Did you know...

[RGMCSE]

Hey guys, how about something new. Post a casual little interesting fact about anything that someone might not know.

My example is, I started down the youtube rabbit hole and found out that a very popular singer song writer Christopher Cross is from San Antonio and is best known for the following:


7khQNR7s1Ho

[Avante]

When the NFL and AFL merged, the AFL were given....Cleveland Browns, Baltimore Colts, Pittsburgh Steelers, which helped form the AFC.

The Oakland Raiders came this close to being called....The Oakland Senors

From 1901 to 1905 Michigan football went 57-1, they scored over 2000 points giving up...36, they scored over 100 points in four games and pitched 50 shut outs. The very last game of 1905 they finally lost....Chicago 2 Michigan 0

All black Bedford County HS in Tennessee, won 78 games in a row from 42-49. But the most amazing thing about this streak was this,......from 42 to 44 no opponet crossed the fifty yard line on them. That does seem impossible, but....true.

The Dallas Cowboys came this close to being called....The Dallas Rangers.

The New York Jets started out as....The Titans

The first...Cowboys....in the NFL were....The Kansas City Cowboys.

Terry Bradshaw was a national caliber javelin thrower while at La Tech

The first black to rush for a 1000 yards in the NFL...Niner Joe "The Jet" Perry, he was also the first to have consecutive 1000 yard seasons, and still the only Hall of Famer with just a JC education....Compton.

Hall of Fame WR Lynn Swann twice won the Cali State long jump title. He was out of Serra, as was Tom Brady.

When The Beatles first landed here in the USA a reporter stuck a mic in John Lennon's face and asked.....

So, now that you are finally here, what's the first thing you want to do?

Lennon....meet Muddy Waters.

The first record that earned the title....Gold Record.....Chattanooga Choo Choo, 1941 Glen Miller and His Orchestra

The first blues record.....Crazy Blues...Mamie Smith 1920

The former slave who became king....Henri Christophe, Haiti.

The Rolling Stones got their name from a 1951 Muddy Waters record.

The former slave who ended up in Europe fighting for the world title....Tom Molineaux (name of his former owner)

The first sprinter to to be called...THE WORLDS FASTEST HUMAN...Howard Drew, back around 1914, he was also the first black to hold the 100 yard WR...9.6.

Temple sprinter Eulace Peacock owned Jesse Owens in the 100, he once beat him five races in a row. But in 1936 at the Penn Relays he pulled a muscle and was unable to compete at our Olympic trials, so...................................

The amazing Gale Sayers had an older bro named Roger who was faster than he was. Roger beating the great Bob Hayes at 100 yards.

Walter Payton had an NFL playing bro....Eddie...a Lion.

The first time Muddy Waters ever recorded was right there on his front porch at the Stovall Plantation, 1941. A must listen.

Panther RB Christian McCaffreys grandpa Dave Sime (Oly silver 1960) is still considered one of the top three/four greatest white American sprinters ever.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpusAWku-mw


Sime is the last white American to win an Olympic 100m medal. And in that race we had future NFLers Frank Budd Eagles and Ray Norton Niners. All three Americans had held the 100 yrd WR. As we saw Lyle Lovett the starter. (I better say...kidding)

This is where Elvis got his very first recording. He also covered a Lonnie Johnson (legendary guitarist) tune and fellow Sun artist Junior Parker tune.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHQUvCkV20


All the above off the top of my head, here I couldn't remember (yes it is possible but rare) the date, so......


In 1890 George W. Johnson became the first African American to record commercially. A common story is that Johnson, a former slave, was discovered singing on the streets of Washington, D.C., by Berliner recording agent Fred Gaisberg. Gaisberg himself perpetrated this myth along with the falsehood that Johnson was later hanged for murdering his wife******

According to historian Tim Brooks, Johnson was a familiar figure in New York City's Hell's Kitchen and made his first commercial recordings in the spring of 1890 for the Metropolitan and New Jersey Phonograph companies. Previously, Johnson had also made tin foil exhibition recordings. Later in 1890, a group called The Unique Quartette followed Johnson into the recording studio. The Unique Quartette recorded again in 1893, and one of their titles, "Mama's Black Baby Boy" survives in stunning fidelity.


****** bluesman Pat Hare only had one real success, his...."Going to Murder My Baby".....well he'd end up in prison, yep.....he murdered his baby.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26dBq-98Po


He recorded for Sun Records which gave us the first Elvis, Howlin' Wolf, Roy Orbison, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis recordings.


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Off topic

I own a book by Julius Lester....To Be A Slave. Here we find letters written by the slaves, yes some could read and write. Obviously a must read.

When I find something that interests me the first thing I do is rush back to it's origins, the beginnings and work my way back. I must have it all, ya could call it a phobia. I do get a big grin when I read......ya Googled that.......which is actually....nobody can just know all that.:king

[DJR210]

Thread ruined in post 2... god fucking damnit

[Avante]

Thread ruined in post 2... god fucking damnit


Dude, I'm the one on topic, you're the one ruining things. I'd hate to see you deal with any REAL problem if a post on a message board ...ruins....things for you.

Hell, why not learn a few things, ya reckon?

This will be my last post in this thread, I get the power I weld.

See ya~~~

[DJR210]

This will be my last post in this thread

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[SpursforSix]

Watched this documentary called, "Hired Guns". It was about session musicians and how they often get no credit. Anyway, I was surprised to learn that it was actually Derek St. Holmes that sang Nugent's song, Stranglehold. Holmes was a guitar player in the band. He got no credit for one of Ted's biggest hits.

[RGMCSE]

Thread ruined in post 2... god fucking damnit

I knew it was gonna happen.

But fuck it heres another one. I never paid close attention to the lyrics to the Pina colada song. Turns out to be old school Snap chat, Insta, Kik etc, hookup song.


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[UZER]

Watched this documentary called, "Hired Guns". It was about session musicians and how they often get no credit. Anyway, I was surprised to learn that it was actually Derek St. Holmes that sang Nugent's song, Stranglehold. Holmes was a guitar player in the band. He got no credit for one of Ted's biggest hits.

See that one. The Toto part surprised me.

[Fabbs]

Watched this documentary called, "Hired Guns". It was about session musicians and how they often get no credit. Anyway, I was surprised to learn that it was actually Derek St. Holmes that sang Nugent's song, Stranglehold. Holmes was a guitar player in the band. He got no credit for one of Ted's biggest hits.
Nugents an insecure bitch.
Next album he made absolutey sure he himself was featured and pushed St. Holmes into the background.
Per jealous Ted Dipshit "there can only be one alpha male".

Talented retard that he is, I think one of Teds bio relatives may have been an animal.

[Spurtacular]

Hey guys, how about something new. Post a casual little interesting fact about anything that someone might not know.

My example is, I started down the youtube rabbit hole and found out that a very popular singer song writer Christopher Cross is from San Antonio and is best known for the following:

7khQNR7s1Ho

Never heard of him, tbh.

[RGMCSE]

Never heard of him, tbh.

I should’ve said at one time he had some well known songs.

[Spurtacular]

I should’ve said at one time he had some well known songs.

Just bustin' your chops, bro.

[Avante]

Since this thread didn't take off like I expected, I'll juice it up a little.

Did you know....

Boxing bouts over 100 rounds?

George "Little Chocolate" Dixon had over 800 boxing matchs?

"Nature Boy" Ric Flair got his character from "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers the very first WWWF world champion. He won a tournament beating Antonio Rocca (nope, total bullshit)

Wilt Chamberlain was at a party, when Jim Brown showed up. One thing led to another, so they ended up in a race (forget the distance) Wilt won. Well Brown wasn't convinced so they did it again.....Wilt wins again.

Buford Pusser the real sheriff in those 'Walking Tall" movies was a one time pro rassler.

Former Cal sprinter/NY Jets receiver Wesley Walker was blind in one eye.

Herschel Walker vs Bo Jackson at the SEC Indoor Champs 60....hmmm?

[Avante]

Not a good topic "here" where it's....seen any good movies?

One of the great reads however...

The Silent Movies

[Chucho]

Did you know Avante is a child-molesting racist?

[Avante]

Did you know Avante is a child-molesting racist?

Yep, a racist, I do get we have the different races for a reason.

There is nothing anywhere that backs up your child molesting claim, so why the lie?

If you read my take on that sick shit then ya know my stance is.....ya shoot sick ass pedos. So why just make shit up?

[Chucho]

Yep, a racist, I do get we have the different races for a reason.

There is nothing anywhere that backs up your child molesting claim, so why the lie?

If you read my take on that sick shit then ya know my stance is.....ya shoot sick ass pedos. So why just make shit up?


You're a liar. You molest kids, hate beaners and coloreds and don't know shit about track and field.

[Avante]

You're a liar. You molest kids, hate beaners and coloreds and don't know shit about track and field.

I talked about my take on shit ass pedos already here, you can't read?

If you lived in central Cali you'd hate beaners also, fuckers are a mess.

I'm a HUGE fan of the black man, hell, wish I was black.

There is nobody anywhere on my level when it comes to the who, what, where and when in track and field.
Don't give a fuck about the technical aspects of it anymore than you do. Shit is boring as fuck.

So what is wrong down here?



World Records



(• - Record was ratified)



•

9.9*

Steve Williams (http://javascript<strong></strong>:CheckID(7242,'M','MA1'))

USA

Los Angeles

Jun 21, 1972



•

9.9*

Reggie Robinson (http://javascript<strong></strong>:CheckID(5643,'M','MA1'))

USA

Eugene

Jul 01, 1972



•

9.9*

Eddie Hart (http://javascript<strong></strong>:CheckID(2558,'M','MA1'))

USA

Eugene

Jul 01, 1972

[Avante]

Watch this....

1.This sprinter ran 4 WR;s in the 100 from Mar11 to May 5....who?

That will get some bullshit but I will never get the answer, hahahaha~~~~~~~

Funny how people freak out knowing they are n with the real deal and can't handle it, hahahaha~~~~~~

Who was the fastest player to ever play for the Seahawks, cat was an Olympian?

I do have my fun.

Little people Track & Field News mag since 1966, ok?

[Chucho]

I talked about my take on shit ass pedos already here, you can't read?

If you lived in central Cali you'd hate beaners also, fuckers are a mess.

I'm a HUGE fan of the black man, hell, wish I was black.

There is nobody anywhere on my level when it comes to the who, what, where and when in track and field.

So what is wrong down here?

I live in Central California. I live in Oakdale to get away from the Valley trash as much as possible. Have built a marketing firm here in this cesspool. I don't see beaners as this plague as you do.

And yeah, most inadequate whites want to be black, or at least in the pants. Typical

Still, you're a liar. You're a kid touching rapist who was a failure at everything and a racist to top it off.

[Avante]

I live in Central California. I live in Oakdale to get away from the Valley trash as much as possible. Have built a marketing firm here in this cesspool. I don't see beaners as this plague as you do.

And yeah, most inadequate whites want to be black, or at least in the pants. Typical

Still, you're a liar. You're a kid touching rapist who was a failure at everything and a racist to top it off.

I don' believe any of that at all, noway a dummy like you could even build a sand castlle, so why the lie?

It is the valley trash stupid, that I;m talking about.

Only a total moron like yourself wouldn't get my take on blacks.

I would chop a fuckers hand clean off if he touched a kid, as I have said numerous times, dude, you might be a sick ass pedo, I;m not, ok stupid?

Fucking sick ass pedo.

[Chucho]

I don' believe any of that at all, noway a dummy like you could even build a sand castlle, so why the lie?

It is the valley trash stupid, that I;m talking about.

Only a total moron like yourself wouldn't get my take on blacks.

I would chop a fuckers hand clean off if he touched a kid, as I have said numerous times, dude, you might be a sick ass pedo, I;m not, ok stupid?

Fucking sick ass pedo.


I really don't care what you believe about me, you're the liar.

[Avante]

I really don't care what you believe about me, you're the liar.

Prove it guy.

And, why do simply ignore my stance on sick ass pedos? Dude, show me where you are getting anything other than me......shoot the sick fucks. Where is that at?

[Chucho]

Prove it guy?

No?

[Avante]

No?

So why the lies?

[Chucho]

So why the lies?

You tell me, you're the liar.

[Mitch]

I talked about my take on shit ass pedos already here, you can't read?

If you lived in central Cali you'd hate beaners also, fuckers are a mess.

I'm a HUGE fan of the black man, hell, wish I was black.

There is nobody anywhere on my level when it comes to the who, what, where and when in track and field.
Don't give a fuck about the technical aspects of it anymore than you do. Shit is boring as fuck.

So what is wrong down here?



World Records


(• - Record was ratified)


•
9.9*
Steve Williams (http://javascript<strong></strong>:CheckID(7242,'M','MA1'))
USA
Los Angeles
Jun 21, 1972


•
9.9*
Reggie Robinson (http://javascript<strong></strong>:CheckID(5643,'M','MA1'))
USA
Eugene
Jul 01, 1972


•
9.9*
Eddie Hart (http://javascript<strong></strong>:CheckID(2558,'M','MA1'))
USA
Eugene
Jul 01, 1972




How do you think Owens would stack up if he raced on a modern track, Avante? Read an article saying he'd probably be within a tenth of Bolt given the differences in wasted energy from the track of Owen's time compared to now.

[Avante]

How do you think Owens would stack up if he raced on a modern track, Avante? Read an article saying he'd probably be within a tenth of Bolt given the differences in wasted energy from the track of Owen's time compared to now.

The thing with Owens is the story. The black boy from Alabama in Hitlers Germany, beating up on his Supermen. In reality Owens was a far better long jumper than he was a sprinter, he lost a lot in the sprints. Four times he ran in our USA Nationals in the 100m, he only won once.

Maquettes Ralph Metcalfe and Temples Eulace Peacock beat Owens a ton of times in the 100. Peacock once beat Owens five races in a row.

Owens ran a 10.2 on bad dirt tracks, he also ran a 9.4 for yards. Bob Hayes also ran on dirt tracks in the 60's, he ran a 10.06/9.1. With his 5-11 190 pounds he is the guy who would be able to compete today, not Jesse Owens. Ah....other than the long jump.

I could see Owens running a 10.05ish with todays training, ete etc etc. Nothing remotely close to a 9.60, which is where Bolt lived.

As you can see he was not dominate.

USA Nationals






1936



F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL



1

Jesse Owens

10.4

=MR




2

Ralph Metcalfe

10.6e





3

Samuel Stoller






4

Foy Draper






5

Marty Glickman






6

Ben Johnson






1935



F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL; W: +7.8 mph



1

Eulace Peacock

10.2w





2

Ralph Metcalfe

10.3ew





3

Jesse Owens

10.3ew





4

George Anderson

10.4ew





5

Foy Draper






6

Milton Holt






Heat 2: Peacock 10.2w.



1934



F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 30 JUN



1

Ralph Metcalfe

10.4

MR




2

Jesse Owens

10.4e





3

Eulace Peacock






4

Charles Parsons






5

Louis Salvato






6

Ralph Sickel






1933



F: 100 meters; S/F: 7/7; D: 30 JUN



1

Ralph Metcalfe

10.5

MR




2

James Johnson






3

Jesse Owens






4

Paul Starr






5

Hudson Hellmich






6

Don Bennett



Peacock pulled a muscle in 1936, if he'd ran in Berlin, hmmmmm?


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/07/sports/olympics/eulace-peacock-forgotten-rival-of-jesse-owens.html

When a sprinter runs both the 100 and 200 ya can tell a lot about him by his 200 times. Bolt was amazing at 200m running a stunning WR.....19.19, Owens never broke 20.7, that is a mile in a 200m.

Works like this....

100m PR 9.58 times two...19.16

100m PR 10.2 times two....20.4

[Mitch]

The thing with Owens is the story. The black boy from Alabama in Hitlers Germany, beating up on his Supermen. In reality Owens was a far better long jumper than he was a sprinter, he lost a lot in the sprints. Four times he ran in our USA Nationals in the 100m, he only won once.

Maquettes Ralph Metcalfe and Temples Eulace Peacock beat Owens a ton of times in the 100. Peacock once beat Owens five races in a row.

Owens ran a 10.2 on bad dirt tracks, he also ran a 9.4 for yards. Bob Hayes also ran on dirt tracks in the 60's, he ran a 10.06/9.1. With his 5-11 190 pounds he is the guy who would be able to compete today, not Jesse Owens. Ah....other than the long jump.

I could see Owens running a 10.05ish with todays training, ete etc etc. Nothing remotely close to a 9.60, which is where Bolt lived.

As you can see he was not dominate.

USA Nationals






1936


F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL


1
Jesse Owens
10.4
=MR



2
Ralph Metcalfe
10.6e




3
Samuel Stoller





4
Foy Draper





5
Marty Glickman





6
Ben Johnson





1935


F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 04 JUL; W: +7.8 mph


1
Eulace Peacock
10.2w




2
Ralph Metcalfe
10.3ew




3
Jesse Owens
10.3ew




4
George Anderson
10.4ew




5
Foy Draper





6
Milton Holt





Heat 2: Peacock 10.2w.


1934


F: 100 meters; S/F: 6/6; D: 30 JUN


1
Ralph Metcalfe
10.4
MR



2
Jesse Owens
10.4e




3
Eulace Peacock





4
Charles Parsons





5
Louis Salvato





6
Ralph Sickel





1933


F: 100 meters; S/F: 7/7; D: 30 JUN


1
Ralph Metcalfe
10.5
MR



2
James Johnson





3
Jesse Owens





4
Paul Starr





5
Hudson Hellmich





6
Don Bennett


Peacock pulled a muscle in 1936, if he'd ran in Berlin, hmmmmm?


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/07/sports/olympics/eulace-peacock-forgotten-rival-of-jesse-owens.html

When a sprinter runs both the 100 and 200 ya can tell a lot about him by his 200 times. Bolt was amazing at 200m running a stunning WR.....19.19, Owens never broke 20.7, that is a mile in a 200m.

Works like this....

100m PR 9.58 times two...19.16

100m PR 10.2 times two....20.4

Suppose we'll never know for sure, the article I read said the modern track as opposed to the ash track and the block could have gotten him under 10 because Owens wasted a lot of energy with the track of the day.

[Avante]

Why were they zeroing in on Jesse Owens? Like I mentioned he wasn't really all that in 100m.

Keep in mind we had few black sprinters in his day, and the few we did see beat Owens. With electro timing Owens was running around 10.45ish, that's a long long way from 9.99. And his 200m was weak.

[Mitch]

Why were they zeroing on on Jesse Owens? Likre I mentioned he wasn't really all that in 100m.

Keep in mind we had few black sprinters in his day, and the few we did see beat Owens. With electro timing Owens was running around 10.45ish, that's a long long way from 9.99. And his 200m was weak.

Probably because of his fame, they were more focused on how the evolution of the track has benefited athletes.

[Avante]

Probably because of his fame, they were more focused on how the evolution of the track has benefited athletes.

I see.

Well if Owens did run today he'd be running into his early 30's, he was just a kid in his day, So at 28ish with a nice plus 1.8 wind, on that Eugene track, maybe a 9.99 would be possible. But....he was never going to challenge Bolt under any circumstances.

Bolt started out as a 400/200 cat, so he spent years building his speed endurance. Now add that 6-5 stride, a deadly combo at 100m.

Look a his head, yep, smooth.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRkeahelZHM

Imagine looking over at old Adolph with a....."we got another one back home in Alabama faster than he is"

Jackie Robinson ( the baseball legend) older brother Mack won the silver behind Owens in the 200m.

[Avante]

Later today sprinter Christian Coleman MIGHT break the indoor 60WR at our USA Champs. He did run a 6.37 which is faster than the 6.39WR (Mo Greene) but ....something about something disallowed it.

Coleman was at Tennessee (NCAA Champion) last season when he twice beat the great Usain Bolt in the 100m.

[Avante]

Yep, new WR.....6.34. And this is the guy who ran a 4.12 40 for that record, and he is an x footballer.

So which of our experts can fill in the lanes for the All Time Tennessee 100m?

lane

1.Former NCAA champion
2.World class hurdler, NFLer
3.Olympic 100m champ
4.NCAA 100m record holder
5.Olympic 100m silver medalist
6.Held the 9.9 WR
7.Big white guy
8.Had a look from the Steelers, nope~~~

Have our experts ever answered a trivia question, yep.......nope~~~~

[Avante]

Ever notice no matter what questions I ask nobody can ever answer them despite....GOOGLE....?

Ok, it went like this....

lane

1.Terry Scott
2.Willie Gault
3.Justin Gatlin
4.Christian Coleman
5.Sam Graddy
6.Reggie Jones
7.Jeff Phillips
8.Leonard Scott

[Chucho]

More lies.

[Avante]

More lies.

Dude, why not actually.....prove....a lie, ok stupid? Go ahead do something other than show us how dumb ya are, ok?

So none of those sprinters were who I said they were?

[Chucho]

Dude, why not actually.....prove....a lie, ok stupid? Go ahead do something other than show us how dumb ya are, ok?

So none of those sprinters were who I said they were?

Lies.

[Avante]

Lies.

What's always funny with this freak is he's too damn stupid to see the troll.

[Avante]

Would ya believe some years ago some loggers way back in the mountains in Oregon caught a young big foot? They named ..it...Jocko. They but Jocko in some kind of cage, yep, it escaped.