Seattle should trade for Foles

[Clipper Nation]

He's better than Struggle, and it turns out that he's pretty clutch. And he did it without a defense (unlike Struggle, who can't win anything without one of the most stacked defenses ever assembled 100% healthy). Imagine what he'd do with the Legion of Boom :wow

[Avante]

Comparing what Wilson has done in his 6 season career vs what Foles has done, would be cartoonish. Think....Alabama vs Furman.

Dude, when do you ever learn the game, well? Will you ever figure out....BODY OF WORK? Look at yourself son, STILL freaking out over....A....game or two, yep......EL ROOKIE.


Why do you think Foles has been bounched around for six seasons while Russell Wilson is playing in SB's and pro bowls, well? Why does Wilson own numerous NFL records, while Foles is thinking retirement.....well?

Dude, according to you Derek Anderson is better than Cam Newton, guess what little guy.....he's not. According to you Tom Savage is better than DeShaun Watson and Dax Prescott, guess what shorty......he's not.

Dude, learn the damn game, ok?

I will use just one stat, QB rating.

Wilson 98.4
Foles 87.4

In the history of the NFL, when talking that important number.

I get you won't get this.


Updated through the 2017 season.[2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2)[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-3)




Rank

Quarterback

Rating



1

Aaron Rodgers (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Aaron_Rodgers)

103.8



2

Russell Wilson (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Russell_Wilson)

98.8



3

Tom Brady (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Tom_Brady)

97.6



4

Tony Romo (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Tony_Romo)

97.1



5

Steve Young (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Steve_Young)

96.8



6

Drew Brees (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Drew_Brees)

96.7



7

Peyton Manning (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Peyton_Manning)

96.5



8

Philip Rivers (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Philip_Rivers)

94.8



9

Ben Roethlisberger (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Ben_Roethlisberger)

94.0



10

Kurt Warner (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Kurt_Warner)

93.7



Kirk Cousins (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Kirk_Cousins)



12

Matt Ryan (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Matt_Ryan_(American_football))

93.4



13

Joe Montana (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Joe_Montana)

92.3



14

Chad Pennington (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Chad_Pennington)

90.1



15

Matt Schaub (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Matt_Schaub)

89.1



16

Colin Kaepernick (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

88.9



17

Andy Dalton (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Andy_Dalton)

88.7



18

Matthew Stafford (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Matthew_Stafford)

88.3



19

Carson Palmer (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Carson_Palmer)

87.9



20

Daunte Culpepper (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Daunte_Culpepper)

87.8



21

Jeff Garcia (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Jeff_Garcia)

87.5



Derek Carr (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Derek_Carr)



23

Alex Smith (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Alex_Smith)

87.4



24

Andrew Luck (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Andrew_Luck)

87.3



25

Jameis Winston (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Jameis_Winston)

87.2



26

Otto Graham (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Otto_Graham)

86.6



27

Ryan Tannehill (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Ryan_Tannehill)

86.5



28

Dan Marino (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Dan_Marino)

86.4



29

Brett Favre (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Brett_Favre)

86.0



Trent Green (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Trent_Green)



31

David Garrard (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/David_Garrard)

85.8



32

Donovan McNabb (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Donovan_McNabb)

85.6



33

Jay Cutler (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Jay_Cutler_(American_football))

85.3



Cam Newton (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Cam_Newton)



35

Sam Bradford (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Sam_Bradford)

85.1



36

Rich Gannon (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Rich_Gannon)

84.7



37

Marc Bulger (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Marc_Bulger)

84.4



Jim Kelly (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Jim_Kelly)



39

Joe Flacco (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Joe_Flacco)

84.1



40

Mark Brunell (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Mark_Brunell)

84.0

[Avante]

Later this year the NFL players will once again vote for the top 100 players in the NFL. last season Wilson was ranked....17. I do expect to see more 15ish for 2017.

Five pro bowls in his six season career, he owns at least four NFL records and no QB has ever won more games in their first six seasons.

Rookie....forget all that Avante, Nick Foles played a hell of a game.

Hahahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

[Clipper Nation]

Comparing what Wilson has done in his 6 season career vs what Foles has done, would be cartoonish. Think....Alabama vs Furman.
Exactly. Foles is undefeated in Super Bowls and is a Super Bowl MVP. Struggle can't even compare.

[HI-FI]

Piston Nation brings up a good point, where does Foles go from here?

[Avante]

Exactly. Foles is undefeated in Super Bowls and is a Super Bowl MVP. Struggle can't even compare.

Dude, do think at all before posting, ever?

Is Mark Rypien SB MVP better than Dan Marino? Dude, Larry Brown, Dexter Jackson were SB MVP's. Jim Plunkett.....ha~~~~

Dude, why do you OVER REACT to everything? You have any idea how damn rookie you look?

The Eagles had the second ranked D, the 4th ranked running game, Foles only played in how many games? And wasn't it just a month ago when it was.....Nick Foles yikes???

Yes, the guy played a great game but don't act stupid over it, ok rookie?

[Avante]

Piston Nation brings up a good point, where does Foles go from here?

So many so so players were SB MVP, no big deal at all. Ya never put too much into...a...game.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Dude, do think at all before posting, ever?

Is Mark Rypien SB MVP better than Dan Marino? Dude, Larry Brown, Dexter Jackson were SB MVP's. Jim Plunkett.....ha~~~~

Dude, why do you OVER REACT to everything? You have any idea how damn rookie you look?

The Eagles had the second ranked D, the 4th ranked running game, Foles only played in how many games? And wasn't it just a month ago when it was.....Nick Foles yikes???

Yes, the guy played a great game but don't act stupid over it, ok rookie?

In all fairness, the running game was great but the defense was atrocious tonight. Foles didn't bus drive or game manage the Eagles to victory, ala Peyton Manning two years ago... nope... Foles legitimately went out and won it without any significant help on the other side of the ball. yes the o-line and backs were great, but Jeffery really put them in jeopardy with the dumb pop up where the NE defender picked it off... if the Eagles go up 22-6 there I don't know if NE recovers in time.

[Chris]

Piston Nation

:lol

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Piston Nation brings up a good point, where does Foles go from here?

Stays in Philly until Wentz clears medical, practices and looks like his old self, that's for sure

no way you're going without a quality QB to start the season next year... Cowboys will run away and hide with the division.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Piston Nation
:lmao

[Avante]

In all fairness, the running game was great but the defense was atrocious tonight. Foles didn't bus drive or game manage the Eagles to victory, ala Peyton Manning two years ago... nope... Foles legitimately went out and won it without any significant help on the other side of the ball. yes the o-line and backs were great, but Jeffery really put them in jeopardy with the dumb pop up where the NE defender picked it off... if the Eagles go up 22-6 there I don't know if NE recovers in time.

Do you honestly get carried away with.....A.....game? You even heard of SB MVP Mark Rypien? How many yards did Timmy Smith...who???...have in his SB?

Talk to me about SB MVP's Larry Brown and Dexter Jackson.

Ya look at a guys career, his body of work, not....A....game.

I've seen this rookie Clipper Nation freak out over....a play......ok?

[Avante]

Avante...got a minute Pete?
Pete Carroll....Dude, everytime I see you you're bigger, ya know we could use a tackle?
Avante..ah shucks. So what would ya think of trading Russell Wilson for Nick Foles?
Pete....what do you bench anyway, 550?
Avante...lately, 450, so what about the trade?
Pete....you know all bout Russell, can you imagine Foles behind our 2017 offensive line? Only Russell Wilson could have put us in contention. Foles is a good QB, but as the entire NFL knows Russell Wilson is a great QB, only a fool would make that trade.
Avante....I agree coach and thanks.
Pete....ah....what can ya run a 40 in?
Avante....invest some $$$$ protect Wilson, ok?
Pete....got it.

[Avante]

Mark Rypien played 12 NFL seasons, he was a SB MVP.

He was also a 56.5 comp % passer and had a QB rating of 79.5 which is terrible, and his TD/INT ratio...115/88.

Only a rookie would make a dumbass statement like this....but he's undefeated in a SB and a SB MVP. Fuck...Larry Brown was a SB MVP, I know....who?

We know if ya put a good team around Russell Wilson he's taking them to a SB, we also know if ya put a shit team around him....another Pro Bowl and MVP talk. When has Foles ever did anything, other than take over a winning team and play a couple good games? He could totally suck next season, as we know CN's QB's all end up sucking.

Actually take a few mintues and Google Nick Foles stats, it's all right there staring at ya, this is nothing special at all. Now look at Wilsons numbers, a whole totally different deal, totally.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Do you honestly get carried away with.....A.....game? You even heard of SB MVP Mark Rypien? How many yards did Timmy Smith...who???...have in his SB?

Talk to me about SB MVP's Larry Brown and Dexter Jackson.

Ya look at a guys career, his body of work, not....A....game.

I've seen this rookie Clipper Nation freak out over....a play......ok?
as a Cowboy fan I know Larry Brown got his only because the Steelers QB in that game decided to treat Deion Sanders like ebola.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Avante...got a minute Pete?
Pete Carroll....Dude, everytime I see you you're bigger, ya know we could use a tackle?
Avante..ah shucks. So what would ya think of trading Russell Wilson for Nick Foles?
Pete....what do you bench anyway, 550?
Avante...lately, 450, so what about the trade?
Pete....you know all bout Russell, can you imagine Foles behind our 2017 offensive line? Only Russell Wilson could have put us in contention. Foles is a good QB, but as the entire NFL knows Russell Wilson is a great QB, only a fool would make that trade.
Avante....I agree coach and thanks.
Pete....ah....what can ya run a 40 in?
Avante....invest some $$$$ protect Wilson, ok?
Pete....got it.

problem is... Seahawks don't have any $$$$. They're already going to lose Jimmy Graham and others. They'll be lucky to keep Paul Richardson. Their ILBs are expensive and worth it. Sherman and Thomas are expensive and worth it, when they're healthy. Who knows on Chancellor? They're probably going to dump their 2013 acquisitions, Avril and Bennett, but who are going to replace them?

[Avante]

as a Cowboy fan I know Larry Brown got his only because the Steelers QB in that game decided to treat Deion Sanders like ebola.

I'll ty again....

Do you honestly get carried away with...A...game, well?

[Avante]

problem is... Seahawks don't have any $$$$. They're already going to lose Jimmy Graham and others. They'll be lucky to keep Paul Richardson. Their ILBs are expensive and worth it. Sherman and Thomas are expensive and worth it, when they're healthy. Who knows on Chancellor? They're probably going to dump their 2013 acquisitions, Avril and Bennett, but who are going to replace them?

You never seem to really get the point.

This was a shit Seahwak team in 2017, ONLY Russell Wilson had them one game away from the playoffs, and he led the NFL anyway with 34 TD passes, made ANOTHER pro bowl and was in the MVP talk and set yet ANOTHER NFL record. And some goof who thinks Tom Savage is better than Watson, is once again posting....see me I stupid.

As of today I put Wilson behind Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Big Ben that's it.

[Avante]

I get we all act goofy here, troll people like a bunch of dumb kids, but, isn't it time to get real? A place where grown men...chirp chirp...ha~~~ Don't any of you ever watch TV, or read? If ya do then how ln the hell are you missing what is said abouT Russell Wilson? The FACT, he makes pro bowls, wins SB's, sets NFL record, leads the NFL with some stat, has won more games than anyone after six seasons means nothing?

Why act like know nothings, it's really not a good look.

[Avante]

I'm going to copy this....Seattle should trade for Foles. Then next season when it becomes real obvious there is a reason Foles has been bounced around is.....he's just not that good game in and game out. I'll remind CN of how ....once again....100% wrong. As we hear....he's magical..only Russell Wilson can do that.

Yep, this is right up there with....should Derek Anderson start over Cam Newton and Tom Savage is the best QB iin Texas............PERIOD.

Has CN ever got anything right, ever?

Didn't he have the Pats winning by 30?

[Clipper Nation]

In all fairness, the running game was great but the defense was atrocious tonight. Foles didn't bus drive or game manage the Eagles to victory, ala Peyton Manning two years ago... nope... Foles legitimately went out and won it without any significant help on the other side of the ball. yes the o-line and backs were great, but Jeffery really put them in jeopardy with the dumb pop up where the NE defender picked it off... if the Eagles go up 22-6 there I don't know if NE recovers in time.
This. I kept waiting for Foles to turn into a game manager and it never happened. He was making franchise QB throws all game.

[Clipper Nation]

Then next season when it becomes real obvious there is a reason Foles has been bounced around is.....he's just not that good game in and game out.
The reason why Foles bounced around is the same reason why the Vikings picked Keenum up off the scrapheap and everyone thought Jared Goff was a bust: Jeff Fisher's "coaching."

[Fabbs]

Exactly. Foles is undefeated in Super Bowls and is a Super Bowl MVP. Struggle can't even compare.
You've triggered Almanac Boy. :lol

Ya Rypien was nails in those Super Bowls.

[clambake]

You've triggered Almanac Boy. :lol

Ya Rypien was nails in those Super Bowls.

the thread was built for trigger.


and it was very effective.

[Bill_Brasky]

Just proves that the Eagles are good because of overall talent/coaching, put Wentz on the Browns and i bet he'd be pretty damn average tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Just proves that the Eagles are good because of overall talent/coaching, put Wentz on the Browns and i bet he'd be pretty damn average tbh

Let's not go crazy now. Wentz is better than Foles, and they would have won this game comfortably with Wentz.

[Chris]

Gotta love the kid


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[Raven]

he wouldn't work well there, they have no offensive line to speak of.. It's a very intentional choice for them to have wilson lead their shitty offense.

[Clipper Nation]

he wouldn't work well there, they have no offensive line to speak of.. It's a very intentional choice for them to have wilson lead their shitty offense.

Struggle makes their O-line look a lot worse than it is, tbh:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-seahawks-offensive-line-one-man-rush-redskins-russell-wilson

[Raven]

Struggle makes their O-line look a lot worse than it is, tbh:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-seahawks-offensive-line-one-man-rush-redskins-russell-wilson

I agree, but it's still bad.

[leemajors]

https://deadspin.com/allegedly-enormous-donged-eagles-qb-leads-team-to-super-1822718664

Big Dick Nick.

[Avante]

This. I kept waiting for Foles to turn into a game manager and it never happened. He was making franchise QB throws all game.

Here's where you always make your big mistake.......ALL GAME.

Dude......ALL GAME....now think, ok? You do that all the time, and it's so damn rookie. ALL GAME......dude, nobody gets as carried away with....A...game like you do. Those of us who know the game need far far far more than....A...game, ok slugger?

Give things some time, guy, something you just can't seem to figure out.

[Avante]

I keep waiting and waiting and waiting for somebody to come with a QB who did it better than Russell Wilson has done in their first six seasons. How come I never see him, yep......he doesn't exist.

NFL records, five pro bowls, SB champ, NFL leader, winningest QB before 30.

Love facts.

In the history of the NFL only Aaron Rodgers has a higer career QB rating. But fuck all that....trade him...hahahaha~~~~~~~~

[Ghazi]

Eagles need to trade Foles while his vakue is high

[Will Hunting]

I keep waiting and waiting and waiting for somebody to come with a QB who did it better than Russell Wilson has done in their first six seasons. How come I never see him, yep......he doesn't exist.

NFL records, five pro bowls, SB champ, NFL leader, winningest QB before 30.

Love facts.

In the history of the NFL only Aaron Rodgers has a higer career QB rating. But fuck all that....trade him...hahahaha~~~~~~~~
You’re retarded if you think he’s had a better career through 6 seasons than Tom Brady did.

[spurraider21]

You’re retarded if you think he’s had a better career through 6 seasons than Tom Brady did.
coulda just stopped there

[Clipper Nation]

You’re retarded if you think he’s had a better career through 6 seasons than Tom Brady did.
His goalpost move will be that Struggle didn't hold a clipboard for a year like Brady did, as if that matters. It's the same excuse he's used in the past when I've brought up guys like Kurt Warner.

[Avante]

You’re retarded if you think he’s had a better career through 6 seasons than Tom Brady did.

I love facts.

Brady first six seasons

most yards in a season...4, 110
highest QB rating....92.6
most TD's in a season....28 twice
best comp %...63.9
TD/INT...123/66

Russell Wilson first six seasons

most yards in a season....4, 219 (and he had two 4000 seasons, Brady only one)
highest QB rating....110.1 to lead the NFL, and he's had three 100.0 or better seasons, Brady..just a 92.6
most td's in a season...34 and an NFL leading 34 this season
best comp %....68.1 (64.7, 64.1 all better than Brady's best)
TD/INT...161/56 (brady threw 66 INTs in five seasons)

How about rushing yards, hahaha~~~~

Dude, only some retard like you wouldn't get this. Yep...ALL...Russell Wilson.

Now add these NFL records

Most TD passes in the 4th quarter
Only 4000/30/500 season in history (came within 17 yards of having the second in 2017)
Rookie TD record (with Peyton)
Only QB to start his career with 100 QB ratings his first two seasons
Most wins in their first six seasons

Wilson in five pro bowls his first six seasons, how many was Brady in?

If the NFL never played another game, only Aaron Rodgers has a higher career QB rating than Russell Wilson, yep, talking Slingin' Sammy, Sid Luckman, Otto Graham, Johhny U, Montana/Marino/Manning/Favre/Brees/Big Ben/Elway/Moon/Young/Aikman/Brady.......HELL....Tom Savage even.

[Pelicans78]

I love facts.

Brady first six seasons

most yards in a season...4, 110
highest QB rating....92.6
most TD's in a season....28 twice
best comp %...63.9
TD/INT...123/66

Russell Wilson first six seasons

most yards in a season....4, 219 (and he had two 4000 seasons, Brady only one)
highest QB rating....110.1 to lead the NFL, and he's had three 100.0 or better seasons, Brady..just a 92.6
most td's in a season...34 and an NFL leading 34 this season
best comp %....68.1 (64.7, 64.1 all better than Brady's best)
TD/INT...161/56 (brady threw 66 INTs in five seasons)

How about rushing yards, hahaha~~~~

Brady won 3 Super Bowls, Wilson cost the Seahawks one.
Dude, only some retard like you wouldn't get this. Yep...ALL...Russell Wilson.

Now add these NFL records

Most TD passes in the 4th quarter
Only 4000/30/500 season in history (came within 17 yards of having the second in 2017)
Rookie TD record (with Peyton)
Only QB to start his career with 100 QB ratings his first two seasons
Most wins in their first six seasons

Wilson in five pro bowls his first six seasons, how many was Brady in?

[Avante]

Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahan
Brad Johnson

Won a SB

Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
Dan Fouts

nope~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And, teams win SB's.

When it comes to individual stats it wasn't even close.....ALL...Russell Wilson.

Who thinks Nick Foles is a better QB than Tom Brady, see how stupid you were?

[Avante]

When it comes to a combo...

Playoff success
Ind stats
NFL leading stats
NFL records
Pro bowls

NOBODY....had a better first six seasns than Russell Wilson.

[Ice009]

What's the most yards in a season thing? For example, Wilson, 4, 219. What do those numbers mean?

[Clipper Nation]

Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahan
Brad Johnson

Won a SB

Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
Dan Fouts

nope~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And Struggle lost a Super Bowl all by himself.

[Pelicans78]

Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahan
Brad Johnson

Won a SB

Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
Dan Fouts

nope~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And, teams win SB's.

When it comes to individual stats it wasn't even close.....ALL...Russell Wilson.

Who thinks Nick Foles is a better QB than Tom Brady, see how stupid you were?

Wilson wouldn't have been good enough to win since he's proven he can lose a Super Bowl. Plus the stats are meaningless when passing numbers are massively inflated in this era. Stupid comparison. Just fucking stupid. Like comparing baseball stats between a guy from the home run era to a guy from the dead ball era. Just fucking stupid.

[Avante]

And Struggle lost a Super Bowl all by himself.

Didn't Tom Brady just fumble away this SB?

Dude, see how stupid this....one.....play thing is? I know...huh?

[Avante]

Wilson wouldn't have been good enough to win since he's proven he can lose a Super Bowl. Plus the stats are meaningless when passing numbers are massively inflated in this era. Stupid comparison. Just fucking stupid. Like comparing baseball stats between a guy from the home run era to a guy from the dead ball era. Just fucking stupid.

So no stats mean anything at all, it's all stupid?

Wilson had more yards, TD's, less INT's, a better comp %, a better QB rating.....NFL RECORDS, PRO BOWLS.....but ignore all that, hahahaha~~~~~~

Wilson walked right in and took over, while there sat Brady, then Wilson preceded to put up the best first six seaons we have ever seen from any QB, yep.......FACT.

If all that ever mattes is SB wins then Nick Foles is better than Dan Marino, right?

[pgardn]

Didn't Tom Brady just fumble away this SB?

Dude, see how stupid this....one.....play thing is? I know...huh?

The team played no role?
His line did a great job until when?
Yep....

Contradictions, you have no problem with.

[Avante]

The team played no role?
His line did a great job until when?
Yep....

Contradictions, you have no problem with.

ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[pgardn]

ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Line drive Right over laughy taffy's head.
Condradicting exactly what he stated earlier.

[Avante]

Line drive Right over laughy taffy's head.
Condradicting exactly what he stated earlier.

Dude, are you really as damn stupid as you appear. You really didn't see what I was doing there?

Dude, you constantly get things wrong, ok? I do wonder about your mental stability, real talk.

That deal over my picks, ya totally messed that up, because ya don't understand things. Everything I say is studied and I know this, are you so damn dumb ya think I think I could ever pull a fast one without somebody seeing it? You can't be this damn dumb.

[Clipper Nation]

Didn't Tom Brady just fumble away this SB?

Dude, see how stupid this....one.....play thing is? I know...huh?

And it still doesn't compare to The Pick! Literally the biggest individual chokejob in NFL history, and probably always will be.

[Avante]

And it still doesn't compare to The Pick! Literally the biggest individual chokejob in NFL history, and probably always will be.

Right there says it all about you, you simply don't understand the game. Tom Savage? Derek Anderson? Running down Peyton? OVER REACTING....to everything like some rookie.

Wilson was in his second SB in his first three seasons, those of us who know the game get just how...wow...that is. Then, when ya look at all his NFL records, wins, pro bowls. NFL leading stats, we have a very VERY special QB here. To a know nothing like you all that matters is....THE PICK. Dude, are you retarded?

[Clipper Nation]

That "one play" thingy:


In terms of one play swinging a team’s chances of winning the Super Bowl, the second-down interception was probably the most important in the history of the NFL. Burke’s Advanced Football Analytics model suggested after the game that the Patriots’ chances of winning jumped from 12 percent before the interception to 99 percent afterward (http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/tools/live-wp-graph/index.php?gameid1=2015020100), for a swing of 87 percentage points. It’s difficult for one play in any context to shift things that dramatically.

The Mike Jones tackle of Kevin Dyson at the 1-yard line in Super Bowl XXXIV came to mind, but that was a 23-16 game; even if Dyson had gotten in, Tennessee’s chances of winning would have risen only to about 50 percent, since the two teams would have gone to overtime (or Tennessee would have attempted a two-pointer, which would also have put its chances of winning near 50 percent). The most meaningful play before this one was probably Scott Norwood’s missed 47-yard field goal in a 20-19 game at the end of Super Bowl XXV, but there’s no way he had an 87 percent chance of making the game-winning field goal to begin with, so even reducing Buffalo’s chances to zero wouldn’t match Wilson’s interception.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/super-bowl-new-england-patriots-seattle-seahawks/

[Avante]

That "one play" thingy:

Just going to that extreme tells is just how little ya know about the game. Dude.......BODY OF WORK.....one more time.....BODY OF WORK....ok son? Not ...A..season, not...A...game, and certainly not....A...play, ok rookie?

[Clipper Nation]

Just going to that extreme tells is just how little ya know about the game. Dude.......BODY OF WORK.....one more time.....BODY OF WORK....ok son? Not ...A..season, not...A...game, and certainly not....A...play, ok rookie?

Struggle's legacy:

"In terms of one play swinging a team's chances of winning the Super Bowl, the second-down interception was probably the most important in the history of the NFL."

The Pick

[Avante]

Struggle's legacy:

"In terms of one play swinging a team's chances of winning the Super Bowl, the second-down interception was probably the most important in the history of the NFL."

The Pick

So forget the fact in his third season he had taken a team to TWO SB and came within a yard of winning both? The hell with all those NFL records, all his accomplishments?

I can see why ya said what ya said about Derek Anderson, Alex Smith, Tyreek Hill, Tom Savage, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton....you're a 100% idiot.

[Clipper Nation]

So forget the fact in his third season he had taken a team to TWO SB and came within a yard of winning both? The hell with all those NFL records, all his accomplishments?

I can see why ya said what ya said about Derek Anderson, Alex Smith, Tyreek Hill, Tom Savage, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton....you're a 100% idiot.
Struggle hadn't taken any team anywhere. He was dragged there by the defense.

[Avante]

Struggle hadn't taken any team anywhere. He was dragged there by the defense.

Dude, then ya wonder why I see you as a know nothing.

What about this don't you get?

ONLY QB in history.....to post 100 and better QB ratings in his first two seasons.
Ties the rookie QB TD record.
Voted to pro bowls.
His stats on a par with anyone with his experience.

Dude, do you have any clue at all just how many times Wilson had to bring his team back in the 4th quarter? Don't have a clue do ya?

Why do you think EVERYONE raves about this guy, ya ever wonder why that is?

You don't get football guy, ya don't understand the game.

When talking any athlete ya compare them to where others were at the same stage of the career, something you totally ignore. To you a 14 year vet is no different than a second year guy. Which is stupid.

For Wilson to do what he's done....AT THIS STAGE OF THE CAREER.....is totally amazing and if ya knew the game at all you'd see it. Being a dummy it zoooommms right over your pin head.

[Avante]

What does this tell you little guy?


The annual Football Outsiders Almanac is filled with a bunch of great numbers and useful information on all 32 teams, including the Seattle Seahawks. Below are three takeaways from this year's edition.

1. Russell Wilson holds the record for game-winning drives through a quarterback's first four seasons.
Wilson has brought the Seahawks back 18 times since the start of 2012. Pete Carroll constantly preaches "finish" and according to the Almanac, Wilson has done his part. When the team has faltered down the stretch, it's often been the defense that's had issues.
In the fourth quarter last year, Wilson posted a passer rating of 114.8, tops in the NFL. His nine to one touchdown to interception ratio in the fourth also ranked first.
Overall, the Seahawks have been an incredibly difficult team to blow out. According to the Almanac, they've either led or been within one score in the fourth quarter of 88 consecutive games. That's the longest streak in NFL history.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I know, ya don't get it.

Dude, do you have any idea at all just how much of that sort of thing we see with Russell Wilson? He's doing things never seen before and all your dumbass can do is.....but THE PICK....just like some fucking rookie, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why is it ya totally ignore all these stats, numbers, records we see with Wilson? You never comment on anything, yep.....ya know you're full of shit.

Wilson left the college game as the all time leading passer for a season in NCAA history, walked right in took over, tied the rookie TD record and won a playoff game. THEN...won a SB, while setting more NFL records, THEN....another SB, and one record after another.

Dude, you're an idiot.

Ever hit you.....how come Wilson has been voted to five pro bowls in his six sesason career? Why is Wilson in the MVP talk? How come Wilson is always ranked high in that top 100 players thingy? And.......find me a QB highlight vido on a par with what we see with Russell Wilson, yep, it can't be done.

Just yesterday....Cowherd...."Wilson as Hall of Famer"

[Avante]

His goalpost move will be that Struggle didn't hold a clipboard for a year like Brady did, as if that matters. It's the same excuse he's used in the past when I've brought up guys like Kurt Warner.

Do you ever actually take a few minutes and check things out?

Google....Kurt Warner and actually look at his first six seasons vs Wilsons, ok? Dude, do a little homework BEFORE running your mouth, ok?

[Avante]

Love it~~~~~~~~

Wilson number two on the ALL TIME QB rating list, only Rodgers ahead of him.
TWO SB's in his first three seasons
ONLY QB to ever post 100 rating in his first two seasons
NFL record for 4th Q winning drives by a 4th year QB
Most 4th Q td passes in a season in history
NFL leader at 110.1
NFL leader 34 TD passes
Winningest QB in history after six seasons
NFL record 4000/30/500
Beat the eventual SB champs in 2016, beat the eventual SB champs in 2017
FIVE pro bowls in six seasons

Only a moron wouldn't get all that.

Tons of this sort of thing out there. I;m not the only one who gets it. BUT....I don't put him there, I put him after Brady/Rodgers/Brees/Big Ben......right here.

Is Russell Wilson The Best QB In The NFL Today?


So much of this......

The Seattle Seahawks’ resurgence began with the hiring of Pete Carroll in January of 2010, but it wasn’t until Russell Wilson was added in the third round of the 2012 NFL draft that Seattle became a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
Wilson’s rare combination of athleticism and arm talent make him a nightmare to defend. He might not be the best pure passer in the league, but he is also far from a one-dimensional running QB. Scrambling quarterbacks have had success in the NFL, but it’s frequently short-lived. Wilson’s balanced skill set makes him more difficult to game-plan against, and less susceptible to injuries.
Simply put, he belongs in the conversation with the best signal-callers in the league. In Sam Monson’s ranking of the top 100 players in the NFL right now, which will be published on PFF next week, Wilson cracks the top five among quarterbacks, edging out the likes of Drew Brees and Carson Palmer and ranking just behind guys like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
Let’s take a look at the two big reasons why he is now a top-5 NFL QB.

[140]

Jesus. With the amount of ass kissing by avante you'd think Wilson is a 11 year old Filipino kid tbh

[Ice009]

What's the most yards in a season thing? For example, Wilson, 4, 219. What do those numbers mean?

What does this stat mean that you posted earlier.

[Darth_Pelican]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/malcolm-butler-intercepts-russell-wilson-super-bowl.gif?w=500
https://i.imgur.com/MtQB34P.gif

[clambake]

Jesus. With the amount of ass kissing by avante you'd think Wilson is a 11 year old Filipino kid tbh

lol

[Raven]

Jesus. With the amount of ass kissing by avante you'd think Wilson is a 11 year old Filipino kid tbh

:lol

[UNT Eagles 2016]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/malcolm-butler-intercepts-russell-wilson-super-bowl.gif?w=500

To be fair, not RW's fault. Bevell's fault, and Carroll's fault for okaying the playcall. Wilson didn't... kill, kill... at the line. That was all on the playcalling.

Even in spite of that, if it had been a stronger and better receiver (Baldwin/Kearse?) than Lockette, it likely would've been an incomplete at worse, and more than likely a catch... score? who knows, Butler was closing fast, but at least a catch inside the one yard line or at worst, an incomplete.

[Avante]

Jesus. With the amount of ass kissing by avante you'd think Wilson is a 11 year old Filipino kid tbh

Dude, anytime I deal with total morons I like to rub it in. There is a reason Wilson has made FIVE pro bowls in six seasons and will be ranked one of the top 15ish players in the NFL for 2017 AND was in the MVP talk.

And, if you really think those bars had 11 year olds hustling drinks you're dumber that I thought.

I still can't figure out where this filipino kid came from. Why not read what was actually said, ok?

[sickdsm]

Russell Wilson was traded today.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/russell-wilson-has-been-traded-to-the-new-york-yankees-for-future-considerations/

[Avante]

What QB could beat Wilson in a decathlon?

I get this will fly over everyones head "here"

Wilson's last NCAA season....

72.8 comp %
TD/INT...33-4
QBR....................191.........an NCAA record.

In his first NFL season....26 TD's...ties NFL record and a 100 QB rating

Second season....SB win and another 100 QB rating. Nobody in history had ever had two 100 QB rating to start a pro football career.

[Avante]

The dumbest thread ever posted here was....

Tom Savage is the best QB in Texas, period.

The second was....

Should Derek Anderson replace Cam Newton.

I'm going to predict this thread will surpass both of those for being stupid. There is a reason Russell Wilson walked right in and started winning, setting NFL records, making pro bowls while Foles was thinking about retirement. In a few months the NFL players will vote on the top 100 players in the league, expect to find Russell Wilson in the top 15ish. That is how highly thought of the guy is by all of us who actually know the game. Only a total moron wouldn't see.....IT.

Watch how stupid this thread becomes over time, and yep, I will make sure it doesn't get forgotten.

Clipper Nation has proven he knows...0...about QBing.

As we all know ya cannot watch the Seahawks play and not hear the tv announces freaking out over Wilson, it's.....he's magical....only QB who can do that.....classic Russell Wilson.....the guy is amazing. So either Clipper Nation is deaf, dumb and blind or just retarded. How could anyone watch the guy play and not......WOW~~~~

I've seen them all since the late 50's, trust me on this one......Russell Wilson is amazing.

Clipper Nation....but but but Foles had a great SB.

Right there says it all, the guy too damn stupid to get...........BODY OF WORK.

Wilson has a better comp%, 64.0 to 60.1, a better QB rating by far...98.8-87.4, and Foles has a 61/29 TD/INT while Wilson at 161/56. Won't even talk rushing.

[Clipper Nation]

There is a reason Russell Wilson walked right in and started winning, setting NFL records, making pro bowls while Foles was thinking about retirement.
And that reason is Lynch and the Legion of Boom.

[Avante]

And that reason is Lynch and the Legion of Boom.

My God you're stupid.

Stupid, John Unitas had a HOF RB, WR and TE....now think ya dumb fuck, ok?

Bradshaw played with....8...other HOFers, ok?

Bart Starr played with...8...other HOFers, ok?

Dude, your level of..DUH....totally unique.

Dummy, why was Wilson in the MVP talk in 2017? Why does he hold 4/5 NFL records? Why so many pro bowls?

Dude, do you any idea at all just how many 4th Q game winning drives Russell Wilson has had to engineer, ya don't do ya?


Dude, learn the fucking game, ok rookie?

1. Russell Wilson holds the record for game-winning drives through a quarterback's first four seasons.
Wilson has brought the Seahawks back 18 times since the start of 2012. Pete Carroll constantly preaches "finish" and according to the Almanac, Wilson has done his part. When the team has faltered down the stretch, it's often been the defense that's had issues.
In the fourth quarter last year, Wilson posted a passer rating of 114.8, tops in the NFL. His nine to one touchdown to interception ratio in the fourth also ranked first.
Overall, the Seahawks have been an incredibly difficult team to blow out. According to the Almanac, they've either led or been within one score in the fourth quarter of 88 consecutive games. That's the longest

[Clipper Nation]

My God you're stupid.

Stupid, John Unitas had a HOF RB, WR and TE....now think ya dumb fuck, ok?
Stopped reading at this retarded-ass take. In Unitas' best individual season as a player, Ameche had already retired years earlier and Berry missed several games. And let's not gloss over the fact that Berry wasn't even expected to make the NFL and Unitas turned him into an HOFer.

[Avante]

I get the fact I have no business here among this level of NFL fan, yep.....oh well.

But, I do have fun with it. Here we have a poster taking .....ONE.....game and having no idea what to do with it. Nick Foles wouldn't make a zit on the butt of Russell Wilson and everyone who knows the game is well aware of that....FACT. Then there's Clipper Nation, what a fucking joke.

Mark Rypien was a SB MVP. look at the playoffs of Joe Flacco in 2012, that sort of thing should send a message. Not if you don't understand the game like Clipper Nation.

[Avante]

Stopped reading at this retarded-ass take. In Unitas' best individual season as a player, Ameche had already retired years earlier and Berry missed several games. And let's not gloss over the fact that Berry wasn't even expected to make the NFL and Unitas turned him into an HOFer.

Dude, when did Ameche become a HOFer? Talking the first great receiving RB Lenny Moore. And, let's not gloss over the fact the HOF has a slew of players there who were undrafted, cut, whatever. Hell rookie, Unitas himself was cut by the Steelers.

Why try and talk about things you know...0...about?

Dan Fouts had a 1000 yard RB in Chuck Muncie, a 1000 yard TE in Winslow, and all these 1000 yard WR....Charlie Joiner, John Jeffferson, Wes Chandler. Nobody ever.....well if not for.....

Dude, Marino had Duper/Clayton, Tony Nathan.

Dude, stop acting stupid, ok?

[Avante]

Clipper Nation, pay attention son.


You don't....SEE SEE SEE HE FUCKED UP....over some play some rookie had, ok? Ya don't do anything over a season. a game, a few games, ok guy, that is so damn rookie. You give guys/teams some time, yep, take a wait and see approach to things.

Jared Goff what a big mistake. right? What happened? Ever hear of Rookie of the Year Carl Garrett? Why not? And it goes on and on, ok?

Nick Foles has done nothing other than have a great SB, well so did Larry Brown, Timmy Smith, what happened to them?

Look how damn stupid...Tom Savage the best.....hahahaha~~~~ That happened because ya just can't figure out..........SLOW THE FUCK DOWN.

Dude, come on guy figure this shit out, ok?

Classic rookie.

Avante...check out speedster Tyreek Hill, the cat is a blurr.
Clipper Nation.....hahahahaha he muffed the punt.

The next time Hill fields a punt, 75 yards for a TD and that was two pro bowls ago, Where is the rookie Clipper Nation, hahahaha~~~~

Dude, stop trying so damn hard to make me/others look bad, ok guy? I;ve seen some football, ok little fella, I know the fucking game, got it bitch?

[Avante]

Oh yeah.....

I get the immaturity we see with Clipper Nation over Avante/ Russell Wilson, I have no doubts if I....the guy sucks....here would be CN....he's the best QB ever with just six seasons NFL experience.

How sad is that?

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, when did Ameche become a HOFer? Talking the first great receiving RB Lenny Moore. And, let's not gloss over the fact the HOF has a slew of players there who were undrafted, cut, whatever. Hell rookie, Unitas himself was cut by the Steelers.

Why try and talk about things you know...0...about?

Dan Fouts had a 1000 yard RB in Chuck Muncie, a 1000 yard TE in Winslow, and all these 1000 yard WR....Charlie Joiner, John Jeffferson, Wes Chandler. Nobody ever.....well if not for.....

Dude, Marino had Duper/Clayton, Tony Nathan.

Dude, stop acting stupid, ok?
Dan Fouts never had a defense even close to the Legion of Boom because Gene Klein was too cheap to keep defensive talent.

And are we really going to pretend that Marino had stacked teams? Marino played with a 1,000-yard rusher once ever. He only had a top-10 defense four times.

Both those guys also played in a significantly tougher era than Struggle, too. The rules were not designed to inflate quarterbacks' stats like they are today. Defenses around the league were allowed to hit people.

Comparing Struggle to Fouts and Marino is absolutely retarded. Struggle has had the luxury of managing the game on stacked teams his entire career. Stop comparing him to franchise QBs who elevated their teams.

[Avante]

Dan Fouts never had a defense even close to the Legion of Boom because Gene Klein was too cheap to keep defensive talent.

And are we really going to pretend that Marino had stacked teams? Marino played with a 1,000-yard rusher once ever. He only had a top-10 defense four times.

Both those guys also played in a significantly tougher era than Struggle, too. The rules were not designed to inflate quarterbacks' stats like they are today. Defenses around the league were allowed to hit people.

Comparing Struggle to Fouts and Marino is absolutely retarded. Struggle has had the luxury of managing the game on stacked teams his entire career. Stop comparing him to franchise QBs who elevated their teams.

Dude, YOU calling anyone retarded is above comical.

Dan Fouts had almost as many INT's 242 as he did TD 254, he had an inferior comp %, an inferior QB rating to Wilson. Fouts never had a QB ratimg above 93.3, hell Wilson's lowest QB rating is better than that. Yep, wrong as usual. And Fouts only had three 16 games seasons, he was injured a lot AND....you do not want to compare their first six seasons, trust me.

Marino had far better receivers than Wilson ever had, and if ya knew the game you'd know that.

Do you work at....DUH....or does it just come natural?

Why is it you just act like ya don't see....


Is Russell Wilson The Best QB In The NFL Today?


So much of this......

The Seattle Seahawks’ resurgence began with the hiring of Pete Carroll in January of 2010, but it wasn’t until Russell Wilson was added in the third round of the 2012 NFL draft that Seattle became a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
Wilson’s rare combination of athleticism and arm talent make him a nightmare to defend. He might not be the best pure passer in the league, but he is also far from a one-dimensional running QB. Scrambling quarterbacks have had success in the NFL, but it’s frequently short-lived. Wilson’s balanced skill set makes him more difficult to game-plan against, and less susceptible to injuries.
Simply put, he belongs in the conversation with the best signal-callers in the league. In Sam Monson’s ranking of the top 100 players in the NFL right now, which will be published on PFF next week, Wilson cracks the top five among quarterbacks, edging out the likes of Drew Brees and Carson Palmer and ranking just behind guys like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.
Let’s take a look at the two big reasons why he is now a top-5 NFL QB.

[Avante]

Anyone ever notice how facts means ...0....to Clipper Nation? The dude wanders around in a fantasy world all his very own yep.....weird.

The cat totally ignores...NFL records...NFL firsts....Pro Bowls...League leading stats....what everyone who knows the games says. To stupid to realize Troy Aikman had a RB, Jim Kelly had a RB, Joe Montana had a RB, Kurt Warner had a RB, Peyton Manning had a RB, and on and on.............

Notice how the freak just ignores all this.....


1. Russell Wilson holds the record for game-winning drives through a quarterback's first four seasons.
Wilson has brought the Seahawks back 18 times since the start of 2012. Pete Carroll constantly preaches "finish" and according to the Almanac, Wilson has done his part. When the team has faltered down the stretch, it's often been the defense that's had issues.
In the fourth quarter last year, Wilson posted a passer rating of 114.8, tops in the NFL. His nine to one touchdown to interception ratio in the fourth also ranked first.
Overall, the Seahawks have been an incredibly difficult team to blow out. According to the Almanac, they've either led or been within one score in the fourth quarter of 88 consecutive games. That's the longest

[Avante]

After the NFL players rank Wilson one of the top 15 players in the league, we will see nothing from CN. But if he weren't ranked.....SEE SEE SEE THE PLYERS KNOWS HE SUCKS.

That's how the little shit operates.

I can see it now.....

Committee honcho....ok, so do we put Terry Bradshaw in the Hall?
Clipper Nation, ...HELL NO, he had Mike Webster, Stallworth, Swann, Franco Harris, THE STEEL CURTAIN, Lambert, Ham and Mel Blount. If not for them he ain't shit.

Ok, so he's out. How about Bart Starr?
Clipper Nation...WHAT???????. he had Forrest Gregg, Jerry Kramer, Jim Taylor, Paul Hornung, Willie Davis, Ray Nitschke, Wille Wood, Herb Adderley, without them he ain't shit.

So unless a QB plays on a shit team.......................

[Clipper Nation]

Dan Fouts had almost as many INT's 242 as he did TD 254, he had an inferior comp %, an inferior QB rating to Wilson. Fouts never had a QB ratimg above 93.3, hell Wilson's lowest QB rating is better than that. Yep, wrong as usual. And Fouts only had three 16 games seasons, he was injured a lot AND....you do not want to compare their first six seasons, trust me.
Again, Fouts played in an era where the rules weren't designed to inflate quarterbacks' stats. His worst years for interceptions were 1979 and 1980 with 24 each. He didn't even lead the league in INTs in either of those years. It was tougher to play QB back then and there's really no argument to the contrary.

Joe Montana threw more interceptions than Struggle in his first six years as a starter. He also had a worse passer rating than Struggle in his first six years as a starter. Yet nobody with a brain would ever seriously argue that Struggle is better than Montana. Of course, you probably will now because you're that invested in pretending Struggle is anything more than a game manager on a stacked team.


Marino had far better receivers than Wilson ever had, and if ya knew the game you'd know that.
Far better? No way. Marino only ever had three Pro Bowl receivers in his entire career. He never had a HOF wide receiver. Again, stop pretending that Marino had stacked teams when he didn't. And quit acting like Struggle hasn't had guys like Doug Baldwin, Jimmy Graham, and Paul Richardson.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

RW is amazing still a lot of the time but the pick! definitely demoted him from impeccable god-tier to human.

[Avante]

Again, Fouts played in an era where the rules weren't designed to inflate quarterbacks' stats. His worst years for interceptions were 1979 and 1980 with 24 each. He didn't even lead the league in INTs in either of those years. It was tougher to play QB back then and there's really no argument to the contrary.

Joe Montana threw more interceptions than Struggle in his first six years as a starter. He also had a worse passer rating than Struggle in his first six years as a starter. Yet nobody with a brain would ever seriously argue that Struggle is better than Montana. Of course, you probably will now because you're that invested in pretending Struggle is anything more than a game manager on a stacked team.


Far better? No way. Marino only ever had three Pro Bowl receivers in his entire career. He never had a HOF wide receiver. Again, stop pretending that Marino had stacked teams when he didn't. And quit acting like Struggle hasn't had guys like Doug Baldwin, Jimmy Graham, and Paul Richardson.

What do you think when ya see Wilson in another pro bowl? How about when the players vote him among the top 20 players in the league? What do you think when ya hear all those TV people raving about the guy? Why do I with all my experience rave about the guy?

Dude, you had Derek Anderson over Newton, ya had Savage over Watson, you go on and on about Flacco.

When does it hit you that ya simply do not understand any of this, what....never?

Russell Wilson is a great/elite QB if you can't see that it's because you're stupid, yep, just that simple.


I get you're into...I'll just bug Avante....being immature but don't look stupid doing it, ok? Only a know nothing wouldn't see the greatness of Russell Wilson. Dude, I see you as a know nothing, and you prove it constanly. Why I waste time on your dumb ass...???

Stupid, sometime later the NFL players will vote on who they see as the best players in the NFL, how will you explain away a 15ish ranking for Wilson? You posted a thread about what a receiver thought about his QB, yep....Tom Savage. You will totally ignore Wilson's high ranking, you have to.

You don't get the game guy.

[Avante]

Imagine taking up Derek Anderson, Tom Savage and Joe Flacco while running down Cam Newton, Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson, what does that tell us?

Take a few minutes and Google how the combined careers of Anderson, Savage and Flacco stack up vs Russell Wilson.

[Clipper Nation]

Avante takes those top 100 lists far more seriously than anyone else, including the players who vote on them. I've never seen anyone else use those in an argument.

[Avante]

Avante takes those top 100 lists far more seriously than anyone else, including the players who vote on them. I've never seen anyone else use those in an argument.

That coming from a guy talking about skills competition at the ......pro bowl...???? Now there is some serious shit there.

Dude, there is no doubt if Wilson wasn't ranked or ranked 96, it would be.....see see see even the players know he's just so so....and we all know it. Being the guy is ranked high it must be...nobody takes this seriously. BUT.....boy those pro bowl skills competition is taken seriously.,...hahahahaha~~~~~~

And it is the combination of....NFL records, winning, leading the NFL stats, pro bowls and.....always ranked high by the players.

[Clipper Nation]

That coming from a guy talking about skills competition at the ......pro bowl...???? Now there is some serious shit there.

Dude, there is no doubt if Wilson wasn't ranked or ranked 96, it would be.....see see see even the players know he's just so so....and we all know it. Being the guy is ranked high it must be...nobody takes this seriously. BUT.....boy those pro bowl skills competition is taken seriously.,...hahahahaha~~~~~~

And it is the combination of....NFL records, winning, leading the NFL stats, pro bowls and.....always ranked high by the players.
That's 8 talking.

[Avante]

That's 8 talking.

This season Wilson will be ranked in the top 15 players in the NFL, and he was in the MVP talk. He's been in five pro bowls in a six season career. Doesn't any of that register with you, are you really this far gone to not get it? You really don't hear/read.....boy this Russell Wilson is special.....really?

I get your need to be a little pest/punk, but don't look like a fucking retard doing it, ok little man?

Dude, why do you totally ignore the fact I've seen a lot of QB's since the late 50's and know what I'm talking about? You really can't see the experience?

[Avante]

You said....

Point God http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/image.php?u=28500&dateline=1508292525 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)Post Count49,248...be this fucking awful at a precision passing competition?


And if he'd had won this you would have said nothing. That's you.

So the pro bowl is serious but not the players rankings, right?

You have low rent ways guy and it sucks.

My fav....

Me...check out speedster Tyreek Hill.
You....hahahaha he muffed the punt.

Then after that....ZOOOOOOOMMMM TOUCHDOWN~~~~~~~~

No....yep, ya nailed it Avante. It's.........................nothing.

Ya suck guy, ok?

All the TV guys, all the players, all the knowledgeable fans see the greatness in Russell Wilson, only a guy who.....TOM SAVAGE THE BEST QB IN TEXAS, PERIOD......hahahahaha~~~~~~~~ Dude, ya don't know shit, ok?

You ever actually looked at the career numbers of Derek Anderson? The guy sits on a bench because he sucks, but you.......they need to start Anderson over Cam Newton......hahahaha~~~~~~~ Nobody should be this damn stupid, it shoud be illegal.

Sometime next season you are going to see just how damn stupid this thread was, wait and see.

Dude, if ya really understood the game and gave legit reasons that made sense it would be different but it's never like that with you, it's all a bunch of stupid bullshit that never makes any sense at all.

[Avante]

A couple seasons ago Wilson was the MVP of the Pro Bow, it was........hahahhaha the pro bowl?????????? Now it's....he sucked in the pro bowl skills......see how it works?

And....

Only rookies ignore a players history/body of work, for a play, a game. Nothing says....I'M A ROOKIE...more than making too big a deal of Wilsons SB INT/Foles SB.

[Spurtacular]

Listen to Avante. He can name players from the 50's. He knows what he's talking about.

[Avante]

Listen to Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483). He can name players from the 50's. He knows what he's talking about.

Well let's see.....


You can take your car ro Coolie Jones Auto Repair, they have been in business since last March or ya can go to Bobine Motors, which as been working on cars since 1954.

Dude, nothing beats experience.

OR....

Ya can just go with this.

Russell Wilson the winningest QB in their first six seasons in history.
NFL record....most TD passes in the 4th Q in a season in history.
NFL record....4000/30/500 (came within 17 yards of having the second in 2017)
Only QB in history to have two 100 QB rating seaeons to start their career
Five time pro bowl in first six seasons
SB winner
One yard away from winning two SB in first three seasons
Led the NFL with a 110.1 QB rating
Led the NFL with 34 TD's in 2017

There is no QB in history who had a more impressive first six seasons over Russell Wilson. If talking wins, records, stats.

And sometime in 2018 when it will become real obvious Nick Foles isn't all that so this thread will look like all the rest of Clipper Nations threads, yep...stupid.

And, sometime soon the NFL players will vote on the top 100 players in the league (Wilson 17 in 2016) look for Wilson (MVP talk) to be ranked in the top 15.

And, Avante can talk players from the 20's, so get it right. Imagine a 126 pound pro footballer.

[Avante]

Here it is year six for Russell Wilson. How can anyone not get this?

NFL records, think about that.....NFL Records.

NFL firsts.

Nobody has ever won more games.

FIVE...pro bowls.

SB Champion.

Only a 100% know nothing would fail to see....IT.

Here we have a fantastic talent, I see it and I've seen them all since Johnny U.


How stupid is this....

Dummy....but Avante, Nick Foles had a great SB.

Hard to believe we actualy have posters with that lack of understandings of the game.

[Avante]

This is how damn stupid Clipper Nation realy is, he said this about Nick Foles

He's better than Struggle.

How dumb is that?

Does this guy know anything at all about the game? Where does he get this stupid crap at? Tom Savage is not the best QB in Texas, that's why he's now in Louisiana. Derek Anderson is not better than Cam Newton, that's why he had more INT's than TD's. Talking up Joe Flacco??? Running down the great Peyton Manning and now this stupid bullshit, fucking....rookie.

Last season Foles competed less than 60% of his passes, he had less than a 90 QB rating. There is nothing anywhere that even hints at this back up being better than Russell Wilson.

My bad, Anderson is actually 60/60 TD/INT, hahahaha~~~~

[Avante]

Russell Wilson had ANOTHER pro bowl season, he led the NFL in TD passes, he was in the MVP talk, he was just voted the number 11 best player in the NFL by the players, oh hell yes...............trade him.....hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~

Clipper Nation knows....0....about QB's.

[Clipper Nation]

Russell Wilson had ANOTHER pro bowl season, he led the NFL in TD passes, he was in the MVP talk, he was just voted the number 11 best player in the NFL by the players, oh hell yes...............trade him.....hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~

Clipper Nation knows....0....about QB's.

That's cute. Nick Foles is a Super Bowl MVP. Can Struggle say the same?

[SpursforSix]

That's cute. Nick Foles is a Super Bowl MVP. Can Struggle say the same?

He was the MVP for the Patriots in 2015.

[Avante]

That's cute. Nick Foles is a Super Bowl MVP. Can Struggle say the same?

Little man...STOP IT...ok? Cool this stupid...one game....one play...one season....bullshit, you have going, ok dummy?

BODY OF WORK....BODY OF WORK....got that amigo, ya look at what a guy has done over a period of time, ok rookie?

Remember Timmy Smith, the cat looked like Jim Brown/Gale Sayers combined in that SB, right? Then what happened?

Dude, Nick Foles wouldn't make a zit on the butt of Russell...11th ranked player in the NFL... Wilson's butt, and only a know nothing like you wouldn't get that fact.

[Avante]

He was the MVP for the Patriots in 2015.

Three seasons and two SB's. Think...ok?

[Avante]

Nick Foles vs Mack Monday night...think about that.

Watch how this...he's better than Wilson....because a huge, hahahahaha~~~

[Clipper Nation]

Nick Foles vs Mack Monday night...think about that.
Struggle Wilson vs. the one-yard line in the Super Bowl....think about that.

[Avante]

Struggle Wilson vs. the one-yard line in the Super Bowl....think about that.

Key words.....ANOTHER SUPER BOWL.

Dude, watch what happens to Nick Foles, yep another one of your DUH threads about something you know...0..about....QB's.

Tell us again about Joe "INT" Flacco, hahahaha~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

Key words.....ANOTHER SUPER BOWL.
All thanks to Lynch and the defense.


Dude, watch what happens to Nick Foles, yep another one of your DUH threads about something you know...0..about....QB's.

Tell us again about Joe "INT" Flacco, hahahaha~~~~~
Two Super Bowl MVPs who didn't shit the bed on the one-yard line.

[Avante]

All thanks to Lynch and the defense.


Two Super Bowl MVPs who didn't shit the bed on the one-yard line.

Two SB MVP's who wouldn't make a zit on RW's butt and everybody who knows football knows that.

Do you have any idea at all how many 4th quarter drives it took for the Seahawks to make those SB's? How many times RW had to bring them back? You don;t have a clue do ya?

Dude, bone up on this stuff stop acting stupid, ok? Tom Savage? Derek Anderson? Tyreek Hil? Struggle? Joe Flacco?....come on rookie.

What about this don't you get?


Seahawks' Russell Wilson sets record for fourth-quarter comebacks

[Avante]

According to the NFL players Russell Wilson is the 11th best player in the NFL.

According to a guy with over 50 years of following pro football, it's...

Rodgers/Brady
Brees

We can debate Wilson/Big Ben

Wilson hold 4/5 NFL records/firsts.

Unlike Rogers/Brady he walked right in and took over.

5 pro bowls


How could anyone with even half a brain see that as a....Struggle?

Russell Wilson has put together the best first six seasons ever seen. If ya don't believe that find someone who did it better, ya can't.

Nick Foles.....hahahahahaha~~~~~

[JohnnyZ]

Seattle should trade for Foles?

Really?



Russell Wilson (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/154904/russell-wilson) is 41-12 at home with a passer rating of 103.6. This season at home he’s got 16 touchdowns and just one interception with a rating of 127.9. ***************Only Tom Brady has won more games at home than Wilson since 2012.
In December, Wilson is 20-8 with a*********** rating of 103.3, the highest December rating in NFL history. ***************Only Brady has won more December games since 2012, while six more December touchdowns than any other player in that time.
At home in December, Wilson has 35 touchdowns and eight interceptions with a rating of 106.3. **************Only Aaron Rodgers has a higher December passer rating at home in that time.
Wilson is 6-2 on Monday night with 16 touchdowns and two interceptions.****************He has the highest career passer rating in Monday Night Football history at 111.8, among all QBs with at least 150 attempts. Move it down to 100 and only Colin Kaepernick (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/130799/colin-kaepernick) has a higher MNF rating.
Wilson is 3-0 against the Vikings with eight touchdowns, no interceptions, and a rating of 142. It’s his highest rating against any team in the NFL with at least two starts. He also has a rushing touchdown against Minnesota.
The last time Seattle need a home win on Monday night in December, Wilson threw three touchdowns and no interceptions in a 34-7 rout against the New Orleans Saints (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-orleans-saints), a team that was 9-2 prior to that loss.
Wilson has a passer rating of 103.5 against the NFC North, the highest he has against any NFC division by a good margin, and he’s only faced the NFC West more often.
He is 20-5-1 in primetime.

Why fight it people, we are witnessing something real special here in Russell Wilson.

NFL (https://www.foxsportsasia.com/american-football/nfl/) | November 17, 2018
Colin Cowherd believes Russell Wilson should ‘absolutely’ be mentioned with Aaron Rodgers

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[benefactor]

Why are you up at 1 in the morning on a Wednesday digging up threads that CN made about Wilson? Oh yeah...because fat and alone.

[Will Hunting]

Why are you up at 1 in the morning on a Wednesday digging up threads that CN made about Wilson? Oh yeah...because fat and alone.
:lmao

[Darth_Pelican]

Why are you up at 1 in the morning on a Wednesday digging up threads that CN made about Wilson? Oh yeah...because fat and alone.

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[JohnnyZ]

Why are you up at 1 in the morning on a Wednesday digging up threads that CN made about Wilson? Oh yeah...because fat and alone.

I have made it very clear I have seven passions....

Them blues
The rasslin'
Judy
Bodybuilding
Literature
Track
Football

Yesterday I hit my workout, read 30 pages Texas Tough, watched Smackdown/New Japan, read some old Track & Field News (71) Took care of Judy's needs and started working on my week 14 NFL picks, as I listen to Wildchild Butler blow that harmonica.

Who has the best MNF record?
Who has the best points scored/points given up situation?
How do Wilson and.,..................hold it, didn't CN say something about how Struggle sucks so long and hard he should be replaced by Nick Foles?

You asked.


Here's what will happen Monday night

Wilson will fumble.

posters....,hahahaha sruggle

Wilson will over throw a wide open receiver.

posters....hahahahaha that fucking struggle.

Wilson will throw a stupid pick.

posters...HAHAHAHAHA the guy SUCKS~

Then here comes the 4th Q down 13.

Wilson hits Baldwin with a perfect throw for 45

He hits Locket with a WOW toss for 32...TD

posters...got lucky

The D picks off Cousins

Wilson hits a 26 yard out to Moore

Wilson hits Lockett on a crossing pattern for 20

TV guys....the guy is simply magic

posters....ok ok a decent throw.

Wilson scrambles around for a good 10 seconds making everyone miss, then....a long pass to Lockett TOUCHDOWN.

Seattle wins.

TV guys....the guy is simply remarkable.

Posters....................nothing.

CN.....where is Nick Foles when ya need him?

me..............little people slow the fuck down and........................................

everybody.....that JohnnyZ knows too fucking much what a prick.

[JohnnyZ]

Russell Wilson left the college game as the all time passing efficency leader for a season.

His rookie season he ties the rookie TD record 26 (Peyton)

His second season he wins the SB.

That is struggling?

He has about a dozen firsts. NFL records, never seen before moments in his young career.

That is strugging?

BUT ...he had BEASTMODE, THE LEGION OF BOOM.

Well he doesn't have them now and is having his best season and will be making another playoff run. He is in that MVP conversation just like he was last season,

So to all you rookies out there who obviously don't get it, live and learn.

This will be funny....

The Seahawks aren't going to the SB and neither are 30 other teams, so when they do lose...........that fucking Struggle, hahahahaha~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

Why are you up at 1 in the morning on a Wednesday digging up threads that CN made about Wilson? Oh yeah...because fat and alone.
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[JohnnyZ]

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Ok ok ok ok ok...I was wrong about Derek Anderson, Tyreek Hill, Tom Savage, Nick Foles, Nick Chubb, and yes.....Russell Wilson. What can I say but....faggot faggot faggot.

[JohnnyZ]

What a struggle and no BEASTMODE/LEGION OF BOOM


Russell Wilson tied for fourth in odds for 2018 NFL MVP

[JohnnyZ]

I have to deal with all this bullshit hassle simply because I know the game, why not cool the crap and pick up on a few things, I would.

How fucking lame is this.......but we are all younguns here more into giggle,calling each other faggot, fart and scratch our nuts than be bugged with history anything deep, that is annoying.

[Clipper Nation]

translation

Ok ok ok ok ok...I was wrong about Derek Anderson, Tyreek Hill, Tom Savage, Nick Foles, Nick Chubb, and yes.....Russell Wilson. What can I say but....faggot faggot faggot.


What a struggle and no BEASTMODE/LEGION OF BOOM


Russell Wilson tied for fourth in odds for 2018 NFL MVP



I have to deal with all this bullshit hassle simply because I know the game, why not cool the crap and pick up on a few things, I would.

How fucking lame is this.......but we are all younguns here more into giggle,calling each other faggot, fart and scratch our nuts than be bugged with history anything deep, that is annoying.

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[JohnnyZ]

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I ran my big mouth and was wrong about everything, yep, stupid.

[benefactor]

Didn't read any of your expected meltdown.

:lol 1am ST searches
:lol old forever alone faggot
:lol banned multiple times
:lol craving negative attention
:lol that's the only way people will interact with you
:lol because unattractive and unlikable

[JohnnyZ]

This from your thread..............FUCK EVERYTHING


I'm going to get blind drunk now. See you guys on the other side



Oh hell yes you're a real winner ya fucking drunk. Dude, shut the fuck up?




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[benefactor]

You can have that. I'll keep rolling with this:


:lol 1am ST searches
:lol old forever alone faggot
:lol banned multiple times
:lol craving negative attention
:lol that's the only way people will interact with you
:lol because unattractive and unlikable

[JohnnyZ]

You can have that. I'll keep rolling with this:

Dude, the thing is this...............................you are boring as fuck, ok slugger? All ya ever do is wahwahwahwimper.

[benefactor]

For the hundredth time, your capitulation is duly noted

[JohnnyZ]

For the hundredth time, your capitulation is duly noted

Check out my bench press and dumbbells in my Fortress thread.