View Full Version : Calls For FBI Director To Resign After School Shootings?
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:24 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/17/fbi-director-under-pressure-to-resign-after-florida-school-shooting.html
Pressure is mounting on the FBI director to resign after his agency admitted it failed to investigate a warning that the man accused of killing 17 people at a Florida high school possessed a gun and the desire to kill.
The disclosure spread angry disbelief among residents of the Miami suburb of Parkland where Wednesday's massacre unfolded, and led Florida's governor Rick Scott to call for FBI chief Christopher Wray to resign.
"The FBI's failure to take action against this killer is unacceptable," Scott, a Republican, said in a statement. "We constantly promote 'See something, say something', and a courageous person did just that to the FBI. And the FBI failed to act."
I think it's interesting that the governor said that people must feel confident in the follow-through. And I don't believe that such incompetence should be tolerated. But I'd like to hear the counter arguments. Which one of you bitches are gonna say it's but a local field office problem?
Also, I saw another high ranking Florida official call for his resignation. I think it may have been the attorney general or deputy attorney general; but I cannot recall for sure.
Note: And that's how that's done RandomGuy You put other people's work in the quote box. You don't make it look like it's your own output, bitch.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:27 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/17/fbi-director-under-pressure-to-resign-after-florida-school-shooting.html
I think it's interesting that the governor said that people must feel confident in the follow-through. And I don't believe that such incompetence should be tolerated. But I'd like to hear the counter arguments. Which one of you bitches are gonna say it's but a local field office problem?
Also, I saw another high ranking Florida official call for his resignation. I think it may have been the attorney general or deputy attorney general; but I cannot recall for sure.
Note: And that's how that's done RandomGuy You put other people's work in the quote box. You don't make it look like it's your own output, bitch.4) butthurt grudge post
The only person on the board who couldn't figure out he was quoting someone was you.
And the Broward County Sheriff's office got about 20 calls regarding Cruz. Are Florida officials going after them too?
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:30 PM
4) butthurt grudge post
Ooo! Another ticket from the register! It's too bad these things don't have any value; I'd be rich!
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:31 PM
Ooo! Another ticket from the register. It's too bad these things don't have any value; I'd be rich!It's what you do.
Don't get angry because you're predictable.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:32 PM
The only person on the board who couldn't figure out he was quoting someone was you.
#95 Making excuses for your buddy's continued lazy, incompetent posts.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:33 PM
#95 Making excuses for your buddy's continued lazy, incompetent posts.It was perfectly fine.
You're just an idiot who holds grudges against the people who expose your idiocy.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:34 PM
It's what you do.
I see your blue pill dose was extra strong this morning and that you presumably voted that the FBI director shouldn't resign. Yea, what's a dozen or so kids' lifeless bodies at the end of the day. He should enjoy his cushy job in peace.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:35 PM
It was perfectly fine.
You're just an idiot who holds grudges against the people who expose your idiocy.
Your tears are rollin' down those cheeks.
Rich coming from Rick Scott.
Should he resign from his post for being an NRA darling and lacky? Two faced prick.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:43 PM
Rich coming from Rick Scott.
Should he resign from his post for being an NRA darling and lacky? Two faced prick.
Ad hominem.
Should the FBI director resign due to his utter incompetence that led to the deaths of 17 people, mostly minors?
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:44 PM
I see your blue pill dose was extra strong this morning and that you presumably voted that the FBI director shouldn't resign. Yea, what's a dozen or so kids' lifeless bodies at the end of the day. He should enjoy his cushy job in peace.So, no comment on the 20 calls to the sheriff's office?
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:45 PM
Ad hominem.
Should the FBI director resign due to his utter incompetence that led to the deaths of 17 people, mostly minors?What specifically did Wray do or not do in this case?
Explain.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:45 PM
So, no comment on the 20 calls to the sheriff's office?
Regardless of your aspersion, why shouldn't the FBI director be fired?
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 05:46 PM
What specifically did Wray do or not do in this case?
Explain.
He oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors. I guess that's not enough for you.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 05:46 PM
Regardless of your aspersion, why shouldn't the FBI director be fired?What specifically did Wray do or not do in this case?
Explain and I'll answer your question. I need more information from you.
Ad hominem.
Should the FBI director resign due to his utter incompetence that led to the deaths of 17 people, mostly minors?
Nope and nope.
Where is the ad hominem? Is he not in the pocket of the NRA? Is he actually doing something to keep these guns from people who shouldn't have them?
Chris Wray should absolutely not resign for this.
It's too bad they missed it and I bet you this won't happen again. If every FBI directors resign for one missed lead (out of thousands they get) then get used to a new director every 9 months.
Chris
02-17-2018, 06:19 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWL1sovWAAADP-d.jpg:large
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 06:23 PM
What specifically did Wray do or not do in this case?
Explain and I'll answer your question. I need more information from you.
He oversaw an incompetent system that led to 17 dead person as I said. That's okay by you though.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 06:24 PM
Nope and nope.
Where is the ad hominem? Is he not in the pocket of the NRA? Is he actually doing something to keep these guns from people who shouldn't have them?
Chris Wray should absolutely not resign for this.
It's too bad they missed it and I bet you this won't happen again. If every FBI directors resign for one missed lead (out of thousands they get) then get used to a new director every 9 months.
So to recap: As long as the second amendment exists, deadly incompetence is okay by you.
boutons_deux
02-17-2018, 06:26 PM
"I bet you this won't happen again"
I bet it will, because there are real tips, to extract from probably a huge group of tips that are useless.
And what does FBI or local LE do about a "real" tip about someone who has not committed any crime or even have a record?
And how many school or other gun massacres have there been where the FBI, or anybody, was not tipped at all?
Sessions, Repugs, and rightwingnut assholes going after the FBI is blatantly a continuation of their strategy to de-legitimize the FBI as it throws a rope around Trash's and others fat, greasy necks.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 06:31 PM
He oversaw an incompetent system that led to 17 dead person as I said. That's okay by you though.So he did nothing specific in this case?
And nothing about the 20 calls to the sheriff's office?
Pretty selective outrage you got there.
monosylab1k
02-17-2018, 06:36 PM
:lmao this thing couldn’t be a more transparent ploy if we literally watched Trump whisper into Rick Scott’s ear before he makes each statement.
Chris
02-17-2018, 06:43 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DxVy66k.gif
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 06:43 PM
So he did nothing specific in this case?
Yup. I guess nothing is enough for you. It's not his job to get potential mass murderers off the street or nothing.
Chris
02-17-2018, 07:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWPvdZ5U0AEU3eB.jpg
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 08:16 PM
Yup. I guess nothing is enough for you. It's not his job to get potential mass murderers off the street or nothing.
:lol
So nothing about the 20 calls to the sheriff?
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 08:33 PM
:lol
So nothing about the 20 calls to the sheriff?
Make a thread on it if it's important to you.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 08:37 PM
Make a thread on it if it's important to you.:lol all the dead people aren't important to you after all.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 08:39 PM
:lol all the dead people aren't important to you after all.
Indulging your aspersion from the topic isn't important to me. Why do you make excuses for the FBI director's incompetence?
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 08:42 PM
Indulging your aspersion from the topic isn't important to me. Why do you make excuses for the FBI director's incompetence?
You just proved you don't give a shit about those dead kids, only whatever political talking point you've been ordered to make.
Sad!
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 08:46 PM
You just proved you don't give a shit about those dead kids, only whatever political talking point you've been ordered to make.
Sad!
I've said nothing political. I expect people in power to do their jobs, or they don't need to be in the job. You have lesser values than I.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 08:49 PM
I've said nothing political. I expect people in power to do their jobs, or they don't need to be in the job. You have lesser values than I.
You don't give a shit about the dead kids. Just politics. You proved it.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 08:51 PM
You don't give a shit about the dead kids. Just politics. You proved it.
I gave a shit to make this thread and call for the FBI director's resignation. You're the one who has decided that your politics should take precedence. It's quite sad; but to be honest not unexpected. You're a piece of shit person at the end of the day.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 08:53 PM
I gave a shit to make this thread and call for the FBI director's resignation. You're the one who has decided that your politics should take precedence. It's quite sad; but to be honest not unexpected. You're a piece of shit person at the end of the day.
You don't care about the 20 calls to the sheriff.
You don't care about dead kids.
Only politics-- getting rid of a guy who dared contradict Trump.
Chucho
02-17-2018, 08:56 PM
You don't care about the 20 calls to the sheriff.
You don't care about dead kids.
Only politics-- getting rid of a guy who dared contradict Trump.
Based on the non action of the local authorities you're citing , it seems you're giving the Feds a pass. So, the issue needs to be looked at on the local level before the Fed level is what you're saying or in just this one instance?
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:05 PM
You don't care about the 20 calls to the sheriff.
You don't care about dead kids.
Only politics-- getting rid of a guy who dared contradict Trump.
I've never brought up Trump. But isn't it interesting that someone you perceive to be a crusader against Trump is allowed to have young blood on his hands with impunity if you get your way. Quite sad. You really are a low life.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:05 PM
Based on the non action of the local authorities you're citing , it seems you're giving the Feds a pass. So, the issue needs to be looked at on the local level before the Fed level is what you're saying or in just this one instance?
I'm saying you don't give a shit about the dead kids at all.
Chucho
02-17-2018, 09:09 PM
I'm saying you don't give a shit about the dead kids at all.
You're saying you have no answer to my question and that you don't give a shit about these dead kids at all.
Chucho
02-17-2018, 09:11 PM
Pav is saying it's not the Feds' fault because of the 20 calls. Brings up Trump. LOL.
He doesn't give a shit about these dead kids.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:12 PM
I'm saying you don't give a shit about the dead kids at all.
That was his first post. And it was a reasonable question that you did not answer. Instead, you just made up an unsubstantiated accusation. Unless you can somehow explain how this means one does not care about dead kids at all:
Based on the non action of the local authorities you're citing , it seems you're giving the Feds a pass. So, the issue needs to be looked at on the local level before the Fed level is what you're saying or in just this one instance?
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:15 PM
You're saying you have no answer to my question and that you don't give a shit about these dead kids at all.
Heh. Didn't read the screen name.
I'm saying there are 20 calls and one call.
Go figure.
Chucho
02-17-2018, 09:15 PM
That was his first post. And it was a reasonable question that you did not answer. Instead, you just made up an unsubstantiated accusation. Unless you can somehow explain how this means one does not care about dead kids at all:
When your first MO is to try and work your angle and schtick the expense of dead kids, you don't give a shit about those dead kids.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:17 PM
When your first MO is to try and work your angle and schtick the expense of dead kids, you don't give a shit about those dead kids. Pav doesn't give a shit about those dead kids but is dedicated to keeping up his routine.
I brought up other possible calls.
I'm not calling for anyone's firing at this point.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:18 PM
Heh. Didn't read the screen name.
I'm saying there are 20 calls and one call.
Go figure.
If this is your passion, you should create an OP on it. Using it as an excuse for FBI incompetence is not acceptable though.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:18 PM
If this is your passion, you should create an OP on it. Using it as an excuse for FBI incompetence is not acceptable though.
Is this your passion?
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:21 PM
I'm not calling for anyone's firing at this point.
Because your callous politics are more important than the killing of innocents. You are quite the lowlife.
The FBI was warned last month that Nikolas Cruz was an armed psycho who might shoot up a school — but it didn’t bother investigating, the agency admitted Friday.
“A person close to” Cruz called the agency’s tipline on Jan. 5 and reported the 19-year-old had a “desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts” and there was “potential of him conducting a school shooting,” the FBI said in a statement.
But the agency said it failed to pass on any of that information to its Miami field office, even thought its own protocols say he “should have been assessed as a potential threat to life.”
A little over a month later, on Wednesday, Cruz allegedly gunned down 17 people at his former high school (https://nypost.com/tag/florida-high-school-massacre/).
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:23 PM
Is this your passion?
It's not your passion (obviously). It's just a convenient aspersion that I am not indulging.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:24 PM
Because your callous politics are more important than the killing of innocents. You are quite the lowlife.
What politics are you talking about?
I'm fine with waiting to see the results of the investigation. You just keep doing what you're told.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:25 PM
It's not your passion (obviously). It's just a convenient aspersion that I am not indulging.
Is this your passion?
pgardn
02-17-2018, 09:25 PM
Based on the non action of the local authorities you're citing , it seems you're giving the Feds a pass. So, the issue needs to be looked at on the local level before the Fed level is what you're saying or in just this one instance?
If I read the post poll directly, this is an interestingly timed yes or no question.
Nothing about further looking into.
We gotta play our cards now.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:26 PM
What politics are you talking about?
You've already exposed yourself. It's senseless to pretend otherwise.
I'm fine with waiting to see the results of the investigation. You just keep doing what you're told.
The result is already in. They were asleep at the wheel.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:28 PM
You've already exposed yourself. It's senseless to pretend otherwise.
The result is already in. They were asleep at the wheel.
OK so Trump should resign then.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:29 PM
OK so Trump should resign then.
No. Trump should get rid of all of these pariahs (if it's even possible). I get that you stick your neck out for your fellow lowlifes though.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:31 PM
No. Trump should get rid of all of these pariahs (if it's even possible). I get that you stick your neck out for your fellow lowlifes though.
Trump hired Wray.
It's all Trump's fault.
Trump must resign immediately.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:33 PM
Trump hired Wray.
It's all Trump's fault.
Trump must resign immediately.
You're being absurd, tbh.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:34 PM
You're being absurd, tbh.
It's all Trump's responsibility.
Trump must resign immediately.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:35 PM
If I read the post poll directly, this is an interestingly timed yes or no question.
Nothing about further looking into.
We gotta play our cards now.
At least for us, there is a now. Those dead kids get no now.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:36 PM
At least for us, there is a now. Those dead kids get no now.
OK. Trump must resign now.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:37 PM
OK. Trump must resign now.
Should Wray resign too in that scenario?
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:39 PM
Should Wray resign too in that scenario?As long as Trump resigns immediately.
So should the local LEO chief also resign? Why would the FBI be involved in this guy's life anyhow? Why not the local authority? FBI generally gets involved when crimes happen where jurisdiction crosses state lines. Florida has investigative divisions. Taxpayers should not be paying for FBI agents to pursue every "he's weird" claim in the US. Sure one or two will pan out one day, and people who knew him will say they aren't surprised. Why then didn't any local authorities have a handle on it?
There's no reason for the head of the entire FBI to resign because of a school shooting. Pretty sure no one resigned when the two towers came down, even though the perps were being watched by the CIA.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:42 PM
As long as Trump resigns immediately.
So, your morals on the matter are hundred percent political. Thanks for confirming that, lowlife. The dead kids are just pawns to you. Sad.
Blake
02-17-2018, 09:42 PM
So should the local LEO chief also resign? Why would the FBI be involved in this guy's life anyhow? Why not the local authority? FBI generally gets involved when crimes happen where jurisdiction crosses state lines. Florida has investigative divisions. Taxpayers should not be paying for FBI agents to pursue every "he's weird" claim in the US. Sure one or two will pan out one day, and people who knew him will say they aren't surprised. Why then didn't any local authorities have a handle on it?
There's no reason for the head of the entire FBI to resign because of a school shooting. Pretty sure no one resigned when the two towers came down, even though the perps were being watched by the CIA.
Pretty much
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:44 PM
So, your morals on the matter are hundred percent political. Thanks for confirming that, lowlife. The dead kids are just pawns to you. Sad.Trump is responsible for those dead kids according to you.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:44 PM
So should the local LEO chief also resign? Why would the FBI be involved in this guy's life anyhow? Why not the local authority? FBI generally gets involved when crimes happen where jurisdiction crosses state lines. Florida has investigative divisions. Taxpayers should not be paying for FBI agents to pursue every "he's weird" claim in the US. Sure one or two will pan out one day, and people who knew him will say they aren't surprised. Why then didn't any local authorities have a handle on it?
There's no reason for the head of the entire FBI to resign because of a school shooting. Pretty sure no one resigned when the two towers came down, even though the perps were being watched by the CIA.
Then the FBI did not pass on their information to anyone and people were killed.
Spurtacular
02-17-2018, 09:46 PM
Trump is responsible for those dead kids according to you.
That's your case, counselor. And as such you've said that the FBI director is also responsible. Yet, you say he should not be fired unless your political demands are met. That's quite despicable even for a lowlife, honestly.
Then the FBI did not pass on their information to anyone and people were killed.
Probably happens thousands of times a week. Same with every big city police department that doesn't arrest someone with a TRO who goes and kills the person who filed it, or a child welfare division that doesn't stop a child from being abused, molested or murdered (or all of the above). Should the mayor resign in every city?
If I was that afraid of someone, I wouldn't stay around them. I'd bet people who are bitching about it spend more time blogging than trying to help people they know who could use mental counseling.
Pavlov
02-17-2018, 09:48 PM
That's your case, counselor. And as such you've said that the FBI director is also responsible. Yet, you say he should not be fired unless your political demands are met. That's quite despicable even for a lowlife, honestly.
If you're going to fire the one responsible, it has to be Trump.
You can't change that.
Blake
02-17-2018, 09:49 PM
Then the FBI did not pass on their information to anyone and people were killed.
"To anyone"
Who exactly? And what were the "anyone" supposed to do with the information
pgardn
02-17-2018, 09:55 PM
At least for us, there is a now. Those dead kids get no now.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2i1dymu.jpg
djohn2oo8
02-18-2018, 08:41 AM
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Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 12:20 PM
Probably happens thousands of times a week. Same with every big city police department that doesn't arrest someone with a TRO who goes and kills the person who filed it, or a child welfare division that doesn't stop a child from being abused, molested or murdered (or all of the above). Should the mayor resign in every city?
If I was that afraid of someone, I wouldn't stay around them. I'd bet people who are bitching about it spend more time blogging than trying to help people they know who could use mental counseling.
Yea, well this tip that didn't get passed on led to 17 dead. I'm afraid run-of-the-mill incompetence ain't gonna be good enough for a lot of people.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 12:21 PM
If you're going to fire the one responsible, it has to be Trump.
You can't change that.
Your solution is as impractical as your logic. Typical.
Yea, well this tip that didn't get passed on led to 17 dead. I'm afraid run-of-the-mill incompetence ain't gonna be good enough for a lot of people.
A lot of people have the option to join the FBI and make the difference, or become a mental health professional. Being a professional blogger never really helped anyone.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 12:23 PM
Your solution is as impractical as your logic. Typical.Not at all. Trump's resignation solves all your issues. You want the people responsible gone. Trump is responsible for those deaths according to you.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 12:25 PM
Not at all. Trump's resignation solves all your issues. You want the people responsible gone. Trump is responsible for those deaths according to you.
I never made that point, lowlife.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 12:25 PM
I never made that point, lowlife.You did. You just didn't know it.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 12:26 PM
A lot of people have the option to join the FBI and make the difference, or become a mental health professional. Being a professional blogger never really helped anyone.
My argument doesn't boil down to blogger vs. FBI agent career path, tbh. If people want incompetence though, they can have it.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 12:26 PM
You did. You just didn't know it.
I'm telling you outright that it's not my position, lowlife.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 12:27 PM
I'm telling you outright that it's not my position, lowlife.How is Trump not responsible for those deaths but Wray is?
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 02:25 PM
How is Trump not responsible for those deaths but Wray is?
"Responsible" was not the assertion. Keep trying.
My argument doesn't boil down to blogger vs. FBI agent career path, tbh. If people want incompetence though, they can have it.
You've lost this point back in page 1 when I pointed out your faulty logic that the FBI director should resign over one lead that went unnoticed of hundreds if not thousands.
Fact is, not every lead the FBI gets gets to the very top.
I'm telling you outright that it's not my position, lowlife.
The point being Trump appointed him so he should have some responsibility. If Wray resigns so must Trump. It's a sound logic.
Leadership comes from the top.
Obviously Trump shouldn't resign over this either but that's not the point.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 02:48 PM
You've lost this point back in page 1 when I pointed out your faulty logic that the FBI director should resign over one lead that went unnoticed of hundreds if not thousands.
Fact is, not every lead the FBI gets gets to the very top.
Sorry, tranny. But that's not the death blow you think it is. This one lead was quite definitive and serious. There is no excuse for it not to have been investigated. I'm sure in a tranny's world, you're used to sloppiness for what it's worth.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 02:50 PM
The point being Trump appointed him so he should have some responsibility. If Wray resigns so must Trump. It's a sound logic.
Leadership comes from the top.
Obviously Trump shouldn't resign over this either but that's not the point.
Show me the umpteen times you called for Obama's resignation when an appointee failed....
:lol "sound logic"
:lol Today's tranny
:lol Arguing for Trump resigning to come to your buddy's aid, but then saying "obviously Trump shouldn't resign"
:lol Today's tranny
Yeah, you're lashing out.
Dont make threads and expect to not have counter points. Thats why everyone calls you derp. More often than not, you end up looking like a retard.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:15 PM
Yeah, you're lashing out.
Dont make threads and expect to not have counter points. Thats why everyone calls you derp. More often than not, you end up looking like a retard.
:lol Your counter point is incompetence that leads to seventeen deaths should be tolerated because incompetence happens a lot.
:lol "derp"
:lol Today's tranny
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 03:15 PM
"Responsible" was not the assertion. Keep trying.So you say Wray isn't responsible for the deaths.
lol OK.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:17 PM
So you say Wray isn't responsible for the deaths.
lol OK.
The argument was about "resignation" not "responsible". I get that you like to move the goalposts.
:lol Your counter point is incompetence that leads to seventeen deaths should be tolerated because incompetence happens a lot.
:lol "derp"
:lol Today's tranny
So you want Trump to also resign along with Wray? Good for you, pedo.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 03:19 PM
The argument was about "resignation" not "responsible". I get that you like to move the goalposts.So you say Wray isn't responsible for the deaths.
lol OK.
Destroys your resignation argument tbh.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:20 PM
So you say Wray isn't responsible for the deaths.
lol OK.
Destroys your resignation argument tbh.
Go ahead and show me that quote.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 03:21 PM
Go ahead and show me that quote.So you say Wray is responsible for those deaths?
lol make up your mind.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:22 PM
So you say Wray is responsible for those deaths?
lol make up your mind.
Show me the quote or admit you're trying to put words in my mouth (per par).
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 03:24 PM
Show me the quote or admit you're trying to put words in my mouth (per par).Are you saying Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland?
Yes or no.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:27 PM
https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/white-flag-of-surrender-picture-id522302236?k=6&m=522302236&s=612x612&w=0&h=_nRgky4izD6lmZXK79YY0Um5VU0SNiSkIZa0oC42_0w=
:lmao
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 03:31 PM
:lmaoIf your not saying he's responsible for the deaths in Parkalnd, there really is no reason for him to resign.
lol
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:35 PM
If your not saying he's responsible for the deaths in Parkalnd, there really is no reason for him to resign.
lol
Show me the quote of me saying Wray is not responsible for the deaths or admit you're telling another false narrative; or just wave your white flag again.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 03:49 PM
Show me the quote of me saying Wray is not responsible for the deaths or admit you're telling another false narrative; or just wave your white flag again.I asked you point blank whether you are saying Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
You did not answer.
That means you are not saying he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
If you want to say he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland, step up and say Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
My argument doesn't boil down to blogger vs. FBI agent career path, tbh. If people want incompetence though, they can have it.
In order to show incompetence, you'd have to show that the local field office didn't meet a standard. What's the standard? What was the FBI supposed to do preemptively?
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:52 PM
In order to show incompetence, you'd have to show that the local field office didn't meet a standard. What's the standard? What was the FBI supposed to do preemptively?
That debate would only be a matter if the local office had even received the tip.
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 03:53 PM
I asked you point blank whether you are saying Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
You did not answer.
That means you are not saying he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
If you want to say he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland, step up and say Wray is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
So, you made up your own reality / false narrative and proceeded with your process as if it was truth.
Lawyered.
That debate would only be a matter if the local office had even received the tip.
Who received the tip?
Is a "tip" probable cause?
Reports on individuals not currently wanted or under investigation aren't tips, they are just reports.
Should someone be under investigation because they own firearms and have talked about killing people?
If so, should the FBI be the ones investigating?
This crosses into a grey/dangerous area where personal freedom and due process exist. Even now, you can get a TRO on someone and they'll have to surrender their firearms. The conservatives would never want that and they wouldn't finger point at the FBI for not doing anything if the POTUS wasn't under FBI investigation.
This seems crystal clear.
Priorities are getting mixed here. There's no clear message in these discussions. You're either pro BoR or you aren't. If you are, what law did the shooter break before going on his killing spree? If you want the FBI to investigate everyone who's reported to them, get ready for an Orwellian state. If you don't want that, don't start down that path for the sake of political talking points.
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 04:06 PM
So, you made up your own reality / false narrative and proceeded with your process as if it was truth.
Lawyered.You are not saying he is responsible for the deaths in Parkland.
Blake
02-18-2018, 04:39 PM
He oversaw an incompetent system that led to 17 dead person as I said. That's okay by you though.
:cry "but where did I say he's responsible"
Pavlov
02-18-2018, 04:46 PM
:cry "but where did I say he's responsible":lol
If OP doesn't even say Wray is responsible, there is no reason for Wray to resign.
If the FBI had tried to take his guns I bet the NRA and gun rights crowd would have been furious. He had no criminal record and all the FBI probably could have done is interview him and little more. We need better gun laws and a better system of enforcing those laws, not for the FBI to have to keep tabs on every psychopath kid in America.
Blake
02-18-2018, 04:47 PM
This thread has only gotten this far because of a retarded op
Splits
02-18-2018, 05:03 PM
Jimmer McDerpDerp making a strong case to take back stupidest ST poster from Chris
Spurtacular
02-18-2018, 10:03 PM
:lol
If OP doesn't even say Wray is responsible, there is no reason for Wray to resign.
Damn, you suck at deciphering context.
What specifically did Wray do or not do in this case?
Explain.
He oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors. I guess that's not enough for you.
pgardn
02-18-2018, 11:00 PM
Damn, you suck at deciphering context.
Well of course Wray has had plenty of time. I mean Donald keeps only the best, so they get time and get right down to business... and oh shit. Our president takes pleasure in hiring and firing the best. So of course only the best and brightest want these jobs... and oh sit... Hard time findin a suitable candidate? He's never tried a case and you put him up for judge... and oh shit...
I think there is a pattern here. Rence Priebus, paging Rence Priebus. Steve Babbon? Corey Lweondfuski... Ahh, Donald's trophy wife still loves him.... and oh shit... What, a 4th or 5th marriage. Will Trump actually die first?
Jeff Sessions? Are you there? Yes. You are what? Too short? well oh shit...
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 12:00 AM
Damn, you suck at deciphering context.Why don't you just say you think Wray is responsible for the deaths?
What are you afraid of?
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 12:27 AM
Why don't you just say you think Wray is responsible for the deaths?
What are you afraid of?
Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 12:29 AM
Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.Are you saying he's responsible for the deaths at Parkland?
Yes or no.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 12:33 AM
What are you afraid of?
Why aren't you making a thread on the sheriff's role in this event?
What are you afraid of?
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 12:39 AM
Are you saying he's responsible for the deaths at Parkland?
Yes or no.
Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 12:54 AM
Why aren't you making a thread on the sheriff's role in this event?
What are you afraid of?I've already brought it up here and it has been brought up in the my original thread.
Wray oversaw a dysfunctional system that led to the death of a dozen or so minors.
So you're not saying he's responsible for the deaths at Parkland.
OK.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 02:36 AM
I've already brought it up here and it has been brought up in the my original thread.
So, it's nothing you care too much about beyond being a prop.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 04:30 AM
So, it's nothing you care too much about beyond being a prop.It's been discussed already in two threads by multiple posters. I don't see the reason for starting a redundant thread.
You're really quite stupid.
And butthurt.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 11:50 AM
It's been discussed already in two threads by multiple posters. I don't see the reason for starting a redundant thread.
You're really quite stupid.
And butthurt.
It was discussed ever so much; yet you still needed to use it as a deflection.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 01:12 PM
It was discussed ever so much; yet you still needed to use it as a deflection.The existence of the twenty (20) calls is merely an additional fact that should be considered in any discussion of responsibility or what could have been done, as is the FDCF investigation. Facts like these routinely confuse and infuriate you for some reason; maybe you need to explore the reasons why for your own sake. After all, twenty (20) is a much larger number than one (1).
You agree with that fact, don't you?
20 > 1?
Yes or no.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 01:18 PM
The existence of the twenty (20) calls is merely an additional fact that should be considered in any discussion of responsibility or what could have been done, as is the FDCF investigation. Facts like these routinely confuse and infuriate you for some reason; maybe you need to explore the reasons why for your own sake. After all, twenty (20) is a much larger number than one (1).
You agree with that fact, don't you?
20 > 1?
Yes or no.
I think logic fails you as usual. The twenty calls has nothing to do with the FBI not doing their job.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 01:21 PM
I think logic fails you as usual. The twenty calls has nothing to do with the FBI not doing their job.We're just talking the most basic facts here.
Is 20 > 1?
Yes or no.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 01:27 PM
We're just talking the most basic facts here.
Is 20 > 1?
Yes or no.
You can call it "basic facts" all day long. It has nothing to do with the topic of the FBI not doing their job. I could've sworn I just explained this. Silly me.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 01:33 PM
You can call it "basic facts" all day long. It has nothing to do with the topic of the FBI not doing their job. I could've sworn I just explained this. Silly me.The topic is responsibility and what could or should have been done. You want to artificially limit that discussion to one man and tried to put on your big boy forum cop hat to do so.
I just want to know if we can agree on one simple fact. I believe whether you can is quite telling:
Is 20 > 1?
Yes or no.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 01:35 PM
The topic is responsibility and what could or should have been done. You want to artificially limit that discussion to one man and tried to put on your big boy forum cop hat to do so.
I just want to know if we can agree on one simple fact. I believe whether you can is quite telling:
Is 20 > 1?
Yes or no.
:lol You just make up your own shit all day long.
It takes a very special kind of dipshit to get shit on on 3 separate ongoing active threads just in one section alone.
:lmao Derptacular
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Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 01:40 PM
It takes a very special kind of dipshit to get shit on on 3 separate ongoing active threads just in one section alone.
Yea, about as special a person as it takes to find cockroaches in a rundown Brooklyn apartment.
:lol Today's tranny
RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 01:41 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/17/fbi-director-under-pressure-to-resign-after-florida-school-shooting.html
I think it's interesting that the governor said that people must feel confident in the follow-through. And I don't believe that such incompetence should be tolerated. But I'd like to hear the counter arguments. Which one of you bitches are gonna say it's but a local field office problem?
Also, I saw another high ranking Florida official call for his resignation. I think it may have been the attorney general or deputy attorney general; but I cannot recall for sure.
Note: And that's how that's done RandomGuy You put other people's work in the quote box. You don't make it look like it's your own output, bitch.
Chicago manual of style also allows for indents, italics and plain old ".
Thanks for the shout out. Your post made me happy thinking about your butthurt.
RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 01:42 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/17/fbi-director-under-pressure-to-resign-after-florida-school-shooting.html
I think it's interesting that the governor said that people must feel confident in the follow-through. And I don't believe that such incompetence should be tolerated. But I'd like to hear the counter arguments. Which one of you bitches are gonna say it's but a local field office problem?
Also, I saw another high ranking Florida official call for his resignation. I think it may have been the attorney general or deputy attorney general; but I cannot recall for sure.
Note: And that's how that's done RandomGuy You put other people's work in the quote box. You don't make it look like it's your own output, bitch.
“If the president wants to come up to me and tell me to my face that it was a terrible tragedy, and how it should never have happened, and maintain telling us how nothing is going to be done about it, I’m going to happily ask him how much money he received from the National Rifle Association. But hey, you wanna know something? It doesn’t matter because I ALREADY KNOW! Thirty million dollars! And divided by the number of gunshot victims in the United States in the one and one half months in 2018 alone, that comes out to … $5,800. Is that how much these people are worth to you, Trump? If you don’t do anything to prevent this from … continuing to occur, that number of gunshot victims will go up, and the number that they are worth with go down. And we will be worthless to you! To any politician who is taking donations from the NRA, SHAME ON YOU.”
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630065/emma-gonzalez-will-be-the-boss-of-you#LjKuEyIxzi3kqzqF.99
Yea, about as special a person as it takes to find cockroaches in a rundown Brooklyn apartment.
:lol Today's tranny
Straight to ad hominem attacks...and then being wrong about the assumption. :lmao
RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 01:43 PM
“In February of 2017, one year ago, President Trump repealed an Obama-era regulation that would have made it easier to block the sale of firearms to certain people with mental illnesses. […] I don’t need to be a psychologist to know that repealing that regulation was a really DUMB idea. Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa was the sole sponsor on this bill that stops the FBI from performing background checks on people adjudicated to be mentally ill, and now he’s stating for the record, ‘Well, it’s a shame that the FBI isn’t doing background checks on these mentally ill people!’ WELL DUH! You took that opportunity away LAST YEAR!”
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630065/emma-gonzalez-will-be-the-boss-of-you#LjKuEyIxzi3kqzqF.99
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 01:44 PM
Chicago manual of style also allows for indents, italics and plain old ".
Thanks for the shout out. Your post made me happy thinking about your butthurt.
:lmao That you think your OP's are of a professional variety.
RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 01:45 PM
I think the best way to deal with this is to ignore him. I think we can all agree that the things that President Trump tweets is nothing that will have a lasting impact — unless it’s a negative lasting impact — on the people around us.
At this point especially, the things that he mentions when he brings up talk of the FBI, he’s trying to blame somebody. And we can’t let him do that. So, the best thing for us to do is to ignore him and to continue fighting our fight, the fight that he refuses to acknowledge. The fact that he refused to even tweet the word “gun” in any of his tweets. And yet, he insists on tweeting, and he insists on blaming the Democrats for something that he did wrong …
It’s disgraceful.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/630065/emma-gonzalez-will-be-the-boss-of-you#LjKuEyIxzi3kqzqF.99
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 01:45 PM
Straight to ad hominem attacks...and then being wrong about the assumption. :lmao
Your chime-in was random ad hominem.
SMDH
:lol Today's tranny
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 01:48 PM
:lmao That you think your OP's are of a professional variety.I doubt anyone thinks anyone's OPs here are of a professional variety.
Do you think your OPs are of a professional variety?
After making "OP's" possessive in your accusation?
Yes or no.
Your chime-in was random ad hominem.
SMDH
:lol Today's tranny
Just making a point.
Am I wrong?
RandomGuy
02-19-2018, 02:01 PM
Note: And that's how that's done RandomGuy You put other people's work in the quote box. You don't make it look like it's your own output, bitch.
https://image.freepik.com/free-vector/doctor-clinic-illustration_1270-69.jpg
Here is a prescription of Getdafukoverit (tm) for your Butthurtitis.
I'm also going to recommend you stay off the internet and cut down on your breathing.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 03:37 PM
^^^
:lol Lashing out cos you haven't come to terms with your terrible formatting.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 03:38 PM
Just making a point.
Am I wrong?
That's what I just argued (that you're wrong).
:lol Today's tranny
That's what I just argued (that you're wrong).
:lol Today's tranny
There are currently at least 3 active threads here in the political forum that you're getting totally wrecked. :lol It's not a conspiracy.
You're just that stupid.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 04:00 PM
^^^
:lol Lashing out cos you haven't come to terms with your terrible formatting.Everyone understood it.
Even you.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 07:34 PM
There are currently at least 3 active threads here in the political forum that you're getting totally wrecked. :lol It's not a conspiracy.
You're just that stupid.
:lol You were to busy poppin' off buzz terms to get the analogy; and so you go back to your trash.
:lol Today's tranny.
:lol "just that stupid."
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 07:36 PM
Everyone understood it.
Even you.
That's your bar? That it'll make do? :lmao
Blake
02-19-2018, 07:43 PM
Damn, you suck at deciphering context.
Lol deciphering spurt speak
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 07:45 PM
Decipher muh cuck speak
:lol
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 08:00 PM
That's your bar? That it'll make do? :lmaoIt's a message board.
What is your standard that you want enforced on the SpursTalk Political Forum?
Post your proposed rules.
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 08:03 PM
It's a message board.
What is your standard that you want enforced on the SpursTalk Political Forum?
Post your proposed rules.
He's free to post his garble.
Pavlov
02-19-2018, 08:09 PM
He's free to post his garble.Great.
Why are you still shitting yourself about it?
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 08:14 PM
Great.
Why are you still shitting yourself about it?
You're the one that's triggered, bro.
Blake
02-19-2018, 08:27 PM
341. Says "You're triggered"
Spurtacular
02-19-2018, 08:36 PM
341. Says "You're triggered"
:lmao cuck imitating chump. How cute!
More examples of "getting shit on" and "shitting himself" per par :lol
Derptacular in a nutshell:
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Chris
02-21-2018, 12:17 AM
Coulter
966152198890577920
Quadzilla99
02-21-2018, 02:13 AM
Coulter
966152198890577920
Did you used to eat paint chips as a kid?
Pavlov
02-21-2018, 04:35 AM
Coulter
966152198890577920That's cute.
Coulter acting like she has friends.
Spurtacular
02-21-2018, 10:05 AM
That's cute.
Coulter acting like she has friends.
Nobody that rivals the chumpettes, surely.
:lol Rick Scott Demanding the FBI director to resign but he won't even attend one of these kid's funeral because "I have legislative work to do." :cry
:lol Pedotacular
:lol But but but RESIGN NAO!
:lol Potatoe
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