Game Thread: Spurs vs Jazz - Sat. (2/3) - 8:00/C (4:00am Riga Time)

[weeks]

Rough loss but the refs were in our asses all night long

[SAGirl]

Fatty is just a POS, tbh.


God I hate Patty Mills. Never thought I would but here we are.

I'd hope that Pop is with you.

I think he's stuck in a hard place and he doesn't want to make the tough choices.

[Hoops Czar]

Manure was absolutely horrendous defensively tonight. Dumbfuck fouls and allowed a career to some Utah G-Leaguer

Waiting for ElNono to come into the forum after watching Manu suck balls all game to say... "Didn't catch the game. what did I miss?"

[SpurPadre]

please make a trade for crying out loud...

[r0drig0lac]

3rd in the west.

tbh tbh ..... spurstalk mantra

[BatManu20]

5 wins in a row for Utah and 6th of their last 7. Hottest team in the league tbh.



Still, our D was just too bad to overcome tonight. Can't win that way unless you have elite offensive talent. We don't, obviously.

[ElNono]

Waiting for ElNono to come into the forum after watching Manu suck balls all game to say... "Didn't catch the game. what did I miss?"

I caught the 4th quarter, only Spur that seemingly wanted to win, tbh...

[Killakobe81]

Well, on the plus side, the Cavs lost, so the Spurs would still have HCA against LeBron in the finals.

:lmao
Just regular season, but Tonight that seems as far fetched as me in a threesome with Missandei and Danerys from GOT...

[weeks]

Wasted a great hard-earned game from LMA too

[TimDunkem]

Team needs an fucking jumpstart. No one is expecting a season changing move but, damn, SOMETHING needs to change.

And, no, Kawhi coming back isn't the only move that should be made.

[Hoops Czar]

I caught the 4th quarter, only Spur that seemingly wanted to win, tbh...


Did you catch his Zaza impersonation?

[SAGirl]

Waiting for ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) to come into the forum after watching Manu suck balls all game to say... "Didn't catch the game. what did I miss?"
Manu was pretty bad agains the Rockets, but so was Mills, Bertans, Tony etc... other than Danny no one really stood out.. and some just TO the ball more and took more shots but missed than others pretty much.

Difficult to point the finger at the 40 year old.

Should point it to RC for standing pat and paying up old vets, broken down guys (Gay) and such.

[Spurtacular]

Well, on the plus side, the Cavs lost, so the Spurs would still have HCA against LeBron in the finals.

:lol Spurs ain't going to the Finals if Kawhai doesn't bother to play. Sh** I'm not sure if I spelled his name right, it's been so long.

[DPG21920]

No Mitchell for UTA and still giving up that many points to UTA at home when UTA was on a back to back. I mean that is truly astonishing

[ElNono]

Did you catch his Zaza impersonation?

when? I watched him go at Gobert like a madman, until Fatty happened...

[timtonymanu]

please make a trade for crying out loud...

Lol hard to when you’re showcasing guys like Brick Forbes, Bricktans, Slowmo and Fifty.

[ElNono]

Manu was pretty bad agains the Rockets, but so was Mills, Bertans, Tony etc... other than Danny no one really stood out.. and some just TO the ball more and took more shots but missed than others pretty much.

Difficult to point the finger at the 40 year old.

Should point it to RC for standing pat and paying up old vets, broken down guys (Gay) and such.

Meh, if Manu at this age looks like one of your best guys, you have problems...

[Chinook]

No Mitchell for UTA and still giving up that many points to UTA at home when UTA was on a back to back. I mean that is truly astonishing

The Spurs just couldn't stop fouling Utah. They literally doubled up SA in FTA, which is even more bonkers when you consider how many threes they made.

[TimDunkem]

Meh, if Manu at this age looks like one of your best guys, you have problems...

Thank you...

[SAGirl]

Meh, if Manu at this age looks like one of your best guys, you have problems...
for sure... that is my point, among others.

[BatManu20]

Nuggets beat the Warriors too.

[weeks]

LMAlpha with 31 points...Manu next highest scorer with fucking 13...
Aldridge doing everything he can to elevate this trash team and still getting ignored and derided by ST.

[NASpurs]

No Mitchell for UTA and still giving up that many points to UTA at home when UTA was on a back to back. I mean that is truly astonishing

And Utah got in at 5, 6 AM according to the Spurs announcers.

[BatManu20]

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[Hoops Czar]

when? I watched him go at Gobert like a madman, until Fatty happened...

I believe it was Joe Ingles at the 5:19 mark.

[Chinook]

LMAlpha with 31 points...Manu next highest scorer with fucking 13...
Aldridge doing everything he can to elevate this trash team and still getting ignored and derided by ST.

:cry not winning ball :cry

#NotMyPF

[BatManu20]

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[weeks]

:cry not winning ball :cry

#NotMyPF

save us lopez :cry

[Keepin' it real]

If you need a pick-me-up, don't forget Natalie Portman is hosting SNL.

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[ElNono]

I believe it was Joe Ingles at the 5:19 mark.

No foul, no harm

[Hoops Czar]

Manu was pretty bad agains the Rockets, but so was Mills, Bertans, Tony etc... other than Danny no one really stood out.. and some just TO the ball more and took more shots but missed than others pretty much.

Difficult to point the finger at the 40 year old.

Should point it to RC for standing pat and paying up old vets, broken down guys (Gay) and such.

Then, can I just blame Forbes for being born? He is beyond useless and has no business being on an NBA court. What an atrocity.

[SAGirl]

16th best offensive efficient rated team just put 120 points on the road on the 2nd best defense
it's not legit the 2nd best defense when Murray and Anderson, two of the best defenders together with Green in this depleted team only played 20 and 22 minutes and were benched in the 4th Q.

and by the way not agendaing (and don't care if it tickles ppl)... but if you had played muchkin lineups all season no way you have a 2nd best rated defense. sucks.

[SuperCam]

How many points did Mitchell and Gobert combine for? At least 50, right?

[SAGirl]

If you need a pick-me-up, don't forget Natalie Portman is hosting SNL.

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my favorite perfume I kid you not.

[DPG21920]

At some point does Pop not have to actually address why he keeps having to say the team is not playing a full focused game? Why aren’t they focused and why do they keep getting into holes and giving noticeable half-a** efforts until they try to turn it around.

How many post game interviews are we going to hear Pop say that the team only played a half of basketball.

[BatManu20]

LA's doing his part.


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[Keepin' it real]

my favorite perfume I kid you not.

:bobo

[TimDunkem]

my favorite perfume I kid you not.

Classy.

[weeks]

LA's doing his part.


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Team Alpha stepping up in Kawhi's absence, giving us a ton of quality minutes and working his ass off on both ends of the court.
I don't want to jinx anything, knock on wood, but Touches has been an iron man when it comes to injuries

[Chinook]

At some point does Pop not have to actually address why he keeps having to say the team is not playing a full focused game? Why aren’t they focused and why do they keep getting into holes and giving noticeable half-a** efforts until they try to turn it around.

How many post game interviews are we going to hear Pop say that the team only played a half of basketball.

Exactly. Something is wrong with the team. Pop's been flailing for weeks trying to figure it out. Makes me wonder (and this is completely baseless speculation) if the reason Kawhi "has concerns about the roster" is because LMA wasn't traded.

[Hoops Czar]

:cry not winning ball :cry

#NotMyPF

He put up his points and Spurs took the L. Tied for the worst +/- on the team.

[DPG21920]

Exactly. Something is wrong with the team. Pop's been flailing for weeks trying to figure it out. Makes me wonder (and this is completely baseless speculation) if the reason Kawhi "has concerns about the roster" is because LMA wasn't traded.

Who knows. He shouldn’t have THAT many concerns and seeing LMA play this way should make him happy. But SA will have to do something this deadline or Summer.

[Chinook]

He put up his points and Spurs took the L. Tied for the worst +/- on the team.

In large part because he played the most minutes in a losing effort. His season on-offs are significantly better than anyone but maybe Murray (who's pretty much breaking stats right now).

[weeks]

He put up his points and Spurs took the L. Tied for the worst +/- on the team.

:lol single-game +/-
:lol penalized by ST for consistently playing heavy minutes
:lol expecting those 31 points to come from anyone else on this trash roster
:lol most of his hard work getting good position is wasted
:lol a fucking Argentinian mummy still our best guard

[Chinook]

Who knows. He shouldn’t have THAT many concerns and seeing LMA play this way should make him happy. But SA will have to do something this deadline or Summer.

Unless Kawhi straight-up doesn't like LMA. Then no matter how good Aldridge plays, it wouldn't be enough. Like people are assuming Kawhi places winning above everything else. People assume that with most stars. But few do.

[weeks]

Unless Kawhi straight-up doesn't like LMA.

maybe, but i can't fathom why. that would be an absolute catastrophe

[Robz4000]

Who knows. He shouldn’t have THAT many concerns and seeing LMA play this way should make him happy. But SA will have to do something this deadline or Summer.

We've seen this song and dance before. They'll just chalk things up to injury and role back the same team next season sans two of Fathead/Forbes/Gay/Bertans unless Kawhi is gone.

[SAGirl]

The Spurs just couldn't stop fouling Utah. They literally doubled up SA in FTA, which is even more bonkers when you consider how many threes they made.
I am not sure Pop knows what to do at this point.

He can't ride the vets like he would in the past bc outside of Lamarcus they are all inconsistent and some are very poor on some nights. Age shows. Pau is turning into a situational player again that needs to come off the bench (no surprise there) but he doesn't have enough bigs and must play super tiny lineups that just won't be able to stop anyone.

He hasn't streamlined his rotation this late and is on the other side of the fence. He's still playing 12 guys, pulling guys here or there and changing things in a panic at the last minute.

[weeks]

Exactly. Something is wrong with the team. Pop's been flailing for weeks trying to figure it out. Makes me wonder (and this is completely baseless speculation) if the reason Kawhi "has concerns about the roster" is because LMA wasn't traded.

Okay so let me put on my conspiracy cap:

Pop was quoted as having a convo with LMA that went along the lines of "Listen, I'll be happy to trade you, if we can bring in someone like KD. I'll pack your bags and drive you to the airport. But otherwise we're gonna have to make this work somehow."

what if that was less about LMA and more about communicating a message to Kawhi, that PATFO can't get anyone for Aldridge that will be equal or greater value.

[Chinook]

maybe, but i can't fathom why. that would be an absolute catastrophe

Again, baseless speculation. But LMA and Lillard supposedly didn't like each other, and that didn't really come out until LMA left. I just see a Kawhi in a suit not being very engaged, and it sort of suggests that the rumors could have real legs. LMA signed his deal four days after the first Kawhi rumors came out, so they were probably being discussed when the report occurred. Then you have the Spurs being surprisingly decent despite Kawhi being out and LMA (rightfully) getting most of the credit. Then you have Kawhi potentially disagreeing with the team on how healthy he is and wanting to be sat EVEN MORE than Pop wants.

LMA joked that he didn't know what Kawhi sounded like because they hadn't spoken to each other. And they pretty much have no chemistry on the court.

Again, not really saying this is true. I obviously hope not. But Leonard is not Duncan. He's just not. He's much closer to Derrick Rose in terms of temperament. Without the gangbanger shit.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

inb4 0-6 on the rodeo road trip

[HI-FI]

Unless Kawhi straight-up doesn't like LMA. Then no matter how good Aldridge plays, it wouldn't be enough. Like people are assuming Kawhi places winning above everything else. People assume that with most stars. But few do.
Wasn’t LMA in Kawhi’s recent commercial? It’s not much but I doubt Kawhi would hook up someone with an easy paycheck if he hated them. Not saying they are buddy buddy either. Imho I think it’s more Kawhi and Pop not on good terms. Of course I really don’t know, but something is off with this current team.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

I'd say that Kawhi would be smart to leave, but as of now, we don't even know if the guy can wipe his fucking ass right now.

[Chinook]

Wasn’t LMA in Kawhi’s recent commercial? It’s not much but I doubt Kawhi would hook up someone with an easy paycheck if he hated them. Not saying they are buddy buddy either. Imho I think it’s more Kawhi and Pop not on good terms. Of course I really don’t know, but something is off with this current team.

LMA and Kawhi are both Jordan Brand guys.

[SAGirl]

Exactly. Something is wrong with the team. Pop's been flailing for weeks trying to figure it out. Makes me wonder (and this is completely baseless speculation) if the reason Kawhi "has concerns about the roster" is because LMA wasn't traded.
I have different speculation... though your speculation would make sense bc the concerns about the roster gossip came out b4 the season started so it has nothing to do with any losing streaks or anything recent.

I think Pop is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[Chinook]

I have different speculation... though your speculation would make sense bc the concerns about the roster gossip came out b4 the season started so it has nothing to do with any losing streaks or anything recent.

I think Pop is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I assume you don't literally mean that he's stuck somewhere right now, so care to elaborate?

[TimDunkem]

I assume you don't literally mean that he's stuck somewhere right now, so care to elaborate?Team probably should make moves, but he's sticking by his guys is what I assume she means.

[weeks]

but then again maybe kawhi was just attached to simmons more than we knew and he was upset they let him go. we really have no idea.

i can't think of a team kawhi would end up where he'd have the opportunity for both personal and team success that he does here

[Chinook]

Team probably should make moves, but he's stickking by his guys is what I assume she means.

But all Pop has to do in that case is cry afterwards. Like the Spurs still treat Hill like he's some sacred son even though Georgie holds nothing on guys like Boris and Tiago. Throw Patty a party or something. They did right by giving him $50 Million. That's enough.

[Chinook]

but then again maybe kawhi was just attached to simmons more than we knew and he was upset they let him go. we really have no idea.

i can't think of a team kawhi would end up where he'd have the opportunity for both personal and team success that he does here

Orlando is looking to trade Aaron Gordon...:stirpot:

[SAGirl]

Again, baseless speculation. But LMA and Lillard supposedly didn't like each other, and that didn't really come out until LMA left. I just see a Kawhi in a suit not being very engaged, and it sort of suggests that the rumors could have real legs. LMA signed his deal four days after the first Kawhi rumors came out, so they were probably being discussed when the report occurred. Then you have the Spurs being surprisingly decent despite Kawhi being out and LMA (rightfully) getting most of the credit. Then you have Kawhi potentially disagreeing with the team on how healthy he is and wanting to be sat EVEN MORE than Pop wants.

LMA joked that he didn't know what Kawhi sounded like because they hadn't spoken to each other. And they pretty much have no chemistry on the court.

Again, not really saying this is true. I obviously hope not. But Leonard is not Duncan. He's just not. He's much closer to Derrick Rose in terms of temperament. Without the gangbanger shit.
Yours are just observations based on real facts, things that have happened. It's tough to infer anything with kawhi bc he's expresionless most of the time, but he's also very aloof and difficult to bond with. and Lamarcus appears to be similarly reserved (although not autistic... not that I am saying Kiwi is but you know what I refer to). Think RC has played tough ball with guys too. I am sure they are having doubts about the supermax if Kiwi isn't healthy. Which if I am Kawhi I am upset about not just bc of the injury mismanagement but bc they had no problem paying up old has beens.

There is many reasons for that relationship to be challenging b4 one even considers LMA and Kiwi not having much on court chemistry.

[TimDunkem]

But all Pop has to do in that case is cry afterwards. Like the Spurs still treat Hill like he's some sacred son even though Georgie holds nothing on guys like Boris and Tiago. Throw Patty a party or something. They did right by giving him $50 Million. That's enough.

I'm with you here, but I think this FO thinks this roster has a shot if Kawhi comes back so they're sticking with the status quo.

[NASpurs]

If the Spurs actually believe they have a shot at Lebron, would they make any trades in the upcoming deadline? If they actually believe that, I just don't see them making any moves right now that would hinder their ability to create cap space. Trading away players right now for cap space would be fucking weird right?

[SAGirl]

I'm with you here, but I think this FO thinks this roster has a shot if Kawhi comes back so they're sticking with the status quo.

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[Chinook]

I'm with you here, but I think this FO thinks this roster has a shot if Kawhi comes back so they're sticking with the status quo.

And I think they might have a shot if guys start playing up to their potential for more than a game (or quarter) at a time. But if there is something going on in the locker room, I kind of doubt that Kawhi being healthy will alleviate it. The Spurs more than any other team can't afford chemistry problems.

[NASpurs]

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At this point, making the playoffs should be their concern.

[ace3g]

Like others have said here ...

Very odd season

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[Amuseddaysleeper]

Like others have said here ...

Very odd season

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Thank god Manu sees the team for what they are. Props for his honesty

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't mind this loss, tbh..it was extremely fluky with Rubio having the best game of his career + horrendous officiating, but more importantly, losses like these are the only way the FO might get a reality check..they can't use the Fool's Gold 3rd seed as validation..

[tholdren]

Thank god Manu sees the team for what they are. Props for his honesty

Manu made the spurs. Still best player. Todays no talent nba is for losers

[SAGirl]

I assume you don't literally mean that he's stuck somewhere right now, so care to elaborate?
I already gave some away in another reply but it's mostly two things:
1. I am speculating that at the very least they have reservations about the supermax until Kiwi is fully healthy. It just makes sense. I don't think they would have a problem doing what they must even if the contract will place them in a very difficult position (as you stated in another thread you know)... bc that is the reality of the market is what it is, he is worth what he's worth if healthy and they will have to streamline and get rid of whomever to fit him in. But if he's not healthy and things don't look good that will push the pause button. I remember way back that Kiwi's agent blew smoke the season he was due for an extension and he didn't get it. He gave some nasty interviews to the media to put pressure on the Spurs. I am sure they explained the plan they had to add talent the following season but Kiwi's camp was still upset. It's naive to assume there aren't any money issues here and the implications his injury have on that. That in itself is making things very complicated and the relationship "challenging" and there have been leaks which is unusual for the Spurs... we can spin this however we want to...

2. the other point is a lot more far fetched. The rock and the hard place is that the Spurs need to make some tough choices with the roster and perhaps part with some beloved players. or bench guys they don't want to, or just shake things up in a way that Pop doesn't want to. They have already done some things like bench Tony, but that isn't enough. I have seen Hilliard getting called up, Pop is now starting DAvis, etc. He's looking for roster shakeups without a trade and maybe a trade is needed. I don't think they want to trade, they probably think if Kiwi and Rudy were healthy it solves their problems which is why I think they want to stand pat, but Pop is losing patience out there, and something is not alright with the locker room either...

[SAGirl]

Team probably should make moves, but he's sticking by his guys is what I assume she means.
yes.. I do tend to be so wordy.. but yes... they need to make a move and don't want to.

[SAGirl]

Like others have said here ...

Very odd season

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Manu has been saying they can't find the identity they need to consistently play well for many weeks right now.

[Snaq O'Meal]

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Did the Spurs pay him $50 mills to be a PR spokesperson? If so, this delusional fat wombat is starting to look like Comical Ali.

[palangi]

Orlando is looking to trade Aaron Gordon...:stirpot:
I'd trade Aldridge for him and take on biyombo contact for them too. He is a defensive big that rebounds and blocks shots.

If we want to get greedy throw KA and Forbes in to get hezonja too

[duncan2k5]

I don't wanna start calling ppl idiots without first understanding... Why do you guys consistently say Kawhi and Aldridge have no chemistry on court, when we have had the two best back to back seasons, including our winningest season with them as the main guys? We have consistently been in the top 10 on offense, and top 3 (most times one) on defense... The team has good chemistry with them... Kawhi is the best player in the world... He elevates the level of play for everyone on court... The problem arises when pop plays cute and limits his minutes, even in the playoffs (thunder), or he simply isn't on the court (Zaza)... You take the best player in the world off of their team for their respective sport, there will be issues...

Ppl looking at Kawhi's body language on the bench as evidence he isn't engaging with LA... dude rarely engages with anyone... U want him to be like lebron? Fake love to everyone? Dude is just chill... Relax... Our FO is trying to make it seem like someone else is the issue, when it is THEM! Kawhi has been exceeding expectations since he got here... Our FO has been underperforming during that same time

[Hoops Czar]

No foul, no harm

Should have been though. Det ZaZa impersonation. :lol

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[r0drig0lac]

LMAlpha with 31 points...Manu next highest scorer with fucking 13...
Aldridge doing everything he can to elevate this trash team and still getting ignored and derided by ST.

I would say more: "the style of basketball that I like to play is not the best for a team, but who cares? I'm happy"

[objective]

Aside from the lack of talent, which is bad enough, they've been playing like they're punch drunk for a couple of weeks. Really bad turnovers, dumb things.

There won't be a chance to change and get sober I'm afraid until the trade deadline is past.

Obviously they have to add another big in the rotation. If that takes paying a team to take Joffrey, that's what they have to do. Doesn't matter if it's Costello or Brimah or a big who gets bought out or a big from Europe. Someone with a pulse needs to play as a big. LMA and Abuelo Gasol are worn out. It's a disgrace on management that they've been run through like this. Hopefully the load on Aldridge won't pop an achilles on him.

After that, Pop will have the opportunity to do the right thing and take Mills out of the rotation entirely. Him and Forbes, their trash defense and lack of other skills beyond decent shooting aren't enough. White has to be given a shot ahead of those two turkeys. They might worry that they'll kill the trade value of Mills, but I fear it's already dead if they don't find someone dumb enough to take Mills at the deadline. They'll have to resign themselves to waiting until Mills and his deal are small enough that they can dump a first to get rid of him.

If they do those two things, a different big and benching Mills for White, then that will be the sign that they've come out of their stupor and are ready to responsibly address the situation they're in. It won't 'fix' things as in making them a contender with a healthy Kawhi, only a sign of sobriety and moving forward.

But I don't expect that to happen this year. More wobbling around, stumbling and belching, thinking they've still got it. After they're down 3-1 they might try White in the first round, then loss and make sad excuses.

[SAGirl]

Aside from the lack of talent, which is bad enough, they've been playing like they're punch drunk for a couple of weeks. Really bad turnovers, dumb things.

There won't be a chance to change and get sober I'm afraid until the trade deadline is past.

Obviously they have to add another big in the rotation. If that takes paying a team to take Joffrey, that's what they have to do. Doesn't matter if it's Costello or Brimah or a big who gets bought out or a big from Europe. Someone with a pulse needs to play as a big. LMA and Abuelo Gasol are worn out. It's a disgrace on management that they've been run through like this. Hopefully the load on Aldridge won't pop an achilles on him.

After that, Pop will have the opportunity to do the right thing and take Mills out of the rotation entirely. Him and Forbes, their trash defense and lack of other skills beyond decent shooting aren't enough. White has to be given a shot ahead of those two turkeys. They might worry that they'll kill the trade value of Mills, but I fear it's already dead if they don't find someone dumb enough to take Mills at the deadline. They'll have to resign themselves to waiting until Mills and his deal are small enough that they can dump a first to get rid of him.

If they do those two things, a different big and benching Mills for White, then that will be the sign that they've come out of their stupor and are ready to responsibly address the situation they're in. It won't 'fix' things as in making them a contender with a healthy Kawhi, only a sign of sobriety and moving forward.

But I don't expect that to happen this year. More wobbling around, stumbling and belching, thinking they've still got it. After they're down 3-1 they might try White in the first round, then loss and make sad excuses.

I tend to agree. I didn't think of White, since besides being a rook, Pop has played him so little but obviously giving him an opportunity takes even more minutes from guys he's already scrambling to play. At this stage one even wonders if he's just ok not having playable bigs bc he has to find a way to play all these guards... I am probably exaggerating and taking things to an extreme to make the point but it has been Pop's trend. Already when Kiwi and Rudy come back (if they come back) it's going to be difficult to play all these guards.

[weeks]

I would say more: "the style of basketball that I like to play is not the best for a team, but who cares? I'm happy"

:lol
the style of basketball the entire roster plays is not best for the team

i'm sure it's LMA's fault the spurs are only 3rd in the west without their MVP
hard to say anything about his style of play considering without him we're a GD lottery team. look at the talent he's got to work with.
dude hustles, supports his teammates, plays the best D we got right now, always suits up, and does what he's asked.

he deserves some blame for our team's poor play, inasmuch as the entire fucking organization does, but the sorry construction of this group is not on him.

[venitian navigator]

Murray is not a pg. Mills is not a pg. Forbes is not a pg. None of the three can give a rythm to the team, none of the three is able to constantly read defenses. And, and that's painful considering the skills of Murray, none of the three can defend a good pg first step. What's happened against utah is inexcusable...as Manu has remarked, they were always able to pass trough our first defense line....all night long.
imho with the actual roster the solution is only one...considering we can not go back to giving Tony or Manu the role of the starting point guard anymore.
Give the fucking ball to KA.
He's a natural play maker and all our efforts of make out a shooter (expecially a spot up shooter) of him are gone bad...his instinct is and probably will always remain, the one of a pass first guard. But he has the skills (lenght and wiew) for making all the right decisions with the ball in his hands.
plus, imho, he's now a decent defender also against guards, and in any case we have (or should have on paper) the right people for defending someone who's too fast or agile for him (Green and Murray cames to mind)...

[tbdog]

I'd trade Aldridge for him and take on biyombo contact for them too. He is a defensive big that rebounds and blocks shots.

If we want to get greedy throw KA and Forbes in to get hezonja too

Herzonja is awful. Regardless, not sure if Gordon will ever be better than LMA. So not worth it.

[r0drig0lac]

Murray is not a pg. Mills is not a pg. Forbes is not a pg. None of the three can give a rythm to the team, none of the three is able to constantly read defenses. And, and that's painful considering the skills of Murray, none of the three can defend a good pg first step. What's happened against utah is inexcusable...as Manu has remarked, they were always able to pass trough our first defense line....all night long.
imho with the actual roster the solution is only one...considering we can not go back to giving Tony or Manu the role of the starting point guard anymore.
Give the fucking ball to KA.
He's a natural play maker and all our efforts of make out a shooter (expecially a spot up shooter) of him are gone bad...his instinct is and probably will always remain, the one of a pass first guard. But he has the skills (lenght and wiew) for making all the right decisions with the ball in his hands.
plus, imho, he's now a decent defender also against guards, and in any case we have (or should have on paper) the right people for defending someone who's too fast or agile for him (Green and Murray cames to mind)...
agree

[ElNono]

Should have been though. Det ZaZa impersonation. :lol

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:lol

[palangi]

Herzonja is awful. Regardless, not sure if Gordon will ever be better than LMA. So not worth it.

The for might be better though

[BillMc]

Did the Spurs pay him $50 mills to be a PR spokesperson? If so, this delusional fat wombat is starting to look like Comical Ali.


"delusional fat wombat" that's not a term you hear often in life. :lol

[spursistan]

"On pace to win 60"

"On pace to win 55"

"On pace to win 53"

We see where this team is trending without Kawhi. Yes, the best player is out, but this team has the GOAT coach with vets and an all-star in Aldridge yet they continue to trend down?

Face it, slurpers. This whole team other than Kawhi is trash.

tbh :lol

Meanwhile raybies offed himself upon the realization that this team might not actually have better roster than the Warriors..

[LakerHater]

:lol people should rewind it to see it


LakerHater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4302)what time & qtr?

[NASpurs]

what time & qtr?

3rd quarter, 6:17 is when Danny hits the 3.

Pop's reaction is what was gold. :lol

[TheDoctor]

959166382255505408

Damage Control. Fifty Fatty's scared he's gonna be traded tbh

[LakerHater]

:lol people should rewind it to see it


3rd quarter, 6:17 is when Danny hits the 3.

Pop's reaction is what was gold. :lol
https://openload.co/f/Z_0v51enK4Y/NBA-2018.02.03_UTA@SAS_720pier.ru.mkv#

[LakerHater]

LakerHater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4302)


Yeah that's who I meant :lol

LakerHater (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4302)


https://openload.co/f/Z_0v51enK4Y/NBA-2018.02.03_UTA@SAS_720pier.ru.mkv#
https://images2.imgbox.com/40/1a/VEk5TRQF_o.gif

[Chinook]

https://images2.imgbox.com/40/1a/VEk5TRQF_o.gif

Thanks. One of those "be glad that you made it" shots.