New NBA fad: the double stepback jumper

[TDfan2007]

How is this new double step back not a travel? It's so incredibly obvious that I feel like I'm losing my mind.

Harden, CP3, and LeBron are difficult enough to defend without being allowed to basically moonwalk away from their defenders... -_-

[Killakobe81]

How is this new double step back not a travel? It's so incredibly obvious that I feel like I'm losing my mind.

Harden, CP3, and LeBron are difficult enough to defend without being allowed to basically moonwalk away from their defenders... -_-

Great move ...if you can get away with it ... but you are correct, absolutely a travel...
but because Harden is a star he gets BOD star calls.
Same as when Blake posterized Pau Gasol ...(twice) one was borderline 50/50 but the other was a blatant offensive foul. But ESPN/NBA loved the highlight ...
but still the cross was vicious but the hop followed by a shuffle is a travel but Wes Johnson was done/falling once Harden stopped before the travel ...

[lefty]

Because today's NBA players are shit, even though we keep hearing they have better fundamentals

[TDfan2007]

Great move ...if you can get away with it ... but you are correct, absolutely a travel...
but because Harden is a star he gets BOD star calls.
Same as when Blake posterized Pau Gasol ...(twice) one was borderline 50/50 but the other was a blatant offensive foul. But ESPN/NBA loved the highlight ...
but still the cross was vicious but the hop followed by a shuffle is a travel but Wes Johnson was done/falling once Harden stopped before the travel ...

That's the best part. Harden destroyed him, then still traveled unnecessarily :lol it's like second nature to him now.

[UZER]

It's a blatant travel by definition.

This isn't the gather step, the euro step, or the on the break long stride dunk, all which can be debated. This is clear as day multiple feet shuffles.

And this isn't a one off play that a refs just misses in the course of action. This is a patented move that Harden invented that is done the same way every time over and over game after game. You can't tell me a ref hasn't seen this move on tape and not realized it's a travel.

Crazy.

[lebomb]

I see players all the time shuffle their feet when they pivot. Travel big time. I pointed that out in the Wizards/Bucks game the other night. Giannis had the ball, was pivoting around to find an open player and clearly shuffled both feet as he was pivoting around. I LoL'd.

[UZER]

I see players all the time shuffle their feet when they pivot. Travel big time. I pointed that out in the Wizards/Bucks game the other night. Giannis had the ball, was pivoting around to find an open player and clearly shuffled both feet as he was pivoting around. I LoL'd.

I agree, and not excusing the non calls. I'm just saying Harden has a specific repeated move HE does every game that the refs blatantly ingore. That's inexcusable.

[Clipper Nation]

I especially love the staredown, as if getting away with a blatant travel and a foul on one of the league's shittiest players in a February regular-season game is some major accomplishment. This is a perfect example of why Frauden has never won anything.

[HarlemHeat37]

Because today's NBA players are shit, even though we keep hearing they have better fundamentals

I've literally never heard anybody say that:lol

Fundamentals is a code word for white and unathletic..

[Jules_Winnfield]

https://youtu.be/pCBziTv_y8A?t=5s

https://youtu.be/mW2arlWbatM?t=3m4s

Clutch. :lol
https://www.google.si/search?q=another+one+gif&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifzZXL48vZAhUFblAKHW0FCcQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=662#imgrc=Y1uBHVUyYU7XOM:https://www.google.si/search?q=another+one+gif&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifzZXL48vZAhUFblAKHW0FCcQQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=662#imgrc=Y1uBHVUyYU7XOM:

[Killakobe81]

I've literally never heard anybody say that:lol

Fundamentals is a code word for white and unathletic..

Duncan was lauded for his ...he is neither of those.
Same Jordan and Kobe to a lessor extent by players ...obviously media and casuals were more focused on the flashy shit ...

I used to tutor/coach a few AAU/college females a few years back that studied Kobe's footwork without any prodding by me. They didnt like the Lakrers or his persona but admired his feet.

Klay Devin and Beal are lauded for their fundamental form on their jumpers ...well Klay is half ...but point being in modern nba white guys dont have a monopoly on fundamentals.

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan was lauded for his ...he is neither of those.
Same Jordan and Kobe to a lessor extent by players ...obviously media and casuals were more focused on the flashy shit ...

I used to tutor/coach a few AAU/college females a few years back that studied Kobe's footwork without any prodding by me. They didnt like the Lakrers or his persona but admired his feet.

Klay Devin and Beal are lauded for their fundamental form on their jumpers ...well Klay is half ...but point being in modern nba white guys dont have a monopoly on fundamentals.

Duncan's nickname was a compliment, but also an insult based on the boring nature of his game, tbh..he wasn't white, but he was never beloved by Black people..other than myself, I think I've met like 2 other Black men who enjoyed Duncan's game:lol

And I'm not saying only white people have fundamentals, obviously..however, that's usually what old heads and ex-NBA fans are referring to when they criticize the fundamentals of today's players..they miss the white NBA, they miss Hoosiers..

[baseline bum]

I see players all the time shuffle their feet when they pivot. Travel big time. I pointed that out in the Wizards/Bucks game the other night. Giannis had the ball, was pivoting around to find an open player and clearly shuffled both feet as he was pivoting around. I LoL'd.

Kawhi does that shit all the time too, at least when he's healthy enough to wipe his own ass.

[Killakobe81]

Duncan's nickname was a compliment, but also an insult based on the boring nature of his game, tbh..he wasn't white, but he was never beloved by Black people..other than myself, I think I've met like 2 other Black men who enjoyed Duncan's game:lol

I did though not a traditional black ...
I was calling for Shaq Duncan trade from Tim's rookie year ...even before Kobe and Shaq started beefing.
i wont lie he seemed a bit soft at Wake but half way through his rookie year i knew he would have a better career than Shaq

[Double-Up]

I've literally never heard anybody say that:lol

Fundamentals is a code word for white and unathletic..

...or Duncan.

[djohn2oo8]

...or Duncan.

:wow.

[djohn2oo8]

I especially love the staredown, as if getting away with a blatant travel and a foul on one of the league's shittiest players in a February regular-season game is some major accomplishment. This is a perfect example of why Frauden has never won anything.

Pretty sure you were blowing your load after that last game Rivers went off. Salty bitch.

":cry But, but he stared at him :cry"

[HarlemHeat37]

...or Duncan.

Duncan's peak was the era when the "we miss fundamentals" cries were at their loudest, tbh:lol the Iverson/dress code era..

[djohn2oo8]

But now we have fools complaining about different types of travel, to separate from the fact 100% of the league travels and doesn't get called.

Lordy today's NBA fans :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Pretty sure you were blowing your load after that last game Rivers went off. Salty bitch.

":cry But, but he stared at him :cry"
Rivers was on the sidelines in crutches last game.

:lol Dumbjohn

[Killakobe81]

But now we have fools complaining about different types of travel, to separate from the fact 100% of the league travels and doesn't get called.

Lordy today's NBA fans :lol
And the push!!!
There was a light push, but Harden already had him off balance and stumbling with the cross and stop, before the travel.
and I noticed Skip and others saying he pushed... but ignore the most iconic push with MJ nudging Russell ...
no one cares about that push except Jazz fans.

[sook]

Your guys are insufferable..the NBA has come out and said it isn't a travel. Spur fan trashing other people for stuff per usual :lol

[Down Under]

There's nothing illegal about it - just the same as anyone is allowed the pick their dribble up mid step, land, then take 2 more. It's stupid but its been happening for 15 years.

[sook]

There's nothing illegal about it - just the same as anyone is allowed the pick their dribble up mid step, land, then take 2 more. It's stupid but its been happening for 15 years.

An objective spurfan...what are you still doing here bro? :lol

[dfens]

There's nothing illegal about it - just the same as anyone is allowed the pick their dribble up mid step, land, then take 2 more. It's stupid but its been happening for 15 years.

:lmao:lmao today's nba, lebron doesn't even travel anymore compared to this generation SMH sons :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Rivers was on the sidelines in crutches last game.

:lol Dumbjohn

Rivers did go off in an earlier game. And you blew your load over a regular season game. You're right how could I forget that game, since Blake was traded almost right after :lol

[140]

:lol Dumbjohn

[Arcadian]

He shuffled to get behind the 3 line. He could've settled for 2 without the travel and have an actual legitimate highlight play.

[Bill_Brasky]

He pushed off too....it was a nice move, but nowhere near the ankle-breaking, life ending, GOAT moment that people are making it out to be.

[D-Wade]

He pushed off too....it was a nice move, but nowhere near the ankle-breaking, life ending, GOAT moment that people are making it out to be.

Agreed. Kellerman already called it the GOAT cross in a reg season game smh

[TDfan2007]

Your guys are insufferable..the NBA has come out and said it isn't a travel. Spur fan trashing other people for stuff per usual :lol

When did they come out and say that? I'm pretty sure you can't just hop-skip backwards, then shoot.

[TDfan2007]

But now we have fools complaining about different types of travel, to separate from the fact 100% of the league travels and doesn't get called.

Lordy today's NBA fans :lol

What's shocking is how obvious this one is. Travels while driving to the basket that don't get called are easier to excuse, because they happen so quickly. This stuff is blatant, and provides a HUGE advantage to the offensive player.

[Clipper Nation]

Your guys are insufferable..the NBA has come out and said it isn't a travel. Spur fan trashing other people for stuff per usual :lol
Gee... I wonder who the NBA is always going to side with: their fake manufactured "superstar" Frauden, or career journeyman Wesley Johnson?

[djohn2oo8]

What's shocking is how obvious this one is. Travels while driving to the basket that don't get called are easier to excuse, because they happen so quickly. This stuff is blatant, and provides a HUGE advantage to the offensive player.

Travels and palming hardly ever get called. I guess people don't remember the LeBron crab dribble.

[Clipper Nation]

Rivers did go off in an earlier game. And you blew your load over a regular season game. You're right how could I forget that game, since Blake was traded almost right after :lol
:lol You root for a team built around Frauden and CP0 and coached by D'Antoni. You don't get to accuse others of blowing their load over regular-season games.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol You root for a team built around Frauden and CP0 and coached by D'Antoni. You don't get to accuse others of blowing their load over regular-season games.

You're the one leaking over one move in a regular season game. Pathetic. But keep the issue alive guy.

[Clipper Nation]

You're the one leaking over one move in a regular season game. Pathetic. But keep the issue alive guy.
If by "leaking," you mean pointing out that he pushed off and then traveled, then sure. What time is the parade for Frauden's Regular Season Crossover Championship?

[djohn2oo8]

If by "leaking," you mean pointing out that he pushed off and then traveled, then sure. What time is the parade for Frauden's Regular Season Crossover Championship?

It's funny you are acting like I'm personally hyping it. Again, whether Harden or if it was anyone else who pulled that move, I'm not going to sit and complain about a pushoff, that happens in games, pickup games etc. Wesley didn't seem to complain about a pushoff :lol

[djohn2oo8]

BTW, even your boy LeBron praised it . So chill the fuck out.

[Clipper Nation]

It's funny you are acting like I'm personally hyping it. Again, whether Harden or if it was anyone else who pulled that move, I'm not going to sit and complain about a pushoff, that happens in games, pickup games etc. Wesley didn't seem to complain about a pushoff :lol
Wes isn't a crybaby. In contrast, the Rockets went crying to the league earlier this season and protested the game because we beat them.

[djohn2oo8]

Wes isn't a crybaby. In contrast, the Rockets went crying to the league earlier this season and protested the game because we beat them.

Unlike you. And didn't that game they let someone play with 6 fouls? But it matters not. Blake got his ass shipped out that's pretty satisfying.

[HarlemHeat37]

Can't lie, it was :wow

You know he would have dribbled it off his foot out of bounds if it was May, though:lol

[Chris]

I especially love the staredown, as if getting away with a blatant travel and a foul on one of the league's shittiest players in a February regular-season game is some major accomplishment. This is a perfect example of why Frauden has never won anything.

Iverson knew how to do it right imo

[140]

:lol today's NBA

[phxspurfan]

gx3S73InQ04 seems debatable. Much less debatable than LeBron's crab dribble. Or CP3's pivots and then dribbles. A pivot used to be able to take away your ability to dribble again.

[dfens]

basketball is dead sons, just accept it tbh. the level of help these supposed "stars" like flopden get is absolutely aberrant. The refs have become book lawyers instead of whistling the game, they whistle to cover their ass. They're not even whistling basketball plays, they just whistle the rulebook. Even in povertyball you get a yellow card for blatant diving smh. MJ got a lot of calls back in the days but SMH that nigga looked to get to the rim and score, not to contort himself to get in the best position to fall akwardly and get a ft. what harden is doing isn't even basketball tbh, you take flop protected slashing and you're left with a great 3p shooter + passer with no defense .. just another 18-22ppg star/allstar, nothing more,a derozan. But with the ungodly advantage of receiving a ft for every aberant non-basketball play he gets 30.

tbh we live in an era where the player signature moves are either violations, moves against the spirit of the game or 3pters : harden flop, dubeta ripthrough, giannis travel, cucky 3. what a pussified league smh.

if they'd let the defense play honestly (and i'm not talking hand checking) these niggas would have a massive offensive dropoff.


of course the league is pushing this style of play because it appeals to casuals, pussies and idiots. The midgetball gook market, the bitch nigga market and the corporate soft boy market are the holy trinity for NBA's pocket, exactly the type of faggots who rarely play, dress up to play and call every imaginable shit in their favor while being as dirty as they can. It's a game for sour losers. That's why the ticky tacky players are so loved by those groups. 20 years ago these losers couldn't even play in a game because none of the shit from today would've ever flied : ticky tacky fouls, blatant travel as a go-to move, fear of physical but fair contact.

Tbh y'all sons better pray lebrick plays more seasons because after him there is nobody in the position to take the mantle.

Also lol @djon, exactly the type of of fan marketed for by the nba. Cue in standard passive aggresive loser remark about basketball being a game of skill .. these faggots are hopeless smh :lmao

[phxspurfan]

btw Harden obviously pushed off on that play. Similar to the Jordan last shot play (on Bryon Russell).

[spurraider21]

i dont think it was a push off... he held his right arm out there but i dont think he extended it. look at wes's feet as he fell... it tripped, it wasn't the result of any push

[sook]

When did they come out and say that? I'm pretty sure you can't just hop-skip backwards, then shoot.

Same exact play under review a couple games ago the nba said it wasn’t a travel. Given how people here hate on harden for drawing fouls but worship the GOAT flopper and pioneer Ginobili I don’t expect anything . The push off folks are even worse...you’re allowed to protect the ball with your offhand, he didn’t use any extra motion apart from his natural body momentum. Have fun though.

[sook]

i dont think it was a push off... he held his right arm out there but i dont think he extended it. look at wes's feet as he fell... it tripped, it wasn't the result of any push

Someone gets it. But then again, the bar for spurfan in this thread is low

[lefty]

basketball is dead sons, just accept it tbh. the level of help these supposed "stars" like flopden get is absolutely aberrant. The refs have become book lawyers instead of whistling the game, they whistle to cover their ass. They're not even whistling basketball plays, they just whistle the rulebook. Even in povertyball you get a yellow card for blatant diving smh. MJ got a lot of calls back in the days but SMH that nigga looked to get to the rim and score, not to contort himself to get in the best position to fall akwardly and get a ft. what harden is doing isn't even basketball tbh, you take flop protected slashing and you're left with a great 3p shooter + passer with no defense .. just another 18-22ppg star/allstar, nothing more,a derozan. But with the ungodly advantage of receiving a ft for every aberant non-basketball play he gets 30.

tbh we live in an era where the player signature moves are either violations, moves against the spirit of the game or 3pters : harden flop, dubeta ripthrough, giannis travel, cucky 3. what a pussified league smh.

if they'd let the defense play honestly (and i'm not talking hand checking) these niggas would have a massive offensive dropoff.


of course the league is pushing this style of play because it appeals to casuals, pussies and idiots. The midgetball gook market, the bitch nigga market and the corporate soft boy market are the holy trinity for NBA's pocket, exactly the type of faggots who rarely play, dress up to play and call every imaginable shit in their favor while being as dirty as they can. It's a game for sour losers. That's why the ticky tacky players are so loved by those groups. 20 years ago these losers couldn't even play in a game because none of the shit from today would've ever flied : ticky tacky fouls, blatant travel as a go-to move, fear of physical but fair contact.

Tbh y'all sons better pray lebrick plays more seasons because after him there is nobody in the position to take the mantle.

Also lol @djon, exactly the type of of fan marketed for by the nba. Cue in standard passive aggresive loser remark about basketball being a game of skill .. these faggots are hopeless smh :lmao

:wow
:worthy:

[ambchang]

Someone gets it. But then again, the bar for spurfan in this thread is low

:lol agreeing with you = gets it. This is pretty pathetic.

For the record I don’t think it’s a push off, but clearly a travel. It’s just how homerly blind you and djohn are that’s hilarious.

Btw, I always thought the purpose of a crossover is to go past your man for a drive to the basket, not such that you can take three steps back for a three pointer.

[TDfan2007]

Same exact play under review a couple games ago the nba said it wasn’t a travel. Given how people here hate on harden for drawing fouls but worship the GOAT flopper and pioneer Ginobili I don’t expect anything . The push off folks are even worse...you’re allowed to protect the ball with your offhand, he didn’t use any extra motion apart from his natural body momentum. Have fun though.

Manu flopped and embellished contact, but he attacked the basket with the intent of finishing and the contact was there. Harden INVENTS contadt. He flails, hooks his arm into defenders, swings his arm into defenders, and throws himself into defenders off of screens. Now he's traveling BLATANTLY on his stepbacks. Manu flopped, but Harden has taken it to an entirely different level.

The sad part is that he's one of the best SGs of all time, talent-wise. He doesn't need these antics. Unfortunately, he's such a lazy player that he uses them for easy points.

Also, the whole "bbbbbut [insert player's name here] did it, and he's on your team, so you can't say anything! :cry " argument is illogical, stupid, and annoying.

[Chris]

Harden has taken it to an entirely different level.

The sad part is that he's one of the best SGs of all time, talent-wise. He doesn't need these antics. Unfortunately, he's such a lazy player that he uses them for easy points.

He learned a lot of those antics from Durant and Scott Brooks imo If a defender tries to put their arm out they will push against their arm and attempt a jump shot. This should never be rewarded, but has been consistently called for well over a decade. It drives basketball purists like JVG nuts.

[sasaint]

Duncan's nickname was a compliment, but also an insult based on the boring nature of his game, tbh..he wasn't white, but he was never beloved by Black people..other than myself, I think I've met like 2 other Black men who enjoyed Duncan's game:lol

And I'm not saying only white people have fundamentals, obviously..however, that's usually what old heads and ex-NBA fans are referring to when they criticize the fundamentals of today's players..they miss the white NBA, they miss Hoosiers..

No sir. We miss the sport and the enforcement of the basic rules that made it a great sport, which were sacrificed on the altar of entertainment by David Stern, which in turn opened the door to terrible fundamentals and blatant gaming of the rules - cheating, essentially. Old school players both black and white had to adhere to rules that were enforced, and they had sound fundamentals or else they couldn't stay on the court. Guys like Sam Jones, Russ and my man, Oscar were the most fundamentally sound players of their day.

[Bill_Brasky]

Agreed. Kellerman already called it the GOAT cross in a reg season game smh

Kemba Walker murdering that poor kid in the NCAA tournament when UConn won it all in 2010 was better. He's had a few in the NBA as well.

[sasaint]

But now we have fools complaining about different types of travel, to separate from the fact 100% of the league travels and doesn't get called.

Lordy today's NBA fans :lol

Driving the game off a cliff.

[Clipper Nation]

Kemba Walker murdering that poor kid in the NCAA tournament when UConn won it all in 2010 was better. He's had a few in the NBA as well.
Eric Gordon's crossover on Curry is still arguably the nastiest I've ever seen.

[DAF86]

gx3S73InQ04 seems debatable. Much less debatable than LeBron's crab dribble. Or CP3's pivots and then dribbles. A pivot used to be able to take away your ability to dribble again.

Gather and three steps. Not very debatable, tbh. But meh, there have been worse on the NBA.

[ElNono]

This is why when these players go play FIBA, they need two or three games to adjust. The first couple of games, they get called for travel like 20 times...

[Brazil]

This is why when these players go play FIBA, they need two or three years to adjust. The first couple of games, they get called for travel like 20 times...

fify

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol agreeing with you = gets it. This is pretty pathetic.

For the record I don’t think it’s a push off, but clearly a travel. It’s just how homerly blind you and djohn are that’s hilarious.

Btw, I always thought the purpose of a crossover is to go past your man for a drive to the basket, not such that you can take three steps back for a three pointer.

https://nevac.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/michael-jordan-lean-in-crossover.gif

Right, because the purpose of a crossover is to always go straight to the basket. Jesus.

[ambchang]

https://nevac.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/michael-jordan-lean-in-crossover.gif

Right, because the purpose of a crossover is to always go straight to the basket. Jesus.

Not always, but the purpose of the crossover is to go past your man, not to step back.

Apologies for not getting it by disagreeing with you though, the dictionary of basketball.

[djohn2oo8]

Not always, but the purpose of the crossover is to go past your man, not to step back.

Apologies for not getting it by disagreeing with you though, the dictionary of basketball.

The purpose of a crossover is to deceive the defender to get yourself the best possible shot either at the rim or on a jumper. You are spouting some hilarious bullshit.

[djohn2oo8]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tyronncross_original1.gif?w=650

According to Amb, this wasn't a valid move because he stepped back :lol

[ambchang]

The purpose of a crossover is to deceive the defender to get yourself the best possible shot either at the rim or on a jumper. You are spouting some hilarious bullshit.

And the best possible shot is three steps back for a three pointer.

[ambchang]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tyronncross_original1.gif?w=650

According to Amb, this wasn't a valid move because he stepped back :lol

Did I say it wasn’t valid? I said the purpose. Iverson got a great shot. So it’s valid. Harden ended up travelling that just didn’t get called. Not sure how it would be the best cross over ever when you can’t even launch a shot without taking three more steps.

[phxspurfan]

Gather and three steps. Not very debatable, tbh. But meh, there have been worse on the NBA.

the debatable part to me is that he had his other foot planted when he took the 3rd step (to get behind the 3pt line). Like it was a dance move or something

[The Gemini Method]

It was a nice move. Not the best crossover by any stretch of imagination, but if it comes from Harden/LeBron it's going to be magnified 10x the actual level of thrill.

[spurraider21]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tyronncross_original1.gif?w=650

According to Amb, this wasn't a valid move because he stepped back :lol
actually his left foot stays grounded the whole time, so that's a really poor comparison. iverson's issue was that he carried/palmed the ball a lot, but this play isn't an example of that

[djohn2oo8]

actually his left foot stays grounded the whole time, so that's a really poor comparison. iverson's issue was that he carried/palmed the ball a lot, but this play isn't an example of that
Still, crossovers are not only meant to just drive to the basket.

[Chucho]

:lol agreeing with you = gets it. This is pretty pathetic.



He really is that simple, that's how he sees politics as well. Not a very secure person at all.

[Jules_Winnfield]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf1EbTWFlWw/?taken-by=nba

Jamal needs to teach these two losers how to step back. :lol

[dfens]

Still, crossovers are not only meant to just drive to the basket.

amazing. next up passes are not just meant to create assists :wow:wow:wow:wow

[ambchang]

Still, crossovers are not only meant to just drive to the basket.

It’s about getting past your man and getting a good shot. Not take three steps back for a three.

[lefty]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tyronncross_original1.gif?w=650

According to Amb, this wasn't a valid move because he stepped back :lol

Lol Lebron's assistant coach

[140]

Lol Lebron's assistant coach
:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Lol Lebron's assistant coach
:lol Doc Rivers giving him a coaching career

[james evans]

Harden been traveling. It's crazy that the league will whore themselves out and allow blatant illegal moves for the sake of highlight reels.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c6ffdee4b0c75c07d581ac/t/54e3bb93e4b06e0409141725/1424210869429/

someone please explain to me how this isn't a travel.

[Roxsfan]

Salty ass fans from weak franchises up in here.

Lakers, Clips and Spurs.

[DAF86]

the debatable part to me is that he had his other foot planted when he took the 3rd step (to get behind the 3pt line). Like it was a dance move or something

Emmh, I don't know what foot you think he had planted but he traveled pretty clearly on that play. It really wasn't debatable at all.

[ambchang]

Salty ass fans from weak franchises up in here.

Lakers, Clips and Spurs.

:lol weak franchises.

Rox last championship - 1995
Total titles won - 2
Number of pedophiles as the face of the franchise - 2
If you want to rank franchises based on the pedo to rings ratio, the rockets would be the second best franchise in nba history, behind the jazz of course.

[Clipper Nation]

Salty ass fans from weak franchises up in here.

Lakers, Clips and Spurs.
:lol If it wasn't for the superhuman efforts of prime Hakeem, you'd have the same ring count as us. And your dumbass franchise was thisclose to trading Hakeem to the Clippers before that could happen:


The Rockets appear committed to dealing the disgruntled Olajuwon.

The talk has the Clippers first in line, although that's where it all gets fuzzy.

The Rockets supposedly want Danny Manning, Loy Vaught and Glenn Rivers and draft picks...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-09-16/sports/9203240376_1_bulls-clippers-dallas-derek-harper

Sit down, be humble.

[Roxsfan]

:lol If it wasn't for the superhuman efforts of prime Hakeem, you'd have the same ring count as us. And your dumbass franchise was thisclose to trading Hakeem to the Clippers before that could happen:


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-09-16/sports/9203240376_1_bulls-clippers-dallas-derek-harper

Sit down, be humble.

Stfu. You salty af.

[Roxsfan]

:lol weak franchises.

Rox last championship - 1995
Total titles won - 2
Number of pedophiles as the face of the franchise - 2
If you want to rank franchises based on the pedo to rings ratio, the rockets would be the second best franchise in nba history, behind the jazz of course.

Figure out your Hawaii Leonard issue then maybe you have a team otherwise weak is correct right NOW.

[Clipper Nation]

Frauden with another one of those "amazing moves":

970134952108060672

[ambchang]

Figure out your Hawaii Leonard issue then maybe you have a team otherwise weak is correct right NOW.

Do you know what a franchise means?

[Xsatyr]

Harden been traveling. It's crazy that the league will whore themselves out and allow blatant illegal moves for the sake of highlight reels.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c6ffdee4b0c75c07d581ac/t/54e3bb93e4b06e0409141725/1424210869429/

someone please explain to me how this isn't a travel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToAIL4J3jIA&t=45s

[ambchang]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToAIL4J3jIA&t=45s

So your response to the question about a move that was clearly a travel is to show a video of analyst showing a perfectly legal move by the same player? Did the original person say that every move that Harden had was a travel?

[djohn2oo8]

:lol If it wasn't for the superhuman efforts of prime Hakeem, you'd have the same ring count as us. And your dumbass franchise was thisclose to trading Hakeem to the Clippers before that could happen:


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-09-16/sports/9203240376_1_bulls-clippers-dallas-derek-harper

Sit down, be humble.

Before you tell anyone to be humble, you should learn to follow ONE team at a time, bitch :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Frauden with another one of those "amazing moves":

970134952108060672

All this time and you still don't have your own shtick.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol weak franchises.

Rox last championship - 1995
Total titles won - 2
Number of pedophiles as the face of the franchise - 2
If you want to rank franchises based on the pedo to rings ratio, the rockets would be the second best franchise in nba history, behind the jazz of course.

To be fair, the spurs are a Popovich retirement away from being sold for a box of tacos and moved to Seattle.

[Xsatyr]

So your response to the question about a move that was clearly a travel is to show a video of analyst showing a perfectly legal move by the same player? Did the original person say that every move that Harden had was a travel?

It's not a double step back; people are counting before the gather. In the gif I quoted Harden gathers the ball after he shuffles his left foot back just before the three point line. Then he steps back behind the three point line. The first step back is irrelevant bc he hasn't stopped his dribble yet.

[ambchang]

To be fair, the spurs are a Popovich retirement away from being sold for a box of tacos and moved to Seattle.

Too bad for you that didn’t happen though.

No pedos though.

[ambchang]

It's not a double step back; people are counting before the gather. In the gif I quoted Harden gathers the ball after he shuffles his left foot back just before the three point line. Then he steps back behind the three point line. The first step back is irrelevant bc he hasn't stopped his dribble yet.

It is on the cross over of the century though. Clearly three steps.

[Roxsfan]

Do you know what a franchise means?

It means you wanna forget the now and live in the past with your collective body of work BS

[Xsatyr]

It is on the cross over of the century though. Clearly three steps.

No it's not. Watch in slow motion. He gathers the ball just as he gets his left foot down and then steps back with his right foot. The same 0 1 2 step style Ronnie Nunn refers to.

The ball does hit his hand with his right foot down but he still hasn't actually gathered the ball.

[ambchang]

It means you wanna forget the now and live in the past with your collective body of work BS

Talking about franchise accomplishments actually talks about the entire history.

Besides, Spurs last title: 2014
Rockets: 1995

[ambchang]

No it's not. Watch in slow motion. He gathers the ball just as he gets his left foot down and then steps back with his right foot. The same 0 1 2 step style Ronnie Nunn refers to.

The ball does hit his hand with his right foot down but he still hasn't actually gathered the ball.

And those women weren’t hookers. They were just his girlfriends for those few hours and coincidentally got paid.

[Xsatyr]

And those women weren’t hookers. They were just his girlfriends for those few hours and coincidentally got paid.

Congratz on resorting to an ad hominem and failing to make a valid argument on how it was a travel.

[ambchang]

Congratz on resorting to an ad hominem and failing to make a valid argument on how it was a travel.

If you want to say three steps is not a travel because you are a rockets fan, that’s up to you. I’m just extending your logic to say harden is perfect, that’s all.

[daslicer]

It means you wanna forget the now and live in the past with your collective body of work BS

What have the Rockets done based on recent history? Last year they got eliminated by a Kawhiless Spurs team on their home court. The year before they lost in the first round to the Warriors. Based on the last two years the Spurs have had more success than the Rox. Obviously this year the Rox are better but it remains to be seen if they can beat the Warriors. If the Rox don't beat the Warriors this year then it's a wasted season and they probably never win a title with CP3/Harden.

[djohn2oo8]

And those women weren’t hookers. They were just his girlfriends for those few hours and coincidentally got paid.
None of them got paid to keep quiet about pillowbiting....(looking in the direction of a certain 7 footer)

[dfens]

y'all sons better go easy on these rockets fans, these niggas haven't seen a ring since :lmao bunch of sellout faggots in this thread tbh, lmao destroying the good game just to appeal to bums like flopden :lol at least povertyball is a man's game at the highest levels, nba is a bitch niggas game. deal with it tbh..

[djohn2oo8]

y'all sons better go easy on these rockets fans, these niggas haven't seen a ring since :lmao bunch of sellout faggots in this thread tbh, lmao destroying the good game just to appeal to bums like flopden :lol at least povertyball is a man's game at the highest levels, nba is a bitch niggas game. deal with it tbh..

Povertyball a man's game eh?

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcnzWmq70t1oJ8I/giphy.gif

[Xsatyr]

If you want to say three steps is not a travel because you are a rockets fan, that’s up to you. I’m just extending your logic to say harden is perfect, that’s all.

Perfect?? Nah.. He is a mental midget who has a better chance of losing in the first round than taking the Warriors to six games. With that said, a gather step plus two steps is not a travel; learn the rules or learn to count. Good day sir.

[Clipper Nation]

at least povertyball is a man's game at the highest levels
:lmao

[dfens]

Povertyball a man's game eh?

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUPGcnzWmq70t1oJ8I/giphy.gif

highest level you illiterate gook. :lol lmao flopden fans talking about ethics.

[dfens]

:lmao

nigga watch the world cup to see players really wanting to win, then you'll see the NBA is just a farce in comparison.

[djohn2oo8]

highest level you illiterate gook. :lol lmao flopden fans talking about ethics.
Man's gameeeeeee

http://i.imgur.com/X3syHee.gif

[Clipper Nation]

nigga watch the world cup to see players really wanting to win, then you'll see the NBA is just a farce in comparison.
:lmao

[dfens]

Man's gameeeeeee

http://i.imgur.com/X3syHee.gif

son for every flop you post from 5th tier teams I can post a 5 flops from a mvp level player. Or just from harden. At least I know both sports, seeing you gooks try to post about football :lmao:lmao y'all just a bunch of try hards. Also the point is that even if poveryball is full of flops it's not the travesty the nba has become. so please search more gifs and enjoy your 2nd rate regular season athletic harlotry.

[ambchang]

None of them got paid to keep quiet about pillowbiting....(looking in the direction of a certain 7 footer)

Yes. You at right. Nothing harden did could be criticized.

[ambchang]

Perfect?? Nah.. He is a mental midget who has a better chance of losing in the first round than taking the Warriors to six games. With that said, a gather step plus two steps is not a travel; learn the rules or learn to count. Good day sir.

A gather step after picking up the ball is a step. I have no problems with most of his step backs. Heck ginobioi hit a game winner over the Bucks a few years back with the same move. The problem with this particular move is that he picked up the ball then gather stepped then took two more steps.

[djohn2oo8]

son for every flop you post from 5th tier teams I can post a 5 flops from a mvp level player. Or just from harden. At least I know both sports, seeing you gooks try to post about football :lmao:lmao y'all just a bunch of try hards. Also the point is that even if poveryball is full of flops it's not the travesty the nba has become. so please search more gifs and enjoy your 2nd rate regular season athletic harlotry.

Damn son even the coaches?

http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/soccer-coach-headbutt-flop-headbutt-gifs.gif

[Chris]

^ :lmao

[Xsatyr]

A gather step after picking up the ball is a step. I have no problems with most of his step backs. Heck ginobioi hit a game winner over the Bucks a few years back with the same move. The problem with this particular move is that he picked up the ball then gather stepped then took two more steps.

Manu gathered the ball just as he got his left foot down and then stepped back. That's not a travel. I think you're counting steps as soon as the ball hits the player's hand but that's not when it's gathered yet. We can agree to disagree but as Ronnie Nunn explains it's a 0 1 2 step with the gather step being 0.

[ambchang]

Manu gathered the ball just as he got his left foot down and then stepped back. That's not a travel. I think you're counting steps as soon as the ball hits the player's hand but that's not when it's gathered yet. We can agree to disagree but as Ronnie Nunn explains it's a 0 1 2 step with the gather step being 0.

I menat I didn’t have a problem with that ginobili step back or most of greens step bangs because those weren’t treble. The crossover of the century is though.

[dfens]

Damn son even the coaches?

http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/soccer-coach-headbutt-flop-headbutt-gifs.gif
:lmao:lmao that's a good one tbh. should I post the jason kidd one? as i've said for every unknown team you post I'm giving you first rate replies. smh y'all gooks never learn.

[HarlemHeat37]

Why does a 40+ year old German man say "nigga" so much, tbh?

[140]

Sad how players have no fundamentals these days tbh

[dfens]

Why does a 40+ year old German man say "nigga" so much, tbh?

nigga please.