Official 2018 Buyout Thread

[Seventyniner]

So far Joe Johnson appears to headline the list but we will see more names in the coming days.

I don't think Iso Joe is a good fit here unless Kawhi really does sit the rest of the season and Gay can't stay healthy.

[TheGreatYacht]

RC Drunkford probably won't wake up from his wine run until the playoff eligibility for these players runs out. Let's be honest. Expect some fucking bum like Joel Anthony again because this is RV Drunkford we're talking about

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs will only get whatever sloppy seconds are leftover that other contenders pass on. The Kevin Martin's of the world.

[cd98]

Let's see what's left after all the best buyouts go to GSW, Rockets, Cavs, Celtics, and Thunder.

[timtonymanu]

Lol they will just pick up some washed up scrub like Kevin Martin again.

Pop is using the buyout deadline to look up Trump news for his next media interview.

[SpurPadre]

If Ayres has been cut from the z league in Iraq then PATFO will pick him up, tbh.

[lebomb]

Stand pat

[Russ]

Spurs will only get whatever sloppy seconds are leftover that other contenders pass on. The Kevin Martin's of the world.

Boris Diaw helped win the Spurs a title.

[TheGreatYacht]

Boris Diaw helped win the Spurs a title.
Thank god for GM HOTS

[SpurPadre]

Thank god for GM HOTS

You realize TP also got us Joffrey, right?

[Dex]

You realize TP also got us Joffrey, right?

:vomit:

[spurraider21]

just glad we didnt actually do something moronic like dealing Green and a 1st for bradley

[TheDoctor]

Det Culture.
& Det Bonding.
& Det Built not Bought Krew.
& Don't Let 50Mills Go.
& Please Stay Away LeBron We Have Pau.

[SpurPadre]

:vomit:

And he's also responsible for De Culo tbh.

[palangi]

RC Drunkford probably won't wake up from his wine run until the playoff eligibility for these players runs out. Let's be honest. Expect some fucking bum like Joel Anthony again because this is RV Drunkford we're talking about
You can't say this without adding pop to it too

[TheGreatYacht]

You realize TP also got us Joffrey, right?
Drunkford saw him play when he went to Paris to try some wine. I'm sure HOTS doesn't even know that guy tbh.

Your boy got us Laprovitolla and Fabricó Roberto. Disgusting

[TheGreatYacht]

Det Culture.
& Det Bonding.
& Det Built not Bought Krew.
& Don't Let 50Mills Go.
& Please Stay Away LeBron We Have Pau.
You forgot

& 3rd in the West bitches

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[SpurPadre]

Drunkford saw him play when he went to Paris to try some wine. I'm sure HOTS doesn't even know that guy tbh.

Your boy got us Laprovitolla and Fabricó Roberto. Disgusting

Fab contributed way more than Joffrey and De Culo combined and Bobo is homies with Manu too tbh. Also, TP is responsible for that wasted pick Liver Jean Charles.

[TheGreatYacht]

Fab contributed way more than Joffrey and De Culo combined and Bobo is homies with Manu too tbh.
Fab was homies with HOTS too, and Diaw got recruited by TP his childhood friend. Nice try Salvadorean

[SpurPadre]

Fab was homies with HOTS too, and Diaw got recruited by TP his childhood friend. Nice try Salvadorean

Oh yeah, how do you explain Liver Jean Charles?

[TheDoctor]

You forgot

& 3rd in the West bitches

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How could I??? That shit is inceptioned already.

[gambit1990]

Let's see what's left after all the best buyouts go to GSW, Rockets, Cavs, Celtics, and Thunder.
:lol

[Hoops Czar]

just glad we didnt actually do something moronic like dealing Green and a 1st for bradley

Or sign Paddy to 4 years/50M
Or sign Pau to 3 year/48M
Or sign BP3 to replace Simmons
Or sign Laughverne to replace Lee
Or sign Forbes as a rotation player.

I see why Rudy Gay was available. Nobody wanted to touch him with a 10-foot pole.

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh yeah, how do you explain Liver Jean Charles?
Does Manure have a team overseas that has won a championship? Didn't think so Ernesto

GM HOTS - 1
GM Ginose - 0

[TheGreatYacht]

Or sign Paddy to 4 years/50M
Or sign Pau to 3 year/48M
Or sign BP3 to replace Simmons
Or sign Laughverne to replace Lee
Or sign Forbes as a rotation player.

I see why Rudy Gay was available. Nobody wanted to touch him with a 10-foot pole. Dex bklynspursfan raybies , thoughts?

[vy65]

What ring chasing vet would want to sign here? And what would it accomplish if they did?

[r0drig0lac]

Let's see what's left after all the best buyouts go to GSW, Rockets, Cavs, Celtics, and Thunder.

thisx1000

[spurraider21]

What onion ring chasing vet would want to sign here?
patty mills

[r0drig0lac]

What ring chasing vet would want to sign here? And what would it accomplish if they did?for what?

[SpurPadre]

Does Manure have a team overseas that has won a championship? Didn't think so Ernesto

GM HOTS - 1
GM Ginose - 0

Uh, Manu single-handedly beat Team USA to a Gold Medal tbh.

Meanwhile, this is what TP has done with Team France, other than fuck teammates' wives:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QavHBcRtTtE

[vy65]

patty mills

Look, I'm just happy that Manu, Patty, and the gang still get to hang out together, do retarded shit like the frog, and talk to pop about gamma ray bursts. I would have been really upset if the team had them up in the interest of "attempting to get better." Who the fuck would want that?

[Hoops Czar]

What ring chasing vet would want to sign here? And what would it accomplish if they did?

Players who feel they can play into their 40's or are completely broken down and want to get paid handsomely for doing next to nothing.

[NASpurs]

You forgot

& 3rd in the West bitches

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Fucking idiots keep regurgitating that shit ad nauseum. The schedule is about to get a million times more difficult genius.

"3rd in the west" despite playing the easiest schedule while the tail end is the hardest.

" don’t know who they are yet without Kawhi and Rudy" ...nothing like still trying to find yourself with 20+ games left in the season and your star player's return nowhere in sight. Yeah sure, you're going to plug him right in with no growing pains when he comes back close to the playoffs. Let's see if they're still in 3rd by then.

These fucking mantras just kill me.

[spurraider21]

Fucking idiots keep regurgitating that shit ad nauseum. The schedule is about to get a million times more difficult genius.

"3rd in the west" despite playing the easiest schedule while the tail end is the hardest.

" don’t know who they are yet without Kawhi and Rudy" ...nothing like still trying to find yourself with 20+ games left in the season and your star player's return nowhere in sight. Yeah sure, you're going to plug him right in with no growing pains when he comes back close to the playoffs. Let's see if they're still in 3rd by then.

These fucking mantras just kill me.
if kawhi isn't playing at his highest level, this team isn't competing for jack shit regardless of any move you think they should have made at the deadline

[TheGreatYacht]

Fucking idiots keep regurgitating that shit ad nauseum. The schedule is about to get a million times more difficult genius.

"3rd in the west" despite playing the easiest schedule while the tail end is the hardest.

" don’t know who they are yet without Kawhi and Rudy" ...nothing like still trying to find yourself with 20+ games left in the season and your star player's return nowhere in sight. Yeah sure, you're going to plug him right in with no growing pains when he comes back close to the playoffs. Let's see if they're still in 3rd by then.

These fucking mantras just kill me.
He used to be a good reporter before the virgin in Jeff McDonald started rubbing off on him. I don't think there's a team with local beat writers as useless as ours. Even Mike Monroe who many of those clowns respect is a fucking dipshit.

[TheDoctor]

Uh, Manu single-handedly beat Team USA to a Gold Medal tbh.

Meanwhile, this is what TP has done with Team France, other than fuck teammates' wives:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QavHBcRtTtE
Kawhi w/ the cameo at the end tbh

[NASpurs]

if kawhi isn't playing at his highest level, this team isn't competing for jack shit regardless of any move you think they should have made at the deadline

Preaching to the choir man, I was already saying they weren't going to make any move at the deadline. Would had been stupid when Kawhi's status is up in the air. None of that changes what I was ranting about in my previous post.

[TheDoctor]

Fucking idiots keep regurgitating that shit ad nauseum. The schedule is about to get a million times more difficult genius.

"3rd in the west" despite playing the easiest schedule while the tail end is the hardest.

" don’t know who they are yet without Kawhi and Rudy" ...nothing like still trying to find yourself with 20+ games left in the season and your star player's return nowhere in sight. Yeah sure, you're going to plug him right in with no growing pains when he comes back close to the playoffs. Let's see if they're still in 3rd by then.

These fucking mantras just kill me.

"Spurs flying under the radar" :wow

[NASpurs]

He used to be a good reporter before the virgin in Jeff McDonald started rubbing off on him. I don't think there's a team with local beat writers as useless as ours. Even Mike Monroe who many of those clowns respect is a fucking dipshit.

I always get the feeling that he's trying to be buddy-buddy with the players.

[diego]

Fucking idiots keep regurgitating that shit ad nauseum. The schedule is about to get a million times more difficult genius.

"3rd in the west" despite playing the easiest schedule while the tail end is the hardest.

" don’t know who they are yet without Kawhi and Rudy" ...nothing like still trying to find yourself with 20+ games left in the season and your star player's return nowhere in sight. Yeah sure, you're going to plug him right in with no growing pains when he comes back close to the playoffs. Let's see if they're still in 3rd by then.

These fucking mantras just kill me.

Right, so trading half the team a la Cavs and giving up picks in case kawhi maybe possibly comes back would have been a great solution

[gambit1990]

if kawhi isn't playing at his highest level, this team isn't competing for jack shit regardless of any move you think they should have made at the deadline
that's not untrue but the roster could've been upgraded.

[NASpurs]

"Spurs flying under the radar" :wow

SPAM :wow

[NASpurs]

I don't get why people keep replying to my post like I wanted wholesale changes on the team. I was just essentially bitching about the stupid tired mantras. :lol As far as I'm concerned, this is a lost season.

[SpurPadre]

Kawhi w/ the cameo at the end tbh

LOL. For those who don't speak French, this is what TP said to poor Mahinmi:

"I told you I wanted to fuck your wife and to introduce her to me but instead of sitting her behind me, you give her tickets all the way in the back! What the fuck is wrong with you?! I wanted to feel her up during timeouts but she was nowhere to be found, you inconsiderate asshole! I have the right to fuck everyone's girl but you have to be the only one to resist. Fuck you, you shit!"

[TheGreatYacht]

LOL. For those who don't speak French, this is what TP said to poor Mahinmi:

"I told you I wanted to fuck your wife and to introduce her to me but instead of sitting her behind me, you give her tickets all the way in the back! What the fuck is wrong with you?! I wanted to feel her up during timeouts but she was nowhere to be found, you inconsiderate asshole! I have the right to fuck everyone's girl but you have to be the only one to resist. Fuck you, you shit!"
You aren't fooling anyone, son. You're barely fluent in English much less French

[rjv]

only thing more dissapointing than the local beat writers that supposedly cover the spurs is the fact that i actually try to look for something more insightful in this place.

[SpurPadre]

You aren't fooling anyone, son. You're barely fluent in English much less French

Well, I did have to edit some other stuff out. After all, this is a family board tbh.

[Pavlov]

You aren't fooling anyone, son. You're barely fluent in English much less Frenchlol

I'm trying to figure out what Spurs trade would project better than just waiting for healthy Kawhi and Rudy tbh.

[NASpurs]

:wow

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[MoSpur02]

:wow
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Could totally see the Spurs going after this guy. Why? The last name.

[Chinook]

I'd love to bring in big PapaG. He's really good in 2K. Plus he was supposedly sonning Milutonov when they were both prospects

[Robz4000]

:wow

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Shit, it's Giannis; get it done RC !!!!!!

[DAF86]

Uh, Manu single-handedly beat Team USA to a Gold Medal tbh.

Meanwhile, this is what TP has done with Team France, other than fuck teammates' wives:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QavHBcRtTtE

Somebody translate please. :lol

[Seventyniner]

:wow

961717195804995586

You can't fix stupid.

[cd98]

Someone needs to tell Jabari Young that the reason we have the 3rd best record in the west is because we've played the easiest schedule. What is remaining is now the hardest schedule. And without Gay and Kawhi, we are going to be dropping big time. We will be in 7/8 seed or playoff bubble if we do not get Kawhi and Gay back soon.

[pad300]

lol

I'm trying to figure out what Spurs trade would project better than just waiting for healthy Kawhi and Rudy tbh.


Mills for Avery Bradley. Just to move Mills. It's clear that a) Tony's here as long as he wants to be the backup. b) Mill's isn't a starter level pg c) both Dejounte and White look promising and d) Mills is paid way too much to be a bench guy...

[SpurPadre]

Somebody translate please. :lol

The whole team was scared AF lol. I don't think this would've ended well for TP if Joakim Noah had been there, tbh.

[tholdren]

that's not untrue but the roster could've been upgraded.

How?

[UZER]

You forgot

& 3rd in the West bitches

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Jabari with the personal damage control.

[UZER]

Could totally see the Spurs going after this guy. Why? The last name.

:lol

[TD 21]

Would look into Papagiannis as a two-way, replacing Costello.

Allen, Johnson and Rose are locks. Other candidates: Belinelli, Noel, Jefferson, Buycks, Brewer, McLemore, Wright, Muhammad, Vaughn, Burke, Noah, Carter.

Noel and Wright are the only names worth a look, but obviously Spurs wouldn't touch Noel and Wright probably ends up with Thunder or Cavaliers.

[UZER]

Another year of buyout table scraps because PATFO are "so smart".

[ace3g]

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[Robz4000]

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If the Spurs fail to get an upgrade for Lauvergne from the NBA buyout market I'd be fine with cutting him for Bobo tbh. He wouldn't bring much more to the table but he'd be entertaining to have back.

[dabom]

If Bobo is healthy, I give him a min contract.

[exstatic]

If the Spurs fail to get an upgrade for Lauvergne from the NBA buyout market I'd be fine with cutting him for Bobo tbh. He wouldn't bring much more to the table but he'd be entertaining to have back.
He was crap after the 2014 run. He can play excellent inspired basketball when he wants to. He just doesn’t care most of the time. It’s frustrating to see him just drift up and down the floor for games at a time, when you know how much he’s capable of.

[Robz4000]

He was crap after the 2014 run. He can play excellent inspired basketball when he wants to. He just doesn’t care most of the time. It’s frustrating to see him just drift up and down the floor for games at a time, when you know how much he’s capable of.

Agreed. Still better than Lauvergne tho.

[Chinook]

Boris looked pretty good against LAC last post-season.

[r0drig0lac]

Someone needs to tell Jabari Young that the reason we have the 3rd best record in the west is because we've played the easiest schedule. What is remaining is now the hardest schedule. And without Gay and Kawhi, we are going to be dropping big time. We will be in 7/8 seed or playoff bubble if we do not get Kawhi and Gay back soon.

this guy is like the typical poster st, statistics and numbers without any context.

[pookenstein]

I met Bobo in the gym last week. He's already getting into Playoff shape.
MQvFvs2DWfs

[Seventyniner]

He was crap after the 2014 run. He can play excellent inspired basketball when he wants to. He just doesn’t care most of the time. It’s frustrating to see him just drift up and down the floor for games at a time, when you know how much he’s capable of.

I would hope he could maintain motivation for a few months. After that all bets are off.


Agreed. Still better than Lauvergne tho.

Definitely this.

[MaNu4Tres]

Don't see any buy out candidate good enough to break the condensed playoff 10 man rotation.

Looks like Pop is rightfully going to utilize the 4 spot to Kyle, Gay, and Bertans with Gasol playing the 5 off the bench.

Come playoff time, especially if Spurs face OKC in the 1st round, LA will likely see 35-40 minutes at the 5 spot -- leaving very little for Gasol. Against OKC, HOU, and GS -- Spurs should be allocating all, or most, of the minutes at the 4 to Kyle, Gay, Bertans, Kawhi.

The 98 million dollar men from last summer will have very limited roles when it matters most. Amazing way to allocate 30% of the payroll the next 2-4 yrs, Spurs. And if Kawhi signs Super max, then Patty will account for 30% of the remaining salary by himself.

[Ice009]

If George Hill didn't get traded and was bought out, do you guys think the FO would have went after him? He was my top choice.

I wouldn't mind Marco if he's bought out. Not sure about anyone else. Diaw, if it's to get rid of Joffery, I would take him back straight away.

[MaNu4Tres]

If George Hill didn't get traded and was bought out, do you guys think the FO would have went after him? He was my top choice.

I wouldn't mind Marco if he's bought out. Not sure about anyone else. Diaw, if it's to get rid of Joffery, I would take him back straight away.


Even right now, with Kawhi and Rudy out, I don't see where he gets a consistent role.

With everyone healthy, Marco would be like the 13th man.

He's kind of pointless.

[Ice009]

Yeah, maybe not due to their being a logjam of guards. That's what I was wondering about Hill. You think the Spurs would have went after him with all the PGs already on the team?

[MaNu4Tres]

Yeah, maybe not due to their being a logjam of guards. That's what I was wondering about Hill. You think the Spurs would have went after him with all the PGs already on the team?

Probably. I think they would have had to. When all healthy, 50 million dollar Mills would have been moved from 11th man to 12th man.

LA - Kyle - Kawhi - Green - Murray

Pau - Bertans - Gay - Manu - Hill

or

Pau - Gay - Manu - Hill - Tony

Bertans/Tony - Patty - Forbes as insurance.

[jermaine]

Even right now, with Kawhi and Rudy out, I don't see where he gets a consistent role.

With everyone healthy, Marco would be like the 13th man.

He's kind of pointless.

I don't trust Rudy to be healthy. Nor do I trust Forbes, thus the move to sign a proven champion who knows the system.

[TrainOfThought5]

Another year of buyout table scraps because PATFO are "so smart".

Won a ring with boris diaw starting.

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't trust Rudy to be healthy. Nor do I trust Forbes, thus the move to sign a proven champion who knows the system.

Even if Rudy isn't healthy, are you benching Manu or Kyle to play Marco?

I don't think so.

Marco isn't necessary.

[jermaine]

Marco can come off the bench with Manu. Kyle play the 4.. bench Davis

[jermaine]

Shiiiit Pop would have this lineup
Tony
Ginobili
Marco
Anderson
Bertans

[MoSpur02]

Vince Carter might be bought out. Over 40 years old? Check!
Pop: R.C, get Vince Carter now! Make it happen.

[sasaint]

He used to be a good reporter before the virgin in Jeff McDonald started rubbing off on him. I don't think there's a team with local beat writers as useless as ours. Even Mike Monroe who many of those clowns respect is a fucking dipshit.

By design. They are no more than Pop's mouthpieces. (Take that any way you like.)

[sasaint]

I met Bobo in the gym last week. He's already getting into Playoff shape.
MQvFvs2DWfs

:lmao

[sasaint]

If George Hill didn't get traded and was bought out, do you guys think the FO would have went after him? He was my top choice.

I wouldn't mind Marco if he's bought out. Not sure about anyone else. Diaw, if it's to get rid of Joffery, I would take him back straight away.

Yeah, I was hoping we would be able to bring George back, too.

[sasaint]

Vince Carter might be bought out. Over 40 years old? Check!
Pop: R.C, get Vince Carter now! Make it happen.

I bet Vince would love to spend his last season in the NBA playing with a roster as full of old guys as the Spurs and get to the playoffs one last time. I can see this!

[TheDoctor]

Shiiiit Pop would have this lineup
Tony
Ginobili
Marco
Anderson
Bertans

4th quarter starting lineup in a Playoff game.

[Chinook]

LMA isn't going to play exclusively center. He forces teams to play big, since pretty much no power-forwards can guard him. So you won't see a lot of Draymond or Anderson at the five when Aldridge is out there unless there are injuries like the one to Nene last year. With a team using a legit center, the Spurs will have a guy for Pau to guard. Gasol is going to get his minutes, especially if he plays well. He's damned sure going to get more than the least playable of Kyle, Gay or Davis if he doesn't suck. Pop's going to want to protect LMA from the physical pounding of playing the five as much as he can.

Patty's a different story. With Murray starting, he's only playable in niche lineups. Unless Pop has an entirely new way of playing defense hidden up his sleeve, you really don't want either of Parker or Mills against GS' second unit. Having both seems bonkers.

[TD 21]

Afflalo is another buyout candidate.



Don't see any buy out candidate good enough to break the condensed playoff 10 man rotation.

Looks like Pop is rightfully going to utilize the 4 spot to Kyle, Gay, and Bertans with Gasol playing the 5 off the bench.

Come playoff time, especially if Spurs face OKC in the 1st round, LA will likely see 35-40 minutes at the 5 spot -- leaving very little for Gasol. Against OKC, HOU, and GS -- Spurs should be allocating all, or most, of the minutes at the 4 to Kyle, Gay, Bertans, Kawhi.

The 98 million dollar men from last summer will have very limited roles when it matters most. Amazing way to allocate 30% of the payroll the next 2-4 yrs, Spurs. And if Kawhi signs Super max, then Patty will account for 30% of the remaining salary by himself.

Yeah and supposedly Mavericks don't intend to buy out Noel. Wright would be nice, but with Murray now starting in supposed perpetuity, if/when healthy, there's already 10 rotation locks.

If/when healthy, starting Anderson alongside Murray makes no sense. Two virtual non shooters mostly playing off ball roles, is untenable. Starting Gay makes a lot more sense. Would provide Leonard and Aldridge more space and let's face it, that unit is going to be ISO based either way, so they might as well go all in on it.

The opposite is true of the bench. They're going to be motion based either way, so they might as well go all in on it and see if they can produce shades of the beautiful game.

Gay/Anderson/Bertans
Leonard/Ginobili/Paul
Aldridge/Gasol/Lauvergne
Green/Mills/Forbes
Murray/Parker/White

Minutes wise, Gasol and Ginobili function as third big and wing respectively of course, which means the former essentially splits minutes with Gay, while the latter continues on in his long time role of roughly 20 mpg backing up Green.

[jyra]

He is not a buyout guy but Terrence Jones could be another option if Gay is not ready to go after the break.

[bklynspursfan]

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[BatManu20]

Ferrari is being bought out

[spurraider21]

I met Bobo in the gym last week. He's already getting into Playoff shape.
MQvFvs2DWfs
BOBO UPDATE:

he's nearly in game shape!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co4SSQY2GuM

[Robz4000]

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Come home King Beli

[Chinook]

Dunno why people want Beli. He wouldn't have a rotation spot as it is. They aren't benching Mills or Parker, and Manu isn't playing the four.

[spurraider21]

yeah belli doesn't really fit at this point. if forbes faceplanted this year, then marco could easily take those minutes, but he's been playing well enough. the only upgrade we should really be looking at is Joff's spot.

[szkorhetz]

yeah belli doesn't really fit at this point. if forbes faceplanted this year, then marco could easily take those minutes, but he's been playing well enough. the only upgrade we should really be looking at is Joff's spot.
He would play a ton for the Warriors and I don't want to see that.

[KDKSpurs24]

Dunno why people want Beli. He wouldn't have a rotation spot as it is. They aren't benching Mills or Parker, and Manu isn't playing the four.
We have to keep him from other contenders like Houston and GS. That’s why.

[HarlemHeat37]

Philly makes the most sense for him IMO, they desperately need bench pieces..not a contender, but not everybody cares about that..

[Dex]

yeah belli doesn't really fit at this point. if forbes faceplanted this year, then marco could easily take those minutes, but he's been playing well enough. the only upgrade we should really be looking at is Joff's spot.

Agree, I'd be highly surprised if the FO cuts even one guy, but if they do, it should be either Joff or Paul and the replacement should be another big.

I love Beli and would love to see him back, but we already have too many guards as it is.

[MaNu4Tres]

Philly makes the most sense for him IMO, they desperately need bench pieces..not a contender, but not everybody cares about that..

I say he goes to GS or OKC.

Swaggy has been a disappointment and he could start or be the main guard for OKC off the bench.

[KDKSpurs24]

Agree, I'd be highly surprised if the FO cuts even one guy, but if they do, it should be either Joff or Paul and the replacement should be another big.

I love Beli and would love to see him back, but we already have too many guards as it is.
id take Willie Reed and Marco for Joff and Paul!

[NASpurs]

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[jermaine]

If the Spurs don't sign Marco, imma be pissed... If we don't get another big, imma be pissed. Joff sucks even on 2k18..

[spurs50_]

Is there a deadline to signing bought out players?......thanks

[ismael-robert]

March 1 per google

[jyra]

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Before Thursday's deadline, the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers), San Antonio Spurs (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) and Oklahoma City Thunder (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder) were among teams believed to be interested in trading for him, league sources said.

[BatManu20]

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[bklynspursfan]

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[BatManu20]

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[NASpurs]

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[Mr. Body]

The Spurs are going to sign the bought-out Vince Carter and Belinelli.

[MaNu4Tres]

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Sounds like Spurs tried to shed salary during the deadline.. and probably with Mills.

Only 3 contracts made sense salary wise to trade for Bradley/Belinelli. Mills, Green, and Gay. Spurs obviously didn't agree to the Green deal for Bradley -- so he wasn't who the Spurs wanted to trade.. Gay brings a whole different dynamic to the team and isn't redundant -- so I'm assuming it wasn't him either. I'm convinced the player Spurs tried to move was Mills and it makes sense because Belinelli and Bradley had expirings.

Spurs had the right mindset. Pretty amazing how bad that deal looked a month into the contract.

[dabom]

Sounds like Spurs tried to shed salary during the deadline.. and probably with Mills.

Only 3 contracts made sense salary wise to trade for Bradley/Belinelli. Mills, Green, and Gay. Spurs obviously didn't agree to the Green deal for Bradley -- so he wasn't who the Spurs wanted to trade.. Gay brings a whole different dynamic to the team and isn't redundant -- so I'm assuming it wasn't him either. I'm convinced the player Spurs tried to move was Mills and it makes sense because Belinelli and Bradley had expirings.

Spurs had the right mindset. Pretty amazing how bad that deal looked a month into the contract.

Never heard Patty was being shopped from my sources.

[KDKSpurs24]

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Want. Cut Joff for Wright, please.

[tholdren]

Dunno why people want Beli. He wouldn't have a rotation spot as it is. They aren't benching Mills or Parker, and Manu isn't playing the four.

Arent you done with the 12345 stuff yet? Spurs dont have anything but a traditional 5 in pau

[tholdren]

The Spurs are going to sign the bought-out Vince Carter and Belinelli.
Carter and manu would be the best on the team. Do it

[tholdren]

The Spurs are going to sign the bought-out Vince Carter and Belinelli.
Carter and manu would be the best on the team. Do it

[ace3g]

Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon) 6m (https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/962131053954547714)
The Houston Rockets are frontrunners to sign big man Brandan Wright on the buyout market, league sources tell ESPN. Wright would add another lob target for James Harden and Chris Paul. espn.com/espn/now?nowId… (https://t.co/ze7TpBCRyB)

[Dancelot]

I think he’ll likely sign with the Warriors. I remember hearing that Durant tried to get him to sign with the thunder instead of the Spurs years back.

[SAGirl]

Sounds like Spurs tried to shed salary during the deadline.. and probably with Mills.

Only 3 contracts made sense salary wise to trade for Bradley/Belinelli. Mills, Green, and Gay. Spurs obviously didn't agree to the Green deal for Bradley -- so he wasn't who the Spurs wanted to trade.. Gay brings a whole different dynamic to the team and isn't redundant -- so I'm assuming it wasn't him either. I'm convinced the player Spurs tried to move was Mills and it makes sense because Belinelli and Bradley had expirings.

Spurs had the right mindset. Pretty amazing how bad that deal looked a month into the contract.
And both are guards...

[spurraider21]

Spurs by 20+ tbh

[UZER]

Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon) 6m (https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/962131053954547714)
The Houston Rockets are frontrunners to sign big man Brandan Wright on the buyout market, league sources tell ESPN. Wright would add another lob target for James Harden and Chris Paul. espn.com/espn/now?nowId… (https://t.co/ze7TpBCRyB)




I hate lobs.

:pop:

[objective]

Brendan Wright >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lolffrey Lolvaurgne

Which makes sense that he goes to Houston.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 53s (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/962146215537401857)
Sources: After he completes Memphis buyout, Brandan Wright plans on deal with the Houston Rockets for the remainder of the season.

[Ice009]

LOL, Spurs may not get any of these guys, so all you guys saying you don't want them, don't worry, they don't want the Spurs either. They also probably want to play for contenders, not a team that might miss the playoffs, or if they do make it, likely to lose in the first round.

I want Marco back. I don't give a fuck about the other players already on the roster. They can lose minutes and sit. Marco is a better shooter, passer, play-maker than a lot of the PGs on the team.

[objective]

I don't want Marco back.

Give me a big or more minutes for White

[jermaine]

I don't want Marco back.

Give me a big or more minutes for White

Now I get that you want a big, trust me... I do too. But let me get this clear, you don't want a proven champion that was key on our title run cuz you want more time for a G League rookie??

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't want Marco back.

Give me a big or more minutes for White

Co-sign 100%.

White is the 3rd or 4th best guard on the roster and 95% of the people here don't even realize it yet.

[Ice009]

If Pop actually plays White, yeah, that would be good. I wanted him to play 2 months ago, but Pop just doesn't want to play him.

[Leetonidas]

I'm a fan of White tbh....everytime he steps on the floor even in limited mins he looks solid. Shame someone with no real skill like Brandon Paul gets more time than him

[MaNu4Tres]

If Pop actually plays White, yeah, that would be good. I wanted him to play 2 months ago, but Pop just doesn't want to play him.

That's Pops problem, but the Pop yes-men always look the other way when I shine light on it. It took Pop 3 years to play Splitter over Bonner, said Hill wasn't ready for playoffs and started off with Vaughn in 09' Playoffs. Did the same with Simmons his rookie year when he put Simmons in a suit so he can give the Corpse of Kevin Martin a role on the bench.

The only time he gives rookies a consistent role is if none of his precious over-utilized or over the hill vets are in the way on the depth chart.

[jermaine]

Well with 2 pgs not playing next gm, I'm sure we're about to find out what White really has I'm store for us. Against top notch talent too!!!

[Ice009]

I'm a fan of White tbh....everytime he steps on the floor even in limited mins he looks solid. Shame someone with no real skill like Brandon Paul gets more time than him

There was a couple of games Pop gave him minutes in the 4th quarter, and in those games I think he did well in those short stretches. He made some good plays and then for no reason IMO got benched again for the rest of the game/s. I just remember two games where he was inserted out of nowhere into the 4th quarter of the game with the team playing poorly, but they started doing well while he was out there, then he was inexplicably benched after those couple of very good short stints, and I think they ended up losing both those games.

Not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I do recall a couple instances where I thought he played well in the 4th quarter, but wasn't allowed to play for any more than a short stretch even though he was doing well. Does anyone else remember those games/stints?

[objective]

Now I get that you want a big, trust me... I do too. But let me get this clear, you don't want a proven champion that was key on our title run cuz you want more time for a G League rookie??

I don't think the Spurs have a chance to win this year even with a healthy Kawhi. The talent isn't there. To me, it's already been settled, they're not winning a title. I would not give them a better than 55/45 to even win a round.

So that leaves to developing things for the future. They're on the right track with Murray even though he doesn't get enough minutes.

Getting time for White is investing in next year and years to come. Any big man who wasn't too old that's not Joffrey would be investing in next year just to find out if the new big can play.

Marco is about to be 32 and isn't a part of the future going forward. His atrocious defense is why the 14 Dallas series went seven games. I'm not kidding. As soon as they benched him they were smooth sailing.

He was the weakest link by far in that wing rotation.

Hell, I'd rather keep Paul and gift him minutes than sign Marco. Marco's not a part of the future. His defense will get worse, his overrated playmaking and pick and roll game will get worse.

[objective]

There was a couple of games Pop gave him minutes in the 4th quarter in those games and he did well in those short stretches, then he benched him and the team lost. He made some good plays and then got benched again for the rest of the game.

I'm sure Pop thinks it "wouldn't be fair to the team" to play White. Just like Splitter, just like Hill.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm sure Pop thinks it "wouldn't be fair to the team" to play White. Just like Splitter, just like Hill.

This.

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't think the Spurs have a chance to win this year even with a healthy Kawhi. The talent isn't there. To me, it's already been settled, they're not winning a title. I would not give them a better than 55/45 to even win a round.

So that leaves to developing things for the future. They're on the right track with Murray even though he doesn't get enough minutes.

Getting time for White is investing in next year and years to come. Any big man who wasn't too old that's not Joffrey would be investing in next year just to find out if the new big can play.

Marco is about to be 32 and isn't a part of the future going forward. His atrocious defense is why the 14 Dallas series went seven games. I'm not kidding. As soon as they benched him they were smooth sailing.

He was the weakest link by far in that wing rotation.

Hell, I'd rather keep Paul and gift him minutes than sign Marco. Marco's not a part of the future. His defense will get worse, his overrated playmaking and pick and roll game will get worse.

Marco barely played in tightly contested games too during the run in 2014.

I think I remember him avg only 8 minutes per game in playoffs when games were decided by single digits and it doubled to over 16-18 mpg in blow outs.

Outside of his one three game 3 vs Heat, he didn't have a big role or impact in 2014 like the casuals believe he did. He got most of his in blow outs, far after game was decided. He was the Steve Kerr of that team, not the Mario Elie.

But hey it was the beautiful game squad, casuals love them some Patty & Marco even though the big reason why they won was because of Kawhi/ Green doing the heavy lifting & Manu/Parker cleaning up the remains when it came to the contributions.

Then you had the outliers in Mills & Marco who cherry picked off of the heavy lifters or on top of the leads.

[Ice009]

He was poor in 2014, I didn't want him on the court. I remember good and well how bad he was against Dallas in round 1. I didn't want him to play at all, but I always think back to 2015. He played his ass off against the Clippers, and I think he was better a year later in the playoffs than he was the previous year. His defense still may have sucked, but he played tougher against the Clippers and was fearless shooting the ball. A couple of those games he tried to will the Spurs to a win.

[pookenstein]

BOBO UPDATE:

he's nearly in game shape!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co4SSQY2GuM

:lol

[dbestpro]

Vince Carter might be bought out. Over 40 years old? Check!
Pop: R.C, get Vince Carter now! Make it happen.

Maybe he can pull off a Domonique Wilkens moment if Leonard is done for the season.

[NASpurs]

Pretty much rules out the Spurs when Pop's playing Parker, Mills, and Manu off the bench.

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[NASpurs]

:lol... Spurs

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[TimDunkem]

:lol... Spurs

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In before PATFO slurpers says our washed up vets are soooo much better.

[TheDoctor]

In before PATFO slurpers says our washed up vets are soooo much better.

Too hard to see my fat wombat teammate go :cry

[r0drig0lac]

:lol... Spurs

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the rich get richer, meanwhile we have forbes, bp3 and joffrey http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/lobt2.gif

[TimDunkem]

Too hard to see my fat wombat teammate go :cry

We just wanna hangout and enjoy the season while it lasts. :cry

[TheDoctor]

We just wanna hangout and enjoy the season while it lasts. :cry

And frogging (http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2014/04/16/140416froggingfinalmp4-3239622) while it last :cry

[TimDunkem]

And frogging (http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2014/04/16/140416froggingfinalmp4-3239622) while it last :cry

Leap froggin', towel wavin', beating your chest when you shoot 3 for 11. Thank you, Mills. :cry

What a cultural leader :cry

Give that man 50 million :cry

[jermaine]

Looking at Houston, I don't blame Kawhi now. Spurs with G League players an rockets gets even better

[TheGreatYacht]

LMFAOOOOOO TheDoctor TimDunkem

[TimDunkem]

Looking at Houston, I don't blame Kawhi now. Spurs with G League players an rockets gets even better

Even their 3rd stringers are better yet PATFO dickriders still think Kawhi is all this team needs to win it all...

[UZER]

:lol... Spurs

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All NBA players to media: I love Pop so much and respect him so much. I would love to play for him.

All NBA players to each other: Ni66a you know I ain't playing for that Nazi coach.

[TimDunkem]

All NBA players to media: I love Pop so much and respect him so much. I would love to play for him.

All NBA players to each other: Ni66a you know I ain't playing for that Nazi coach.

Guys want to contribute and win at the same time. They don't want to sit behind 40 year olds and fat aborigional chuckers, or be benched for 10 games because they yelled after a dunk or stubbed their toe in practice.

[UZER]

Guys want to contribute and win at the same time. They don't want to sit behind 40 year olds and fat aborigional chuckers, or be benched for 10 games because they yelled after a dunk or stubbed their toe in practice.

Exactly :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Guys want to contribute and win at the same time. They don't want to sit behind 40 year olds and fat aborigional chuckers, or be benched for 10 games because they yelled after a dunk or stubbed their toe in practice.

word

[spursistan]

Guys want to contribute and win at the same time. They don't want to sit behind 40 year olds and fat aborigional chuckers, or be benched for 10 games because they yelled after a dunk or stubbed their toe in practice.

[spursistan]

lol you don't even hear anymore the token "Spurs are among teams that have shown interest in the recently bought out X player" ..That's how irrelevant this team has been this year ..

[TimDunkem]

lol you don't even hear anymore the token "Spurs are mong teams that have shown interest in the recently bought out X player" ..That's how irrelevant this team has been this year ..

https://i.imgur.com/1m07Vqb.png

[Darius Bieber]

:lolNobody wants to play for this trash team

[Chinook]

No one wants to go to SA over other teams without knowing what's going on with Kawhi. It takes a special type of dumbass to not understand that.

[bklynspursfan]

No one wants to go to SA over other teams without knowing what's going on with Kawhi. It takes a special type of dumbass to not understand that.

Logic doesn't go over well on this site

[UZER]

No one wants to go to SA over other teams without knowing what's going on with Kawhi. It takes a special type of dumbass to not understand that.

Ooooohhh thaaaats whyyyyy.

Because we've all seen how much players fall over themselves to sign here when they finally get the chance.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, don't kid yourself, Nookie and delusional Brooklyn guy. They wouldn't have signed either way.

[KDKSpurs24]

Pretty much rules out the Spurs when Pop's playing Parker, Mills, and Manu off the bench.

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What do they mean “over money”?? He’s gonna get the vet min wherever he goes.

[gambit1990]

Ooooohhh thaaaats whyyyyy.

Because we've all seen how much players fall over themselves to sign here when they finally get the chance.
:lol

[gambit1990]

can't remember the last time i saw beli play. sure his lateral quickness has gotten worse.

wait for robin lopez.

[TheDoctor]

No one wants to go to SA over other teams without knowing what's going on with Kawhi. It takes a special type of dumbass to not understand that.
It’s not just the health of key players, they don’t want to play for Pop/System. How many coveted free agents we landed while OG Tim Duncan was healthy in his prime? Even PATFO failed to acquire Jason Kidd (and supposedly that was a sure thing). I mean, I’m glad, we kept HOTS but FA’s just don’t want to play for Pop. It’s the truth.

[TimDunkem]

can't remember the last time i saw beli play. sure his lateral quickness has gotten worse.

wait for robin lopez.

Spurs aren't waiting for anyone. Let's be honest here...

https://i.imgur.com/1m07Vqb.png

[Seventyniner]

One time the Spurs actually got two "big name" buyouts in Andre Miller and Kevin Martin. How did that turn out?

[r0drig0lac]

Ooooohhh thaaaats whyyyyy.

Because we've all seen how much players fall over themselves to sign here when they finally get the chance.

this, the worst is that there are people agreeing with it

[TheDoctor]

One time the Spurs actually got two "big name" buyouts in Andre Miller and Kevin Martin. How did that turn out?
I’m gonna take that as you forgot to use the blue font tbh

[TimDunkem]

Joe Cool/Wright >>>>> Miller/K-Mart

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LMA isn't going to play exclusively center. He forces teams to play big, since pretty much no power-forwards can guard him. So you won't see a lot of Draymond or Anderson at the five when Aldridge is out there unless there are injuries like the one to Nene last year. With a team using a legit center, the Spurs will have a guy for Pau to guard. Gasol is going to get his minutes, especially if he plays well. He's damned sure going to get more than the least playable of Kyle, Gay or Davis if he doesn't suck. Pop's going to want to protect LMA from the physical pounding of playing the five as much as he can.

Patty's a different story. With Murray starting, he's only playable in niche lineups. Unless Pop has an entirely new way of playing defense hidden up his sleeve, you really don't want either of Parker or Mills against GS' second unit. Having both seems bonkers.

Good take. Yeah, I find the notion of Pau getting limited minutes kind of laughable. The Spurs have most often been at our best when those two are clicking properly in the high low matchups. We have an advantage there. We have been losing games due to guard play, and especially the lack of Kawhi. If healthy, the second unit rotation with having Gay and Kyle on the floor can make up for a lot of the failures of second unit deficiencies against GS' length.

[wildbill2u]

If Kwahi actually decides to move, we will have to trade him next year to get value (assuming he has another great season without injuries) because his next year as a team's option contract will not get us anything. Teams will just sit back and wait.

[Chinook]

Ooooohhh thaaaats whyyyyy.

Because we've all seen how much players fall over themselves to sign here when they finally get the chance.

It might shock you, but yeah. They do just fine in the buyout market typically. Guys are much more willing to try Pop's system for a few months than commit to it for years.

[Chinook]

It’s not just the health of key players, they don’t want to play for Pop/System. How many coveted free agents we landed while OG Tim Duncan was healthy in his prime? Even PATFO failed to acquire Jason Kidd (and supposedly that was a sure thing). I mean, I’m glad, we kept HOTS but FA’s just don’t want to play for Pop. It’s the truth.

The buyout market has always been different for them because the money is usually the same and the chance to win a title factors more heavily into decisions. Right now the team is not a good bet for a title with Kawhi uncertain. Why would anyone pick them over Houston, GS or the East teams? It also doesn't help that a guy like Johnson would only get consistent playing time if Kawhi's out for the year.

[Leetonidas]

When Spurs were a top team contending seriously for titles every year we would always get the vets looking to ring chase during the summer or after being bought out. Not sure why anyone thinks its surprising bought out vets are signing with Houston since they're the only real threat to knock off GS since no one knows wtf is going on with Leonard. Plenty of valid criticism of the FO but this is not one of them imo.

[MaNu4Tres]

Meanwhile, Morey has signed Mbah Moute, Gerald Green, Joe Johnson, Brandan Wright for half the money RC gave Patty at 1201 on July 1st.

Amazing how overrated Patty has been for years and now massively overpaid. At least Patty brought culture to the team, right? -- I mean Spurs had soooo much trouble sustaining culture from role players the previous 20 years...I mean Spurs always had to pay up to bring in culture pieces like Elie, Kerr, Kevin Willis, Vaughn, Marks, Oberto, Bonner, etc.

Can't believe people here defended it. I tried to warn you all how expendable and unnecessary he would be.

[daslicer]

When Spurs were a top team contending seriously for titles every year we would always get the vets looking to ring chase during the summer or after being bought out. Not sure why anyone thinks its surprising bought out vets are signing with Houston since they're the only real threat to knock off GS since no one knows wtf is going on with Leonard. Plenty of valid criticism of the FO but this is not one of them imo.

Pretty much this. Spurs got vets through FA in the past like Barry,Finley,Horry, etc.

[Leetonidas]

Pretty much this. Spurs got vets through FA in the past like Barry,Finley,Horry, etc.

you don't even have to go that far back...McDyess/TJ Ford (who was actually pretty solid until the final injury)/Bobo/David Lee/Belineli/D-West/Andre Miller/K-mart ....the last two suck but only through them in there considering players like Brandan Wright arent that great and Spurs fan is still upset. but those are all vet players who took cheap deals to come ring chase with SA in the last 6-7 years

[TimDunkem]

Meanwhile, Morey has signed Mbah Moute, Gerald Green, Joe Johnson, Brandan Wright for half the money RC gave Patty at 1201 on July 1st.

Amazing how overrated Patty has been for years and now massively overpaid. At least Patty brought culture to the team, right? -- I mean Spurs had soooo much trouble sustaining culture from role players the previous 20 years...I mean Spurs always had to pay up to bring in culture pieces like Elie, Kerr, Kevin Willis, Vaughn, Marks, Oberto, Bonner, etc.

Can't believe people here defended it. I tried to warn you all how expendable and unnecessary he would be.

Who else is going to hang out with Manu and Co when they go on vacation early?

[TheRemix]

Spurs aren't waiting for anyone. Let's be honest here...

https://i.imgur.com/1m07Vqb.png
Lmfao :lol

[daslicer]

you don't even have to go that far back...McDyess/TJ Ford (who was actually pretty solid until the final injury)/Bobo/David Lee/Belineli/D-West/Andre Miller/K-mart ....the last two suck but only through them in there considering players like Brandan Wright arent that great and Spurs fan is still upset. but those are all vet players who took cheap deals to come ring chase with SA in the last 6-7 years

I agree. Another vet I can remember them getting in the past was Gooden who was actually still in his prime at that time. I don't see no point in getting upset about the Rox getting Joe Johnson or Wright since this season is a lost season for the Spurs. The Kawhi injury screwed up the whole entire season and killed any momentum the Spurs could have built up at this point to attract vets. Personally I don't think Kawhi is coming back this year so the bitching about the Spurs not making any moves is all for not. Spur fans are upset at the Mills signing which I can understand why but the continual projection of it every time a rival team makes a move is retarded.

[coachmac87]

People bitch how shitty this team is yet expect buyout candidates to sign....and then continue to bitch when they don’t.

[TheDoctor]

Spurs aren't waiting for anyone. Let's be honest here...

https://i.imgur.com/1m07Vqb.png
:lol

Only time something looked good with RC in it was this:
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/rc-buford-or-not.gif?w=1000

[BatManu20]

People bitch how shitty this team is yet expect buyout candidates to sign....and then continue to bitch when they don’t.

Welcome to ST.

[TheDoctor]

People bitch how shitty this team is yet expect buyout candidates to sign....and then continue to bitch when they don’t.
:lol

[tbdog]

Come on, JJ is done. He couldn't break the Jazz rotation and they are gunning for the playoffs. Wright couldn't get consistent minutes since singing for the Grizzlies. These guys are done. I still think tyson chandler and Brook Lopez could get bought out.

[SAGirl]

No one wants to go to SA over other teams without knowing what's going on with Kawhi. It takes a special type of dumbass to not understand that.
I was going to post this exactly but you beat me to it.

All this whining about Kiwi allegedly complaining is farcical when the dude has been injured almost the entire season and no one knows if he will be back this season. None of these FA would join for a couple of months to help a team with this kind of uncertainty...

[coachmac87]

Welcome to ST.

Lmao touché

[BatManu20]

I still think tyson chandler and Brook Lopez could get bought out.

Brook is doubtful.


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[BatManu20]

Tyson Chandler has a realistic shot of being bought out, but I think he would most likely choose a team like CLE (who would pursue him aggressively) or even Boston, who needs another Center too so that Horford can move over to the 4 and Baynes can be what he is, a backup. Monroe is not the answer as a Defensive presence inside.

[BatManu20]

One name I'd keep an eye on is Tarik Black. With HOU adding both Brendan Wright and Joe Johnson, they're going to have to waive somebody, and Black seems like the most likely candidate since he isn't on the books for any guaranteed money next year and thus, they wouldn't have any dead money on the cap by waiving him.


And I'd absolutely take him in a heartbeat over Joffrey. :shootme

[jermaine]

I'd wet my pants for a real center like Chandler

[daslicer]

Looking at Houston, I don't blame Kawhi now. Spurs with G League players an rockets gets even better

I still blame Kawhi for not playing if he's actually sitting out because of the roster. That's a bitch move to make even lower then what Kobe did with the Lakers back in '07 when he called out the Lakers and said the team was garbage. I still remember Kobe playing despite hating the roster.

[gambit1990]

would definitely take tarik. spurs should make that happen if he gets waived.

[mo7888]

Rashad Vaughn waived by the pelicans

[BatManu20]

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[NASpurs]

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Their bench is actually pretty shitty so I could see this.

[dbestpro]

Spurs ranked 3rd in the west, and already playing for next year.

[jermaine]

I still blame Kawhi for not playing if he's actually sitting out because of the roster. That's a bitch move to make even lower then what Kobe did with the Lakers back in '07 when he called out the Lakers and said the team was garbage. I still remember Kobe playing despite hating the roster.

I kinda feel that same way an posted that same thing. But it's hard looking at our roster an we're ok with this shit.. Pau can't move his feet, I don't trust Rudy's health, an you damn sure can't rely on Forbes

[TD 21]

:lol At people pretending Spurs missed on Johnson and Wright or could have done something to convince them otherwise. Johnson has looked finished and wouldn't have been a rotation player and while Wright would have been nice Aldridge/Gasol insurance, he wouldn't have been either. Barring a turnaround from Johnson, neither figures to be a rotation player with Rockets, either.



Meanwhile, Morey has signed Mbah Moute, Gerald Green, Joe Johnson, Brandan Wright for half the money RC gave Patty at 1201 on July 1st.

Amazing how overrated Patty has been for years and now massively overpaid. At least Patty brought culture to the team, right? -- I mean Spurs had soooo much trouble sustaining culture from role players the previous 20 years...I mean Spurs always had to pay up to bring in culture pieces like Elie, Kerr, Kevin Willis, Vaughn, Marks, Oberto, Bonner, etc.

Can't believe people here defended it. I tried to warn you all how expendable and unnecessary he would be.

You mean, Paul recruited long time buddy Tucker, who turned down slightly more from Raptors because he convinced him they could contend for a championship. He also recruited Mbah a Moute, his teammate with Clippers, who took the minimum because he also believed. The fact that Johnson and Wright committed immediately likely means Harden and/or Paul had been working on them for a while, too. Of course, Harden set this all in motion by recruiting Paul last season.

This is how it works among most of the elite. They form numerous relationships, in part so that if/when situations like this present themselves, they have a leg up in recruiting.

Leonard doesn't seem to understand that you have to play the game within' the game if you want to contend for a championship, especially when your team starts from a place of myriad obstacles.

[exstatic]

Spurs talker: we’re too old!
Spurs talker: I want Joe Johnson. I want Tyson Chandler, too.

What the actual fuck?

[jermaine]

Chandler over anyone. We need another big more than anything

[UZER]

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Don't sign with us, Marco. Sign with GS. It's the best decision for you.

:pop:


Then Pop will give him a Joe Biden molesting hug after they beat us in the playoffs.

[TD 21]

Don't sign with us, Marco. Sign with GS. It's the best decision for you.

:pop:


Then Pop will give him a Joe Biden molesting hug after they beat us in the playoffs.

:lol Only an idiot still living in '14 would want him. This team is filled with shooters not shooting well enough, that can't defend, as is. If/when healthy, he wouldn't be in the rotation and in the meantime, I wouldn't want him taking minutes from younger shooters like Bertans and Forbes or taking the roster spot of Paul, who can at least defend.

[HarlemHeat37]

None of these buyout options are intriguing IMO..if we assume Gay is returning, then Johnson wouldn't make any sense here, he's a small-ball PF who wants to dominate the ball, same as Gay(even ignoring that he's looked finished)..

The buyout market is pure nostalgia, it's a fun time for fans to celebrate the past accomplishments of washed-up players with little to contribute..

Since 2008, only 3 buyout players were ultimately relevant by the end of the season(excluding JR Smith coming from China after the lockout)..PJ Brown as a reserve in 2008, Boris Diaw in 2012 and Birdman in 2013..

[venitian navigator]

Chandler would be an important help...he's still playing decently and he's a big that should play well with LMA (he tried to recruit him two years ago).

[mo7888]

I'd like to see an upgrade for Joff (maybe Willie Reed if baggage isn't to bad)..if we don't do that then I'd like to see us waive Paul and sign Papagianis or Vaughn on a contract non-guaranteed for next year and see if we can salvage anything out of their careers this off-season.

[daslicer]

I kinda feel that same way an posted that same thing. But it's hard looking at our roster an we're ok with this shit.. Pau can't move his feet, I don't trust Rudy's health, an you damn sure can't rely on Forbes

I understand your frustration with the roster and hell it's ok for Kawhi to be frustrated with it. It's not ok for him to be bitch and not play because he doesn't like the roster. I remember reading in the Jordan Rules that MJ hating the bulls roster for years and prior to winning the first title he would be out in the open with the media and say the roster was crap. Despite not approving of the roster MJ still played. Kawhi not playing is not doing his job which is unprofessional. If he truly is this unhappy he should demand a trade. I would actually respect him more versus what he's doing now. I hope Kawhi is actually sitting out due to injury versus what other people are saying because if that's the case it shows a lack of character and competitiveness.

[ace3g]

Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon)

The Mavericks waived veteran forward Josh McRoberts, who played only two games for Dallas after arriving in a summer trade with the Miami Heat.

[spurs10]

I understand your frustration with the roster and hell it's ok for Kawhi to be frustrated with it. It's not ok for him to be bitch and not play because he doesn't like the roster. I remember reading in the Jordan Rules that MJ hating the bulls roster for years and prior to winning the first title he would be out in the open with the media and say the roster was crap. Despite not approving of the roster MJ still played. Kawhi not playing is not doing his job which is unprofessional. If he truly is this unhappy he should demand a trade. I would actually respect him more versus what he's doing now. I hope Kawhi is actually sitting out due to injury versus what other people are saying because if that's the case it shows a lack of character and competitiveness.
There’s no reason to think Kawhi isn’t out due to injury. I think his ‘chacter and competiveness’ are nothing to worry about.

[daslicer]

There’s no reason to think Kawhi isn’t out due to injury. I think his ‘chacter and competiveness’ are nothing to worry about.

Well I hope so.

[jermaine]

Kawhi isn't out cuz he don't like the roster!!! I refuse to believe that.. I just don't an can't see that being the reason.

[Chinook]

I like McRoberts and wish he were healthy. Good shooter, great passer and spectacular finisher.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rockets get Joe Johnson while we continue on with all our scrubs. Disgusting.

[KDKSpurs24]

Rockets get Joe Johnson while we continue on with all our scrubs. Disgusting.
Doesn’t matter. Buyout candidates want to go to contenders. Why would a buyout candidate come to the Spurs when everyone is unsure about Kawhi’s health?

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) now (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/962522838010822657)
Marco Belinelli plans to sign the Philadelphia 76ers once he clears waivers, league sources say.

[Robz4000]

Well fuck

[sananspursfan21]

Well, there's Derrick Rose :lol

[SAGirl]

I like McRoberts and wish he were healthy. Good shooter, great passer and spectacular finisher.
He might be Tiago 2.0.
Dude hasn't been healthy for over 2 years or so and looked done the few times he played (might be bc he was playing through pain, kinda like tiago was).

[spurs10]

Well I hope so. :toast

[tbdog]

I'd like to see an upgrade for Joff (maybe Willie Reed if baggage isn't to bad)..if we don't do that then I'd like to see us waive Paul and sign Papagianis or Vaughn on a contract non-guaranteed for next year and see if we can salvage anything out of their careers this off-season.

I wanted Willie Reed in the offseason. But the guy is a headcase that I never knew.

[Play Boban]

He might be Tiago 2.0.
Dude hasn't been healthy for over 2 years or so and looked done the few times he played (might be bc he was playing through pain, kinda like tiago was).
Stop being racist tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

I like McRoberts and wish he were healthy. Good shooter, great passer and spectacular finisher.

Can he guard SGs like Klay Thompson? If so, I'm all in.

[venitian navigator]

the two guys that, imho, we need in case they're gonna be bought out, are Chandler and Carter...experienced, still relatively healthy and good for a 15 minutes reserve role. The point is that Chandler still has two years of contract, so it's difficult he's gonna bought out. Carter, on the contrary, just has a one year contract, so the chances he's bought out are good. And he would be more than capable of taking Forbes minutes...

[Ice009]

I'd be happy with both Carter and Chandler.

The main reason I wanted Marco is because he can still hit shots. I know his defense sucks, and I was one of the ones aggressively calling for him to not play any minutes in the 2014 playoffs towards the end of the Dallas series, but I'm sick and fucking tired of the guys that are currently on the team with their main skill being shooting the ball, and they can't fucking hit a shot to save their lives. It's fucking pathetic.

[Drewlius]

Corpse of Bobo > Joff, call him.

[gambit1990]

I like McRoberts and wish he were healthy. Good shooter, great passer and spectacular finisher.
yeah, i like him too. didn’t know he was unhealthy. can’t remember the last time i saw him on the floor.

[-21-]

Johnson is washed up and Belinelli wouldn't be much help, the people here asking for his return would probably turn on him the second he steps on the court. Try not to get too frustrated about missing out on them.

[Brunodf]

Johnson is washed up and Belinelli wouldn't be much help, the people here asking for his return would probably turn on him the second he steps on the court. Try not to get too frustrated about missing out on them.
People have selective memory and only remember the positive things about Marco.

They already forgot that Belinelli led so many comeback runs for the enemy team in the playoffs the last time he played for the Spurs

[cd021]

If Pau is really staying in his current role of backup 5 then Rolo, Chandler, or whatever five seems repetitive.

I'm more interested in seeig if this team can get healthy and see what a Murray, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, LMA and a Parker, Manu, Gay, Anderson, and Gasol units looks like.

[TimDunkem]

I'm more interested in seeig if this team can get healthy and see what a Murray, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, LMA and a Parker, Manu, Gay, Anderson, and Gasol units looks like.

Kawhi can't even wipe his own ass yet.

[cd021]

Kawhi can't even wipe his own ass yet.
Sad but true tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

I say he goes to GS or OKC.

Swaggy has been a disappointment and he could start or be the main guard for OKC off the bench.

I figured Philly since they're a mid-tier team with a horrible bench, he'll get plenty of touches.. Belinelli sucks under pressure, he isn't built to play important basketball:lol he thrives in underdog situations and he will get touches there, it's perfect for him..

[MaNu4Tres]

I figured Philly since they're a mid-tier team with a horrible bench, he'll get plenty of touches.. Belinelli sucks under pressure, he isn't built to play important basketball:lol he thrives in underdog situations and he will get touches there, it's perfect for him..

Good call. I agree with your whole explanation.

[ace3g]

76ers found a way to sign 2 Belis?



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R. Holmes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2993370/richaun-holmes) PF
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M. Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4297352/marco-belinelli) F
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J. Bayless (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3417/jerryd-bayless) PG
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M. Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190/marco-belinelli) SG
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[ace3g]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.

Again, yes I know we have injuries, but part of that is because we don't have the depth in right areas of the roster to deal with those injuries. Still confused front office didn't realize this last year after Kawhi went down? Should have added more 3/D type players and let them develop instead of 6'4 or shorter guards... Today's NBA your roster should consist mostly of SFs.

[TimDunkem]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.

Again, yes I know we have injuries, but part of that is because we don't have the depth in right areas of the roster to deal with those injuries. Still confused front office didn't realize this last year after Kawhi went down? Should have added more 3/D type players and let them develop instead of 6'4 or shorter guards... Today's NBA your roster should consist mostly of SFs.

And 3pt shooters, playmakers, and bigs who can switch on a pick and roll.

Instead, our best shooters are some of the worst in the league, our best and only real playmakers are 36 and 40 years old, and our bigs are getting carved up by guys like Joe Ingles.

Injuries are one thing, but this is pathetic.

[sasaint]

And 3pt shooters, playmakers, and bigs who can switch on a pick and roll.

Instead, our best shooters are some of the worst in the league, our best and only real playmakers are 36 and 40 years old, and our bigs are getting carved up by guys like Joe Ingles.

Injuries are one thing, but this is pathetic.

Yep. A truly startling and demoralizing state of affairs for a franchise like the Spurs.

[NASpurs]

I hope these motherfuckers don't blame injuries as to the reason why they failed this year and tried to bring back "the gang" one more time. It's time to hit the reset button and let go off the past, move on from the trash and see if you can build for the future.

[objective]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.

Again, yes I know we have injuries, but part of that is because we don't have the depth in right areas of the roster to deal with those injuries. Still confused front office didn't realize this last year after Kawhi went down? Should have added more 3/D type players and let them develop instead of 6'4 or shorter guards... Today's NBA your roster should consist mostly of SFs.

If they've lost you, that's crazy. Can't blame you. I'd settle for a G-League big or euro instead of a buyout.

Ship be sinking.

[weeks]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.
:wow

[Chinook]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.

Again, yes I know we have injuries, but part of that is because we don't have the depth in right areas of the roster to deal with those injuries. Still confused front office didn't realize this last year after Kawhi went down? Should have added more 3/D type players and let them develop instead of 6'4 or shorter guards... Today's NBA your roster should consist mostly of SFs.

At least stay in the Toros thread.

[objective]

If ace3g doesn't post until the playoffs ... Is he guaranteed to even post again in 2018?

[Hoops Czar]

At least stay in the Toros thread.

Every thread is the Toros thread.

[Spurs da champs]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.

Again, yes I know we have injuries, but part of that is because we don't have the depth in right areas of the roster to deal with those injuries. Still confused front office didn't realize this last year after Kawhi went down? Should have added more 3/D type players and let them develop instead of 6'4 or shorter guards... Today's NBA your roster should consist mostly of SFs.
Pop must be obsessed with the Mavs title team, they consistently ran 3 guard lineups. Such a shame, it cant be done in today's league.

[r0drig0lac]

Welp if Spurs don't add someone from buyout (anyone - I don't care, just tired of makeup of this team, wait take 2...someone taller than 6'4 and no stiff 7 footer) I won't post again till playoffs.

Again, yes I know we have injuries, but part of that is because we don't have the depth in right areas of the roster to deal with those injuries. Still confused front office didn't realize this last year after Kawhi went down? Should have added more 3/D type players and let them develop instead of 6'4 or shorter guards... Today's NBA your roster should consist mostly of SFs.
I've been preaching this for more than one season, look at the roster of Utah jazz and even Los Angeles Clippers, they are much better built than ours.

[John B]

I've been preaching this for more than one season, look at the roster of Utah jazz and even Los Angeles Clippers, they are much better built than ours.

:lol Number 9 and 10 in the standings