Stein: Spurs Have Emerged as as Trade Suitor for Avery Bradley

[BatManu20]

961454125325144064

961454516293046272

[dabom]

Bye fathead.

[Rocalcio]

Bye fathead.


Doubt that.

[mo7888]

8 million in salary coming in, so who goes out that makes that?

[bklynspursfan]

:wakeup

[SpurPadre]

This isn't happening. Stein just trying to make some noise.

[bklynspursfan]

961456249937285120

[Budkin]

Fathead and Mills?

[MoSpur02]

Patty’s hair gets on my damn nerves

[marinoman]

Why? He sux

[DPG21920]

8 million in salary coming in, so who goes out that makes that?

Mills/Danny/Rudy.

I’m not sure what LAC’s luxury tax situation is but Mills for Bradley works but I doubt LAC does that if it puts them in luxury tax.

[BatManu20]

Would love Bradley on this team (he'd be great against teams like GSW and HOU), but don't want to give up that 1st-Round pick that's likely going to be in the low-mid 20's.

[MoSpur02]

I trust Stein more than Jabari Young

[TheDoctor]

This isn't happening. Stein just trying to make some noise.

More like the Clippers tbh

[DPG21920]

Fathead and Mills?

I don’t think Bradley can be traded with another player. So I doubt LAC can take on that much salary. Mills makes almost 2M more than Bradley alone.

[DPG21920]

Would love Bradley on this team (he'd be great against teams like GSW and HOU), but don't want to give up that 1st-Round pick that's likely going to be in the low 20's.

spurs are currently projected to pick 26th. And Kawhi and Rudy will likely be coming back.

[BatManu20]

961454893281300480

961455315484008449

[MoSpur02]

Hopefully Patty Mills is going out. I thought the Clippers were wanting a 1st round pick. I don’t see the Spurs giving that up.

[SpurPadre]

More like the Clippers tbh

That too. It makes no kind of sense to us or them, really.

[mo7888]

Fathead and Mills?

I could see fathead and mills for Bradley and Johnson. Have to break into 2 trades because of cba rules.

[Chucho]

Patty’s hair gets on my damn nerves

Yup.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Avery Bradley has had a horrible season but the Spurs can’t get any worse

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UidcTWnRHQ

[BatManu20]

This isn't happening. Stein just trying to make some noise.

More like AB's agent trying to garner more interest for his client. Teams often do that with the Spurs.

[MoSpur02]

If only Pau Gasol played defense half as good as his passing skills

[SpurPadre]

More like AB's agent trying to garner more interest for his client. Teams often do that with the Spurs.

Yeah. Nothing to see here.

[TheDoctor]

If only Pau Gasol played defense half as good as his passing skills

Wrong thread homie.

[BatManu20]

spurs are currently projected to pick 26th. And Kawhi and Rudy will likely be coming back.

We also have the hardest remaining schedule and who knows if/when Kawhi is coming back. That 1st-round pick is an asset. Not saying I wouldn't trade it for the right deal, just saying I'd hate to see it go.

[coachmac87]

Avery Bradley has had a horrible season but the Spurs can’t get any worse

You’re such a twat

[tholdren]

Bradley isnt even an upgrade from forbes

[Mr. Body]

Yes!! We need more point guards!!

[Darius Bieber]

I can see this work if we trade Mills to them. Otherwise we'd be way too guard heavy. Look at our rotations in the front court. Bertans-Gasol-Aldridge. That's abysmal.

[DAF86]

Would love Bradley on this team (he'd be great against teams like GSW and HOU), but don't want to give up that 1st-Round pick that's likely going to be in the low-mid 20's.

If we can dump the Mills contract, I think it would be worth it to give up that pick. How many late first rounders end up working anyway?

[Atl Spur]

Bradley isnt even an upgrade from forbes

Are you trolling? You can’t be serious ......... right?

[tholdren]

If we can dump the Mills contract, I think it would be worth it to give up that pick. How many late first rounders end up working anyway?

Bad move.

[BatManu20]

961458282530406401

[tholdren]

Are you trolling? You can’t be serious ......... right? similar per bryn shoots better. What am i missing? Nothing....

[BatManu20]

I can see this work if we trade Mills to them. Otherwise we'd be way too guard heavy. Look at our rotations in the front court. Bertans-Gasol-Aldridge. That's abysmal.

Clips would never take on Mills' deal... they want assets aka draft picks, not over-inflated contracts that will hinder their flexibility going forward.

[MoSpur02]

Wouldn’t make sense to let Green go since he’s a FA at the end of the season. I would attach a 1st rounder if they agreed to take Mills

[Mr. Body]

961458282530406401

Fuck, he stole somebody's hand.

[DPG21920]

Maybe LAC would like Mills. They have Bev and just signed Lou to a great deal. Bradley is due a raise and they don’t want to pay him. Trade him for Mills and a first round pick. Then in the Summer, move Lou who has a great deal for another first.

You have no more log jam, a little more money for Mills but 2 extra first round picks for your troubles.

[Emperor]

Even though he has struggled this season, would still rather see him guard Curry instead of seeing Mills try.

[objective]

If we can dump the Mills contract, I think it would be worth it to give up that pick. How many late first rounders end up working anyway?

Absolutely.

They will have to give up a first to get off the Mills deal eventually, better sooner than later.

I'm in for Mills and a first, easy.

Of course, Jerry West could be playing the Will Perdue/Monty Williams maneuver: get a bench scrub who knows the star player to entice him and make him feel comfortable, except Kawhi instead of Duncan

Fine with me

Mills was an undefendable deal and the Spurs should suffer for it

[bklynspursfan]

Fuck, he stole somebody's hand.

:lol

That defense

[Atl Spur]

similar per bryn shoots better. What am i missing? Nothing....

Defense & Confidence/Experience to start.

[SpurPadre]

Even if the Bradley rumor were true, the Murray injury negates any chance Patty would be involved in a deal.

[Keepin' it real]

961458282530406401


Fuck, he stole somebody's hand.

That's some Addams Family stuff there! Thing!

[objective]

Even if the Bradley rumor were true, the Murray injury negates any chance Patty would be involved in a deal.

I wouldn't think so. If it's just a sprain, they have the all Star break, they have Manu, they have Forbes who ran point, they have White, they have Kyle.

[DAF86]

Even if the Bradley rumor were true, the Murray injury negates any chance Patty would be involved in a deal.

Wasn't Bradley originally a PG? Anyway, if Murray is hurt you just put Tony back on the starting lineup and have Manu be the PG of the bench, like he has always been.

You don't back off of a trade that will bring long term improvement because of a short term injury.

[dabom]

Patty is better than this bum.

[SpurPadre]

Wasn't Bradley originally a PG? Anyway, if Murray is hurt you just put Tony back on the starting lineup and have Manu be the PG of the bench, like he has always been.

You don't back off of a trade that will bring long term improvement because of a short term injury.

I wouldn't back off but PATFO may very well do so.

[DPG21920]

Patty is better than this bum.

No he’s not. But even if they were equal Mills money isn’t needed

[lmbebo]

I don't see this trade happening.

Stanley Johnson seems more likely. Not sure that happens either.

[DPG21920]

Yes!! We need more point guards!!

SA can use younger/more athletic guards. But giving a guard up with long-term money (Mills) for a more versatile guard with an expiring contract (Bradley) helps free up playing time for best players, gets you a good look at a better player and gives you much more flexibility for the off season.

[dabom]

No he’s not. But even if they were equal Mills money isn’t needed

Porker hasn't been needed these past few years. :lmao

[Down Under]

He's going to walk, is no longer a good defender & has never been a great shooter. Probably wouldn't be a great move.

[DAF86]

He's going to walk, is no longer a good defender & has never been a great shooter. Probably wouldn't be a great move.

Even if all that is true. Freeing the cap space is still worth it.

[TheDoctor]

He's going to walk, is no longer a good defender & has never been a great shooter. Probably wouldn't be a great move.

If we can dump 50Mills' contract it is.

[MoSpur02]

Attach Gasol and Mills and bring in Bradley and Jordan.

[DPG21920]

Porker hasn't been needed these past few years. :lmao

Parker is an expiring contract.

[DPG21920]

He's going to walk, is no longer a good defender & has never been a great shooter. Probably wouldn't be a great move.

A late first is worth dumping Mills and the cost would not get any cheaper by waiting.

[Ice009]

Attach Gasol and Mills and bring in Bradley and Jordan.

Ooh, now you've piqued my interest. If you could dump both in one shot, that would be amazing!

[DPG21920]

Ooh, now you've piqued my interest. If you could dump both in one shot, that would be amazing!

I can’t see LAC doing that. Jordan is expiring and they definitely want his salary gone. They would get the first just by taking Mills. No need to take on more salary with Pau for Jordan and not get any more picks.

[Chinook]

I don’t think Bradley can be traded with another player. So I doubt LAC can take on that much salary. Mills makes almost 2M more than Bradley alone.

LAC can do it as separate trades. Two min deals could match Kyle's salary, and due CBA rules, Paul could go over to balance the rosters without counting as traded salary.

[DPG21920]

LAC can do it as separate trades. Two min deals could match Kyle's salary, and due CBA rules, Paul could go over to balance the rosters without counting as traded salary.

Ya - I mentioned the concurrent trades things so should not be an obstacle.

[Ice009]

I can’t see LAC doing that. Jordan is expiring and they definitely want his salary gone. They would get the first just by taking Mills. No need to take on more salary with Pau for Jordan and not get any more picks.

Neither do I, but a trade like that would make me almost as excited as winning the Championship. It's a pipe dream for sure, but getting rid of both those contracts in one fell swoop with be incredible.

[DPG21920]

LAC can do it as separate trades. Two min deals could match Kyle's salary, and due CBA rules, Paul could go over to balance the rosters without counting as traded salary.

Maybe Mills + first for Bradley.

Then Dekker/Harrell for Forbes or Bertans? Keeps LAC under luxury tax.

[TheDoctor]

LAC can do it as separate trades. Two min deals could match Kyle's salary, and due CBA rules, Paul could go over to balance the rosters without counting as traded salary.
Drop your Pina Colada and make this happen Rolando Carmela Buford.

[baseline bum]

Please Fifty for Bradley's expiring.

[Ice009]

Please Fifty for Bradley's expiring.

That guy in your avatar is willing to go to jail to make this trade happen.

[MoSpur02]

Gasol would love to go back to L.A. Make it happen.

[Ice009]

Gasol would love to go back to L.A. Make it happen.

I would love for him to go back too.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'd hate for the Spurs to give the 1st round pick for someone they likely won't be able to re-sign.

[DPG21920]

I'd hate for the Spurs to give the 1st round pick for someone they likely won't be able to re-sign.

What about to dump Mills money and give them an easier path to flexibility

[Ice009]

I'd hate for the Spurs to give the 1st round pick for someone they likely won't be able to re-sign.

Can you get out of the Mills contract without giving up a first, though? Is that possible? I don't think it is.

[DPG21920]

I'd hate for the Spurs to give the 1st round pick for someone they likely won't be able to re-sign.

Also, without Mills money, they could give Bradley that money. They would have his rights from my understanding.

[baseline bum]

I'd hate for the Spurs to give the 1st round pick for someone they likely won't be able to re-sign.

To get out of Fifty's contract it would be worth it.

[SpurPadre]

I'd hate for the Spurs to give the 1st round pick for someone they likely won't be able to re-sign.

Why, drafting another Derrick White type talent is too risky to give up?

[ace3g]

Take this with a grain of salt (back in January)

954042105885876224

961471298340839424

[vy65]

Too good to be true

[Big Empty]

As long as the pick is lottery protected.

[Ice009]

Pull the trigger, squeeze it, do whatever with that trigger.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

What about to dump Mills money and give them an easier path to flexibility


Can you get out of the Mills contract without giving up a first, though? Is that possible? I don't think it is.

I see no reason whatsoever for the Clippers to want Patty's contract. I think they'll end up trading Bradley for another expiring and a 2nd round pick or two.

[DPG21920]

I see no reason whatsoever for the Clippers to want Patty's contract. I think they'll end up trading Bradley for another expiring and a 2nd round pick or two.

They may not want Mills contract but they do want first round picks which aren’t easy to come by

[Amuseddaysleeper]

We also have the hardest remaining schedule and who knows if/when Kawhi is coming back. That 1st-round pick is an asset. Not saying I wouldn't trade it for the right deal, just saying I'd hate to see it go.

Exactly, Spurs are only 5 games out of a playoff spot.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Take this with a grain of salt (back in January)

954042105885876224

961471298340839424

Would be awesome if true

[Clipper Nation]

They may not want Mills contract but they do want first round picks which aren’t easy to come by
We don't have to trade Bradley at all, tbh. We'd be better off letting him walk than taking that 50 Mills contract.

[Ice009]

Sounds like the Spurs would be looking to re-sign him if they can get a trade done for him. Sounds like they might be even be willing to let other players walk like maybe Green if they can get him.

If they can get Bradley, they should also look at trading Green somewhere.

[DPG21920]

We don't have to trade Bradley at all, tbh. We'd be better off letting him walk than taking that 50 Mills contract.

Nah - disagree. If you get a first for Blake. First for Bradley, then move Lou later for a first? You won’t have a lot of salary to worry about with DJ gone after that and so many firsts. It’s a great way to rebuild.

[DPG21920]

Sounds like the Spurs would be looking to re-sign him if they can get a trade done for him. Sounds like they might be even be willing to let other players walk like maybe Green if they can get him.

If they can get Bradley, they should also look at trading Green somewhere.

Just give him Mills money.

[Ice009]

We don't have to trade Bradley at all, tbh. We'd be better off letting him walk than taking that 50 Mills contract.

You will take that 50Mills contract. You need culture over there.

[lmbebo]

To get out of Fifty's contract it would be worth it.


its what the spurs did to get rid of RJ ...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They may not want Mills contract but they do want first round picks which aren’t easy to come by

Still, late 1st round picks don't cost $37 mil or whatever's left on Patty's deal. If they want him, it'd be great, but they'll easily get a better offer I suppose.

[vy65]

I couldn’t think of a better place to have no pressure than with the Clippers during a rebuild.

You fucking earned it you fat lazy fuck you ...

[DPG21920]

Still, late 1st round picks don't cost $37 mil or whatever's left on Patty's deal. If they want him, it'd be great, but they'll easily get a better offer I suppose.

It’s not that simple of math. You have to look at the future. Picks are hard to get. They will need to spend some money anyways. With Jordan gone and possible other trades in the future Mills money may be money they are spending anyways is what I’m saying.

Is it a slam dunk? No. But for an expiring contract getting a first rounder is damn hard.

[DPG21920]

LAC if they let Jordan walk, in 19/20 has like no money on the books.

[TheDoctor]

You will take that 50Mills contract. You need culture over there.

Hahahahaha

[DeRozan m8]

Send Danny Green and Fathead for him

[cd021]

Amin Elhausen has a well respected theory about how Doc Rivers makes decisions.

1. Did the player play for me before?
If not then:
2. Did player play well against me?

Mills shot 57% on 3s in that 2015 series so that might be the have an impact on the trade discussion :lol

[SpurPadre]

Send Danny Green and Fathead for him

No, LDN's defense on Curry and Thompson is too important.

[DPG21920]

Murray/Bradley/Danny/Kawhi/LMA

[dabom]

Let's trade our best pg for a bum. :lmao

[dabom]

Keep at it guys. I'm going to sleep. :lol

[DPG21920]

Let's trade our best pg for a bum. :lmao

I have serious doubts that Mills would be moved for Bradley at the end of the day for various reasons. But he makes the most sense for SA.

[SpurPadre]

I have serious doubts that Mills would be moved for Bradley at the end of the day for various reasons. But he makes the most sense for SA.

Not if Murray is out for an extended amount of time.

[DeRozan m8]

No, LDN's defense on Curry and Thompson is too important.

Bradley would be matching that D basically, he can lock down those guys.

And not be a fucking cancer at everything else.

[TheDoctor]

dabom put DJ as his avatar and got injured. The streak of death continues smdh.

[SpurPadre]

Bradley is a pipe dream guys, let it go.

[Hoops Czar]

Amin Elhausen has a well respected theory about how Doc Rivers makes decisions.

1. Did the player play for me before?
If not then:
2. Did player play well against me?

Mills shot 57% on 3s in that 2015 series so that might be the have an impact on the trade discussion :lol

Mills may be shit but if you think Forbes can play basketball, you are sadly mistaken.

[TheDoctor]

961478342104027137

[Mikeanaro]

That niggie is good, would be a nice addition.

[Mikeanaro]

961478342104027137
:lmao

[dabom]

Forbes has like zero meaningful playoff minutes. :lol

[TheDoctor]

961474535366242304

[DAF86]

961474535366242304

Talk among retards.

"Murray doesn't have defense" :lol
"Bradley would make us worse" :lol

[SpurPadre]

Talk among retards.

"Murray doesn't have defense" :lol
"Bradley would make us worse" :lol

Did one of them also tweet that Joffrey is better than Lee and Dedmon combined?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

961478342104027137

What a faggot. The Spurs culture is dead, enough with the horrible “loyalty” contracts

[objective]

Amin Elhausen has a well respected theory about how Doc Rivers makes decisions.

1. Did the player play for me before?
If not then:
2. Did player play well against me?

Mills shot 57% on 3s in that 2015 series so that might be the have an impact on the trade discussion :lol

Mills also saved Austin's career by letting him get his like crazy

:lol:

[UnWantedTheory]

961474535366242304
Holy fuck, both of these dudes are retarded.

[Emperor]

Watch Spurs FO trade that 1st Rd pick for Bradley, trade Mills for Marcus Smart, then Verde for Crowder lol not sure if the numbers work though.

[TheDoctor]

961463178113765376

[Hoops Czar]

961463178113765376

:lmao

[BatManu20]

Yup. Teams are smart and want to hang onto those 1st-Round picks. I'd be chocked if we traded ours for a guy who's going to be a FA this summer.


961492463637749761

[cd021]

Watch Spurs FO trade that 1st Rd pick for Bradley, trade Mills for Marcus Smart, then Verde for Crowder lol not sure if the numbers work though.

Unless the Spurs are getting back Zizic, Frye and the Cavs 1st round pick, Cleveland can go kick rocks and smart isn't getting moved unless some team gives up a 1st.

[Chinook]

Makes no sense Green is, has been and will remain better than Bradley. If they are trading for Avery (rather than trading away Mills), it would be a sign that Kawhi is out more than anything.

[cd021]

Mills may be shit but if you think Forbes can play basketball, you are sadly mistaken.

I am the founder of the #neverForbes movement tbh

[SAGirl]

LAC can do it as separate trades. Two min deals could match Kyle's salary, and due CBA rules, Paul could go over to balance the rosters without counting as traded salary.
Could you see Pop dumping Kyle basically when Kiwi is still injured? Rudy is still questionable too? I can’t. They are already way undersized as they are. Even if they don’t resign him and he walks they need him more right now they needed CoJo in 2015.

[SAGirl]

Yup. Teams are smart and want to hang onto those 1st-Round picks. I'd be chocked if we traded ours for a guy who's going to be a FA this summer.


961492463637749761
If Tyreke isn’t getting a 1st, doubt Bradley will.

I suppose it only makes sense to a team that wants Bradley’s bird rights bc they want to resign him. Which makes me think... perhaps Rudy Gay bc he’s been injured and looks made of glass right now.

[Stabula]

Spurs aren't trading Mills

[Fireball]

I want Bradley ... saying he is no better than Forbes is :lol

[tbdog]

Makes no sense Green is, has been and will remain better than Bradley. If they are trading for Avery (rather than trading away Mills), it would be a sign that Kawhi is out more than anything.

I disagree. Bradley is a better scorer, more diversity and stronger rebounder, and a better defender on point guards. Fights through screens better. Green is by in large the better help defender and has been a more consistent shooter. I just think Bradley's year last year was better than Greens 13 and 14 years.

[Pavlov]

Avery Bradley has had a horrible season but the Spurs can’t get any worseThe Spurs can't get any worse than third in the west?

Damn, that's pretty awesome.

[Chinook]

I disagree. Bradley is a better scorer, more diversity and stronger rebounder, and a better defender on point guards. Fights through screens better. Green is by in large the better help defender and has been a more consistent shooter. I just think Bradley's year last year was better than Greens 13 and 14 years.

Bradley's been abysmal for two years now defensively, and the reason why his offense has fallen off this year is precisely because he's even more dependent on elite play - makers than Green is.

[duncan2150]

Makes no sense Green is, has been and will remain better than Bradley. If they are trading for Avery (rather than trading away Mills), it would be a sign that Kawhi is out more than anything.

Not agree with that, both are good defenders, bradley is a better offensive player not by far but he is. Danny had a lot of so so seasons offensively.

[duncan2150]

Makes no sense Green is, has been and will remain better than Bradley. If they are trading for Avery (rather than trading away Mills), it would be a sign that Kawhi is out more than anything.

Not agree with that, both are good defenders, bradley is a better offensive player not by far but he is. Danny had a lot of so so seasons offensively.

[Chinook]

I disagree. Bradley is a better scorer, more diversity and stronger rebounder, and a better defender on point guards. Fights through screens better. Green is by in large the better help defender and has been a more consistent shooter. I just think Bradley's year last year was better than Greens 13 and 14 years.

And I just checked. Green blew Bradley's 17-18 out of water both of those year. What are you even talking about?

[dabom]

And I just checked. Green blew Bradley's 17-18 out of water both of those year. What are you even talking about?

:lol

[Chinook]

Not agree with that, both are good defenders, bradley is a better offensive player not by far but he is. Danny had a lot of so so seasons offensively.

Bradley is not a good defensive player. He was good, in the same way Noah was good (as in he was good but not nearly as good as his reputation), but he's been godawful for years no. In fact, Bradley has never had a positive net rating in his career. Never. Not one. For his career, he's a minus-eight. It's frankly an insult to Green to be compared to him. Bradley has to be playing his absolute best just to be the Danny that the krew shits on.

[dabom]

Patty is better than this bum.

[Chinook]

After actually looking Bradley up, I would be shocked if the Spurs were even thinking about him outside of a Mills salary dump. He's been terrible his whole career. There's simply no excuse for being a career-long net-negative (and I mean really, not like a Gay or Lou Williams) when you've had Brad Stevens as your coach for years. Fuck, even Patty Mills has been better this year than Bradley was last year.

[Chinook]

Patty is better than this bum.

He literally is. It's insane.

[dabom]

Can we get mods to shut down this thread. It's dead.

[SAGirl]

After actually looking Bradley up, I would be shocked if the Spurs were even thinking about him outside of a Mills salary dump. He's been terrible his whole career. There's simply no excuse for being a career-long net-negative (and I mean really, not like a Gay or Lou Williams) when you've had Brad Stevens as your coach for years. Fuck, even Patty Mills has been better this year than Bradley was last year.
I was going to ask you outside if a swap of one guard for another... it didn’t make sense. He is an expring deal and perhaps they regret Pattys deal and want to pay other people this summer or are potentially anticipating a big FA acquisition that will require salary dumps and moving salaries for expiring deals like a Lebron.

Not saying I believe Lebron to SA is a thing but just saying outside of just clearing space for this summer it doesn’t make much sense.

I still don’t think they move anyone.

[vander]

Even if the Spurs manage to get rid of Mills, they'll just turn around and give 12:01 deals to Forbes, Green, and Parker this summer

[r0drig0lac]

961478342104027137

jesus http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

[r0drig0lac]

961463178113765376

...well, the two sides of ignorance

[BillMc]

Fuck, he stole somebody's hand.
:lol

[coachmac87]

To the people who truly think Patty Mills is a better basketball player over Bradley are fucking retarded....

Like that’s the dumbest shit I have ever heard...

Y’all fucks are ignoring the eye test and looking up his “rating”....

The same dumb fucks I’m sure buy that LeBron has been the worst player in the league past 7 weeks cause of his net rating...

Fucking SpursTalk....

[cd021]

Murray/Bradley/Danny/Kawhi/LMA
I don't see Pop moving Kawhi to the 4

[Chinook]

To the people who truly think Patty Mills is a better basketball player over Bradley are fucking retarded....

Like that’s the dumbest shit I have ever heard...

Y’all fucks are ignoring the eye test and looking up his “rating”....

The same dumb fucks I’m sure buy that LeBron has been the worst player in the league past 7 weeks cause of his net rating...

Fucking SpursTalk....

There's a difference between a partial stretch of a season and a career that has lasted almost a decade. How many years in a row can a team be better with you off the court without it saying something about your ability as a player? How many times can you have negative impact stats relative to the rest of the league before it stops being a quirk? Honestly, people need to ask themselves why they are assuming Bradley being a good player is the null. That he's about to traded for the third time in a year undermines most arguments in favor of him, as does the cheap contract is coming off of. Boston knew who Bradley was when they gave a second-round pick to get rid of him. Detroit found out who he was before they tossed him into the Griffin trade. Now Jerry West and the Clippers are trying to do the same thing hoping someone hasn't caught on yet.

Will you be the last one trying to buy the human bitcoin, Coach?

[tholdren]

I want Bradley ... saying he is no better than Forbes is :lol
Youve never even watched bradley play, obviously

[coachmac87]

There's a difference between a partial stretch of a season and a career that has lasted almost a decade. How many years in a row can a team be better with you off the court without it saying something about your ability as a player? How many times can you have negative impact stats relative to the rest of the league before it stops being a quirk? Honestly, people need to ask themselves why they are assuming Bradley being a good player is the null. That he's about to traded for the third time in a year undermines most arguments in favor of him, as does the cheap contract is coming off of. Boston knew who Bradley was when they gave a second-round pick to get rid of him. Detroit found out who he was before they tossed him into the Griffin trade. Now Jerry West and the Clippers are trying to do the same thing hoping someone hasn't caught on yet.

Will you be the last one trying to buy the human bitcoin, Coach?


Watch the two players Chinook. Don’t let an equation tell you who’s the better player...it’s really not that hard..

Bradley is bigger...

Bradley is better defender...

Bradley is better rebounder...

Bradley is better finisher....

Bradley is ball handler...

Mills is the better shooter....

Mills has played on better teams with better surrounding cast... so his computer formula makes you assume he’s better off??

Bradley would lock Mills the fuck up.....

Like it’s not this complicated man and honestly I thought you were better than that...

He’s a good player with a trade friendly contract...he’s not a franchise player or elite... but for fuck sake he’s better than Mills..

And I’ve already made thousands on bitcoin....

[NASpurs]

961605162325499906

[NASpurs]

961605756545110018

[NASpurs]

961606179553185792

[r0drig0lac]

961605162325499906

DAMN

[Clipper Nation]

961605162325499906
PATFO would be getting fleeced there. Get it done, Jerry!

[AFMadison]

961605162325499906
Why

[TheDoctor]

:lmao if PATFO do this shit.

[NASpurs]

PATFO would be getting fleeced there. Get it done, Jerry!

Yeah no shit, I don't see how the PATFO fluffers can spin this one if it goes down.

[Drewlius]

DG for Bradley straight up only if PATFO truely covet him, but to kick in a 1st to shed Green just because he has a 10mil player option for next year is shit value. I would much rather punt this year and put feelers out for Mills and the 1st to free cap space.

[Chinook]

Watch the two players Chinook. Don’t let an equation tell you who’s the better player...it’s really not that hard..

Bradley is bigger...

Bradley is better defender...

Bradley is better rebounder...

Bradley is better finisher....

Bradley is ball handler...

Mills is the better shooter....

Mills has played on better teams with better surrounding cast... so his computer formula makes you assume he’s better off??

Bradley would lock Mills the fuck up.....

Like it’s not this complicated man and honestly I thought you were better than that...

He’s a good player with a trade friendly contract...he’s not a franchise player or elite... but for fuck sake he’s better than Mills..

And I’ve already made thousands on bitcoin....

I'm happy you haven't lost your shirt over that shit, Coach. Still, I'm not saying Mills is better than Bradley in some weird vacuum world where the only thing that matters is one-on-one match-ups. I am saying that as bad as Patty has been in the eyes of some fans, Bradley has been worse. However, you can't blame his poor numbers on his teams, both because most impact stats control for that and because he played under the second-best coach in the league for years and was still a net-negative. Either he's the most unlucky player in the world, or he simply isn't good.

[MI21]

:lol that would never, ever happen.

[Chinook]

DG for Bradley straight up only if PATFO truely covet him, but to kick in a 1st to shed Green just because he has a 10mil player option for next year is shit value. I would much rather punt this year and put feelers out for Mills and the 1st to free cap space.

What would even be the point in getting rid of that option? Danny's a much better use of $10 Million than Patty is, and PATFO dove on Mills' contract ASAP. Unless Green has become a locker-room problem this is a load of bullshit.

[r0drig0lac]

Yeah no shit, I don't see how the PATFO fluffers can spin this one if it goes down.

you would be surprised

[Clipper Nation]

:lol that would never, ever happen.
PATFO did make 12:01 happen, sign TOSBPau to that contract, let Simmons walk, etc. Just sayin'. :downspin:

[Amuseddaysleeper]

To the people who truly think Patty Mills is a better basketball player over Bradley are fucking retarded....

Like that’s the dumbest shit I have ever heard...

Y’all fucks are ignoring the eye test and looking up his “rating”....

The same dumb fucks I’m sure buy that LeBron has been the worst player in the league past 7 weeks cause of his net rating...

Fucking SpursTalk....

Then leave

[MI21]

PATFO did make 12:01 happen, sign TOSBPau to that contract, let Simmons walk, etc. Just sayin'. :downspin:

This is true - but this would be a bridge to far, not even RC on a binge would do this.

[TheDoctor]

you would be surprised
:lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Getting rid of Danny would a terrible move

[coachmac87]

I'm happy you haven't lost your shirt over that shit, Coach. Still, I'm not saying Mills is better than Bradley in some weird vacuum world where the only thing that matters is one-on-one match-ups. I am saying that as bad as Patty has been in the eyes of some fans, Bradley has been worse. However, you can't blame his poor numbers on his teams, both because most impact stats control for that and because he played under the second-best coach in the league for years and was still a net-negative. Either he's the most unlucky player in the world, or he simply isn't good.

I’m just not trying to overthink this...Bradley is better at literally everything on the court except pure shooting...his role or success of surrounding players does dictate forumla equations.. that’s why I mentioned the LeBron stat..you truly don’t buy that stat do you??

[cjw]

No way in hell is this the deal. And if it is, I’d be shocked they give up a first rounder for a rental. Though you do get Bradley’s bird rights. In a deal that makes the team smaller.

Now is it’s Mills going out instead of Green, it’s a different story.

[NASpurs]

Avery Bradley, another 6'2" midget. Great. What's there to even discuss about unless you trade one midget for another sans draft pick.

[spursistan]

Fuckin' PATFO :lmao..

Always treated Green like a whipping boy..From Pop trotting him out for weeks on court while he was still evidently hampered by his groin to him getting openly dangled to the Cavs last summer there (albeit for a Star), his value for them, apparently, isn't as high as many thought here..

This front office have lost the plot entirely (if this purported deal (Green + 1st) goes down-- even a Green for Bradley straight swap is an awful move)..

[coachmac87]

Then leave

You’re a baby back bitch who cries over spilled milk...

[DesignatedT]

Green is going to be 31 in a few months and is most likely going to become a free agent this summer. Getting rid of him before having to sign him up to another 4+ year deal is probably not a bad move. I love Danny but not sure they should re-sign him to a bunch of $ this off-season. I know Bradley will be a FA also but at least the Spurs can get an up close look at him beforehand and hes only 27 years old.

[r0drig0lac]

:lol


Green is going to be 31 in a few months and is most likely going to become a free agent this summer. Getting rid of him before having to sign him up to another 4+ year deal is probably not a bad move. I love Danny but not sure they should re-sign him to a bunch of $ this off-season. I know Bradley will be a FA also but at least the Spurs can get an up close look at him beforehand and hes only 27 years old.

.

[Ice009]

Fuckin' PATFO :lmao..

Always treated Green like a whipping boy..From Pop trotting him out for weeks on court while he was still evidently hampered by his groin to him getting openly dangled to the Cavs last summer there (albeit for a Star), his value for them, apparently, isn't as high as many thought here..

This front office have lost the plot entirely (if this purported deal (Green + 1st) goes down-- even a Green for Bradley straight swap is an awful move)..

Fuck that, if that's the trade - Danny and a first round pick, that'd be fucking insane. The front office should all be fired if they go through with that.

[coachmac87]

Green finally shows up when he hears he could get traded...

If Danny wasn’t an average shooter these days this wouldn’t be on the table...

[pookenstein]

Trading Danny,a reliable Playoff Performer, for AB? Fuck no. Give them Mills and the first or tell them to go fuck themselves.

Also, if they trade away Danny it's one less reason for Lebron to come to SA.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

You think I hate rc and pop now? Wait till they trade Danny green for a rapist

[KDKSpurs24]

I kind of overreacted at first.. but have you guys not stopped to think that it was the CLIPPERS who are asking about this deal? When you think about it, it leans towards that as being the case.

[spursistan]

Trading Green is essentially a pathetic attempt to palliate the abomination of last offseason that is the 100 millions tagged on Pau/Mills.

I knew between Green and Parker someone gotta give in their next free agency. It looks like they have decided it will be DG..

[Dex]

961478342104027137

"The culture" can't make a pass to save his life.

[DPG21920]

If you think Kawhi is leaving then giving up a first round pick makes very little sense. The only logical thing I can come to with regards to SA being willing to move Danny (a better player) and a pick for Bradley is:

They know there is some discord with Danny and he’s opting out. At the same time, they know that Manu & TP are gone. They can’t afford to take a step back with Kawhi, so since they aren’t comfortable with Murray/Forbes/White/Mills as the guard rotation and no money to improve that, you move for Bradley AND he’s willing to sign the extension (so it’s not a first for a rental).

Bradley is not Danny, but for MLE level money which is all the Spurs would have in this scenario to replace Danny who they know is opting out and leaving SA you can’t do much better than Bradley even if he’s clearly worse than Danny.

So instead of having only Murray/Forbes/Mills/White you add Bradley to the mix to replace Danny who’s gone in the off season, TP and Manu too.

[DPG21920]

But logically beyond my reasoning, it stands that SA would probably not trade Danny for Bradley let alone add a first in. But we will see.

If it’s Mills it makes perfect sense for reasons I pointed out week or two ago.

[TheDoctor]

.
LMAOOOOOO :lmao :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

I kind of overreacted at first.. but have you guys not stopped to think that it was the CLIPPERS who are asking about this deal? When you think about it, it leans towards that as being the case.
I actually don't think so. Adding Danny puts us into the tax, and the Clippers have been trying to avoid the tax all season. We would have to dump salary elsewhere to offset it.

I'd still do the trade in a heartbeat, though.

[MoSpur02]

I’m sure Danny for Avery has been discussed. It probably lasted 1 minute with R.C saying no. I hope. I’m sure the Clippers requested Danny. PATFO should have responded to that request by rejecting it, but who knows. They ya e Gasol 16 million for two years and Mills 50 million.

[sasaint]

Another midget for Pop's midget rotation? This has to be a deal proposed by the Clip-jobs.

[NASpurs]

961601896099217408

[DPG21920]

I actually don't think so. Adding Danny puts us into the tax, and the Clippers have been trying to avoid the tax all season. We would have to dump salary elsewhere to offset it.

I'd still do the trade in a heartbeat, though.

LAC is not going to pay tax with this team. They just aren’t and would be dumb to do so. The deal would involved a third team or it would be Bradley + someone for Danny or Mills + someone so that salaries match (would just be done in two transactions_

[sasaint]

961601896099217408

It doesn't make sense that PATFO would turn down a Danny-for-Avery trade to the Pistons only to make the deal with the Clip-jobs.

[szkorhetz]

I can't see the Patfo giving up Green for Bradley .

[MoSpur02]

I don’t see the Spurs trading away Danny Green. For one his contract is expiring. If they aren’t going to trade Kawhi then it means that there is hope he is coming back soon and trading Danny means missing with the chemistry that got them to the WCF. I don’t see them being that dumb. Bradley would be a good addition, but giving up Danny Green would not help them this season.

[NASpurs]

961626584179527680

[hater]

Are retarded homers here choosing Green or Fatty Shits over Bradley????

:lmao :lol

Holee fuck

Goddamnhomerism is a cancer

[DPG21920]

Good for sa ^

[boutons_deux]

FBI/Comey, aka Trash's Nazis, handed WH to Trash, but protected Hillary! :lol

[Keepin' it real]

Bradley is a pipe dream guys, let it go.

That's good comedy right there. I don't think those words have ever been uttered before ... or ever will be again.

[coachmac87]

Are retarded homers here choosing Green or Fatty Shits over Bradley????

:lmao :lol

Holee fuck



Of course....

Goddamnhomerism is a cancer

[Phenomanul]

What would even be the point in getting rid of that option? Danny's a much better use of $10 Million than Patty is, and PATFO dove on Mills' contract ASAP. Unless Green has become a locker-room problem this is a load of bullshit.


Plus Danny Green is an incentive towards being able to make a run at LeBron during the off-season - given the friendship between DG and LBJ.

[Hoops Czar]

Leave it to Spurs fans to think the Spurs could get a somewhat valuable commodity for an overpriced piece of shit on s terrible contract. Funny how it's D-league Danny for the past two years that nobody can stand but when he goes up on the trading block, people lose their shit.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Plus Danny Green is an incentive towards being able to make a run at LeBron during the off-season - given the friendship between DG and LBJ.

Non issue. Spurs would have to renounce Green anyway if they're adding LeBron.

[DPG21920]

Non issue. Spurs would have to renounce Green anyway if they're adding LeBron.

Not necessarily and they can’t renounce him. Danny has a player option. SA would have to trade him maybe.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Not necessarily and they can’t renounce him. Danny has a player option. SA would have to trade him maybe.

I doubt he picks his option. If he does and LeBron is coming then they'd have to trade him. If he opts out they'll have to renounce him ($15 mil cap hold). I doubt he loves LeBron so much that he'd play for the room exception.

[ECOV]

The Spurs did not fly under the radar this year lol

[sasaint]

961626584179527680

Spurs, for one - if they had ever eased in.

[DPG21920]

I doubt he picks his option. If he does and LeBron is coming then they'd have to trade him. If he opts out they'll have to renounce him ($15 mil cap hold). I doubt he loves LeBron so much that he'd play for the room exception.

Lou Williams is having a better year than Danny and just signed for the MLE. Who knows. I can see Danny playing one more year for that money.

[Seventyniner]

961605162325499906

Double ugh.

[DPG21920]

Ugh Ugh

[baseline bum]

961605162325499906

Fuck that shit. I'd much rather have Green than Bradley. Bradley only makes sense as a way to salary dump Fifty.

[cd98]

Spurs aren't trading Danny Green plus a first round pick for a non-all star. That's all chirp. If the Spurs were willing to toss in a first, they would've done so already and the deal would be done. Spurs aren't trading the first round pick for anyone but an all-star. The first round pick is a contract on the cheap and given the direction of the salary cap, they are too valuable to throw at a player who MAY be a little better than Danny, but won't push the Spurs past the GSW.

[yavozerb]

I would definitely take Bradley over green since I think he can create more offense than green. Would not however give up a 1st...with Murray running the offense a scoring sg is of greater need.

[BatManu20]

Yea as poorly as Danny has shot the ball this season, this trade wouldn't make much sense if it's just a straight up swap between the two players + a 1st-Round pick. That would be a shitty deal for us.

[sasaint]

Leave it to Spurs fans to think the Spurs could get a somewhat valuable commodity for an overpriced piece of shit on s terrible contract. Funny how it's D-league Danny for the past two years that nobody can stand but when he goes up on the trading block, people lose their shit.

Or that the opportunity to play with Danny would be a real inducement for LeBron.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You’re a baby back bitch who cries over spilled milk...

And you're a baby back bitch who cries all the time

"fuckin Spurstalk" yet proceeds to post here over and over :lmao

[coachmac87]

And you're a baby back bitch who cries all the time

"fuckin Spurstalk" yet proceeds to post here over and over :lmao

You’re a top 5 cliff jumper...

You troll to get attention...

Spurs win by 50 and you bitch about giving up a 30pt 4th quarter...

[DPG21920]

New feud alert!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You’re a top 5 cliff jumper...

You troll to get attention...

Spurs win by 50 and you bitch about giving up a 30pt 4th quarter...

And you're a top 5 shit poster period :tu

[MaNu4Tres]

Sounds like no one here has really thought of this.

I think its sensible to imagine that Marc Stein got his info from the Clippers. And Clippers purposely informed Stein about the high end of their asking price (or discussion) with the Spurs to inflate Avery Bradleys' value the last hours of the deadline. That's all it is. The Clippers wanted to get that information out to the public for their own benefit.

Even with the mistakes they made last summer, I don't think RC/Pop would be that dumb to trade Danny for Avery Bradley -- I'm not even talking about the 1st.

If Spurs were really going to do this dumbass trade, the deal would be done already.

[coachmac87]

And you're a top 5 shit poster period :tu

Could care less tbh lol. Just calling you out on your BS post...

[DPG21920]

I got 3 Spurs up under my name
Coach Mac 87 got nothing but lame
Canadians are hella nice, but don’t get excited
I may jump off cliffs but you’re the one who just dieded

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I got 3 Spurs up under my name
Coach Mac 87 got nothing but lame
Canadians are hella nice, but don’t get excited
I may jump off cliffs but you’re the one who just dieded

You are so much better at this than I am :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Could care less tbh lol. Just calling you out on your BS post...

As you should, I can take it :toast

[DAF86]

961605162325499906

I don't know if I would do Green for Bradley straight up. Fuck that trade.

[Budkin]

Fuck that shit. I'd much rather have Green than Bradley. Bradley only makes sense as a way to salary dump Fifty.

Same. That is a horrible deal.

[monkeypunk]

I'm not in favor of losing Danny for Avery but Derrick White would seem to be a decent replacement for Danny on the cheap.

I would trade Forbes and a first for him though. That kid is an abysmal defender and when he's not hitting shots, he's worthless.

[SAGirl]

961601896099217408
Hmmmmmm adding a first was unnecessary in any trade of this kind but regardless, these rumors are starting to just give me a different vibe altogether.

The Spurs aren’t going to pay to retain Danny this summer and have included him in trades since this last summer. Originally he was rumored to have a high asking price and to only be in play for a star. Now his name is around in swaps of one roleplayer for another (and lesser roleplayer).

[Dre_7]

Green >> Bradley

I usually have the Spurs font office's back, but if they trade Green AND a 1st for Bradley I won't be able to defend that one.

Patty for Bradley? Maybe. But not Green.

[coachmac87]

As you should, I can take it :toast

No you can’t...

What cannot I not take? You made a bs post when the Spurs won by 50 and I called you out..must’ve struck a cord??

You got offended by my post of saying Bradley is better than Mills and told me to “leave”...

You can’t even defend yourself...and you’re making my point that you’re a baby back bitch..

[duncan2150]

Imo the spurs will never trade green just for bradley. 99.9%.

[DAF86]

Lou Williams is having a better year than Danny and just signed for the MLE. Who knows. I can see Danny playing one more year for that money.

Danny Green and a 1st round for Lou Williams. Is that even possible?

[Dre_7]

Hmmmmmm adding a first was unnecessary in any trade of this kind but regardless, these rumors are starting to just give me a different vibe altogether.

The Spurs aren’t going to pay to retain Danny this summer and have included him in trades since this last summer. Originally he was rumored to have a high asking price and to only be in play for a star. Now his name is around in swaps of one roleplayer for another (and lesser roleplayer).

Stanley Johnson has all star potential though. I would have loved that move. I still would love that move. I think Stanley is who the Spurs need to target this year.

[Big Empty]

Bradley can guard all the PGs and ca dribble. I like him more than Green. As long as the 1st rounder is lottery protected.

[DPG21920]

Danny Green and a 1st round for Lou Williams. Is that even possible?

It’s not - not at this point in time.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

No you can’t...

What cannot I not take? You made a bs post when the Spurs won by 50 and I called you out..must’ve struck a cord??

You got offended by my post of saying Bradley is better than Mills and told me to “leave”...

You can’t even defend yourself...and you’re making my point that you’re a baby back bitch..


You didn't mention the Spurs won by 50 thing up until an hour ago.

My "leave" comment was in response to you saying "fuckin' Spurstalk" I (like many posters should) think Bradley >> Mills, never said otherwise

You can't even read or comprehend posts come on man :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Bradley can guard all the PGs and ca dribble. I like him more than Green. As long as the 1st rounder is lottery protected.

No way, Danny Green >>>>> Bradley

[cd98]

Stanley Johnson has all star potential though. I would have loved that move. I still would love that move. I think Stanley is who the Spurs need to target this year.

I'd almost be okay with Spurs giving up a first for him, but it's hard to know where the Spurs pick will be. If it was the 28th pick, I'd say trade it, but if it is something in the early 20s or lower, I'd say keep it.

[coachmac87]

You didn't mention the Spurs won by 50 thing up until an hour ago.

My "leave" comment was in response to you saying "fuckin' Spurstalk"

You can't even read or comprehend posts come on man :lmao

Oh man I didn’t know I was the first to criticize SpursTalk..my apologies..I guess since I don’t trash PATFO or a player fan I don’t get a pass...

I mean you can’t even enjoy a 50pt win for fuck sake..what does that say about you?? You’ll bitch about anything..

[SAGirl]

It doesn't make sense that PATFO would turn down a Danny-for-Avery trade to the Pistons only to make the deal with the Clip-jobs.
I would assume it’s other teams asking for Danny and PATFO saying no.

They called the Clippers to see if they would take someone different than Danny in exchange and they said no, plus added a pick just bc...

[Hoops Czar]

I wouldn't give up a 1st for Bradley but the amount of posters defending D-league at this point is laughable. Dude is a flat out scrub and hoping and praying he'll return to his 2012-14 form is an exercise in futility.

Meanwhile... .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0h1_h2bThQ

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0h1_h2bThQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UidcTWnRHQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34D4CrtBJ4


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34D4CrtBJ4)

[sasaint]

I would assume it’s other teams asking for Danny and PATFO saying no.

They called the Clippers to see if they would take someone different than Danny in exchange and they said no, plus added a pick just bc...

I totally agree. That proposed "construction" had to come from the Clips. Hence my comment.

[SAGirl]

Sounds like no one here has really thought of this.

I think its sensible to imagine that Marc Stein got his info from the Clippers. And Clippers purposely informed Stein about the high end of their asking price (or discussion) with the Spurs to inflate Avery Bradleys' value the last hours of the deadline. That's all it is. The Clippers wanted to get that information out to the public for their own benefit.

Even with the mistakes they made last summer, I don't think RC/Pop would be that dumb to trade Danny for Avery Bradley -- I'm not even talking about the 1st.

If Spurs were really going to do this dumbass trade, the deal would be done already.
Definitely leaked by The Clippers.

[Dre_7]

I wouldn't give up a 1st for Bradley but the amount of posters defending D-league at this point is laughable. Dude is a flat out scrub and hoping and praying he'll return to his 2012-14 form is an exercise in futility.

I know you're a troll but come on. Scrubs don't make All-Defensive teams.

[Budkin]

Definitely leaked by The Clippers.

No doubt.

[SAGirl]

No one has remarked about the Spurs wanting to add another 6’2” guard to their rotation???

:lol

[Hoops Czar]

I know you're a troll but come on. Scrubs don't make All-Defensive teams.

And Dejounte Murray and Kyle Anderson are the best defensive PGs and SFs in the league because DPRM says so.

https://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/1

https://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/5

Meanwhile...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFFvShURQ5k

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

No one has remarked about the Spurs wanting to add another 6’2” guard to their rotation???

:lol

At least we'd have 1 who can play defense. Watching Mills, Forbes and Parker play defense is cringe worthy stuff. Even against the point-guard-less Suns last night it was sad.

[TimDunkem]

At least we'd have 1 who can play defense. Watching Mills, Forbes and Parker play defense is cringe worthy stuff. Even against the point-guard-less Suns last night it was sad.

If the Spurs were really in it to win it, they would move TP before Green, imo.