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RandomGuy
02-16-2018, 02:24 PM
In June 2017, the Russian military launched the most destructive and costly cyber-attack in history.

The attack, dubbed “NotPetya,” quickly spread worldwide, causing billions of dollars in damage across Europe, Asia, and the Americas. It was part of the Kremlin’s ongoing effort to destabilize Ukraine and demonstrates ever more clearly Russia’s involvement in the ongoing conflict. This was also a reckless and indiscriminate cyber-attack that will be met with international consequences.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-25/



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Now what do we do about it?

hater
02-16-2018, 02:28 PM
100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths vs a computer virus

Ill take 3 orders of the PC virus please and a subscription to mcafee

RandomGuy
02-16-2018, 02:29 PM
100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths vs a computer virus

Ill take 3 orders of the PC virus please and a subscription to mcafee

In June 2017, the Russian military launched the most destructive and costly cyber-attack in history.

hater
02-16-2018, 02:32 PM
Even if true how many civilians died?

Some rich ppl lost money let me cry abut that a minute :lol

Every nation makes viuses

The most powerful one was actually the US/Israeli one that caused Iranian nuclear scientists deaths

RandomGuy
02-16-2018, 02:40 PM
Even if true how many civilians died?

Some rich ppl lost money let me cry abut that a minute :lol

Every nation makes viuses

The most powerful one was actually the US/Israeli one that caused Iranian nuclear scientists deaths

In June 2017, the Russian military launched the most destructive and costly cyber-attack in history.

hater
02-16-2018, 02:40 PM
Still not buying what you selling bro

Every developed nation makes viruses. :rolleyes

RandomGuy
02-16-2018, 02:41 PM
Even if true

www.whitehouse.gov

RandomGuy
02-16-2018, 02:42 PM
Still not buying what you selling bro

Every developed nation makes viruses. :rolleyes

Feel free to point out the most costly French military cyber attack. :rollin

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 02:43 PM
www.whitehouse.govlol hater

Mark Celibate
02-16-2018, 02:49 PM
Gotta have more than just an assertion to take action against another country. Fbi can’t even stop a guy making threats on YouTube but somehow US intelligence is going to conclusively pin this on Russia? I’m still looking for proof of the so called collusion. so far the best they’ve come up with is a dozen private citizens did stuff unbeknownst to the trump campaign. Hardly the smoking gun we were all waiting for. About as many or more private USA citizens went to fight for Isis, does that mean the USA supported Isis and needs to be sanctioned?

clambake
02-16-2018, 02:50 PM
or is it "tick tock"

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 02:53 PM
Gotta have more than just an assertion to take action against another country. Fbi can’t even stop a guy making threats on YouTube but somehow US intelligence is going to conclusively pin this on Russia? I’m still looking for proof of the so called collusion. so far the best they’ve come up with is a dozen private citizens did stuff unbeknownst to the trump campaign. Hardly the smoking gun we were all waiting for. About as many or more private USA citizens went to fight for Isis, does that mean the USA supported Isis and needs to be sanctioned?Why do you defend Russia?

Mark Celibate
02-16-2018, 02:58 PM
To chap your ass for one, for two because it’s the truth. This country needs to ally with Russia and India against mutual threats for our long term stability. Globalists would rather ally with China and Pakistan, and are willing to spread false information about Russia in order to demonize them and prevent any warming up of relations. It’s stupid and harmful foreign policy and threatens us all with nuclear holocaust.

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 03:01 PM
To chap your ass for one, for two because it’s the truth. This country needs to ally with Russia and India against mutual threats for our long term stability. Globalists would rather ally with China and Pakistan, and are willing to spread false information about Russia in order to demonize them and prevent any warming up of relations. It’s stupid and harmful foreign policy and threatens us all with nuclear holocaust.What is your proof it's false information from the Trump administration today?

Mark Celibate
02-16-2018, 03:04 PM
Burden of proof is on the one making the claim

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 03:10 PM
Burden of proof is on the one making the claimWhy do you not believe the Trump administration?

Who do you think it was instead?

Mark Celibate
02-16-2018, 03:11 PM
Why do you not believe the Trump administration?

Who do you think it was instead?

because I need proof to back up the claim.

Warlord23
02-16-2018, 03:15 PM
To chap your ass for one, for two because it’s the truth. This country needs to ally with Russia and India against mutual threats for our long term stability. Globalists would rather ally with China and Pakistan, and are willing to spread false information about Russia in order to demonize them and prevent any warming up of relations. It’s stupid and harmful foreign policy and threatens us all with nuclear holocaust.

Aren't you the loser that was whining about Indian IT guys taking US jobs? Now you want to ally with India?

Chucho
02-16-2018, 03:15 PM
So, what does anyone want done about it? For the "largest cyber attack in history" it sure took a fucking long time for this to come to the public domain.

You'd think the "largest cyber attack in history" would have done some damage domestically to earn the moniker "largest cyber attack in history" to get some kind of news coverage like you'd expect from the "largest cyber attack ever".

Seems like it might be "the slowest, most ineffectual largest cyber attack ever".

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 03:18 PM
because I need proof to back up the claim.What proof would satisfy you?

Who do you think it was instead?

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 03:23 PM
So, what does anyone want done about it? For the "largest cyber attack in history" it sure took a fucking long time for this to come to the public domain.

You'd think the "largest cyber attack in history" would have done some damage domestically to earn the moniker "largest cyber attack in history" to get some kind of news coverage like you'd expect from the "largest cyber attack ever".

Seems like it might be "the slowest, most ineffectual largest cyber attack ever".It was mainly directed at Ukraine. Some US companies were affected.

Chucho
02-16-2018, 03:24 PM
It was mainly directed at Ukraine. Some US companies were affected.

So, what is a reasonable expectation for the US government to do?

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 03:27 PM
So, what is a reasonable expectation for the US government to do?Implementation of the last sanction law passed is reasonable.

Chucho
02-16-2018, 03:27 PM
Implementation of the last sanction law passed is reasonable.

Sounds reasonable.

Mark Celibate
02-16-2018, 03:30 PM
Who do you think it was instead?
How the hell are we supposed to know without any proof? You’d need evidence in order to form a conclusion?

boutons_deux
02-16-2018, 03:32 PM
"ally with Russia!"

Pootin is taking down America, trying to replace democracies with autocracies, with "Russian asset" Trash helping out.

"ally with Russia!" :lol

goddamn, rightwingnutjobs are fucking stupid

Pavlov
02-16-2018, 03:34 PM
How the hell are we supposed to know without any proof? You’d need evidence in order to form a conclusion?What would you accept as proof?

Mark Celibate
02-16-2018, 04:01 PM
Evidence that proved the claim? Anything that could be acceptable in a court of law, legally valid evidence that this occurred. Basically nothing circumstantial.

hater
02-16-2018, 04:30 PM
www.whitehouse.gov

:lmao what does that mean

rjv
02-16-2018, 04:31 PM
once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.

hater
02-16-2018, 04:41 PM
To chap your ass for one, for two because it’s the truth. This country needs to ally with Russia and India against mutual threats for our long term stability. Globalists would rather ally with China and Pakistan, and are willing to spread false information about Russia in order to demonize them and prevent any warming up of relations. It’s stupid and harmful foreign policy and threatens us all with nuclear holocaust.

Agree with most of this. Except US stupidity has caused Russia-China alliance to fortify and I dont see either breaking up this alliance for a country that threatns to nuke countries on a daily basis

Agree with your last statement as well. I am american and have lots of assets in US. If I could pick between US and Russia Id pick US. But it does not work that way, the nukes will go both ways and will mean the end of all of us.

We won the cold war vs Soviets and instead of thinking of peace we went in to loot Russia and then started wars all over the world. We are a sad militaristic oligarchy that needs a cold war to keep on living. World peace would be the end of the US mpire

koriwhat
02-16-2018, 04:45 PM
"ally with Russia!"

Pootin is taking down America, trying to replace democracies with autocracies, with "Russian asset" Trash helping out.

"ally with Russia!" :lol

goddamn, rightwingnutjobs are fucking stupid

lol the insane pointing fingers and diagnosing others. go see your doc already!

boutons_deux
02-16-2018, 04:56 PM
once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.

sure, USA is exceptional, better than all other countries,

USA does unto other countries, but other countries better not do anything to USA.

USA is the most dangerous, peace-violating country on the planet, and proud of it.

"Why Do They Hate Us?"

hater
02-16-2018, 04:59 PM
Feel free to point out the most costly French military cyber attack. :rollin

Here ya go :lmao

Another 2013 story in Le Monde concerned a cyber-attack on Iran's nuclear installations, which also targeted computers in Canada, Spain, Greece, Norway, Algeria and Ivory Coast. In a note leaked by Snowden, Canadian officials said they were fairly certain that the attack had been mounted by a French intelligence agency. The French government denied any involvement.

But at his old school, Barbier said that when the Canadians reverse-engineered the malware, they found that its programmer had nicknamed it "Babar" and signed it "Titi," two clues that led them to believe he was French.

"And he was," said Barbier, without acknowledging which agency, if any, the programmer worked for.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3118323/yes-us-did-hack-elyse-palace-in-2012-french-ex-spy-says.amp.html


Like Obama said everyone hacks and spies on each other :lmao

hater
02-16-2018, 05:02 PM
Very interesting story on that same article. US been caught hacking French Elections :lmao

There was that time he caught the U.S. National Security Agency delving into computers at the Elysée Palace, residence of the French president, for example. And flew to Washington to tell them they'd been found out. Or when the Canadians said they -- and the Iranians, the Spaniards, the Algerians and a few others -- had all been hacked by a Frenchman, and they were totally right, although the French government denied it.

The first concerned the run-up to the 2012 French presidential election, when the DGSE found malware on computers at the presidential residence, the Elysée Palace.

Two years previously, that same malware had been used in an attack on the European Commission, he told them.

By 2012, the DGSE had the means at its disposal to identify the origin of the new attack, Barbier said. He concluded that it could only have been the U.S., and using a technique that, thanks to Edward Snowden, we now know as Quantum Insert.


The following year, he said, the new president sent him to Washington to complain to the director of the NSA, Keith Alexander.

"We were sure it was them. Alexander wasn't happy. In the end, he said, 'Bernard, well done. ... You French are good,' meaning he thought we'd never catch them," Barbier told the students.

Trill Clinton
02-16-2018, 10:46 PM
They had a online group names "woke blacks":lol

FuzzyLumpkins
02-17-2018, 05:03 AM
once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.

It's not the 1960s-70s anymore.

pgardn
02-17-2018, 09:00 AM
once again the sanctimonious U.S. accusing another nation of doing what we do as much, and often more, than other countries. the line of countries that would line up with the chance to indict the U.S. governments and corporations for such invasions would go on for miles. in the meantime, the fact that foreign money does more to influence our elections goes undeterred.

Yet this sanctimonious country tells on itself.
And is allowed to. The 4th branch of the government (read press), allows us to search and find out what we believe to be truthful. We have access to info. Now sadly, it appears a significant number of people search for anything that bolsters their twisted worldview, this is a problem. Believing utubes about how we are being duped concerning moon landings. Never question how difficult this would be to pull off, or more importantly, what the motive for lying is. I'm hoping this kind of shit is not a part of the Trump effect. Lying is OK

hater
02-17-2018, 09:04 AM
It's not the 1960s-70s anymore.

LOL forgetting Edward Snowdens revlations :lol

pgardn
02-17-2018, 09:18 AM
LOL forgetting Edward Snowdens revlations :lol

Who broke that?

Were Is the best analysis on that situation from?

boutons_deux
02-17-2018, 11:22 AM
It's not the 1960s-70s anymore.

US invaded Iraq for BigOil in the 2000s, and is still there and illegally in 100+ countries. US fucked up democratically elected regimes in Central and South America in the 1970s, 1980s. Refugess from Central America are STILL seeking asylum in USA from violence derived from USA's intervention.

America, the "country of peace". The world would be so much better without USA's Capitalist Empire fucking up the planet.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-17-2018, 02:08 PM
LOL forgetting Edward Snowdens revlations :lol

There is a difference between surveillance and attacking a country's financial and electoral system.

hater
02-17-2018, 02:41 PM
There is a difference between surveillance and attacking a country's financial and electoral system.

So when we do it its survillance but when Russia does it its hacking and an act of war

Got it :lmao :lmao

pgardn
02-17-2018, 03:25 PM
These Trumpies were being told

"On August 20, we want to gather patriots on the start of Floridian towns and cities and march to unite America and support Donald Trump!
Florida is still a purple state and we need to appoint it red,”

thought it was strange, and went back to building a cage with Clinton sitting in it per orders and $

Now this is starting to get really funny, Da?

They even got after Rubio in Florida.
This is hilarious. Can't wait to read the rest of this stuff, work calls.

pgardn
02-17-2018, 03:30 PM
Oh

and...

God bless you Robert Mueller.
The comedy is just beginning.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-17-2018, 05:29 PM
So when we do it its survillance but when Russia does it its hacking and an act of war

Got it :lmao :lmao

Bank fraud and theft is now surveillance?

Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:31 PM
Bank fraud and theft is now surveillance?hater never knows what he's talking about.

Ever.

hater
02-17-2018, 05:32 PM
Bank fraud and theft is now surveillance?

Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

Is stealing information not theft?

koriwhat
02-17-2018, 05:54 PM
Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

Is stealing information not theft?

not when obama does it... seems to be the narrative.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-17-2018, 06:15 PM
Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

Is stealing information not theft?

I get that you are trying to make a moral equivalence to excuse your preferred nation state but it's not a compelling argument. Nevermind that the American people widely denounced the NSA's surveillance.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-17-2018, 06:16 PM
not when obama does it... seems to be the narrative.

Dim, the programs were created following 9/11 and extended by your most recent GOP congress. Both parties are culpable.

pgardn
02-17-2018, 06:50 PM
Just because its not bankfraud doesnt make it legal


Installing malware in French presidential office or Angela merkels phone is not a crime?

Is stealing information not theft?

This is commonly known as spying. And it's an ultra dirty business. Even among allies. See Israel/US

Screwing with democratic elections is on a new level for US/Russia relations.
So... Why have we not messed with Putin's re-election campaigns and voting?

boutons_deux
02-17-2018, 06:53 PM
Why have we not messed with Putin's re-election campaigns and voting?

USA helped Ukraine Nazis overthrow Pootin's puppet in Ukraine

Pootin HATED Hillary because she called his election as illegit, fraudulent.

hater
02-17-2018, 06:54 PM
I get that you are trying to make a moral equivalence to excuse your preferred nation state but it's not a compelling argument. Nevermind that the American people widely denounced the NSA's surveillance.

You are the one excusing your prefered nation state with that post :lol

pgardn
02-17-2018, 07:05 PM
I get that you are trying to make a moral equivalence to excuse your preferred nation state but it's not a compelling argument. Nevermind that the American people widely denounced the NSA's surveillance.

This seems to have escaped the Trumpeters as they still, much like Donald, can't stand anything that makes our current president's election look strange. It's a level of insecurity that leads them to denounce intelligence gathering (FBI). We all know OUR past indiscretions. They are not pretty. Our press has played a major role in bringing our past ill fated attempts to manipulate other countries to light. But now, the entire press has been compromised as well because the press will point out Donald's nonchalant, inexhaustible lying.

I really hope its not about 1/3 of our voting population that is infected with the paranoiac virus.

pgardn
02-17-2018, 07:15 PM
USA helped Ukraine Nazis overthrow Pootin's puppet in Ukraine

Pootin HATED Hillary because she called his election as illegit, fraudulent.

The Ukraine has had a history of corrupt leadership. It's Eastern Europe Soviet style. Are you saying the revolt that was taking place was started by US? Nope. If you are saying once it got underway we played a role, sketchy. If you are saying we helped Chocolate magnate, yep. The same people overthrew another corrupt leader BEFORE Russia's puppet. She was fine with US but she got the same treatment as Putin's puppet.

hater
02-17-2018, 09:57 PM
“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically

:lol

pgardn
02-17-2018, 10:23 PM
“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically

:lol

No historical context whatsoever.
Of course we have done this.
WE have books written about it bozo, WE write them.

Where is the Russian press on this one?
What does RT news got for you?

And this is part of the point. It is illegal for foreign or US citizens to take cash from a dictator in Russia who plans not only attempting to ruin free and fair elections, but also authorizes screwing around with the finances of private companies and government agencies. You get payed by Putin the thug, you go to jail if we can get you.

We have probably reciprocated in some way Putin knows about and we will read about at some future date. Because we have a real press.

koriwhat
02-18-2018, 02:51 PM
Dim, the programs were created following 9/11 and extended by your most recent GOP congress. Both parties are culpable.

Dim, they're your parties left and right. now go back to eating dirt with your parents.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-18-2018, 05:31 PM
You are the one excusing your prefered nation state with that post :lol

I said that most of the US populace didn't support it. I never said they were the same nor that it was okay. That is you, mr sandinistas.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-18-2018, 05:33 PM
Dim, they're your parties left and right. now go back to eating dirt with your parents.

:lol No one buys that line, Joey. I certainly don't. Everyone knows you are a GOPotard through word and action.

It's interesting that the whole board has shit on you for this type of thing for months now but you still come back for more. Even if you are just trolling you would hope you would have the intelligence to try a different route. Alas, you are not remotely.

SnakeBoy
02-18-2018, 09:58 PM
NotPetya virus
The NotPetya virus superficially resembles Petya in several ways: it encrypts the master file table and flashes up a screen requesting a Bitcoin ransom to restore access to the files. But there are a number of important ways in which it's different, and much more dangerous:

NotPetya spreads on its own. The original Petya required the victim to download it from a spam email, launch it, and give it admin permissions. NotPetya exploits several different methods to spread without human intervention. The original infection vector appears to be via a backdoor planted in M.E.Doc, an accounting software package that's used by almost every company Ukraine. Having infected computers from Medoc’s servers, NotPetya used a variety of techniques to spread to other computers, including EternalBlue and EternalRomance, two exploits developed by the United States NSA to take advantage a flaw in the Windows implementation of the SMB protocol. It can also take advantage of a tool called Mimi Katz to find network administration credentials in the infected machine's memory, and then use the PsExec and WMIC tools built into Windows to remotely access other computers on the local network and infect them as well.

NotPetya encrypts everything. The NotPetya malware goes far beyond the original Petya trick of encrypting the master boot record, going after a number of other files to seriously screw up your hard drive.

NotPetya isn't ransomware. This is in fact the most shocking — and important — thing about NotPetya. It looks like ransomware, complete with a screen informing the victim that they can decrypt their files if they send Bitcoin to a specified wallet. For Petya, this screen includes an identifying that they're supposed to send along with the ransom; the attackers use this code to figure out which victim just paid up. But on computers infected with NotPetya, this number is just randomly generated and would be of no help in identifying anything. And it turns out that in the process of encrypting the data, NotPetya damages it beyond repair.

So what's NotPetya's real purpose? The fact that it saw an abrupt and radical improvement in efficiency over its Petya ancestor implies a creator with a lot of resources — a state intelligence or cyberwarfare agency, say. That, combined with the 2017 attack's focus on the Ukraine, caused many to point their finger at Russia, with whom Ukraine has been involved in a low-level conflict since the occupation of Crimea in 2014. This accusation was taken up by the Ukrainian government itself, and many Western sources agree, including the U.S. and U.K.; Russia has denied involvement, pointing out that NotPetya infected many Russian computers as well.

Damn those Russians using our shit to spread their shit

pgardn
02-18-2018, 11:12 PM
Damn those Russians using our shit to spread their shit


Good thing the Russians can vote Putin out... what a sec...

RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 10:52 AM
Damn those Russians using our shit to spread their shit

Eyup. The cyber arms race is not pretty.

RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 10:55 AM
Good thing the Russians can vote Putin out... what a sec...

Google "Putin critic dead"

Seems to be a pretty hazardous thing to do. The ones that wind up dead on Putin's birthday are kind of hard to ignore.

koriwhat
02-19-2018, 05:58 PM
:lol No one buys that line, Joey. I certainly don't. Everyone knows you are a GOPotard through word and action.

It's interesting that the whole board has shit on you for this type of thing for months now but you still come back for more. Even if you are just trolling you would hope you would have the intelligence to try a different route. Alas, you are not remotely.

through word and action... you're so fucking pathetic... what word and more so what actions prove your bs? please, do tell.

you're so hard up to prove i'm something i'm not for what exactly?

and lol at the "i'm smarter than you blah blah your intelligence blah blah" angle. you're nothing but a pussy with his nose sky high into the air.

eat dirt! bet your parents wouldn't mind sharing some with you like they shared their wealth. loser!

Winehole23
08-23-2018, 09:20 AM
netted out in Wired:


The release of NotPetya was an act of cyberwar (https://www.wired.com/tag/cyberwar/) by almost any definition—one that was likely more explosive than even its creators intended. Within hours of its first appearance, the worm raced beyond Ukraine and out to countless machines around the world, from hospitals in Pennsylvania to a chocolate factory in Tasmania. It *crippled multinational companies including Maersk, pharmaceutical giant Merck, FedEx’s European subsidiary TNT Express, French construction company Saint-Gobain, food producer Mondelēz, and manufacturer Reckitt Benckiser. In each case, it inflicted nine-figure costs. It even spread back to Russia, striking the state oil company Rosneft.


The result was more than $10 billion in total damages, according to a White House assessment confirmed to WIRED by former Homeland Security adviser Tom Bossert (https://www.wired.com/2017/02/tom-bossert-trump-cybersecurity/), who at the time of the attack was President Trump’s most senior cybersecurity-*focused official. Bossert and US intelligence agencies also confirmed in February (https://www.wired.com/story/white-house-russia-notpetya-attribution/) that Russia’s military—the prime suspect in any cyberwar attack targeting Ukraine—was responsible for launching the malicious code.
https://www.wired.com/story/notpetya-cyberattack-ukraine-russia-code-crashed-the-world/

clambake
08-23-2018, 09:25 AM
i guess the only thing we can do about it is drop the sanctions.

boutons_deux
08-23-2018, 09:40 AM
Pootin's cyberwarriors wreaking multi-$B damages across the planet

but Russian "intelligence asset" Trash invites Pootin to the WH

FrostKing
08-23-2018, 09:58 AM
Pootin's cyberwarriors wreaking multi-$B damages across the planet

but Russian "intelligence asset" Trash invites Pootin to the WH
Cringe

Discuss politics like an adult. Putin and Trump. No need for grade school nicknames

RandomGuy
08-23-2018, 10:53 AM
netted out in Wired:

https://www.wired.com/story/notpetya-cyberattack-ukraine-russia-code-crashed-the-world/

(bows to WH's search before posting discipline)