge, Gay, Parker), while the Warriors and Rockets' high-volume players are all elite 3-point shooters..

[HarlemHeat37]

Entertaining game, though..the only other game I attended this season was the Warriors, and this was the complete opposite of that matchup:lol

The amount of shots the Spurs had rim out was scary, tbh..

[Robz4000]

Entertaining game, though..the only other game I attended this season was the Warriors, and this was the complete opposite of that matchup:lol

The amount of shots the Spurs had rim out was scary, tbh..

That's been the trend all season, and it's a sign that the offense has no rhythm.